It’s so cool to see Yamaha still caring about there audio equipment and HIFI! Many other big companies especially ones that dabble in so many things loose focus on what counts. Thanks New Record Day and thanks Yamaha!
@@JR-ho5qm Agreed, Yamamaha is one name you can trust for consistent quality at a very fair price. I own many of their products, but not their stock 😊.
"Sound Shed" looking great, Ron... You must be so proud - or , you most definitely should be.... So much hard work has definitely paid off.... The 'Shed' sounds amazing thru' IEMS... Love your Channel - Objective, informative, great technical info & a really cool, friendly presentation-style. *Go, Ron, GO*!! All the very best from Japan, (ex-Scotland) (60+ yrs. young retired Mech. Eng.)...
The more I listen to reviewers the more I realized that as objective as they want to be they have they own preferences about construction and sound to mention a few. And audio clips are worthless I dont waste my time with them. Im the ultimate judge of sound because nobody has my ears and brain. The cosmetics of it all plays a role on how much I enjoy music. Reviewers are mostly quite entertaining in a good way. Its like a open window into somebody's psychology. Thank you. And with that I keep coming back.
You are correct. Few reviewers I trust to give me a solid evaluation of gear. My preferences may not be theirs but they can describe the sound to let me know if it may be my jam or not. And like you said it’s up to my ears to make that choice. And my room plays a big part in that as well. So sound clips are basically entertainment not a way to t gear.
Hi, Yes Ron's sound clips are good enough to get a first impression. If you want to make purchases, you should really listen in the store where you would purchase them. Preferably take your own amplifier with you. Grtz Phil
Yes. Use reviewers as 1 of multiple sources of information and insights. Also why when people ask me I split between what I look for, what I like, and how it differs from what most people seem to look for, etc, and always ask them to try themselves.
I like to hear how they feel the speakers compare to other popular speakers on the market. You can say they sound really good, but unless you say "they are $2k better than the R3 Meta, it doesn't really help much.
I thought that the leading edge transients were muted compared to the reference track despite your announcement of a 15k peak. I hear them as just a bit dull overall. I didn't hear "more life" in the speakers. I heard more life in the reference tracks.
Agree upper mids are softer than source. Also bass was less extended. But good sound overall. Yamaha has exceptional music equipment and digital keyboards (which I own and use). But I am not impressed with their speakers so far. Not with Andrew Jones speaker designs in the ring, at lower prices no less... Thanks for another great review 😊.
Ron! Great review and sound clip, as usual. I have severe tinnitus but can still hear the variations in the sound and after your explanation. Great way to check my hearing. All above 11k is muted for me. Please Ron. When doing the sound test. Showed them also into a corner a play the same tracks. This is how many customers use them. Interesting to hear the difference compared to your LOTS.
I'm sure the speakers are good. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who won't bawk at the price. But two "master crafted" wooden boxes with 4 moving parts between them costing as much as one of their upright acoustic pianos or one of their motorcycles.
To my ears Ron, the speakers seems to round off, maybe it is soften most of the music. It actually sounds "dull" to me. Not what I'm used too (Arendal 1723 Monitirs). Just my take.
you can Review the most recent release of the Quad Revela 1 and compare it against the above pair of Yamaha which is a little too expensive. Good review BTW but some parts the comments are over the top.
These are stupendously expensive in Australia and there are plenty of worthy competitors at that price point. Its really hard to understand if Yamaha actually intend to sell them or are just making them to demonstrate capability. I like Yamaha btw, I have a pair of Piano Craft speakers attached to a Yamaha system, but I would find it difficult to part with the money asked for the NS-800A.
At the price of these Yamahas in Australia, you can buy Australian made Osborn Titan stand-mount speakers which will eat these little Yamahas for breakfast! No comparison whatsoever!
$5k !! Thats a crate engine 383 stroker money !! But i cant say anything to i hear them love to see the spectral decay !! Wont tell me how the speakers sound but will tell me how acurate speaker sounds ! I do love yamaha they are a powerhouse i just raced a lexus isf and the lexus/toyota v8 was built by Yamaha !! But old kentucky muscle 6.2 still cam threw hit n a lick !! 3rd gear i was gone home !
