lol, all good…. Calling it the best ain’t wrong but it can be subjective to each individual😂 And farms in games like this are always they ever changing things so…. it’s always the best until the new best arrives inevitably
totally agree with you on adding incentives to active farming. they should really have a mix of active and passive farming. it feels bad when you're doing hard dungeons and just getting nothing much in return.
In my opinion they should add both ways to farm and have them be roughly equal. Sometimes you want challenge and sometimes you just want to mindless farm
yeah i agree as well. I would say take this even a step farther and make it so that Hard Dungeons give you a chunk of weapon and descendant exp at the end, or increase exp in things like special operations.
@@hadmos855 i prefer to say, sometimes you want to farm specific things while farming the usual gold and kuiper too and sometimes you just want to farm those 2 things and its good to have the normal gameplay farming all and the chill gameplay farming only those things (and weapons, etc mats ofc)
Moxsy, it never gets annoying. I look forward to your stuff every day when we’re playing the same game. I’ve been looking forward to BL4 to have an excuse to binge your content, so this game has been a pleasant surprise. Keep ‘em coming, my dude.
It would also be cool if the devs add a way to more efficently "farm" xp for descendants that are not big AOE spammers. Like if i want to forma a descendant thats not bunny, im mostly standing at the mission start post to restart the mission every 30 sec and let a bunny kill all the adds since i (in this case, gley) am waaaay slower in clearing all the mobs to make it efficent. This would also reduce the amount of afk farmers.
My dude, are perchance tried Gley launcher spam builds? You wouldnt even need to run anywhere, it's like A10 strategic carpet bomber clearing location, with some friends it's not slower than Bunny + way more fun.
This farm is sick. Leveld up Valby and my tamer twice in just over an hour of farming it. Along with getting all the gold and KP. Perfect farm.. I hope they don't ruin it. *actually timed it. 25.5mins 1 to 40 weapon prof and 1 to 40 valby. Also got 310k kp and 4.2mil.
This farm is incredible, and I've been levelling up a bunch of weapons while stacking up gold. It's a shame that Ult Valby is just around the corner, which makes me not want to invest too much into base Valby, otherwise I could have used 8 catalysts on her with this farm already.
@@elefusion5142 I do hope that they do what Moxsy is saying and add more incentives to harder content that will trivialize things like this, rather than patching it into oblivion. Ultimately I think things like this incentivize people to grind for and develop other characters they might have been ignoring. Think of how many people are going to learn about this farm and immediately go to buy or unlock Valby. I think it's smarter to keep it in.
You can also use Absolute-Zero module as Ultimate Viessa, Frost Road leaves a trail that deals nice damage, so you can just run around the same way as Valby.
@@tonykeally1039no, he talks about Hypothermia, I'm talking about another mod. Hypothermia makes your skills dot enemies for a little bit of damage, Absolute-Zero makes trail hit for 280%+ skill power. Just tested, for this farm Absolute-Zero is a lot better, I have both mods maxed.
Thanks for sharing! and really great point at the end of the video. Honestly, it would be such a huge benefit to have the hard mode missions grant more KP/Gold so that you don't mind farming them as much for the rest of the necessary materials. Always guaranteed something useful at the end kind of thing. Great suggestion.
Can confirm that Bunny can do this without removing any range mods. Valby + Bunny + others that wants lvls and such is perfectly fine. Its not 300k per run tho. but its very close roughly around 250k without comps for extra gold and such :D
EDIT: Tomorrow's best farm will be a Gley build. Lol I was possibly thinking this was gonna be a small infiltration layout where spawns are in the center with a Gley rocket build, and as long as AOE doesn't hit the tanks it's basically a gold mine
Yujin can also run this pretty quickly with proliferating allergy (hard dead bride) it works similarly to contagion on Freyna. It’s more interactive than with Valby/Viessa but it’s the best way to level him. I know there aren’t too many people playing him but thought I’d toss this out there anyway.
@@alexamadu5133 yeah it’s the skill module for restructure serum. When you hit an enemy with serum then kill them (or if the duration ends) the allergy from the serum explodes damaging enemies. This explosion causes it to spread to other enemies, which will then explode on death, which will then spread the allergy…you get it. As a little extra bonus, if you’re in a party, the skill still explodes regardless of who kills the enemy.
I'm still waiting to see a single video about First Descendent where the content creator doesn't look like their soul is being crushed into spirit powder, while playing it.
I'm getting about 19-22K kuiper solo on a good run with this . Surprised a full team gives only slightly more Kuiper. Also getting about 12-15 modules per run as well. I unlocked 🔓 valby yesterday after grinding for her parts and right before this Farm was popping off... I also combined 4 transcendent modules and got SUPPLY MOISTURE off the bat. Lol super lucky and blessed. The timing is too perfect.
Actually there is bunny build, which allows you to get 650k+ solo .. (dfrugal mindset, increased hp, mp collector, arche accelerator, nimble finger, skill expansion, mp converison, maximice range, maximize duration) , use any non cata weapon to powerlevel them also. you wont kill boss in 3 mins. just run Ovals shapes in the middle Boss spawns mobs at 2.20 always also.
