Hey everyone! We realized after we posted this that we mentioned this is a 'native 4k' projector. That was a flub and obviously not the case, but it does produce a picture that is essentially equal in image detail to a native 4K projector. Unfortunately, we have no way of adding annotations to correct our mistake to the video anymore so we figured we'd own up to it in the comment section. At the end of the day, whether this projector is for you is going to boil down to personal preference - but having seen it in person next to native 4K projectors and other 4K enhancement projectors, it is still an incredibly impressive projector at this price point.
U should take the video down cos i ended up buying this projector thinking it was native 4k now iam stuck trying to get my money back. Thats £3000 wasted . Thanks a lot buddy.
Maybe you should have looked at the specs of the projector before buying it, and watched more than a single video before making a £3000 purchasing decision.
You have a knob that will allow for a 15 degree shift, but as far as fixing a not so even surface or more than straight on shot, you'll have to do a lot of manual configuration in the options.
thanks for the video and information Dave. I see all these folks bashing the Optoma because it is not "native 4K" but if it can output 8 million pixels on screen at any one point-in-time, according to CTA then it can be sold as a 4K projector. unlike the JVC and Epson E-shift LCD technology that does not qualify. Native 4K. no problem, you can go spend 4 times the money and buy a Sony (great projector, not putting it down) for $ 8K but most consumers would be hard pressed to visually see any difference (assuming content is 4K) and I for one, would rather spend the $ 6K difference on my family.
" but if it can output 8 million pixels on screen at any one point-in-time," But that is the reason people are upset about advertising this as True 4K. It can't put 8 million pixels on the screen at any one point in time. It puts only 4 million at anyone point in time. Then it shifts slightly and overlays a second 4 million pixel image at another point in time. It is a pixel shifter and Projector People clearly say in this review that it isn't. That is false. It is shifting pixels and does not have a native 4K resolution. Also you may be comparing this to an 8K Sony, but it is true 4K, and it is brighter, better color, much better contrast, better blacks, and it is last year's model. Who knows what the price will be this year after Sept CEDIA event when the new projectors are announced? If you compare this projector to a similarly priced Epson 5040UB which is also a pixel shifter, 1080p pixel shifter but can display a pseudo 4K image not quite as sharp as the Optoma, the Epson has a better lens, motorized focus, motorized wider zoom, much better black levels, native contrast of 6000:1 compared to Optoma 1800:1, it has 3D Optoma doesn't, it is brighter in calibrated lumens, it supports P3 color space, Optoma doesn't, it has much more lens shift both horizontal and vertical, and is of high quality build with 3 year replacement warranty. So spend the difference of 6K on your family but buy a better projector because the Optoma doesn't quite cut it for Home Theater.
thanks for the opinion. which I respect, but I disagree. Are you an engineer? have you done a comparison between these competing projector manufactures, using the same content in a controlled environment? Then HDYK when you state better lens, better black levels etc the Optoma DOES have what is called HDR which utilizes what that manufacture refers to as REC.2020 and they DO say it has DCI-P3 color gamut? Unless they are lying on their web site and details sheet? Do the math: 3840 x 2160 (P) = 8,294,400 pixels. Your equating a SLOW e-shift 3-LCD process with the extremely fast shifting of TI's DLP technology -- which are not similar. goggle both, it is easy to research the differences. And one does not need a high lumen (brightness) count typically in a Home theater environment, actually some of the best and most costly projectors actually have very low lumen ratings because they are primarily meant to be used in low or no light settings. those too are also way out of my budget >:) Hey I am not a expert, and i do not for a minute believe that sony's current $ 8,000 projector is all the sudden this holiday season going to cost dramatically less? It has been around a few years and has not really dropped ( i was hoping it would). I will save the $, and go with the Optoma 4K unit as IMO, it is the best bang for the buck. ultimately consumers will vote with wallets on which 4K projector they believe is the best value and technology to go with. But I do know this and will close. having used a projector (1080P) in my main HT now for over a year, especially when watching special HD content, sports and movies, I have a 96" screen and can never go back to a small flat panel again and if I had a room large enough, could go well above 200" size. no matter what projector one is leaning toward buying, a projector solution is the best viewing experience. peace brother.
