Man I hate when Brou refers to NBA players as “garbage” and “fodder.” There has to be a non-disrespectful way to refer to people who are fighting for roster spots.
@@Yuan-lo3zz spoelstra is prob already a top 5 head coach of all time. Guys like that far outweigh superstars players. Pat Riley Phil jackson popovich are the comparable names to Spoelstras trajectory. Those guys can win through multiple regimes. A Jordan needs those guys just as much as those guys need a superstar. I thought we proved the importance of coaching this post season already. It’s not even up for discussion. The culture, identity and entire makeup of my team is derived from the front office - of which a MAJOR component of is the head coach.
The problem is Portland is set on guards and that’s the basis of Miami’s trade package pretty much . I wouldn’t be surprised if this goes all the way into the upcoming season before a trade is made.
@@SSJRome No it wouldn’t be smart for Miami to give their best offer rn if NOBODY else has even made another offer. Every major trade for the past 5 players has taken over 2 months to complete. It hasn’t even been 2 weeks yet. Relax and enjoy your summer lol
I will break this down very simply as i havent seen anyone in the comment section mention this HE ONLY WANTS MIAMI BECAUSE OF THE TAX RATE so dont feel sorry for him hes on a supermax and just signed a 2yr extension last year for 120ms when he will be 35 n 36 gtfoh
Dame has absolutely zero leverage here. He lost all of it when he signed that 2/120m extension when there was no need to. Portland should only send him to Miami if Riley gives them everything they want
@@cyberftNo, he actually has the same leverage Ben Simmons did on the 76ers, maybe less. Long contract with a team who doesn’t really care if he plays or not. Portlands only incentive is to maximize what they get for him. That’s it. He’s not going anywhere. This looks like a trade deadline type deal when either Miami ups the offer when they’re below .500 or Dame adds more teams to his list.
the Suns overpaid to trade for KD. just because a team overpays for a player doesn't mean that needs to be the standard in a trade or signing lol. the difference is the new owner of the Suns is eager to make a splash so he's a bit reckless... Riley is not
Loyalty means nothing at the end of the day. It shouldn’t be this difficult for him. 🤦🏾♂️ I hope all the other players learn to do for self and bump all that loyalty mess. One team days are over!
Damian Lillard has said it from his mouth. He said he would want to go to Miami or Brooklyn. This means that Portland choosing to go against that would be a true showing. Dame has been truly loyal to the trailblazers as a team and to the community. To be honest they are being greedy thinking not to accept an even Tyler Herro - Damian Lillard trade. They've already drafted a player that long term looks like their future at the PG position.
They are acting like they can't just pick up herro then trade him. A 20 ppg player with a decent contract, plenty of teams would trade for herro. & logically it makes sense if they are just trying to rebuild. This is just the blazers being greedy
@@eddyg1960so the blazers still take the risk of having to trade Herro and maybe not getting what they want. Just do it right the first time and let Dame drown in his cash.
Yeah, first and foremost, any trade for Dame will always include Jalen Brown. Boston hasn't signed Jalen Brown to a new contract. Should they sign Jalen, then they can't trade him for a year. Only option is sign and trade but I heard there are complications about that?
Facts 💯 but Portland wants something of value and Dame doesn't have a no trade clause so it's basically Portland advantage. Boston is also in the mix. Dame better hope he goes to a playoff team
@@shouryasangam7956because from a business aspect, their loyal stars exit will determine if another superstar will ever go there voluntarily in the future...think of Minnesota with Kevin Garnett
I would like the NBA to find a way to dissuade these trade requests… frustrating seeing players signing massive contracts with teams and then asking to leave. If you didn’t want to be there shouldn’t of signed the extension with them.
I agree that it's frustrating, but I also get the other side of it. Teams break guys' hearts all the time by trading them away when they want to stay, and they have no say in the matter.
Kind of like when Marcus Smart signed an extension with the Celtics and days before trading him they tell him he's not going anywhere and now he plays for Memphis. Funny because fans only expect this kind of loyalty from players. Teams can trade players all over the league and y'all have no problem with it
@@stylezblack314You know no trade clauses exist for a reason right? If you’re a player worth your salt, you’d add that in your deal or go play for a team that’s willing to be reasonable at the table.
@@Haddonfield63 Portland can just sit Dame and tank. They are in rebuild mode and Dame is leaving his prime. They have all their future picks except for 2024. Portland does not have to deal if Dame keeps being a diva while Miami cannot make any meaningful acquisitions until Dame's deal is done. Key pieces in the playoffs last year have already walked since Miami cannot spend at the moment waiting for Dame.
The way nick put the Curry Dame idea, it would be really interesting because then you have all of the other top teams extremely reliable on big men. So you run into the two opposites, extreme shooting vs extreme paint play. It would be entertaining for sure
If Dame really wanted to play for a contender then he shouldnt have signed a huge contract with the blazers. Now other teams will have to give up a lot to acquire him. Iust like what the nets did to acquire thiers stars. And mavs did, and now the suns. No more depth in those teams.
This I really Wish these Players would stop signing Extensions and new Contracts with Teams they know they don't want to stay with (yes I know it's because the drafting team can Always max them out on years and money ). I think the fix would be is if you ask for a Trade in anything but your Last year of the contract then you have to give back the difference between your Bird Right max and What the new team could have paid you.
@zacht2806 I get it I do but money today or legacy later they need to make n their choice and live with it not time two teams trying to have your cake n and eat it too
Then why wouldn't he add a couple other contender teams to his list? If winning a title is all that matters. Clearly that's not his first priority. Why wouldn't he mention Boston, philly, minnesota....or some other playoff team that would take a big leap with a superstar PG?
This was hilarious. They literally had no legitimate rebuttal for Nick Wright's points. You can't hustle a hustler like Pat Riley without help and the media is trying to help Portland. Good luck with that
Portland doesn’t have to trade him. If Miami can’t get more teams involved and put together a deal Portland likes then they absolutely should just hold on to Dame for now.