Did this with Bunny at default range and didn't hit the boss once, although it will be less efficient and harder to survive than with Valby if you do it solo, since you don't leave damaging pools, if enemies spawn on the opposite side of the circle it will take longer to kill them, as well as the fact that they might run into the middle next to the boss, so you won't be able to attack them properly
quick thought: it's unfunny how every build recommendation video doesn't even aknowledge the fact that you need Energy Activators. It's annoying considering how hard it is to get them, and considering that if i'm looking for an XP farm I'm still Leveling my equipment (that is... Valby). Thanks for the video Moxsy
What's funny is I've known about this for awhile thinking THIS was the Valby farm everyone was talking about lmfao. Glad to see this one wasn't nerfed because this farm is insane.
As someone who has played both Warframe and Destiny (in the past, onto greener pastures lol), the two games I feel that have the most influence on TFD's game loop - I agree that while these grinds are lucrative, it just doesn't feel like the intended way to progress in the endgame. It's equivalent to grinding a patrol ad nauseum, and that aside I don't ever remember doing any mindless farming outside of Void missions for materials in Warframe, or through daily/weekly resets in Destiny did I or my friends ever feel something like the OG Loot cave was necessary... and if we did, it was supplement to an already fair reward system, like if we REALLY wanted to push power for rare cases like day one raiding. Warframe's loot/reward system is the most similar to TFD, but the major difference is it's supplemented by player trading. Duplicate pieces could be turned around to the community for premium currency, and you could save up for the things you wanted in case RNG bites you in the ass. TFD could benefit a lot from trading, but I'm hesitant to believe Nexon would want to cut their profits like that. I guess it won't be -as- bad once we start reaching the super late endgame when we don't have much of anything to enhance and we start storing up kuiper/gold again, but I feel like there's still a discussion to be had about the pittance the game rewards us with through regular gameplay, and I sincerely hope the devs listen and adjust it so we're not spending 90% of our time doing shit like this and actually grinding for the most impactful stuff.
This farm is absolutely going to be the best. I was able to level weapons 1-40 in 15-19 minutes. Even unequiped weapons were leveling faster than other farms on mainhand
If you don't break them, you can reset every minute. It's not as good as a valby farm, but you could run around to kill everything. Drop-out reset for Bunny. Nets me about 1000kp a min on a rocket enzo build to level weapons and forma enzo. Still fairly decent for a slower ttk build.
funny thing is i found this farm by myself days ago, when i accidentally noticed that these guys would fucking instant respawn, but because people kept completing my mission i would go into private to do this, im actually SUPER surprised to see videos on it now, its crazy af.
why, did you think you were special and deserved to be the only one to abuse an overpowered farm? it deserves to get nerfed. For one, farms are meant to get you geared, not gate lower level players, this farm requires too much gear and setup for anyone that actually needs it to farm efficiently. Its completely busted and unfair for anyone that isnt valby or 60k defense.
Here is a thought: What if we have a weekly super hard dungeon? The reward is whatever you pick at the start for you. I mean, REALLY hard, too. We can then get whatever drops, but I'm talking about st the end you get too pick what the reward will be
I tried this. I was the only Valby so it wasn't as lucrative as you say but it was good. Problem is someone joined and finished the boss, twice! I went private. I find I got almost the same money solo as having a few non Valby with me. So come on people, go there with Valby even if she's not maxed. Every little bit help. Thank you. :)
100% agree on making harder content rewarding. I have to assume the devs didn’t expect the community to blast through the game’s content. Now we’re “breaking” things and they’re playing whack-a-mole with these hotfixes.
On the last note about better hard mode rewards, I completely agree. One of the worst aspects of the game right now in my opinion is the loot box hard boss rewards that can leave you with a totally useless crafting component for a descendant or maxed out weapon you already own. Just leaves a super disappointing feeling when all that intense effort ends with something so pointless. End game is starting to feel like 2 options: casino hard boss fight that can leave you with nothing, or repeating mindless easy content trying to farm stuff. I get 'these games' have this inherent in its structure, but the gameplay is so good, if they were able to just get to a point where challenging content feels adequately rewarding to play, it would just make for a much better gaming experience to come back to over and over again. I'm currently about to give it a break because the endgame is just straight up starting to bore the hell out of me.
It was hilarious doing this farm for half an hour, but you’re totally right. The gold economy is terrible for doing actual content and needs a huge buff
I agree, it would be nice to have some resource farms that aren't excessively mindless, or teleporting back n forth between 2 points in a zone. I have a feeling that these issues will be resolved later this year, but not sure. No idea what kind of content they have planned for seasons, but in December, we're getting utility companions, which sounds like a sizeable impact on gameplay. I kind of look at the game as in a "pre-patch" state, where devs are monitoring player behaviors, and adjusting content more towards the path of fun, or what they intentionally envisioned. I'm sure if players get more annoyed with mindless grinds, they'll implement something to switch it up.
I haven't watched your channel since I played Borderlands 3. (Sorry, I wasn't playing any of the games you were covering since then). Happy to see you covering my new video game addiction.
@@lucas-9840 it does yeah but you're not going to get 600k by yourself unless your godly instant killing everybody with our ability. The factor you kill people, the faster they respond, the more money you get
I agree on the incentive idea. Maybe like a random intercept button that gives you bonus money/kupier or something. Also it would be random so people would be “forced” in to normals to help newer players but be rewarded for it. I dunno my two cents.