Hi Steven, Hey I wasn't just making stuff up. There are a number of professional reviewers on AVS forum who have the Optoma UHD65 and have professional grade test equipment and meters to test. So far the best native contrast numbers have been about 1600:1 which is very poor. For example the Epson easily beats 6000:1. Also the Optoma has very poor black levels, they are more milky-black instead of deep black like the Epson, JVC, and Sony projectors. Most think this is due to reducing the size of the mirrors in the DMD chip to up the resolution. Also the specs are terribly misleading on Optima's website. The projector does not hit full p3 color space. It re-maps BT 2020 to Rec 709 space. Calibrators have only been able to hit rec 709 accuracy and about 70% P3. Which isn't bad but it isn't BT 2020 or full P3. Yes, it supports HDR but once calibrated and you figure in the light loss from the color filters it only has about 800 lumens color calibrated brightness. This is nowhere near enough to reproduce decent HDR10 content. Also with a dynamic contrast as poor as the UHD65 there is no way you can play back a decent high dynamic range content. Just because it reads a HDR10 signal doesn't mean it can deliver a good HDR presentation. Many projectors struggle with HDR even those in the 25K range and their true specs are much much better than the Optoma. The Optima's best feature is that it delivers near true 4K resolution. It isn't true 4K resolution but it is close enough that most won't see much difference. Other than that it is a very limited projector. You have to give up a lot for a cheap high res projector. For a dedicated Home Theater it doesn't make much sense. But for a casual projector user who wants to watch 4K UHD movies at home and doesn't care about picture quality and convenience features then this projector is fine.
@@DurangoLegend Maybe Dave is a 'shifty' type??? L0L No 3D is a deal-breaker for moi. I'll have to save up another $1,000.00 or two I guess, for a JVC.
When can we expect the TI chip to be in units (from any manufacturer) with lens memory (power lens shift, zoom and focus)? Add in multi-lens so no RGB wheel.
I got the UHD65 in the first shipment batch.... be forewarned that the color contrast numbers are liberal as can be, color contrast is very notably worse than even the $1,000 BenQ w2150ST DLP when compared side by side. The 4k IS amazing though. Color banding is an issue with certain content though.
86scar86 Black levels are reasonable, definately passable. Watching the black and white footage in the World at War documentary is pleasant. Optoma gives it "1,200,000:1" but my old Epson 5030UB that was rated half that at 600,000:1 was superior for black levels even despite the rating difference. I run the UHD in bright lamp mode even in a light controlled basement room in an attempt to get better color brightness (after reducing "brilliant color" from the default 10 which looks fake and tacky down to 2 on my reference content) so that does affect black levels in comparison to eco. Dynamic lamp mode is good for black levels but has an awful color contrast at the same time. Optoma has so many post-processing effects enabled by default in an attempt to make it look better than it is to a casual user, but they all crush the picture quality in one way or another. All that said I'm still keeping it for the 4k, yes it uses pixel shifting but it truly does accomplish a full 3840x2160 image with defined pixel grids using PC test images and compared with a 4k TV panel.
This is definitely an area of tech that's likely to see alot of competition. This looks like a decent 4k projector but I'd rather wait for something better that I can stick with for many years.
i would like to know that whether the serial no. printed on the projector and the one shows on the system information in settings is the same or not.Two days ago i bought one uhd 65 and it shows QU65811AAAAAC0020 on the projector back side and in settings itsQ78V7120801.Pls reply .
How would you compare it to the Vivitek HK2288 and 2488, and which would you recommend? I'm debating which to buy for my theater at home. I'm going to be running a Celerity HDMI over Fiber to the projector from a Denon AVR-x7200wa sourced from an OPPO 203 to get full 4:4:4 uncompressed video. It'll be projecting onto a Screen Innovations 5 series Slate Grey 0.8 gain 100" screen. This is going into a dedicated theater room as well.
You would be much better off staying away from the recent pseudo 4K UHD DLP projectors like the Optoma, BenQ, and Vivitek in a dedicated home theater. They have limited lens shift, no motorized lens controls, no lens memory, and extremely poor contrast. My advice would be to wait until CEDIA 2017 around labor day week where all the new Home Theater gear is announced. The similarly priced Epson 5040 is already a much better Home Theater projector than these Optomas and for a few dollars more you could get a JVC which completely destroys these Optomas. Unfortunately, DLP can't compete with LCoS or LCD anymore when it comes to black levels and contrast. I doubt any home theater enthusiast will buy these projectors as they just under perform and are missing standard features in exchange for a slightly higher resolution that still can't match true native 4K.
www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhd65-projector-comparison-sony-vpl-vw365es/ DurangoLegend nothing wrong with what you're saying except these have been consistently selling out and it seems to hold its own. I personally have a LCoS (Sony) and there are trade offs. Biggest being motion resolution. Oh maybe add cost. While the 5040 is nice, the fact its running a 10 gig HDMI virtually rules it out for gaming. There is downsides to all tech. You are flat out wrong on the higher resolutions. These are plainly matching true native 4k which we are seeing from owners sharing images. I agree again on missing features like greater shifts for placement though.
