Paul Mooney Warned Us About 'Tyler Perry Movies' - CH News Show
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- hypersclub.com/ - Before his passing, Paul Mooney was known for his outspokenness and appeared to be aligned with many who criticized the direction of Tyler Perry's films. Now as Perry gets ready to release another film, 'Divorce In Black', many black movie goers once again would show concern about Perry's movie-making formula. For a new episode of 'The Comedy Hype News Show', host of the 'Yeah We Talk Like This' podcast, Laugh Luv and Steve Brown debate about the topic with host Symphony Thompson. Instagram: @ComedyHype & Twitter: @ComedyHype_
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You've seen one Perry movie, you've seen them all..
Even Alex Cross......or did you even watch it 😂😂😂
This is the premise for every movies he's made in the past. I swear his work is rinse and repeat.
@@DevDaMan So true.. No rinse, just soak in the same water forever.. I must admit, they were interesting at the beginning, but as he said, I can do bad all by myself..😖
Same predictable outcomes time and time again...Mea Culpa! Lol
@@fyreleomh1896Lord no.. when I saw he was acting without a moo-moo and wig, I laughed.. when I read the reviews, I laughed even more…🤣
RIP Paul Mooney
RIP Richard Pryor (IYKYK)
The internet was ready to string up Paul two days before he passed
@@charlesmiller8299, Right!
RIP Paul Mooney ~ I forgot he was gone
damn really
You never have to ask what a Tyler Perry movie is about. I'll give a summary that applies to all of his films:
-somebody cheated
-someone does drugs or is abusive
-someone gets revenge
Wash, rinse and repeat
Black womens trauma porn for closeted men who hate them
Yes, so just seeing one of his movies was enough, it was thrash. He pays to get lay aways out at Christmas for those who shop at Walmart because unfortunately those are some of his viewers. I think thou as a parent I would be more concerned with what messages is he sending to younger people as a black person.
@@Thepharcyde4ever and when there is nowhere else for his storyline to go to twist. and twist again.
You forgot going to church and forgiveness is not for them, but for you because if you stay mad, then they keep the power.
Paul Mooney passed away on May 19, 2021. Continue to RIP!!
❤❤
didn't know that he had passed..rih. love you always
Educated black men are always the villains in Tyler Perry movies 😂
ALWAYS
You forgot rich dark-skinned black men are always the villains in Tyler Perry movie
SOMETIMES it's a woman 🤔👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@evonza4858once so stop it
@@Deriv44 dark skinned black men with money as well
Ironically, Perry got filthy rich showcasing black culture and struggle while elevating a negative, stereotypical image at the same time 🤔
And black people bought into it just like sexy red it's gotta be a machine pushing this marrat8ve and not allowing black positivity to shine
Tru.
Hollywood loves hypocrisy
Just like rappers
So y’all just miss all the positive outcomes of all those movies! Which DONT happen in real life!! Too busy trying to to hate on him and miss the bigger picture!! Smh forget all the BLACK ppl he jobs! Crazy
We are not a monolith as a black community. Black folks do want something new, and we’re doing just that!
Not enough I’m tired of all the slavery movies I want positive feel good happy movies! We deserve that!
@@michelleelmore3974 Give an example of a feel good movie you would like to see that us black people will spend money on.
A successful Black couple moving in the correct order. Black believable action movies, Black children cartoons. Black heroes.
@@IsaidwhatISaid914 Exactly! If it can be done with every demographic why can't we spend a LOT more time in the positive aspects of our journey in the Black community?! We all have different struggles in our community and as one said on this threat "we are not a fucking monolith" except they didn't use the f-word
Problem is, when something new *does* pop up we turn against it & them within a few short years. That train is never late. All it takes is for one of our favorite podcasters to say something asinine that they don't like about something, and our collective herd mentality makes us turn against even the most promising Black creators and artists🤦🏾♂️
Damn shame. But *it does* explain a lot though.
Claudine in 1974 was a film about poverty and hardship, but extremely positive. We need to get back to that.
Salute I agree. James Earl Jones before Darth Vader 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great movie .. watch every chance I get
Legendary Diane Carroll
When spike Lee was calling this out years ago, y’all told him to shut up and stop hating. Tyler Perry told him to go to hell. Oprah acted aloof as of she didn’t know what he was talking about.
