I love this scene, I wish they'd kept it in the film. I particularly like Ash's line about how the Alien might even be better off with no oxygen around if they vent the ship. Too bad it got cut.
THIS RIDLY SHOULD LEAVE THE WHOLE MOVIE COMPLETE ! THAT WOULD'VE BEEN P E R F E C T ! HE HAD GOLD IN HIS HANDS IN THIS FRANCHISE ! LUV THE MOVIE EVEN THOUGH .
while i was so scared by this film i didnt notice how Nostromo interiors were so nice... i notices only the darkness, the feeling of claustrophobia, water coming down, labirynths...
I don't know about any of you all, but I can definitely get the sense of tension, desperation, and people fed up with other's suggestion. I want to say this could have been left in there. It's absolutely fascinating: it's no nonsense.
The dialogue in this scene has a very loose kind of improvisational feel to it. Like they have a solid out line of who is going to say what when, and they're being allowed to just improvise the words. I remember reading an article way back in the day when this movie was still in production, or just about to be released (Starlog, I think it was) and there was talk about how the actors were coming up with dialogue on their own because the script was so atrocious or lacking in any depth or personality for the characters. Parker's comment about finishing his coffee because it's the only thing good on the ship is a perfect example of the actors writing a lot of their own dialog. In fact I think most of their banter in scenes involving most of the cast were largely improvised and then rehearsed into a finished scene. This scene actually feels like a rehearsal of improvised dialogue.
Dan O'Bannon can write a story but writing naturally sounding dialogue for a screen play is an art. His characters were written very stiff and by the book with no personality like Dave Bowman and Frank Pool of 2001: A Space Odyssey. Ronald Schusett was brought in to spice it up a little but was inexperienced and didnt really understand O'Bannon's vision for the film. Ridley Scott thought they were both idiots and knew the dialogue was shit and that's why he allowed his actors to take such liberties. Even going so far as improvising entire scenes of dialogue.
I don’t know how Dallas has got the audacity to criticise Parker and Brett after he pulled rank on Ripley and contaminated the ship. He risked all seven lives to save one. That has to be the least captainy decision, ever! Ripley, Parker, Brett and Jonesy should have taken the shuttle immediately and let Dallas, Lambert and Ash live with their decision to let the alien on board. They treated Parker and Brett like they were beneath them, but when push came to shove, they were the most sensible. Parker was strong-minded, tough, decent, protected his colleagues when in danger, he saved Ripley from Ash and was man enough to admit he was scared. He was the best crew member and deserved a lot more respect than he got. Team Parker all the way for me.
I hate Hollywood dysfunctional childish argument scenes. They literally never depict mature logical focused adults sharing expertise in order to come to the best solution available to them quickly.
I just got very lucky a couple of days ago, I checked out a local bookstore and happened upon Alan Dean Foster's novelization of 'Alien'. I must say, when comparing the book to movie, I think Foster may have been working with earlier drafts which accounts for dialogue said by other characters in addition to the issue of dialogue there's a lot of it that is too much and action sequences that are curiously absent from the movie. Interesting to read but the movie version is preferable.
I know this comment is old, but there was an unfilmed scene in which the xenomorph was injured by the air lock door closing, causing it to start bleeding on the ship, which begins loosing pressure somewhat.
I think Ridley was concerned that it just diluted the whole film dwn abit too much, that he wanted to keep a steady pace with the tension and suspense.
In-terms of this scene just more that we can get an Idea of what the characters more or less plan to do about the situation in just shorter more tighter scene. I mean we have to remember this was actually intended as just a B-movie creature feature, so the tactics implied would have to set up the flow of the movie to rely alot on the characters. We all know it was essentially a guy in a suit, he didnt do alot, but the make-up design of that creature spoke for its self, and the way it was shot.
No, (sort of). In the Directors Cut DVD there is another version of this 'deleted' scene which is 'remarkably' close to this scene. The dialogue is essentially the same.
where was it determined that the larger creature had acid for blood? lambert was only guessing, cameron cant pick and choose what deleted scenes he wants to follow
Of the deleted scenes this one was clearly one that was the least needed. It treat the audience like idiots and explains what they are up to next. Then again today we have some movies in which some annoying sidekick explains everything to the audience who clearly can't draw their own conclusions today.