Don't do this solo if you're not a valby main or have builds that allow you to kill mobs easily. You'll only make maybe 75k - 120k. If you are, you can easily make 150k - 200k solo. The money only goes up depending on how many mobs you can kill! Gold boost not included btw
For anybody who doesn't have a Valby or wants to either run or level up another character Anticipated Ambush is pretty ridiculous. You even get exp from the mission start node.
I believe Nexon will bring more dungeons but theyll do so with a new difficulty tier, Hard III. this way broken builds will still need upgrading to beat the hard III bosses and also new dungeons
You guys think the devs are gonna decrease the xp/drop from void reactors because of these? I mean, so far their stance on these types of minmaxing was refreshingly chill, but not sure what they'll do on the long term. These farming methods are really becoming insane, but i'm glad i found this, i was struggling to get proficiency for my guns :D
Yup, devs want as slow as possible progress so people have to play for prolonged time. For them it's not fun factor decision but business one. Every video about good farm is step toward nerf. This is reason why smart people never publicly share actually best farms.
Hey yo good news boys they announced this will be patched as it was unintended. However, they also said they don't care if we exploit this until then, and they will be boosting other spots to match the efficiency of this farm. They did the same thing with the void shard exploit by boosting how many shards we get. I love these devs they completely understand their players.
If they fix the stuttering, a survival mode with no time limit like Warframe would be quite cool. Loved to farm survival mode, but they'd also need to make roll/dodge an .
I like the idea of better rewards from hard mode content. Even if they do like a weekly Dungeon which has extra Modifiers like they already have but even more punishing.
Bunny is fine if she doesn’t jump, because the spheres are too high during the invincible phase, so he shouldn’t die. I’ve had lobbies with bunnies running around without issue.
@@louvel407 What do you mean no height coded into it, i've literally hit enemies that are in buildings below me or on the roof while i'm inside lmao (a bit over 200% range boost)
Ironically just did the old W-n G farm and we got the same results with just 2 bunnys spawn killing Seems like nearly every area has the same drops just about where and what avatar you wanna use
I don't understand....what am I doing wrong ? I tried this farm strat but I get ALMOST 1 mil per 10 min which is not something amazing considering that in other farm spot, I farm exactly 1 mil per 10 mins
Im a valby main but one thing that kinda works pretty well, idk if it’s a transcendent mod or what but I never even knew freyna could do that but showed up to this farm and there was two freyna’s that were running fast As hell leaving a trail of mini toxic pools I watched them for a bit and it was working quite well.
Yah totally agree as well, there's almost no incentive to do hard mode operations. They are super fun tho, and different from the normal versions! Wish you got more out of it sometimes.
hey moxsy. i pointed out at world chat that u only need 1 valby to carry a gold farm. that 1 valby can 1 hit spawn kill mobs already. so i dunno why people keep 4-man teaming as valby. bu then someone replied to me and said to watch ur video explaining that 4 valbys actually give more gold. as to why i dunno. i just wanna confirm if this is true
So you need to keep in mind farming is by definition is a mindless boring task the moment it becomes cumbersome and requires alot of focus its no longer "farming". So i do get your point we want to reward people for doing challenge content no doubt but there does no need to be chill activities to farm and that is why these things are discovered btw people wanting some chill stuff that still progresses their character. Also you goto be careful people are "meta slaves" the moment you make hardmode bosses the best xp and gold farm is the moment the rest of the content becomes dead. So there is value to having different function to the various activities in the game as it keeps all parts viable and serving a purpose to the player base. So i can go gold farm running in a circle for an hour to chill then run some hardmode missions to get some amoprhs then some hard most bosses to open type of thing.
I actually had this thought yesterday when I running around with bunny just whittled down the boss. The enemies just kept spawning and dying over and over.
they should just add in a mission that gives you like 1m gold that either is 5-10m long or make it a dedicated outpost that gives you nothing but gold and one for kuiper would be nice.
I was in the zone trying to farm ion particles and stumbled upon two valby doing this! Lol! I hung around for 3 runs of it, wake up this morning to multiple vids of it 😂
Hey, can you please do a video with your highest DPS weapons and what modules you suggest? Assuming you have found other thungs since the last one with the tamer?
hopefully the do something like a nephlem rift from d3, i know we got those dungeons specific, but if we get a "void rift" where everything drops at the end, it would be cool.
FYI! this is better with 3 or more players also using Walby ( she's a walking W ) You can get anywhere from 500 - 600k sometimes more every single time before factoring in a 30% boost. It's also the fastest way to level any characters level 40 in about 20 - 25 minutes same with weapons.
@@CVSiN if you're getting to 40 in 25 minutes, you'll have all of the abilities available in a couple minutes if youre starting at lvl 1. and they said it's optimal with 4 valbys, not that it's necessary. what is there to be confused about?
@@n9nedots becasue every other class doesnt have the controlled AOE unless its one of the very specific 3 chars with specific builds, so how is the other char going to hit anything to level fast? you only get a tiny amount for leeching,
Actually everytime these videos get dropped Nexon drops a patch that neuters the farm entirely. That Electric cave I used to use before people found out about it now only nets the mission rewards and Exp.