Right, they told Spike he was jealous
Bit when Spike was popular back in the late 80s early 90s he had his share of backroom politics when it came to dealing with black actors, besides Denzel Washington and a few other actors he really never gave any opportunities to them, and instead of criticizing Tyler he should've took him under his wing and mentored him.
Spike called it buffoonery, because the comedy aspect was way over the top, and silly, he wasn't talking about how Tyler portrays black men with stereotypes which are always evil and or the abuser
@@generalkhan5569 is Tyler Perry a man who is receptive to mentorship and feedback? We’ve been asking for a writers room and he refuses
@@deesudie your right, but I believe Oprah so clueless and money hungry she didn’t know what he was talking about. Just look at how many times her and her buddy gayle put their foot in their mouths.
Bill Cosby showed what could happen if you go to college. Watching that and The Different World put me in the position as one of the first people in my family to go
I am not following a man that drugged and raped women for decades.
I was definitely gonna say it's like the opposite of what bill Cosby did. He didn't like the perception he saw so he created something better so it can be done unless u lazy and settle for the easy money
Congratulations
Exactly those shows gave me hope and gave me a blueprint of what to expect being successful
And it was a hit so lav is just projecting
I think any negative portrayal of black people deserves the same criticism! Whether it's a rap song or a Tyler Perry movie! It's time we start showing our people and everyone else in this world! That black people can be doctors, lawyers and scientists, etc! We need to show the portrayals in entertainment, that mirror the true reality!
Rap culture is the worst thing to happen to black people. There are so many gifted black people in music - the composing, writing, and performing. But rap has permeated the whole society and it's not a good message for anybody of any race.
Such a great comment and SEVERELY underrated. I guess black folks have romanticized drama, bufoonery, ignorance, hypersexualization, etc.
TP movies usually have black doctors and/or lawyers
@@XeniasWorldyeah, the black men in his movies sometimes are successful, but he always portray them as abusive, womanizers, and psychopaths! It's too many hard working good black men in this world for him to portray us as the scum of the earth!
@@XeniasWorld 🙄🙄🙄 They only see what they want to see. Tyler Perry himself has played a single father with custody of his kids. An accomplishment black men whine and cry about being impossible because the courts favor women. This is the perpetual victim hood that people talk about and leads to us losing support. We sit around bothered by the wrong stuff. I really feel like all these people complaining, can relate to the so called negative light they claim is all that his movies show. And they feel like they are being exposed. Triggered!
Kendrick sells out every tour, 17 Grammys, and a Pulitzer. He's gotten commercial success through conscious rap
Kendrick is the exception. Name some more
Mos def, Nas
@@dstreet43 yes, exactly... My kids' favorite song is" I know I can" by Nas
@@Ishbikes Lupe fiasco, j. Cole. Nas, most Def, queen latifah, Black eyed peas, EVEN DRAKE, at one point in his career. Tupac was half and half, but still he's relevant 30 years later. I can go on if you want
@@willdavis3951 Drake conscious? Cmon man 😂😂
Paul Mooney never lies 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 we lost a legend
Yes we did😔
You all lost a man who was a homosexual who molested his friends son?
Agreed!
My favorite comedian 😊❤ R.I.P PM 🙏🏾💞
He told it like it was! RIP sir! 😎❤️
If you listen to enough of Mr. Mooney's material, he warned us about everything.
thank you. him and dick gregory.
Seriously…they told us long ago & it went over a lot of people’s heads.
Everything
Spike was told he was a hater 4 speaking about Tyler movies
Including Christ being Black.
Not a Tyler Perry fan at all and cannot remember the last time I watched one of his movies or tv shows.
Like Paul Mooney said, POSITIVE IMAGES.
Two divorcees playing future divorcees. Touché, Tyler Perry.
😂😂😂😂😂EXACTLY!
Money is the root of all…
& another divorcee (Richard Lawson) playing the minister. Coincidence or no? 🤔
Right
The movie look like it’s going to be good actually
😂😂😂
But we’ve always seen this type of movie before lol
And I haven’t watched Tyler Perry movie in a long long time so I guess I watched this one! Because of the actors
@@juju929 It's hard to find people who were never divorced in Hollywood.
Lav speak for yourself. I watch things with versatility and originality. Tyler can miss me with those struggle films. I never been in an abusive relationship. Never burned a man's clothes or slash tires. As a black woman his films offend me.