I guess what Im saying then is really, yes I think it was more about talking bout it. You want to see the creature, and what exactly it will do, but for the most part, you're really following these characters, you do care about all of them, becus they do play it so real, they do feel like just average workers that have been doing a job, coming to the end of their (years long) shift and just want to get home. They carry the whole movie, not so much the Alien, even tho Alien in question is main.
Ridley Scott also cut the other airlock scene where Parker goes to refuel the flamethrowers and he spots the alien loitering in the airlock (You probably know of this, but just in case.) On his way back he spots the alien loitering in the airlock room, it’s fascinated by a green flashing light, Parker whispers to Ripley and Lambert through the speaker system to lock it in and blow it into space. Ash who is listening in on this plan sabotages the plan by raising the klaxon and scaring the alien out of the airlock room. The alien loses its arm after the door closes on it, but manages to rip itself free and runs towards Parker but not noticing him, it almost knocks Parker out as it barges past him in anger and pain. The airlock opens and depressurises the ship. This scene was right before Ripley goes to check mother for answers and learns of special order 937. She became super suspicious of Ash when he sounded the alarm unnecessarily, this is why she had a nosebleed in that scene, because of the airlock opening and the ship depressurisation.
Is it known why this was cut? It's a great scene. Were there no tight shots of the scene? There are problems with this if it's the only angle because Lambert is mostly not visible and it's a very long take without cuts compared to the rest of the movie.
@dtmbcorp This is the only horror film I actually cried to and ran into my moms room. Even now, it still scares me quite a bit. This is why Ridley should direct. Even the second one scared me a lil bit thought it was a bit more actiony
The cat, Jonesy (a personal fav name of mine) never got enough lines in this movie. Was also LAST in the list of credits. Shame. Brett's chasing that little fucker around in the afterlife. Who took care of it, whe she left it on Gateway Station? Call the PETA.
why wouldn't it? that's why they dont just shoot it in the movie, it will burn through the hull, thats the whole point of the vents part, did you even watch the film? i really dont think Cameron gave them acid blood because of this deleted scene
I just got very lucky a couple of days ago, I checked out a local bookstore and happened upon Alan Dean Foster's novelization of 'Alien'. I must say, when comparing the book to movie, I think Foster may have been working with earlier drafts which accounts for dialogue said by other characters in addition to the issue of dialogue there's a lot of it that is too much and action sequences that are curiously absent from the movie. Interesting to read but the movie version is preferable.
Old post, but that is exactly what happened. Foster was hired and they gave him the initial shooting script - which is why there were scenes in the book that never made it to the movie, or were even filmed (such as the alien eating and trashing their food supply). They updated the shooting script after Foster got to work on it and he had already been about half way through. Rather than rewriting the whole thing, they let him continue on. It was a surprisingly well written book for a novelization of a movie. That being said, I'm biased. I've enjoyed Alan Dean Foster's work since I was a kid.
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I love that background industrial sound, like a giant press or furnace churning something.
I like the way Brett steps out of Parkers shadow and asks "What is it Mr. Ash?..."
I love this scene, I wish they'd kept it in the film. I particularly like Ash's line about how the Alien might even be better off with no oxygen around if they vent the ship. Too bad it got cut.
This scene had virtually all of Brett's dialogue in the entire script 😀😀😀
And finally its not about getting "full shares."
right
@@MisterLumpkin beat me to it champion
THIS RIDLY SHOULD LEAVE THE WHOLE MOVIE COMPLETE ! THAT WOULD'VE BEEN P E R F E C T ! HE HAD GOLD IN HIS HANDS IN THIS FRANCHISE ! LUV THE MOVIE EVEN THOUGH .
"20 minutes to an hour. More like two or three with them."
"Right."
ROTFL! Classic. What tension and humor. They should have kept that scene.
while i was so scared by this film i didnt notice how Nostromo interiors were so nice... i notices only the darkness, the feeling of claustrophobia, water coming down, labirynths...
one of the best sci fi movies ever made. classic
Most of the deleted scenes for this film add nothing, but this one adds to many of the characters and should have been retained in the final film.
Poor Parker never got his full share.
That's a very long, single take. I'd like to see a version of Alien which includes every deleted scene.