Hi Ron, what is the equipment used for the sound clips, amp source. is very close to the reference track, you hear that space (which is really great) contributes to this. But I think because of the little coloring it can become a bit boring over time. Grtz Phil
More (but still not enough) manufacturers are realizing that brass is for convenience and are poor conductors (for example 60% compared to copper) for sound reproduction and the microthin coating of gold is still not going to change that very much. I hope one day anything brass will be out of my signal chain.
I want Alnico magnet$ with that Spruce, and Xylon! for 5Grand. Manufacturers are bloviating way too hard in marketing, and not demonstrating real-world peak transient composure they claim all these so-called new materials allegedly provide!
And especially at those darn trade expos, they look at me like I’m crazy for suggesting they bring electronic crossovers, and wall-off those amps to 70Hz, so we the public can view real world 85 watt peak transient performance worthy of $12k ! Much less $5k!
Understandably less deep bass than the reference. Your waterfall plot is positively biased by the unnatural 15KHz peak & not truly representative of the design. Other than that these speakers sound great, as they should at the asking price!
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Or the Troels Gravesen kit (similar) no idea which would be better,except I have built 3 of his speaker kits, which would sway me. My ns1000m are on RUclips.
Yamaha’s are getting overpriced. Something is off. Their CD-S303 innards with its switch mode power supply and some ALI type chip does not justify the exhorbitant retail price.
Some people are embarrassed by male pattern baldness for some reason. But a lot of people grow up wearing hats for different purposes and you start to feel naked if it's missing.
I will never understand the purpose of audio clips delivered on RUclips. What percentage of us watching this have ability to transform that sound into something realistic in a room nonetheless, I’m sure some people like the clips.
Ron’s sound clip reveal the true sound of the speaker. With this information you know that it’s a great sounding speaker. The basic is ok. Now it’s up to you to treat your room or place them correctly. And there is where the big work starts. Having a wife and that love interior design, the speakers usually end up in the corners. Not the best sound now but you know they sound good from the start.
I can clearly hear the difference from the source clips in my room, no headphones, just using two Elac Reference speakers. Paid $600 a pair new. Amp is class D with tube preamp. These days you can get very accurate, pleasant sound for not a lot of money. Under $900 for amp and speakers. 30 to 35,000 htz. No subwoofer. Must have good speaker placement...
It’s so cool to see Yamaha still caring about there audio equipment and HIFI! Many other big companies especially ones that dabble in so many things loose focus on what counts. Thanks New Record Day and thanks Yamaha!
@@JR-ho5qm Agreed, Yamamaha is one name you can trust for consistent quality at a very fair price. I own many of their products, but not their stock 😊.
I'd love to see you review the Yamaha NS-5000.
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"Sound Shed" looking great, Ron... You must be so proud - or , you most definitely should be.... So much hard work has definitely paid off.... The 'Shed' sounds amazing thru' IEMS...
Love your Channel - Objective, informative, great technical info & a really cool, friendly presentation-style. *Go, Ron, GO*!! All the very best from Japan, (ex-Scotland) (60+ yrs. young retired Mech. Eng.)...
The more I listen to reviewers the more I realized that as objective as they want to be they have they own preferences about construction and sound to mention a few. And audio clips are worthless I dont waste my time with them.
Im the ultimate judge of sound because nobody has my ears and brain. The cosmetics of it all plays a role on how much I enjoy music.
Reviewers are mostly quite entertaining in a good way.
Its like a open window into somebody's psychology.
Thank you. And with that I keep coming back.
You are correct. Few reviewers I trust to give me a solid evaluation of gear. My preferences may not be theirs but they can describe the sound to let me know if it may be my jam or not.
And like you said it’s up to my ears to make that choice. And my room plays a big part in that as well. So sound clips are basically entertainment not a way to t gear.
Hi,
Yes Ron's sound clips are good enough to get a first impression.
If you want to make purchases, you should really listen in the store where you would purchase them.
Preferably take your own amplifier with you.
Grtz Phil
Yes. Use reviewers as 1 of multiple sources of information and insights.
Also why when people ask me I split between what I look for, what I like, and how it differs from what most people seem to look for, etc, and always ask them to try themselves.
@@a9fc what do you look for in sound?
I like to hear how they feel the speakers compare to other popular speakers on the market. You can say they sound really good, but unless you say "they are $2k better than the R3 Meta, it doesn't really help much.
Hey Ron, it would be really cool if you could plan reviewing NS-3000 and especially NS-5000 in the future. What do you think about it?
Another great review Ron. Showing other reviewers how its done.
