Is Nvidia (NVDA) a Buy at $940?

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  • Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
  • Is $NVDA still a good buy, even after a +2,000% return in 5 years? In today's video, we'll answer a question from @TechPeeves asking for a deep dive into the stock.
    Clearly, there are a lot of strong opinions on NVDA. Let me clarify a few common comments that I’m seeing:
    1. “You can’t use dividends to value a growth stock.” Again, following the logic of John Burr Williams, a business is worth what you can get out of it-i.e.: dividends-throughout its entire future discounted back to today. In this case, NVDA has substantial value today because it has substantial dividend-paying abilities-both now and in the future.
    2. “No one cares about dividends for NVDA.” I agree; now, NVDA pays out 1.3% of its earnings as dividends. That’s meaningless, especially when its stock price goes up 100% in months. However, as stated in the video, the future dividend projection for NVDA IF it can grow earnings at 20% CAGR and starts to payout 70%+ (which it will when it reaches maturity) is $380 billion. Based on the current market value, that’s an 18% yield-on-cost. If you don’t care about current dividends, fine; I don’t, either. But you should care about future ones; they could be massive.
    3. “You’re just mad you missed out on NVDA.” People seem to think I’m anti-NVDA here. I’m not. I’m only pointing out that market expectations are roughly equivalent to iPhone-level growth. (20%). If you think it can grow faster than that, then NVDA is still a good value. If you think it can’t do 20%, then it’s overvalued. That’s all; the ultimate decision is yours. I’m just pointing out the expectations today and cautioning that past growth doesn’t indicate that future growth will be as easy. I never said it’s in a bubble or can’t do 20%; you likely know more than I do about that topic. Besides, I own some NVDA as part of my portfolio. Stop saying that I hate it; I don’t.
    4. “Valuations are irrelevant.” If that’s the case, you could pay $7 trillion for NVDA, and it wouldn’t be a bad investment. Come on, people. Valuations are difficult, but that doesn’t mean they don’t matter; in the end, valuations are all that matter when it comes to making investments.
    5. “You just took a canned growth rate you saw online.” I don’t understand this one. I backed into the 20% growth rate based on the model described in the video; I never even checked the growth rate for NVDA, nor do I check growth rates for any stock. I think they are trash estimates, so I don’t care.
    I appreciate all of the great back-and-forth. Keep it civil. We’re all on the same team here-just trying to make smarter investment decisions.
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:26 - 2,000% in 5 years?!
    01:15 - First Level vs. Second Level Thinking
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    04:00 - Dividend discount model assumptions
    06:59 - Valuing NVDA
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Комментарии • 558

  • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
    @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +117

    Clearly, there are a lot of strong opinions on NVDA. Let me clarify a few common comments that I’m seeing:
    1. “You can’t use dividends to value a growth stock.” Again, following the logic of John Burr Williams, a business is worth what you can get out of it-i.e.: dividends-throughout its entire future discounted back to today. In this case, NVDA has substantial value today because it has substantial dividend-paying abilities-both now and in the future.

    2. “No one cares about dividends for NVDA.” I agree; now, NVDA pays out 1.3% of its earnings as dividends. That’s meaningless, especially when its stock price goes up 100% in months. However, as stated in the video, the future dividend projection for NVDA IF it can grow earnings at 20% CAGR and starts to payout 70%+ (which it will when it reaches maturity) is $380 billion. Based on the current market value, that’s an 18% yield-on-cost. If you don’t care about current dividends, fine; I don’t, either. But you should care about future ones; they could be massive.

    3. “You’re just mad you missed out on NVDA.” People seem to think I’m anti-NVDA here. I’m not. I’m only pointing out that market expectations are roughly equivalent to iPhone-level growth. (20%). If you think it can grow faster than that, then NVDA is still a good value. If you think it can’t do 20%, then it’s overvalued. That’s all; the ultimate decision is yours. I’m just pointing out the expectations today and cautioning that past growth doesn’t indicate that future growth will be as easy. I never said it’s in a bubble or can’t do 20%; you likely know more than I do about that topic. Besides, I own some NVDA as part of my portfolio. Stop saying that I hate it; I don’t.

    4. “Valuations are irrelevant.” If that’s the case, you could pay $7 trillion for NVDA, and it wouldn’t be a bad investment. Come on, people. Valuations are difficult, but that doesn’t mean they don’t matter; in the end, valuations are all that matter when it comes to making investments.

    5. “You just took a canned growth rate you saw online.” I don’t understand this one. I backed into the 20% growth rate based on the model described in the video; I never even checked the growth rate for NVDA, nor do I check growth rates for any stock. I think they are trash estimates, so I don’t care.
    I appreciate all of the great back-and-forth. Keep it civil. We’re all on the same team here-just trying to make smarter investment decisions.Thanks to all of you for continuing to support my work, and especially thank you to all my Patreon & RUclips supporters for helping me increase my research budget to continue bringing quality, data-driven, no-hype investment content to the interwebs! 😎www.patreon.com/nathanwinklepleck

    • @classicgameplay10
      @classicgameplay10 2 месяца назад +4

      Once it changes its name to Skynet, buying it wont be an option anymore.

    • @robertmccamman4630
      @robertmccamman4630 2 месяца назад +7

      Logic says it couldn't do what it already has done. It is insane to think one company can have so many geniuses on their staff and they are working as a team. All I know is that my investment has tripled and I don't think the run is over.

    • @gladiator-007
      @gladiator-007 2 месяца назад +1

      @@robertmccamman4630so would u say that its in a bubble now?

    • @mikepolls3032
      @mikepolls3032 2 месяца назад +1

      The stock just started has a lot of room to grow maybe triple

    • @robertmccamman4630
      @robertmccamman4630 2 месяца назад +1

      Nvidia is a truly extraordinary company who has the AI platform of the future. Those who have already climbed aboard the Nvidia train will get the ride of a lifetime and those who doubt can share their regrets with each other. Either way life goes on.

  • @Lisaruthdecker.
    @Lisaruthdecker. Месяц назад +1585

    AI Stocks are pretty unstable at the moment, but if you do the right math, you should be just fine. Bloomberg and other finance media have been recording cases of folks gaining over 250k just in a matter of weeks/couple months, so I think there are a lot of wealth transfer in this downtime if you know where to look.