Hold on to him for what? The man will be 33 in less than 2 weeks, he won't get better but get worse as he get older. If you can honestly say we have a chance of doing some damage in the playoffs and making a championship run then I would say yes keep him but ask your self this, even with Dame right now are they better than Denver? Lakers? Memphis? Dallas? Kings? GSW? Clippers? Suns? Thunder? Wolves? I just named 10 teams that are better than them even with Dame so unless you want to waste a year just to compete to have a chance to play in the play in game then they need to get SOMETHING for him rather than waste years and then his value just goes down next year because he will be a year older.
They can get multiple teams involved they can offer 2 1st possibly 3 move hero for a 1st and martin for a 1st thats 5 1sts or 4 and a pick swap but none of them will be lottery picks and that’s not good enough if you ask Portland
I don't understand what's so bad about the Heat trade. Portland is not in contention. They're in rebuild mode, so what's so bad about what Miami is offering?
Dame has one last chip… “I’ve made a lot of money, I don’t plan to play for more then one more organization before I retire. I was hopeful after all I gave Portland they would make a comparable trade that Donovan Mitchell received last summer and they would respect my wishes and accept a trade with Miami. I am prepared to sit out for a year if the Blazers are unable to make this happen.” - trade done
The problem with your plan is I don’t think Portland cares if he plays or not. Theyre not trying to compete now, they’re trying to compete 5 years from now and the best way to do that is to a) not have a top 15 player playing major minutes winning games and b) get as much in trade for that top 15 player as possible.
Y’all gotta realize bro the league is catching on to Poole play style he ant bout to be doing all he was doing on the warriors like y’all think he going to do for the wizards but the warriors should’ve traded him to Portland for lillard if they could’ve
I listened to Chris diss Miami undrafted players all playoffs but now he on here saying Heat are a super team😂😂😂 Out with the old and in with the new is all i got to say
Keeping Dame is not beneficial for the blazers. They're trying to get more playing time for their young guards, and they'd rather be bad next year. Even if they traded Dame for close to nothing it's good for them. That contract is terrible for a bad team
Frankly i do not care about what Dame wants in terms of destination . I cut some slack for the history and loyalty argument but at the end of the day the fan base , season ticket holders etc. deserve to see the Team get the best package they can . Miami does not get to play the role of the Suns in this instance . Miami needs to come up with a better package even if it involves a few other teams. NOTE- not a Blazer or Heat fan nor hater.
@xcwilliams7980 they are going to be bad regardless so there is no rush. I wouldn't want him around for training camp but Portland should continue to be patient.
At this point I’m just sick of hearing about it. I love Dame, great player, generational talent and he’s an alumni to the same college as myself but I’m sick of the smoke screens.
Sorry to relate this to Jokic, but, it’s just amazing that these guys love Dame going to an already great team to get a ring. Go to Miami, a team with four players who have been all stars. Go to GS and play with four players who have been all stars. But they hate Jokic, or at least Nick does, who just won a ring with ZERO players who have ever been all stars. It’s a weird blind spot for these guys.
As a Portland fan. If I'm the Blazers I'd just still trade him to any respectable destination or just keep Dame. I'm not going for that "it can ONLY be Miami bs", especially if Miami's offer isn't good enough. Blazers will take Herro and 4-5 1st rd picks and 2 2nd rd picks. Or just Bam and a single 1st rd pick. Also, Blazers shouldn't be willing to take back any longterm salary besides Bam or Herro. And, I like Herro, but I can imagine the Blazers would not be thrilled to get him not because of his talent either, he's just a redundancy for the Blazers. Only reason Blazers are considering trading Dame is because now we definitely have too many starting caliber guards. Right now Blazers have 2 guards a PG and SG we see as starting caliber to build a future around, AND we have Dame and Simmons who are starters easily starters that can both easily average 20ppg as the main or even secondary scoring option. Replacing Dame with Herro just doesn't solve the too many starting guards caliber problem. Simmons and Herro are about the same in talent level. To ask one of them to go from a starting role to a bench role for Scoot Henderson probably won't be an ideal situation for them. When they'd be eithe the best player or second best player on like 15-20 other teams. They also both make starter monet. And having Scoot come off the bench is a waste of time if they decide to trade Dame.
@@manz7860 Clearly wasn't talking to you. If you have ZERO interest in where he goes. There was literally no reason for your comment. Like why are you even here lol???🤔 Edit: Are you that lame lol????😅
Nick: it’s the only offer. Wilds: it’s not a good offer. That’s the entire conversation on this. Portland has all the leverage. There’s no good reason for them to trade Dame to Miami right now.
No they don’t. The Celtics are already out on him because of what he’s done. That’s his leverage. He doesn’t have to play for teams and there goes their assets.
@@chasingfelix3609and to add to that, they don’t want dame playing with scoot. And it’s not a Bad offer. The blazers are probably tryin to get rid of nurkic too and Miami is like nah we got other plans with that money
Them not wanting dame to play with scoot is pure conjecture. Someone could easily say that it would be a boon for Scoot to play next to/learn from one of the greatest PGs in modern basketball. Dame going to be the bad guy on a 4 year contract? Portland will trade him eventually. They have no reason to send him to Miami for peanuts and -1 Nurk contract.
Yes there is, they want to begin their rebuild with the #3 pick from the draft taking over at the very same position Dame plays. Blazers have a little leverage, and Dame has a bit more.
Dame claims complete loyalty to Portland but will only let them trade to 1 team with not a great trade package. Dames come up short, tired of players coming up short and us appreciate them leaving to go ring chase. Dame right now is everything he strived not to be. Let him go to the defending east champs, maybe some will appreciate the ring chase. Not me, leave in free agency. If you sign a contract, fulfill it, then leave.