They should change the gold amount based on activity Hard mode dungeon with modifiers should drop per run 300k to 500k since the dungeon take for ever to finish Same for bosses the problem with bosses ppl can kill them in seconds now but i wish if the reward also 300k per kill
You don't HAVE to use an AoE Descendant. I run around with my Thunder Cage Invincible Gley and do just fine... I just have to target the mobs unlike the others. It's good for gold and kuiper but there are no elites that spawn so bad for anything else.
We need colossi gauntlets with multiple colossi/boss rush mechanics and/or field colossi events on maps. Those loading screens with colossi not in void bugging me.
Guess I probably won't be able to do this public any time soon. Last pattern I need for ultimate bunny :/. Had enough for today, but I guess I'll have to either go solo or lfg it.
Depends on your level and loot drop level when i was getting blues and purple i was going for the most power but now that i get mostly golds i go based on attributes plus power level try to keep ones that correspond with my weapons and characters build
Ya the hard mode bosses feel very optional. The rewards could be a lot better. Would be nice if they just gave the final item for ultimates vs a part to make a part or stuff like that.
Did they nerf the drop rates or monster density? I've done this tonight solo and with another person and im not getting those drop numbers, i have a gold find component and a 30% gold increase from the season pass, and may get 3 million! Ive done it with both not killing the A,B,C, or D and destroying them to summon boss, after about 5 hours its all about the same =/
Great way to farm for gold and kuiper, i cant see myself going in circles for an hour or 2. Tried this with the farming in sterile in the cave and i was bored within 15 mins
the wave missions could get more loot(and better scaling less boring start and maybe a real boss not just aoe chars have a good time ), just some are for xp fine. but with this time investment there are just not worth.
NOT WORKING I dont get alot of mobs spawning like in your video really low count mobs 2-3 spawn for me i killed them and 2-3 more coming really far of what you show in the video kinda weird
Does one need to get Valby maxed out for this? I have her at 10 and don't really feel like spending the time to level her up. Also, can Valby's ability destroy the things?
Is this better then the lightning void fragment farm if we complete every run in 13 seconds? (Was using gley vestigial for the entrance and the other 3 focused the other spawn
Important note: more mobs spawn if u put the boss into its immune phase. Also I swear this is the last "Best farm" video lmaooo
Yeah ok bud.
🧢🧢🧢 just stop it 😜
This farm has been up since launch I've been doing this ever since I'm surprised you didn't know about it
lol, all good…. Calling it the best ain’t wrong but it can be subjective to each individual😂
And farms in games like this are always they ever changing things so…. it’s always the best until the new best arrives inevitably
Do you have like a discord or something so I can find people to do this with
See y'all tomorrow for the next best farm.
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totally agree with you on adding incentives to active farming. they should really have a mix of active and passive farming. it feels bad when you're doing hard dungeons and just getting nothing much in return.
In my opinion they should add both ways to farm and have them be roughly equal. Sometimes you want challenge and sometimes you just want to mindless farm
yeah i agree as well. I would say take this even a step farther and make it so that Hard Dungeons give you a chunk of weapon and descendant exp at the end, or increase exp in things like special operations.
@@hadmos855 i prefer to say, sometimes you want to farm specific things while farming the usual gold and kuiper too and sometimes you just want to farm those 2 things and its good to have the normal gameplay farming all and the chill gameplay farming only those things (and weapons, etc mats ofc)
Moxsy, it never gets annoying. I look forward to your stuff every day when we’re playing the same game. I’ve been looking forward to BL4 to have an excuse to binge your content, so this game has been a pleasant surprise. Keep ‘em coming, my dude.
You don't speak for all of us. Every video being titled "BEST NEW X FIRST Descendant" is very annoying.
very weird parasocial behavior
Such a glazer
@@kazokadas wasn’t trying to
It would also be cool if the devs add a way to more efficently "farm" xp for descendants that are not big AOE spammers.
Like if i want to forma a descendant thats not bunny, im mostly standing at the mission start post to restart the mission every 30 sec and let a bunny kill all the adds since i (in this case, gley) am waaaay slower in clearing all the mobs to make it efficent.
This would also reduce the amount of afk farmers.
My dude, are perchance tried Gley launcher spam builds? You wouldnt even need to run anywhere, it's like A10 strategic carpet bomber clearing location, with some friends it's not slower than Bunny + way more fun.
@@ironzur2082 thats the build im building right about now ^^' tho my post was just about any descendant thats either unmoduled or not AOE focused :D
@@ironzur2082 I played with my first Gley launcher spam player yesterday. Absolutely hated it. What a mind numbingly boring way to play the game.
Or just use arc explosion smg does same speed if ur fast lil slower but
@@kevinallen1428as opposed to running in circles as bunny or valby?
At least with gley you gotta level her and the launcher to get a build going
If u use bunny and Don't want to change ur max range build just run outside the outpost and just make sure to reset the mission fail counter.
If you don't jump you won't break the orbs during immune state.
This farm is sick. Leveld up Valby and my tamer twice in just over an hour of farming it. Along with getting all the gold and KP. Perfect farm.. I hope they don't ruin it. *actually timed it. 25.5mins 1 to 40 weapon prof and 1 to 40 valby. Also got 310k kp and 4.2mil.
This farm is incredible, and I've been levelling up a bunch of weapons while stacking up gold. It's a shame that Ult Valby is just around the corner, which makes me not want to invest too much into base Valby, otherwise I could have used 8 catalysts on her with this farm already.
