Had the pleasure of playing with Crappy on that cruise. We had a great time and played with some great people. Staff was amazing as well. Crappy kept shooting the 6 that first night and helped me out big time!
Really enjoyed this system. I love creative systems like this that work in mysterious ways! I’ll have to give it a try, between modeling out with thousands of roles, my own table and my own local Casino. I do like it though it’s pretty cool :)
Great Strategy Crappy. Thanks for showing it. I play it like you with 1 change. I start at the $1 level and go 2 levels up to $3. Then I switch to reds at $5 and again go up 2 levels to $15. From there I got up to $25, and go up 2 levels to $75. From there I go to $100, and go up to $300. Start with $1000 - when you hit $4000. I stop resetting to $1, and start with $5. Tips for the stick man are anything that is left over from when you win the hardways, or the 2 & 12. e.g if you got to $50 and win, you tip them $50.
Played this on a random number generator craps simulator (Wizard of Odds) and went over 7 every 6.5 sessions. The highest level was 12, hit that 3 times in 25 sessions. Definitely need a much larger bankroll and need to increase the number of units you ladder up once you get to around 7 or 8, depending on how many 7/11's you get as you ladder up. Off to excel land!
I developed a similar system in the past not including the YO. Only hop all 7's and all hards (hardways + 2 and 12), 9 bets total. If you do the same progression as Crappy did with just going up 1 unit per loss and you reset on hardway win you are in negatives on the 7 if you don't win within 2 hits and you are net negative if you don't hit a hardway within 5 rolls. He made an interesting choice to not reset after hitting a 7 or 11 which will make a drastic change in profit margins of this system. I like that choice. FYI with my 9 bets i would need a bank roll of $702 to be able to reach $12 on each hop, so you would need more than that to run it the way Crappy runs it.
WOW, this may be one of the best martingale systems ever! Hours of testing are next, Thank You Crappy (BTW Warning: Bruno from the Casino may be looking for you)
Interesting. I'm going to have to write up a WinCraps script and put a few other options to it (make Place Bets on the 5 & 9, start the Hop 7s at 2 rather than 1, etc.). I see this was posted a year ago but I read through all the comments anyways (all I can say is "Good Grief" you have way more patience with some of them then I would). Maybe you should create a stock reply that basically says "Please go read an introductory book on crap payments" and put a link into something on the internet (then again, this does assume they can read). I enjoy the videos, the rambling isn't that bad and besides it's the concept of the strategy not if you make an error during the roll. Roll on ...
Have you been playing this system regularly? If so how is it going? Here in Las Vegas most casinos have semi electronic craps where you have your own set of dice. Smaller casinos have a $1 minimum bet perfect for this system. They also have the ability to hop any bet. So you can take your time and roll when you are ready.
It's probably better on bubble craps strategy, for imo, most players will either miss a number or an inexperienced dealer will forget to pay for a number. Just my 2 cents.
You went to Cherokee, nice. I used to before Bristol, VA Hard Rock opened. Where are you from? I live in Eden, NC. I just started dealer school in Danville, VA. In my 3rd week. If you ever visit Danville, VA (Caesars Virginia Casino) when they open end of may or early June, I hope to see you. I have been going to Bristol, VA to play. If you ever take a trip there let me know. I am there almost every weekend. I usually play cold table unless someone is setting the dice. Then I play $35 on 6, $42 on 6 and 8, and $25 in field. Every number that is rolled except a 7 wins $24 or $25. (I play this when I shoot with $25 on pass line)
Crappy, I am a fairly "new" craps player. I am confused? How does a Hard 10 pay you 30:1. The hardways' bet pays 9:1? Looking at the table layout your paying more than the Table denotes.... What am I missing?
you just want to get your hardway bangers asap. With any martingale strategy (go up when you lose) you will bust out eventually in a big way if you have a long streak of no wins
Love your content. Thanks for the strategies. Had a great trip to Shreveport and made enough to pay for the trip! Quick question on the cold table steroids…would you ever pull down your don’t come from the 6 or 8 in an attempt to get a better don’t number?
@@brandonhaney2716 you can pull down the donts bc once you’ve dodged the 7 and 11 on the comeout you now have an edge over the house, and they’re happy to let you take those down :)
I play mostly at Murphy and occasionally Cherokee....Murphy free play coupons they send me are 9 times higher than Cherokee. Would really like to meet up and play at either one.