@@unmhking what’s the horrible narrative? Couldn’t compete in the last 3-4 years? We’ll 4 years ago he averaged 22 in the semis against a kd/less warriors when Steph averaged 36 on the series. He’s had a shot to go to the finals in Portland and came up short. Yes, for him to average 22 in the west finals and Steph average 36. That’s coming up short. Teams were completly even. Then, he pushed them to make change so they tried to get pieces for CJ, it didn’t work out. The past year nah that wasn’t loyalty. He signed a 60mill/year contract, rehabbed a bunch, and now is only asking to be traded to 1 team with a bad trade package. I wouldn’t care, but dame has dissed so many guys for switching up teams I mean he even made a song track abt Paul George. He went from dont run from the grind, to take the $ then ring chase. Terrible, if he was loyal he’d play out that 60mill/year contract. He just stayed so he could get that, and bail. U can have ur opinion that’s mine
@@unmhking dirk… 🤡. And ur acting like dame isn’t tryna go to the team that was just in the finals. He showin his true roots here, I don’t mind ring chasing. But can’t call yourself loyal doin what he’s doin man
So Dame was afraid of Portland fans being mad at him asking for a trade, but wouldn’t be afraid of other teams’ fans and the sports media ripping him if he sat out? Ridiculous. He’s a professional who will play wherever he’s sent to
The problem is with owners who think like Kevin Wildes is that they let there ego get in the way of things. If a player doesn't want to play for your team anymore than move on from that player. Fools always say well they are paying you all this money but what about all the money that these players are making for the team? If the team was trash then the value of these teams would be trash. Do you think the value went up or down because of DAME? You think the value went up or down for teams that have LBJ, Pat Mahomes, Giannis, Brady, Etc.. fans get mad because they see a player making 200 Million and say well I would play for that but then ignore the fact that the owner of the team just made an extra BILLION because now the value of the team went from from ticket sales, merchandise, etc.. Get what you can get for Dame and move on. I could understand if the team was in title contention and actually had a chance to win but why waste a chance to get at least something for a good player rather than keeping him and they don't do s**t next year when they could get picks/players and start rebuilding to have a chance?
Just trade him. Get a third team involved. Third Team gives up their picks and a little role player or some such and get Herro. Portland gets their picks and role player plus Miami’s picks and some sort of role player…
Why does Dame think that Miami’s lucky season will carry over? They were in the play-in last year man! Making it to the Finals again this season is a pipe dream. Dame might as well stay in Portland if he won’t go to BOS or PHI
Nick can't be more wrong...of course other teams are making offers.. didn't the agent just go around telling people to quit making offers? Or not make offers which suggests to me that other teams are calling
@@stuckNcloudz no they are evaluating n waiting to see what offers are put before them before making a decision....the longer they wait the more teams will up their offer...even if it is Miami it's smart to play them against each other
Dame is in the same spot Aaron Rodgers was after he signed that massive extension a few off-seasons ago. He gave up all his leverage to secure the bag.
@@youreagoddamngenius9099The Jets were the only team that were really in for him so it’s not like he had a choice in where he went. He could have let himself hit free agency and maybe gone to a different team.
I hate how players want to force a trade to their perfect place where the team can't get anything in return. Don't act like Dame did Portland any favors. He took his money. He stayed for the max they could give that others couldn't. Blame the front office, but also blame Dame for not doing anything to get better defensively and all he did was just keep shooting further from the basket. Cool. Here's your L. So play your contract out or take the trade that the team finds best for themselves. Period.
@@beau_sauce_god2676he could’ve left at any time but he’d rather collect his super max and take indirect shots at the front office on social media like a teen girl
@@dontmindme4197 the double standard is ridiculous when you see others like Rockets Harden get destroyed. Dame ALWAYS has a pass. Fact is when Harden no defense videos were going around the internet as comedy, Dame was the routinely the worst defender in the NBA.
Naw it's not about being tough dame has a contract mind you he has 4 yrs left on his contract Portland shouldn't have to take back horrible assets from the heat if the blazers gm don't get back decent assets for dame he will get fired and may not get another job the gm has to do what's best for Portland
I just wish everyone had a better memory … 25 year old franchise player Donovan Mitchell received 3 future first round picks & swaps, a 6”0’ guard coming off a major injury, and a guy that the league gave up on and had already been traded to two teams. If Markkanen didn’t have a breakthrough season this year everyone would have remembered what a trash offer that was last season. How fast folks forget
@@leir2005 Bam isn’t a top 25 player STOP IT!!! If Dame goes to Miami and is their top scorer which is highly likely no one is going to say anything about that move.
Just saying they are already paying Simons less than Herro and his numbers are not much different . Miami is being lazy as they know if they get Dame they have to move Herro. Time for Riley to stop thinking he is in the same position as the Suns and find a third team to take Herro for first rounders.
Nick is crazy. He's pushing this so hard, Portland can just go 'we'll wait as long as we need to'. Like, they're in no rush at all. Nick is ridiculous and a Homer for some orgs making bizarre moves, I don't get it
Dame has four years left on his deal, they don’t have to trade him at all. Just let him pout, his “loyalty” only exists because he’s getting a supermax
Whole world lost they mind because Dame requested Miami. Had he requested Boston or the Knicks everyone would be cool with 2 FRP and average role players
Nah, he can pull a KD or a Harden and just demand his way out. Portland has been doing what’s right for them and stringing the best player in the history of their franchise along for a ride this whole time.
@@cyberftHe’s under contract. He’s leverage is pennies compared to Portland. They’re already a bad team with no championship goals in mind. He can’t force his way out, he can only be let out when the Blazers like an offer that gives them what they’re looking for.
Honestly any other east playoff team could get together a better package deal. Boston Philly even the knicks tbh. Miami is the one team in the east that doesn’t have the pieces without giving up jimmy or bam which they would never do.
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The man gave you 9 gritty years you gave him Kanter. Come on man...... Portland management looking real bad rn smh
@@Gmuzac12 he shat his pants in wcf
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Thumbs up if you just want this situation to be over with.
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What other news story is going on though? Is the off-season, they gotta talk about something
Na I'm cool anything but LeBron and the Lakers all day everyday
Just wait a week 😂😂
Can't. They have to have something to talk about. I'm sure the deal is already done. It's just not 'public' yet.
I love that Nick is passionate talking about this for the 80th time
How are we supposed to care if he doesn’t…..😂😂
MIA needs to get a 3rd team involved. Nets or Celtics. Get a big man like Nic Claxton or Robert Williams III to POR.
This is what happens where there is nothing else to talk about in sports. Happens every year.
