@@justsayin5084 So you can't see the obvious atrophy, those deeper quad dents, the inflammation in the glutes???? I'm a Ramy fan too but you need to open your eyes like me and the others have, he's MUCH worse here than 2020.
Dennis is deluded. The pictures he’s uploaded saying Ramy looked on point, look the same as Ramy on stage. Wider waist and all the same atrophy and issues
Dennis,never compare Ramy with Ronnie ever again,he wasn't even close to Ronnie's 2003 condition,not even close man,have some respect for what Ronnie brought at the 2003 Olympia, because Remy wasn't even close man, but still a great podcast though 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
I agree with you to a point. Remember Ronnie had a really bad bubble gut whereas Ramy has always had a very tight waist especially when you consider his proportions.
Dennis seems to be in denial about Ramys issues. He accepts that Ramy has these issues, but he seems to think because Ramy was gifted the Olympia in the past with said issues, that he was going to be gifted the title again this year.
@@newonevery740 Steve Weinberger, the head judge said that if Ramy shows up same as in 2021 he loses. Forget all these RUclipsrs. I put more weight on Steve's word.
This clown Dennis keeps saying Ramy was flat 😂😂 the problem wasn’t his condition bro he had muscle problems lol half of his back was gone ,triceps were gone ,holes in his quads , inflammation in his glutes !!! N Dennis keeps saying he was just flat lol😂😂😂😂
Every one of these other RUclipsrs seen these things before the O and still thought he was gonna I don’t get why Dennis is taking so much heat over this stupid shit
What are you talking about, exactly? I’m hearing people describing what they saw right in front of their eyes while also giving Ramy respect as a past champion and praising him as one of the nicest and most beloved competitors in the sport.
Youre so right ramy has been used for fame and now that he won twice his body cant take all the shit anymore, hes gonna have health problems soon is he choose to continue to pursue the title next year
: ) He's been pretty much the same in all three shows. Saw him row one at Arnold UK - Fr Relaxed, FDB, FLS and A+T he is unreal / Other quarter turns, SC, ST, BDB, BLS, MM is beatable. That being said, he's had a great first year.
The main gripe is how was the interpretation of what was expected of Ramy so wrong when Chad and Dennis saw him week by week, even day by day. They even said this would be Ramy's version of Coleman's 2003 transformation. We were told he would be absolutely at his best. If this were a fight with bets on. People would be Piiiissssed because they hyped Ramy so much. This wasn't wasn't even a condition issue. Chad brought him in condition. But he was missing bodyparts, that was overlooked that much? No triceps? Lats down? Lower back worse?
My guy, you hit the nail ABSOLUTELY on the head! This is the thing that bugged me- how we were hyped up from week to week, even daily, about how unbelievable the physique Ramy was going to bring would be. The conditioning was perfect, but atrophied/missing body parts like you stated! It's a combination of age and perhaps the training methods used for Ramy need to be switched up.
Do you know what it mean to come in flat? One miscalculation especially when you’re chasing conditioning for a guy his size is all it takes for it to happen. Bodybuilding is subjective and everyone knows that - you can’t “bet” on shit in this sport lol - there ain’t no sure wins. Ever. A bodybuilders physique can change Min to Min let alone day to day before a show. The video of him posing one week out is on the internet and he looked great…..that’s not the physique we saw on stage.
So let me get this straight. When Ramy is the champ Dennis rides on his cocktails and get tons of money from Ramy’s sponsors, but when Ramy is looking like shit, he doesn’t ask questions… I see.
BTW ramy didn't look like s..t Come on man you could be more respectful the end of the day his much better people like you. At least his not set his ass in the couch like use .
Why? You act as if bodybuilders come in perfect shape every show and never age or never decline. It happens so stop playing the blame game and being a sissy. The game is not over but even if it was what does it mean to ramy or Dennis when a troll like you says it. Dennis is a great coach and ramy was still top 6 and was a great champ.
What Dennis is not getting is that all of ramys issues were extremely noticeable now more than past 2 years. Yes he’s had them but in 2020 he was peaked so well you didn’t notice as much but now it seems father time is catching him
@@j-uk2189 that’s all genetics lmao and those guys weren’t all shot up with nerve damage and atrophy. Kevin used to take months off of gear and training that preserves the body a lot. Kevin def didn’t look his best at 50. Father Time is all relative to genetics and how bad you beat the body
@@anth2290 Dorian had a tricep and bicep tear in his 30’s. He also had zero coach. So why is Ramy só beat up, considering today we know so much more about everything?
@@user-xn6ej5pt5u it Seems to me whoever works with Chad gets fucked up very quickly. Ronnie got fucked and there’s a lot more. Shawn Ray said it about this guy a few times.
When you hear a guy like Chris wondering how they've got striated glutes - yet everything else is smooth, it really hits home how open bodybuilding has changed!
Mens open was the longest wait ever! So many divisions and competitors drags the show. That could of hurt the competitors peaking. They need better scheduling for sure
Dennis is wrong about "nobody is responsible to explain nothing to nobody." He's one of Ramy's coaches, Ramy is a professional athlete who makes his living because the fans of bodybuilding spend their hard-earned money watching the sport and supporting him and his coaches. If it weren't for the fans of BB, Dennis James wouldn't have a job as a BB coach. He didn't have any problem getting on RUclips prior to the Olympia and getting all of the fans excited to see what Ramy was going to look like at the contest, but now that Ramy came in 5th place, he doesn't feel he owes the fans an explanation? As for his statement that he doesn't give a care about what anybody thinks? Come on! If he didn't care about what anybody thinks he wouldn't be reading all of the messages and comments. What do you all think?
You can clearly see that the comments affected him. Wasnt the same Dennis today Like in all the previous Shows. And i bet He knows exactly whats "wrong" with Ramy& that this Mr.O was his last one. Remenber what Steve said on the Podcast about Ramy...