Just go to the AVS forum online and see the test patterns for yourself. These are not true 4k UHD projectors and they do employ an optical actuator to pixel shift the native resolution panel to simulate 4K . When you see the test patterns, then you will see why Home Theater Enthusiasts who have dedicated theaters wouldn't touch one of these for 4K. Especially considering the terrible contrast and black levels compared to similar priced LCoS and LCD projectors. Just because something sells well doesn't make it a quality product. Most DLP projectors sell well because they are inexpensive not because they provide the best video projection. Also the motion handling is not getting good reviews. Testing has shown a lot of pixel smearing and many artifacts with these projectors. True the 10 Gbps HDMI input is a problem for 4K gaming on the Epson but who knows what CEDIA 2017 will bring and JVC already has full 18 Gbps HDMI. I am sure that there are many who don't know much about what projectors can deliver and just want a cheap pseudo 4K projector for fun. I don't have a problem with that. What I do have an issue with are these videos which state that these are native 4K projectors and don't use pixel shifting to produce pseudo 4K images. That is an outright lie.
I've sent in a bug report to Optoma which they confirmed existed, that Optical out sounds are compressed and not actually passthrough to a device. Supposedly it's in an upcoming firmware, but I have since been unable to get any kind of acknowledgment stating when that firmware update is due. Also, I noticed on my projector that whenever white things are placed on screen there are a lot of blue artifacts that are present and move when the video is playing. If you place the movie on pause the artifacts are still there but stagnate. Does anyone know how to remove those? Apart from that, I think the projector has some HDCP issues with flickering now and then, but I haven't ordered any optical HDMI cables yet to test. Overall a great projector still.
This projector gets the job done pretty well. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxS9P8zTOcmQg-hH0QeUi3dspOLyYgQ6dH Bear in mind it's a mini projector but all things considered the picture quality is pretty good. The attached photo is of the projector projecting onto my white closet doors. I still have not messed with the settings but I can't wait for our first family movie night on a larger scale. If you have issues with volume not working with your firestick, go into volume settings and you will find your solution there.
which is a better buy...this or the Epson Home Cinema 4000 ? really need help , want to spend my $$wisely and get the best bang for my very tight buck. thanks in advance
I'm trying to figure out how this technology can be competitive going forward with the prices of 4K 70"+ sets becoming mainstream in the next few years.
So it's a projector that projects a nice clean print.......and? I've always bought Optoma projectors and had been waiting for a long time for them to come up with 4k 3d projector, guess what no 3d!! I've been a loyal customer too, they've made my decision to jump ship.
I'm in the same boat! Love their 1080p 3D projectors and have been waiting years for a 3D 4K projector.. My only hope is that Optoma seem to release loads of different projectors, so I hold out hope
Can some one please tell me why the uhd65 that is considered a step up from the uhd60 has lower 2200 lumens compared to the uhd60 that has 3000 lumens? It's so frustrating!! Why do projector manufacturers do this? Sony does the same crap!
Look at the Vivitek 2488 - I believe that one does have 3D. Thing is, pretty much all content coming out is either 4k, or 1080 3D. Nothing that I can see that supports both.
You really need to research a little before you make comments like that. Yes, all DLP tech use mirrors. This particular DMD chip has a grid of 2716x1528 mirrors. Using light bounced off of this chip create the pixels which form the image. This chip is one half the resolution of a true 4K chip. The pixels formed are twice as big. So to get 8 million pixels on the screen this projector projects one image with about 4 million pixels. Then it uses an optical actuator to shift the pixel image 1 /2 pixel diagonally. This second image is projected over the top of the original 4 million pixel image. This all happens in 1/60th of second to form one frame. This is identical to the pixel shifting projectors by Epson and JVC, only they use a native 1080p chip which is about 1/2 the resolution of the TI chip being used by the Optoma. So to sum it all up, this is a pixel shifter. It has been given the UHD 4K marketing term because it displays 8 million pixels but they aren't displayed at the same time and they are twice as big as a true native 4K projector and they overlay each other. This has been confirmed with testing and reviews. The UHD 4K marketing tag is misleading because you could have a 1080p pixel shifter, shift 4 times and throw up 4 1080p images in 1/60th of second and it would get the UHD 4K marketing tag even though it is no where near the resolution of a true native 4K projector. The Optima UHD65 isn't a bad projector. It is sharper than a 1080p pixel shifter. It just isn't as sharp as a true 4K native projector. It's biggest drawback is no lens features, poor contrast, poor black levels, and only can only reproduce rec 709 color space accurately. It fails to reproduce P3 color space and just remaps BT2020 color space to rec 709. That won't cut it with direct competition like Epson and JVC with their 1080p pixel shifters.