Money am I right
Thats the 3 lines of coke he did just before they went live
I’m still thinking about that “Insult to shells” statement lol
To be fair it is an insult to shells to compare them to Ben Simmons…
Facts🤣🤣
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Get a 3rd team involved. Nets or Celtics. Get a big man like Nic Claxton or Robert Williams III to POR.
that was a good one
If these was Dame wanting to go play with LeBron and the Lakers, all these media dudes would be all for it.
Lol Bron out there coaching on his son's basketball team minding his business and he still gets brought up 😂
No they wouldn't they would hate that even more
@@siba2379they always find a way!!!
Skip would shyt on it. Rob Parker would shyt on it. Mad Dog would shyt on it. Wtf are y'all speaking about. 😂
Exactly
Damian Lillard has more mainstream sports media segments these past 2 weeks than the rest of his career combined 😂
Gotta give him credit, at least we're not hearing about the Lakers and LeBron for a little while.
@@Ayaka_Kam1sato true statement lol
Fans love offense, they could careless if that back court gave up 200pts on defense just as long as they can play that lineup on XBox & Playstation
@@Ayaka_Kam1satoA fellow person of culture I see
Man I hate when Brou refers to NBA players as “garbage” and “fodder.” There has to be a non-disrespectful way to refer to people who are fighting for roster spots.
It really pisses me off.
Does it really matter though? I'm sure the millions of dollars they make will help them wipe their tears from some offhand shade on sports talk shows
A lot of people called Miami's playoff run a fluke, now the media is saying they're a super team? lmao
What media?
Herro ain't enough. I would demand for Spo, he is the most valuable piece in Miami.
The Heat wouldn’t trade Spo for Michael Jordan 😂
@@alainlamour5868A Prime Jordan: you’re out of your mind. Now, Prime Rib, makes sense. 😂
Lol could you imagine being able to add coaches to trade packages 😂🤣
Bro..
@@Yuan-lo3zz spoelstra is prob already a top 5 head coach of all time. Guys like that far outweigh superstars players. Pat Riley Phil jackson popovich are the comparable names to Spoelstras trajectory. Those guys can win through multiple regimes. A Jordan needs those guys just as much as those guys need a superstar. I thought we proved the importance of coaching this post season already. It’s not even up for discussion. The culture, identity and entire makeup of my team is derived from the front office - of which a MAJOR component of is the head coach.
Throw Bam in the deal and Dame will be in Miami. Portland got plenty of guards as it is. They need a wing or a good 4/5.
Dame wants to play with they bff
Bam and jimmy retire in Miami,that's no😮
If Dame and Steph got on the same team, thats when the 4-Point Line would be invented
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How bout the 10 pointer from old mtv games
The problem is Portland is set on guards and that’s the basis of Miami’s trade package pretty much . I wouldn’t be surprised if this goes all the way into the upcoming season before a trade is made.
Hence the reason for a 3rd team lol
@@b111x its like people forget that's an option which is even funnier when like 80% the reports have brought up 3-team or even 4-team trades lmao
@@b111xwould’ve been done by now if it was that easy
@@SSJRome No it wouldn’t be smart for Miami to give their best offer rn if NOBODY else has even made another offer. Every major trade for the past 5 players has taken over 2 months to complete. It hasn’t even been 2 weeks yet. Relax and enjoy your summer lol
@@KrisNationExactly what I was thinking.
Quickest heel turn ever.
I will break this down very simply as i havent seen anyone in the comment section mention this HE ONLY WANTS MIAMI BECAUSE OF THE TAX RATE so dont feel sorry for him hes on a supermax and just signed a 2yr extension last year for 120ms when he will be 35 n 36 gtfoh
3:40 “ ITS THE ONLY OFFER!!!!” 🗣️😂😂
Dame has absolutely zero leverage here. He lost all of it when he signed that 2/120m extension when there was no need to. Portland should only send him to Miami if Riley gives them everything they want
He has the same leverage KD and Harden had….
Easy for you to tell someone to not accept $120M lol
@@cyberftNo, he actually has the same leverage Ben Simmons did on the 76ers, maybe less. Long contract with a team who doesn’t really care if he plays or not. Portlands only incentive is to maximize what they get for him. That’s it.
He’s not going anywhere. This looks like a trade deadline type deal when either Miami ups the offer when they’re below .500 or Dame adds more teams to his list.
Brooklyn got a haul for harden and kd. Miami is offering scraps
He has all the leverage. Show up so you make your money and just turn the ball over everytime you touch it. They'll trade you before half time.
the Suns overpaid to trade for KD. just because a team overpays for a player doesn't mean that needs to be the standard in a trade or signing lol. the difference is the new owner of the Suns is eager to make a splash so he's a bit reckless... Riley is not
Loyalty means nothing at the end of the day. It shouldn’t be this difficult for him. 🤦🏾♂️ I hope all the other players learn to do for self and bump all that loyalty mess. One team days are over!
I agree
Loyalty is when a company gives you the supermax with a no trade clause in return for your services.
Exactly
They been over,, you’re 10 years late with that comment
I disagree with that, the players I admire that are not on my personal favorite team are Dame Lillard , Giannis Antetokoumpo, and even Bradley Beal.
Damian Lillard has said it from his mouth. He said he would want to go to Miami or Brooklyn. This means that Portland choosing to go against that would be a true showing. Dame has been truly loyal to the trailblazers as a team and to the community. To be honest they are being greedy thinking not to accept an even Tyler Herro - Damian Lillard trade. They've already drafted a player that long term looks like their future at the PG position.
They are acting like they can't just pick up herro then trade him. A 20 ppg player with a decent contract, plenty of teams would trade for herro. & logically it makes sense if they are just trying to rebuild. This is just the blazers being greedy
@@eddyg1960so the blazers still take the risk of having to trade Herro and maybe not getting what they want. Just do it right the first time and let Dame drown in his cash.
Slow news cycle, no NBA or NFL games
They gotta talk about something
Chris Broussard and the media keeps mentioning Boston when Dame's mouthpiece Chris Haynes been told people Boston ain't happening
Yeah, first and foremost, any trade for Dame will always include Jalen Brown. Boston hasn't signed Jalen Brown to a new contract. Should they sign Jalen, then they can't trade him for a year. Only option is sign and trade but I heard there are complications about that?