That part of the podcast really pissed me off. He wouldn't have had a career as a bb without fans, he wouldn't be a coach and he wouldn't have a podcast if it weren't for all of us, so he's disregarding for people's opinion is just ridiculous and very disrespectful. Of course he should address the criticism, of course he should care about what we have to say and of course he should answer to the people that now feel were lied to and mislead (sorry about my English, but it's not my first language)
Tells you all you need to know how much of a joke Olympia thong wars really is. They even managed to fuck up the live stream. Can't get anything right.
Dennis is in complete denial of Ramy’s issues. Ramy was squeezing his shoulders and lats together on back double biceps. It looked like a high schooler pose. His lower back is a problem especially when you have other competitors with a lower back or a shorter torso. Ramy doesn’t need yes men around him.
dennis du kannst dich von ramys resultat nicht rausnehmen u einfach alles auf chad schieben, du bist genauso schuld am schlechten ergebnis wie chad, du kannst nicht nur bei tollen erfolgen dir auf die brust klopfen, du musst auch deinen kopf hinhalten, wenns mal nicht so gut ausgeht!!!!!POINT!!!
I'm surprised Milos would say Cutler came back in 09 so Rami can also. Cutler was not injured he just missed his Peak. Ramy has a lot of muscular flaws now. Big difference.
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage It gets sad at the end like Nasser his physique was just ruined. Ramy wont look better again. It will be like Ronnies last couple years.
@@jkbjezza The government's working on that just give them time😉 I don't care what he does I'm just saying it's sad to see. I hope he's just smart enough to really reevaluate and think about his health while he still has it. I've watched so many before him destroy their health.
Exactly , don't hype up Ramy, going as far as calling him a 2003 Ronnie. It's actually a disgrace you went that far and presented a broken down physique hardly worth the top 10.
I really like DJ, but obviously you do care or you wouldn't have made the post essentially blaming Chad. So to act like " I don't care what people say, I have thick skin" etc....you can't say that now and a few days ago had made the post saying " everything was good when Ramy was in my hands, I'm not sure what happened after that"
James denying everything , Farrah needs sacking by Andrew Jacked here's a thought guys take responsibility Dennis if nothing needs saying why did you immediately deny everything
Also nick beat Sampson! I love milos but I wonder if he gets to carried away with shape. It’s a part of bodybuilding but why would it not be rated behind conditioning and muscle size? It takes work to get that much lean muscle, but does it take any work to get structure? No it takes the least amount. Your bone structure is all genetics. I don’t want to see people get taken out of contention because their shape isn’t good enough. I’m not saying shape shouldn’t count, but putting it over conditioning and muscle size I don’t agree with. Just my opinion.
Because bodybuilding WAS about having the best looking physique combined with size and conditioning. Shape means everything. No one wants to see big ugly muscular bodies. Inferior genetics should not be celebrated and should not represent bodybuilding.
You don't judge AMOUNT OF WORK someone puts in... You judge a physique. Many people are saying - Dorian was HARDEST WORKER....would not let anyone out-work him... He "worked/trained" 4 hours a week - MAX. I know people who did 5 times that much... But, that's irrelevant. If you can look like Mr Olympia - without even training - you should win it even without breaking a sweat. Our sport is called: BODYBUILDING Its not the same as MUSCLEBUILDING 🤫
@@its-amestarlord Bodybuilding is obviously not a healthy sport.. everyone in the sport knows that, but you can mitigate 99% of risks with proper coaching and following certain protocols. With your logic, no sport is healthy, because there are chances of getting injured.
I liked what Dennis said about reading the negative comments and laughing about them. I think it makes weak people feel better to bash others. I’m not talking criticism, but people will say the craziest things. It’s like ramy fans have to put the blame on everyone and give zero blame to ramy. It’s like they never follow bodybuilding before and don’t understand people can come in off. It’s not like you can’t improve. I hope ramy comes back and I have no doubt Chad and Dennis will continue to coach top bodybuilders. Great show as always!
Goerge farah, please let Andrew go to Hany rambod, or at least Milos sarcev. Those who would make Andrew easily win the olympia. You are good, but you should please leave Andrew and let him go to any of them. no disrespect.
Excellent podcast as always guys. Typically when a bodybuilder doesn’t do so well we dissect the reasons or possibilities and focus on the why. I truly think Ramy just didn’t peak properly simple and plain. Now I think Dennis is spot on Ramy should do the Arnold start the year off with a win then about 9 months to prep for the Olympia. Keep these round table discussions coming Im looking forward to the next one already.
14:15 Really? The head judge Steve Weinberger openly said that Ramy got worse compared to 2021. Worse in the back, worse in the triceps and worse in the holes in the quads. As a bonus Ramy's calves look atrophied too. These guys think we are blind.
When Ramy looked excellent and being tipped the front runner to win Dennis was saying how Ramy was looking insane and even showing photos on his mobile on podcasts. THEN when things went wrong and Ramy got 5th he sort of steered away from the sinking ship so to speak and said that he does not know what happened since its the coach who is in control of things. Just like he was bluffing with Ramys check-in pics he should have included himself in the downfall. Had Ramy won, Dennis have acted that the ‘RAMY-NICHOLLS-DENNIS squad’ had once again won the Olympia, like he had done during the past two years. Yes, of course the coach is the one in control in the final stage but you still have to include yourself and not brush off the responsibility because if Ramy had won, he would have said he was part of the successful team. So if you lose you are part of the losing team too.
No one is talking about what potentially really screwed many of the competitors and that's the ridiculous time the event took place. If the event Pre-Judge was at 9 am for Open on Friday and Finals Saturday at 6 PM it would have been one of the craziest battles ever happened.
Come on guys Samson is 37 years old he's not going to all of a sudden develop a Lee Haney back! He's got a great physique just needs to continually refine now Reagan Grimes on the other hand has that back potential can't wait to see what he brings in another year!