I tried this crap system on my home crap table and hit the 11 with one dollar on it and the seven with one dollar on it. I stopped when I had each number at seven dollars on each hard way and seven on the two, eleven, and the twelve. I made a total of $30 and lost $130.
Great video, as always, Crappy.... just curious...what's your "regular" job? Just 'cause you said your job "wasn't ready".... looking forward to the next video, as always!!
Hey Crappy I love this strategy! I’ve tried it out on my own and usually kill on it! I have gotten to level 11 a couple times so you have to have the bank to support it but it seems to win out! Did you retry it yet??
at level10 with no wins you are down $550, so "win" at level 11 is $330 and bring your $11 back and start over. starting down $220. I tried this on my computer and was up to level 10 a few times with no wins at all even hit level 12 one time. I believe this system is not very good. unless hitting lots of 7's, 11's along the way to a 30-1 payout.
Sounds like a keen strategy, Crappy. To play this at Level 6, you'd only need a bankroll of $210 ((1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6) * 10 hop bets). And since doubles come up an average of 1 out of 6 times, Level 6 seems reasonable. Looks like another winner, Crappy!
I wondered about that also ... they may get hit in the early rounds but I was thinking about starting the Hop 7s at 2 rather than 1 to cover them. I'll have to code up a WinCraps script and play with some options on this ... could be promising.
@@crappythecrapsman1107 Biloxi has absolutely killed their craps scene. went from 5 to 10 min. there is no one playing ....which i like ,but and if they are playing they have like 50 bucks and gone quick.
Ya, they did that here too (Ameristar-Omaha). They do have Bubble Crap machines but I swear those things are NOT true random rolls - I've seen things happen on those machines repeatedly that I've never seen happen on a true felt table while playing over the last 30 years. I may give this one a try just to see. Need something to play while waiting for an open slot at the felt.
I was just thinking of this strategy after being on a table that seemed to be horn or 7 I ended up going 7s and playing horn I hopped for 5 dollars on 7s and 1 dollar on each horn and hard way box numbers turned losing session into 700 profit
Try this system out. Place $30 on the pass line and $10 on the Don't pass line. When the point is made put $60 odds behind the $10 that you placed on the Don't pass line. If a 7 or 11 rolls you loose $10 but make $30 on the Pass Line. If a 2 or 3 rolls you loose $30 on the Pass Line and make $10 on the Don't Pass line. Once the shooter rolls a 6 or 8 for a point and then seven's out you make $60 and loose $30 on the Don't pass line. If the shooter rolls a 5 or 9 and then seven's out you loose $30 on the Pass Line and make $50 on the Don't pass line. If the shooter rolls a 4 or 10 and then sevens out you make $40 on the Don't pass line and loose $30 on the Pass Line.
The hole i see, and its a big one, is the 7's and 11's. If you ladder up and only hit 7's and 11's lets say after your on the 5th (5 dollars) try you are losing profits as it only pays 15 to 1 and by that time you are at a 100 dollar loss . Any other hit pays 30 to 1 to which would recover your losses.
At level 5, a 7 or 11 hit results in a net for that play of $30. ($75-45), so that reduces the cumulative loss by this $30. A good run of 7/11 can really help recover some losses as you wait for a hard way.
@@djbthunder I have a spread sheet of increasing bets, the only difference mine has is that I don't play the yo(11). I play all the hard ways and hop sevens. One thing to note, if you don't hit the sevens within 2 rolls you start losing money. You need to hit within the first 5 rolls on the hard bets to be able to recover all losses and restart back at one unit each.
So did some bs spreadsheet math on my phone quick, I'm no spreadsheet guy BTW, but unless I'm wrong you make money on every win, hardways or 7/11 up to a bet cover of 14 per bet, after that 7/11 stop paying and are a soft security where you don't loose as much. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong here
On your first roll out when you threw a "7" you said they will pay you $15. That's actually not true. They will pay you $13 because they will leave the other $2 up on your 7's. Just a little fyi..
What are you doing on the 7s? There are 6 ways to make a 7, not 3. Therefore to get a $30 payoff on 7, you would have to have 6 times as many chips on the 7, not 3 as you did.