Facts 💯 but Portland wants something of value and Dame doesn't have a no trade clause so it's basically Portland advantage. Boston is also in the mix. Dame better hope he goes to a playoff team
@@jumahbrady670 Boston isn't in the mix. Nobody has an advantage.
Dame has no leverage here. He's under contract for the next 4 years so why does where he wants to play even matter?
@@shouryasangam7956because from a business aspect, their loyal stars exit will determine if another superstar will ever go there voluntarily in the future...think of Minnesota with Kevin Garnett
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I would like the NBA to find a way to dissuade these trade requests… frustrating seeing players signing massive contracts with teams and then asking to leave. If you didn’t want to be there shouldn’t of signed the extension with them.
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I agree that it's frustrating, but I also get the other side of it. Teams break guys' hearts all the time by trading them away when they want to stay, and they have no say in the matter.
Kind of like when Marcus Smart signed an extension with the Celtics and days before trading him they tell him he's not going anywhere and now he plays for Memphis. Funny because fans only expect this kind of loyalty from players. Teams can trade players all over the league and y'all have no problem with it
@@stylezblack314You know no trade clauses exist for a reason right? If you’re a player worth your salt, you’d add that in your deal or go play for a team that’s willing to be reasonable at the table.
@@Yuan-lo3zzyou’re dumb 😂🤡
At this point the lillard team is making this harder to achieve because it lets Portland know that they can really pressure Miami to give up more
Miami isn’t under any pressure. Dame already let it be known he wants to go there. Portland has no leverage
Dame is going to have to go full Harden force Portland to send him to Miami
@@Haddonfield63 Portland can just sit Dame and tank. They are in rebuild mode and Dame is leaving his prime. They have all their future picks except for 2024. Portland does not have to deal if Dame keeps being a diva while Miami cannot make any meaningful acquisitions until Dame's deal is done. Key pieces in the playoffs last year have already walked since Miami cannot spend at the moment waiting for Dame.
The way nick put the Curry Dame idea, it would be really interesting because then you have all of the other top teams extremely reliable on big men. So you run into the two opposites, extreme shooting vs extreme paint play. It would be entertaining for sure
Dame is over this stuff. He is about to go full Harden and he should. The blazers f’d this dude over and owe him one.
If Dame really wanted to play for a contender then he shouldnt have signed a huge contract with the blazers. Now other teams will have to give up a lot to acquire him. Iust like what the nets did to acquire thiers stars. And mavs did, and now the suns. No more depth in those teams.
This I really Wish these Players would stop signing Extensions and new Contracts with Teams they know they don't want to stay with (yes I know it's because the drafting team can Always max them out on years and money ).
I think the fix would be is if you ask for a Trade in anything but your Last year of the contract then you have to give back the difference between your Bird Right max and What the new team could have paid you.
I wonder if part of it is due to how much the agents are getting plus I wonder about the tax situation as well.
Imagine someone literally unloading a truckload of money... And you saying no to them.
@zacht2806 I get it I do but money today or legacy later they need to make n their choice and live with it not time two teams trying to have your cake n and eat it too
Dam wanted to stay the organization lied to him for 2 years they shut him to tank they want to rebuild
Steph AND Dame = God Tier 2K fantasy
Brou is right… both parties gonna treat it like a business…..no point of the agent making it personal 😂😂
Wildes, as usual, is right
The problem is it’s too late for Dame to leave , even if he does it’s gonna be harder to win a ring rather if he left 3-4 years ago
yea ngl if he was gonna leave he should've a long time ago he wasted a lot of tome
@@Hambone2knot really I think he only wants to experience it once before he retires. He’s still young enough an talented enough to win a ring
Then why wouldn't he add a couple other contender teams to his list? If winning a title is all that matters. Clearly that's not his first priority. Why wouldn't he mention Boston, philly, minnesota....or some other playoff team that would take a big leap with a superstar PG?
Facts might as well just stay and retire a Blazer at this point
Heat been to 2 finals and 3 ECF in the last 4 years. Add Dame and they get back fairly easily.
Dame, Wiggins, Steph, Klay, Chris sound's like a lot of air attack that's unstoppable
That Miami offer is good tho I can’t lie that new rookie they drafted has a high ceiling
Everybody looks good in summer league. 😆 Portland wants a young potential star and multiple first. Tyler Hero ain't no star.
Dame getting 60 million a year in 25 and 26 kills his value he is already 33
This was hilarious. They literally had no legitimate rebuttal for Nick Wright's points. You can't hustle a hustler like Pat Riley without help and the media is trying to help Portland. Good luck with that
Portland doesn’t have to trade him. If Miami can’t get more teams involved and put together a deal Portland likes then they absolutely should just hold on to Dame for now.
Remember when the Rockets didnt need to trade Harden so he just scored 10 points per game until they traded him?
@@sergeistalin7916that's fine cause they know what dame can do and miami really wanted him. Teams would know that dame is just throwing tantrums.
Hold on to him for what? The man will be 33 in less than 2 weeks, he won't get better but get worse as he get older. If you can honestly say we have a chance of doing some damage in the playoffs and making a championship run then I would say yes keep him but ask your self this, even with Dame right now are they better than Denver? Lakers? Memphis? Dallas? Kings? GSW? Clippers? Suns? Thunder? Wolves? I just named 10 teams that are better than them even with Dame so unless you want to waste a year just to compete to have a chance to play in the play in game then they need to get SOMETHING for him rather than waste years and then his value just goes down next year because he will be a year older.
They can get multiple teams involved they can offer 2 1st possibly 3 move hero for a 1st and martin for a 1st thats 5 1sts or 4 and a pick swap but none of them will be lottery picks and that’s not good enough if you ask Portland
@@_Some0nerandom_ cause they can.
Turn on trade override and just make this happen all ready
😂😂😂
That’s what Golden State did to get KD.
@@chrismoneystl they didn’t trade for him, he was a FA
@@calebford6318 true, I stand corrected.
So what happens when Dame goes to the Heat & they still don’t win ?.