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      @elease.eichersli Месяц назад +4

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      @noah-greene Месяц назад +4

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      @emmaarmando Месяц назад +4

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  • @Vivienedouglass
    @Vivienedouglass 25 дней назад +1204

    Great video,I agree that many people are considering NVDA as the "Stock of the year." However, I'm curious about which stocks could potentially become the next META in terms of growth over the next decade. I've allocated $200k for investment, looking for companies to make additions to boost performance

    • @MickyGlover
      @MickyGlover 25 дней назад +3

      I think the next big thing will be A.I. For enduring growth akin to META, it's vital to avoid impulsive decisions driven by short-term fluctuations. Prioritize patience and a long-term perspective consider financial advisory for informed buying and selling decisions.

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      @kurtKking 25 дней назад +2

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  • @Greghilton3
    @Greghilton3 Месяц назад +1093

    I believe investors should focus on under-the-radar stocks, especially given the present rollercoaster nature of the stock market. 35% of my $270,000 portfolio consists of collapsing stocks that were previously respected, and I don't know where to go from here.

    • @Elkemartin213
      @Elkemartin213 Месяц назад +5

      Safest approach i feel to tackle it is to diversify investments. By spreading investments across different asset classes, like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown. its important to seek the guidance of an expert

    • @Davidstowe872
      @Davidstowe872 Месяц назад +4

      It's true that many people underestimate the importance of advisers until their own feelings burn them out. A few summers ago, following an ongoing divorce, I needed a significant push to keep my company afloat. I looked for licensed advisors and found someone with outstanding qualifications. She has contributed to my reserve increasing from $275k to $850k regardless of inflation.

    • @CindyValenti
      @CindyValenti Месяц назад +4

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    • @Davidstowe872
      @Davidstowe872 Месяц назад +4

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    @jameswood9772 Месяц назад +887

    Purchasing a stock may seem straightforward, but selecting the correct stock without a proven strategy can be exceedingly challenging. I've been working on expanding my $210K portfolio for a while, and my primary obstacle is the lack of clear entry and exit strategies. Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

    • @alexyoung3126
      @alexyoung3126 Месяц назад +3

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    • @chris-pj7rk
      @chris-pj7rk Месяц назад +2

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    • @chris-pj7rk
      @chris-pj7rk Месяц назад +2

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  • @Lewyn298
    @Lewyn298 Месяц назад +1324

    Been beating myself up a bit that I sold my 53 shares of NVDA at $303 each back in May 2023. Now thinking of liquidating a few other investments to rebuy but afraid to do so. I also currently have 500k in savings making me next to nothing.

    • @84gaynor
      @84gaynor Месяц назад +1

      Everyone needs a Margin of Safety in their portfolios and just remember, It's time in the market versus timing the market.

    • @gagnepaingilly
      @gagnepaingilly Месяц назад

      Certain Ai companies are rumoured to be overvalued and might cause a market correction, i think it’s best you reach out to a proper fiduciary for guidance

    • @sommersalt88
      @sommersalt88 Месяц назад

      De-risk your portfolios, shore up your core holdings, and take some profits while balancing your portfolio allocations. I’d also suggest you go with a managed portfolio, but even those don’t perform so well, so it’s best you reach out to a proper fiduciary to guide you, that’s what works for my spouse and I. We've made over 80% capital growth minus dividends.

    • @Shultz4334
      @Shultz4334 Месяц назад

      this is all new to me, where do I find a fiduciary, can you recommend any?

    • @sommersalt88
      @sommersalt88 Месяц назад +3

      "Jennifer Leigh Hickman" is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment

  • @Charlottehornets4
    @Charlottehornets4 6 дней назад +30

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  • @chris-pj7rk
    @chris-pj7rk Месяц назад +889

    Every week I buy more of whatever is the lowest percentage of my portfolio and try to keep everything around 10%. Please what could be my safest buys with $400k to outperform the market in 2024?

    • @alexyoung3126
      @alexyoung3126 Месяц назад +4

      I would avoid the index funds, mutual funds, or specific stocks for the time being. The 5% fixed incomes are the safest bet for now. Save your cash for when the market actually shows sign of recovery.

    • @jameswood9772
      @jameswood9772 Месяц назад +1

      How can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financial future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?.

    • @jameswood9772
      @jameswood9772 Месяц назад +1

      Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find your handler, She seems very proficient and flexible. I booked a call session with her.

    • @wallywally1984
      @wallywally1984 11 дней назад

      S&p 500 is the safest with 10.6% annual returns . I just put in 20k in CMG, but if you close to retirement S&p 500 and bonds

  • @Mr-sweeny
    @Mr-sweeny Месяц назад +268

    AI stocks will dominate 2024. Why I prefer NVIDIA is that they are better placed to maintain long term growth potential, and provide a platform for other AI companies. I know someone who has made more than 200% from NVIDIA. I'll also take these other recommendations you made.

    • @Nernst96
      @Nernst96 Месяц назад

      I think the next big thing will be A.I. For enduring growth akin to META, it's vital to avoid impulsive decisions driven by short-term fluctuations. Prioritize patience and a long-term perspective consider financial advisory for informed buying and selling decisions.

    • @PatrickLloyd-
      @PatrickLloyd- Месяц назад

      Facing a similar situation, I sought advice from an invęstment advisęr. Through portfolio restructuring and diversification with good ETFs, S&P 500 and growth stocks, I've turned my portfolio around from $200k to over $800k in a few years.

    • @sattler96
      @sattler96 Месяц назад

      Your invt-adviser must be really good, I hope it's okay to inquire if you're still collaborating with the same invt-adviser and how I can get in touch with them?

    • @PatrickLloyd-
      @PatrickLloyd- Месяц назад

      Amber Dawn Brummit is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

    • @sattler96
      @sattler96 Месяц назад

      I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an email shortly.

  • @CherylInge-
    @CherylInge- Месяц назад +134

    Bought NVDA at around $290. I invest with a financial advisor who trades for me and I'm compounding a bit over $850k.

    • @DanRivers-ot6si
      @DanRivers-ot6si Месяц назад +4

      That’s good. I snowballed from 130k last year to over 900k trading stocks with my FA, Ann Marie Celentano. It's a method I'm glad I embraced.

    • @Favene-wu8uv
      @Favene-wu8uv Месяц назад +1

      I've found this lady you mentioned on google and she's impressive. I was also able to reach out, thanks for sharing.