Crappy...Are you playing 15 TO 1 or FOR 1? I ask because I'm 8 minutes into the video and your 1st roll was 7 and you paid $15 but replaced $10 (for) for the bets instead of keeping the $1 and replacing $9 (TO). You even said that you keep the $1 but replaced it.
I noticed that too. You were counting the winning bet in when you would rebuy. So if you have $1 on each and a 7 rolls, you only have to rebuy for $9 because you won on a Seven.
All strategies have an house edge. Minimum house edge strategy. Play the don't pass line and lay the max odds. There, that was simple. The math has already been done.
Ok. 25 pass line 125 odds pays What. $175 on 8 or 6 Take the same $150 place 8 or 6 pays $175. Come out advantage on the $25 8 ways to win 4 ways to lose Only advantage in this bet
spoke too soon. Tried it again with crapsee with a 500 bank roll. After 7 shooters im down to 50 bucks. Highest level I reached was level 10. It hits but you dont get the whole loss. After 2 stints of level 10 and level 9 it was too deep to get out of.
Same for me, three 500 sessions on Crapsee, all losses. I was up to about 950 on one session, so that was just being greedy. Lots of trips to level 9, 10, and 11. Not sustainable
Crappy is back! Missed your videos bro! Thanks for the update on the cruise 🛳 u was wondering how you did. I like this strategy too I'll have to try it sometime
Threw for 30 min yesterday the hardware set. Made over 1200. It was fun. Practice pays off 💯
Had the pleasure of playing with Crappy on that cruise. We had a great time and played with some great people. Staff was amazing as well. Crappy kept shooting the 6 that first night and helped me out big time!
Hey what’s up. That was some good times.for sure
Really enjoyed this system. I love creative systems like this that work in mysterious ways! I’ll have to give it a try, between modeling out with thousands of roles, my own table and my own local Casino. I do like it though it’s pretty cool :)
Great Strategy Crappy. Thanks for showing it. I play it like you with 1 change. I start at the $1 level and go 2 levels up to $3. Then I switch to reds at $5 and again go up 2 levels to $15. From there I got up to $25, and go up 2 levels to $75. From there I go to $100, and go up to $300. Start with $1000 - when you hit $4000. I stop resetting to $1, and start with $5. Tips for the stick man are anything that is left over from when you win the hardways, or the 2 & 12. e.g if you got to $50 and win, you tip them $50.
Played this on a random number generator craps simulator (Wizard of Odds) and went over 7 every 6.5 sessions. The highest level was 12, hit that 3 times in 25 sessions.
Definitely need a much larger bankroll and need to increase the number of units you ladder up once you get to around 7 or 8, depending on how many 7/11's you get as you ladder up.
Off to excel land!
VERY interesting strategy!!!
This was NOT confusing at all and I CLEARLY understood EVERYTHING you said!!!
I developed a similar system in the past not including the YO. Only hop all 7's and all hards (hardways + 2 and 12), 9 bets total. If you do the same progression as Crappy did with just going up 1 unit per loss and you reset on hardway win you are in negatives on the 7 if you don't win within 2 hits and you are net negative if you don't hit a hardway within 5 rolls. He made an interesting choice to not reset after hitting a 7 or 11 which will make a drastic change in profit margins of this system. I like that choice. FYI with my 9 bets i would need a bank roll of $702 to be able to reach $12 on each hop, so you would need more than that to run it the way Crappy runs it.
This is Giga
It would take $780 to cover all 10 bets up to the $12 level, so not much more for the YO
Hoppa! (Craps, 7s & Hardways) Nice video. Glad you did well on the cruise!
Thanks for the ramblin’. I was looking forward to hearing about your cruise. The cruise giveth and the Cherokee taketh away.
pretty sure theres a name for that but I'm not trying to get kicked off youtube lol
@@MichiBuck12 Ha! I didn't think of that until you mentioned it. Context is everything.
Enjoyed the video. Looking forward to the next one!
I the stories Crappy.....and your craps thoughts/stratigies. You are ALL GOOD...!!! THANKS for sharing...Peace....
Looks like a Great strategy. Very unique. Keep it going.
Cool little strategy. Enjoyed the video.