LOL Dame will be the joke of the NBA
Fun Fact: Nick is up for a Role in the reboot of "The Three Musketeers"... 👍🏿
Under contract for the next 4 years. Dude has absolutely no say where he ends up
Exactly.
I don't understand what's so bad about the Heat trade. Portland is not in contention. They're in rebuild mode, so what's so bad about what Miami is offering?
Late first round picks and completely useless piece of garbage that is worth nothing in tyler herro
Dame has one last chip… “I’ve made a lot of money, I don’t plan to play for more then one more organization before I retire. I was hopeful after all I gave Portland they would make a comparable trade that Donovan Mitchell received last summer and they would respect my wishes and accept a trade with Miami. I am prepared to sit out for a year if the Blazers are unable to make this happen.”
- trade done
The problem with your plan is I don’t think Portland cares if he plays or not. Theyre not trying to compete now, they’re trying to compete 5 years from now and the best way to do that is to a) not have a top 15 player playing major minutes winning games and b) get as much in trade for that top 15 player as possible.
The flaw in your plan is that they don't want to play Dame. So it would be better if he sit.
Portland is in fully rebuild mode. They don’t care if Dame plays or not.
Sitting would only speed up the rebuild…Def in the blazers interest
This is the ultimate MCU hero to villain character development 😂
Can we just CTRL+Z that Poole trade?
It’s too late brother
Poole for Dame had to been the first idea I was saying this round 1 of the playoffs
Crazy that the new GM traded a 20ppg player for cp3, I really think they could have gotten much more for Poole
Y’all gotta realize bro the league is catching on to Poole play style he ant bout to be doing all he was doing on the warriors like y’all think he going to do for the wizards but the warriors should’ve traded him to Portland for lillard if they could’ve
@@Lewis0555 i still think they could have gotten more than an injury prone 38 year old
I listened to Chris diss Miami undrafted players all playoffs but now he on here saying Heat are a super team😂😂😂
Out with the old and in with the new is all i got to say
Everyone wants Portland to be bullied into taking whatever Pat is offering.
If Miami truly wants Dame, go get him 🤷🏾♂️
Keeping Dame is not beneficial for the blazers. They're trying to get more playing time for their young guards, and they'd rather be bad next year. Even if they traded Dame for close to nothing it's good for them. That contract is terrible for a bad team
Frankly i do not care about what Dame wants in terms of destination . I cut some slack for the history and loyalty argument but at the end of the day the fan base , season ticket holders etc. deserve to see the Team get the best package they can . Miami does not get to play the role of the Suns in this instance . Miami needs to come up with a better package even if it involves a few other teams. NOTE- not a Blazer or Heat fan nor hater.
@xcwilliams7980 they are going to be bad regardless so there is no rush. I wouldn't want him around for training camp but Portland should continue to be patient.
At this point I’m just sick of hearing about it. I love Dame, great player, generational talent and he’s an alumni to the same college as myself but I’m sick of the smoke screens.
SEND THE MAN TO MIAMI. THIS IS FOR THE GOOD OF THE SPORT! Can’t picture Dame anywhere else. Miami is the perfect match
Thank you,love this.And that what I am saying ❤❤❤❤😮
Imagine being a fan of a franchise where star players WANT to come there . 😢😢
Emergency sarcasm fail
As a Cavs fan, I feel your pain 😑
Everyone wants to be in Miami
I love Dame - but I sign a 60 mil a year contract - I’m playing with that team - but I hope both sides get something they are ok with
Sorry to relate this to Jokic, but, it’s just amazing that these guys love Dame going to an already great team to get a ring. Go to Miami, a team with four players who have been all stars. Go to GS and play with four players who have been all stars. But they hate Jokic, or at least Nick does, who just won a ring with ZERO players who have ever been all stars. It’s a weird blind spot for these guys.
They should trade Dame wherever they want.....If he dont play he dont play...these players have lost their minds
Thank you!!
Right. But remember, this is a player’s league unlike the NFL✌🏿
people acting like they didn’t draft his replacement and losing some leverage
I love brou but that super-team statement at the end…. when he dogged the Miami Heat for having no talent all through the playoffs is craaaazy😂
Nothing like closing off all your options.
Come on Portland finish this already, we’re over it
As a Portland fan. If I'm the Blazers I'd just still trade him to any respectable destination or just keep Dame. I'm not going for that "it can ONLY be Miami bs", especially if Miami's offer isn't good enough. Blazers will take Herro and 4-5 1st rd picks and 2 2nd rd picks. Or just Bam and a single 1st rd pick. Also, Blazers shouldn't be willing to take back any longterm salary besides Bam or Herro. And, I like Herro, but I can imagine the Blazers would not be thrilled to get him not because of his talent either, he's just a redundancy for the Blazers. Only reason Blazers are considering trading Dame is because now we definitely have too many starting caliber guards. Right now Blazers have 2 guards a PG and SG we see as starting caliber to build a future around, AND we have Dame and Simmons who are starters easily starters that can both easily average 20ppg as the main or even secondary scoring option. Replacing Dame with Herro just doesn't solve the too many starting guards caliber problem. Simmons and Herro are about the same in talent level. To ask one of them to go from a starting role to a bench role for Scoot Henderson probably won't be an ideal situation for them. When they'd be eithe the best player or second best player on like 15-20 other teams. They also both make starter monet. And having Scoot come off the bench is a waste of time if they decide to trade Dame.
@@gamechanger114yall paid him half a billion career earnings. ..send him to China for all I care
@@manz7860 Clearly wasn't talking to you. If you have ZERO interest in where he goes. There was literally no reason for your comment. Like why are you even here lol???🤔
Edit: Are you that lame lol????😅
Doesnt matter because even if Dame signs they'll still gonna talk about it for the rest of the summer
Wildes u should be comparing the dame trade return to what Beal was traded for, not Durant
Nick: it’s the only offer.
Wilds: it’s not a good offer.
That’s the entire conversation on this. Portland has all the leverage. There’s no good reason for them to trade Dame to Miami right now.
No they don’t. The Celtics are already out on him because of what he’s done. That’s his leverage. He doesn’t have to play for teams and there goes their assets.