On the bright side as long as this isn't changed you'll have a fully decked out ult valby day 1 if you put a few hours into it
@@elefusion5142 I do hope that they do what Moxsy is saying and add more incentives to harder content that will trivialize things like this, rather than patching it into oblivion. Ultimately I think things like this incentivize people to grind for and develop other characters they might have been ignoring. Think of how many people are going to learn about this farm and immediately go to buy or unlock Valby. I think it's smarter to keep it in.
I got my valby almost fully maxed with 7 catalysts and 2 activators in my inventory just save 1 activator for her and lvl up like nornal
Im doing this fine with no reactor or no catalysts so give it a try
You can also use Absolute-Zero module as Ultimate Viessa, Frost Road leaves a trail that deals nice damage, so you can just run around the same way as Valby.
He literally says this in the video js
@@tonykeally1039no, he talks about Hypothermia, I'm talking about another mod. Hypothermia makes your skills dot enemies for a little bit of damage, Absolute-Zero makes trail hit for 280%+ skill power.
Just tested, for this farm Absolute-Zero is a lot better, I have both mods maxed.
@@pedrothin I think I need that mod now lol that sounds amazing for this farm
Thanks for sharing! and really great point at the end of the video. Honestly, it would be such a huge benefit to have the hard mode missions grant more KP/Gold so that you don't mind farming them as much for the rest of the necessary materials. Always guaranteed something useful at the end kind of thing. Great suggestion.
Can confirm that Bunny can do this without removing any range mods. Valby + Bunny + others that wants lvls and such is perfectly fine. Its not 300k per run tho. but its very close roughly around 250k without comps for extra gold and such :D
Definitely not annoying. When I find someone I can trust to keep me up to date with everything, that’s what I’m looking for. Keep it all coming
EDIT: Tomorrow's best farm will be a Gley build. Lol
I was possibly thinking this was gonna be a small infiltration layout where spawns are in the center with a Gley rocket build, and as long as AOE doesn't hit the tanks it's basically a gold mine
I don’t have Valby but I just finally got Hypothermia this morning so I’ll be doing this for sure!
just go there in Public and there is basically always a Valby or 2 there now lol
@@justanormalguy4885really?😂
Yujin can also run this pretty quickly with proliferating allergy (hard dead bride) it works similarly to contagion on Freyna. It’s more interactive than with Valby/Viessa but it’s the best way to level him.
I know there aren’t too many people playing him but thought I’d toss this out there anyway.
It can dmg enemies ? Didnt know, just about to make him
@@alexamadu5133 yeah it’s the skill module for restructure serum. When you hit an enemy with serum then kill them (or if the duration ends) the allergy from the serum explodes damaging enemies. This explosion causes it to spread to other enemies, which will then explode on death, which will then spread the allergy…you get it. As a little extra bonus, if you’re in a party, the skill still explodes regardless of who kills the enemy.
I'm still waiting to see a single video about First Descendent where the content creator doesn't look like their soul is being crushed into spirit powder, while playing it.
I'm getting about 19-22K kuiper solo on a good run with this . Surprised a full team gives only slightly more Kuiper. Also getting about 12-15 modules per run as well.
I unlocked 🔓 valby yesterday after grinding for her parts and right before this Farm was popping off... I also combined 4 transcendent modules and got SUPPLY MOISTURE off the bat. Lol super lucky and blessed. The timing is too perfect.
Actually there is bunny build, which allows you to get 650k+ solo .. (dfrugal mindset, increased hp, mp collector, arche accelerator, nimble finger, skill expansion, mp converison, maximice range, maximize duration) , use any non cata weapon to powerlevel them also. you wont kill boss in 3 mins. just run Ovals shapes in the middle
Boss spawns mobs at 2.20 always also.
Did this with Bunny at default range and didn't hit the boss once, although it will be less efficient and harder to survive than with Valby if you do it solo, since you don't leave damaging pools, if enemies spawn on the opposite side of the circle it will take longer to kill them, as well as the fact that they might run into the middle next to the boss, so you won't be able to attack them properly
quick thought: it's unfunny how every build recommendation video doesn't even aknowledge the fact that you need Energy Activators. It's annoying considering how hard it is to get them, and considering that if i'm looking for an XP farm I'm still Leveling my equipment (that is... Valby).
Thanks for the video Moxsy
What's funny is I've known about this for awhile thinking THIS was the Valby farm everyone was talking about lmfao. Glad to see this one wasn't nerfed because this farm is insane.
Brother keep them coming. Most of us want to keep farming but don’t have it in us to test every farm, every patch. So I appreciate these
As someone who has played both Warframe and Destiny (in the past, onto greener pastures lol), the two games I feel that have the most influence on TFD's game loop - I agree that while these grinds are lucrative, it just doesn't feel like the intended way to progress in the endgame. It's equivalent to grinding a patrol ad nauseum, and that aside I don't ever remember doing any mindless farming outside of Void missions for materials in Warframe, or through daily/weekly resets in Destiny did I or my friends ever feel something like the OG Loot cave was necessary... and if we did, it was supplement to an already fair reward system, like if we REALLY wanted to push power for rare cases like day one raiding.