Interestlng. Please let us know what happens tomorrow. Thanks
Good to see ya back. Thanks for the video.
Pretty easy to follow, great explanations....
Good video I'm heading for a cruise tomorrow for a week and I'm gonna try some of your strategies. Was in Atlantic city last week and won $450
WOW, this may be one of the best martingale systems ever! Hours of testing are next, Thank You Crappy (BTW Warning: Bruno from the Casino may be looking for you)
Interesting. I'm going to have to write up a WinCraps script and put a few other options to it (make Place Bets on the 5 & 9, start the Hop 7s at 2 rather than 1, etc.). I see this was posted a year ago but I read through all the comments anyways (all I can say is "Good Grief" you have way more patience with some of them then I would). Maybe you should create a stock reply that basically says "Please go read an introductory book on crap payments" and put a link into something on the internet (then again, this does assume they can read). I enjoy the videos, the rambling isn't that bad and besides it's the concept of the strategy not if you make an error during the roll. Roll on ...
Have you been playing this system regularly? If so how is it going? Here in Las Vegas most casinos have semi electronic craps where you have your own set of dice. Smaller casinos have a $1 minimum bet perfect for this system. They also have the ability to hop any bet. So you can take your time and roll when you are ready.
Can we get an update on how this is going if it’s still being used? Have other members of this channel used it?
It's probably better on bubble craps strategy, for imo, most players will either miss a number or an inexperienced dealer will forget to pay for a number. Just my 2 cents.
Thanks Crappy. Keep working that angle. Little profit is better than no profit.
I like it. Gonna try at home first and if it works on 3 separate sessions, I'll go to the casino with it. Looks like a good one. 👍
Thinking out-of-the-box which I like but a small profit isn't worth an ulcer. Your last words were the best "Friends don't let friends Martingale"
Brilliant for random rollers or dice setters. You better tip the stick as you play to keep them happy about this strategy.
You went to Cherokee, nice. I used to before Bristol, VA Hard Rock opened.
Where are you from?
I live in Eden, NC.
I just started dealer school in Danville, VA. In my 3rd week.
If you ever visit Danville, VA (Caesars Virginia Casino) when they open end of may or early June, I hope to see you.
I have been going to Bristol, VA to play. If you ever take a trip there let me know. I am there almost every weekend.
I usually play cold table unless someone is setting the dice. Then I play $35 on 6, $42 on 6 and 8, and $25 in field. Every number that is rolled except a 7 wins $24 or $25. (I play this when I shoot with $25 on pass line)
i must be unlucky, 30 mins in got to lvl 8 one roll and lvl 9 on another roll (ran out of money)
It gambling
Crappy, I am a fairly "new" craps player. I am confused? How does a Hard 10 pay you 30:1. The hardways' bet pays 9:1? Looking at the table layout your paying more than the Table denotes.... What am I missing?
I would love you to do the math like you mentioned for adjustments. Also what is the ideal perfect roll ?
you just want to get your hardway bangers asap. With any martingale strategy (go up when you lose) you will bust out eventually in a big way if you have a long streak of no wins
Love your content. Thanks for the strategies. Had a great trip to Shreveport and made enough to pay for the trip! Quick question on the cold table steroids…would you ever pull down your don’t come from the 6 or 8 in an attempt to get a better don’t number?
You can’t pull down a DC it’s a contract bet, if I’m not mistaken.
No You can but I wouldn’t
@@crappythecrapsman1107 Thanks! Avoid the risk of the 7 next and losing the don’t come while trying to reset?
@@brandonhaney2716 you can pull down the donts bc once you’ve dodged the 7 and 11 on the comeout you now have an edge over the house, and they’re happy to let you take those down :)
Lost $1500 bankroll on crapsee 1st round. Got to level 18 and lost it all in 34 rolls. I must be unlucky lol. I'll try it again
Doesn’t the casino require a field, pass or don’t pass bet before you can make the hop bets?
Hi crappy. Always enjoy your videos 😊
I like this!!!
Have you tried replacing the $1 Hard Way Hops with $2 "regular" Hard Ways?
Great video, try going $1 on 2/4/6/8/10/12 and $2 7s/11 for $14 per level….roughly $770 to go 10 levels. Reset on all wins.