What are you talking about? It projects two images on top each other at 120 frames a second. Therefore two images in 1/60th of a second. The images are overlain, but overlap on top of one another because these pixels are twice as big as native 4K chips. An optical actuator shifts between the two images. The mirrors may operate at an incredibly fast speed but the mirrors don't shift the images, a mechanical lens system does.
dude this review has so many technical mistakes it is not even funny. Not only it is not native 4k, it also has pixel shifting technology in it. I can't help but notice there is a piece of paper behind each projector and the guy literally just read the specs off the paper. This is a very low qualify review that is obviously poorly prepared.
forgot to mention hdmi only has 2.0 defined as of 2019 (2.1 is announced but i don't see a lot of equipment supporting yet). i think he is confused with HDCP which the latest version is 2.2 but this is about content protection not HDMI throughput
I am sorry but no 3D on a projector is like buying a Ferrari that cannot go over 60Mph . Once in a while that you will want to let the acceleration go it will not. Major deal breaker.
I bought this projector last week; it's replacing the LG 1000UWP or whatever that was on sale on Prime Day. It was a short-throw but only 1,000 lumens. However, both projectors lack in the 3D department, which is absolutely sad. As beautiful as 4K and HDR are on this projector and my 100" screen. I would absolutely LOVE 3D. I'm just saving up for that Sony Short Throw Laser Projector, currently a steal at $25,000!
That is a terrible analogy lol. 3D is dead, I happen to like 3D myself and own quite a few movies but the reality of it is there are very few displays now that offer 3D
It is my analogy in my reality as for me it is so important. 3D is dead because the AV companies are trying hard to kill it as it saves them some money not because there is no market for it. I mean they had 3D in every other projector, why now? Just to cut down a little bit of cost. zairman, I am glad you don't, but for some people like me is a must. No TV can match the immersion of a projector in 3D.
Well back in actual reality it is still a terrible analogy. That's fine if it is important to you but 3D is dead because no one bought it. Why are companies going to spend money on features that basically no one cares about. And again to be clear i was a fan of 3D, i still own about 20 3D movies but in the end id rather have 4k over 3D
Oh I am really sorry that my analogy does not conform to your high "analogy" standards. I have just enrolled to a great expensive University to take classes so my future analogies will be compatible to the Great Bill Lindsay' School of thought and analogical science. I hope I will pass.
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Hey everyone! We realized after we posted this that we mentioned this is a 'native 4k' projector. That was a flub and obviously not the case, but it does produce a picture that is essentially equal in image detail to a native 4K projector. Unfortunately, we have no way of adding annotations to correct our mistake to the video anymore so we figured we'd own up to it in the comment section. At the end of the day, whether this projector is for you is going to boil down to personal preference - but having seen it in person next to native 4K projectors and other 4K enhancement projectors, it is still an incredibly impressive projector at this price point.
It's ok, we know you're paid by Optoma to try and sell us into believing it's true 4k.
U should take the video down cos i ended up buying this projector thinking it was native 4k now iam stuck trying to get my money back. Thats £3000 wasted . Thanks a lot buddy.
Maybe you should have looked at the specs of the projector before buying it, and watched more than a single video before making a £3000 purchasing decision.
Wait, so is it 1080p then?
Wait, so is it 1080p then?
Man, from just looking at pictures up until now, these projectors are huge!! They appear so compact in pictures haha
Big Turk - ThoughtI was the only one who noticed that.😂
Me too! Make sure it is BOLTED to a strong cross member in the ceiling. You don't want that falling on yer head! L0L
How do these compare to the epson 5040 ub? They are about the same price but the epson has 3d and electronic lens shift.
Is there really no key Stone correction? If not how can they account for various setups?
You have a knob that will allow for a 15 degree shift, but as far as fixing a not so even surface or more than straight on shot, you'll have to do a lot of manual configuration in the options.
thanks for the video and information Dave. I see all these folks bashing the Optoma because it is not "native 4K" but if it can output 8 million pixels on screen at any one point-in-time, according to CTA then it can be sold as a 4K projector. unlike the JVC and Epson E-shift LCD technology that does not qualify. Native 4K. no problem, you can go spend 4 times the money and buy a Sony (great projector, not putting it down) for $ 8K but most consumers would be hard pressed to visually see any difference (assuming content is 4K) and I for one, would rather spend the $ 6K difference on my family.