Thank you....his generalities are aggy
Like he said, Tyler couldnt have become a billionaire if a large segment of the community werent watching his movies
Black folks do more than struggle, and pray. It’s the same thing as seeing countless, identical movies and shows like ‘Power’ over and over and over again
UnLuved Lav needs to have several seats. His opinion was disappointing.
So don’t watch them
I spoke the same sentiment as paul Mooney to a girlfriend of mine. I said "why cant we just have a happy and goofy movie like the ones adam Sandler makes? Where's our black Adam Sandler?" She told me "black people aren't happy and that's not our reality". ABSURD
That would be Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy making the goofy good movie that's funny and they're good actors.
@@mariebrooks7341 i agree with that but they haven't been consistent in a long time. Adam Sandler releases a movie pretty much every year. Tyler perry is constantly releasing his garbage in some fashion every year.
R.I.P. Paul Mooney..the realest comedian🙏🏿👊🏿
Tyler Perry became a BILLIONAIRE by portraying these negative stereotypes. At some point, he has a responsibility to maintain. TP counts on his loyal fan base, and I feel that consumers beyond his fan base have a right to be mad about what he puts out. It’s 50/50.
Tyler Perry is a capitalist who is simply catering to angry people who have unstable relationships and irrational outlooks.
Unfortunately, it’s plenty of those type of people in the black community.
It can’t be helped.🤷🏾♂️
Black women his audience. They'll watch anything that has black men portrayed negatively.
@@lastsam9846exactly
So don't watch if ur not a fan WTF😂😂😂
@@SlimeNewsI won’t be watching 😊
He not wrong. I remember hearing this back in 2007. Back then it was thats TP casts Darker black men as the bad guy and the lighter skinned ones were the saviors. Also TP movies are made for Church goers and Chronic BET watchers. 😂
For prosperity gospel mega "churches"
Yall spin anything to make it fit the light skin vs dark skin narrative you’re obsessed with.
@@Lifendz ive said that too .IN FACT I believe that If every race / ethnicity of people on earth disappeared today EXCEPT for black people within 1-weeks time I guarantee you that the dark blacks would start FALSELY ACCUSING the LIGHT BLACKS of racial discrimination and be asking them to pay REPARATIONS .
@@LifendzIt's not spin, literally in this new movie The browner color Man is the bad guy and the lighter brown man is the good guy. That's not speculative, that's a fact!
@@Lifendz in the absence of white people some black people will make the lightest black into their white villian .
The industry controls what sales and what gets promoted.
yep and ounce you dig deeper into this you will find out who really runs the film and tv industry and this go's for any race of people , that industry as a whole is wicked if your not part of the "CLUB" and if your not you get the same treatment as Mo'Nique ,kat w etc.
As most things, the Tyler Perry movies perpetuated a small percentage of the culture, which the masses wants to make it a black thing it’s not a black thing. It’s a human thing that you’ll find in every culture in the world in some percentages.
I think Tyler Perry movies are a reflection of his own trauma he experienced in his childhood. Him growing up being abused and seeing his mother be abused has stunted his creativity in a sense. We can only create to the extent of our imagination.
I'm so tired of hearing about this trauma bullshit. Shit happens in life. It's how you learn to cope is what counts. You don’t get a pass because you experienced trauma. Please 🤨
@@edsson2648 Sounds like you need some healing so you don't have to cope. That's a huge problem in our community. No one is healing. Everyone is just bleeding all over each other. Very sad.
Your last line is life. Beautiful.
Or made-up trauma, in order to capitalize on Black struggles in order to enrich himself. Victimhood is real hot right now.
Thank you! He literally has said this a million times. People are unhinged in today’s society. Instead of not watching his movies, they tune in just to criticize everything about him and his work. Mental illness
The boondocks aired this out perfectly with Winston Jerome
The boondocks also REVEALED PROPHECY about alot of filth & shit in black American culture.
🤣
that’s why “Family That Preys” is my fav Tyler Perry movie cause its completely different than the other movies
Exactly I loved that movie and it had more actors with name recognition and other good acting credits for projects other than Tyler Perry projects. I like Tyler Perry HOWEVER, it would be nice if he did some stuff that is different than the stereotypical formula. Most of his movies mirror his plays. His movies and plays sell really well so it is understandable why he sticks with the formula.