He definitely will get better for next year I mean ronnie was 35 when he won his first O! Don't say Andrew wins the O next year but who knows he is looking crazy everybody said that in real life he doesn't look even human iain said backstage this dude looked like something out of this world and everybody else looked like they no even working out like absolute amateurs! When dude brings his back up a bit and gets conditioned he is a contender for that title.
I think no one wants to openly say what was the biggest problem with Big Ramy.....his waist became wider and this disturbed his symmetry and overall impression. the hollows on the legs and the lack of the lower third of the back certainly didn't help, but that was already known, only now it's even more pronounced than before. Also, the hands somehow got lost , got smaller in his overall physiognomy. Both of them, Hadi and Derek, came with very good definition and both are very symmetrically built, so Ramy's wider waist hurt his otherwise "fragile symmetry" all the more.
Straight up, Ramy didn't deserve it last year, and it was questionable the year before that. Believe me, I was ecstatic that he won in 2020, but it was questionable. The dude got a gift as he was on the decline. You gotta look at him with fresh eyes, like he's a new competitor, every year - don't compare him to previous versions of himself. What we're seeing now is judge's remorse. They know he got a gift two years in a row, and they're sending a strong message about their newer, higher standards.
Congratulations 🎊 to NICK WALKER on Winning the People’s Champion Award 🥇 and I feel he with his strong mindset will be back to Win the next Olympia 23
Sorry I don’t know why everyone is so in love with Brandeo. He’s good but I agree Milos the dude honestly needs 15-20 lbs of muscle. He looked like a little guy near the top guys. I’m all set with him.
it's always very funny to watch how everyone comes up with all these excuses after the competition to explain why they didn't do well hahaha just tell the truth, you all didn't do well enough, period!!!!
Milos shouldn’t tell Samson to do the Arnold that’s a very stupid decision he just finished a harsh 4 month diet and the Arnold is in 3 months. Samson has so much potential it would be far better if he takes time off build some more tissue to get a higher place at the O next year
Samson needs to keep getting conditioned so doing the Arnold will push him further to his goal. Once he gets there it will be easier for him to reach that condition again or get close to it.
Oh yeah...please tell us what we should do... You know better. 🤡 It is 200K prize money to a winner and a prestigious title. Duhhhh🙄 Before Olympia Samson already had his mind set to do it...and of course - I support him. When I started with Samson - he suppose to do only 2 shows....and I told him he should do all 6 about a year ago...plus 3 this year... If you live in the World where you can work 2-3 days per week and miss the other days if you wish - all the power to you. His job is: TO COMPETE and make a living doing it.
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage , get some rest dude!!! Know your sick. But gotta love your passion for the sport. Surprised i never got a chance to meet you back in the day
Hes literally a nicks hater its sad to listen him… someone should just tell him that no one cares about his samsons shape if he looks like on off season mini cut
🤔...if I express my opinion....and actually someone gets offended - I shouldn't bring back the topic and discuss it in more detail? I asked the question....and Jose answered instantly... Listen to it again. BTW - I love Jose and how objective and knowledgeable he really is. ❤🙌🏻
@@Ziaurelijus - I literally love Nick. And admire him a great deal. I just pointed out one thing (that should be obvious to everyone 🤫). Who's physique is better. But, there are many things that come in play when you judge the show...and his better conditioning obviously played a major role...but the point I was trying to make is still there. 😉
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage of course you're allowed to bring up the topic again. I'm just surprised that you didn't also take the opportunity to bring up how overrated academic fitness studies are while George was on the podcast lol
10:35 I laughed my as off and must have replayed 15 times just to see everyone’s reactions ! Dennis ! George ! and Chris pointing at himself , like I said that ? That was the best ! Thank you guys and thank you Dennis, you made my Christmas!
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage Milos I will meet you someday and from the time I competed in the NPC and on through your career and coaching you were an inspiration to me. You may not have placed high in the mass monster era , but your physique was the one me and many others were striving for ! Wishing you health and success in the coming new year . I will meet you soon hopefully, really love your input !
I still don't get it why Derek placed second with soft chest Arms abs and skinny quads? this is a strong indication that Hadi is not getting it next year they will give it to the baby muscles Derek, just to shut the fans and critics they gave it to Hadi this year.
It's obvious they wanted Derek to win but would look weird if he won it the first time so they gave it to Hadi. Just look at how much the IFBB brass is promoting Derek even more than Hadi.
Milos: Hope you are recovering from COVID well. Your video of posing instruction with Flex Wheeler to help Andrew was super educational. Thank you for all you do 🙏
I actually had Lundsford in 4th in my pre Olympia prediction based on his shape. He actually blew my mind when he walked out more than any other athlete did..I don't think that baby muscle is going to change on Derek. His frame and muscle shape is phenomenal, but I don't see that changing that hardness of his pecs. That was always an issue with Jay Cutler. He always had that lack of hardness look through his chest and outer biceps. It just has a doughy look like it grew too fast!
I think the more he competes it will harden up especially working with hady in the upcoming years, he’s only 29 and he put on over 20 lbs of muscle in one season. If he puts on 3-5 more lbs especially in the legs and focuses on detail he will win in my opinion
Yes. Steven straight up said that the regression of lower back and triceps hurt Ramy. Steve is a straight shooter. Even in 2018 he openly said that Phil lost because of his stomach distention.
Ramy is still a 2 time Mr O who at his best could stand with any of the greatest. Sure he may not beat Ronnie's, Dorian's or Phil's best but he wouldn't be crushed.
I like Ramy however previous shows Dennis was soooo confident that Rami is in first place 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I hope he learned his lesson 😂😂😂😂. I hope Dennis has his humble pie now and stop becoming overconfident on his boy Rami 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm with you Dennis. All of said Ramy is going to win even tho flaws was already there but I think those flaws was much worse when he got tightened up. Didn't you hear Steve already told what was wrong with Ramy? He told back was gone, triceps were gone, etc. and also condition didn't satisfy them so I'm sorry my friend; Ramys career is pretty much over.
