Eminem was their great white hope and that’s why they gave him everything and took our face off of hip hop and put his face on it. It’s like how Elvis got everything from black musicians and then they labeled him the King Of Rock n Roll….
The thing is if you really know his history white record labels turned him down because he was white. They didn’t want no white rapper. Eminem is a very talented artist and one of the most talented rappers in history and that’s why he got his spot. Point blank. And our people hate that because he white and that’s just facts. Y’all acting like we not fucked up as well rapping about oversexualizing our women selling drugs to our neighborhood since the 80s but when a white rapper make it now we wanna unite and get political. God make sht a certain way for a reason
@@getsugaallen6612 In what way is that deflecting? Are you confused about the definition of that word or the practice of "sidestepping probing questions" with answers not on point? The comment addressed the notion that somehow Eminem got made the face of hip hop out of some kind of plot from the nefarious industry to promote white supremacy and shaft black artists. That didn't happen. The industry rode the wave, but they didn't create/cause it and didn't work AGAINST black artists rather than try to make money off of EVERYBODY who could flow! Music is a sonic experience; it doesn't have a skin color. Culture also isn't something you can hold in your hands or put on some pedestal or shelf; it can't be OWNED because it's NOT a thing or static but rather a product of a dynamic process of exchange carrying forward existing traditions but altering them with innovations and creating combinations that lead to the new. You say black people created rock and roll and Elvis stole it, but the reality is a different story. They had a critical contribution, no doubt, and it did influence Elvis. However, you don't get rock and roll (and most definitely not hip hop) without drummer Gene Krupa, a musician of Polish descent who was arguably the best ever to hold the sticks!!! He was heavily influenced by the hot jazz and cold gin of his early years soaking up music in the jazz culture, but what he did was innovative and could not be replicated by most other musicians no matter how hard they tried and he worked to teach students who came to him--black, white, pink-and-purple-polka dotted didn't matter! They just couldn't play to his level and how he did, but they were still influenced by him and what he contributed in the technical aspects of percussion. Without that technical advancement in the set up of drum kits and inspiration he provided, there's no Dre, no hip hop, and not even rock and roll as we know those! Going back to that hot jazz, it, too, was a fusion ironically born out of an attempt at segregation. When new Jim Crow laws codified separation of the different "races" of people (a made-up concept that doesn't exist), musicians who had been playing classical works of the great European masters suddenly found themselves having to play different venues with other musicians who played different genres. So, reading what happened as black people one day just inventing a whole new category of music is overly simplistic and flat wrong! Jazz came out of black experiences, but there was an awful lot of white people and tradition involved in that, too! For example, you don't get those jazzy arpeggios of ragtime piano without 19th-century composer and pianist Franz Liszt. He did two things of note for music, actually, with his virtuoso skills and contributions to composing and playing music as a pianist just part of his legacy. He also believed that music was for the masses, not the rich few. At that time, musicians usually practiced and climbed the ladder for years until they reached the level of getting a wealthy patron to support them. Liszt would set up a stage in crowded European cities and put on a show for all to hear. He was a real showman and pretty much the first musician we can find who triggered that kind of fan base we now call stans because of Em, with worshipping women losing their minds for Liszt like those who saw Elvis move his pelvis! So, who gets to claim to own jazz and rock? Do we just discount any white artists who made contributions to music and say black people invented all music genres since the classical era?!? And just where do you see this cultural apartheid you want to impose ending? Should we remove Tiger Woods from contention as a golf GOAT and Hank Aaron over in baseball because those are white men's sports?!? Come on!
Alot of white folks cheered on Eminem just because he white when they not even fans of hip hop at all. And to be honest alot of Detroit Black support/ take up for him over ither Black people because he quote unquote " From Detroit"
It's crazy cause when Eminem wrote that song against Trump a lot of his fans turned on him which kind of proves part of benzinos point they were Eminem fans but not because of Eminems talent
And what people don’t understand also is that a lot of his own kind don’t even like him even from way back when he came out they were shitting on him. Ppl keep saying white ppl only listen to him which is total cap cause he does have a good percentage of black fans that also like him, and those like Benzino who don’t like him makes them irritated
Exactly. They shared the messages he presented in those earlier records. The violence he minimized is something they still hold onto. We’ve become unstimulated because of the music, they’ve become hostile and incel.
When em 1st came out, I called this, I refused to listen to him, was called a hater, and I proudly wore my hater hat. I trust my instincts, and I knew the fans he was drawing, don't even know our culture, but they sent that volture in to feast off it.
Kurupt was born in Philly, and moved to L.A. when he was 16. WC was born in Houston, and later moved to L.A. In the words of Rakim "It's not where you're from it's where you're at".
Same with Xzibit. He was born and raised in Detroit, moved to Cali, and the Likwit Crew took him under their wing. Tha Alkaholiks helped Xzibit in a big way, and he always reps Likwit Crew.
Benzino on fire some rappers forgot about what hip hop is music ,community service, after success, arts, graffitti, beats and rhymes celebration, dance,djs ,rappers and shows, the list goes on thanks for the refresh of what hip hop is.
Benzino isn’t even hip hop tho… he’s a rapper that talks about gangster crap not about the elements! And any true Hiphop head knows it’s not about race and don’t care about ur race or color when ur at a hip hop event! (That negative energy he brings is not Hiphop!)
@@nathanharris3787 I think all hip hop artists wanna make music for the black community primarily those from inner city culture because that’s where it started. Your turn
@@nathanharris3787 what point are you trying to make? I see no point in what you’re saying! Did you hear me say that black people don’t listen to him no you didn’t! Majority of blacks from the hood if not all don’t listen to him. He obviously has a large fan base just the hood isn’t one! Benzino made great points about him
Benzino is 100% on point. I've been saying this for 20 years now that YT ppl used Em to shyt on Black ppl. Their mission was to paint a picture that even though rap music/hiphop is a Blackman's castle, a YT rapper owns it. And guess what, it work for decades. I have been debating with my friends from my teenage era about this. It's to make Black ppl feel valueless.
If you actually know Ems history record labels did not want him because they did not want a white rapper. Y’all gotta chill with the race theories and conspiracies you think the white race as a whole conspired against black people instead of admitted Eminem was just a very talented artist
@@zone1250Well homie if you look at the real history of America you'd understand why these theories come up with us Em is dope but I can still see what he's saying.
@@zone1250this is so right, Em was getting turned down left and right. Em’s did not get the respect because he was white. He literally opened the door for white rappers today
I gotta admit Benzino made perfect sense in how he broke down his criticism of Eminem, this was a deep interview and every black hip hop fan should listen to it because some jewels 💎 were dropped here !
Actually, both HE and YOU are WRONG! I notice there's a name you're royally mistaken enough to miss to parrot Benzino, who gets A LOT wrong! Here, it's omitting that name that's the BIGGEST in the 1980s as far as MTV, especially since he didn't have any existing fanbase to offer. Yet HIS music claims that spot of being the one to kick down the doors in 1982 (so early and not mid 1980s and nothing to do with MJ or Run DMC). See, kids like we were watching MTV originally were sure ready to party back then, like it was the future date of 1999, and we were all crying like doves the sign of the times ahead might mean the end of the world before we got our turn enjoying it! Then this guy with a guitar came along in long duster coats and high-heeled boots and made us all feel better about that as HE got the #1 spot for kicking in that particular door! Yes, critics like to credit MJ with making artistic films out of videos as the monster Thriller dominated the 1980s...but didn't really as far as this ONE rival, who had a claim to his own fabulously puple reign conquering that space and the charts with multiple albums!
@@csmith63no he's not wrong .just seen archives of David Bowie talking bout MTV slighting urban music on a interview. So u stop spreading your long winded misinfo
@@michaelallen8112 Did you miss the point?!? I think you must have. Who played the song "1999"? Who played "When Doves Cry"? It was NOT MJ and NOT Run DMC who kicked down that particular door! It was freaking Prince in his stiletto boots! HE was the one who kicked in the door and got the barriers dropping! Now, his rivalry with MJ meant we got a lot of good videos, and "Thriller" with its Vincent Price intro and Rick Baker make-up effects was must-see TV anytime it was on, but playing ping pong at Paisley Park to reigning supreme with his movie-length masterpiece video that was Purple Rain, it was Prince who got there first! So, learn to read, and stop spreading incorrect "facts," which was EXACTLY my point about Benzino! He can't even get the story of "the culture" right at the basic facts level--perhaps because he never bothered to read anything longer than a cocktail napkin before trying to play magazine mogul for making Mays' The Source a loan for a partnership title and then helped run the journalists who could research and write to the parking lot and publication into the ground! I'm glad you can stream some history, but you might want to try reading it sometimes, too, to put more than soundbites of information in there.