@@bossman5792 Unfortunately the writing is shit! White people don't talk like that and black women, no matter how stressed don't talk to black men like that. It was a poor attempt at Perry trying to mix the ethnicities with his style.
@@mariebrooks7341 I dare TP to write a complicated movie with substance. Please get out of the hood. There are several other classes and environments to focus on!🤨
Imagine being two grown ass men, not understanding how to articulate the dangers of blaxploitation. My man’s basically said “if they addicted to smoking crack and the dealer getting money, we can’t be mad at him ! Be mad at the addicts!” 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ how about not bringing crack into the neighborhood 😂
That part
This! This!
It's rare to see a movie showcasing the black middle class of America
That would weaken the victim card.
Then make a movie showcasing the black middle class America.
@@theultimatenewplayer9341
I wish. Not a producer or director
@@daryl-anthonymitchell6786 there barely is a Blk middle class. Just about 70% of all Blk households of 4 make less than 65k annually and Less than 10% make over 100k. And it’s been that way along time.
Why no one made a movie about black wall street before they destroyed it.
R.I.P PAUL MOONEY, MISS HIM
WE THE ONLY CULTURE THAT DOWN EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF JUST BEING HAPPY.SAY WHAT YALL WANT TYLER PERRY IS TRULY A INSPIRATION.
Paul Mooney is spot on. There needs to be more positivity in our culture. I won’t be seeing this movie but shout out to people that do.
More positivity? Like what? What do you specifically want to see?
Selling trauma to the black community because in his mind it is what Black people are suppose to relate to.
His writing format is cringe, all of the dialogue is strictly by script with no sense of naturalism with over the top characters(SUPER Protagonist & SUPER Villains) in his predictable 3 act structure.
1. The Introduction of the sweet & honest Woman or Man
2. Suffers heartbreak, setbacks and struggles horribly but a Superhero like perfect love interest (usually an Actor/Actress with sex appeal attraction) appears so conveniently.
3. Said Man or Women rises from the fiery ashes with their new profound love or happy ending.
People thought Spike Lee was hating when Spike Lee called it "Buffoonery", Spike gave us Movies like Malcolm X, Do the Right Thing, Crooklyn, School Daze, Bamboozled etc..Movies that drew thought and delivered messages.
Very interesting but GOOD COMMENT.
Tyler Perry is feeding his largest demo. It’s unfortunate, but if the movie is in demand, what does it say about black America?
State of union
I'm surprised that he hasn't made Madea goes into space. Madea Goes Back To Jail,Madea Gets A Man Madea's Daycare. Those would be great films if Madea wasn't doing the same thing over and over.
It says that our culture only cares about things that uplift us in theory but in reality, we really could give a shit less about things of that regard. I love my people but we hoop and holler all day long about how we don't have films or music that uplift our culture and the moment that something does come along that is positive for black people, we don't really support it or we scrutinize it greatly.
Black people have been saying for years that we want our own soap operas because we are not represented greatly on the current ones that are on the air. We had "ambitions" and "our kind of people" air within the last few years and those were black nighttime soap operas and both of them only lasted one season.
Black people have been saying for years that we want music that is more positive and more cultured.....Andre 3000 comes out with a flute album and he is immediately crucified by this community.
Black people have been saying for years that we want television that tells our story and the history of our culture. We get a show called "Underground" in that regard and it's about slavery and it gets 2 seasons and it is cancelled and Oprah has the option to pick it up on OWN but declines because she says it's not "profitable". Meanwhile this is the same woman who has trashy reality shows on her channel and thinks that's what the culture wants to see and thinks that the "story" of all black people.
The point that I am trying to make here is that black people will bitch and moan about wanting something good and positive and when we get it, we really don't want it. I think that the only thing that disputes that theory is when "Black Panther" was released. Blacks absolutely went wild for that film and we dressed up and showed out and were in the theaters for it on opening day. However the caveat of that is you know most of the writers room for that film were white or latina, so it wasn't truly a black film.
Tyler Perry's films are successes because of the black church. The man is a billionaire because church buses full of people went to his plays in the beginning of his career and supported him thereafter. Oh and if you know anything about being black and being in the black church, anything that you are told to do or that you hear is considered doctrine.
