The parents are trying to be stoic and not show emotion he’s a ex con & I believe they feel badly that they can not spare their other children the emotional heartache .
I believe Scott is the one that edits these videos. I really appreciate how you've been inserting the quick clips that illustrate what you're talking about. For us non-experts, this is really helpful. I know it probably takes a lot more work but it is so worth it for the audience. Thanks for doing that.
Thank you gentlemen- I am a woman from eastern Ky, and you are correct in mentioning that there is a sometimes vast difference in value placed on male vs female gender (males being higher on any scale). At least that has been my experience being raised in small, very rural areas. I am appreciative of the fact that you are also sensitive to cultural influences on responses…I was taught never to “air my laundry” in front of people not in my immediate family group - it would have been unthinkable to express strong emotion (particularly negative) in public…it was called “showing your self” and that would be shameful and bring shame to your family. I am also appreciative of your understanding that people who are not highly educated, and sometimes completely illiterate, may not be able to find the descriptors to convey what they are experiencing. That does not mean they do not have deep and overwhelming feelings. There is a tendency for disrespect and harsh judgement from people unfamiliar with the lifestyle and unspoken cultural norms of the poor or even middle class southern population. So good on y’all for getting it.
Mark is right. These are folks from my neck of the woods. If you're going to be "tore up" about something, you do it behind closed doors. It's also common here to drink (or whatever) to numb emotions. Very common. If you guys are interested in this culture, there's a great book - from the 60's - called "Yesterday's People". It's a great ethnography of Appalachian folks. When I read it, I understood my father and his family so much better. He was a man of few words and even fewer emotions. It comes from generational distrust of outsiders and not showing vulnerabilities. Ha! Chase called it too. (I should wait until the end to comment!)
You all were gracious with this couple. Believe their socioeconomic situation could tee them up to be misinterpreted on lots of levels. Your “lens” was fair and balanced. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
@@kemeee5407 I agree, we can judge people righteously. Maybe these people aren't aware of her actions and behavior, if they are then shame on them for supporting bad behavior.
My grandma was from the hilly parts of eastern TN. She never showed a lot of emotion. When troubles were many, she knew her faith would give her strength. She told me once, never let them see you cry, you're stronger than that. I think this lady was raised with the same value system.
faith has never made my eyes roll back in my head or to appear nodding off.. and having raised four alone, on very limited resources with a disability, i knew a struggle or two too.. but God forbid had a child gone missing i'd need to remain coherent and alert every minute until found!
I'm sure others have noticed this... at $:46, just as Mark identifies the "tongue grooming" gesture, Greg reaches behind his neck as if to scratch his head, Scott angels his head away from the camera and raises his eyebrows, touching the top of his glasses, and then HE also reaches behind, as if to scratch his back. Meanwhile, Chase looks down sharply, purses his lips, and then retains (camera) eye-contact. It all happens at once.
I wanted to tell you- I have been noticing that you have been adding the clips of the behavior you are discussing and referring to (as an interjection to your statement) so we can see what you are talking about. I, along with several others, were begging you to do this because before you started, i felt your videos were best watched with two monitors (one to listen to you and the other to watch the body language you would refer to) and that was at times a pain to do that. BUT NOW, you have been interjecting the clips of your videos at the part you speak of, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE,. THANK YOU!!!!! Thank you so much for doing this, we all appreciate you taking the time to read our comment about doing this, and then actually doing it for us. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
I’m surprised none of you guys mention the son standing next to the father. That boy’s face tells a story. I hope someone has or will find what really happened.
Just wanted to clarify that saying "We believe in the resurrection" is the same as saying "We are Christian" because you need to believe in the resurrection to be a Christian. Also thank you Behavior Panel for listening to your viewers and adding clips while you talk about this. The extra hard work is appreciated!!!
I live here in Rogersville where she is actually missing from. I'm a nurse in training to be a therapist. I don't see this ending well and part of that feeling is due to the family's history with DCS and law enforcement but also, the speaking of her in the past tense.
@@misstati-tatianna1627 Never mind, I looked it up. How could she be "supposed to get custody" of children that were born after she disappeared, though? Rose went missing back in 2009. Maybe the oldest, he's about 15 isn't he? Or I'm just confused--how many children does this woman have? During the interview she says "the boys" when describing how Summer went into the house then downstairs to play.
Why is it people have something against judging? For one thing, when people comment, it might just be, they are conveying an impression; not necessarily judging. In any case, we, humans, and even animals have to constantly make judgments-it is what keeps us and animals alive. We make judgments from the moment we get up to the moment to go to sleep, for goodness' sake. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😖
I agree, these comments may be made in the comfort of our own homes which makes us feel we can say what we think, but some of the things said, that poor family having to read it. :(
I watched this when you first aired it, but after Dr Phil, I’m back to watch it again. We can learn so much by doing this. Proud to be a panelist for over a year!
When a person has had severe trauma over the course of multiple days and weeks, the body responds by shutting down. Arms feel heavy. Legs cannot move. Her expression is very telling - that she is completely wiped out. In the Appalachian area, the people who live in the hills are strong and resilient, but they lack sophistication.
Jennifer Bell Her expression is obviously over” medicated”, she had already bragged on TickTock about her Marijuana smoking,& Then possibly had a “ piece” of Grandma’s candy too. What about the mandrake plants in Grandma’s “garden”? Research Mandrake roots.
Sophistication??? Wow you just grouped all Appalachians as unsophisticated! You are totally unlearned to the people who live in the hills! They are just like any culture they are all classes in the south PLEASE don't stereotype. The Wells were not raised in the "hills" In fact, Candus is a Yankee from Wisconsin and Don is from Utah!
Who else is re-watching this Ep following the discovery Interview? im looking out for how trust was established for Don to want to be interviewed. Thanks again to Scott, Greg, Chase and Mark I learn more here than I did at University! Sending prayers to the Wells children if they are watching this x
At 41min in clip, she mentions how the boys said “she went down stairs to play with her toys in the playroom.” Just seems a lot of words for kids that age while watching tv or being on the internet. Most kids would just say she is down stairs (keeping it short), and everyone would already know that her toys are down stairs and it’s called the playroom. Just don’t sit right that part...
Please pray for this little girl to be found, and to give the family the strength to get through this harrowing time. Please Father help the little child and family, I ask this in your Son's most Holy name, Amen
@@INTJ91 Agree, he didn't have the kahunas to admit Trump is a narcissist and it would have helped support Trump's niece Mary's analysis of him and how dangerous he could be. Dr. Phil sold out to Hollywood a long time ago. Seems it's more about the money and people's opinion of him that are important.
It does not sit well with me that they appear to be so certain she is dead. It bleeds through everything they say. It's all past tense. Very concerning.
If this story was true, I bet they blame the brothers for not watching her, and I bet they give them hell about it daily. Guilt trips and anger, but no responsibility on the drunk mom.
I’ve been waiting to see an analysis on them because I live on the other side of Tennessee and the day we got this amber alert there were two more within 24 hours. I’m still praying for a miracle.
My thought regarding when the mom broke down when she recounted her other children’s grief. My experience is this, I will hold myself together as best I can for the sake of my children and/or my husband. My grief may be almost to much to bear but my husband’s or children’s grief just breaks me apart in a completely different way, it shatters me. I may have a hard time telling you of my personal pain but I can share with you my family’s shared pain.
Exactly. I do this all the time. It is much easier to hold our own grief at bay but when confronted/remembering a loved ones grief or pain it just shatters that wall.
It's not how they say it, but what they say. 1. Lured her by the swing, I thought she was inside? 2. Let her go. Not give her back, letting go implies death. They implied death a lot. 3. The boys are grieving. Again this implies they already believe she's dead. If someone snatched my kid, she's not dead until I touch her body, until then she's alive in my brain. A mother doesn't give up hope. This statement also bothered me because it's just "the boys," not "we". Why is she not grieving and crying with them? And then he uses past tense a lot as mentioned.
The weirdest part for me (not shown here) is when the dad goes on and on about how he hopes she’s not locked in a dungeon because she loves the outside so much. Y’all should check out the extended interview. ITS BONKERS in my humble completely uneducated opinion.
I'm relieved Chase mentioned (@01:15:25) that _"...in this culture; especially in this area of the United States, emotion is _*_not_*_ part of the game."_ I was gritting my teeth in frustration every time I heard one of the guys point out the lack of emotion. Half of my family is from the Northeast, & the other half is from the South; specifically from the Eastern Tennessee/Southern Appalachia region. My Northern family is very animated & expressive. In fact, we're usually the loudest table at a restaurant. My family from the South is different. Of course they're lovely, fun people, too, but they're plain-spoken, & when tragedy strikes, there's this kind of, I don't know, grave kind of acceptance..? It just sort of settles in; they make room for it inside themselves. It's very difficult to explain, but I immediately recognized it in these two parents.
Yes. I completely agree about emotions being handled much differently in that region of Appalachia. I've been trying to articulate this, but you said it really well.
This is critical information. I almost feel like the panel could use a cultural consultant occasionally. There's no way they can know all the details about every area of the world, and it's incredibly helpful to have cultural comments on this.
@@Justicia007 Yeah, I can see how the parents' lack of demonstrativeness, if you will, could easily be misunderstood, & my frustration was with that very situation rather than with the guys themselves.
I am not an expert - only a therapist - but I am looking at the child interviewed. He does not appear comforted by his father. He appears uncomfortable. In distress.
If I were going to guess on the side of guilt, it would be toward the dad. And the mother being told how to explain it, as well as the kids having been told what to say. But only if..
And God himself knows I am not quick to judge people, but when the Sheriff's office walked in to the office where I was working, and told me my 21 yr old son had been killed by a car dropping on him in an accident, my face hit the floor. My heart dropped lower then it's ever been to realize that we would never get to see him gain in this life, and my tears were uncontrollable for a long time to come. I also had no ability to sit and chat about it, much less talk about him in past tense. I know we're all different, but a parents grief is not hide-able when it's real. I'm from the country too. Location doesn't change despair. And going to church doesn't change the fact that bad souls also attend.
And one more thing.. each relationship is unique to the person who has that with God. But God also knows who uses his name in vain, and in dishonesty. No matter how many words a person spits out about him, God knows which are true and which are not. So he will deal with each us personally, too. I don't feel any passion behind his words when he talks about Jesus, then he does about Summer. They are used like filler to paint a picture around his persona. But that picture feels blank when he's done. It's hard to imagine 7nder what circumstances this story really unfolds, and I will be the first to say my intuitions and perceptions were wrong here, but I believe the guilt for Summers disappearance lies withing those walls. One perp. The rest co-conspirators likely by intimidation. I was not impressed with the session the 4 behaviorists held. I feel slightly paranoid that the idea is to get the 2 parents feeling safe with Dr. Phil and them, by giving prior approval, to play into the parents heads, and make them a case study with a show stopper. It doesn't take a doctor of anything to discern specifics that can't be denied. At this point the parents will likely have to fight to prove their innocence, even if it takes forever.. this will follow them until answers are had. Despite no hard evidence they were neglectful or abusive.