@@csmith63THAT'S BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW IT! MTV NEVER PLAYED BLACK MUSIC UNTIL MICHAEL JACKSON AND RUN DMC KICKED DOWN THE DOWN THE DOOR IN THE EARLY 80's! 💯 IT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE HISTORY BOOKS! 💯 HELL, THEY EVEN HAVE DAVID BOWIE EVEN SPEAKS OF THIS! 💯
Naw they get mad when people start asking for reparations like they suffered thru slavery. At what point do people just move on and stop crying and begging 4 hand outs
@@tylerl3510 If you elders worked at a Fortune 500 company built it on there backs and got nothing for it was tortured, raped, and beaten then all of sudden got let go from the company and was promised and lawfully told they were gonna give them 40 acres and a mule then proceeded to give it to them an then take it back and I’m just giving you small details of the genocide that took place. My question to you is how would you feel and what would you do?
@@rainman1985Exactly, this is what his beef with Eminem has been about the whole time. I had those source magazines and I understood what he meant from the jump
He's not lying,em was getting that kind of praise even from blk ppl because he was yt and could really rap...We have our own culture when it comes to hiphop but we're always trying to bring in other races that doesn't resonate with our upbringing and struggles.....We've given hiphop away to yt ppl,u can imagine how many yt ppl actually bought em's albums vs blk ppl......they wanna be us until the cops show up
Doesn't resonate with your upbringing...huh. So, is it poverty, violence, rampant drug use/abuse/sales in the neighborhood, broken families with single mothers and deadbeat dads that doesn't resonate?!? It sounds to me like Eminem is rapping about a lot of those same topics I hear other rappers discussing! Sure, there are some differences, too. Marshall Mathers steps in and takes accountability for any bits of Slim Shady that leaked from the rap persona into the real world. He owns up to his sins openly and rectified them. Yet, ok, let's talk about what happened when the cops showed up in their lives. Which one had a black woman call 911 because of the physical and mental abuse she was enduring at his hands? Which one of them threw around racial slurs at the police when stopped for drunk driving?!? How did Eminem cause all of that?!?
I'm from Michigan. Eminem can spit but his music didn't hit with the culture. I was in highschool when Eminem was at it's peak . I've never heard his songs get played at a prom, house party, in the car with the beat in the trunk riding down the street, not at a family reunion, a wedding, a smoke sessions, etc. 8 mile was fire though. We played 8 mile and Paid in Full back to Back
Same on the first part of your comment down in Miami. Nvr heard him at any function where Black Folk decided the kinda music to be played. Nvr heard nobody playing him out their car. Nvr been hanging with no group of Black People, friends or strangers, listening to boombox and one of’em buss out with “yo, check this new eminem sh*t”. It wasn’t happening then. It ain’t happening now. 🤷🏿♂️
I personally know this is BS, just people repeating as echoes what they keep in their filter-bubbled chambers to prop up their own egos. Yet I'd like to know how it is that so many rappers include him as an influence if they never heard him?!? Of course, that brings up the next point about this apartheid of visible and yet non-existent "race" you're trying to impose on sonic culture like you can own it and create separate zones with no one crossing color lines and put it on a pedestal at your auntie's house or some such place so no one else can touch it (which is NOT how culture works). So, with these comments, did you actually intend to come out here celebrating wilful ignorance of rap history and legacy?!? See, that truly insults "the culture," since it was black artists like Ice T and Dr. Dre who saw the potential in fusing that way?!?! Then Benzino out here NOW putting hands on women and throwing racial slurs, so where is the worst fault?!? It sure sounds like you're saying being black gives HIM a pass!
@@joshingram071 , indeed Miami is no paragon of lyricism. But anywhere, including Miami, had actual hip hop headz that loved lyricism, but none of us like lyricism to the exclusion of everything else. Thing is, you can name any Black Rapper and there are plenty of Black People who don’t listen to him and nobody has a problem with it. Everybody doesn’t listen to Jay-z and nobody has a problem with it. Everybody don’t listen to Nas and nobody has a problem with it. Everyone understands that we all have different tastes. Only eminem has to be listened to by everybody without exception or there’s some sort of injustice going on.
@@carriesmith7843 What's his point? That you can't afford the Tombstones when our Babies are shot up due to your Drill & Gangster music? Still worried about a little white boy rapping 25+ years later?
Would that be his legacy of violence against the women he claims he defends?!? Would that be the legacy of being a deadbeat dad jealous of his own daughter?!? HIS actual legacy is that he HURT hip hop and then destroyed HIMSELF!!!! He did NOT found The Source, and it lost all credibility because of HIM! That's it. Those are the facts of the case. Done. Toast. Femzino finito!
@@marcelbey-el1947 Take the hint then. He's WRONG--in every way! People who hate on Eminem and so don't listen to his music have no idea he says the worst thing Marshall Mathers ever did was to put his hands on a woman...ONCE! It was when Kim was cheating and they were in the worst part of the whirlwind. She put hands on him more than once with him just disengaging, but ONE time he got physical and is still guilty over it and has reflected on it, recognized it for what it was, and admitted it quite publicly. Benzino is out here saying he's defending black women, but what is HIS record for how women get treated?!? He beats them. He uses slurs with them. He undermines his own daughter's career! He was just out there talking some trash about how black women don't know how to behave because no one is teaching them the proper way to be a lady instead of getting all emotional--BENZINO saying that!!!! So, if you're riding with Benzino, I hope you got the window seat jammed in that little car with the people who have floppy shoes and big red noses on!
That album was hot garbage too The source mic ratings used to be SO regarded; Illmatic became so huge after it got 5 mics...used to be huge accomplishment. But benzino and mays ruined it
He speakin facts.. im Black (Aboriginal Australian) and hip hop was a big thing in our community from the mid 80s . We had break dance crews and rappers... We could relate to what was being said on the tracks from the U.S.. white people in Australia would mock it and call it black rap crap.. but when eminem came.. everything changed.. we had white people in Australia thinkin they was more hiphop then us 😂 it felt like we was being colonised all over again
@@juuglord8509 Yes, it is--in quite a misogynistic way given the view of women it presents! It's called stereotyping for a reason, including the issues of race, because as he points out, when BLACK MEN get enough money, they prove they've made it by getting a WHITE WOMAN! I don't hold that against Kanye, generally, because I'm not a racial hypocrite who thinks/says only white rappers talk shiite about women while ignoring what black rappers do! I also can separate art and artist, although Kanye and Kim Kardashian kind of prove his point. If one actually pays attention to what is in Eminem's music, there's always a clear distinction between Shady, the rap persona Eminem, and the man Marshall Mathers. What he says about being fit to raise daughters resonates when you listen to how Marshall Mathers thinks/talks about women, his behavior in relationships where he admits mistakes, and being a father. How is Kanye's daughter doing these days?!? We know what Coi Leray has to say about Benzino, and we've seen what he abusively does to her, too!
This segment was better than Benzinos entire career. If he could’ve put this on wax he would’ve been a legend. Very deep and nuanced discussion. Should be required listening for Black people and hip hop fans.
I’m grateful how everybody finally actually listen to what he’s saying , in this interview he finally articulates with logic n understanding,without the alcohol his perspective is quite clear 🏆🔥🙏
I've watched this interview 20 times over. Benzino talking str8 actual factual and whoever doesn't think so?? Are so deluded that they shouldn't even have a opinion on this subject matter. ✌🏾👊🏾💯
Show me one black person who wants or ever wanted to be like Eminem? Go.... I'll wait ✋🏾 However, I can show you millions of non-black people who wants to be like, Cos-playing, imitate, mimic and straight steal black American Hip-hop culture. We are the CULTURE 🇺🇲
Lol he meant black people that are accepted because of their “hood image”, you know black people don’t accept those dudes, our culture chase that hood wanna be image
@@mfjudge9212 cause Zino trying to make a point about Em not being from Detroit, even if he reps it. He's talking/rambling in circles about him being born in Missouri and living there from 1-10 then moving to Michigan..and for what? It's not some new revelation, and if the D supports him, as much as he reps it, who cares where he was born, or if he's outside of Detroit. For all the things to get at em about, this is possibly the stupidest. Will he get at Luda for not being from ATL? 21 Savage? Premier? Alchemist?