Two show tiers for pros Tier 2 show winners have a till the end of the following colander year where they can compete at tier 1 shows (If you win in say March 2023 you have until the end of 2024 to compete in a tier 1 show) Tier 1 show winners qualify for the Olympia and you stay qualified for tier 1 shows until the end of the following calendar year Only top 3 at the Olympia re-qualify Pro shows can have tier 1 & 2 line ups at same show
If Iain and Brandon had changed coaches between each other both would've placed waaaayyyy better. Iain looked overcooked, flat, dieted to death, shaky and his posing was as usual not good. Brandon was huge but he looked 4 weeks out at best. Honestly a they both could've placed as well as they have in the past that being 7th and 1st if they didn't go to one extreme too far.
Good man Dennis. You and George are so right. Don't listen to the big mouths on the sidelines who don't have the confidence to go onto the playing field but the confidence to make judgments on those who play the game.
Oh My God DJ was hit in the head, he has some nerves, but no spine, if it's not man enough to recognize and assume a part of the failure. It is responsible especially because he was the one that created so much hype about Ramy's best shape ever before Olympia. And now comes with this attitude. The people from the industry that are close to him should make him aware about this. And it is only fair to assume a part of the failure, not only the success. At least a true man does like this.
Dennis: (7:30) “everything was fine”. Except his back and tricep atrophy, quad holes, ass lumps, and blocky waist.
I'm rolling
You missed the atrophy of inner calve heads!🤣
His dick looked smaller also. 👍🏼
Nah he ment it all looked the same like last 2 years where he won
@@justsayin5084 So you can't see the obvious atrophy, those deeper quad dents, the inflammation in the glutes???? I'm a Ramy fan too but you need to open your eyes like me and the others have, he's MUCH worse here than 2020.
Dennis is deluded. The pictures he’s uploaded saying Ramy looked on point, look the same as Ramy on stage. Wider waist and all the same atrophy and issues
Not flat tho. That's the whole point they were making. Have You listened?
Dennis,never compare Ramy with Ronnie ever again,he wasn't even close to Ronnie's 2003 condition,not even close man,have some respect for what Ronnie brought at the 2003 Olympia, because Remy wasn't even close man, but still a great podcast though 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
Ronnie looked like shite at 03 compared to 98,99 or 01
@@goodman_1955 Yeah compared to him self..
Not others!
@@goodman_1955 that's debatable, but my man Dennis compared Remy 2022 to Ronnie 2003,and that was not even close👍🏾💪🏾👊🏾
I agree with you to a point. Remember Ronnie had a really bad bubble gut whereas Ramy has always had a very tight waist especially when you consider his proportions.
@@yehbuddy1005 yeah you are right about the bubble gut, but still Ronnie out massed him out conditioned him ....everything....
Dennis seems to be in denial about Ramys issues. He accepts that Ramy has these issues, but he seems to think because Ramy was gifted the Olympia in the past with said issues, that he was going to be gifted the title again this year.
Oh a nick trigili fan
@@newonevery740 Steve Weinberger, the head judge said that if Ramy shows up same as in 2021 he loses. Forget all these RUclipsrs. I put more weight on Steve's word.
This clown Dennis keeps saying Ramy was flat 😂😂 the problem wasn’t his condition bro he had muscle problems lol half of his back was gone ,triceps were gone ,holes in his quads , inflammation in his glutes !!! N Dennis keeps saying he was just flat lol😂😂😂😂
Dennis is in denial and none of these guys wanna shit on Ramy and call out all the glaring problems with his physique.
Every one of these other RUclipsrs seen these things before the O and still thought he was gonna
I don’t get why Dennis is taking so much heat over this stupid shit
Know ur facts meathead. Head judge said conditioning was an issue. But this and other factors in play which pushed him to 5th spot.
Sad to see how Ramy was used for fame and now left alone in his defeat
How exactly was he used and is now alone? He's still best friends with Dennis
What are you talking about, exactly? I’m hearing people describing what they saw right in front of their eyes while also giving Ramy respect as a past champion and praising him as one of the nicest and most beloved competitors in the sport.
Youre so right ramy has been used for fame and now that he won twice his body cant take all the shit anymore, hes gonna have health problems soon is he choose to continue to pursue the title next year
How? Dennis and Chad are still in talks with him and he’s getting support from Egypt fans.
Quite a dumb remark....
George: we will bring the remaining 15 percent of Andrew's best in next show..
Lmfaooooo
How you know that
He's still only 70%
: ) He's been pretty much the same in all three shows. Saw him row one at Arnold UK - Fr Relaxed, FDB, FLS and A+T he is unreal / Other quarter turns, SC, ST, BDB, BLS, MM is beatable. That being said, he's had a great first year.
He had bronchitis this time, next time it will be Covid lol. All jokes aside he looked great
You can tell Dennis James that the criticism hit him. He looks a bit depressed.
Dennis was so wrong 😂
The main gripe is how was the interpretation of what was expected of Ramy so wrong when Chad and Dennis saw him week by week, even day by day. They even said this would be Ramy's version of Coleman's 2003 transformation. We were told he would be absolutely at his best.
If this were a fight with bets on. People would be Piiiissssed because they hyped Ramy so much. This wasn't wasn't even a condition issue. Chad brought him in condition. But he was missing bodyparts, that was overlooked that much? No triceps? Lats down? Lower back worse?
like a pump and dump crypto scam
My guy, you hit the nail ABSOLUTELY on the head! This is the thing that bugged me- how we were hyped up from week to week, even daily, about how unbelievable the physique Ramy was going to bring would be. The conditioning was perfect, but atrophied/missing body parts like you stated! It's a combination of age and perhaps the training methods used for Ramy need to be switched up.