As a pediatric hospice worker, I imagine mom can’t acknowledge Summer’s loss. It’s easier to focus on the boys because she can offer them comfort; she’s powerless to comfort Summer. How much guilt is mom carrying-the guilt of not protecting her daughter.? Just my 2 cents!
Yes I totally agree. I think shes possibly a visual person, so she can visibly see her boys crying, but isn't imaginative, so isn't imagining what Summer might be going through. Her brain is probably protecting her from that trauma too. I think its natural for a mother of multiple children to get emotional over what her other children feel over what she's feeling. Hearing her boys cry must just compound the grief.😔😔
My immediate thought was that he's gripping and consoling the child to control the child's behavior, as in does the child know something that the dad needs to regulate the child?
I don't see that at all. He's comforting. Gripping..watch the couple who the husband killed the baby...he's "gripping" there's no re restraint here at all..I just see someone trying to comfort and gain comfort from his kid. Who is probably going thru a bunch. Regardless of how this turns out that boy def needs a school counselor or someone to talk to. It's hard enough at that age this can really damage that boy. I hope he gets the attention he's going to need. I understand the focus on his sister but he's going to need some too.
1st video, the son looks very uncomfortable with his father. Something seems off with the father and how he try’s to comfort himself with his son and the arm rubbing. To me, it seems like the son doesn’t know what it feels like to be comforted.
Hummingbirds Oliver I do believe that this whole family knows more.. if the grandpa dies six weeks prior maybe he was a lubricant to the relationships. The anchor if you will. The sister disappeared what ten twelve years past&the sister has no empathy.. even commented to their mother ‘why are you crying for the b****,she’s dead’ the mother knows what happened to her child. In two minutes U say a stranger comes up on your desolate property out in the boonies.. why the police haven’t arrested anyone is beyond me.. kinda like the two missing CA City boys. So kids just aren’t a priority to find??? What has our justice system come to? It’s okay to get away with loosing your children &have no ability for their whereabouts? Look at Lori Vallo.. how long did it take them?&what was the outcome by the time they did find those kids.. sick system.
Maybe the boy misses his sister, maybe he doesn't want to be on TV (not everyone does), what is he supposed to do, perform a little two step and sing a song for the nice people at home ? Nothing wrong with how his dad is holding him, Jesus Christ quit finding things to nitpick like most here on YT are ! Wasn't aware there were so many lawyers and behavior experts here, probably the same people calling TBI numerous times a day leaving useless tips and theories instead of good, helpful information
I agree with Chase that her brother disagrees that Summer wouldn’t leave the property. He immediately has a contempt look on his face when his daddy said it and then ducked his head even lower and it looked a little bit like shame. Having 4 siblings myself we always knew each other’s secrets and habits and rarely tattled on the exciting stuff. I think my parents are still shocked by some of the truth behind our childhood and teenage exploits.
Yeah, I thought I saw shame in the boy. I thought perhaps it was some guilt as the mother says she told the boys to watch their sister, and they were the last to see her. Not sure, though.
@@lesleythompson6801 I just heard Hunter's father wants his son. He believes that she drowned while they were not watching her. He believes she was thrown in a well???
I think my mum instinct kicks in too quickly as I would of said with the absence of naming , crying and being utterly hysterical about Summer’s loss - anything else looks guilty to me but I’m aware that’s definitely a prejudice of mine! But with the first statement being about a resurrection it was just not the right place to start. I’m going to compare this to The McCans, look at that one then look back at this one. Prayers to USA to hopefully get Summer home safe. 🇺🇸
The Behavior Panel is just going by what they see in the videos. Those of us who are surprised about the analyses probably are influenced by all the other details we have seen and read.
There is so much more out there about this situation and does suggest to me there is more to this. I was surprised at the analysis too but learned lots. The mom could be telling the truth but with whatever else has been going on around the family there could be a mountain of guilt. I pray that Summer is not suffering like her dad was saying he feared in the same interview
@@seagravity no, but I would argue most parents in this situation hold out hope 20-30 YEARS later for their missing children. It’s odd to say this within 2 weeks of a disappearance as a parent.
@@angiek2919 we have had a few cases that offer hope in the past decades, but the reality of kidnappings, especially little girls are if nothing is found in a couple days it becomes a hope that the body will be found at some point. i also think the parents especially the dad have a suspicion of who did it, but may not know the person that well.
He said (somewhere) he wanted the roads blocked off so the perpetrator couldn't escape the county/state. He's lost hope because they didn't hurt her, at least he believes his wife.
The boy standing with his father was hardly a poster child for a "loved" or concerned person. He looked to me like he was afraid to even look at the camera and the way the father was clamping him made me feel afraid for him and reminded me of Caleb clamping Angela Gardner. To me the boy looked down the whole time like he was intimidated, guilty or afraid to make a wrong move. Something just not right. Of course my interpretation but no one addressed his demeanor which is saying something by being totally disengaged. Also re the dad, so hard to say because men are often ashamed to look weak or show emotion. In the South,they have this phoney cowboy bravado for lack of a better term.
I totally agree, Barbara. I wonder if the parents are angry with him , and his brother for not watching Summer. The dad mentions that the boys were watching the internet ( as usual) perhaps more interested in the internet than following their mother’s request to watch their sister?
@BarbaraL Lowell I'm from Tennessee and understand what you are saying culturally!! Scot is always deep into cultural slant. I'm only halfway through the video but have so far rarely seen them so agree on truthfulness and innocence. Call it "female intuition" but something just "bothers" me about the Dad. I may be influenced by the fact that I lived with a male Covert Narcissist for many years before I escaped "Narc Hell"! A Narc is not particular to any culture but a degree of poverty and a male dominated Southern culture certainly MAY imply this little boy and Sunshine's Mother could POSSIBLY be under the Father's control. The red flags showing to me may very well be influenced by my life experience and I don't want to malign an innocent Father!! I would be extremely interested in your take on what I have said and any criticism or agreement. So BarbaraL Lowell, I hope you can help me with a reply! I found what you said in your comment extremely interesting! There is also the fact the Father seems to have been prior in trouble with the law and possibly sentencing. Again, one must factor in that people can change particularly if they have TRULY had a renewed relationship with God and a newfound absolutely truthful relationship with Jesus (which appears to have occurred prior to the little girl's missing). Thank you in advance for any comment BarbaraL! At 71 yrs young, I believe I have attained some wisdom and discernment ~ this one has me stumped!!
@@annemansouri6352 yea that internet comment was passive aggressive blame innuendo, loaded imo. My bro was 10 years younger and my mom went to work when I came home from school I was stuck responsible for him and I hated it, pulled all kinds of stunts to get out of it and dragged him with me to my GF house down the street. I love my bro so much but my friend recently told me I was very mean to him when I was 12-13. I had no recollect and this saddened me and so I understand others in that situation.
@@lindahaggard6416 so nice of you to reach out to me. Yes at 79 me too, I can usually sniff people out and I know enough about my conditioning to evaluate whether or not I am projecting. If I can see something and still feel compassion for the "bad guy" then I know I am tuning in. If I am making the person guilty, wrong or evil, I know my button has been pressed and it may still be true, but I am not seeing clearly, all charged up from my past experiences. I think you can feel when Jesus has been welcomed into someone's heart, there is a kindness, a softness, an understanding that we are all victims of our circumstances and societal conditioning and are taught we are not good enough, we don't measure up to societal standards, and we are lacking this and lacking that. We construct compensatory ways of disguising this and feel justified because the world wronged us while others have a bed of roses life. A lot of pretense around religion by looking down at the "bad" people and yes I agree, people can change and grow and make amends. Seeing thru a fresh lens each time instead of kneejerk is not easy, takes vigilance. For me when I get really stuck with buttons pressed and feeling judgmental and self righteous, I ask for help and turn it over to Spirit, in my case Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I have done the whole Spiritual trip sine 1969 and it's a lifeswork, you have to humble yourself every day. I married an MD narcissist in a family of MD narcissists and got out after 5 years, and it took 50 more years of spiritual and psychological therapy to get a handle on what happened, the grip was so tenacious. I thought it was all my fault, whatever happened the guilt was always on me. The punchline was I married my psychiatrist!!!! EEEEKS talk about lost soul me. He was a dogged atheist who tried to derail me at every turn belittling God at eery turn. The good thing is it eventually taught me the need for forgiveness and for letting go of the memories and the guilt, but as I said, a LifesWork, still at it. LOL and OMG!!!!
@@annemansouri6352 I have some qualms regarding this as well. No child should ever have to assume the RESPONSIBILITY and therefore the QUILT for attending another child instead of the parent. Yet again, real life is full of inconsistencies to what should be. Still confused on this one.
Am i the only one bothered about him parading the kid in front of the camera? The kid looks terrified and/or distraught ... this makes me very concerned
I think that boy, the son that the dad is gripping, looks extremely uncomfortable. I think he knows something and he knows he is not allowed to say. Maybe I'm wrong but that boy's face is very uncomfortable and he doesn't seem like dad's arm is comforting or wanted.
@@KimberlyJ424 Exactly. They were told to watch her right before she went missing but were fulfilling their screen addiction. The mom probably blamed them or said something about that. Poor kids will live with that guilt forever.
When Chase mentioned how the father said Summer wouldn't leave the yard her brother's eyebrows furrowed. Yes his head did lower slightly, but watch his eyebrows. He does not agree with that statement.
I am wondering if they are covering up for someone? Did she go into the house, and make her brothers angry? Did something accidentally happen inside the home? They are speaking in past tense about the little girl. I may be out to lunch but something tells me there is something else.
Having lived in east Tennessee and Kentucky all my life ,I have seen many people who talk slow and show little emotion . From my experience, it is usually found in people,at least in this area, who have been addicted to drugs for many years. Most people in this area actually do show emotions!
I think in this case the repeated words of Greg - "CULTURE MATTERS" - is something we've heard said in previous videos but perhaps haven't seen it so prevalent until this video. The difference in the way they 'show' emotion, their way of speech and what can be common phrases for the family and those in their community can be so far removed from what some of us have experienced and lived. Thank you Behavioural Panel - it's all great brain food!
I’m a local and cannot tell you how happy I am this is getting the attention it should be getting! We are simple, country folk but def not as hillbilly and dumb as some would believe. We try to protect everyone we come across. This has baffled me! Thank you for even shedding light on this case. Please help us find Summer and bring her home. Please.
Never SAY 👉YOU ARE SIMPLE PEOPLE.. Good God fearing, community supporting..never met a stranger PEOPLE.. Y'all KNOW more have Lived More LIFE AND 🤔SURVIVAL WISE CAPABLE GOOD PEOPLE.