@@thecunninlynguist u just talking about it just to go against your black brother that's all. We all know about what you said. But the point is making is that em is a white guy who originally didn't come up with blackfolks like that. He low key a plant
I hate when people that were part of the problem destroying neighborhoods and then profiting from the stories they tell about destroying the community talk shit as if they care so much about the community they helped destroy
They were blind now they can see. It's called atonement. Who better to fix the hood than those who were once enslaved and traumatized by it then survived to see the mistakes of their old ways
@@yachtboyzmusic8036what would you do if all your friends were being murdered and you lived in an area that was kill or be killed? And this life was passed down to you by the previous generation. Its easy to criticize people who are street, but you never felt the challenges they faced because you didn't grow up like that. By the time you're 12, you've already seen people layed out dead under white sheets that were your neighbors. That PTSD will make anybody mentally ill and be destructive. Add severe poverty and no positive role models..so yeah..you guys are just unaware
@@sabot4ge bro I’m from north Philly , spent all most 10 years of my life in prison and I’ve done everything you can think of while running the streets. I’m more than qualified to make the statement Ij made
@sabot4ge Demoncrats talking points! Stop making excuses! Dr Ben Carson came from the hood and became a great surgeon and many others! Making excuses for failure! Give me a break! How many people experience Jim Crow and make it, to become a nurse with, my father also, became a chemist, Living in the Jim Crow Era! Black people are their own worst enemy! Black people created this problem, but blame the white man 🙄🤦🏾♂️
Just because he's saying something that sounds nice doesn't mean he's the good guy. This is the guy who has drugged his wife's underaged niece to have sex with him, and is deeply, deeply racist. Be careful who you root for.
whenever he calls him MARSHALL, it makes me laugh. Because he is calling him EMINEM throughout this. But he is calling him MARSHALL purposely at points lol.
He is 100% right. Although he has great wordplay, Black Americans don’t listen to Em like that. We can’t relate to what he rap about, that $hit don’t touch our souls. Our cultural music isn’t based on wordplay, it is based upon our Black American experiences, our struggles, our culture, our political & social achievements and lineage, not wordplay.
Yea he should of had lyrics about shooting his own people and selling drugs in his community. Than it would of "touched yall souls" lol ignorant people everywhere
I'm an ACTUAL historian, as in the kind with degrees, and I specifically did oral history as part of my specialty. No, he doesn't speak unvarnished truth and very little truth at all! It drove one of my profs flat nuts how detached the next generation was from the reality of the history behind them, and I'll never forget the preaching we got when he came in hot one night after an encounter with those booming stereo systems that got put into cars costing more than people's houses back in the 1990s. When there used to be straight up "No blacks allowed after sundown" and similar signs up across the South, they'd roll the windows down and turn up the radios as they drove through those places in the daytime as a kind of protest. Funny how no one ever mentions things like that when they're out here talking about "the culture" and those speaker sets blasting rap! Of course, that's probably because there's no such thing as "the culture" in the first place, which isn't something a person or group can OWN! Trying to impose apartheid on musical genres won't work, because such attempts at segregation NEVER work; humans have contact and interact in ways that can't be separated into strands. That's especially true of how jazz and hip hop formed, precisely because they combined several influences. No one is learning any history from Benzino, just repeating ignorance!
I see white ppl and some Indian dudes talking mess to blk ppl online saying blks are jealous because Eminem & Logic rap better and out sell every black artist in history. But when bring up Big L Big Pun Kool G Rap Rakim that’s the backpack 🎒 era of hip hop
Born and raised in Michigan, he on point but the white people are very racists yo. Most of their kids that grew up with us and enjoy the culture are cool, but of course there’s still the ones influenced by their upbringing. And when Trump was in office, oh boy you REALLY saw them true colors come out smh. But yeah after moving away to Oakland and returning home, it’s crazy how I didn’t realize how majority white it is. I was shocked in my own hometown like damn 😂
If people can set aside their idol worship of Eminem and really really listen to the way Brnzino is breaking this shit down then you'll learn that he's spitting nothing but facts! But if you think small minded and hate the messanger for pushing the message then you'll never truly understand hip-hop in its entirety!
😳 *Wow! This whole breakdown was very well said. I honestly expected him to sound like a salty hater. But he came across as genuine, with a deep concern for our people.*
That's a negative friend. What you expected at is what you got just with a bunch of gibberish to mask that fact. I don't think em is no kind of racist and he not supposed to be expected to stand up with a fist up talking no power to the people talk. He a damn rapper who does love live and breath hip hop. I can't believe the amount of people trying to act like this dude ain't paid his dues and walked in the trenches to get where he is. Listen to him when he gives treach from naughty by nature his flowers and talks about how he literally wanted to quit rapping because of him and how proof told him not to stop. He one of the only rappers I do hear who gives homage and lays respect to those who came before him and it's not fake respect that's the thing. He recites the actual lyrics he came up on and admired. You hear the hardest spitters give him his props and let's you know he's not to be played with lyrically. But then these guys like benzino who have had success and squandered it off just hating and acting like em is where he is because he's white. It's just ridiculous. Ok look if you want to see Benzino for real and you like this narrative then go watch his 4 drink champs sit down and then tell me he just ain't no Em hater and to many other artist. Go watch that then come back here. This dude wild. I see him on drink champs acting a straight bafoon coming off like he trying to capture the wave of Charleston White. Uhhhh knock it the hell off.
Great dialogue with Benzino, definitely a new side of him I didn't know. as far as the other points he brought up about culture, and collective, he's partly right in terms of psychology, philosophy, sociology and epistemology. Some deep and some broad points on the bigger picture there in history.
Also Benzino got hate comments from the white fans, from the Eminem STANs that are about 1oo an hour? that's like 2,4000 troll/hate comments a day! That's like 168,000 hate/troll comments a week roughly!! That's approximately 696,000 hate/troll Comments a month!!! That's about 7,326,000 hate comments a year!!! How does he handle all that hate???
I have to say that for the most part, I fully agree with the man’s opinion about why Em’s still so highly regarded. He’s right, no one’s followed up to take the white emcee torch 🤷🏾♂️
Sorry to burst y’all bubble but let’s be real for a second.. if it wasn’t for whites supporting hip hop music, yours and mine favorite genre of music would of died along time ago and you wouldn’t of ever heard from your favorite rappers. We keep the lights on in this bitch whether you like it or not
i'm white and Bone Thugz N Harmony are my fave rappers of all time, Tha Crossroads my fave rap song of all time. But peeps in these comments are ridiculous. Who cares either you listen to Eminem or you don't... no denying the boy's got skill tho and is one of the best rappers/ lyricists of all time with all that he's achieved over a 25+ year career...
@NextMJ2 check it out ima play yo game. His point is (pay attention) that when Eminem came out, hip-hop was not being played on MTv. No black artist was "allowed" on MTV. Mtv being the most popular music channel on television. Benzino was upset because it took a white boy who could rap to get hip hop played or that channel. Benzino felt hip-hop was made by and for black people and it didn't need someone who wasn't to take it to another level. It hit different.
Beastie Boys were a punk band before switching to becoming a rap group. They saw the rise of hip hop while their own careers were going nowhere, so they jumped onto rap and instantly went Platinum.
They had first rate production. Can't count how many rappers sampled their vocals or beats. If you're questioning the beastie boys then you don't know much about the culture
I can't tell you how many yt folks said they didnt listen to rap before Em on top of them automatically shooting him to top tier solely ahows who they want to be the face of hip hop
I don't know if you're familiar with my channel but I'm from Detroit and have to tell you Benzinos 100% correct on why white folks got behind Em like they did AND that he not from here. It was a whole conspiracy to get him "accepted" amongst all these brothers and sisters. Detroit youth never listened to him in the hood. They preferred Blade Icewood, StreetLordz and CheddaBoyz...the forefathers of the modern day 'ratchet' Detroit style. And he's right, I say all the time how Detroit was this mecca for Black folk like ATL is now. Very accurate. And Eminem's PLANNED rise, WAS a calculated part of the symbolic takedown of this black mecca. And it's strange but I know the people don't care about it today, but that line he says where he complains that he's tired of ppl asking him questions/what school did you come from, what hood you grew up in .. it's because he has no connections to the city like that. Ppl don't know what high school he supposedly went to...which is telling. This is why Royce doesn't mention that he went to Oak Park High...also not a Detroit Public School. DPS makes you different lol
Eminem is one of my personal greatest rappers of all time. With that said, Benzino is still 100% right. I've talked to people who don't even listen to Rap that has confidently stated that Em is THE best rapper ever. No questions. And that's a problem. Yeah, Em can rap with the best of em (bars). But you can't deny that he has attracted too many casual fans of Hip Hop that don't respect the culture whatsoever. Just my personal opinion.
Why is it a problem. Isn't the best a subjective thing anyway. We can argue up and down for every artist about what merits being a GOAT and their is never a consensus which makes it a spirited debate.
Moved out the hood but not to a really rich neighborhood. When we first bought the house we never really checked or neighbors. We were just glad not to hear gunshots every night. Turns out we moved into a really low key racist area and the only rapper I've ever heard them play loud and proud is Eminem.