    • @atetraxx
      @atetraxx 17 дней назад

      @@Favene-wu8uv seems like a scam

  • @KarenLavia
    @KarenLavia Месяц назад +1047

    I read that Nvidia provides tech for crypto mining services/blockchain transactions. Could the current crypto pump be attributed to Nvidia’s great earnings and should I hold some crypto as well, cos tbh I’m having FOMO with the current crypto price at 64k.

    • @CraigLloyd-fz6ns
      @CraigLloyd-fz6ns Месяц назад +1

      Microstrategy CEO bought $155million worth of bitcoin, so yes BUY!

    • @Suleferdinand
      @Suleferdinand Месяц назад +1

      It’s going to be a wild year for these sectors, so you should def. invest in crypto. 60% of my portfolio is spread across tech stocks, crypto and Crypto/Gold ETFs.

    • @Stellaanderson-qx5nl
      @Stellaanderson-qx5nl Месяц назад +1

      well the crypto market is expected to do way better than any other equity sectors this 2024 especially with the SEC crypto ETF approval but it’s a volatile market nevertheless and if you’re new to it, it’s best to reach out to an experienced adviser for proper guidance.

    • @nicolasbenson009
      @nicolasbenson009 Месяц назад +1

      Yes, my asset manager advised I spread further into mutual funds and crypto Etf and boy am I glad I did. The whole idea is: Don’t get too greedy and also to exit at the right time, so generally I do find having an adviser very helpful, because what Avg. Joe really has time to watch and comprehensively analyse the market.

    • @SandraDave.
      @SandraDave. Месяц назад +1

      could you recommend some good advisers? don’t get me wrong, I already have an asset manager, but he seems not to know much about crypto.

  • @Axalalavaara-ys3kp
    @Axalalavaara-ys3kp Месяц назад +143

    Hit 200k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started with 17k in last month 2024

    • @Chefmarcus1
      @Chefmarcus1 Месяц назад

      Wow that's huge, how do you make that
      much monthly?

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      I'm 65 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

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    @SofiaDiego- Месяц назад +402

    My spouse and I are adding a variety of stocks/ETF to my present holdings for the long term, We've set aside $250k to start following inflation-indexed bonds and stocks of companies with solid cash flows, I believe it is a good time to capitalize on the market for long-term gains, but it wouldn't hurt to know means of actualizing short term profit.

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      @mayalucia- Месяц назад

      Find quality stocks that have long term potential, and ride with those stocks. I have found it takes someone who is very familiar with the market to make such good picks.

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      @Alejandrolucia-s Месяц назад

      A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.

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      @Adrianaluca-um6ny Месяц назад

      How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.

    • @Alejandrolucia-s
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  • @janedaniel4646
    @janedaniel4646 Месяц назад +379

    I'm admittedly bummed that I didn't go with my gut instinct & buy bitcoin few months back when it was $20k - $25k range. is it too late to get in and make profits? i have set aside $450k to get fully invested this year

    • @wilsonkrusk8652
      @wilsonkrusk8652 Месяц назад

      I don't think it is. Once bitcoin crosses it's all time high, it becomes the new bottom. Anything under 69k is a good buy. It's still advisable to work with a fiduciary advisor instead of relying solely on speculations

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  • @NicoleBarker-he2vp
    @NicoleBarker-he2vp Месяц назад +215

    One question please! Is NVIDIA a safe buy to outperform the market this year? I'm tired of these new buys every week, just to make up some assets with low percentage on my $236k portfolio and try to keep everything around 10%.

    • @RossiPopa
      @RossiPopa Месяц назад +2

      Yes, but do your own research. Avoid index funds, mutual funds, or specific stocks for now. Consider 5% fixed incomes as a safer option. Alternatively, consider hiring or working with a good market strategist for added safety.

    • @RusuSilva
      @RusuSilva Месяц назад +3

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    @holyhandgrenadeofantioch2019 2 месяца назад +82

    I have traded NVDA several times, making hundreds of $$$ along the way. Meanwhile, I lost thousands of $$$ by not holding my shares. 🤦🏼‍♂️

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      Even Charles Payne made the same mistake. The sad part is when ego won't allow you to get back in the saddle with this dynamic company.

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      That's what happens to day traders. Don't do it! Also, you don't want to fall in love with a stock. Haven't watched the video yet. Most are saying, that it is overall considering everything, it is cheap.

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  • @garyscott9261
    @garyscott9261 2 месяца назад +32

    Bought NVDA in 2018 @ a current unit cost of $100. Sold 250 shares late last year at $385. One of the worst decisions I’ve made. Those 250 shares would be worth $210k now. But overall I’m still happy.

    • @mdmoz1777
      @mdmoz1777 2 месяца назад +2

      Not yet 300k, more like 211k.

    • @garyscott9261
      @garyscott9261 2 месяца назад

      @@mdmoz1777 still a lot of money for a poor boy like me. 😂

    • @garyscott9261
      @garyscott9261 2 месяца назад

      @@Dust_in_the_wind__ I still have quite a bit more but I won’t sell another share.

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      same 😭

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  • @etchvee
    @etchvee 26 дней назад

    What do you think about using DCF analysis to calculate intrinsic value? There’s a judgement call around future growth rate. Would you agree that NVDA is overpriced right now? And if so, approx by how much. Thanks.

  • @bob5365
    @bob5365 Месяц назад +5

    First of all people don't own NVDA for its dividend, which is currently .02%. They own it for its growth potential. They own it because they are not only the lead player in a new and life changing time, they are creating their own growing market. They don't just sell chips. They sell an entire platform, and are leaders in many new and growing fields. They WILL be the biggest company in a couple years. Their margins are tremendous, and their competition will only be able to nibble at their heels for years to come. I'm an owner since 2008 and it has already made me a millionaire. I haven't sold any shares yet and I believe we'll see at least a double from its current level in 2-3 years if not sooner. This is a buy and hold stock and I believe it's still cheap at these levels.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Месяц назад

      I’m not saying people own it today for their dividends. I’m saying the value of it depends on its future dividend paying abilities, which logically must be true about all businesses. All good points, though. Appreciate your thoughtful comments!