I don't know about any of you all, but I can definitely get the sense of tension, desperation, and people fed up with other's suggestion. I want to say this could have been left in there. It's absolutely fascinating: it's no nonsense.
I've always wondered if Lambert & Parker had a thing. Seems like they did.
The dialogue in this scene has a very loose kind of improvisational feel to it. Like they have a solid out line of who is going to say what when, and they're being allowed to just improvise the words.
I remember reading an article way back in the day when this movie was still in production, or just about to be released (Starlog, I think it was) and there was talk about how the actors were coming up with dialogue on their own because the script was so atrocious or lacking in any depth or personality for the characters. Parker's comment about finishing his coffee because it's the only thing good on the ship is a perfect example of the actors writing a lot of their own dialog. In fact I think most of their banter in scenes involving most of the cast were largely improvised and then rehearsed into a finished scene.
This scene actually feels like a rehearsal of improvised dialogue.
Dan O'Bannon can write a story but writing naturally sounding dialogue for a screen play is an art. His characters were written very stiff and by the book with no personality like Dave Bowman and Frank Pool of 2001: A Space Odyssey. Ronald Schusett was brought in to spice it up a little but was inexperienced and didnt really understand O'Bannon's vision for the film. Ridley Scott thought they were both idiots and knew the dialogue was shit and that's why he allowed his actors to take such liberties. Even going so far as improvising entire scenes of dialogue.
George Lucas was also awful at dialogue
I don’t know how Dallas has got the audacity to criticise Parker and Brett after he pulled rank on Ripley and contaminated the ship. He risked all seven lives to save one. That has to be the least captainy decision, ever! Ripley, Parker, Brett and Jonesy should have taken the shuttle immediately and let Dallas, Lambert and Ash live with their decision to let the alien on board.
They treated Parker and Brett like they were beneath them, but when push came to shove, they were the most sensible. Parker was strong-minded, tough, decent, protected his colleagues when in danger, he saved Ripley from Ash and was man enough to admit he was scared. He was the best crew member and deserved a lot more respect than he got. Team Parker all the way for me.
Parker is my favorite character. Yaphet Kotto was the best actor in the cast.
I hate Hollywood dysfunctional childish argument scenes. They literally never depict mature logical focused adults sharing expertise in order to come to the best solution available to them quickly.
best science fiction ever,still a very good movie!!
I just got very lucky a couple of days ago, I checked out a local bookstore and happened upon Alan Dean Foster's novelization of 'Alien'. I must say, when comparing the book to movie, I think Foster may have been working with earlier drafts which accounts for dialogue said by other characters in addition to the issue of dialogue there's a lot of it that is too much and action sequences that are curiously absent from the movie. Interesting to read but the movie version is preferable.
I know this comment is old, but there was an unfilmed scene in which the xenomorph was injured by the air lock door closing, causing it to start bleeding on the ship, which begins loosing pressure somewhat.
I think Ridley was concerned that it just diluted the whole film dwn abit too much, that he wanted to keep a steady pace with the tension and suspense.
In-terms of this scene just more that we can get an Idea of what the characters more or less plan to do about the situation in just shorter more tighter scene. I mean we have to remember this was actually intended as just a B-movie creature feature, so the tactics implied would have to set up the flow of the movie to rely alot on the characters. We all know it was essentially a guy in a suit, he didnt do alot, but the make-up design of that creature spoke for its self, and the way it was shot.
I love that super 70s architecture.
No, (sort of). In the Directors Cut DVD there is another version of this 'deleted' scene which is 'remarkably' close to this scene. The dialogue is essentially the same.
20 mins to an hour is long enough for an alien to full grow.
Yes I think it is, they knew the script and had the overall story layed out, but they improvised alot of scenes in the movie.
At the very end... after Brett and Parker leave... did Ash just make an actual joke?!?
Right
Lol @Ash's ''right''. Perfect imitation of Brett.
Great scene, needed to mix it up a little more with another angle or two though.
Ninth passenger. There were seven humans and the cat.
The title of this film in many languages were The 8. Passenger. Probably since Alien is a difficult word to translate.😊
This scene was a great idea, a little re-writting woulda been PERFECT.
where was it determined that the larger creature had acid for blood? lambert was only guessing, cameron cant pick and choose what deleted scenes he wants to follow
Nothing from this film should have been deleted
This is much better than the alternate used in the fanedit virtual print version.