I honestly feel like until the black community really wants better and is not just wanting better in theory, we are going to keep dealing with shitty filmmakers like a Tyler Perry or shitty ass musicians like a Sexxy Red.
What makes you think his largest base are black? Yt people buy tickets to go see all Tyler perry movies
And his gross movie sales aren't really more than his budget. So why is he given a budget or any type of financial support from outside investors? Netflix gave him money for mea Culpa and he made money because he doesn't hire anyone.
I really loved this discussion. I did not know these two men before and they are great. I hope they will continue on Comedy Hype.
"Nope. Another movie, I was offended by" paul mooney
What was his name, probably Boy
Tyler Perry dounce us with a lot of dark trauma that needs therapy. Paul Mooney is right with his pov however dark secrets and traumas need to be exposed and not a secret. The secrets is what eats at our community up.
Right. Idk what PM was talking about saying keeping secrets quiet. Nah expose them that’s why ppl can’t heal
No more victimhood excuses.
@@rw2698 give me an example of victimhood excuses?
That may be but are his movies really helping or is he beating a dead dog. That also doesn't explain why he doesn't hire other writers or why most times his production quality is so low.
@@TheLoveweaver it is too much. He needs balance. Also, he needs writers for sure. Him trying to hog every project and gives us similar stories different cast is played and old.
5:10 I don’t like his analogy.
But who makes more money?... A chef of a 5-star restaurant or the CEO of McDonald’s.
Yes, the CEO makes more money but his product is trash. Just because a subpar product makes a man rich doesn’t mean it's good. That’s capitalism.
Yea that analogy aggravated me
Very interesting observation 🤔 2 more perfect examples of CAPITALISM! Nike Air Jordans ( $10 to manufacture ). Retail price for Nike Air Jordans ( $250 - $350 ). Dior women handbags ( $28 to manufacture ). Retail price for a Dior women handbags ( $2,800 ).
I don’t watch TP films but that Trailer looks like a quality production. Keep doing what you’re doing brother. I see nothing wrong with catering to your audience.
_The Boondocks_ take on Tyler Perry movies was spot on🎯🎯🎯
CH been blessing us with a lot of quality content lately, keep it up ✌🏾
I Totally Agree With Paul Mooney... Let's Have Some Balance... I'm sure the Acting is Great... However, We Have More Than Trauma To Sell ☮️
If you made a movie, what would it be about?
This new brother had all my support!!! He’s calling out the way it is!!! I hear you clearly 😮
This was soooo good…these are the conversations that our community should be having
Lav is basically saying, get ya bag as a businessman, culture (if it matters at all) is secondary. I'm sad that these perspectives still exist. When are we gonna put us first?? RIP Paul Mooney
Lav is a willing agent putting out false narratives for the ops. Nothing else to say. So supporting anything he does and watch him turn into a tp character....old broke down angry black man who got played by his own stupidity
Exactly. Crab in a bucket mentally at it's finest.
Tyler Perry is bigger than Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry is opening many doors and breaking barriers. And he mainly employs black people. There will be a generation of black filmmakers who get to do what they do because of Tyler Perry. He's going to make it easier for certain types of movies to find funding. His success shows that movies don't NEED to cater to a white audience. That's actually a relatively new concept. He is putting us first by not seeking crossover success and giving our talent a chance to shine in ways they traditionally aren't able to in white cinema.
He's been hurt by his father and other family members...so, it has taken a toll on his Creativity. Art mimics life and vice versa. Paul is an old client of mine. I worked with him before. Great and funny human being. Also, Paul came from a different era of I'm "Black and I'm Proud." And all directors can change the algorithm. Tyler may need balance
🤔
Not all of us feel the need to be a "united front". I'm not defined by my race, and will think independently. You can be proud of your race but don't fall for the groupthink at the same time.
And with that mind set that is why we are failing as a race. U can say “ I’m not defined by my race” as much as you want …white Mexicans Asians etc..say the opposite and that’s why they are winning and will continue
His mind needs to wander somewhere else. I know what that is when it comes to family trauma. Heartless to the point of death but my writing is my escape. What it is that I lack in this life I create an alternate one where I do have it. All that money Tyler Perry has he should be able to see the world and see how cultures interact when it comes to their own family instead of writing about a bunch of scandalous stories. Integrate that observation into your own writing. I'd get sick of writing that cringe worthy shit.