@@Chopper650 lol perfect metaphor bro
Couldn’t agree more. 👍🏼
Do you know what it mean to come in flat? One miscalculation especially when you’re chasing conditioning for a guy his size is all it takes for it to happen. Bodybuilding is subjective and everyone knows that - you can’t “bet” on shit in this sport lol - there ain’t no sure wins. Ever. A bodybuilders physique can change Min to Min let alone day to day before a show.
The video of him posing one week out is on the internet and he looked great…..that’s not the physique we saw on stage.
Imagine if Andrew swapped George for Hani
DM him
That would be a game changer
I love Chris’s attitude! No wonder why Dorian also loved him! 😂😂 i just want Dorian and Chris to do their own podcast and tell stories 😂
Chris is a great storyteller
@MdoubleHB all top level athletes are taking peds to win. Facts. Even snooker players you dweeb
@MdoubleHB animals eat OTHER ANIMALS…
53:49 Dennis has been saying it’s not nerve damage this whole time. Here’s a time stamp of him saying it may be nerve damage 🙄
So let me get this straight.
When Ramy is the champ Dennis rides on his cocktails and get tons of money from Ramy’s sponsors, but when Ramy is looking like shit, he doesn’t ask questions…
I see.
👀.???
You have no idea !!
Did u just say “ cocktails “ lmao ??? U mean coat tails ?
@@justinspires4131 haha possibly on purpose?
BTW ramy didn't look like s..t
Come on man you could be more respectful the end of the day his much better people like you.
At least his not set his ass in the couch like use .
Game Over for Ramy & Dennis as well.
Why? You act as if bodybuilders come in perfect shape every show and never age or never decline. It happens so stop playing the blame game and being a sissy. The game is not over but even if it was what does it mean to ramy or Dennis when a troll like you says it.
Dennis is a great coach and ramy was still top 6 and was a great champ.
u sound like a hater
For Dennis??? Dennis isnt his coach!
@@renatodealmeida83 , net ry
Bold words. Unfortunately sometimes people have to eat their words. 😰
Everyone in Ramy’s Corner that was talking BIG on Ramy should & must take RESPONSIBILITY for how shiiitttyyyy he was. Period
George sympathizes with Dennis because he is nother one that is big talk and no action
What Dennis is not getting is that all of ramys issues were extremely noticeable now more than past 2 years. Yes he’s had them but in 2020 he was peaked so well you didn’t notice as much but now it seems father time is catching him
Father Time? He’s 38? Not
48 or 58. Brandon’s 40. Dexter Jackson was older and Kevin come out of retirement in his 50’s and looked better.
@@j-uk2189 that’s all genetics lmao and those guys weren’t all shot up with nerve damage and atrophy. Kevin used to take months off of gear and training that preserves the body a lot. Kevin def didn’t look his best at 50. Father Time is all relative to genetics and how bad you beat the body
I don't remember Ramy's triceps being like that one year ago but maybe that's just me🤔
@@anth2290 Dorian had a tricep and bicep tear in his 30’s. He also had zero coach. So why is Ramy só beat up, considering today we know so much more about everything?
@@user-xn6ej5pt5u it
Seems to me whoever works with Chad gets fucked up very quickly. Ronnie got fucked and there’s a lot more. Shawn Ray said it about this guy a few times.
Having this without Chad is kinda fucked up
When you hear a guy like Chris wondering how they've got striated glutes - yet everything else is smooth, it really hits home how open bodybuilding has changed!
Agree 👍🏾 I suppose genetics ? I think even hany said it that derek still has baby muscle still needs time to really get that maturity through
@@1871kwame1 it's GH insulin
Dennis doing the "I don't care what anyone says, I actually get a kick out of it" schtick. Dudes objectively butt hurt
1:13:59 😂😂 “He was flat” Dennis is comical.
Mens open was the longest wait ever! So many divisions and competitors drags the show. That could of hurt the competitors peaking. They need better scheduling for sure
Dennis did not see a triceps missing 😂😂😂
Dennis is wrong about "nobody is responsible to explain nothing to nobody." He's one of Ramy's coaches, Ramy is a professional athlete who makes his living because the fans of bodybuilding spend their hard-earned money watching the sport and supporting him and his coaches. If it weren't for the fans of BB, Dennis James wouldn't have a job as a BB coach. He didn't have any problem getting on RUclips prior to the Olympia and getting all of the fans excited to see what Ramy was going to look like at the contest, but now that Ramy came in 5th place, he doesn't feel he owes the fans an explanation?
As for his statement that he doesn't give a care about what anybody thinks? Come on! If he didn't care about what anybody thinks he wouldn't be reading all of the messages and comments. What do you all think?
You can clearly see that the comments affected him.
Wasnt the same Dennis today Like in all the previous Shows.
And i bet He knows exactly whats "wrong" with Ramy& that this Mr.O was his last one.
Remenber what Steve said on the Podcast about Ramy...
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That part of the podcast really pissed me off. He wouldn't have had a career as a bb without fans, he wouldn't be a coach and he wouldn't have a podcast if it weren't for all of us, so he's disregarding for people's opinion is just ridiculous and very disrespectful. Of course he should address the criticism, of course he should care about what we have to say and of course he should answer to the people that now feel were lied to and mislead (sorry about my English, but it's not my first language)
Hadi is number 1 finally! Well deserved champ.
5 bodybuilders who went worse and bad placing this Olympia:-
1brandon
2big RAMY
3hunter
4bonac
5Iaian
THE DROPKICK EXPERIENCE!!!!
Nick was winning the Olympia too 😂
@@ybeats4718 He said who dropped placings. Nick improved placings.
No one mentioned about how long they had to wait backstage and how that could've been a reason why so many guys were "off".
Tells you all you need to know how much of a joke Olympia thong wars really is. They even managed to fuck up the live stream. Can't get anything right.