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  • @MK-nv8sl
    @MK-nv8sl 2 месяца назад +20

    Most of the assumptions are dubious, especially the dividend paying model itself. The reason why NVIDIA has been rising so fast is not related to dividend expectations - it is related to AI market size expectations. The market size is estimated by AMD’s CEO as four hundred billion, and will grow. NVIDIA has 90% of it. A lot more valid question is whether the current AI technology based on transformer model will cool off and be replaced with a more general AI methodology and require less compute. Less compute is highly unlikely, probably a lot more compute will be needed.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      All business value is rooted in the future dividend capacity, which NVDA has an insanely high amount of.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      By the way, dividend yield on cost would be 18% at a $380 billion payout in 15 years. They could easily do that, if earnings grew as forecasted. The AI narrative is driving earnings, which drives dividends. They aren’t relevant now, but they will eventually be very relevant and drive a lot of the future value of NVDA.

    • @thomasslinger287
      @thomasslinger287 2 месяца назад +1

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA I dont buy your funny made up math nor your self promoting of yourself to make money for yourself. Lot of evil people playing stupid games.

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      @phillipperkins5476 Месяц назад

      @@thomasslinger287 huh??

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      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA​​⁠ An idea that all business valuations must be based on dividend payoff calculation is a formal exercise similar to an idea of a non-existent “rational investor”. There are no rational investors - this is a long outdated fantasy.

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  • @zebbie09
    @zebbie09 2 месяца назад +11

    I bought Apple in 2008…. This feels a lot like Apple in 2011 or so. I am sure there were a lot of Apple bears back then too. The thing I like about Nvidia is the business model. How it has solutions across vertical markets and how it is offering software as well. And now they are working on robots?
    So with me, the good news is that I have owned since 2022. The bad news is that I further jumped on the hype train and added to my position at these levels. The main issue is executing to meet demand. If it can meet demand, it can absolutely continue this run….

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +2

      Very well stated and that could definitely be a good parallel. They have the runway; can they execute and meet expectations? Time will tell…

    • @ThiiiiiisGuy
      @ThiiiiiisGuy Месяц назад

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA I’m watching this curious how April first will go lol. Obviously I won’t get my answer until it comes. But I am attempting to exit Nvidia at a good price before going to s&p500

  • @littleturtle5818
    @littleturtle5818 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for the video, I have a better understanding of how the DCF model works now.
    Looks like that 1) in order to use the DCF model, one would need to make a lot of assumptions, the result would almost never be accurate, 2) it's more important to understand a company's business than the DCF model itself, 3) I think the vast majority of people buying or intending to buy a stock, even if long-term investors, would not hold for more than a few years, instead, most of them just want to catch the few year period of the high growth, once the growth slows down, they will get out.

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    @florin2tube 2 месяца назад

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  • @lsuandy9902
    @lsuandy9902 Месяц назад +2

    The future potentials of NVDA is unpredictable, I think it will be much larger than anything we've seen. And I think it's not too late to jump on the NVDA train. I bought shares since 2020, held on to them in 2022, and plan to hold most of my shares until 2030.

  • @BubbaBlackmon
    @BubbaBlackmon 2 месяца назад +2

    Warren Buffet said "in the early 1900's , if you could see 100 years into the future , the millions of cars on the road, an obvious investment would have been automobile manufactures. However of the hundreds of companies that tried to build cars only 3 survived".
    People are paying premium prices for any company mentioning involvement in AI. NVDA will likely do well but a lot of money could be lost over paying for companies that will not meet expectations related to AI.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, obvious industry trends aren’t always good investments; NVDA definitely has moat characteristics and winner-take-all dynamics, unlike car companies, but the market is definitely pricing a lot in.

  • @raysilva3148
    @raysilva3148 2 месяца назад +3

    Some mutual funds only invest in stocks that pay dividends (like total return funds), I can only guess it’s why NVDA pays this small dividend. Otherwise they can invest it to expand growth.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly. Eventually they will pay big dividends, but only when insane growth phase is over. That’s why they haven’t raised the dividend in years; good call by their management team.

  • @shinsource
    @shinsource 2 месяца назад +3

    I think the move right now we're seeing in Nvidia is a technical push to force a stock split, historically most stock splits on megacaps are bullish short term. The liquidity from 500-1000 on Nvidia is quite thin looking at volume profile. Bidding up on low volume will generate extra volume for big institutions to sell into. I think if expectations don't meet in a future ER we're setting up for one of the biggest gap downs on a megacap ever, similar to NFLX.

    • @BrandononIce-sk7fx
      @BrandononIce-sk7fx 2 месяца назад +4

      I think technical analysis is too one-dimensional for this generational quantum leap in technology. Sure, the big desks will jerk the rug out from underneath the weak holders from time to time, but the fact remains that NVDA can sell everything it makes, with pricing power, for the next several years.

    • @shinsource
      @shinsource 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BrandononIce-sk7fx Yes but can you really expect exponential gains from here after already adding 1T marketcap in the past 3 months? I remember the Tesla hype back in 2021 when the stock was 1200 presplit everyone was hyping it to be 2000+ within 3 years, now look at it. The major customers of Nvidia is heavily concentrated, if just 1 of them shifts stance or tapers off purchases then the forward P/E will skyrocket.

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles 2 месяца назад +3

      @@shinsource all technology is built on quicksand. Proof of that is in the fortunes of Sun Microsystems, EMC, Lucent, JDS Uniphase, Intel, etc. All were darlings until the ground shifted from under them.
      As a holder of a small position of NVDA, I plan on adding more on pullbacks & holding for a year or two. But I'll be watching the market like a hawk for any changes in the technology & demand. Atm, nvda is miles away from any competitor. And I expect that to be the case for at least 3 years, maybe 5.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Excellent discussion here. Lots of good points back and forth. I can see both the bullish and bearish cases.

    • @Koushi82
      @Koushi82 2 месяца назад

      hey dont tell them the truth they wanna pump and dump more

  • @muskyful
    @muskyful 2 месяца назад +8

    Started buying PLTR ( $10.80 dca) & NVDA ($170 dca) in 2022 for a 5-7 yr hold .... now my only wish is I should have loaded up even more !!!

  • @danwesson1934
    @danwesson1934 Месяц назад

    I would be curious to hear your thoughts on HSY. Its not flashy or anything but like what is brings to the table. Good growth and dividend keeps chugging along.

  • @juandiaz3651
    @juandiaz3651 2 месяца назад +2

    If I am not mistaken they expect a growth of about 30% for the coming years which for a 2 T$ company is absolutely crazy. But 20% over the next 15 years seems a little too much. I think if they achieved that growth in the short term it could hike up the price and it could be a good opportunity to sell, or maybe this one is one to coffee can?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      Could be an interesting coffee can, for sure!