Headed to Vegas soon? Im going Mar 30 and would like to see some monster shooters
I play mostly at Murphy and occasionally Cherokee....Murphy free play coupons they send me are 9 times higher than Cherokee. Would really like to meet up and play at either one.
Can you retest strategy except use the extra $10 from hitting 7 or 11 to press? You'd ladder quicker but wins would be proportionally larger.
What happened at the casino when you played this strategy??
I tried this crap system on my home crap table and hit the 11 with one dollar on it and the seven with one dollar on it. I stopped when I had each number at seven dollars on each hard way and seven on the two, eleven, and the twelve. I made a total of $30 and lost $130.
What cruise line did you go on? Not all cruise lines are the same. This is an interesting strategy, however, it is not one that I would play.
Nice strategy, I'd like to try this on bubble craps
Thanks for the amazing content! a true craps guy!
when you hit the nine why did it not pay on the field? ????????
Are the 7 and 11 hop bets also?
Why are you not playing on the ‘Hard Ways’ field which is not a one roll bet and you won’ lose if the roll is not a hard way??
I need to take a cruise vacation soon. Congratulations on your last winning streak, bud😃👍
Next fall going to plan one and try to get a bunch of players to go Pool all day craps all night. !!!
Great video, as always, Crappy.... just curious...what's your "regular" job? Just 'cause you said your job "wasn't ready".... looking forward to the next video, as always!!
Hey Crappy I love this strategy! I’ve tried it out on my own and usually kill on it! I have gotten to level 11 a couple times so you have to have the bank to support it but it seems to win out! Did you retry it yet??
at level10 with no wins you are down $550, so "win" at level 11 is $330 and bring your $11 back and start over. starting down $220. I tried this on my computer and was up to level 10 a few times with no wins at all even hit level 12 one time. I believe this system is not very good. unless hitting lots of 7's, 11's along the way to a 30-1 payout.
Sounds like a keen strategy, Crappy. To play this at Level 6, you'd only need a bankroll of $210 ((1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6) * 10 hop bets). And since doubles come up an average of 1 out of 6 times, Level 6 seems reasonable. Looks like another winner, Crappy!
What happens if you place the 5 and 9 for $10.?
I wondered about that also ... they may get hit in the early rounds but I was thinking about starting the Hop 7s at 2 rather than 1 to cover them. I'll have to code up a WinCraps script and play with some options on this ... could be promising.
The casino near me increased all center action to a minimum of $5 regardless of whether the table min is 10, 15, or 25
That sucks but I get why. Played it for another hour after the video up 640
@@crappythecrapsman1107 Biloxi has absolutely killed their craps scene. went from 5 to 10 min. there is no one playing ....which i like ,but and if they are playing they have like 50 bucks and gone quick.
Ya, they did that here too (Ameristar-Omaha). They do have Bubble Crap machines but I swear those things are NOT true random rolls - I've seen things happen on those machines repeatedly that I've never seen happen on a true felt table while playing over the last 30 years. I may give this one a try just to see. Need something to play while waiting for an open slot at the felt.
I was just thinking of this strategy after being on a table that seemed to be horn or 7 I ended up going 7s and playing horn I hopped for 5 dollars on 7s and 1 dollar on each horn and hard way box numbers turned losing session into 700 profit
I'm pretty sure that if I tried this I would roll nothing but 5s and 9s all day long.
Try this system out. Place $30 on the pass line and $10 on the Don't pass line. When the point is made put $60 odds behind the $10 that you placed on the Don't pass line. If a 7 or 11 rolls you loose $10 but make $30 on the Pass Line. If a 2 or 3 rolls you loose $30 on the Pass Line and make $10 on the Don't Pass line. Once the shooter rolls a 6 or 8 for a point and then seven's out you make $60 and loose $30 on the Don't pass line. If the shooter rolls a 5 or 9 and then seven's out you loose $30 on the Pass Line and make $50 on the Don't pass line. If the shooter rolls a 4 or 10 and then sevens out you make $40 on the Don't pass line and loose $30 on the Pass Line.
The hole i see, and its a big one, is the 7's and 11's. If you ladder up and only hit 7's and 11's lets say after your on the 5th (5 dollars) try you are losing profits as it only pays 15 to 1 and by that time you are at a 100 dollar loss . Any other hit pays 30 to 1 to which would recover your losses.