Of the deleted scenes this one was clearly one that was the least needed. It treat the audience like idiots and explains what they are up to next. Then again today we have some movies in which some annoying sidekick explains everything to the audience who clearly can't draw their own conclusions today.
HBO is showing this month with some of the deleted scenes....
@egg64 I noticed that. Harry Dean Stanton did a great job in this scene.
I guess what Im saying then is really, yes I think it was more about talking bout it. You want to see the creature, and what exactly it will do, but for the most part, you're really following these characters, you do care about all of them, becus they do play it so real, they do feel like just average workers that have been doing a job, coming to the end of their (years long) shift and just want to get home. They carry the whole movie, not so much the Alien, even tho Alien in question is main.
i like this scene.. it kind of implies that this is where ripley gets the idea to blow it out the airlock to save her life at the end
Ridley Scott also cut the other airlock scene where Parker goes to refuel the flamethrowers and he spots the alien loitering in the airlock (You probably know of this, but just in case.) On his way back he spots the alien loitering in the airlock room, it’s fascinated by a green flashing light, Parker whispers to Ripley and Lambert through the speaker system to lock it in and blow it into space. Ash who is listening in on this plan sabotages the plan by raising the klaxon and scaring the alien out of the airlock room. The alien loses its arm after the door closes on it, but manages to rip itself free and runs towards Parker but not noticing him, it almost knocks Parker out as it barges past him in anger and pain. The airlock opens and depressurises the ship. This scene was right before Ripley goes to check mother for answers and learns of special order 937. She became super suspicious of Ash when he sounded the alarm unnecessarily, this is why she had a nosebleed in that scene, because of the airlock opening and the ship depressurisation.
Why do I have the feeling that both of those lines were unscripted? :)
Is it known why this was cut? It's a great scene. Were there no tight shots of the scene? There are problems with this if it's the only angle because Lambert is mostly not visible and it's a very long take without cuts compared to the rest of the movie.
Maybe, this should have been kept if the only reason is for time. I'm fed up with that reasoning.
Which CD set has the entire movie with the deleted scenes reinserted where they should go?
WHY WERE THESE SCENES DELETED!?
From the Dan O'Bannon book.
Parker: "FUCK!"
@dtmbcorp This is the only horror film I actually cried to and ran into my moms room. Even now, it still scares me quite a bit. This is why Ridley should direct. Even the second one scared me a lil bit thought it was a bit more actiony
by that, do u mean that it's making the film more about talking about the alien, than witnessing it?
The cat, Jonesy (a personal fav name of mine) never got enough lines in this movie. Was also LAST in the list of credits. Shame. Brett's chasing that little fucker around in the afterlife. Who took care of it, whe she left it on Gateway Station? Call the PETA.
Eighth passenger...eighth passenger...But weren't their only seven crew memebers?...Oh wait..right. >XP
Thats the dutch title of the film right there.
why wouldn't it? that's why they dont just shoot it in the movie, it will burn through the hull, thats the whole point of the vents part, did you even watch the film? i really dont think Cameron gave them acid blood because of this deleted scene
A fine example that all improve is not good. No brainer not to include this scene.
@TypicalJAFO and it allows for noticeable "grow time" for the alien.
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I just got very lucky a couple of days ago, I checked out a local bookstore and happened upon Alan Dean Foster's novelization of 'Alien'. I must say, when comparing the book to movie, I think Foster may have been working with earlier drafts which accounts for dialogue said by other characters in addition to the issue of dialogue there's a lot of it that is too much and action sequences that are curiously absent from the movie. Interesting to read but the movie version is preferable.
Old post, but that is exactly what happened. Foster was hired and they gave him the initial shooting script - which is why there were scenes in the book that never made it to the movie, or were even filmed (such as the alien eating and trashing their food supply). They updated the shooting script after Foster got to work on it and he had already been about half way through. Rather than rewriting the whole thing, they let him continue on.
It was a surprisingly well written book for a novelization of a movie. That being said, I'm biased. I've enjoyed Alan Dean Foster's work since I was a kid.
@@ExcentricDragon I'm a huge fan of ADF particularly of the Flinx and Pip series.