@@MsTygame I'm a country girl too I'll be devastated if we get bad news about it I'm just hoping for a positive story at the end I keep praying prayers do work
Being from PA/WV boarder, Appalachian Mts area i can tell you this is a cultural thing. 100%. People DO NOT show emotions, especially sadness in public. Cause it is a sign of being weak. And the difference in the way people act from people who live "in the mountains" compared to people who live in town is night and day. The people in town show emotion almost to the point of exhaustion (i guess to show everyone how in touch with their feelings they are, lol), and mountain people make fun of them for it. MAYBE if you have one mountain person, ALONE, you might have a chance of getting some strong signs of sadness or worry, but its just NOT going to happen in a public space like on here. It DOES NOT make them bad people. I have alot of friends and family from the mountains, and everyone of them have an extremely strong family unit and would give you the shirt off of their back. Just dont expext them to get really excited when things go sideways in their life, cause its just not gonna happen.
This is the 1st time that I will DISAGREE with the panel's assessment unless at the end when Scott finally see redflags. That mother knows what happened to her daughter. Her being high as a kyte can not yeild a proper judgement as to deceit. She knew this. She has had her other children taken away from her by cps.
Don Wells was asked Chases favourite question “what do you think should happen to the person that took Summer ?” He said he would leave it to God . He was asked if the person should be sent to prison and he didn’t say yes . Massive red flags .
Worse than that, if they came forward, he stated he would do everything in his power to protect them for their "heroic act" .... (I believe he originally said this on Voices Behind The Wall after the vile and almost believable prank call to Mary but I viewed it elsewhere)
Red flags? Maybe him trying to be merciful even to someone who might have killed his daughter. No doubt fighting the baser instinct to pummel the perp to death!
Or could merely be trying to speak to the abductor in a way that evokes empathy towards a father who is desperate for his daughters return ONLY! Hardly gonna help saying come forward so we can hang u!
@@Fallopia5150 and @j h yes, I can see both your points but still he made no direct plea for either her safety OR her return. If he's as clever as he's being given credit for (and I suspect he's more street smart than clever), then yes to giving a well intentioned abductor empathy (I understand why you took her (to save or protect her based upon his calling it a heroic act)) but then why not again use this to appeal to this 'heroic' individual for the sake of the boys and say just how upset/afraid they are not knowing what's happened with their sister? Please let somebody know she is ok? And if it truly were an act of heroism, why would this person be concerned only for Summer's safety and not the other children's? When asked to speak directly to Summer as if she could hear, there were no comforting words, such as we/I love you, I/we (or at least lots of people) am/are looking for you. I can overlook their potentially increased substance abuse in more recent weeks as if my child was missing with no answers and then I lost my other children via a court sanctioned action then I too would need to be heavily medicated albeit via doctors in my case (and I highly doubt prescription drugs would suffice based upon their assumed tolerance levels would be). I can almost overlook their speaking in past tense too, as we don't know when LE gave them statistics of child being dead or how Rose's unsolved disappearance plays into their thinking
If she was in dry clothes why sit in a pillow in the car ( to not get the seats wet). Why is she in a dress if she had a bathing suit on? Kids and phone ping will tell us everything.
I can't get rid of the feeling that the parents know what hapenned. They are sad but don't express any anger or curiosity about what could have happenned and who took her
First opener when the dad came out and was talking about the resurrection I thought the girl is dead and the parents know and I will not be surprised if they find the little girl having been smothered somewhere.
You guys might want to re-visit this one... PLEASE?! There is a TON you guys are not up to date on with this case, or maybe you are. I really want to know what each of you think now.
@@mickeyoshea2035 maybe, didn't think of that but it does happen. That last picture of her sleeping in the car against 2 milk jugs just seems creepy to me. There's something about it that gives me the willys.
If I had to hazard a guess, mum is definitely on Xanax. There are a lot of indications: slowed speech and reactions, time lapse between questions and answers, lack of the ability to maintain focus, etc. Hell, maybe she was prescribed it due to the hell a missing child would absolutely cause. They are both definitely not sober. Not sure what's up with the dad. They both are also lying. Just my observation. Their body language and mannerisms do not fit this situation. Something is very wrong here.
I went to the hospital one time my anxiety was through the roof. They gave me two adavan and I could have cared less if the roof fell in..srsly...dulled my senses.....
Her RIGHT side of her face I thought from the first moment I saw her...... has been HIT SO MANY TIMES with the back of a hand of someone standing in front of her....so it is all smashed in I also do not see the father comforting his son, but exerting total control.... just a sense... you guys are the experts...
I just wanted to add these are both people of high trauma in their lives. Abuse, neglect, arrest, drugs and alcohol, all bring a life of stunted reponses to avoid being a victim, to avoid being pointed out and blamed, and just a worn out nervous system.
100% agree. I think some people have been through so much in their life that it's almost another (tragic) card they have been handed in life. I feel they or especially the mother at least is genuinely devastated, not from only this video but other footage of her being interviewed. Also, I believe they said its maybe day 4 since she has been missing, they have probably been through some very high emotions and shock over the first couple of days that they are just absolutely emotionally drained and exhausted. It's so heartbreaking.
I've watched a dozen of your videos and have agreed 100% of the time so far. That is until this video. Finally we disagree on something and I don't mean that to have a negative connotation. You guys saw and described countless red flags, but in this video you dismissed nearly all of them, which I, admittedly as a newb, wouldn't have dismissed. But it'll be interesting to see how this resolves and if the parents had a role.
I agree. The other occasion on which they did that, it was the Gabby Petito case, where they were trying to find her and then trying to bring the bf/killer out of hiding. It didn't work in the end, but I have to wonder if that was the motivation here as well ... to "go soft" to elicit information?
Think about this her mom said she watched her go from gramma’s trailer into the house. So between that time and the time she went missing with 5 people home and countless dogs. Somebody comes on that property and has the exact opportunity to abduct Summer.? Why her and not one of the boys? Doesn’t add up . No way I still smell a couple of rats. Plenty of places to get rid of a body sad to say in that rural area. I’m shocked they haven’t arrested one or both of them. Must be a huge trafficking ring they are trying to bust.
Just starting but even though the little boy’s head is down, when the dad says “the boys were on the internet of course”, the boy flinched ever so slightly. I’m afraid those kids may have been partly blamed for not watching their sister. Perhaps the boys shooed her away like brothers will do and they’re feeling shame??
That's the feeling I got during that moment in the interview. It felt like the boy wanted to either apologize or say something that he might have seen or suspected. I think the father is sure that his daughter is dead, and I think the mother knows something or is very sure of something.
And the dads keys in the palm of his hand might make him flinch. I don’t blame those kids I think they are aware of something concerning Summers disappearance.
Unfortunately I think this could certainly be the case especially at first. It makes me wonder if that’s why the mother has such an emotional reaction about the boys crying for their sister. Maybe she has guilt now about initially blaming them for not watching her.
Interesting. Did you know that Summer Well's aunt also disappeared? Rose Marie Bly, aged 21 Years, in August 21, 2009. When they talk of abduction I think they believe Summer was taken the same way and therefore the hopelessness and religiousness of the interview. Canam 411 refers to it. (David Paulides) Many disappearances around the area.
This would explain some of the hopelessness in the beginning. I wonder why they didn't mention her. I would have been saying simething like this is so scary like my sister being missing.
Has anyone else watched the interview up today Chris from The Interview Room ? I would love to see TBP look at this and tell us what Chris is doing here
I think the boy knows something and the father is keeping him close to ensure his silence. The caresses are probably a warning to the child that the father is still able to harm him. Just saying. I pray Summer is alive and well, but it doesn’t look good.
I don't get that vibe at all. I think you guys just always think the parents are bad guys or you're prejudiced cuz they're poor and kinda southern and probably have a drug problem.
@@nicoledoubleyou I grew up in the dregs of poverty in Eastern Ky. myself. I am now a social worker and I specialize in addiction therapy. The truth is, I hope I am wrong, but I don’t think I am. I know what some addicts are capable of, which includes chid abuse and neglect, and yes, even selling their children. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. I have had clients who were politicians, doctors, teachers and, yes, destitute.
@@Ritalove Who's been diagnosed as an addict? No one, that's who. If you're the social worker that you claim to be then you know that IF either one of these parents had addiction problems TBI in accordance with the State of TN Laws on Missing, Abused and Exploited children, the other 3 children would have been removed from the home the day Summer was reported missing, or the following day at the latest. If the parent of a missing child has had casework by CPS, which the Wells family has, the State of TN is liable for the safety of the three remaining children in the home. As you and the public are aware the 3 other children are still in the custody of their parents in the family home. This also holds true if one or both parents were considered POI or suspects. Clearly, they are not.
@@VeroSCIA No, that does not always happen like that with social services. We read about it happening fairly often where caseworkers turn their heads repeatedly for various reasons. I'm also a court appointed special advocate for abused and neglected children, of 21 yrs now. Children are also victims of our system, consistently across the nation. Check statistics. It's all well and good to reserve judgement with the unknowns here, but it's not like this isn't a typical story of a missing child, where the parents know nothing except that they just disappeared.
To me it’s weird that they have such specific ideas of what they think happened to her. Why couldn’t she have gone exploring and gotten lost or hurt? Why couldn’t it be somebody next-door who has her instead of somebody far away? It almost sounds like they’re trying to lead them away from their area but maybe that’s just me.
** Hicks Big Red Flag 🚩 when Don said ‘Candus’s sister Rose was Never found Either’ on another interview. He said this when Summer was only missing for 2weeks .
Please tell me why something is not sitting well with me in this interview. I live in Tennessee and I have agreed with every other interview analysis that The Behavior Panel has done, with this being the exception. I want to know why my intuition is not aligned with the guys on this. Someone help me understand!
Mine was as well. After listening to the behavior panel…I question of what I assume is my “spidey sense” vs judging what I consider ‘lack of emotion’ I did assume the mom was on some type of sedative Did not think about Bells Palsy but the dad as well is flat.
I just want to say that it's important to not jump to conclusions about this family. Whatever their difficulties or problems, does not necessarily mean that they are lying about or guilty of what's happened. This is a challenged family.
That's one of the most suspicious things to me. Is the boy. He just seems like he knows exactly what's going on, or at the very least knows foul play is involved and he knows they are all lying.
I wondered about the same thing. The way the father has his arm around the little boy seemed more like he is trying to control him than comfort him. I'm sensing deception on the part of the parents.
Watching the kid's face while Don talks gives a lot of information too though. Don has admitted to SA of his younger step sisters, so his "affection" can never be viewed as normal. I see a man keeping a controlling arm on his son, sort of like to say "I'm right here. You wouldn't want to make me mad, right?"
@Rachael Jaynes to be fair, I fired off this comment in a rush, not noticing that this video was likely posted before Don's past became public knowledge. Given that fact, I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it that way cuz I was feeling bad for having said anything lol
“Water” seems to play a central role in the mother’s narrative. My guess (a wild guess) is that Summer drowned in the water while swimming alone and without supervision. Parents are afraid of being charged with child neglect. That’s just my two cents. I don’t think what happened was intentional though.