ZINO SAID EXACTLY WHAT IVE FELT ABOUT DUDE FROM THE MOMENT I HEARD OF EM. AND HE’S NOT THAT GOOD OF A RAPPER TO ME. HE DOESNT SUPPORT THE CULTURE AT ALL. AND HIS MUSIC ISNT THAT GOOD. ITS LAME, ITS BORING.
I find it funny how the Kid Rock story NEVER gets mentioned when discussing Shady! Both from “Detroit” - and both got suspect backgrounds! Kid Rock is just a full racist at this point! 🤦♂️
I watched a Kid Rock documentary recently and it’s bad. He is way way worse than Eminem. He flat out, showing his colors now after using rap to get on.
Did not listen to the entire interview ( as of yet) but Ray Benzino is making some strong points... Not sure about this one but Benzino might need his own show...🤔. Wait, wait , hold up (Let's get back to the rest of this interview)
So, I see a lot of hate for the West Coast in these comments, and it's quite ignorant and unfortunate. We Black Americans from Cali don't hate on the East Coast or anywhere else. And, when it comes to Rap, we welcome ALL , whatever we like as individuals, no prejudice at all. I don't understand all the hate some or most New York people have for California because we don't share the same sentiment. It's stupid. We loved Biggie, 2pac, Busta rhymes... even going all the way back to Whodini, nothing but respect. GOD BLESS
Canibus been slaughtered Marshall...Go back & listen to their diss track chronologically...If Em so hard let him battle Wu Tang or any of their affiliates(like Killah Priest)...He don't want it w/them NY brothas or Nas or Wise Intelligent...Definitely didn't want it w/Sean Price, DMX, Pac, Pun, and he didn't outshine on that Big joint either...just saying
I’m from the hood I listen to Eminem they don’t play nas in the club I listen to nas too we all have artist that we relate too depending on our moods with that being said if Em said a bunch of racist shit on a song 30 years ago I wouldn’t CARE we all racist and say and do fuck up shit in private one time or another in are life all Em ever wanted from the SOURCE was his Flowers MMLP and the Eminem Show where both classics deserved 5 mics ! Also Ben and Ja both said fuck up shit about a then 13 year old Haley both sides have been WRONG and to see both of them still beefing 20 some years later is bad for hip hop niggas in they 50s set a fucking example
Eminem never said he astablished rap/ hip hop. Thats some fans are sayin. Eminem is a fresh dope ass MC . Like it or not. Benzino ist mixing right history facts with lies.
If what he’s saying is true, which I believe it is, I’m with Benzino 100% & I can see why the industry has been doing wrong for so long, much respect Zino…
I liked Eminems debut album after that he lost me as a fan ,to me every album and song were hard to listen to.Made Men limited edition lis still a classic that I listen to this day.Benzino just summarised the whole Em situation pefectly for me.
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"Whyte people live for history. Black people live for the moment " -Benzino
Damn. That's a hell of a take on it.
Makes perfect sense why certain rap "fans" say he's the GOAT 😭😭😭😂🤣
@@elijahstraight402 When you say goat do you mean baphomet ?
@@BlackMusicGenre Greatest Of All Time- GOAT 😭🤣
@@elijahstraight402nawl em lie top 30 at the bottom 😊
@@elijahstraight402 Nah. Just in your mind .
Thank you for letting the man talk. Vlad would've cut and stepped on this clip at least 10 times
I completely agree with you.
Eminem was their great white hope and that’s why they gave him everything and took our face off of hip hop and put his face on it. It’s like how Elvis got everything from black musicians and then they labeled him the King Of Rock n Roll….
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@NIC_83that's call a fuckin "fact" !!
The thing is if you really know his history white record labels turned him down because he was white. They didn’t want no white rapper. Eminem is a very talented artist and one of the most talented rappers in history and that’s why he got his spot. Point blank. And our people hate that because he white and that’s just facts. Y’all acting like we not fucked up as well rapping about oversexualizing our women selling drugs to our neighborhood since the 80s but when a white rapper make it now we wanna unite and get political. God make sht a certain way for a reason
@zone1250 bunch of deflecting
@@getsugaallen6612 In what way is that deflecting? Are you confused about the definition of that word or the practice of "sidestepping probing questions" with answers not on point? The comment addressed the notion that somehow Eminem got made the face of hip hop out of some kind of plot from the nefarious industry to promote white supremacy and shaft black artists. That didn't happen. The industry rode the wave, but they didn't create/cause it and didn't work AGAINST black artists rather than try to make money off of EVERYBODY who could flow! Music is a sonic experience; it doesn't have a skin color. Culture also isn't something you can hold in your hands or put on some pedestal or shelf; it can't be OWNED because it's NOT a thing or static but rather a product of a dynamic process of exchange carrying forward existing traditions but altering them with innovations and creating combinations that lead to the new. You say black people created rock and roll and Elvis stole it, but the reality is a different story. They had a critical contribution, no doubt, and it did influence Elvis. However, you don't get rock and roll (and most definitely not hip hop) without drummer Gene Krupa, a musician of Polish descent who was arguably the best ever to hold the sticks!!! He was heavily influenced by the hot jazz and cold gin of his early years soaking up music in the jazz culture, but what he did was innovative and could not be replicated by most other musicians no matter how hard they tried and he worked to teach students who came to him--black, white, pink-and-purple-polka dotted didn't matter! They just couldn't play to his level and how he did, but they were still influenced by him and what he contributed in the technical aspects of percussion. Without that technical advancement in the set up of drum kits and inspiration he provided, there's no Dre, no hip hop, and not even rock and roll as we know those!
Going back to that hot jazz, it, too, was a fusion ironically born out of an attempt at segregation. When new Jim Crow laws codified separation of the different "races" of people (a made-up concept that doesn't exist), musicians who had been playing classical works of the great European masters suddenly found themselves having to play different venues with other musicians who played different genres. So, reading what happened as black people one day just inventing a whole new category of music is overly simplistic and flat wrong! Jazz came out of black experiences, but there was an awful lot of white people and tradition involved in that, too! For example, you don't get those jazzy arpeggios of ragtime piano without 19th-century composer and pianist Franz Liszt. He did two things of note for music, actually, with his virtuoso skills and contributions to composing and playing music as a pianist just part of his legacy. He also believed that music was for the masses, not the rich few. At that time, musicians usually practiced and climbed the ladder for years until they reached the level of getting a wealthy patron to support them. Liszt would set up a stage in crowded European cities and put on a show for all to hear. He was a real showman and pretty much the first musician we can find who triggered that kind of fan base we now call stans because of Em, with worshipping women losing their minds for Liszt like those who saw Elvis move his pelvis! So, who gets to claim to own jazz and rock? Do we just discount any white artists who made contributions to music and say black people invented all music genres since the classical era?!?
And just where do you see this cultural apartheid you want to impose ending? Should we remove Tiger Woods from contention as a golf GOAT and Hank Aaron over in baseball because those are white men's sports?!? Come on!
I agree with Zino, but let's not act like we don't say the same shit about our own people.
Stay on topic
Benzino need to stop
You a clown for ignoring everything he said
@@realtalk9854 I’m lost as to what he said ?
there is 1 reason why you agree... we all know why
My entire perspective on this whole situation is different now. I understand where he is coming from
How does it feel to get hoodwinked?...bruh
That’s cause u slow u should’ve been saw that
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white people are triggered
white people got triggered
Alot of white folks cheered on Eminem just because he white when they not even fans of hip hop at all. And to be honest alot of Detroit Black support/ take up for him over ither Black people because he quote unquote " From Detroit"
Exactly
thats bullshit
Benzino was cooking💯✊🏿
Katt and Monique proved that as long as your people have your back corporate America can’t keep their foot on your neck.
😂😂😂😂 the supreme court proves that false
Monique still complaining g
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Luckily, Benzino doesn't have a neck.
Monique played one of the worst blk American women stereotypes ever..she nor Kat did jack shyt they both not winning..
It's crazy cause when Eminem wrote that song against Trump a lot of his fans turned on him which kind of proves part of benzinos point they were Eminem fans but not because of Eminems talent
Thank facts the are fake ass hip hop fans
And what people don’t understand also is that a lot of his own kind don’t even like him even from way back when he came out they were shitting on him. Ppl keep saying white ppl only listen to him which is total cap cause he does have a good percentage of black fans that also like him, and those like Benzino who don’t like him makes them irritated
It's like that when any rapper gets political
Exactly. They shared the messages he presented in those earlier records. The violence he minimized is something they still hold onto. We’ve become unstimulated because of the music, they’ve become hostile and incel.