I thought that the leading edge transients were muted compared to the reference track despite your announcement of a 15k peak.
I hear them as just a bit dull overall. I didn't hear "more life" in the speakers. I heard more life in the reference tracks.
Agreed. The treble sounds recessed, particularly on the orchestral track
Yes. The female vocal sounded veiled to the reference which emphasized the mic distance in the recording from the sound of her breath.
Great one. Need more reviews from you, the best in the business ✌🏼
Agree upper mids are softer than source. Also bass was less extended. But good sound overall. Yamaha has exceptional music equipment and digital keyboards (which I own and use). But I am not impressed with their speakers so far. Not with Andrew Jones speaker designs in the ring, at lower prices no less... Thanks for another great review 😊.
Yeah, for $200 more I'd consider Mofi Sourcepoint 888's.
@@countdebleauchamp Hell, no consideration.... I would JUMP on those 888's!!!! That's my kind of speaker😉
Ron! Great review and sound clip, as usual. I have severe tinnitus but can still hear the variations in the sound and after your explanation. Great way to check my hearing. All above 11k is muted for me. Please Ron. When doing the sound test. Showed them also into a corner a play the same tracks. This is how many customers use them. Interesting to hear the difference compared to your LOTS.
I'm sure the speakers are good. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who won't bawk at the price. But two "master crafted" wooden boxes with 4 moving parts between them costing as much as one of their upright acoustic pianos or one of their motorcycles.
Thank for sharing Ron
Thanks for sharing. Great review.
Totem Bison and take the spare change for a hell of a phono cartridge. Thinking Ortofon black LVB.
To my ears Ron, the speakers seems to round off, maybe it is soften most of the music. It actually sounds "dull" to me. Not what I'm used too (Arendal 1723 Monitirs). Just my take.
Better than the Ryan R610 for half the $? I'm skeptical...
The 610 would probably run circles around that 800A. It would make for an entertaining showdown though🌹
Did you have Danny check out these speakers for possible crossover upgrades?
No. I don’t take any reviewed speakers to Danny.
you can Review the most recent release of the Quad Revela 1 and compare it against the above pair of Yamaha which is a little too expensive. Good review BTW but some parts the comments are over the top.
Thanks Ron
These are stupendously expensive in Australia and there are plenty of worthy competitors at that price point. Its really hard to understand if Yamaha actually intend to sell them or are just making them to demonstrate capability. I like Yamaha btw, I have a pair of Piano Craft speakers attached to a Yamaha system, but I would find it difficult to part with the money asked for the NS-800A.
They're none too inexpensive in the US as well, particularly for stand mounts.
At the price of these Yamahas in Australia, you can buy Australian made Osborn Titan stand-mount speakers which will eat these little Yamahas for breakfast! No comparison whatsoever!
Smooth pitch Ron
🧐 Huh - save a few $$ and go with the Buchardt A10s. Granted, they are powered bookshelf speakers - but they run circles around these NS-2000s.
$5k !! Thats a crate engine 383 stroker money !! But i cant say anything to i hear them love to see the spectral decay !! Wont tell me how the speakers sound but will tell me how acurate speaker sounds ! I do love yamaha they are a powerhouse i just raced a lexus isf and the lexus/toyota v8 was built by Yamaha !!
But old kentucky muscle 6.2 still cam threw hit n a lick !! 3rd gear i was gone home !
Yamaha sells a few motorcycles for that price with a lot more moving parts than two tweeters and two woofers.
do they sound better than the XLS encore ?
Hi Ron,
what is the equipment used for the sound clips, amp source.
is very close to the reference track, you hear that space
(which is really great) contributes to this.
But I think because of the little coloring it can become a bit boring over time.
Grtz Phil
pretty speakers, although piano wood Piano black does not do me enough justice (on video)
Well at $2600 you would be amazed at the sound of the Tannoy Revolution XT8F.
Every time i see your face on my feed, i think of Kraglin from Guardians of the Galaxy and i smile
Nice 😊
Isn't gold heavier than sand? Why not fill the stands with small gold nuggets?
I thought it was 480 bucks. I was excited…
More (but still not enough) manufacturers are realizing that brass is for convenience and are poor conductors (for example 60% compared to copper) for sound reproduction and the microthin coating of gold is still not going to change that very much. I hope one day anything brass will be out of my signal chain.