" but if it can output 8 million pixels on screen at any one point-in-time,"
But that is the reason people are upset about advertising this as True 4K. It can't put 8 million pixels on the screen at any one point in time. It puts only 4 million at anyone point in time. Then it shifts slightly and overlays a second 4 million pixel image at another point in time. It is a pixel shifter and Projector People clearly say in this review that it isn't. That is false. It is shifting pixels and does not have a native 4K resolution.
Also you may be comparing this to an 8K Sony, but it is true 4K, and it is brighter, better color, much better contrast, better blacks, and it is last year's model. Who knows what the price will be this year after Sept CEDIA event when the new projectors are announced?
If you compare this projector to a similarly priced Epson 5040UB which is also a pixel shifter, 1080p pixel shifter but can display a pseudo 4K image not quite as sharp as the Optoma, the Epson has a better lens, motorized focus, motorized wider zoom, much better black levels, native contrast of 6000:1 compared to Optoma 1800:1, it has 3D Optoma doesn't, it is brighter in calibrated lumens, it supports P3 color space, Optoma doesn't, it has much more lens shift both horizontal and vertical, and is of high quality build with 3 year replacement warranty.
So spend the difference of 6K on your family but buy a better projector because the Optoma doesn't quite cut it for Home Theater.
thanks for the opinion. which I respect, but I disagree. Are you an engineer? have you done a comparison between these competing projector manufactures, using the same content in a controlled environment? Then HDYK when you state better lens, better black levels etc the Optoma DOES have what is called HDR which utilizes what that manufacture refers to as REC.2020 and they DO say it has DCI-P3 color gamut? Unless they are lying on their web site and details sheet? Do the math: 3840 x 2160 (P) = 8,294,400 pixels. Your equating a SLOW e-shift 3-LCD process with the extremely fast shifting of TI's DLP technology -- which are not similar. goggle both, it is easy to research the differences. And one does not need a high lumen (brightness) count typically in a Home theater environment, actually some of the best and most costly projectors actually have very low lumen ratings because they are primarily meant to be used in low or no light settings. those too are also way out of my budget >:)
Hey I am not a expert, and i do not for a minute believe that sony's current $ 8,000 projector is all the sudden this holiday season going to cost dramatically less? It has been around a few years and has not really dropped ( i was hoping it would). I will save the $, and go with the Optoma 4K unit as IMO, it is the best bang for the buck. ultimately consumers will vote with wallets on which 4K projector they believe is the best value and technology to go with. But I do know this and will close. having used a projector (1080P) in my main HT now for over a year, especially when watching special HD content, sports and movies, I have a 96" screen and can never go back to a small flat panel again and if I had a room large enough, could go well above 200" size. no matter what projector one is leaning toward buying, a projector solution is the best viewing experience. peace brother.
Hi Steven,
Hey I wasn't just making stuff up. There are a number of professional reviewers on AVS forum who have the Optoma UHD65 and have professional grade test equipment and meters to test. So far the best native contrast numbers have been about 1600:1 which is very poor. For example the Epson easily beats 6000:1. Also the Optoma has very poor black levels, they are more milky-black instead of deep black like the Epson, JVC, and Sony projectors. Most think this is due to reducing the size of the mirrors in the DMD chip to up the resolution.
Also the specs are terribly misleading on Optima's website. The projector does not hit full p3 color space. It re-maps BT 2020 to Rec 709 space. Calibrators have only been able to hit rec 709 accuracy and about 70% P3. Which isn't bad but it isn't BT 2020 or full P3.
Yes, it supports HDR but once calibrated and you figure in the light loss from the color filters it only has about 800 lumens color calibrated brightness. This is nowhere near enough to reproduce decent HDR10 content. Also with a dynamic contrast as poor as the UHD65 there is no way you can play back a decent high dynamic range content.
Just because it reads a HDR10 signal doesn't mean it can deliver a good HDR presentation. Many projectors struggle with HDR even those in the 25K range and their true specs are much much better than the Optoma.
The Optima's best feature is that it delivers near true 4K resolution. It isn't true 4K resolution but it is close enough that most won't see much difference. Other than that it is a very limited projector. You have to give up a lot for a cheap high res projector. For a dedicated Home Theater it doesn't make much sense. But for a casual projector user who wants to watch 4K UHD movies at home and doesn't care about picture quality and convenience features then this projector is fine.