At level 5, a 7 or 11 hit results in a net for that play of $30. ($75-45), so that reduces the cumulative loss by this $30. A good run of 7/11 can really help recover some losses as you wait for a hard way.
I like it
I went on cruise $5 table. Bought in $150 using ATM and cashed out $380 one night. Played it the last night. Broke even
nice job sir
I have the strategy that always wins no matter what the shooters do. Wins every time. Looking for player partners.
my suggestion is just bet all the way and progressive bet one unit
Word!
My boy Giga has this all excel spreadsheet out already. It works he has proven it.
How can I get the spreadsheet?
@@djbthunder I have a spread sheet of increasing bets, the only difference mine has is that I don't play the yo(11). I play all the hard ways and hop sevens. One thing to note, if you don't hit the sevens within 2 rolls you start losing money. You need to hit within the first 5 rolls on the hard bets to be able to recover all losses and restart back at one unit each.
Thank you
So did some bs spreadsheet math on my phone quick, I'm no spreadsheet guy BTW, but unless I'm wrong you make money on every win, hardways or 7/11 up to a bet cover of 14 per bet, after that 7/11 stop paying and are a soft security where you don't loose as much. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong here
I've got a strategy I'd like for you to try.
Crappythecrapsman@gmail
On your first roll out when you threw a "7" you said they will pay you $15. That's actually not true. They will pay you $13 because they will leave the other $2 up on your 7's. Just a little fyi..
What are you doing on the 7s? There are 6 ways to make a 7, not 3. Therefore to get a $30 payoff on 7, you would have to have 6 times as many chips on the 7, not 3 as you did.
15 to 1 $15 to every $1 and keep the bet On the one that wins I can se where you would get confused.
Let me play that at the casinos, I’ll make sure it loses. I wanna watch an update
1st
Lol
Crappy...Are you playing 15 TO 1 or FOR 1? I ask because I'm 8 minutes into the video and your 1st roll was 7 and you paid $15 but replaced $10 (for) for the bets instead of keeping the $1 and replacing $9 (TO). You even said that you keep the $1 but replaced it.
15 to 1 yes and keep the bet most places I play
I noticed that too. You were counting the winning bet in when you would rebuy. So if you have $1 on each and a 7 rolls, you only have to rebuy for $9 because you won on a Seven.
Yes 15 to 1 you keep the bet if you win
@@crappythecrapsman1107 what’s your email address?
Where's your table minimum bet?
He's not playing as the shooter, only with another shooter
Don't go to the casino, you don't know your payoffs.
I hit 4 7s in a row with 5 dollar hop on first 3 and 10 on the last one paid 375 total
I've seen it go over 40 rolls without a hard way
You paid yourself on an easy ten then on a hard ten. So we’re you hopping both easy and hard? If you were, then you weren’t paying it out correctly.
Nice to se you got something out of it
Bubble craps
When you hop the seven's you only win on one seven combination and loose the other two seven hop bets.
You have to put out too much money for little wins.
You probably will be rated 0 for this.
it's not "$10 pressure" it " $10 press".
To much commentary about the cruise
Too slow, too much talking.. sorry.. 😊
All strategies have an house edge. Minimum house edge strategy. Play the don't pass line and lay the max odds. There, that was simple. The math has already been done.
Ok. 25 pass line 125 odds pays What. $175 on 8 or 6
Take the same $150 place 8 or 6 pays $175.
Come out advantage on the $25 8 ways to win 4 ways to lose Only advantage in this bet
This would work magic on bubble craps. Tried it on crapsee with 500 buy in and went to 1000 in about an hour play.
spoke too soon. Tried it again with crapsee with a 500 bank roll. After 7 shooters im down to 50 bucks. Highest level I reached was level 10. It hits but you dont get the whole loss. After 2 stints of level 10 and level 9 it was too deep to get out of.
Same for me, three 500 sessions on Crapsee, all losses. I was up to about 950 on one session, so that was just being greedy. Lots of trips to level 9, 10, and 11. Not sustainable
Crappy is back! Missed your videos bro! Thanks for the update on the cruise 🛳 u was wondering how you did. I like this strategy too I'll have to try it sometime