Exactly
Dennis is in complete denial of Ramy’s issues. Ramy was squeezing his shoulders and lats together on back double biceps. It looked like a high schooler pose. His lower back is a problem especially when you have other competitors with a lower back or a shorter torso. Ramy doesn’t need yes men around him.
dennis du kannst dich von ramys resultat nicht rausnehmen u einfach alles auf chad schieben, du bist genauso schuld am schlechten ergebnis wie chad, du kannst nicht nur bei tollen erfolgen dir auf die brust klopfen, du musst auch deinen kopf hinhalten, wenns mal nicht so gut ausgeht!!!!!POINT!!!
George Farah must be having eye problem if he claims Hunter wasn't better this year. He also had Blessing in top 10.
I'm surprised Milos would say Cutler came back in 09 so Rami can also. Cutler was not injured he just missed his Peak. Ramy has a lot of muscular flaws now. Big difference.
I personally don't think he should...But, how can you discourage a competitor....especially a champion NOT TO?
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage It gets sad at the end like Nasser his physique was just ruined. Ramy wont look better again. It will be like Ronnies last couple years.
@@latman1 Ultimately it's the athlete's decision- it would be sad if Ramy came back worse but one human can't control the decisions of another.
@@jkbjezza The government's working on that just give them time😉 I don't care what he does I'm just saying it's sad to see. I hope he's just smart enough to really reevaluate and think about his health while he still has it. I've watched so many before him destroy their health.
George is a top coach - just look at Blessing and Andrew’s conditioning at the Olympia…
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You’re delusional
Exactly , don't hype up Ramy, going as far as calling him a 2003 Ronnie. It's actually a disgrace you went that far and presented a broken down physique hardly worth the top 10.
Ron still the best ever
Dennis looks tired 😩
That late start time of the athletes would have killed me, competing!!!!
I really like DJ, but obviously you do care or you wouldn't have made the post essentially blaming Chad. So to act like " I don't care what people say, I have thick skin" etc....you can't say that now and a few days ago had made the post saying " everything was good when Ramy was in my hands, I'm not sure what happened after that"
"Wait, YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT SAMPSON" !! Dam Milos you crack me up bro and I thank you for it :-)
James denying everything , Farrah needs sacking by Andrew Jacked here's a thought guys take responsibility Dennis if nothing needs saying why did you immediately deny everything
Also nick beat Sampson! I love milos but I wonder if he gets to carried away with shape. It’s a part of bodybuilding but why would it not be rated behind conditioning and muscle size? It takes work to get that much lean muscle, but does it take any work to get structure? No it takes the least amount. Your bone structure is all genetics. I don’t want to see people get taken out of contention because their shape isn’t good enough. I’m not saying shape shouldn’t count, but putting it over conditioning and muscle size I don’t agree with. Just my opinion.
Because bodybuilding WAS about having the best looking physique combined with size and conditioning. Shape means everything. No one wants to see big ugly muscular bodies. Inferior genetics should not be celebrated and should not represent bodybuilding.
You don't judge AMOUNT OF WORK someone puts in...
You judge a physique.
Many people are saying - Dorian was HARDEST WORKER....would not let anyone out-work him...
He "worked/trained" 4 hours a week - MAX.
I know people who did 5 times that much...
But, that's irrelevant.
If you can look like Mr Olympia - without even training - you should win it even without breaking a sweat.
Our sport is called: BODYBUILDING
Its not the same as MUSCLEBUILDING 🤫
Samson was a smooth as butter, how can 'conditioning' like that win ?
These so called gurus ,Why Don’t Dennis invite MATT JENSEN and Hany on..The real Top 2 gurus!!
As long as Ramy is feeling good and healthy, I think he should do the Arnold!!🏆
We all know how ”healthy” bb is at that level.
@@its-amestarlord Bodybuilding is obviously not a healthy sport.. everyone in the sport knows that, but you can mitigate 99% of risks with proper coaching and following certain protocols. With your logic, no sport is healthy, because there are chances of getting injured.
Air head.
I liked what Dennis said about reading the negative comments and laughing about them. I think it makes weak people feel better to bash others. I’m not talking criticism, but people will say the craziest things. It’s like ramy fans have to put the blame on everyone and give zero blame to ramy. It’s like they never follow bodybuilding before and don’t understand people can come in off. It’s not like you can’t improve. I hope ramy comes back and I have no doubt Chad and Dennis will continue to coach top bodybuilders. Great show as always!
Goerge farah, please let Andrew go to Hany rambod, or at least Milos sarcev. Those who would make Andrew easily win the olympia. You are good, but you should please leave Andrew and let him go to any of them. no disrespect.
Agreed but George Farah not going to take a goldpot away
Milos cardo king 😂😂😂😂😂
Excellent podcast as always guys. Typically when a bodybuilder doesn’t do so well we dissect the reasons or possibilities and focus on the why. I truly think Ramy just didn’t peak properly simple and plain. Now I think Dennis is spot on Ramy should do the Arnold start the year off with a win then about 9 months to prep for the Olympia. Keep these round table discussions coming Im looking forward to the next one already.
14:15 Really? The head judge Steve Weinberger openly said that Ramy got worse compared to 2021. Worse in the back, worse in the triceps and worse in the holes in the quads. As a bonus Ramy's calves look atrophied too. These guys think we are blind.
It's hilarious Dennis Automatically goes on the defense without anyone saying anything to him. He called Himself out.
When Ramy looked excellent and being tipped the front runner to win Dennis was saying how Ramy was looking insane and even showing photos on his mobile on podcasts.
THEN when things went wrong and Ramy got 5th he sort of steered away from the sinking ship so to speak and said that he does not know what happened since its the coach who is in control of things. Just like he was bluffing with Ramys check-in pics he should have included himself in the downfall.