@@DurangoLegend Maybe Dave is a 'shifty' type??? L0L No 3D is a deal-breaker for moi. I'll have to save up another $1,000.00 or two I guess, for a JVC.
When is Optoma SUHD70 or SUHD75 available in the U.S.?
When can we expect the TI chip to be in units (from any manufacturer) with lens memory (power lens shift, zoom and focus)? Add in multi-lens so no RGB wheel.
These vs Epson 5040UB???
Kindly guide me which one to buy for home theater benq 2550 or optoma uhd60. Regards.
Will I be able to get a wide 2:35.1 picture with this projector?
Do you recommend this projector or the 5040ub for HDR movies?
Please review the Optoma UHZ65LV
is it very loud?
Is this projector has Widescreen built in Lens like Epson 6040UB 2.35:1 format or we need to buy extra lens for this Optoma UHD65.
what's the input lag or refresh rate on these projectors?
48ms= 1.5 frames @ 30 fps
I got the UHD65 in the first shipment batch.... be forewarned that the color contrast numbers are liberal as can be, color contrast is very notably worse than even the $1,000 BenQ w2150ST DLP when compared side by side.
The 4k IS amazing though. Color banding is an issue with certain content though.
How are black levels?
86scar86 Black levels are reasonable, definately passable. Watching the black and white footage in the World at War documentary is pleasant. Optoma gives it "1,200,000:1" but my old Epson 5030UB that was rated half that at 600,000:1 was superior for black levels even despite the rating difference.
I run the UHD in bright lamp mode even in a light controlled basement room in an attempt to get better color brightness (after reducing "brilliant color" from the default 10 which looks fake and tacky down to 2 on my reference content) so that does affect black levels in comparison to eco. Dynamic lamp mode is good for black levels but has an awful color contrast at the same time.
Optoma has so many post-processing effects enabled by default in an attempt to make it look better than it is to a casual user, but they all crush the picture quality in one way or another.
All that said I'm still keeping it for the 4k, yes it uses pixel shifting but it truly does accomplish a full 3840x2160 image with defined pixel grids using PC test images and compared with a 4k TV panel.
hard to get it all at cheap price! :)
This is definitely an area of tech that's likely to see alot of competition. This looks like a decent 4k projector but I'd rather wait for something better that I can stick with for many years.
All in all a very impressive picture. But i think the banding issues are pretty serious. :O/
Will this projector be able to show 2:35.1 ?
Uhd65 is mutch better image than Uhd60 ?? Thanks!
Yer not muTch if yer not Dutch! :P
i would like to know that whether the serial no. printed on the projector and the one shows on the system information in settings is the same or not.Two days ago i bought one uhd 65 and it shows QU65811AAAAAC0020 on the projector back side and in settings itsQ78V7120801.Pls reply .
Why no display port optoma, why?
Does the UHD optoma have a dust filter?
Yes
Is it better then benq w2000
Are they releasing one capable of 3D?
How would you compare it to the Vivitek HK2288 and 2488, and which would you recommend? I'm debating which to buy for my theater at home. I'm going to be running a Celerity HDMI over Fiber to the projector from a Denon AVR-x7200wa sourced from an OPPO 203 to get full 4:4:4 uncompressed video. It'll be projecting onto a Screen Innovations 5 series Slate Grey 0.8 gain 100" screen. This is going into a dedicated theater room as well.
mattwillis4 I would like to know the answer to this question also
You would be much better off staying away from the recent pseudo 4K UHD DLP projectors like the Optoma, BenQ, and Vivitek in a dedicated home theater. They have limited lens shift, no motorized lens controls, no lens memory, and extremely poor contrast. My advice would be to wait until CEDIA 2017 around labor day week where all the new Home Theater gear is announced. The similarly priced Epson 5040 is already a much better Home Theater projector than these Optomas and for a few dollars more you could get a JVC which completely destroys these Optomas. Unfortunately, DLP can't compete with LCoS or LCD anymore when it comes to black levels and contrast. I doubt any home theater enthusiast will buy these projectors as they just under perform and are missing standard features in exchange for a slightly higher resolution that still can't match true native 4K.
www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhd65-projector-comparison-sony-vpl-vw365es/ DurangoLegend nothing wrong with what you're saying except these have been consistently selling out and it seems to hold its own. I personally have a LCoS (Sony) and there are trade offs. Biggest being motion resolution. Oh maybe add cost. While the 5040 is nice, the fact its running a 10 gig HDMI virtually rules it out for gaming. There is downsides to all tech. You are flat out wrong on the higher resolutions. These are plainly matching true native 4k which we are seeing from owners sharing images. I agree again on missing features like greater shifts for placement though.