Warframe's loot/reward system is the most similar to TFD, but the major difference is it's supplemented by player trading. Duplicate pieces could be turned around to the community for premium currency, and you could save up for the things you wanted in case RNG bites you in the ass. TFD could benefit a lot from trading, but I'm hesitant to believe Nexon would want to cut their profits like that.
I guess it won't be -as- bad once we start reaching the super late endgame when we don't have much of anything to enhance and we start storing up kuiper/gold again, but I feel like there's still a discussion to be had about the pittance the game rewards us with through regular gameplay, and I sincerely hope the devs listen and adjust it so we're not spending 90% of our time doing shit like this and actually grinding for the most impactful stuff.
This farm is absolutely going to be the best. I was able to level weapons 1-40 in 15-19 minutes. Even unequiped weapons were leveling faster than other farms on mainhand
If you don't break them, you can reset every minute. It's not as good as a valby farm, but you could run around to kill everything. Drop-out reset for Bunny. Nets me about 1000kp a min on a rocket enzo build to level weapons and forma enzo. Still fairly decent for a slower ttk build.
funny thing is i found this farm by myself days ago, when i accidentally noticed that these guys would fucking instant respawn, but because people kept completing my mission i would go into private to do this, im actually SUPER surprised to see videos on it now, its crazy af.
why, did you think you were special and deserved to be the only one to abuse an overpowered farm? it deserves to get nerfed. For one, farms are meant to get you geared, not gate lower level players, this farm requires too much gear and setup for anyone that actually needs it to farm efficiently. Its completely busted and unfair for anyone that isnt valby or 60k defense.
Here is a thought: What if we have a weekly super hard dungeon? The reward is whatever you pick at the start for you. I mean, REALLY hard, too. We can then get whatever drops, but I'm talking about st the end you get too pick what the reward will be
Agree with your end point. Hard mode bosses droping TWO decoder per kill would be a good start IMO.
I tried this. I was the only Valby so it wasn't as lucrative as you say but it was good. Problem is someone joined and finished the boss, twice! I went private. I find I got almost the same money solo as having a few non Valby with me. So come on people, go there with Valby even if she's not maxed. Every little bit help. Thank you. :)
100% agree on making harder content rewarding. I have to assume the devs didn’t expect the community to blast through the game’s content. Now we’re “breaking” things and they’re playing whack-a-mole with these hotfixes.
Totally true about alternate farming spots, dungeons give you very little, and the multiplier doesn't improve that, just better odds for 2x amorphs.
On the last note about better hard mode rewards, I completely agree. One of the worst aspects of the game right now in my opinion is the loot box hard boss rewards that can leave you with a totally useless crafting component for a descendant or maxed out weapon you already own. Just leaves a super disappointing feeling when all that intense effort ends with something so pointless. End game is starting to feel like 2 options: casino hard boss fight that can leave you with nothing, or repeating mindless easy content trying to farm stuff. I get 'these games' have this inherent in its structure, but the gameplay is so good, if they were able to just get to a point where challenging content feels adequately rewarding to play, it would just make for a much better gaming experience to come back to over and over again. I'm currently about to give it a break because the endgame is just straight up starting to bore the hell out of me.
It was hilarious doing this farm for half an hour, but you’re totally right. The gold economy is terrible for doing actual content and needs a huge buff
I agree, it would be nice to have some resource farms that aren't excessively mindless, or teleporting back n forth between 2 points in a zone.
I have a feeling that these issues will be resolved later this year, but not sure. No idea what kind of content they have planned for seasons, but in December, we're getting utility companions, which sounds like a sizeable impact on gameplay.
I kind of look at the game as in a "pre-patch" state, where devs are monitoring player behaviors, and adjusting content more towards the path of fun, or what they intentionally envisioned.
I'm sure if players get more annoyed with mindless grinds, they'll implement something to switch it up.
I haven't watched your channel since I played Borderlands 3. (Sorry, I wasn't playing any of the games you were covering since then). Happy to see you covering my new video game addiction.
I think they hotfixed this. cause with Bunny I'm barely breaking 100k gold over 10 minutes. should be a lot more.
lmao am I the only one who busted out laughing at 7:55 😂😭
Nahh bro was tryna sneak a peek 💀
Moxsy is staring a little too hard there 😂
It works fine with Bunny. Just don't jump too much. Stay on the lowest ground / along the fences. This is with only one range card active.
don’t even need to jump, take off any mod that increase range and it’ll never kill the boss.
OMG a game breaking farm bro I just started doing the swamp one 😂 no shot amazing job keeping us updated on this thank you
Good luck anyone trying to do this in a public server I ain't got no friends so I can't do the thing in a private
@noahbarks2219 it doesn't work solo?
@@lucas-9840 it does yeah but you're not going to get 600k by yourself unless your godly instant killing everybody with our ability. The factor you kill people, the faster they respond, the more money you get
Realistically u don’t need 4 valbys just 2 at best plus 2 randoms to make the mob density higher lol win win for the ppl who don’t have her
I agree on the incentive idea. Maybe like a random intercept button that gives you bonus money/kupier or something. Also it would be random so people would be “forced” in to normals to help newer players but be rewarded for it. I dunno my two cents.
Brings an update to the Supreme Bunny build. I'm playing with the last one you made and it's incredible!
gonna try this with freyna toxic footsteps at max range to see if i can get similar results!