    • @robbrown4621
      @robbrown4621 2 месяца назад +3

      Anyone who thinks they have any idea on what an industry, much less a particular company, will be doing in 15 years is woefully deceiving themselves. The horizon is never more than five years and that's a long, long way off...

  • @chrisdowns422
    @chrisdowns422 2 месяца назад +1

    The company can buy back shares. But that's the same as paying dividends in terms of an increased percentage of ownership in the company.

  • @onuri1540
    @onuri1540 Месяц назад +1

    Is there any other stocks like Nvidia?

  • @Bob-ke9in
    @Bob-ke9in Месяц назад

    Thankyou Nathan for that quality analysis of Nvidia. I own a bit and do agree that I would not be a buyer at the current price. However, I don't believe your dividend discount analysis considers the price of the stock at the end of the time period. All things being equal increased earnings and dividends should lead to an increased in the stock price. Shouldn't that estimate should also be factored into return on investment calculations?

  • @tukkukuorma608
    @tukkukuorma608 Месяц назад

    So if i understood correctly, nvidia stock would be worth 940$ if we would proceed the next 15 years with 20% growth? And only with better results than that would the stock be justified to rise? Isnt that almost impossible to occur

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Месяц назад

      No, 20% growth results in a 10% or so annual return, which is about what the overall market tends to make.

    • @tukkukuorma608
      @tukkukuorma608 Месяц назад

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA can you make a video about the concerns of a looming recession, and stock market crash?

  • @gregplott3870
    @gregplott3870 2 месяца назад +17

    5 or 6 to 1 split should be coming in 2024.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Does that make it a better value or something?

    • @jackchoy6969
      @jackchoy6969 2 месяца назад +1

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA Absolutely not. But it makes it better for options traders who could care less about value and more on gambling.

    • @HeroDai2448
      @HeroDai2448 2 месяца назад +1

      I think they are waiting for the 1K

    • @Matthew.M.S.
      @Matthew.M.S. 2 месяца назад +1

      Greg: 1 x $100 = $100. 2:1 Split! 2 x $50 = $100
      Stocks go down after the split all the time since the split didn’t make a difference, if if goes up after a split it’s not due to the split

    • @javaChai
      @javaChai 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Matthew.M.S. not true. SMH went up parabolic after split. Becomes more affordable to retail investors

  • @themusic6808
    @themusic6808 2 месяца назад +10

    I hold Nvidia as a small long position because I think it’s silly not to when a company is this dynamic & well positioned for the future as well as vertically integrated in different aspects of technology growing revenues like they have. But I wouldn’t bet the whole house on them. AI is more than likely to change the world over the next few decades but the exact timeline is always uncertain and of course it won’t only be one company that leads it. Still a fantastic company irregardless of valuation and an exciting growth story.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +3

      Excellent points; I agree that it is dynamic. Very possible that it can do 20%+ over the next 15 years-even exceed it. Appreciate your comments

    • @themusic6808
      @themusic6808 2 месяца назад +1

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA Thank you Nathan. None of the current metrics or valuations point to Nvidia being even close to a Cisco yet the bigger they are the harder they can fall. Though it’s not unheard for a disruptive company to make exorbitant returns if they’re so far out ahead of what’s coming look at Microsoft from 1987-1997 did close to a 50,000% return.

  • @jeffrose5622
    @jeffrose5622 2 месяца назад +17

    NVIDIA will be a minimum $1,200 stock by the end of 2024 and most likely a $1,500 stock!

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +7

      Comments like this are what make me more confident in the opposite.

    • @gokhanarslan6320
      @gokhanarslan6320 2 месяца назад

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA Then I am saying "NVIDIA will be a maximum $100 stock by the end of 2024" to cancel out his comment

    • @Itsmetahh
      @Itsmetahh 2 месяца назад

      @@gokhanarslan6320 so stock split, gotcha. Right ?

    • @HoverHP
      @HoverHP 2 месяца назад +2

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA He's probably somewhat right lol

    • @jeffrose5622
      @jeffrose5622 Месяц назад

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA short it DF.

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  • @aybjorkk
    @aybjorkk 2 месяца назад +11

    i heard all in nvda

  • @jacqyeh
    @jacqyeh 2 месяца назад +10

    You are telling me NVDA is not going to out perform Chiptole?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +3

      😂

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      @rickytran2378 2 месяца назад +2

      America sure does love its Burrito bowls

    • @chessmagician2024
      @chessmagician2024 Месяц назад

      If NVDA got bid up to 100 trillion market cap, do you still think it would outperform chipotle? Fundamentals matter. You can have the best growing company in the world and on the next 30 years but that doesn’t make it a good investment if it has an astronomical market cap already.

  • @kdjones5149
    @kdjones5149 Месяц назад +2

    I bought about $5,000 worth of Nvidia at $36 per share. I made the mistake of selling $20,000 when it got to $500, and another $30,000 when it got to $750.
    I still have almost $40k left. If I had not sold any, my $5k investment would be worth $90k.
    I've never had a stock increase more than 100% before. I'm going to hang on to the rest of this stock.

    • @MARKXHWANG
      @MARKXHWANG Месяц назад

      just but it back. a rull to sccessful investment. buy 10% more if stock increase 10%. sell verses versa

  • @faureh
    @faureh 2 месяца назад +1

    10% discount rate is 🌶️ Would be interesting if you showed a rate sensitivity matrix.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Is that a hot pepper? Is that good thing? 😂

    • @Koushi82
      @Koushi82 2 месяца назад

      reserve ratio is 0% its infinite since banks have infinite liquidity while faking 5% hurts them

  • @cirilada1988
    @cirilada1988 2 месяца назад +6

    Great analysis!
    My only point is that the revenue will be around 120B this fiscal year (just look projections), which in your analysis should be happening in 4 to 5 years from now.
    In my opinion, this makes the stock cheap now.

  • @susanwingard3389
    @susanwingard3389 Месяц назад

    How does Apples products cost, profit and available market compare to NVDA’s GPU cost, profit and market? Most expensive IPhone is what $1,600 and GPU’s are selling for $40,000 per unit? If what they are saying about AI, the need for chips will feed into all products. While NVDA will have a lot of competition, it is currently said that the competition is years behind. Does the above not come into play when considering valuation?

  • @venkatavineel
    @venkatavineel 2 месяца назад +4

    AAPL is not building their own gen AI. They are using Googles. So they are not competing with NVDA in AI.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      True. Good point. 👍

    • @user-ef1ng8th5l
      @user-ef1ng8th5l 2 месяца назад

      I agree but want to add Apple does have it's own AI & for some reason want to include google idk understand it all yet but guess they have a good reason .. they are not taking AI lightly.