My thoughts exactly! I have not heard any mention of a search where the mother said they went swimming (specifically IN the water). I hope that's been on the "radar" of the authorities, especially since the search has (reportedly) been scaled back.
I think it possibly could be accidental and they are covering someone's behind..after seeing pics of her asleep in back of truck leaning in milk bottles on way home from where she had been swimming and she had to be carried to car after poss drowning had obv affected her badly said last report I saw...was she ok when arriving home?? If she had water in her lungs u can dry drown from it.. did they lay her down?? Did she almost drown?? So many unanswered questions. so many possible scenarios that you just hate to think of..I pray they find this little girl..it's just so sad 😞 🙏
I'm not officially trained but my gut says NO. The MOM feels wrong and why add so much detail into adding about walking their daughter to the door when only being a few feet away, plus the 911 call of her going on a walk when she's admittedly terrified of. Also why push so much pressure onto the other CHILDREN to be responsible for Sommer. Where did "mom" go for (2 minutes)?!?!!!! P.s what's up with the entire past tense?!?????!?
I guarantee you she was gone longer than two minutes… Everybody says I was only gone a couple minutes….Just like how many beers have you had?…a couple… Like the police are going to believe you….not
Hey behavior panel, Bill Cosby is out of jail, we would like you to investigate an interview with him. Really appreciate your work; many greetings from germany, all the best from Susan
I’m glad Bill Cosby is out of jail. I believe in Second chances. I believe in forgiveness. The women are not guiltless. They knew he was married. Women need be moral too.
If you haven’t yet you need to go to the very beginning of this case. These people are not good people. They are affiliated with people who have had other missing kids. The living conditions in their house are awful. Just a lot of really weird stuff going on.
I think it may have been worth noting prior to the analysis that Candus Blys also has a missing sister who has never been found. It adds a layer of defeat, negativity, and assuming the worst that most people wouldn't automatically revert to in the way this family would due to the past trauma. And it being 2 weeks since the disappearance, it would feel like the same horror all over again with no answers. I think that's a note worthy point.
Yes I thought the exact same thing. The woman has still not been found, so it’s going to be very hard to maintain hope that your little girl will be found alive and well especially after two weeks.
Summer’s father was arrested for domestic abuse in October 2020 and the mom dropped it 5 days later. I have watched this case from beginning on true crime RUclips channels and truly believe mom knows what happened to Summer and where her body is. I have literally lost sleep over this one and pray that Summer is found and justice for her is served
I think a lot of parents consider their sons more important. I was raised in a home like that, but do you think it could be that the mom became emotional over her sons crying because it is in front of her everyday now? She is experiencing what her sons are going through and feels it. She's not sure what her daughter is going through and maybe doesn't want to think about it much. She doesn't want to go to that dark place. She feels she should be able to do something about the situation right in front of her (sons) but cannot. She feels failure in everything right now. Can't even help her sons. Does that make sense? Not good at explaining my thoughts sometimes.
You were crystal clear Cristy. ☺ I feel the same as you when trying to convey what I'm thinking and feeling in my heart. Never feels complete or clear. 😆 I understand what your trying to say. Good points!
When the father says she "got gone", it is 100% cultural dialect for us folks from TN ;) Also very curious about any questioning the brothers have been asked through all of this, since they were supposedly the last to see her...
Good point Maggie Tudor about the brothers. The stranger danger, don't buy it. I believe the mother is truthful, but it had to be someone from the inside. I could be TOTALLY WRONG.
I think it's perfectly normal for her to be emotional with regard to her boys crying. She's become accustomed to talking about Summer's disappearance and holding her emotions back but speaking about the boys and their suffering is a new topic she wasn't expecting so her emotions came out.
@Bobbi Cat why would you have to ask God to forgive you? You have free will to do the right thing and stop accusing people. If there is a God, he probably wants you to take responsibility for your own behaviour.
@Bobbi Cat Your other comment said, ‘can’t wait for Candus to flip out’. I don’t understand how someone who purportedly believes in God can’t wait to experience the suffering of others. If believing in God is about making a conscious choice to behave that way then making it okay by asking for God’s forgiveness, then I have no need to believe in God.
If 14 days have passed with the child missing, I suspect the family are totally worn out, their hope for a positive outcome has declined with each passing day. 14 days is a lifetime of emotions for them to suffer through.
The father made a very odd comment about that as well. Saying that "Rose went missing without a trace ALSO". Why is he associating the 2? Why is he resigning to this outcome? As a parent you never give up!
@@chrisb.4323 I honestly think it was the dad or the dad was involves. He's absolutely the head of household and completely in control. Always has his hands on who ever he is interviewing with. (Ei the son or the mother) It's a. Power move.
@@courtneyr214 I think because after going thru something so devastating and traumatic it may be really hard to get your hopes up. It's been a couple of weeks and the odds of a safe recovery are not in their favor. There was most likely hope in the beginning, but time is passing with no answers. Now they are not only traumatized with their own daughters disappearance, but also having to console their other children. They were told to keep an eye on their sister and now she's gone. I can only imagine how this family is feeling.
"Summer wasn't with her brothers. She wasn't it the basement. She was just gone." It seems like a premature conclusion since they didn't mention walking around the property, calling out her name, asking neighbors, etc.
Good point! What happened after “She was just gone”? There’s no continuation of the search for her. I would expect something like “So then I ran out the door calling her and looked everywhere” or “Then I went up to check her room and searched the house”. It’s like since she wasn’t in the basement she’d obviously been kidnapped. Kind of odd.
It's because you are only seeing clips in this video. If you watch the entire interview, which I believe is on the news channel that conducted the interviews website, it makes much more sense.
I'm an addiction specialist and psychotherapist and it's really clear that the mother is heavily drug affected in this video. I've no idea if she's a drug misuser or if she's been sedated by a clinician, but she's most definitely heavily sedated by either benzodiazepines or is opiate affected. I'm very uncomfortable by the word "smother". It may well be a colloquial expression but I felt uncomfortable when she said it. I wondered was it a partial embedded confession..
Addiction plays a major role in some of there behavior especially given the background. Im a drug counselor and I see the signs here on top of the background information not to mention that little girl is SURROUNDED by sexual predators. The dad's son and the grandmas boyfriend. The dads background and mothers shows a tendency towards violence given there arrest records. I think the mom knows way more than she's saying.
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summer will be found within 5 mi of the wells home.
that boy was scared.
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The parents are trying to be stoic and not show emotion he’s a ex con & I believe they feel badly that they can not spare their other children the emotional heartache .
I believe Scott is the one that edits these videos. I really appreciate how you've been inserting the quick clips that illustrate what you're talking about. For us non-experts, this is really helpful. I know it probably takes a lot more work but it is so worth it for the audience. Thanks for doing that.
Agree
I agree 💯🙏💔
Yes! Thank you!! I love the “mini clips” that re-emphasise the certain behaviour
I think it is Mark ‼️
Same! When I watch the first time, I don't know what I'm looking for so the clips are really helpful. 🤓💯💯💯
Thank you, Greg, for your sensitivity to Southern and Appalachian working class cultures. Great insights.
Thank you gentlemen- I am a woman from eastern Ky, and you are correct in mentioning that there is a sometimes vast difference in value placed on male vs female gender (males being higher on any scale). At least that has been my experience being raised in small, very rural areas. I am appreciative of the fact that you are also sensitive to cultural influences on responses…I was taught never to “air my laundry” in front of people not in my immediate family group - it would have been unthinkable to express strong emotion (particularly negative) in public…it was called “showing your self” and that would be shameful and bring shame to your family. I am also appreciative of your understanding that people who are not highly educated, and sometimes completely illiterate, may not be able to find the descriptors to convey what they are experiencing. That does not mean they do not have deep and overwhelming feelings. There is a tendency for disrespect and harsh judgement from people unfamiliar with the lifestyle and unspoken cultural norms of the poor or even middle class southern population. So good on y’all for getting it.
EXCELLENT post! I think you win this video's comments award.
Either stoned or brain damage or both.
Mark is right. These are folks from my neck of the woods. If you're going to be "tore up" about something, you do it behind closed doors. It's also common here to drink (or whatever) to numb emotions. Very common.
If you guys are interested in this culture, there's a great book - from the 60's - called "Yesterday's People". It's a great ethnography of Appalachian folks. When I read it, I understood my father and his family so much better. He was a man of few words and even fewer emotions. It comes from generational distrust of outsiders and not showing vulnerabilities.
Ha! Chase called it too. (I should wait until the end to comment!)
You all were gracious with this couple. Believe their socioeconomic situation could tee them up to be misinterpreted on lots of levels. Your “lens” was fair and balanced. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
I agree 10000%. Excellent observation
Well said.
Agreed I'm sickened by other RUclips channels andi stay far from fb. They are cruel. And who died & made millions online Judge,jury and executioner!
I disagree. I'm no pro, but my gut will not stop saying that these "parent's" made Summer disappear. IMO.
@@kemeee5407 I agree, we can judge people righteously. Maybe these people aren't aware of her actions and behavior, if they are then shame on them for supporting bad behavior.
I love when they pretend to hear Chase when he mutes himself! Keep that one alive!
Mark was even nodding his head as if agreeing with Chase. 😂
I laughed so hard 🤣
My grandma was from the hilly parts of eastern TN. She never showed a lot of emotion. When troubles were many, she knew her faith would give her strength. She told me once, never let them see you cry, you're stronger than that. I think this lady was raised with the same value system.
Exactly!
What I'd one of her brother's did it and the parents are covering it up?
Possibly but I still think they are covering up for someone. I think it could be a family member.
faith has never made my eyes roll back in my head or to appear nodding off.. and having raised four alone, on very limited resources with a disability, i knew a struggle or two too.. but God forbid had a child gone missing i'd need to remain coherent and alert every minute until found!
@@christineh4782 don't think poor Summer even survived the creek the day prior.. where mom was reportedly drinking and plying 15 yo boy w alcohol
I'm sure others have noticed this... at $:46, just as Mark identifies the "tongue grooming" gesture, Greg reaches behind his neck as if to scratch his head, Scott angels his head away from the camera and raises his eyebrows, touching the top of his glasses, and then HE also reaches behind, as if to scratch his back. Meanwhile, Chase looks down sharply, purses his lips, and then retains (camera) eye-contact.
It all happens at once.
I wanted to tell you- I have been noticing that you have been adding the clips of the behavior you are discussing and referring to (as an interjection to your statement) so we can see what you are talking about. I, along with several others, were begging you to do this because before you started, i felt your videos were best watched with two monitors (one to listen to you and the other to watch the body language you would refer to) and that was at times a pain to do that.