Had Ramy won, Dennis have acted that the ‘RAMY-NICHOLLS-DENNIS squad’ had once again won the Olympia, like he had done during the past two years. Yes, of course the coach is the one in control in the final stage but you still have to include yourself and not brush off the responsibility because if Ramy had won, he would have said he was part of the successful team. So if you lose you are part of the losing team too.
Gents great podcast. Dennis you still a ledgend bud....
Great Show Gentlemen!!!!
Dennis James is straight up delusional.
Dennis "At the end of the day" James
Dennis "I don't know"James
Dennis "The Denial" James
No one is talking about what potentially really screwed many of the competitors and that's the ridiculous time the event took place. If the event Pre-Judge was at 9 am for Open on Friday and Finals Saturday at 6 PM it would have been one of the craziest battles ever happened.
Steve already said on Olympia tv podcast that all the issues you guys mentioned was the issue, had nothing to do with being flat..
Just crazy that you all of a sudden don’t know what’s up after being with ramy the whole prep.
Come on guys Samson is 37 years old he's not going to all of a sudden develop a Lee Haney back! He's got a great physique just needs to continually refine now Reagan Grimes on the other hand has that back potential can't wait to see what he brings in another year!
He definitely will get better for next year I mean ronnie was 35 when he won his first O! Don't say Andrew wins the O next year but who knows he is looking crazy everybody said that in real life he doesn't look even human iain said backstage this dude looked like something out of this world and everybody else looked like they no even working out like absolute amateurs! When dude brings his back up a bit and gets conditioned he is a contender for that title.
I think no one wants to openly say what was the biggest problem with Big Ramy.....his waist became wider and this disturbed his symmetry and overall impression. the hollows on the legs and the lack of the lower third of the back certainly didn't help, but that was already known, only now it's even more pronounced than before. Also, the hands somehow got lost , got smaller in his overall physiognomy. Both of them, Hadi and Derek, came with very good definition and both are very symmetrically built, so Ramy's wider waist hurt his otherwise "fragile symmetry" all the more.
Dennis is Back pedaling like a modothofoka when someone ask him about ramy bad injections 💉 🤣
Straight up, Ramy didn't deserve it last year, and it was questionable the year before that. Believe me, I was ecstatic that he won in 2020, but it was questionable. The dude got a gift as he was on the decline. You gotta look at him with fresh eyes, like he's a new competitor, every year - don't compare him to previous versions of himself. What we're seeing now is judge's remorse. They know he got a gift two years in a row, and they're sending a strong message about their newer, higher standards.
2021 may be questionable, but he for sure deserved it in 2020
Jay calling someone boxy, is funny as F!!!!K Samson will be Mr O next year or two !!
The On Stage show timing for Open Guys was way too late at night.. that is why so many got on stage 'flat'.
Congratulations 🎊 to NICK WALKER on Winning the People’s Champion Award 🥇 and I feel he with his strong mindset will be back to Win the next Olympia 23
He didn't win the Olympia dropick dopsang, suck it up!!!
No olympia for him
He lost buddy. I thought you were good at predictions?
@@Beastmode42 Dropkick dicksang is in denial- all he did was comment for a year straight about how Nick would win the Olympia and here we are loool
People can’t read here.. the commenter said he won the people’s champ award and he’ll be back to win Mr. Olympia in 2023 next year..
Sorry I don’t know why everyone is so in love with Brandeo. He’s good but I agree Milos the dude honestly needs 15-20 lbs of muscle. He looked like a little guy near the top guys. I’m all set with him.
I like DJ but you come off bad here, lots of content for trigili
Chris toward the end is fucking hilarious 😂
it's always very funny to watch how everyone comes up with all these excuses after the competition to explain why they didn't do well hahaha just tell the truth, you all didn't do well enough, period!!!!
Ramy situation... When you win everyone want be around a champion, when you fall you alone... Such a fake person DJ
Milos shouldn’t tell Samson to do the Arnold that’s a very stupid decision he just finished a harsh 4 month diet and the Arnold is in 3 months. Samson has so much potential it would be far better if he takes time off build some more tissue to get a higher place at the O next year
Disagree!!! Take the momentum to the Arnold.
Samson needs to keep getting conditioned so doing the Arnold will push him further to his goal. Once he gets there it will be easier for him to reach that condition again or get close to it.
Oh yeah...please tell us what we should do...
You know better. 🤡
It is 200K prize money to a winner and a prestigious title. Duhhhh🙄
Before Olympia Samson already had his mind set to do it...and of course - I support him.
When I started with Samson - he suppose to do only 2 shows....and I told him he should do all 6 about a year ago...plus 3 this year...
If you live in the World where you can work 2-3 days per week and miss the other days if you wish - all the power to you.
His job is: TO COMPETE and make a living doing it.
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage , get some rest dude!!! Know your sick. But gotta love your passion for the sport. Surprised i never got a chance to meet you back in the day
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage 😂 you crack me up sometimes man and I 100% agree with you
Dennis, Steve DID explain exactly what was wrong with Ramy on Olympia TV this week. Go and watch the show.
When Jose Raymond pushed back when Milos said Samson looked better than Nick, I knew Milos would find a way to bring the topic up again lol
Hes literally a nicks hater its sad to listen him… someone should just tell him that no one cares about his samsons shape if he looks like on off season mini cut
🤔...if I express my opinion....and actually someone gets offended - I shouldn't bring back the topic and discuss it in more detail?
I asked the question....and Jose answered instantly...
Listen to it again.
BTW - I love Jose and how objective and knowledgeable he really is. ❤🙌🏻
@@Ziaurelijus - I literally love Nick. And admire him a great deal.
I just pointed out one thing (that should be obvious to everyone 🤫). Who's physique is better.
But, there are many things that come in play when you judge the show...and his better conditioning obviously played a major role...but the point I was trying to make is still there. 😉
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage of course you're allowed to bring up the topic again. I'm just surprised that you didn't also take the opportunity to bring up how overrated academic fitness studies are while George was on the podcast lol
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage sorry Milos but conditioning should count for something, and Samson had comparable conditioning to Brandon
The so called gurus were all wrong.I was correct:- I told that Hadi and NICK WALKER would do good and come strong at the Olympia 🥇💪
Stop lying you didn’t.. what a load of crap you are.