Just go to the AVS forum online and see the test patterns for yourself. These are not true 4k UHD projectors and they do employ an optical actuator to pixel shift the native resolution panel to simulate 4K . When you see the test patterns, then you will see why Home Theater Enthusiasts who have dedicated theaters wouldn't touch one of these for 4K. Especially considering the terrible contrast and black levels compared to similar priced LCoS and LCD projectors. Just because something sells well doesn't make it a quality product. Most DLP projectors sell well because they are inexpensive not because they provide the best video projection.
Also the motion handling is not getting good reviews. Testing has shown a lot of pixel smearing and many artifacts with these projectors.
True the 10 Gbps HDMI input is a problem for 4K gaming on the Epson but who knows what CEDIA 2017 will bring and JVC already has full 18 Gbps HDMI.
I am sure that there are many who don't know much about what projectors can deliver and just want a cheap pseudo 4K projector for fun. I don't have a problem with that. What I do have an issue with are these videos which state that these are native 4K projectors and don't use pixel shifting to produce pseudo 4K images. That is an outright lie.
Do you have a link for these pictured test patterns? I've found downloadable ones, but no images of the projectors throwing the test patterns.
What is the name of the song playing while the slides are being shown?
It did not shazam properly
I've sent in a bug report to Optoma which they confirmed existed, that Optical out sounds are compressed and not actually passthrough to a device. Supposedly it's in an upcoming firmware, but I have since been unable to get any kind of acknowledgment stating when that firmware update is due.
Also, I noticed on my projector that whenever white things are placed on screen there are a lot of blue artifacts that are present and move when the video is playing. If you place the movie on pause the artifacts are still there but stagnate. Does anyone know how to remove those?
Apart from that, I think the projector has some HDCP issues with flickering now and then, but I haven't ordered any optical HDMI cables yet to test.
Overall a great projector still.
Wow! May I ask what screen was used for this demo?
Yes jou may!
what about input lag? can i use it for games?
It ranges from 56 ms to 63 ms. Great question!
hi i think UHD 60 has lower input lag though!!!
WOW!!! Looking forward to getting one!!!
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Optoma uhd60/65 vs Epson 5040 ? What Champion???
Will it be able to play ps4 pro? What about latency
Thank you so much your review is Great and very helpful for me to choose among the two models
No 3D?
Thought it was perspective, but they're fucking huge!
This projector gets the job done pretty well. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxS9P8zTOcmQg-hH0QeUi3dspOLyYgQ6dH Bear in mind it's a mini projector but all things considered the picture quality is pretty good. The attached photo is of the projector projecting onto my white closet doors. I still have not messed with the settings but I can't wait for our first family movie night on a larger scale. If you have issues with volume not working with your firestick, go into volume settings and you will find your solution there.
which one is better for gaming
The UHD65 has higher input latency at least with current tests from users. Gaming Mode reduces latency on both models.
8phenom UHD60. please see Optoma website.
which is a better buy...this or the Epson Home Cinema 4000 ? really need help , want to spend my $$wisely and get the best bang for my very tight buck. thanks in advance
Where's the review part of this review? This is just a product overview.
I'm trying to figure out how this technology can be competitive going forward with the prices of 4K 70"+ sets becoming mainstream in the next few years.
Because you can get double that screen size with a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. I’ll go back to TV when they start making 100” scope screens.
@@Davek2sb Go back to school and learn EngRish first.
Mr. BLACKHAWK ok, I’ll go back to school and learn Engrish. lol
Mr. BLACKHAWK if you can’t understand what he’s saying maybe you’re the dumbass
Why no keystone? Will Optoma ever release a 4k projector with keystone.
So it's a projector that projects a nice clean print.......and?
I've always bought Optoma projectors and had been waiting for a long time for them to come up with 4k 3d projector, guess what no 3d!! I've been a loyal customer too, they've made my decision to jump ship.
I'm in the same boat! Love their 1080p 3D projectors and have been waiting years for a 3D 4K projector.. My only hope is that Optoma seem to release loads of different projectors, so I hold out hope
At least 3dready should have been possible in its native resolution (2560x1600) , with E-Shift disabled.
Can some one please tell me why the uhd65 that is considered a step up from the uhd60 has lower 2200 lumens compared to the uhd60 that has 3000 lumens? It's so frustrating!! Why do projector manufacturers do this? Sony does the same crap!
As a projector owner you need 3D, along with 4K because if 3D works, its on a projector! So no 3D no deal!