When em 1st came out, I called this, I refused to listen to him, was called a hater, and I proudly wore my hater hat. I trust my instincts, and I knew the fans he was drawing, don't even know our culture, but they sent that volture in to feast off it.
Kurupt was born in Philly, and moved to L.A. when he was 16. WC was born in Houston, and later moved to L.A. In the words of Rakim "It's not where you're from it's where you're at".
Exactly! 2pac was born and raised in New York and moved to Cali at 16 and claimed California not NY
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Same with Xzibit. He was born and raised in Detroit, moved to Cali, and the Likwit Crew took him under their wing. Tha Alkaholiks helped Xzibit in a big way, and he always reps Likwit Crew.
They’re black. Did they grow up around white folks and then change? Did they make racist white songs?
We still claim Kurupt, and Tupac original rap name is MC New York. You can claim where you are but you can't change history.
Damn I feel him 100’percent & gained a lot of respect for Benzino.
Get a thermometer and check for fever; it sounds like a bad case of flurona is messing with your perception of reality!!!
Facts
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Benzino on fire some rappers forgot about what hip hop is music ,community service, after success, arts, graffitti, beats and rhymes celebration, dance,djs ,rappers and shows, the list goes on thanks for the refresh of what hip hop is.
Benzino isn’t even hip hop tho… he’s a rapper that talks about gangster crap not about the elements! And any true Hiphop head knows it’s not about race and don’t care about ur race or color when ur at a hip hop event! (That negative energy he brings is not Hiphop!)
The early hip hop park jams were full of stick up kids and hustlers. Lol nobody was going to the jams promoting unity.
Em is a talented rapper but his style and subject matter in his music isn’t relatable to me. Benzino speaking real spill💯💯
Does it have to be
@@nathanharris3787 I think all hip hop artists wanna make music for the black community primarily those from inner city culture because that’s where it started. Your turn
@@justincoffey2692 Eminem dont have to make music for black people im black i listen to Eminem
@@nathanharris3787 what point are you trying to make? I see no point in what you’re saying! Did you hear me say that black people don’t listen to him no you didn’t! Majority of blacks from the hood if not all don’t listen to him. He obviously has a large fan base just the hood isn’t one! Benzino made great points about him
@@justincoffey2692 i guess but Em don't make music for the hood though tbh
Benzino know Eminem’s whole life story 😂😂😂😂😂
You beat me too it
Know your enemy
He's obsessed
@@LewisNwn basically
You have to know things about your enemy most people don't, so you can break them down.
Benzino is 100% on point. I've been saying this for 20 years now that YT ppl used Em to shyt on Black ppl. Their mission was to paint a picture that even though rap music/hiphop is a Blackman's castle, a YT rapper owns it. And guess what, it work for decades. I have been debating with my friends from my teenage era about this. It's to make Black ppl feel valueless.
If you actually know Ems history record labels did not want him because they did not want a white rapper. Y’all gotta chill with the race theories and conspiracies you think the white race as a whole conspired against black people instead of admitted Eminem was just a very talented artist
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Black males are weak. How is that white men's fault. Men conquer weak males, it's the game
@@zone1250Well homie if you look at the real history of America you'd understand why these theories come up with us Em is dope but I can still see what he's saying.
@@zone1250this is so right, Em was getting turned down left and right. Em’s did not get the respect because he was white. He literally opened the door for white rappers today
Benzino came thru with a very insight take on this eminem situation & hes right !!!!!!
Yep
I gotta admit Benzino made perfect sense in how he broke down his criticism of Eminem, this was a deep interview and every black hip hop fan should listen to it because some jewels 💎 were dropped here !
This thing here deeper than rap
LMMFAO it was nothing but hating a$$ babbling
Facts ❤️🖤💚
No this actually made no sense
@Qbell790 I know it don’t make sense for sure because you don’t make sense either
Benzino is right about MTV in the early 80's, they didn't play black music until Run DMC & Michael Jackson kicked the door down in the mid-1980's. 💯
Funny bc we made rock music lol they kicked us out our own stuff
Actually, both HE and YOU are WRONG! I notice there's a name you're royally mistaken enough to miss to parrot Benzino, who gets A LOT wrong! Here, it's omitting that name that's the BIGGEST in the 1980s as far as MTV, especially since he didn't have any existing fanbase to offer. Yet HIS music claims that spot of being the one to kick down the doors in 1982 (so early and not mid 1980s and nothing to do with MJ or Run DMC). See, kids like we were watching MTV originally were sure ready to party back then, like it was the future date of 1999, and we were all crying like doves the sign of the times ahead might mean the end of the world before we got our turn enjoying it! Then this guy with a guitar came along in long duster coats and high-heeled boots and made us all feel better about that as HE got the #1 spot for kicking in that particular door! Yes, critics like to credit MJ with making artistic films out of videos as the monster Thriller dominated the 1980s...but didn't really as far as this ONE rival, who had a claim to his own fabulously puple reign conquering that space and the charts with multiple albums!
@@csmith63no he's not wrong .just seen archives of David Bowie talking bout MTV slighting urban music on a interview. So u stop spreading your long winded misinfo
@@michaelallen8112 Did you miss the point?!? I think you must have. Who played the song "1999"? Who played "When Doves Cry"? It was NOT MJ and NOT Run DMC who kicked down that particular door! It was freaking Prince in his stiletto boots! HE was the one who kicked in the door and got the barriers dropping! Now, his rivalry with MJ meant we got a lot of good videos, and "Thriller" with its Vincent Price intro and Rick Baker make-up effects was must-see TV anytime it was on, but playing ping pong at Paisley Park to reigning supreme with his movie-length masterpiece video that was Purple Rain, it was Prince who got there first! So, learn to read, and stop spreading incorrect "facts," which was EXACTLY my point about Benzino! He can't even get the story of "the culture" right at the basic facts level--perhaps because he never bothered to read anything longer than a cocktail napkin before trying to play magazine mogul for making Mays' The Source a loan for a partnership title and then helped run the journalists who could research and write to the parking lot and publication into the ground! I'm glad you can stream some history, but you might want to try reading it sometimes, too, to put more than soundbites of information in there.
@@csmith63THAT'S BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW IT! MTV NEVER PLAYED BLACK MUSIC UNTIL MICHAEL JACKSON AND RUN DMC KICKED DOWN THE DOWN THE DOOR IN THE EARLY 80's! 💯 IT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE HISTORY BOOKS! 💯 HELL, THEY EVEN HAVE DAVID BOWIE EVEN SPEAKS OF THIS! 💯
This was on Point, Benzino. You've pretry much been saying the same thing for awhile. Now that the noise has died down, people now hear you
“ white America gets angry when you talk about the past, because they just want it to go away” ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The don't " address the elephant in the room " 😂🎯🎯
😂😂😂 look to jar
Naw they get mad when people start asking for reparations like they suffered thru slavery. At what point do people just move on and stop crying and begging 4 hand outs
@@tylerl3510 If you elders worked at a Fortune 500 company built it on there backs and got nothing for it was tortured, raped, and beaten then all of sudden got let go from the company and was promised and lawfully told they were gonna give them 40 acres and a mule then proceeded to give it to them an then take it back and I’m just giving you small details of the genocide that took place. My question to you is how would you feel and what would you do?
@tylerl3510 the government literally gave y'all hands out not us , look it educate yourself.
this was a great breakdown by benzino. after this interview I respect son even more. word up
Benzino been sayin this lol but glad u learnin the truth now mate.
@@rainman1985Exactly, this is what his beef with Eminem has been about the whole time. I had those source magazines and I understood what he meant from the jump
It was all terrible lies
@@NextMJ2 how?? What lies??
@@GrinchyGreen334 99.98888% of it
He's not lying,em was getting that kind of praise even from blk ppl because he was yt and could really rap...We have our own culture when it comes to hiphop but we're always trying to bring in other races that doesn't resonate with our upbringing and struggles.....We've given hiphop away to yt ppl,u can imagine how many yt ppl actually bought em's albums vs blk ppl......they wanna be us until the cops show up
Doesn't resonate with your upbringing...huh. So, is it poverty, violence, rampant drug use/abuse/sales in the neighborhood, broken families with single mothers and deadbeat dads that doesn't resonate?!? It sounds to me like Eminem is rapping about a lot of those same topics I hear other rappers discussing! Sure, there are some differences, too. Marshall Mathers steps in and takes accountability for any bits of Slim Shady that leaked from the rap persona into the real world. He owns up to his sins openly and rectified them. Yet, ok, let's talk about what happened when the cops showed up in their lives. Which one had a black woman call 911 because of the physical and mental abuse she was enduring at his hands? Which one of them threw around racial slurs at the police when stopped for drunk driving?!? How did Eminem cause all of that?!?