Especially those who didn't have Nick in the top 6 what inattentional blindness
You claimed Nick would win lol
George Farah's intro was to also excuse himself on Blessing and Andrew conditioning after promising a lot haha
10:35 I laughed my as off and must have replayed 15 times just to see everyone’s reactions ! Dennis ! George ! and Chris pointing at himself , like I said that ? That was the best ! Thank you guys and thank you Dennis, you made my Christmas!
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@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage Milos I will meet you someday and from the time I competed in the NPC and on through your career and coaching you were an inspiration to me. You may not have placed high in the mass monster era , but your physique was the one me and many others were striving for ! Wishing you health and success in the coming new year . I will meet you soon hopefully, really love your input !
I still don't get it why Derek placed second with soft chest Arms abs and skinny quads? this is a strong indication that Hadi is not getting it next year they will give it to the baby muscles Derek, just to shut the fans and critics they gave it to Hadi this year.
It's obvious they wanted Derek to win but would look weird if he won it the first time so they gave it to Hadi. Just look at how much the IFBB brass is promoting Derek even more than Hadi.
Yes he's still soft as baby shite, arms pecs, abs, great bdb but conditioning very sub par
Milos: Hope you are recovering from COVID well. Your video of posing instruction with Flex Wheeler to help Andrew was super educational. Thank you for all you do 🙏
thx
@@MilosSarcevOfficialRUclipsPage Most welcome!
Funny how everyone's loving nick now, not long back the show with Chad they were all saying Nick won't make top 6 lol.
I actually had Lundsford in 4th in my pre Olympia prediction based on his shape. He actually blew my mind when he walked out more than any other athlete did..I don't think that baby muscle is going to change on Derek. His frame and muscle shape is phenomenal, but I don't see that changing that hardness of his pecs. That was always an issue with Jay Cutler. He always had that lack of hardness look through his chest and outer biceps. It just has a doughy look like it grew too fast!
I think the more he competes it will harden up especially working with hady in the upcoming years, he’s only 29 and he put on over 20 lbs of muscle in one season. If he puts on 3-5 more lbs especially in the legs and focuses on detail he will win in my opinion
Could be a muscle maturity thing or it could be what the commenter is saying. Time will tell.
Dennis is saying Ramy had the same flaws as he did in the previous 2 years. But he's avoiding the fact that Ramy looked worse this year.
Yes. Steven straight up said that the regression of lower back and triceps hurt Ramy. Steve is a straight shooter. Even in 2018 he openly said that Phil lost because of his stomach distention.
Ramy is still a 2 time Mr O who at his best could stand with any of the greatest. Sure he may not beat Ronnie's, Dorian's or Phil's best but he wouldn't be crushed.
Dennis has some splaining to doooooo
Derek's the future! ... Dennis knows Ramy's never ever winning again .
I like Ramy however previous shows Dennis was soooo confident that Rami is in first place 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I hope he learned his lesson 😂😂😂😂. I hope Dennis has his humble pie now and stop becoming overconfident on his boy Rami 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There was a moment during Friday night's show during Prejudging that we saw Big Ramy just give up.
Dennis didn’t leave the hotel… Dennis is the one who y’all should be blaming
Andrew Jack is the new incoming face of Mr Olympia champion 🏆 2023
No
I'm with you Dennis. All of said Ramy is going to win even tho flaws was already there but I think those flaws was much worse when he got tightened up. Didn't you hear Steve already told what was wrong with Ramy? He told back was gone, triceps were gone, etc. and also condition didn't satisfy them so I'm sorry my friend; Ramys career is pretty much over.
Big love everyone. Merry Christmas, kindest regards, Richard U.K
Merry Christmas 🙏
@@Chaitanyaworld2692 All the best buddy
Two show tiers for pros
Tier 2 show winners have a till the end of the following colander year where they can compete at tier 1 shows
(If you win in say March 2023 you have until the end of 2024 to compete in a tier 1 show)
Tier 1 show winners qualify for the Olympia and you stay qualified for tier 1 shows until the end of the following calendar year
Only top 3 at the Olympia re-qualify
Pro shows can have tier 1 & 2 line ups at same show
If Iain and Brandon had changed coaches between each other both would've placed waaaayyyy better.
Iain looked overcooked, flat, dieted to death, shaky and his posing was as usual not good. Brandon was huge but he looked 4 weeks out at best.
Honestly a they both could've placed as well as they have in the past that being 7th and 1st if they didn't go to one extreme too far.
Keep putting guys like Hadi and Derek in front of guys like Samson,Krizo and Andrew, and the IFBB will file for bankruptcy.
New drinking game. Everytime DJ says "at the end of the day"...take a shot. you'll be loaded in 10 minutes
lol. He says that way too often.
Chris and Milos were soo fine
To be fair to George, I saw a lot of post of people who met Andrew Jacked who said he was sick and still signing autographs.
Superb guys, great watch , thank you 👍
Salty Dennis, own it man, this is the world you’re in
Good man Dennis. You and George are so right. Don't listen to the big mouths on the sidelines who don't have the confidence to go onto the playing field but the confidence to make judgments on those who play the game.
Oh My God DJ was hit in the head, he has some nerves, but no spine, if it's not man enough to recognize and assume a part of the failure. It is responsible especially because he was the one that created so much hype about Ramy's best shape ever before Olympia. And now comes with this attitude. The people from the industry that are close to him should make him aware about this. And it is only fair to assume a part of the failure, not only the success. At least a true man does like this.
49:17 for Andrew Jacked discussion
Chemical warfare Triceps melting
IMO Hadi strangely went from fake delts made in Taiwan to no delts at all.