@@alphanomega2799black folks are the only one's who think they can rise above the circumstances of their own people.....while other group's like Arab's ,are building bridges amongst themselves ....you are 💯 spot on
Paul was very conscious.
I think we all go thru these changes Black and white !! I love Tyler because he looks out for his people!!
@@user-qu6xf6qd5h and you unknowingly are part of our problem. You clearly see the problem but as long as he does this little bit to give back he's absolved of his bigger sin. Save thing with the drug dealers helping to kill their communities huh? It's ok to sell this product that destroys my people as long as i give these turkeys out at Thanksgiving once a year. When are yall gonna stop being ok with accepting bs?
Tyler needs to just step into another movie genre. He's like the Lifetime channel for black people. 😂 🙏🏾
Lol, yup
Him,Denzel,Spike,Cube,Regina King,Eddie Murphy,Kevin Hart, oprah etc should all put their money 2gether & form their own & distribute. That way we get a variety
I was just thinking this
For SOME black people.. I never cared for his plays or movies. I’m old enough to remember when his plays first started.. they use to always play them in hair salons😂
@@APTTMHYforeverThey were annoying as fck!
I don't like all of his projects, but I ain't about to sit up and tell a lie, that movie look good af, I'm watching 😂
And you are part of the problem
@@louisianabiggdogg1154 dude I just said I wanted to watch a movie, it ain't that deep.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@atj10884yes it actually is. You maybe just don't like someone calling you out on your ridiculousness. You made the comment maybe trying to be funny but it didn't land.
@@leonsprings8517 or maybe I just want to watch the movie?
“What he’s feeding, I’m not eating!!!!
SOMEBODY TELL LAV LUV HE MISSED PAUL MOONEY’S ENTIRE POINT. LAV luv’s opening statement was VOID of CULTURAL
Responsibility!
Im over even saying Tyler should do this & that. I say the powerful wealthy blacks should team up & form their own company ; dustribute also. Dude has a whole studio
“He be having them episodes”😂😂 “I’ll knock him into factory reset” 🤣😂🤣😂
Tyler Perry should've never played Alex Cross, according to the novel,Blair Underwood should've played Alex Cross. I would LOVE to see movies about black Women like: Matleta Jones , Sarah Goide , Biddy Madison, Marian Croak, Mary Jane Patterson and Marie Van Brittain Brown. So sick of seeing us as slaves , Maids Momma's and Mammies. We are so much more than a Tyler Perry movie.
Tylerbperry having a wife was already unbelievable
😅😂😅😂@@dominiquejones3805
@@dominiquejones3805 He was actually married before.😅😂😅
Speaking of Alex Cross, I felt that Omar Epps would have been a BETTER FIT.
@@freddy8479 Another Good actor who would've smashed that part.
I am so glad that more people are speaking out about that man's "content", for years I felt that I was the only one rubbed the wrong way.
Paul Mooney was onto something when he said they see us. It’s not acting. It’s like reality TV. That’s why I told my manager Agent to stop sending me out for certain roles because there is some validity behind those words.
Tyler Perry, like Hollywood studios, sticks to what works. If a formula succeeds, they repeat it until it no longer draws audiences. For example, rap music faced industry disdain until gangsta rap's profitability changed attitudes. They won't alter a profitable formula. Could they support less negative portrayals? Yes, but it's not in their immediate interest. This pattern is evident in everyday life: grocery stores stock popular items, even if they lack nutritional value, because they sell. Businesses prioritize profit over societal benefit. It's Bad Capitalism when your product is designed to kill your customer.
INTERESTING OBSERVATION 🤔
Tyler Perry is a business man and provides a product. If enough products aren’t purchased then the product will change. He is doing what he is supposed to do. Ultimately the consumer controls the narrative.
He has said this. He had been trying to stop doing Madea for years! He said that the people keep asking for it.
Ok but if he controls it he has the power to change it no matter what he’s a billionaires, I will not be worried about losing New fans. He’s a billionaire. Let’s not trying to make excuses for what he’s doing to us like why not showing a positive black movie with a black family making it through life without negativity we do have a lot of those people too as again he shows a negative stereotype of Black people being abused people being cheated on this not just black ppl Every other race too. Why is our race the only one showing it . Rather his fans like it or not we still got other people here who don’t go through who have ever been.