BUT NOW, you have been interjecting the clips of your videos at the part you speak of, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE,. THANK YOU!!!!! Thank you so much for doing this, we all appreciate you taking the time to read our comment about doing this, and then actually doing it for us. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Absolutely agree. Thank you - makes your videos much, much better!
I 100% agree with Chase regarding the son not agreeing about the girl “never leaving the property.”
That was hilarious when Chase was on mute and Mark was nodding his head as if he was in agreement with what Chase was saying. 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m surprised none of you guys mention the son standing next to the father. That boy’s face tells a story. I hope someone has or will find what really happened.
Just wanted to clarify that saying "We believe in the resurrection" is the same as saying "We are Christian" because you need to believe in the resurrection to be a Christian.
Also thank you Behavior Panel for listening to your viewers and adding clips while you talk about this. The extra hard work is appreciated!!!
I live here in Rogersville where she is actually missing from. I'm a nurse in training to be a therapist. I don't see this ending well and part of that feeling is due to the family's history with DCS and law enforcement but also, the speaking of her in the past tense.
The comments and people saying CPS was involved have yet to be verified. It's just people making statements right now.
Exactly how does two members of the same family go missing ? Her aunt is missing too supposedly the one that was supposed to get custody of their kids
@@misstati-tatianna1627 Wait...what? When did the aunt go missing? That is rather bizarre.
@@Doxymeister ten years ago in Michigan
@@misstati-tatianna1627 Never mind, I looked it up. How could she be "supposed to get custody" of children that were born after she disappeared, though? Rose went missing back in 2009. Maybe the oldest, he's about 15 isn't he? Or I'm just confused--how many children does this woman have? During the interview she says "the boys" when describing how Summer went into the house then downstairs to play.
I feel ashamed of judging them. Thank you for educating me and hopefully many others. My prayers family. Please can bring that sweet girl
Why is it people have something against judging? For one thing, when people comment, it might just be, they are conveying an impression; not necessarily judging. In any case, we, humans, and even animals have to constantly make judgments-it is what keeps us and animals alive. We make judgments from the moment we get up to the moment to go to sleep, for goodness' sake. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😖
I agree, these comments may be made in the comfort of our own homes which makes us feel we can say what we think, but some of the things said, that poor family having to read it. :(
They're alcoholics, and liars, they know what happened to that little girl.
I watched this when you first aired it, but after Dr Phil, I’m back to watch it again. We can learn so much by doing this.
Proud to be a panelist for over a year!
Same!
When a person has had severe trauma over the course of multiple days and weeks, the body responds by shutting down. Arms feel heavy. Legs cannot move. Her expression is very telling - that she is completely wiped out.
In the Appalachian area, the people who live in the hills are strong and resilient, but they lack sophistication.
Well said, and I think you're dead on.
Jennifer Bell Her expression is obviously over” medicated”, she had already bragged on TickTock about her Marijuana smoking,& Then possibly had a “ piece” of Grandma’s candy too. What about the mandrake plants in Grandma’s “garden”? Research Mandrake roots.
Sophistication??? Wow you just grouped all Appalachians as unsophisticated! You are totally unlearned to the people who live in the hills! They are just like any culture they are all classes in the south PLEASE don't stereotype. The Wells were not raised in the "hills" In fact, Candus is a Yankee from Wisconsin and Don is from Utah!
@@carolinagirl740 You're absolutely right. I should have been more specific.
I like how you’re replaying the clips more when describing something specific, thanks!
Who else is re-watching this Ep following the discovery Interview? im looking out for how trust was established for Don to want to be interviewed. Thanks again to Scott, Greg, Chase and Mark I learn more here than I did at University! Sending prayers to the Wells children if they are watching this x
At 41min in clip, she mentions how the boys said “she went down stairs to play with her toys in the playroom.” Just seems a lot of words for kids that age while watching tv or being on the internet. Most kids would just say she is down stairs (keeping it short), and everyone would already know that her toys are down stairs and it’s called the playroom. Just don’t sit right that part...
I live about 15 minutes away and I know where they live it's a lot of meth and drug dealing goes on all the time and they are well-known
@@lorriecoffey7878 who is well known? Drugs/meth?
Yep...I thought the same thing, that and she said she walked her all the way to the porch..BS
@@andreasams3986 Totally agree. She gave too many unimportant details and that is usually a person lying.
Jacqueline It certainly seemed like toooo many unnecessary ( details) all through this,& they don’t add up. 🙄
Please pray for this little girl to be found, and to give the family the strength to get through this harrowing time.
Please Father help the little child and family, I ask this in your Son's most Holy name, Amen
You guys don't need an endorsement from Dr. Phil. Right now, you're bigger than he is.
I second that!
I agree!
You guys are much more credible! Most Australians think Dr Phil show is comical 🤪🤣 🇦🇺
Exactly what I was thinking.
@@INTJ91 Agree, he didn't have the kahunas to admit Trump is a narcissist and it would have helped support Trump's niece Mary's analysis of him and how dangerous he could be.
Dr. Phil sold out to Hollywood a long time ago. Seems it's more about the money and people's opinion of him that are important.
It does not sit well with me that they appear to be so certain she is dead. It bleeds through everything they say. It's all past tense. Very concerning.
If this story was true, I bet they blame the brothers for not watching her, and I bet they give them hell about it daily. Guilt trips and anger, but no responsibility on the drunk mom.
I’ve been waiting to see an analysis on them because I live on the other side of Tennessee and the day we got this amber alert there were two more within 24 hours. I’m still praying for a miracle.
My thought regarding when the mom broke down when she recounted her other children’s grief. My experience is this, I will hold myself together as best I can for the sake of my children and/or my husband. My grief may be almost to much to bear but my husband’s or children’s grief just breaks me apart in a completely different way, it shatters me. I may have a hard time telling you of my personal pain but I can share with you my family’s shared pain.
Exactly. I do this all the time. It is much easier to hold our own grief at bay but when confronted/remembering a loved ones grief or pain it just shatters that wall.
It's not how they say it, but what they say. 1. Lured her by the swing, I thought she was inside?
2. Let her go. Not give her back, letting go implies death. They implied death a lot.
3. The boys are grieving. Again this implies they already believe she's dead. If someone snatched my kid, she's not dead until I touch her body, until then she's alive in my brain. A mother doesn't give up hope. This statement also bothered me because it's just "the boys," not "we". Why is she not grieving and crying with them? And then he uses past tense a lot as mentioned.
The weirdest part for me (not shown here) is when the dad goes on and on about how he hopes she’s not locked in a dungeon because she loves the outside so much. Y’all should check out the extended interview. ITS BONKERS in my humble completely uneducated opinion.
His detailed "theories" makes my skin crawl. I'd like to hear what TBP thinks about that.
I Agree 💯 percent
Yes. He says his biggest fear is that she isn't outside playing with puppies...like what?!
@@courtneyr214 right?! SO FREAKING WEIRD. 🤯
Suspiciously specific if you ask me.
I'm relieved Chase mentioned (@01:15:25) that _"...in this culture; especially in this area of the United States, emotion is _*_not_*_ part of the game."_ I was gritting my teeth in frustration every time I heard one of the guys point out the lack of emotion. Half of my family is from the Northeast, & the other half is from the South; specifically from the Eastern Tennessee/Southern Appalachia region. My Northern family is very animated & expressive. In fact, we're usually the loudest table at a restaurant. My family from the South is different. Of course they're lovely, fun people, too, but they're plain-spoken, & when tragedy strikes, there's this kind of, I don't know, grave kind of acceptance..? It just sort of settles in; they make room for it inside themselves. It's very difficult to explain, but I immediately recognized it in these two parents.
Yes. I completely agree about emotions being handled much differently in that region of Appalachia. I've been trying to articulate this, but you said it really well.
@@badgerbee1879 It's *so* difficult to describe, isn't it? Thanks, tho!
This is critical information. I almost feel like the panel could use a cultural consultant occasionally. There's no way they can know all the details about every area of the world, and it's incredibly helpful to have cultural comments on this.
@@Justicia007 Yeah, I can see how the parents' lack of demonstrativeness, if you will, could easily be misunderstood, & my frustration was with that very situation rather than with the guys themselves.
@@SeekerKC your explanation was fantastic and you could have been their cultural consultant on this case!
If my child were recently missing I would NEVER refer to them in the past tense.
I’m a huge fan! I’m a 911 Operator and trying to use some of your techniques with callers!
I am not an expert - only a therapist - but I am looking at the child interviewed. He does not appear comforted by his father. He appears uncomfortable. In distress.
If I were going to guess on the side of guilt, it would be toward the dad. And the mother being told how to explain it, as well as the kids having been told what to say. But only if..
I was uncomfortable to be hugged or touched by my parent in public at his age too. And being a boy in the country I am sure it is worse for him.
And God himself knows I am not quick to judge people, but when the Sheriff's office walked in to the office where I was working, and told me my 21 yr old son had been killed by a car dropping on him in an accident, my face hit the floor. My heart dropped lower then it's ever been to realize that we would never get to see him gain in this life, and my tears were uncontrollable for a long time to come. I also had no ability to sit and chat about it, much less talk about him in past tense. I know we're all different, but a parents grief is not hide-able when it's real. I'm from the country too. Location doesn't change despair. And going to church doesn't change the fact that bad souls also attend.
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And one more thing.. each relationship is unique to the person who has that with God. But God also knows who uses his name in vain, and in dishonesty. No matter how many words a person spits out about him, God knows which are true and which are not. So he will deal with each us personally, too. I don't feel any passion behind his words when he talks about Jesus, then he does about Summer. They are used like filler to paint a picture around his persona. But that picture feels blank when he's done. It's hard to imagine 7nder what circumstances this story really unfolds, and I will be the first to say my intuitions and perceptions were wrong here, but I believe the guilt for Summers disappearance lies withing those walls. One perp. The rest co-conspirators likely by intimidation. I was not impressed with the session the 4 behaviorists held. I feel slightly paranoid that the idea is to get the 2 parents feeling safe with Dr. Phil and them, by giving prior approval, to play into the parents heads, and make them a case study with a show stopper. It doesn't take a doctor of anything to discern specifics that can't be denied. At this point the parents will likely have to fight to prove their innocence, even if it takes forever.. this will follow them until answers are had. Despite no hard evidence they were neglectful or abusive.
As a pediatric hospice worker, I imagine mom can’t acknowledge Summer’s loss. It’s easier to focus on the boys because she can offer them comfort; she’s powerless to comfort Summer. How much guilt is mom carrying-the guilt of not protecting her daughter.? Just my 2 cents!
Omg I don't know how you do the job you do but I thank you, on behalf of all parents and humanity as a whole.
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Yes I totally agree. I think shes possibly a visual person, so she can visibly see her boys crying, but isn't imaginative, so isn't imagining what Summer might be going through. Her brain is probably protecting her from that trauma too. I think its natural for a mother of multiple children to get emotional over what her other children feel over what she's feeling. Hearing her boys cry must just compound the grief.😔😔
My immediate thought was that he's gripping and consoling the child to control the child's behavior, as in does the child know something that the dad needs to regulate the child?