I'm from Michigan. Eminem can spit but his music didn't hit with the culture. I was in highschool when Eminem was at it's peak .
I've never heard his songs get played at a prom, house party, in the car with the beat in the trunk riding down the street,
not at a family reunion, a wedding, a smoke sessions, etc. 8 mile was fire though. We played 8 mile and Paid in Full back to Back
Same on the first part of your comment down in Miami. Nvr heard him at any function where Black Folk decided the kinda music to be played. Nvr heard nobody playing him out their car. Nvr been hanging with no group of Black People, friends or strangers, listening to boombox and one of’em buss out with “yo, check this new eminem sh*t”. It wasn’t happening then. It ain’t happening now. 🤷🏿♂️
I personally know this is BS, just people repeating as echoes what they keep in their filter-bubbled chambers to prop up their own egos. Yet I'd like to know how it is that so many rappers include him as an influence if they never heard him?!? Of course, that brings up the next point about this apartheid of visible and yet non-existent "race" you're trying to impose on sonic culture like you can own it and create separate zones with no one crossing color lines and put it on a pedestal at your auntie's house or some such place so no one else can touch it (which is NOT how culture works). So, with these comments, did you actually intend to come out here celebrating wilful ignorance of rap history and legacy?!? See, that truly insults "the culture," since it was black artists like Ice T and Dr. Dre who saw the potential in fusing that way?!?! Then Benzino out here NOW putting hands on women and throwing racial slurs, so where is the worst fault?!? It sure sounds like you're saying being black gives HIM a pass!
When yall gonna realize his fanbase is international!? Just like every major hip hop legend. State side is microcosm of those fanbases.
@@ahfimiwonawun Miami don't got the comprehension for lyricism. Only lyrical rapper yall ever had was Ross.
@@joshingram071 , indeed Miami is no paragon of lyricism. But anywhere, including Miami, had actual hip hop headz that loved lyricism, but none of us like lyricism to the exclusion of everything else. Thing is, you can name any Black Rapper and there are plenty of Black People who don’t listen to him and nobody has a problem with it. Everybody doesn’t listen to Jay-z and nobody has a problem with it. Everybody don’t listen to Nas and nobody has a problem with it. Everyone understands that we all have different tastes. Only eminem has to be listened to by everybody without exception or there’s some sort of injustice going on.
Eminem might not get no play in the hood but i also never heard nobody in my hood say "hey put that benzino on"
That’s true but I don’t think Benzino’s point is that he is better than Eminem.
That's not his point.
He would be Cannabis..
His point goes deeper than just Eminem
@@carriesmith7843 What's his point? That you can't afford the Tombstones when our Babies are shot up due to your Drill & Gangster music? Still worried about a little white boy rapping 25+ years later?
Bro, your videos are gold.
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People mock Benzino, but he knows what time it is! His word is valid. He helped build Hip Hop & they've tried to destroy his legacy.
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Would that be his legacy of violence against the women he claims he defends?!? Would that be the legacy of being a deadbeat dad jealous of his own daughter?!? HIS actual legacy is that he HURT hip hop and then destroyed HIMSELF!!!! He did NOT found The Source, and it lost all credibility because of HIM! That's it. Those are the facts of the case. Done. Toast. Femzino finito!
i've been riding with benzino on this for over 20 years, everytime i say benzino was right, it's always somebody trying argue me down
@@marcelbey-el1947 Take the hint then. He's WRONG--in every way! People who hate on Eminem and so don't listen to his music have no idea he says the worst thing Marshall Mathers ever did was to put his hands on a woman...ONCE! It was when Kim was cheating and they were in the worst part of the whirlwind. She put hands on him more than once with him just disengaging, but ONE time he got physical and is still guilty over it and has reflected on it, recognized it for what it was, and admitted it quite publicly. Benzino is out here saying he's defending black women, but what is HIS record for how women get treated?!? He beats them. He uses slurs with them. He undermines his own daughter's career! He was just out there talking some trash about how black women don't know how to behave because no one is teaching them the proper way to be a lady instead of getting all emotional--BENZINO saying that!!!! So, if you're riding with Benzino, I hope you got the window seat jammed in that little car with the people who have floppy shoes and big red noses on!
He did that himself 🤣
We allow so many folks into the culture but most of those folks wouldn’t allow us into their culture.
Benzino spoke Truth period!💯
I hear you
He's right about that i been saying that for years blacks don't listen to Eminem's music, we can't relate to it, he raps about crazy white boy things.
We’ve all been saying that. That’s nothing new
Lies
@@NextMJ2 -Hurt by the truth
Your so gangsta 😂
I’m black and Em is my favorite rapper
I’ve met an abundance of white people who don’t like rap however they’ve said that they like Eminem 🤷🏽♂️
And that makes him goat or sum 😂😂😂 ?
Lol
@@jcchambers7896 my comment went over your head. Way over your head🤦🏽♂️
Same
Same here I've witnessed it. No lies are being told ppl just hate to admit the truth I've met some as well
Did benzino not give his own album 5 mics in the source? After that his integrity has been compromised for me.
4.5 mics
Tons of "Made Men" advertisements too. They were trash.
.. if yu owned a magazine, you’d do the same for your affiliates, the same as every other network and broadcast entity ..
And Dave Mays wrote the article under a pen name. Facts matter
That album was hot garbage too The source mic ratings used to be SO regarded; Illmatic became so huge after it got 5 mics...used to be huge accomplishment. But benzino and mays ruined it
He speakin facts.. im Black (Aboriginal Australian) and hip hop was a big thing in our community from the mid 80s . We had break dance crews and rappers... We could relate to what was being said on the tracks from the U.S.. white people in Australia would mock it and call it black rap crap.. but when eminem came.. everything changed.. we had white people in Australia thinkin they was more hiphop then us 😂 it felt like we was being colonised all over again
Thank you brother.
Wow the nerve of them Neanderthals…stay back bro
That’s interesting. I can see that happening.
Damn I didn't know that
💪🏿💯 we're stronger together! Thank you for the information.
Eminen been dissing young girls, women for no reason, he been picking on Mariah Carey for years.
aww did that hurt yo weak ass feelings?
Have you ever heard how black rappers talk about women in their songs?!? Go listen to "Gold Digger" sometime.
@@csmith63 The Kanye West record? That track is about gold diggers, specifically. lol.
@@juuglord8509 Yes, it is--in quite a misogynistic way given the view of women it presents! It's called stereotyping for a reason, including the issues of race, because as he points out, when BLACK MEN get enough money, they prove they've made it by getting a WHITE WOMAN! I don't hold that against Kanye, generally, because I'm not a racial hypocrite who thinks/says only white rappers talk shiite about women while ignoring what black rappers do! I also can separate art and artist, although Kanye and Kim Kardashian kind of prove his point. If one actually pays attention to what is in Eminem's music, there's always a clear distinction between Shady, the rap persona Eminem, and the man Marshall Mathers. What he says about being fit to raise daughters resonates when you listen to how Marshall Mathers thinks/talks about women, his behavior in relationships where he admits mistakes, and being a father. How is Kanye's daughter doing these days?!? We know what Coi Leray has to say about Benzino, and we've seen what he abusively does to her, too!
This segment was better than Benzinos entire career. If he could’ve put this on wax he would’ve been a legend. Very deep and nuanced discussion. Should be required listening for Black people and hip hop fans.
He’s 100 percent correct! Peace Benzino
I’m grateful how everybody finally actually listen to what he’s saying , in this interview he finally articulates with logic n understanding,without the alcohol his perspective is quite clear 🏆🔥🙏
His perspective is just his perspective.
Welp, Benzino is very smart and articulate in this interview. Best I’ve seen from him. Dropped too much gems and facts too. Much respect OG 🫡
I've watched this interview 20 times over. Benzino talking str8 actual factual and whoever doesn't think so?? Are so deluded that they shouldn't even have a opinion on this subject matter. ✌🏾👊🏾💯
5:30-6:10 he’s speaking actual hard facts
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He been saying this for 20 yrs. Now ppl wanna listen smh
@@emiliorebenga443 it takes time for people especially people our people catch on. Really it timeline, for people to wake up outta a slumber.
Show me one black person who wants or ever wanted to be like Eminem? Go.... I'll wait ✋🏾
However, I can show you millions of non-black people who wants to be like, Cos-playing, imitate, mimic and straight steal black American Hip-hop culture. We are the CULTURE 🇺🇲
You said name one but I can name two and they so happen to be rappers and rivals go figure Tyler the creator and Hopsin
Lol he meant black people that are accepted because of their “hood image”, you know black people don’t accept those dudes, our culture chase that hood wanna be image
@stephenmiranda8262 Tyler the creator nothing like Eminem more like de la soul ect lol
@@stephenmiranda8262facts 👌💯👌💯
In an interview with GQ, Kendrick Lamar said, "I just wanted to rap like Eminem on my first two albums." Is he black enough for you?