@@missdiva2youlies. What people? He wanna keep putting on that dress
PR is a helluva drug. The mind is an easily manipulative muscle depending on one's upbringing. People are not used to good because we tend to be ok with the bad and say "well people watch it". Change what's available and you change people. Condoning BS does not make it right.
People ain't buying it. It's obvious he's being propped up by the establishment.
This was a great discussion!!!!
I am proud to not have know this movie was even happening until this channel promoted it.
This so-called writer, director, producer gets on my last nerve.
If I see one more negative portrayal of black men, I'm going to scream.
He is not the only creative.
Edit: I wanna debate the fist speaker. He is wrong on many counts.
Right the boondocks writer is creative and spot on
I am so glad you said that because I was thinking the same thing.
Frfr, weird azz dude
Interesting observation 🤔
Yeah like the new color purple🤦🏽♀️ the first one was ok BUT that second one🥴😩😐 all the men were either pedo/molesters, women beaters, cheaters, cowards, weak, drunks, arrogant, etc the list goes on… disgusting movie
Yes LL is telling truth. Exactly why everybody boppin to "not like us" but overlooked Black Panther soundtrack with better beats, lyrics & content for the culture as a whole
can’t blame people for consuming negative shit because that’s what gets promoted/pushed in our faces…you have to actually search for positive content…we just want it the other way around,promote positivity and let us search for negativity
You're speaking generally just as he was trying to put all black people in your little box of what you experienced. See the problem with making a broad brush stroke statement is it just sounds ridiculous. You can't say everybody because you can't possibly know that everyone did what you said they did. Make your statements more personal and talk about the small percentage of people you've encountered.
Yall also fail to be able to explain your stance when making your points about why one positive form of medium is not as popular within black communities opposed to the negative forms of media. You're just telling one side without giving the full picture.
Btw the black panther soundtrack was made back in the 90s but you're wanting to compare that to something so recent as not like us??? You pulled that one straight outta your 🍑
I have never in my life related to a Tyler Perry movie.
Enjoy when the commentators are together sharing in the topic. Great vibe!
Dadddys little girl was positive
I think the family that preys together was good, too.
The BASE was the same.
Thirty minutes into that movie, you knew exactly how the story would end. Predictable.
Alfre & Kathy delivered. 2 me all his stuff is surface level
I’m still not gonna watch a positive Tyler Perry movie. His movies aren’t for me
This Was a great conversation..
I AGREE 👍
Every slave has a master. Right?
Great content fellas, you two need to start a pod.
Tyler Perry loves to make black men a villain in every movie and they just happened to be dark skin. It’s so sad that other directors can make films that don’t have us out as the bad guy all the time but the brother in the interview made a good point, Tyler Perry movies aren’t for me
Art imitating life?
@@RocanalaSome lives, not all.
No @@Rocanala
Is that what this new movie is about???? Ugh! Some of these scenes are traumatizing
What’s baffling about this is everybody trying to tell a billionaire what they THINK he should be doing..Tha nerve..😏
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Really enjoy these conversations ❤❤❤
I’m still gonna watch it.
Nobody cares
Steve is on point.....
AS BLACKFOLK…WE WILL SUPPORT ANYTHING!!!
This was a great debate
Who supports Tyler Perry movies? Maybe that's the problem!
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Black women over the age of 40
thesupervisor3270, not this black woman over 40… I never watched any of his tv shows, only seen one play because it was a family event and my mom purchased the ticket, and only 3 of his movies ( “why did I get married”, which was fine. The other 2 I can’t remember but Madea wasn’t in it because I don’t support drag/men in dresses)
It depends on how they view family dynamics.
Yeah We Talk Like Podcast!! OGs!! So glad to see these veteran comics making their rounds. I hope to see more of them on Comedy Hype ❤
We up baby!!!!
This is sent with Nothing but Love💕❤️Ya’ll
To the brother in the hoodie (and I can't believe I have to make this argument) just because it makes money doesn't mean it's high quality. We're accepting Spam when there's Fillet available
Awesome content. It’s dam if you do dam if you don’t. Truth be told Tyler Perry movies are what’s happening in some black families and we as a community can relate to it from a family situation or a family friend. The pressure shouldn’t be on Tyler, it should be on us as a community.