@@Vaisukin tell me how it goes because I really wanted that but I got contagion so I wanna know how good it is
pls let me know how it works , too. Im really curious
I tried it, but the foot steps range can't get increased
@@whoistim1174 doesn't show on tooltip, but it increases.
how did it go ?
Don't do this solo if you're not a valby main or have builds that allow you to kill mobs easily. You'll only make maybe 75k - 120k. If you are, you can easily make 150k - 200k solo. The money only goes up depending on how many mobs you can kill! Gold boost not included btw
Also, if you're on console, make sure to get rid of loot or your game will crash!
For anybody who doesn't have a Valby or wants to either run or level up another character Anticipated Ambush is pretty ridiculous. You even get exp from the mission start node.
I believe Nexon will bring more dungeons but theyll do so with a new difficulty tier, Hard III.
this way broken builds will still need upgrading to beat the hard III bosses and also new dungeons
if you get the boss to his immune stage where you have to shoot the floating orbs more enemies spawn. more enemies = more gold.
You guys think the devs are gonna decrease the xp/drop from void reactors because of these? I mean, so far their stance on these types of minmaxing was refreshingly chill, but not sure what they'll do on the long term. These farming methods are really becoming insane, but i'm glad i found this, i was struggling to get proficiency for my guns :D
Yup, devs want as slow as possible progress so people have to play for prolonged time. For them it's not fun factor decision but business one. Every video about good farm is step toward nerf. This is reason why smart people never publicly share actually best farms.
Check out multi talent in place of mp collector, gives a good chunk of cooldown reduction to get the second charge back up faster
Hey yo good news boys they announced this will be patched as it was unintended. However, they also said they don't care if we exploit this until then, and they will be boosting other spots to match the efficiency of this farm. They did the same thing with the void shard exploit by boosting how many shards we get. I love these devs they completely understand their players.
If they fix the stuttering, a survival mode with no time limit like Warframe would be quite cool. Loved to farm survival mode, but they'd also need to make roll/dodge an .
I like the idea of better rewards from hard mode content. Even if they do like a weekly Dungeon which has extra Modifiers like they already have but even more punishing.
I don’t understand I’m doing this with a friend and only got like 100k gold in an hour what is going on?
You"re not putting the boss into imune phase
Good stuff man, keep up the good work and making our lives easier 👍
Bunny is fine if she doesn’t jump, because the spheres are too high during the invincible phase, so he shouldn’t die. I’ve had lobbies with bunnies running around without issue.
I assume that's without any range boosts then cause she also hits upwards a decent amount
@@MaxedEntropy I would assume so. I wasn’t the one on bunny, but I’d just steer clear and hug the edge when near the boss if it were me.
That's just not having range mods. Her aoe has no height coded into it so she can still hit orbs without ever jumping
@@louvel407 What do you mean no height coded into it, i've literally hit enemies that are in buildings below me or on the roof while i'm inside lmao (a bit over 200% range boost)
Ironically just did the old W-n G farm and we got the same results with just 2 bunnys spawn killing
Seems like nearly every area has the same drops just about where and what avatar you wanna use
I don't understand....what am I doing wrong ? I tried this farm strat but I get ALMOST 1 mil per 10 min which is not something amazing considering that in other farm spot, I farm exactly 1 mil per 10 mins
Im a valby main but one thing that kinda works pretty well, idk if it’s a transcendent mod or what but I never even knew freyna could do that but showed up to this farm and there was two freyna’s that were running fast As hell leaving a trail of mini toxic pools I watched them for a bit and it was working quite well.
Oops should’ve watched the whole way through before commenting😂 you mentioned it
Yah totally agree as well, there's almost no incentive to do hard mode operations. They are super fun tho, and different from the normal versions! Wish you got more out of it sometimes.
hey moxsy. i pointed out at world chat that u only need 1 valby to carry a gold farm. that 1 valby can 1 hit spawn kill mobs already. so i dunno why people keep 4-man teaming as valby. bu then someone replied to me and said to watch ur video explaining that 4 valbys actually give more gold. as to why i dunno. i just wanna confirm if this is true
So you need to keep in mind farming is by definition is a mindless boring task the moment it becomes cumbersome and requires alot of focus its no longer "farming". So i do get your point we want to reward people for doing challenge content no doubt but there does no need to be chill activities to farm and that is why these things are discovered btw people wanting some chill stuff that still progresses their character. Also you goto be careful people are "meta slaves" the moment you make hardmode bosses the best xp and gold farm is the moment the rest of the content becomes dead. So there is value to having different function to the various activities in the game as it keeps all parts viable and serving a purpose to the player base. So i can go gold farm running in a circle for an hour to chill then run some hardmode missions to get some amoprhs then some hard most bosses to open type of thing.
I actually had this thought yesterday when I running around with bunny just whittled down the boss. The enemies just kept spawning and dying over and over.
Not annoying at all, helps me keep up with things. I at least appreciate it! Thank you!
Aren't these on 1 min CD, so even if you kill it accidentally...it's just 60sec
they should just add in a mission that gives you like 1m gold that either is 5-10m long or make it a dedicated outpost that gives you nothing but gold and one for kuiper would be nice.