Look at the Vivitek 2488 - I believe that one does have 3D. Thing is, pretty much all content coming out is either 4k, or 1080 3D. Nothing that I can see that supports both.
so BIG it seem 1980 projector!!
This is not a native 4k projector. It is a pixel shifter.
DurangoLegend Not accurate. It uses mirrors system not shifting pixels. So you do get true 4k picture.
You really need to research a little before you make comments like that.
Yes, all DLP tech use mirrors. This particular DMD chip has a grid of 2716x1528 mirrors. Using light bounced off of this chip create the pixels which form the image. This chip is one half the resolution of a true 4K chip. The pixels formed are twice as big. So to get 8 million pixels on the screen this projector projects one image with about 4 million pixels. Then it uses an optical actuator to shift the pixel image 1 /2 pixel diagonally. This second image is projected over the top of the original 4 million pixel image. This all happens in 1/60th of second to form one frame.
This is identical to the pixel shifting projectors by Epson and JVC, only they use a native 1080p chip which is about 1/2 the resolution of the TI chip being used by the Optoma.
So to sum it all up, this is a pixel shifter. It has been given the UHD 4K marketing term because it displays 8 million pixels but they aren't displayed at the same time and they are twice as big as a true native 4K projector and they overlay each other. This has been confirmed with testing and reviews. The UHD 4K marketing tag is misleading because you could have a 1080p pixel shifter, shift 4 times and throw up 4 1080p images in 1/60th of second and it would get the UHD 4K marketing tag even though it is no where near the resolution of a true native 4K projector.
The Optima UHD65 isn't a bad projector. It is sharper than a 1080p pixel shifter. It just isn't as sharp as a true 4K native projector. It's biggest drawback is no lens features, poor contrast, poor black levels, and only can only reproduce rec 709 color space accurately. It fails to reproduce P3 color space and just remaps BT2020 color space to rec 709. That won't cut it with direct competition like Epson and JVC with their 1080p pixel shifters.
What are you talking about? It projects two images on top each other at 120 frames a second. Therefore two images in 1/60th of a second.
The images are overlain, but overlap on top of one another because these pixels are twice as big as native 4K chips.
An optical actuator shifts between the two images. The mirrors may operate at an incredibly fast speed but the mirrors don't shift the images, a mechanical lens system does.
These aren’t 4K bro! I have one
Harry Scott Elliott The one thing you have to understand the bigger the screen the more washed of the images even on a TV
umm...umm... ummm... ummm...so annoying.
lol
dude this review has so many technical mistakes it is not even funny. Not only it is not native 4k, it also has pixel shifting technology in it. I can't help but notice there is a piece of paper behind each projector and the guy literally just read the specs off the paper. This is a very low qualify review that is obviously poorly prepared.
forgot to mention hdmi only has 2.0 defined as of 2019 (2.1 is announced but i don't see a lot of equipment supporting yet). i think he is confused with HDCP which the latest version is 2.2 but this is about content protection not HDMI throughput
I am sorry but no 3D on a projector is like buying a Ferrari that cannot go over 60Mph . Once in a while that you will want to let the acceleration go it will not. Major deal breaker.
I bought this projector last week; it's replacing the LG 1000UWP or whatever that was on sale on Prime Day. It was a short-throw but only 1,000 lumens. However, both projectors lack in the 3D department, which is absolutely sad.
As beautiful as 4K and HDR are on this projector and my 100" screen. I would absolutely LOVE 3D.
I'm just saving up for that Sony Short Throw Laser Projector, currently a steal at $25,000!
That is a terrible analogy lol. 3D is dead, I happen to like 3D myself and own quite a few movies but the reality of it is there are very few displays now that offer 3D
It is my analogy in my reality as for me it is so important. 3D is dead because the AV companies are trying hard to kill it as it saves them some money not because there is no market for it. I mean they had 3D in every other projector, why now? Just to cut down a little bit of cost.
zairman, I am glad you don't, but for some people like me is a must. No TV can match the immersion of a projector in 3D.
Well back in actual reality it is still a terrible analogy. That's fine if it is important to you but 3D is dead because no one bought it. Why are companies going to spend money on features that basically no one cares about. And again to be clear i was a fan of 3D, i still own about 20 3D movies but in the end id rather have 4k over 3D
Oh I am really sorry that my analogy does not conform to your high "analogy" standards. I have just enrolled to a great expensive University to take classes so my future analogies will be compatible to the Great Bill Lindsay' School of thought and analogical science. I hope I will pass.
This is NOT native 4K! You should do your research before saying trash.