  • @rubidiumcratchet3420
    @rubidiumcratchet3420 2 месяца назад +6

    time to buy more nvda

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      That’s pretty much been right on for about 20 years, so I won’t bet against it lol

  • @A_francis
    @A_francis Месяц назад +6

    My preference for NVIDIA stems from their superior positioning in terms of sustaining long-term growth potential and serving as a platform for other AI startups. Are there any other industries that I should diversify my $750k portfolio across? seeking to build a diverse portfolio

    • @Debbie.Burton
      @Debbie.Burton Месяц назад +5

      Nvidia stock is roaring like many did during the 1990s bubble. But this time around, the hype around new chips is happening in a more mature demand environment.

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  • @mdashfak98
    @mdashfak98 2 месяца назад

    Absolutely Brilliantly said,without dividend prospects to me a company is just a Bogus selfish Big 0..it doesn't make any sense to me at all equity investment without dividend at some point

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      For NVDA at $380 billion dividends in 15 years, that’s an 18% yield on cost, don’t conflate my point about dividends with “NVDA has no value.” That wasn’t what I was saying at all.

  • @larrypaul-cw9nk
    @larrypaul-cw9nk Месяц назад +3

    I keep telling both friends and family; Now is the perfect time to own a Tech Stock, With everything going on and seeing how the world is been run by AI and all Tech is here to stay and you don’t want to miss it

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  • @jerryyapkh
    @jerryyapkh Месяц назад +4

    Why are you using dividends model on a high growth stock? Not all investor buy a stock for dividend and in fact most don't. It's for capital appreciation. Dividend of US stocks are peanut in comparison

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Месяц назад

      The discounted present value of future dividends are the basis for the value of all businesses.

    • @kimb6508
      @kimb6508 Месяц назад

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA I follow real hedge fund managers and they use specific valuations for growth stocks. Traditional valuation methods don't apply here.

  • @Janaerys
    @Janaerys 2 месяца назад +3

    I am not sure i agree this model of valuation works for NVDA specifically. There multiple ways to return value to investors outside of dividends like stock appreciation and buybacks. Right? You could use the same argument and say BRK.B is valueless to an investor who went in 15 or 20 years ago because Buffet refuses to pay out dividends.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      The point is not at all that they are valueless. Re-watch it and you’ll see that. They have a ton of value. Future dividends at $380 billion would be an 18% yield on cost in 15 years. 😉

    • @Janaerys
      @Janaerys 2 месяца назад

      @NathanWinklepleckCFA I am not sure anyone would care if NVDA stopped dividend payouts entirely. One couldn't possibly be investing in this growth stock for expected dividend returns.

  • @karlbe8414
    @karlbe8414 2 месяца назад +10

    My NVDA is currently at +495% :)

    • @karlhanso
      @karlhanso 2 месяца назад +2

      meanwhile other argue that is bubble others buy and wait patiently

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Coffee can! I like it. Congrats on a great stock pick.

  • @crazyPinay
    @crazyPinay 2 месяца назад

    What is your price prediction for NVIDIA for Monday March 2025? That’s a good content. daily price prediction.

  • @FatherGapon-gw6yo
    @FatherGapon-gw6yo 4 дня назад

    Its pretty hard to avoid AI bubble stocks but I’ve tried pretty hard and done well. Semiconductors I like okay since they do amazing products outside of even AI. There’s foreign markets, equal weighting S&P, small cap, Dow etc etc.
    Probably everyone’s 401k has more Nvidia than anyone could ever possibly want. No need in regular portfolio.

  • @bigbillyz
    @bigbillyz Месяц назад +1

    Not sure how you derived the revenue guesstimates

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Месяц назад +1

      I backed into them reverse engineering market value to what they need to grow at

  • @yusufozarslan1796
    @yusufozarslan1796 Месяц назад

    Why not,still not overvalued considering growth and potential

  • @Gandalf17
    @Gandalf17 2 месяца назад +2

    I still dont see companies replacing employees with AI, i dont see AI making money making machines.

    • @robbrown4621
      @robbrown4621 2 месяца назад +4

      I recall my great grandmother telling me that she couldn't believe that there would ever be light without fire.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +2

      I agree; I think this is like computers-makes people more productive, but not replacing them entirely

    • @robbrown4621
      @robbrown4621 2 месяца назад

      Thank you for your reply.
      In my view I think we may see a plethora of very different outcomes, some of which will replace all human beings in certain processes and in others humans will be serving in partnership within certain particular AI paradigms.
      One thing for sure, this will dwarf what computers have so far brought to humanity.
      My feeling is that AI will be much closer to the development of electricity as a game changer (the most important human scientific development since the creation of the wheel) than either computers, the internet, or NASA.
      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA

    • @xumarc9876
      @xumarc9876 Месяц назад

      So u are roughly saying that Msft and Meta are doing the dumbest things.They are investing tons of dollars for nothing…

  • @bigbillyz
    @bigbillyz Месяц назад +1

    Do this again using free cash flow pls

  • @Sebas66301
    @Sebas66301 2 месяца назад +4

    I mean the earnings reassured the stock price and growth but why didn’t anyone buy when it was under 150 !! ? 😂

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +5

      Someone did 😜

    • @user-vm7ey9pu3o
      @user-vm7ey9pu3o 2 месяца назад +4

      Got in at $46.00

    • @Sebas66301
      @Sebas66301 2 месяца назад

      @@user-vm7ey9pu3o that’s great but have you trimmed any along the way especially within the last month ? And how of your portfolio is NVDA ? 10 percent 2 percent ? It’s not about when you got in it’s about how do you manage the winner and the mental part of owning this stock .

    • @jrsands
      @jrsands 2 месяца назад

      @@user-vm7ey9pu3oFive years ago. The catalyst was it acquired Mellanox in 2019.

    • @user-ef1ng8th5l
      @user-ef1ng8th5l 2 месяца назад +1

      I bought for much less than that like $30 because i read i listened to the genius visionary Jensen Huang & intuitively knew this co was not just a game chip & crypto co. I just saw the future of it & i held every share.. even when it was being dismissed.