I agree 💯 percent with Benzino. Thanks for the video!
pac from new york, not cali, premier from tx, not NY, alchemist from CA, not NY, Luda from IL, not ATL/GA, etc. etc.
So
@@mfjudge9212 You a dumbass.
@@mfjudge9212 cause Zino trying to make a point about Em not being from Detroit, even if he reps it. He's talking/rambling in circles about him being born in Missouri and living there from 1-10 then moving to Michigan..and for what? It's not some new revelation, and if the D supports him, as much as he reps it, who cares where he was born, or if he's outside of Detroit. For all the things to get at em about, this is possibly the stupidest. Will he get at Luda for not being from ATL? 21 Savage? Premier? Alchemist?
@@thecunninlynguist u just talking about it just to go against your black brother that's all. We all know about what you said. But the point is making is that em is a white guy who originally didn't come up with blackfolks like that. He low key a plant
@@ABMAB_ i heard what he said, still stupid.
I hate when people that were part of the problem destroying neighborhoods and then profiting from the stories they tell about destroying the community talk shit as if they care so much about the community they helped destroy
It’s because destroying their community no longer benefits them
They were blind now they can see. It's called atonement. Who better to fix the hood than those who were once enslaved and traumatized by it then survived to see the mistakes of their old ways
@@yachtboyzmusic8036what would you do if all your friends were being murdered and you lived in an area that was kill or be killed? And this life was passed down to you by the previous generation. Its easy to criticize people who are street, but you never felt the challenges they faced because you didn't grow up like that. By the time you're 12, you've already seen people layed out dead under white sheets that were your neighbors. That PTSD will make anybody mentally ill and be destructive. Add severe poverty and no positive role models..so yeah..you guys are just unaware
@@sabot4ge bro I’m from north Philly , spent all most 10 years of my life in prison and I’ve done everything you can think of while running the streets. I’m more than qualified to make the statement Ij made
@sabot4ge Demoncrats talking points! Stop making excuses! Dr Ben Carson came from the hood and became a great surgeon and many others! Making excuses for failure! Give me a break! How many people experience Jim Crow and make it, to become a nurse with, my father also, became a chemist, Living in the Jim Crow Era! Black people are their own worst enemy! Black people created this problem, but blame the white man 🙄🤦🏾♂️
He makes perfect sense he's the only one speaking the truth about this in the industry, we know what it is 🤔
Zino has a solid message ..
He's gonna get major backlash because he comes off as unstable in a lot of his interviews.
Just because he's saying something that sounds nice doesn't mean he's the good guy. This is the guy who has drugged his wife's underaged niece to have sex with him, and is deeply, deeply racist.
Be careful who you root for.
whenever he calls him MARSHALL, it makes me laugh. Because he is calling him EMINEM throughout this. But he is calling him MARSHALL purposely at points lol.
respect to benzino man, been riding with zino for over 20 years, he's been right on this m&m subject since day one💯💪🏾
He is 100% right.
Although he has great wordplay, Black Americans don’t listen to Em like that.
We can’t relate to what he rap about, that $hit don’t touch our souls.
Our cultural music isn’t based on wordplay, it is based upon our Black American experiences, our struggles, our culture, our political & social achievements and lineage, not wordplay.
CAP!
😂 go home. You're drunk.
Yea he should of had lyrics about shooting his own people and selling drugs in his community. Than it would of "touched yall souls" lol ignorant people everywhere
Well said
Tell that to Kendrick Lamar and see what HE has to say about that!!!
Benzino was spot on about Detroit and Michigan.
A true historian this man is. He speaks the unvarnished truth. Eminem needs to respect this man, otherwise Eminem disrespects us all.
Straight up homie
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Muppet @@bullymasterfamily
Facts 💯👊🏾✌🏾
I'm an ACTUAL historian, as in the kind with degrees, and I specifically did oral history as part of my specialty. No, he doesn't speak unvarnished truth and very little truth at all! It drove one of my profs flat nuts how detached the next generation was from the reality of the history behind them, and I'll never forget the preaching we got when he came in hot one night after an encounter with those booming stereo systems that got put into cars costing more than people's houses back in the 1990s. When there used to be straight up "No blacks allowed after sundown" and similar signs up across the South, they'd roll the windows down and turn up the radios as they drove through those places in the daytime as a kind of protest. Funny how no one ever mentions things like that when they're out here talking about "the culture" and those speaker sets blasting rap! Of course, that's probably because there's no such thing as "the culture" in the first place, which isn't something a person or group can OWN! Trying to impose apartheid on musical genres won't work, because such attempts at segregation NEVER work; humans have contact and interact in ways that can't be separated into strands. That's especially true of how jazz and hip hop formed, precisely because they combined several influences. No one is learning any history from Benzino, just repeating ignorance!
🙏🏽great explination benz
I see white ppl and some Indian dudes talking mess to blk ppl online saying blks are jealous because Eminem & Logic rap better and out sell every black artist in history. But when bring up Big L Big Pun Kool G Rap Rakim that’s the backpack 🎒 era of hip hop
No matter what people say about this Man, rumors don't negate facts and he spoke it 💯.
Born and raised in Michigan, he on point but the white people are very racists yo. Most of their kids that grew up with us and enjoy the culture are cool, but of course there’s still the ones influenced by their upbringing. And when Trump was in office, oh boy you REALLY saw them true colors come out smh. But yeah after moving away to Oakland and returning home, it’s crazy how I didn’t realize how majority white it is. I was shocked in my own hometown like damn 😂
Good interview keep them coming
That backdrop is dope af 🔥
If people can set aside their idol worship of Eminem and really really listen to the way Brnzino is breaking this shit down then you'll learn that he's spitting nothing but facts! But if you think small minded and hate the messanger for pushing the message then you'll never truly understand hip-hop in its entirety!
😳 *Wow! This whole breakdown was very well said. I honestly expected him to sound like a salty hater. But he came across as genuine, with a deep concern for our people.*
That's a negative friend. What you expected at is what you got just with a bunch of gibberish to mask that fact. I don't think em is no kind of racist and he not supposed to be expected to stand up with a fist up talking no power to the people talk. He a damn rapper who does love live and breath hip hop. I can't believe the amount of people trying to act like this dude ain't paid his dues and walked in the trenches to get where he is. Listen to him when he gives treach from naughty by nature his flowers and talks about how he literally wanted to quit rapping because of him and how proof told him not to stop. He one of the only rappers I do hear who gives homage and lays respect to those who came before him and it's not fake respect that's the thing. He recites the actual lyrics he came up on and admired. You hear the hardest spitters give him his props and let's you know he's not to be played with lyrically. But then these guys like benzino who have had success and squandered it off just hating and acting like em is where he is because he's white. It's just ridiculous. Ok look if you want to see Benzino for real and you like this narrative then go watch his 4 drink champs sit down and then tell me he just ain't no Em hater and to many other artist. Go watch that then come back here. This dude wild. I see him on drink champs acting a straight bafoon coming off like he trying to capture the wave of Charleston White. Uhhhh knock it the hell off.
@@ruffnreadybeatz7349Well said! That's facts!!
Thank you so much Mr Benzino 🙏
Great dialogue with Benzino, definitely a new side of him I didn't know. as far as the other points he brought up about culture, and collective, he's partly right in terms of psychology, philosophy, sociology and epistemology. Some deep and some broad points on the bigger picture there in history.
Also Benzino got hate comments from the white fans, from the Eminem STANs that are about 1oo an hour? that's like 2,4000 troll/hate comments a day! That's like 168,000 hate/troll comments a week roughly!! That's approximately 696,000 hate/troll Comments a month!!! That's about 7,326,000 hate comments a year!!! How does he handle all that hate???
Benzino is speaking facts 💯
He makes a valid point 🤔
They didn't put Eminem with D12. They are actually his friends. Proof was actually his best friend. I'm from Detroit I've seen it with my own eyes.
So true , I go through this ish EvryDay 💯
I have to say that for the most part, I fully agree with the man’s opinion about why Em’s still so highly regarded. He’s right, no one’s followed up to take the white emcee torch 🤷🏾♂️
I’m from the hood and I listen to Eminem. Been a fan since day 1 🤷🏾♂️
Liar
@@fitzanderson1980😂😂😂
You a real one bro!
@@fitzanderson1980Bum!