That's the problem right there. Yall seem to think this bs is relatable too ALL black people and that's simply not true. So do you not see how your statement kinda goes along with putting all blacks in a sterotypical box? You said it's something WE can relate to.... nah bruh maybe you but not me.
@@leonsprings8517 Where in my statement do you read I said all black families? Did you miss the word some? That excludes you and yours. Be blessed, stay blessed.
Somebody is watching the movies though. His movie genre is drama and sometimes comedy. He writes and produces what he's good at writing and producing. He probably can't expand past this. It is what it is. Doesn't impact my life any. They're just movies.
Exactly. Someone is watching his movies.
Just because something makes millions doesn’t make it good. Lots of terrible things make millions. 🤯
Love this conversation with these two men ✊🏿✊🏿 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿👑👑
He made this movie again 😂
Tyler Perry as a black man and especially being a very successful black man, does have a responsibility to HELP clean up the image of black people, but to also lift the moral of our people by making movies that show us solving our problems in a brilliant way, as Bill Cosby did
(love him or hate him).
It also needs to be incorporated in some of his movies the hidden racism that still exists for black farmers and for blacks looking for loans to possibly build a fortune 500 and or advertisements that helps their streaming services or broadcasting platforms.
Though not merely as victims, because we've seen enough of that also. Moral of the story is, we black folks must find a way to change our values for the better. Not just on an emotional level, but on a tangible spiritual and cooperative economic level.
Respectfully disagree. No movie producer can do that nor should be burdened with that type of responsibility. It starts with all of us walking the right path. No one is responsible for someone else and cleaning up images. You can only do you. Rap music casts a MUCH DARKER light on the black community but not enough people stand up to this filth that demeans women and brings down the community. I agree with all that was said in this video by the different commentators. It is what it is, especially the first guy saying he's not a fan of TP but understands why the community consumes his offerings.
"demeans women"? Female "rappers" are demeaning themselves, every day, worse than the males are. You have your opinion, I shared facts.
Tyler does have a moral duty to help his people, just like we all do. I stand on what I said.
"demeans women"? Female "rappers" are demeaning themselves, every day, worse than the males are. You have your opinion, I shared facts.
Tyler does have a moral duty to help his people, just like we all do. I stand on what I said.
Tyler Perry is a BILLIONAIRE and growing 😊
Okay,Comedy Hype . This was a really good topic and conversation....
Part 7:48 because those artist didn't sell there souls. That's the answer to that question. They want us killing each other.
Centric is owned by BET
Thank You !!!!!
Shows how much bs he was just spewing trying to make his ridiculous point
People are committed to a formula called usuality even if it’s unintentionally offensive
Every time I hear a conversation on relationships or communities - my thoughts always considers "Stolen, Lost, Strayed." with many other producers, authors, actors and musicians on a lengthy list. 🙌🏾🙌🏾💜🌟
“The one that’s got Alzheimer’s. He forgot he’s a man; he just stays in a dress. He can’t help himself”😂😂😂😂
Do the same to Fiddy Cent...
Curtis Jackson, if you're nasty
@@qianabrown3662
"MS. JACKSON!!"
The coca-cola analogy is accurate. Similarly, drinking coca-cola on a regular basis leads to physical health problems, so these stereotypical movies lead to mental health problems due to the constant promotion of negative stereotypes in black movies
I like these guys. Bring back the comedians
Have you ever heard a song that you didn't like at first , after you hear it so many times you love ,it , and if we stay where we are , I pitty our future , if we don't Inspire to be greater
Excellent conversation!! I agree with both points. Superb question at the end about Tyler Perry films vs Rap. Both of the men were great. Please have them back 👏🏽.
Also, I think the question of film vs music is the broader one. Which one is more impactful to the black community? I think they go hand in hand. Imagery visually and also sonically. A lot of rap music talks about disrespecting black women and Tyler Perry films depict (the same version 🥴) just that.
Neither are of help to the black community. As a whole, we should at the very least- be shown and depicted as a very diverse and different group of people. There are far too many stories to tell of the black experience just to stay on ONE, Tyler. Do better, please. 🙏🏾
Years ago a business owner told me that you don't sell what people need, you sell them what they want. That's how you make money.
Wow! This was a conversation. Both guest made good points.