I was in the zone trying to farm ion particles and stumbled upon two valby doing this! Lol! I hung around for 3 runs of it, wake up this morning to multiple vids of it 😂
Hey, can you please do a video with your highest DPS weapons and what modules you suggest? Assuming you have found other thungs since the last one with the tamer?
Nice farm. The gold will be useful for maxing out my Valby's Supply Moisture
hopefully the do something like a nephlem rift from d3, i know we got those dungeons specific, but if we get a "void rift" where everything drops at the end, it would be cool.
FYI! this is better with 3 or more players also using Walby ( she's a walking W ) You can get anywhere from 500 - 600k sometimes more every single time before factoring in a 30% boost.
It's also the fastest way to level any characters level 40 in about 20 - 25 minutes same with weapons.
I'm confused if you have to be a valby and its best in a group of 4 valbys how can you level another character here?
@@CVSiN if you're getting to 40 in 25 minutes, you'll have all of the abilities available in a couple minutes if youre starting at lvl 1. and they said it's optimal with 4 valbys, not that it's necessary. what is there to be confused about?
@@CVSiN It's best in a group of 2 - 4 you can still level one person or 2 peopel and still get similar results ( gold wise etc )
@@n9nedots becasue every other class doesnt have the controlled AOE unless its one of the very specific 3 chars with specific builds, so how is the other char going to hit anything to level fast? you only get a tiny amount for leeching,
Actually everytime these videos get dropped Nexon drops a patch that neuters the farm entirely. That Electric cave I used to use before people found out about it now only nets the mission rewards and Exp.
Just leveled like 4 decendants from this farm in like an hour also jumped massive progress on weapon proficiency
They should change the gold amount based on activity
Hard mode dungeon with modifiers should drop per run 300k to 500k since the dungeon take for ever to finish
Same for bosses the problem with bosses ppl can kill them in seconds now but i wish if the reward also 300k per kill
Do you have gold/Kuiper boost on from playing beta? The numberrs seem higher than ive been able to achieve by atleast 200k
It was stealth nerfed
@@REALmills no it wasnt, I am still getting 600k per run on average with a good group
You don't HAVE to use an AoE Descendant. I run around with my Thunder Cage Invincible Gley and do just fine... I just have to target the mobs unlike the others. It's good for gold and kuiper but there are no elites that spawn so bad for anything else.
a few farms ppl use now involve failing the mission to be the most efficient and that feels wrong too.
There are range mods. Skill expansion. Works great with bunny builds and valby as well
He meant Minus range mods, to reduce bunny's shock ring
We need colossi gauntlets with multiple colossi/boss rush mechanics and/or field colossi events on maps. Those loading screens with colossi not in void bugging me.
You nailed it, harder content needs to be more rewarding than these simple farms.
Guess I probably won't be able to do this public any time soon. Last pattern I need for ultimate bunny :/. Had enough for today, but I guess I'll have to either go solo or lfg it.
you planning on posting your updated freyna build?
Are there any guides for quickly sifting through all the items. Specifically reactors? Or should i just be dismantiling everything on sight
Depends on your level and loot drop level when i was getting blues and purple i was going for the most power but now that i get mostly golds i go based on attributes plus power level try to keep ones that correspond with my weapons and characters build
Hey mox or anyone knows if theyt fixed that bugged trophy with the catalyst?
liked just for suggesting the end game content is what should give us fat loot and mats, hope the devs hear that
Ya the hard mode bosses feel very optional. The rewards could be a lot better. Would be nice if they just gave the final item for ultimates vs a part to make a part or stuff like that.
Literally ran into a group doing this a few hours ago. I just bought valby and lvling her as we speak so i can run my own farm lol
Did they nerf the drop rates or monster density? I've done this tonight solo and with another person and im not getting those drop numbers, i have a gold find component and a 30% gold increase from the season pass, and may get 3 million! Ive done it with both not killing the A,B,C, or D and destroying them to summon boss, after about 5 hours its all about the same =/
don’t ever stop, Moxsy!
would be nice if they made it so you get same gold as kiper in vaults ...
this spot is crazy good im getting 1.6k-1.8k kill on this spot and getting 600-800k gold before gold boost as absolute zero viessa insane
Great way to farm for gold and kuiper, i cant see myself going in circles for an hour or 2. Tried this with the farming in sterile in the cave and i was bored within 15 mins
The last words... so true just like in diablo always getting to the higher contest for more rewards
the wave missions could get more loot(and better scaling less boring start and maybe a real boss not just aoe chars have a good time ), just some are for xp fine. but with this time investment there are just not worth.
NOT WORKING
I dont get alot of mobs spawning like in your video
really low count mobs 2-3 spawn for me i killed them and 2-3 more coming
really far of what you show in the video
kinda weird
Like if you think Nexon should add group settings UI for components. Its such a fuss to switch them individually rn!!!
Does one need to get Valby maxed out for this? I have her at 10 and don't really feel like spending the time to level her up. Also, can Valby's ability destroy the things?
They should fix the defense missions to add drops in and change how the waves work on the timed ones because they are terrible.
Is this better then the lightning void fragment farm if we complete every run in 13 seconds? (Was using gley vestigial for the entrance and the other 3 focused the other spawn
I did this fine being the only Valby in a 4 person group. I haven't upgraded her at all Catalyst or Energy.
does mobs drop code breakers here?
I’m pretty sure they have a chance to drop anywhere but i could be wrong on that