  • @michellehavre6821
    @michellehavre6821 18 дней назад

    I used your analysis 15 years ago and sold all my Berkshire stocks as it pays no dividend. Today as we can see Berkshire has pay zero dividend and I am so grateful to your warning that this company is worth zero. Thank you

  • @DarakeDivz
    @DarakeDivz 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the rational analysis. Your method (and the many of the illogical comments) prove firsthand why value stocks have out-performed growth over the long haul. Cheers

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! Lots of passionate people about NVDA calling me a moron lol I’m not necessarily against it; I own some myself. Just trying to estimate what the market thinks it will grow long-term and people are so mad. I don’t understand what I did so wrong 😂

  • @JimMcNutty
    @JimMcNutty 2 месяца назад +2

    Valuation only can tell you so much. You can make money on hype and overvaluation. Is it risky yes but worth the risk. Yes trust me as it’s a big part of my portfolio. Are you late to the party, for sure. However, there is still a ton of upside. Valuation aside this can get crazy and irrational. That’s when you want to sell. We are not there yet.

  • @daninspiration4064
    @daninspiration4064 2 месяца назад +1

    Wait for it to dip under 880 then buy....and keep dcaing every 20 to 30 points...I am sure itll hit 1200 or higher at the end of the year.

  • @robertmccamman4630
    @robertmccamman4630 2 месяца назад +1

    I only buy the dips but we are seeing higher lows and higher highs.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      I gave up trying to buy dips. LOL that’s missed more stocks for me than anything else. I was waiting for GWW, PGR, MMC, MUSA, NVR, and many more to dip… They never did.

    • @robertmccamman4630
      @robertmccamman4630 Месяц назад

      I think if I will stick with NVDA, META, AMZN, and GOOGL and do just fine. It really comes down to what is your level of greed (in the good sense). Once the FOMC starts cutting the interest rates money will flow back into stocks from bonds. If you go into options you can make money whether the market goes up or down. As I get older the stock market has become a game for me; you just need to keep track of the market trend.

    • @robertmccamman4630
      @robertmccamman4630 Месяц назад

      You just had dips in the above stocks in Feb/March, I guess you missed it.

  • @horizontaldad
    @horizontaldad 2 месяца назад

    Well I didn’t miss the train on NVDA … what a powerhouse. I have taken out my investment plus a generous additional amount … it’s one of our best investments ever and our second largest position behind Apple. I really appreciate your thoughtful analysis. Perhaps it will morph into a workhorse like TXN and if it slowly does then
    I will slowly decrease our position size … but I’m more concerned with NVDA being taken to the woodshed someday. But no one knows the future. Thanks again Nathan.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Great buy, Kimm! It’ll slow eventually, but for now it looks like full steam ahead. Not in a bubble at all, from what I can tell.

    • @horizontaldad
      @horizontaldad 2 месяца назад

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA… yes it’s the earnings! … I’ve never seen this before … and the outstanding leadership is likely the reason

  • @armandavarvaroi6436
    @armandavarvaroi6436 2 месяца назад

    What is the best website to start investing¿

  • @robertwalker9670
    @robertwalker9670 Месяц назад +1

    Just bought Nvidia a week ago. I wish that I wouldve saw this video before.

  • @jimpurewal2661
    @jimpurewal2661 Месяц назад +1

    Nvidia is not just a financial calculation. The value based on PE/PEG is very cheap. It is all about the need to understand what NVIDIA does and if you believe that market is massive. I bought NVIDIA in 2020 pre-split and am at 12X. I have not sold a single share since I spent a lot of time understanding their technology and not the TV pundits. NVIDIA sells a platform and not just chips. BTW its H100 weighs 70lbs and has 35000 components. Good luck.

  • @robertmccamman4630
    @robertmccamman4630 Месяц назад

    I think NVDA is a buy at $875. It may be another month before we get any updates of the company sales and revenues. Also a stock split will happen in 2024 and energize more retail investors. I see $1,100 as my target for end of 2024 (adjusted for split).

  • @Wha2les
    @Wha2les 2 месяца назад +6

    If i were to buy 1 AI stock, it is Nvidia. They are market leader, not complacent, and AMD and Intel would need to do a lot to catch up... And the chip industry shows that is hard to do.

  • @falgunpatil2372
    @falgunpatil2372 Месяц назад

    I'm all for doing all research/analysis to your heart's content but in the end expect the answer - whether you would buy a given stock at current price or not? 🤔I'm buying NVDA today and have a strong conviction that I will make more than market return in one year! I And I respect each and everyone who share their their opinion for or against it as they need to vote with their own $$ 😄

  • @rickytran2378
    @rickytran2378 2 месяца назад +1

    so did you answer the question? Is it a buy at $940?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад

      LOL 😂 you are the first one to figure that out… I never actually gave my opinion. Everyone in the comment section seems to think I said not to buy it, but the entire point was… can they grow at 20%+ over the next 15 years? That’s iPhone-level growth. If they can, it’s worth current valuation. If more than 20%, it’s still a buy. If less than 20%, then it’s overpriced-how much depends on how much they disappoint.

    • @rickytran2378
      @rickytran2378 Месяц назад

      I am definitely not buying at this price. I have been buying from the $300 to $600 range. I will buy again if it drops back down to the last time i bought in the $680s. @@NathanWinklepleckCFA

  • @MoEl-yt6eo
    @MoEl-yt6eo 2 месяца назад

    Is 8k enough to see alot of profits ?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Depends on how much % that is for your net worth, but I’d say do what makes sense for your portfolio. I own some NVDA, but it’s a relatively small percentage of my portfolio.

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      @MoEl-yt6eo Месяц назад

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  • @BrandononIce-sk7fx
    @BrandononIce-sk7fx 2 месяца назад +2

    NVDA is signing deals with all kinds of companies. Even my old employer (I'm retired) that specializes in the digital transformation of energy management and automation is partnering with NVDA to develop publicly available AI data center reference designs for the rapidly-growing, power-hungry data center industry being spawned by AI.

  • @TYTY-qh8uh
    @TYTY-qh8uh Месяц назад

    Nice

  • @ibraheemali9541
    @ibraheemali9541 7 часов назад

    They are doing stock split

  • @userjoe4321
    @userjoe4321 Месяц назад +1

    Maybe. But be careful not to be the one holding the bag. When this stock corrects... I think it will be years before it gets back to its current price.