@@chasingfelix3609and to add to that, they don’t want dame playing with scoot. And it’s not a Bad offer. The blazers are probably tryin to get rid of nurkic too and Miami is like nah we got other plans with that money
Them not wanting dame to play with scoot is pure conjecture. Someone could easily say that it would be a boon for Scoot to play next to/learn from one of the greatest PGs in modern basketball. Dame going to be the bad guy on a 4 year contract?
Portland will trade him eventually. They have no reason to send him to Miami for peanuts and -1 Nurk contract.
It’s a good offer, nets traded dfs for kyrie Irving. James harden was traded for Ben Simmons. More media biasness agaisnt the heat
Yes there is, they want to begin their rebuild with the #3 pick from the draft taking over at the very same position Dame plays. Blazers have a little leverage, and Dame has a bit more.
Portland is no in a rush to trade him. Dame and Miami are in a rush
Yeah they want more that's why😮
Dame claims complete loyalty to Portland but will only let them trade to 1 team with not a great trade package. Dames come up short, tired of players coming up short and us appreciate them leaving to go ring chase. Dame right now is everything he strived not to be. Let him go to the defending east champs, maybe some will appreciate the ring chase. Not me, leave in free agency. If you sign a contract, fulfill it, then leave.
Naaa Dame solid stayed the past 3-4 years , with everyone knowing they couldn’t compete … Y’all need to stop with these horrible narratives
@@unmhking what’s the horrible narrative? Couldn’t compete in the last 3-4 years? We’ll 4 years ago he averaged 22 in the semis against a kd/less warriors when Steph averaged 36 on the series. He’s had a shot to go to the finals in Portland and came up short. Yes, for him to average 22 in the west finals and Steph average 36. That’s coming up short. Teams were completly even. Then, he pushed them to make change so they tried to get pieces for CJ, it didn’t work out. The past year nah that wasn’t loyalty. He signed a 60mill/year contract, rehabbed a bunch, and now is only asking to be traded to 1 team with a bad trade package. I wouldn’t care, but dame has dissed so many guys for switching up teams I mean he even made a song track abt Paul George. He went from dont run from the grind, to take the $ then ring chase. Terrible, if he was loyal he’d play out that 60mill/year contract. He just stayed so he could get that, and bail. U can have ur opinion that’s mine
@@Kennyisamalekaren TLDR … born in the grind and the only superstar not to be paired with another Superstar enough said 😂
@@unmhking dirk… 🤡. And ur acting like dame isn’t tryna go to the team that was just in the finals. He showin his true roots here, I don’t mind ring chasing. But can’t call yourself loyal doin what he’s doin man
@@Kennyisamalekaren Mavs we’re stacked with talent that’s my team lol try again 🤦🏽♂️
So Dame was afraid of Portland fans being mad at him asking for a trade, but wouldn’t be afraid of other teams’ fans and the sports media ripping him if he sat out? Ridiculous. He’s a professional who will play wherever he’s sent to
Haven't watched yet, but can't wait to see how many times Broussard will say Boston
whats up with him and Boston man?
The problem is with owners who think like Kevin Wildes is that they let there ego get in the way of things. If a player doesn't want to play for your team anymore than move on from that player. Fools always say well they are paying you all this money but what about all the money that these players are making for the team? If the team was trash then the value of these teams would be trash. Do you think the value went up or down because of DAME? You think the value went up or down for teams that have LBJ, Pat Mahomes, Giannis, Brady, Etc.. fans get mad because they see a player making 200 Million and say well I would play for that but then ignore the fact that the owner of the team just made an extra BILLION because now the value of the team went from from ticket sales, merchandise, etc.. Get what you can get for Dame and move on. I could understand if the team was in title contention and actually had a chance to win but why waste a chance to get at least something for a good player rather than keeping him and they don't do s**t next year when they could get picks/players and start rebuilding to have a chance?
Just trade him. Get a third team involved. Third Team gives up their picks and a little role player or some such and get Herro. Portland gets their picks and role player plus Miami’s picks and some sort of role player…
Broussard is my guy. His takes make sense to me.
Rudy trade ruined the market cuz the heat trade seems fair to me
Fair if your a heat fan
Hilarious. The heat offer is a joke.
@@alexrivera9639 clippers fan
This should be illegal under contract.
Day 73 of talking Dame 😭
😂😂
He is coming ❤❤❤❤
DAME LILLARD'S agent sounds a lot like NICK WRIGHT... hahaha
After Nick changed his opinion about Jokic this became my favourite sports show.
Nick knows when to change, most of the time they do it just for arguments. Check how they always pick opposing teams during the playoffs
@@cmc2110 That's a big difference between Nick and Skip "I'll never admit I was wrong" Bayless.
@MDM679 NW has never admited he is wrong, he just switched some statements becouse he had no other choice.
@@nikolayjerev9285 Even though he never admitted he was wrong, the show became watchable the moment he stopped hating on Joker.
@@MDM679He still has some side-eye towards Jokic. And, he’s still a part of club “over-the-top criticism till you win.”
Why does Dame think that Miami’s lucky season will carry over? They were in the play-in last year man! Making it to the Finals again this season is a pipe dream. Dame might as well stay in Portland if he won’t go to BOS or PHI
Nick can't be more wrong...of course other teams are making offers.. didn't the agent just go around telling people to quit making offers? Or not make offers which suggests to me that other teams are calling
Told them not to make an offer
Yea this was embarrassing
I wouldn't say he's completely wrong. Obviously a better offer than Miami's hasn't been presented or it would have happened.
@@stuckNcloudz no they are evaluating n waiting to see what offers are put before them before making a decision....the longer they wait the more teams will up their offer...even if it is Miami it's smart to play them against each other
What team is making an offer? All i ever hear on these shows are rumors. Only one confirmed offer. Name one trade offer
People forget dame is 32
Dame is in the same spot Aaron Rodgers was after he signed that massive extension a few off-seasons ago. He gave up all his leverage to secure the bag.
Rodgers is with the Jets now. So what is your point?
@@youreagoddamngenius9099The Jets were the only team that were really in for him so it’s not like he had a choice in where he went. He could have let himself hit free agency and maybe gone to a different team.