@@fitzanderson1980exactly! 🤣🤣
Dope interview 💯🫡
Damn near impossible to disagree with anything he said, in this particular part of the interview 🤷🏾♂️
Sorry to burst y’all bubble but let’s be real for a second.. if it wasn’t for whites supporting hip hop music, yours and mine favorite genre of music would of died along time ago and you wouldn’t of ever heard from your favorite rappers. We keep the lights on in this bitch whether you like it or not
MTV Raps.
Literally disagreed with everything
Fax
Yet look at how many Black folk still denying the truth he spoke. We sick.
Am black and i dont listen to Eminem.
i'm white and Bone Thugz N Harmony are my fave rappers of all time, Tha Crossroads my fave rap song of all time. But peeps in these comments are ridiculous. Who cares either you listen to Eminem or you don't... no denying the boy's got skill tho and is one of the best rappers/ lyricists of all time with all that he's achieved over a 25+ year career...
thats why you gotta be sober zino you killeddd that shit with FACCCTSSSS that has to be the best interview ive seen from him
Great interview….
Damn Benzino you changed my whole perspective on Marshall
People can’t fathom the truth ..especially when benzino speaks facts
Damn. Had to see this ish again. Zino 💯💯
All facts what da big homie said, benzino has a a lot of wisdom ✊🏿❤️💎💪🏿🙏🏿💯💎🫡💎
He's not wrong.
I'm one of the biggest Eminem fans but I must admit he kinda got a point.
What point did he make
@@NextMJ2 watch the video
@@MikeMosesTV I’ve heard everything he’s ever said… what point did he make?
@@NextMJ2 He made alot of great points, especially about the racial double standards within music. 💯
@NextMJ2 check it out ima play yo game. His point is (pay attention) that when Eminem came out, hip-hop was not being played on MTv. No black artist was "allowed" on MTV. Mtv being the most popular music channel on television. Benzino was upset because it took a white boy who could rap to get hip hop played or that channel. Benzino felt hip-hop was made by and for black people and it didn't need someone who wasn't to take it to another level. It hit different.
This was a good lil interview
Yo MTV Raps was way before Eminem and Dre put him on, what is Benzino's issue with him?
Beastie Boys were a punk band before switching to becoming a rap group. They saw the rise of hip hop while their own careers were going nowhere, so they jumped onto rap and instantly went Platinum.
Smart move
Good and they are dope
Smart move but low-key fake idk someone enlighten me
They actually did it in a sarcastic type of way. As in just messing around but they hit lightning in a bottle
They had first rate production. Can't count how many rappers sampled their vocals or beats. If you're questioning the beastie boys then you don't know much about the culture
Thank you for allowing this man to speak uninterrupted. This was a history lesson from one of the O.G. of the culture.
Very insightful. He is speaking very wise words.
I can't tell you how many yt folks said they didnt listen to rap before Em on top of them automatically shooting him to top tier solely ahows who they want to be the face of hip hop
I don't know if you're familiar with my channel but I'm from Detroit and have to tell you Benzinos 100% correct on why white folks got behind Em like they did AND that he not from here. It was a whole conspiracy to get him "accepted" amongst all these brothers and sisters. Detroit youth never listened to him in the hood. They preferred Blade Icewood, StreetLordz and CheddaBoyz...the forefathers of the modern day 'ratchet' Detroit style. And he's right, I say all the time how Detroit was this mecca for Black folk like ATL is now. Very accurate. And Eminem's PLANNED rise, WAS a calculated part of the symbolic takedown of this black mecca. And it's strange but I know the people don't care about it today, but that line he says where he complains that he's tired of ppl asking him questions/what school did you come from, what hood you grew up in .. it's because he has no connections to the city like that. Ppl don't know what high school he supposedly went to...which is telling. This is why Royce doesn't mention that he went to Oak Park High...also not a Detroit Public School. DPS makes you different lol
Eminem is one of my personal greatest rappers of all time. With that said, Benzino is still 100% right. I've talked to people who don't even listen to Rap that has confidently stated that Em is THE best rapper ever. No questions. And that's a problem. Yeah, Em can rap with the best of em (bars). But you can't deny that he has attracted too many casual fans of Hip Hop that don't respect the culture whatsoever. Just my personal opinion.
Why is it a problem. Isn't the best a subjective thing anyway. We can argue up and down for every artist about what merits being a GOAT and their is never a consensus which makes it a spirited debate.
There are indeed people who say "I don't like/listen to Rap but I like Eminem" and I met a few of them, won't deny that.
Moved out the hood but not to a really rich neighborhood. When we first bought the house we never really checked or neighbors. We were just glad not to hear gunshots every night. Turns out we moved into a really low key racist area and the only rapper I've ever heard them play loud and proud is Eminem.
ZINO SAID EXACTLY WHAT IVE FELT ABOUT DUDE FROM THE MOMENT I HEARD OF EM. AND HE’S NOT THAT GOOD OF A RAPPER TO ME. HE DOESNT SUPPORT THE CULTURE AT ALL.
AND HIS MUSIC ISNT THAT GOOD. ITS LAME, ITS BORING.
Im white and i dont even listen to eminem. I would be embarrassed.
and you make no sense...
I'm born and raised in Detroit. The real Detroit, and I fuxk with Benzino. 💪🏾💯
I find it funny how the Kid Rock story NEVER gets mentioned when discussing Shady! Both from “Detroit” - and both got suspect backgrounds! Kid Rock is just a full racist at this point! 🤦♂️
I feel bad for liking "Born Free" sometimes... that was a great song, but man his racist sensibilities mess it up for me.
I watched a Kid Rock documentary recently and it’s bad. He is way way worse than Eminem. He flat out, showing his colors now after using rap to get on.
Did not listen to the entire interview ( as of yet) but Ray Benzino is making some strong points... Not sure about this one but Benzino might need his own show...🤔. Wait, wait , hold up (Let's get back to the rest of this interview)
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@KtotheG wassup I seen you before
24:36 - "White people live for history. Black people live only in the moment."
EXCELLENT LINE Benzino. And this is coming from an Em fan.
Live in the moment
Not exactly sure thats something to be proud of ..
thats a stupid quote by Benzino bro sorry
Raw truth
Benzino makes alot of sense I really hopes he keeps speaking out without him we would of never know the truth about Eminem
So, I see a lot of hate for the West Coast in these comments, and it's quite ignorant and unfortunate. We Black Americans from Cali don't hate on the East Coast or anywhere else. And, when it comes to Rap, we welcome ALL , whatever we like as individuals, no prejudice at all. I don't understand all the hate some or most New York people have for California because we don't share the same sentiment. It's stupid. We loved Biggie, 2pac, Busta rhymes... even going all the way back to Whodini, nothing but respect. GOD BLESS
Canibus been slaughtered Marshall...Go back & listen to their diss track chronologically...If Em so hard let him battle Wu Tang or any of their affiliates(like Killah Priest)...He don't want it w/them NY brothas or Nas or Wise Intelligent...Definitely didn't want it w/Sean Price, DMX, Pac, Pun, and he didn't outshine on that Big joint either...just saying
Damn exposed Eminem’s true nature…with receipts ,no wonder why Eminem is always short for words.
remain in denial buddy about eminem and his skill as a rapper/ lyricist and his success.. in the meantime I can rap better than this fool Benzino...
Great interview!!
THIS WHOLE INTERVIEW....... FACTS. BENZINO ONCE AND FOR ALL BROKE THAT SHIT DOWN 👏 👏
I’ve been saying for years Em gets no play in the whip. I would ride out to a silk the shocker album before Em. And that’s real talk
You a clown 🤦♂️
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it ain't your fault
I’m from the hood I listen to Eminem they don’t play nas in the club I listen to nas too we all have artist that we relate too depending on our moods with that being said if Em said a bunch of racist shit on a song 30 years ago I wouldn’t CARE we all racist and say and do fuck up shit in private one time or another in are life all Em ever wanted from the SOURCE was his Flowers MMLP and the Eminem Show where both classics deserved 5 mics ! Also Ben and Ja both said fuck up shit about a then 13 year old Haley both sides have been WRONG and to see both of them still beefing 20 some years later is bad for hip hop niggas in they 50s set a fucking example
Eminem never said he astablished rap/ hip hop. Thats some fans are sayin. Eminem is a fresh dope ass MC . Like it or not. Benzino ist mixing right history facts with lies.
stop ignoring the truth white boy
If what he’s saying is true, which I believe it is, I’m with Benzino 100% & I can see why the industry has been doing wrong for so long, much respect Zino…
I have alot more respect for you homie after listening to this!!
I liked Eminems debut album after that he lost me as a fan ,to me every album and song were hard to listen to.Made Men limited edition lis still a classic that I listen to this day.Benzino just summarised the whole Em situation pefectly for me.
Listen to his Hangmen 3(his production team) album. Shits fire my G💯👌🔥
good for you