I don't see that at all. He's comforting. Gripping..watch the couple who the husband killed the baby...he's "gripping" there's no re restraint here at all..I just see someone trying to comfort and gain comfort from his kid. Who is probably going thru a bunch. Regardless of how this turns out that boy def needs a school counselor or someone to talk to. It's hard enough at that age this can really damage that boy. I hope he gets the attention he's going to need. I understand the focus on his sister but he's going to need some too.
If he were afraid of the child spilling, he simply wouldn't allow the child to be in the interview.
That boy's face, when Dad says she wouldn't leave the property, said a lot to me. I imagine she wandered frequently.
If I have to hear dr phil every episode.....well.....I REALLY won't like that. You guys don't need that endorsement. He needs YOURS! 🧡
I think he's a good addition to the group
1st video, the son looks very uncomfortable with his father. Something seems off with the father and how he try’s to comfort himself with his son and the arm rubbing. To me, it seems like the son doesn’t know what it feels like to be comforted.
F M It seemed as if Don was using the son for his own comfort, in one of the videos Don said he just COULDN’T stand to be by himself. ?????
That’s because Don has never put his arm around that boy EVER for comforting reasons. Only for “discipline” IMO
Hummingbirds Oliver I do believe that this whole family knows more.. if the grandpa dies six weeks prior maybe he was a lubricant to the relationships. The anchor if you will. The sister disappeared what ten twelve years past&the sister has no empathy.. even commented to their mother ‘why are you crying for the b****,she’s dead’ the mother knows what happened to her child. In two minutes U say a stranger comes up on your desolate property out in the boonies.. why the police haven’t arrested anyone is beyond me.. kinda like the two missing CA City boys. So kids just aren’t a priority to find??? What has our justice system come to? It’s okay to get away with loosing your children &have no ability for their whereabouts? Look at Lori Vallo.. how long did it take them?&what was the outcome by the time they did find those kids.. sick system.
Maybe the boy misses his sister, maybe he doesn't want to be on TV (not everyone does), what is he supposed to do, perform a little two step and sing a song for the nice people at home ? Nothing wrong with how his dad is holding him, Jesus Christ quit finding things to nitpick like most here on YT are !
Wasn't aware there were so many lawyers and behavior experts here, probably the same people calling TBI numerous times a day leaving useless tips and theories instead of good, helpful information
I agree with Chase that her brother disagrees that Summer wouldn’t leave the property. He immediately has a contempt look on his face when his daddy said it and then ducked his head even lower and it looked a little bit like shame.
Having 4 siblings myself we always knew each other’s secrets and habits and rarely tattled on the exciting stuff. I think my parents are still shocked by some of the truth behind our childhood and teenage exploits.
Agree
I know I am. tsk tsk
Yeah, I thought I saw shame in the boy. I thought perhaps it was some guilt as the mother says she told the boys to watch their sister, and they were the last to see her. Not sure, though.
@@lesleythompson6801 I just heard Hunter's father wants his son. He believes that she drowned while they were not watching her. He believes she was thrown in a well???
Love the sliced in video. The segments can be long, and breaking it up more, and showing the videos over and over is very helpful.
Who else is surprised that the analyses is revealing mostly truth in the parents' interviews?
I am 🙋🏻♀️
Becky M I admit I'm sitting here almost in shock, tbh 😳🙋🏻♀️
I think my mum instinct kicks in too quickly as I would of said with the absence of naming , crying and being utterly hysterical about Summer’s loss - anything else looks guilty to me but I’m aware that’s definitely a prejudice of mine! But with the first statement being about a resurrection it was just not the right place to start. I’m going to compare this to The McCans, look at that one then look back at this one. Prayers to USA to hopefully get Summer home safe. 🇺🇸
The Behavior Panel is just going by what they see in the videos. Those of us who are surprised about the analyses probably are influenced by all the other details we have seen and read.
There is so much more out there about this situation and does suggest to me there is more to this. I was surprised at the analysis too but learned lots. The mom could be telling the truth but with whatever else has been going on around the family there could be a mountain of guilt. I pray that Summer is not suffering like her dad was saying he feared in the same interview
The most troubling thing to me is that in the interviews, the parents keep referring to her in the past tense. That's never a good sign
while people might agree, the reality isnt lost on many people..
most cases dont resolve in a happy ending.
@CannibalCupcake I agree. But it is discouraging
@@seagravity no, but I would argue most parents in this situation hold out hope 20-30 YEARS later for their missing children. It’s odd to say this within 2 weeks of a disappearance as a parent.
@@angiek2919 we have had a few cases that offer hope in the past decades, but the reality of kidnappings, especially little girls are if nothing is found in a couple days it becomes a hope that the body will be found at some point. i also think the parents especially the dad have a suspicion of who did it, but may not know the person that well.
He said (somewhere) he wanted the roads blocked off so the perpetrator couldn't escape the county/state. He's lost hope because they didn't hurt her, at least he believes his wife.
The boy standing with his father was hardly a poster child for a "loved" or concerned person. He looked to me like he was afraid to even look at the camera and the way the father was clamping him made me feel afraid for him and reminded me of Caleb clamping Angela Gardner. To me the boy looked down the whole time like he was intimidated, guilty or afraid to make a wrong move. Something just not right. Of course my interpretation but no one addressed his demeanor which is saying something by being totally disengaged. Also re the dad, so hard to say because men are often ashamed to look weak or show emotion. In the South,they have this phoney cowboy bravado for lack of a better term.
I totally agree, Barbara. I wonder if the parents are angry with him , and his brother for not watching Summer. The dad mentions that the boys were watching the internet ( as usual) perhaps more interested in the internet than following their mother’s request to watch their sister?
@BarbaraL Lowell I'm from Tennessee and understand what you are saying culturally!! Scot is always deep into cultural slant. I'm only halfway through the video but have so far rarely seen them so agree on truthfulness and innocence. Call it "female intuition" but something just "bothers" me about the Dad. I may be influenced by the fact that I lived with a male Covert Narcissist for many years before I escaped "Narc Hell"! A Narc is not particular to any culture but a degree of poverty and a male dominated Southern culture certainly MAY imply this little boy and Sunshine's Mother could POSSIBLY be under the Father's control. The red flags showing to me may very well be influenced by my life experience and I don't want to malign an innocent Father!! I would be extremely interested in your take on what I have said and any criticism or agreement. So BarbaraL Lowell, I hope you can help me with a reply! I found what you said in your comment extremely interesting! There is also the fact the Father seems to have been prior in trouble with the law and possibly sentencing. Again, one must factor in that people can change particularly if they have TRULY had a renewed relationship with God and a newfound absolutely truthful relationship with Jesus (which appears to have occurred prior to the little girl's missing). Thank you in advance for any comment BarbaraL! At 71 yrs young, I believe I have attained some wisdom and discernment ~ this one has me stumped!!
@@annemansouri6352 yea that internet comment was passive aggressive blame innuendo, loaded imo. My bro was 10 years younger and my mom went to work when I came home from school I was stuck responsible for him and I hated it, pulled all kinds of stunts to get out of it and dragged him with me to my GF house down the street. I love my bro so much but my friend recently told me I was very mean to him when I was 12-13. I had no recollect and this saddened me and so I understand others in that situation.
@@lindahaggard6416 so nice of you to reach out to me. Yes at 79 me too, I can usually sniff people out and I know enough about my conditioning to evaluate whether or not I am projecting. If I can see something and still feel compassion for the "bad guy" then I know I am tuning in. If I am making the person guilty, wrong or evil, I know my button has been pressed and it may still be true, but I am not seeing clearly, all charged up from my past experiences. I think you can feel when Jesus has been welcomed into someone's heart, there is a kindness, a softness, an understanding that we are all victims of our circumstances and societal conditioning and are taught we are not good enough, we don't measure up to societal standards, and we are lacking this and lacking that. We construct compensatory ways of disguising this and feel justified because the world wronged us while others have a bed of roses life. A lot of pretense around religion by looking down at the "bad" people and yes I agree, people can change and grow and make amends. Seeing thru a fresh lens each time instead of kneejerk is not easy, takes vigilance. For me when I get really stuck with buttons pressed and feeling judgmental and self righteous, I ask for help and turn it over to Spirit, in my case Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I have done the whole Spiritual trip sine 1969 and it's a lifeswork, you have to humble yourself every day. I married an MD narcissist in a family of MD narcissists and got out after 5 years, and it took 50 more years of spiritual and psychological therapy to get a handle on what happened, the grip was so tenacious. I thought it was all my fault, whatever happened the guilt was always on me. The punchline was I married my psychiatrist!!!! EEEEKS talk about lost soul me. He was a dogged atheist who tried to derail me at every turn belittling God at eery turn. The good thing is it eventually taught me the need for forgiveness and for letting go of the memories and the guilt, but as I said, a LifesWork, still at it. LOL and OMG!!!!
@@annemansouri6352 I have some qualms regarding this as well. No child should ever have to assume the RESPONSIBILITY and therefore the QUILT for attending another child instead of the parent. Yet again, real life is full of inconsistencies to what should be. Still confused on this one.
Am i the only one bothered about him parading the kid in front of the camera? The kid looks terrified and/or distraught ... this makes me very concerned
I think that boy, the son that the dad is gripping, looks extremely uncomfortable. I think he knows something and he knows he is not allowed to say. Maybe I'm wrong but that boy's face is very uncomfortable and he doesn't seem like dad's arm is comforting or wanted.
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Could also be the camera causing an uncomfortable feeling. It’s not easy for adults going on camera, let alone children.
That or the children feel guilty for not watching their sister.
@@KimberlyJ424 Exactly. They were told to watch her right before she went missing but were fulfilling their screen addiction. The mom probably blamed them or said something about that. Poor kids will live with that guilt forever.
parents should never task their underage children to watch their other underage children, kids can’t be responsible for kids
When Chase mentioned how the father said Summer wouldn't leave the yard her brother's eyebrows furrowed. Yes his head did lower slightly, but watch his eyebrows. He does not agree with that statement.
Right the child had a look of yeah right dad...
I am wondering if they are covering up for someone? Did she go into the house, and make her brothers angry? Did something accidentally happen inside the home? They are speaking in past tense about the little girl. I may be out to lunch but something tells me there is something else.
mom: "where's your sister?":
most kids: downstairs
these kids: she went downstairs, mom, to play with her toys in the playroom
Good point!
Having lived in east Tennessee and Kentucky all my life ,I have seen many people who talk slow and show little emotion . From my experience, it is usually found in people,at least in this area, who have been addicted to drugs for many years. Most people in this area actually do show emotions!
Well said.
Agree. As the mom of a drug addict their behavior and voice absolutely scream drug addiction to me. Sad.