Gobert trade is the golden standard of how much a player should be traded for.
I hate how players want to force a trade to their perfect place where the team can't get anything in return. Don't act like Dame did Portland any favors. He took his money. He stayed for the max they could give that others couldn't. Blame the front office, but also blame Dame for not doing anything to get better defensively and all he did was just keep shooting further from the basket. Cool. Here's your L.
So play your contract out or take the trade that the team finds best for themselves. Period.
Blaming Dame for any of this is ridiculous lol
@@beau_sauce_god2676he could’ve left at any time but he’d rather collect his super max and take indirect shots at the front office on social media like a teen girl
He didn’t decide to rebuild they did
@@dontmindme4197 the double standard is ridiculous when you see others like Rockets Harden get destroyed. Dame ALWAYS has a pass. Fact is when Harden no defense videos were going around the internet as comedy, Dame was the routinely the worst defender in the NBA.
@@donnyg9993so your telling me if an organization offered you a super max contract like that you wouldn’t take it?
Damien Lillard to the Warriors for: Wiggins, Kuminga, Moody, Chris Paul and Draft Picks? Watch this space...
Nick's really leaning into his persona and it's fun to watch haha
Agreed wholeheartedly
Dame has said he's open to going back to Weber State (Utah) to coach after retiring. I don't think he'd "settle" for Utah, necessarily.
Hurry it tf up Portland and Dame before I get my belt
Thank you wilds!
If they don't do right by dame I'm all for this new era of stars leaving organizations high and dry
they've already done right by him.
If Chris were a GM he'll lose his job IMMEDIATELY all because he wants to maintain this "be a man and be tough" image.
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Naw it's not about being tough dame has a contract mind you he has 4 yrs left on his contract Portland shouldn't have to take back horrible assets from the heat if the blazers gm don't get back decent assets for dame he will get fired and may not get another job the gm has to do what's best for Portland
@@takethat863exactly a bad trade trickles down from the GM to the coach to the fans
Just wondering, specially the word “period” according to dame’s agent, what if he doesn’t get traded to Miami? What will he do? Just asking…
Dame . . . you gave your word! You signed the contract. You took the money. You don't have a trade clause. Time to step up and do the right thing.
Lol team also gave them their word to build a contender ??? Hmmm but that means nothing right
Nick is great at this
Dame: I wanna win
Also Dame: I only wanna win with Miami
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just wish everyone had a better memory … 25 year old franchise player Donovan Mitchell received 3 future first round picks & swaps, a 6”0’ guard coming off a major injury, and a guy that the league gave up on and had already been traded to two teams.
If Markkanen didn’t have a breakthrough season this year everyone would have remembered what a trash offer that was last season. How fast folks forget
I like Mitchell and would be happy to have him on my team but he is not a "franchise " player.
Dame and Curry are the same player this trade makes zero sense the Warriors need to trade Klay for an allstar big
Lebron to the warriors in one year,after Lakers .no dame!!
He wants to go to Miami because that’s the only team he can join and it won’t be a super team or frowned upon.
Joining the team that was just in the finals? It’s a little weak
@@dillMANbabyso it'd be better if he joined the bucks right? Lol
With Jimmy Butler and Bam I say it would be a super team
He can join the Warriors who AREN'T a super team. Homegrown core with ONE superstar in Steph and great role players.
@@leir2005 Bam isn’t a top 25 player STOP IT!!! If Dame goes to Miami and is their top scorer which is highly likely no one is going to say anything about that move.
Blazers need to get the best deal they can.
Nick please call it into reality for us... Us heat fans really really want him lol
Just to lose in the finals again
@@ohajreese6592 oh well at least we are doing something.. What's your team..... Please let me hear this
So why should any team help them now???
facts how you going to demand teams not to trade or not let him suffer in Portland
Bro is not a free agent 💀
Scoot and Herro could be a really good backcourt just saying
Just saying they are already paying Simons less than Herro and his numbers are not much different . Miami is being lazy as they know if they get Dame they have to move Herro. Time for Riley to stop thinking he is in the same position as the Suns and find a third team to take Herro for first rounders.
Meh just don’t trade him. He’s got 4 years on his deal.
Right? These players act like the teams are forced to do whatever they want. You signed the contract buddy, keep crying
Tyler will be Jaylen Brown if he continues to improve.... they should want him.
No he won’t WTF 🤣🤣🗑️
@@madmelkiperlol this is why Heat fans just passed Lakers fans for the dumbest fanbase in the league cuz of sh** like this 😂
Nick is crazy. He's pushing this so hard, Portland can just go 'we'll wait as long as we need to'. Like, they're in no rush at all.
Nick is ridiculous and a Homer for some orgs making bizarre moves, I don't get it
Dame has four years left on his deal, they don’t have to trade him at all. Just let him pout, his “loyalty” only exists because he’s getting a supermax
Whole world lost they mind because Dame requested Miami. Had he requested Boston or the Knicks everyone would be cool with 2 FRP and average role players
He should’ve just got a no trade clause in his contract if he wanted control over where he wants to play, Portland gotta do what’s best for them too.
Nah, he can pull a KD or a Harden and just demand his way out. Portland has been doing what’s right for them and stringing the best player in the history of their franchise along for a ride this whole time.
@@cyberftHe’s under contract. He’s leverage is pennies compared to Portland. They’re already a bad team with no championship goals in mind. He can’t force his way out, he can only be let out when the Blazers like an offer that gives them what they’re looking for.
The Miami offer isn’t even bad. Portland shouldn’t play hard ball or else it would hurt the team’s free agent chances in the future
These guys made the finals and new guy is winning in summer league
Miami has by far the most useless trade package for Portland even if they trade in good faith.
Who got these best? Name it
Honestly any other east playoff team could get together a better package deal. Boston Philly even the knicks tbh. Miami is the one team in the east that doesn’t have the pieces without giving up jimmy or bam which they would never do.
Yeah they could but they don’t want to. Philly doesn’t want to move Maxey and Boston isn’t trading Brown
Dude that our great players,you kidding me !!!!
Did Portland go to the finals ,no.These guys made it to the finals busting a .I disagree
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