Kitty litter ?? You mean buckshot 😊jk thanks buddy always a pleasure
Inflated Pricing, no need to pay that much for a box with to units, and some cheap components, its mostly smoke and mirrors.
What cheap components was that ?
Definitely a major dip in the midrange.
I need a laser vibrometer
Great video but you lost me at $4800 smackeroo's...
I want Alnico magnet$ with that Spruce, and Xylon! for 5Grand. Manufacturers are bloviating way too hard in marketing, and not demonstrating real-world peak transient composure they claim all these so-called new materials allegedly provide!
And especially at those darn trade expos, they look at me like I’m crazy for suggesting they bring electronic crossovers, and wall-off those amps to 70Hz, so we the public can view real world 85 watt peak transient performance worthy of $12k ! Much less $5k!
"Audiophile" means show me the money!
Did you miss how the treble hit the ceiling at 16000 hz and up, Ron did anyway! he had no problem with a treble hitting the ceiling?
Understandably less deep bass than the reference. Your waterfall plot is positively biased by the unnatural 15KHz peak & not truly representative of the design. Other than that these speakers sound great, as they should at the asking price!
A 5k dip …tuning my AUDEZE 😆
These or Triangle Comete?
That's just what l was thinking
$4700?!?!
😂😂😂😂
way over-priced
2200 a piece Yamaha can suck my ***. A pair of these costing as much as one of their entry level motorcycles.
I choked when Ron mentioned the price...a great big NOPE for me.
@@hondaphan4172 love how my comment was removed. I even censored it.
Overpriced. Better off buying 2nd hand ns 1000m
Yep ns1000m restored and upgrade the crossover, hard to beat, round figures $2,000 us.
With Danny's kit yeah those 1000m would be hot roded !! Race fuel ⛽️ GR xover
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Or the Troels Gravesen kit (similar) no idea which would be better,except I have built 3 of his speaker kits, which would sway me. My ns1000m are on RUclips.
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 nothing is too good to not be taken apart by him and ready for his amazing kit
$4800 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
All what you discover Ron, lead me to the conclusion, that Danny will soon have them on bench to fix 😂
Doubt that considering they measure well and have high grade crossover parts.
First! (yes, being first is still a thing!)
congrats and next time say, "the video was great" because it looks as if you didn't watch the video and came here just to be first
@@prinzexisalowqualityytber So much jealousy! Don't worry, one day you'll be first too.
@@cremersalex im just saying its slitghtly rude, let the creator know you watched the video
"Yeahmaha". Don't know why but hearing that bothers me.
I stopped watching when I heard the price.
Yamaha’s are getting overpriced. Something is off. Their CD-S303 innards with its switch mode power supply and some ALI type chip does not justify the exhorbitant retail price.
Whats up with you americans and wearing hats inside? we in europe dont undestand. GR mistery speaker?
Some people are embarrassed by male pattern baldness for some reason. But a lot of people grow up wearing hats for different purposes and you start to feel naked if it's missing.
I wear a Philadelphia Eagles or Phillies cap/hat almost every single day. When I'm not at my job it's not often that you'll see my see me hat-less :)
I have lived in LA or San Diego my whole life. I don’t understand wearing a hat inside a home or office. But I am certain that I couldn’t care less.
Nope......
No way. One must put things in perspective. I guess that's why the "cheapaudioman" is so popular.
No thank you
Toooooo expensive, not enough accuracy, I'll pass on it..
I will never understand the purpose of audio clips delivered on RUclips. What percentage of us watching this have ability to transform that sound into something realistic in a room nonetheless, I’m sure some people like the clips.
It's best for music discovery lol
Ron’s sound clip reveal the true sound of the speaker. With this information you know that it’s a great sounding speaker. The basic is ok. Now it’s up to you to treat your room or place them correctly. And there is where the big work starts. Having a wife and that love interior design, the speakers usually end up in the corners. Not the best sound now but you know they sound good from the start.
I can clearly hear the difference from the source clips in my room, no headphones, just using two Elac Reference speakers. Paid $600 a pair new. Amp is class D with tube preamp. These days you can get very accurate, pleasant sound for not a lot of money. Under $900 for amp and speakers. 30 to 35,000 htz. No subwoofer. Must have good speaker placement...
@@peterbaugh51 I don’t doubt that, but that’s not my point.
@@CashGravel Please explain, as we Scientists say, "What's yer point?". I am genuinely curious.