I think in this case the repeated words of Greg - "CULTURE MATTERS" - is something we've heard said in previous videos but perhaps haven't seen it so prevalent until this video. The difference in the way they 'show' emotion, their way of speech and what can be common phrases for the family and those in their community can be so far removed from what some of us have experienced and lived. Thank you Behavioural Panel - it's all great brain food!
She clearly has Xanax, Valium something on board but heck I couldn’t handle my daughter missing.
I’m a local and cannot tell you how happy I am this is getting the attention it should be getting! We are simple, country folk but def not as hillbilly and dumb as some would believe. We try to protect everyone we come across. This has baffled me! Thank you for even shedding light on this case. Please help us find Summer and bring her home. Please.
Never SAY 👉YOU ARE SIMPLE PEOPLE.. Good God fearing, community supporting..never met a stranger PEOPLE.. Y'all KNOW more have Lived More LIFE AND 🤔SURVIVAL WISE CAPABLE GOOD PEOPLE.
@@cynthianoriega7083 not everyone.
@@MsTygame I'm a country girl too
I'll be devastated if we get bad news about it I'm just hoping for a positive story at the end I keep praying prayers do work
Being from PA/WV boarder, Appalachian Mts area i can tell you this is a cultural thing. 100%. People DO NOT show emotions, especially sadness in public. Cause it is a sign of being weak. And the difference in the way people act from people who live "in the mountains" compared to people who live in town is night and day. The people in town show emotion almost to the point of exhaustion (i guess to show everyone how in touch with their feelings they are, lol), and mountain people make fun of them for it. MAYBE if you have one mountain person, ALONE, you might have a chance of getting some strong signs of sadness or worry, but its just NOT going to happen in a public space like on here. It DOES NOT make them bad people. I have alot of friends and family from the mountains, and everyone of them have an extremely strong family unit and would give you the shirt off of their back. Just dont expext them to get really excited when things go sideways in their life, cause its just not gonna happen.
This is the 1st time that I will DISAGREE with the panel's assessment unless at the end when Scott finally see redflags. That mother knows what happened to her daughter. Her being high as a kyte can not yeild a proper judgement as to deceit. She knew this. She has had her other children taken away from her by cps.
Don Wells was asked Chases favourite question “what do you think should happen to the person that took Summer ?” He said he would leave it to God . He was asked if the person should be sent to prison and he didn’t say yes . Massive red flags .
Worse than that, if they came forward, he stated he would do everything in his power to protect them for their "heroic act" ....
(I believe he originally said this on Voices Behind The Wall after the vile and almost believable prank call to Mary but I viewed it elsewhere)
Maybe he knows it was one of them so...no prison??
Red flags? Maybe him trying to be merciful even to someone who might have killed his daughter. No doubt fighting the baser instinct to pummel the perp to death!
Or could merely be trying to speak to the abductor in a way that evokes empathy towards a father who is desperate for his daughters return ONLY!
Hardly gonna help saying come forward so we can hang u!
@@Fallopia5150 and @j h yes, I can see both your points but still he made no direct plea for either her safety OR her return.
If he's as clever as he's being given credit for (and I suspect he's more street smart than clever), then yes to giving a well intentioned abductor empathy (I understand why you took her (to save or protect her based upon his calling it a heroic act)) but then why not again use this to appeal to this 'heroic' individual for the sake of the boys and say just how upset/afraid they are not knowing what's happened with their sister? Please let somebody know she is ok?
And if it truly were an act of heroism, why would this person be concerned only for Summer's safety and not the other children's? When asked to speak directly to Summer as if she could hear, there were no comforting words, such as we/I love you, I/we (or at least lots of people) am/are looking for you.
I can overlook their potentially increased substance abuse in more recent weeks as if my child was missing with no answers and then I lost my other children via a court sanctioned action then I too would need to be heavily medicated albeit via doctors in my case (and I highly doubt prescription drugs would suffice based upon their assumed tolerance levels would be).
I can almost overlook their speaking in past tense too, as we don't know when LE gave them statistics of child being dead or how Rose's unsolved disappearance plays into their thinking
Are you willing to do an updated discussion? Please, say you will.
If she was in dry clothes why sit in a pillow in the car ( to not get the seats wet). Why is she in a dress if she had a bathing suit on? Kids and phone ping will tell us everything.
I can't get rid of the feeling that the parents know what hapenned. They are sad but don't express any anger or curiosity about what could have happenned and who took her
First opener when the dad came out and was talking about the resurrection I thought the girl is dead and the parents know and I will not be surprised if they find the little girl having been smothered somewhere.
You guys might want to re-visit this one... PLEASE?! There is a TON you guys are not up to date on with this case, or maybe you are. I really want to know what each of you think now.
Could you guys do an update with all the newer clips?
Just dropped by to ask the same.
Me 3 ;)
Same question from me too!
I came here to ask the same. Hope they do
These people are HIGH! Maybe as a former addict I'm just sensitive to it, but they are messed up on something. Pills would be my guess.
@@mickeyoshea2035 maybe, didn't think of that but it does happen. That last picture of her sleeping in the car against 2 milk jugs just seems creepy to me. There's something about it that gives me the willys.
If I had to hazard a guess, mum is definitely on Xanax. There are a lot of indications: slowed speech and reactions, time lapse between questions and answers, lack of the ability to maintain focus, etc. Hell, maybe she was prescribed it due to the hell a missing child would absolutely cause. They are both definitely not sober. Not sure what's up with the dad. They both are also lying. Just my observation. Their body language and mannerisms do not fit this situation. Something is very wrong here.
I went to the hospital one time my anxiety was through the roof. They gave me two adavan and I could have cared less if the roof fell in..srsly...dulled my senses.....
@@4Mr.Crowley2 i agree. I believe xanax as well.
Mom is sttoned out of her mind.
PLEASE DO ANOTHER STORY ABOUT " SUMMER WELL's " 2023 THANK YOU ALL
I would like to hear more about the Grandmother. I would like to see her interviewed.
Her RIGHT side of her face I thought from the first moment I saw her...... has been HIT SO MANY TIMES with the back of a hand of someone standing in front of her....so it is all smashed in
I also do not see the father comforting his son, but exerting total control.... just a sense... you guys are the experts...
Agree sadly I've seen this
I just wanted to add these are both people of high trauma in their lives. Abuse, neglect, arrest, drugs and alcohol, all bring a life of stunted reponses to avoid being a victim, to avoid being pointed out and blamed, and just a worn out nervous system.
100% agree. I think some people have been through so much in their life that it's almost another (tragic) card they have been handed in life. I feel they or especially the mother at least is genuinely devastated, not from only this video but other footage of her being interviewed. Also, I believe they said its maybe day 4 since she has been missing, they have probably been through some very high emotions and shock over the first couple of days that they are just absolutely emotionally drained and exhausted. It's so heartbreaking.
@@ohbutthejoy Yes, it's so sad, isn't it?
I've watched a dozen of your videos and have agreed 100% of the time so far. That is until this video. Finally we disagree on something and I don't mean that to have a negative connotation. You guys saw and described countless red flags, but in this video you dismissed nearly all of them, which I, admittedly as a newb, wouldn't have dismissed. But it'll be interesting to see how this resolves and if the parents had a role.
Exactly!
I agree. The other occasion on which they did that, it was the Gabby Petito case, where they were trying to find her and then trying to bring the bf/killer out of hiding. It didn't work in the end, but I have to wonder if that was the motivation here as well ... to "go soft" to elicit information?
Think about this her mom said she watched her go from gramma’s trailer into the house. So between that time and the time she went missing with 5 people home and countless dogs. Somebody comes on that property and has the exact opportunity to abduct Summer.? Why her and not one of the boys? Doesn’t add up . No way I still smell a couple of rats. Plenty of places to get rid of a body sad to say in that rural area. I’m shocked they haven’t arrested one or both of them. Must be a huge trafficking ring they are trying to bust.
I’ll have to say that I think this is the first time I have disagreed with you all 4. Thanks for the show.
Just starting but even though the little boy’s head is down, when the dad says “the boys were on the internet of course”, the boy flinched ever so slightly. I’m afraid those kids may have been partly blamed for not watching their sister. Perhaps the boys shooed her away like brothers will do and they’re feeling shame??
Just wish someone would interview the boys
That's the feeling I got during that moment in the interview. It felt like the boy wanted to either apologize or say something that he might have seen or suspected.
I think the father is sure that his daughter is dead, and I think the mother knows something or is very sure of something.
And the dads keys in the palm of his hand might make him flinch. I don’t blame those kids I think they are aware of something concerning Summers disappearance.
Unfortunately I think this could certainly be the case especially at first. It makes me wonder if that’s why the mother has such an emotional reaction about the boys crying for their sister. Maybe she has guilt now about initially blaming them for not watching her.
Interesting. Did you know that Summer Well's aunt also disappeared? Rose Marie Bly, aged 21 Years, in August 21, 2009. When they talk of abduction I think they believe Summer was taken the same way and therefore the hopelessness and religiousness of the interview. Canam 411 refers to it. (David Paulides) Many disappearances around the area.
This would explain some of the hopelessness in the beginning. I wonder why they didn't mention her. I would have been saying simething like this is so scary like my sister being missing.
The fact that he started with "I believe in the resurrection," I believe that's a hint saying she's passed on
And he’s associating himself with religion, suggesting he’s a good person.
The boys know something.
100%
i think the child looks frightened and he knows something
Has anyone else watched the interview up today Chris from The Interview Room ? I would love to see TBP look at this and tell us what Chris is doing here
3:03 Right from the start, I fell sorry for the boy. He must have seen, heard and experienced a lot in his few years. Blessed one.
I think the boy knows something and the father is keeping him close to ensure his silence. The caresses are probably a warning to the child that the father is still able to harm him. Just saying. I pray Summer is alive and well, but it doesn’t look good.
I don't get that vibe at all. I think you guys just always think the parents are bad guys or you're prejudiced cuz they're poor and kinda southern and probably have a drug problem.
@@nicoledoubleyou I grew up in the dregs of poverty in Eastern Ky. myself. I am now a social worker and I specialize in addiction therapy. The truth is, I hope I am wrong, but I don’t think I am. I know what some addicts are capable of, which includes chid abuse and neglect, and yes, even selling their children. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. I have had clients who were politicians, doctors, teachers and, yes, destitute.
@@Ritalove Who's been diagnosed as an addict? No one, that's who. If you're the social worker that you claim to be then you know that IF either one of these parents had addiction problems TBI in accordance with the State of TN Laws on Missing, Abused and Exploited children, the other 3 children would have been removed from the home the day Summer was reported missing, or the following day at the latest. If the parent of a missing child has had casework by CPS, which the Wells family has, the State of TN is liable for the safety of the three remaining children in the home. As you and the public are aware the 3 other children are still in the custody of their parents in the family home. This also holds true if one or both parents were considered POI or suspects. Clearly, they are not.