    • @userjoe4321
      @userjoe4321 Месяц назад

      @HD-um6yw all the best 👍

  • @ibraheemali9541
    @ibraheemali9541 7 часов назад

    From 300 to 900 its a 200% gain i guess

  • @xanbarclaps9090
    @xanbarclaps9090 Месяц назад

    Based off of your analysis would you have been just as hesitant on nvda 5 or so years ago? Many conservative or ‘rational’ investors try to rationalize why an ‘expensive’ stock can’t climb higher with various types of analysis.

  • @robertmccamman4630
    @robertmccamman4630 Месяц назад

    It is time to start nibbling on Nvidia as it goes into a dip.

  • @jeffrose5622
    @jeffrose5622 2 месяца назад +16

    NO ONE CARES ABOUT DIVIDENDS WITH NVIDIA!!! This is a growth stock. In one day with a $10 increase you'll make more on the stock then a years worth of dividends!!

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +5

      Did you watch the video?

    • @fictionalreality1010
      @fictionalreality1010 2 месяца назад +1

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFAunfortunately

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      They will care when the dividends are $380 billion and 18% yield on today’s price in 15 years.

    • @karlhanso
      @karlhanso 2 месяца назад +2

      Nvidia make buybacks that move increase the price of the stock. Dividens dont matter to much

    • @thenerdnetwork
      @thenerdnetwork 2 месяца назад +3

      @@fictionalreality1010 If you watched the video, you would understand why he is talking about first vs. second level of thinking. You and obviously the OP of the comment thread you are replying to, are a part of the first level of thinking. You think "Derrr NVDA is growth stock, AI go boom, me invest now and money grow big!". You are investing on pure speculation without an using any variables beyond that to decide if you should invest or not. This video isn't about that, it is about showing you the second level of thinking, that shows you how to apply an actual model to a company when valuating a stock price. Even if you aren't interested in learning how to use calculations when trying to evaluate a stock, at least show respect for people who do understand how to do the calculations and who take the time to try and explain it to people so maybe it can help them... for free.

  • @masoncnc
    @masoncnc 2 месяца назад

    So what you're say is; there's a chance?

  • @simonvesterchristensen510
    @simonvesterchristensen510 2 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been holding on to NVIDIA since it cost only 15.57 USD. It’s an almost 6000% increase. Really hard to understand. I guess luck is important too.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Well done! Great buy. Appreciate your comment and support.

  • @mikedowell8465
    @mikedowell8465 Месяц назад +1

    I only have 10 shares

    • @rickchang-qt6jn
      @rickchang-qt6jn Месяц назад +1

      Please wait. About 50 shares on the way!

  • @albertlergier663
    @albertlergier663 2 месяца назад +2

    BUY, BUY, BUY.

  • @PooriaAzizi
    @PooriaAzizi Месяц назад

    How about selling NVDA? Should I sell some of the NVDA and invest in other stocks instead?

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    @DeannaMurray-zv Месяц назад

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      @BeverleeR.Ziegler Месяц назад

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      @Erickruiz562 Месяц назад

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  • @user-vu7rt7dn9i
    @user-vu7rt7dn9i Месяц назад

    Could someone just buy the invidia stock for mabee 2 or 3 months and then just sell it ? It seems as if it might be going up for at least that long. I understand it has already grown 2000 percent but at least another few months might have growth

  • @DefinitelyNotRin
    @DefinitelyNotRin 20 часов назад

    bro doesn't have one non bot comment on the video

  • @SuvviSanthosh
    @SuvviSanthosh 2 месяца назад +14

    NVIDA is impacting each and every company and every sector to transition to AI, it is very foolish not to hold it long term. I think it will be the first 5T company very soon and may very well be first 10T in next few years

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      You could definitely be right! Thanks for the comment.

    • @lc285
      @lc285 2 месяца назад

      @NathanWinklepleckCFA - What would the fair market stock price be based on current Financials?

  • @robertmccamman4630
    @robertmccamman4630 2 месяца назад +13

    I hesitated when netflix, microsoft, and apple trains left the station but I hopped aboard nvidia trains and it is making up for all my previous misses. I'm sorry you just watched the nvidia train leave the station and lost your chance to make millions. Better luck on your future decisions but I'm staying with this ride.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +4

      Who says I don’t own it?

    • @user-ef1ng8th5l
      @user-ef1ng8th5l 2 месяца назад

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA because if you did & knew what Nvdia is capable of you wouldn't do a ridiculous analysis about dividends!!!!

    • @crohmer
      @crohmer 2 месяца назад

      Jerk store is open folks

    • @crohmer
      @crohmer 2 месяца назад

      Grow up you guys

  • @DoseBoi303
    @DoseBoi303 2 месяца назад

    How could stock buybacks factor into the equation? Nvidia does a lot of buybacks

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      Their share count doesn’t decrease much: mostly it appears to offset share dilution.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  2 месяца назад +1

      But buybacks are equal to dividends if done at fair prices, worse if done at overvalued prices, and better if done at undervalued prices-so it depends.

  • @BrisLS1
    @BrisLS1 Месяц назад

    Thanks, I will maybe pause on my loading up of 950/960 call spreads for 2025. Got enough not to have to feel FOMO when it blasts through 1000.

  • @sebastiaanthijn7982
    @sebastiaanthijn7982 Месяц назад +8

    But my question is what stocks can be the next APPL in terms of growth for the next decade? I've set asides 500k to invest and my goal is to retire comfortably rich.

    • @georgeearling905
      @georgeearling905 Месяц назад

      finding it more productive and safe to buy growth/ blue-chip stocks rather than tech stocks. It's advisable to work with a fiduciary advisor for well-diversified portfolios instead of relying solely on speculations.

    • @christopherherbert2407
      @christopherherbert2407 Месяц назад

      Agreed, After taking charge of my portfolio in early 2017, i stumbled into losses. Upon realizing that a change was necessary, I consulted a fiduciary advisor in 2020 and since then my 1.2m portfolio has gained 28% annually through restructuring and diversification using dividend equities, ETFs, mutual funds, and REITs.

    • @ericbergman7546
      @ericbergman7546 Месяц назад

      That's a nice gain! How did you find a good one

    • @cherylhills3227
      @cherylhills3227 Месяц назад

      I Find quality stocks that have long term potential, and ride with those stocks. I have found it takes someone who is very familiar with the market to make such good picks.

    • @wehrine
      @wehrine Месяц назад

      I started investing on my own, but I lost a lot of money. I was able to pull out about 200,578 after the 2020 crash. I invested the money using an analyst, and in seven months, I raked in almost 673,000