@@VeroSCIA No, that does not always happen like that with social services. We read about it happening fairly often where caseworkers turn their heads repeatedly for various reasons. I'm also a court appointed special advocate for abused and neglected children, of 21 yrs now. Children are also victims of our system, consistently across the nation. Check statistics. It's all well and good to reserve judgement with the unknowns here, but it's not like this isn't a typical story of a missing child, where the parents know nothing except that they just disappeared.
To me it’s weird that they have such specific ideas of what they think happened to her. Why couldn’t she have gone exploring and gotten lost or hurt? Why couldn’t it be somebody next-door who has her instead of somebody far away? It almost sounds like they’re trying to lead them away from their area but maybe that’s just me.
** Hicks
Big Red Flag 🚩 when Don said ‘Candus’s sister Rose was Never found Either’ on another interview.
He said this when Summer was only missing for 2weeks .
You guys are the best I’ve seen. I really like how each of you are able to explain yourselves in a way anyone can understand.
Look at the kids eyes as he speaks. The kids have something to say.
Please tell me why something is not sitting well with me in this interview. I live in Tennessee and I have agreed with every other interview analysis that The Behavior Panel has done, with this being the exception. I want to know why my intuition is not aligned with the guys on this. Someone help me understand!
Mine was as well. After listening to the behavior panel…I question of what I assume is my “spidey sense” vs judging what I consider ‘lack of emotion’
I did assume the mom was on some type of sedative Did not think about Bells Palsy but the dad as well is flat.
Follow that womens intuition! You are absolutely right to doubt this.
Now that I know summer's mothers sister has been missing since 2009 I understand where the hopelessness of her being returned comes from
Exactly
I thought the same thing after reading about the sister. 👍
Thank you! Sanity.
Yes, sounds legit.
But 2 missing in 1 family? Sister and daugther? That´s odd.
Guys I truly believe that when the interview started he pulled his child to him. That means to me “ come here boy and keep your mouth shut!!
Totally. The kids looks terrified of the dad. He is not comforted by the dad, he is threatened by him
My exact thought when I saw this for the first time 💯
I just want to say that it's important to not jump to conclusions about this family. Whatever their difficulties or problems, does not necessarily mean that they are lying about or guilty of what's happened. This is a challenged family.
Yes! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Ethically challenged.
@@reenierossi3724 absolutely. They're monsters.
That's one of the most suspicious things to me. Is the boy. He just seems like he knows exactly what's going on, or at the very least knows foul play is involved and he knows they are all lying.
I wondered about the same thing. The way the father has his arm around the little boy seemed more like he is trying to control him than comfort him. I'm sensing deception on the part of the parents.
They have 20 dogs..how could anyone even get close to the house.
Watching the kid's face while Don talks gives a lot of information too though. Don has admitted to SA of his younger step sisters, so his "affection" can never be viewed as normal. I see a man keeping a controlling arm on his son, sort of like to say "I'm right here. You wouldn't want to make me mad, right?"
@Rachael Jaynes to be fair, I fired off this comment in a rush, not noticing that this video was likely posted before Don's past became public knowledge. Given that fact, I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it that way cuz I was feeling bad for having said anything lol
“Water” seems to play a central role in the mother’s narrative. My guess (a wild guess) is that Summer drowned in the water while swimming alone and without supervision. Parents are afraid of being charged with child neglect. That’s just my two cents. I don’t think what happened was intentional though.
I thought about that also. Does holly grow there?
My thoughts exactly! I have not heard any mention of a search where the mother said they went swimming (specifically IN the water). I hope that's been on the "radar" of the authorities, especially since the search has (reportedly) been scaled back.
They had divers the searched where she swam.
I think it possibly could be accidental and they are covering someone's behind..after seeing pics of her asleep in back of truck leaning in milk bottles on way home from where she had been swimming and she had to be carried to car after poss drowning had obv affected her badly said last report I saw...was she ok when arriving home?? If she had water in her lungs u can dry drown from it.. did they lay her down?? Did she almost drown?? So many unanswered questions. so many possible scenarios that you just hate to think of..I pray they find this little girl..it's just so sad 😞 🙏
@@nadrienmarkowski5595 can I ask why about the Holly growing???
I'm not officially trained but my gut says NO. The MOM feels wrong and why add so much detail into adding about walking their daughter to the door when only being a few feet away, plus the 911 call of her going on a walk when she's admittedly terrified of. Also why push so much pressure onto the other CHILDREN to be responsible for Sommer. Where did "mom" go for (2 minutes)?!?!!!!
P.s what's up with the entire past tense?!?????!?
Absolutely. This episode is as bizarre as the case itself.
I guarantee you she was gone longer than two minutes… Everybody says I was only gone a couple minutes….Just like how many beers have you had?…a couple… Like the police are going to believe you….not
Hey behavior panel, Bill Cosby is out of jail, we would like you to investigate an interview with him.
Really appreciate your work;
many greetings from germany, all the best from Susan
I’m glad Bill Cosby is out of jail. I believe in Second chances. I believe in forgiveness. The women are not guiltless. They knew he was married. Women need be moral too.
@@sarahholbrook3636 When you're drugged and rapped what does him being married matter except to the wife, and I guess she was ok with it.
If you haven’t yet you need to go to the very beginning of this case. These people are not good people. They are affiliated with people who have had other missing kids. The living conditions in their house are awful. Just a lot of really weird stuff going on.
Her sister is still missing. Don, said in an interview that he Never heard of anyone just come up missing. Well that was a 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
I think it may have been worth noting prior to the analysis that Candus Blys also has a missing sister who has never been found. It adds a layer of defeat, negativity, and assuming the worst that most people wouldn't automatically revert to in the way this family would due to the past trauma. And it being 2 weeks since the disappearance, it would feel like the same horror all over again with no answers.
I think that's a note worthy point.
Yes I thought the exact same thing. The woman has still not been found, so it’s going to be very hard to maintain hope that your little girl will be found alive and well especially after two weeks.
Summer’s father was arrested for domestic abuse in October 2020 and the mom dropped it 5 days later. I have watched this case from beginning on true crime RUclips channels and truly believe mom knows what happened to Summer and where her body is. I have literally lost sleep over this one and pray that Summer is found and justice for her is served
I think a lot of parents consider their sons more important. I was raised in a home like that, but do you think it could be that the mom became emotional over her sons crying because it is in front of her everyday now? She is experiencing what her sons are going through and feels it. She's not sure what her daughter is going through and maybe doesn't want to think about it much. She doesn't want to go to that dark place. She feels she should be able to do something about the situation right in front of her (sons) but cannot. She feels failure in everything right now. Can't even help her sons. Does that make sense? Not good at explaining my thoughts sometimes.
You were crystal clear Cristy. ☺ I feel the same as you when trying to convey what I'm thinking and feeling in my heart. Never feels complete or clear. 😆 I understand what your trying to say. Good points!
My thoughts exactly.
dad: the boys were on the internet, of course
mom: her brothers were watching tv in the kitchen
When the father says she "got gone", it is 100% cultural dialect for us folks from TN ;) Also very curious about any questioning the brothers have been asked through all of this, since they were supposedly the last to see her...
Good point Maggie Tudor about the brothers. The stranger danger, don't buy it. I believe the mother is truthful, but it had to be someone from the inside. I could be TOTALLY WRONG.
If the parents let them be questioned. They do have control,over that.
I think it's perfectly normal for her to be emotional with regard to her boys crying. She's become accustomed to talking about Summer's disappearance and holding her emotions back but speaking about the boys and their suffering is a new topic she wasn't expecting so her emotions came out.
Don said Candus was devastated by the disappearance of her sister when she was a young person. Now her own boys are going through the same thing.
@Bobbi Cat why would you have to ask God to forgive you? You have free will to do the right thing and stop accusing people. If there is a God, he probably wants you to take responsibility for your own behaviour.
@Bobbi Cat You are most certainly entitled to your opinion. But why would you need to ask God to forgive you then?
@Bobbi Cat Your other comment said, ‘can’t wait for Candus to flip out’. I don’t understand how someone who purportedly believes in God can’t wait to experience the suffering of others. If believing in God is about making a conscious choice to behave that way then making it okay by asking for God’s forgiveness, then I have no need to believe in God.
If 14 days have passed with the child missing, I suspect the family are totally worn out, their hope for a positive outcome has declined with each passing day. 14 days is a lifetime of emotions for them to suffer through.
AND they lost another family member. Rose Blye, this poor mother's sister disappeared and was never found.
The father made a very odd comment about that as well. Saying that "Rose went missing without a trace ALSO". Why is he associating the 2? Why is he resigning to this outcome? As a parent you never give up!
@@courtneyr214 I believe they know what happened - that it involved their sons....and they want the searchers to actually give up...
@@chrisb.4323 I honestly think it was the dad or the dad was involves. He's absolutely the head of household and completely in control. Always has his hands on who ever he is interviewing with. (Ei the son or the mother) It's a. Power move.
@@courtneyr214 I think because after going thru something so devastating and traumatic it may be really hard to get your hopes up. It's been a couple of weeks and the odds of a safe recovery are not in their favor. There was most likely hope in the beginning, but time is passing with no answers. Now they are not only traumatized with their own daughters disappearance, but also having to console their other children. They were told to keep an eye on their sister and now she's gone. I can only imagine how this family is feeling.
I don't get the vibe that Don is being comforting... I get the vibe that Don is dominating his kid.
Yes and son is very uncomfortable
"Summer wasn't with her brothers. She wasn't it the basement. She was just gone."
It seems like a premature conclusion since they didn't mention walking around the property, calling out her name, asking neighbors, etc.
Yeah I thought that too. 👍
Good point! What happened after “She was just gone”? There’s no continuation of the search for her. I would expect something like “So then I ran out the door calling her and looked everywhere” or “Then I went up to check her room and searched the house”. It’s like since she wasn’t in the basement she’d obviously been kidnapped. Kind of odd.
It's because you are only seeing clips in this video. If you watch the entire interview, which I believe is on the news channel that conducted the interviews website, it makes much more sense.
I'm an addiction specialist and psychotherapist and it's really clear that the mother is heavily drug affected in this video. I've no idea if she's a drug misuser or if she's been sedated by a clinician, but she's most definitely heavily sedated by either benzodiazepines or is opiate affected. I'm very uncomfortable by the word "smother". It may well be a colloquial expression but I felt uncomfortable when she said it. I wondered was it a partial embedded confession..
I think the mother has been feeling smothered by the father for a long time . .
@@dreaminggirl5783 that's such a good point..
She was doped up well before little summer went missing .
Addiction plays a major role in some of there behavior especially given the background. Im a drug counselor and I see the signs here on top of the background information not to mention that little girl is SURROUNDED by sexual predators. The dad's son and the grandmas boyfriend. The dads background and mothers shows a tendency towards violence given there arrest records. I think the mom knows way more than she's saying.
Agree-Mom & H know.