Why are new EVs designed to be so ugly? GMYT EP 95
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
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There are no new cars I would want unless I'm buying a sports car or hypercar. Suvs are not cars. They're glorified minivans.. I wonder how many true car guys get pissed when they call a SUV a car... Please.. Stop It
Your ex wife is ugly. I like your new one
The majority of us live in the world where $100+k for a car is ridiculous. Most of us think $50+k is ridiculous. The fact that EVs are appliances and nothing more makes the prices even worse.
Then don't buy them 🙄
Ok rolling back all regulations now. Preventing future legislation outlawing ice engines. Ok, now I just won't buy it...dumbass
@@newguy954but the politicians are kind of forcing us to buy them, and saying it’s the future🤷♂️
@@newguy954when they are shoving these ugly boxes on top of us, EVs are stupid expensive for ZERO reason
I've owned like 5 cars and never paid more than $10,0000 for one.
Those days are over sadly.
That skateboard frame design actually scares me. They want the only difference between cars to be voltage and the body. Everything would drive the same apart from minor software changes
By far, the ugliest vehicle ever designed is the Tesla Cybertruck.
Well, when your company owner sees the first rendering and immediately draws wings and machine guns on it….what did you expect.
It's up there, that's for sure. I love how Tyler keeps insisting it's cool though - it's like he lives in opposite world.
Taste is subjective. - some look coolest or ugliest thing on earth. Later we wonder what was so cool or ugly looking then?
Everyone hates it but it’s better than just a generic SUV. A car company finally stops making a economy box for the masses and does something cool and unique and the EV haters still can’t handle it.
The VW "Thing" is relieved.
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You’re da man
1:23 she's adopted the Kansas accent! "Ruff" lol
12:25 she did it again!
Two problems with designs in 2024 now. First, since we have learned the "teardrop" is the perfect aerodynamic shape, all car designs now try to deviate as little as possible from this. Every odd angle reduces efficiency, whether gas or electric. Second, we live in a society that is now all about SHOW and not GO. They want "the look" and most don't even know what propels it.
The Cybertruck: exists
The teardrop shape has been known to be the most aerodynamic efficient for over 100 years now. It's emission standards (for petrol/diesel cars) and range requirements (for electric) that demand these shapes nowadays.
April and Hoovie, thanks for your news. I'm an Australian dad of a young daughter, you have been our nightly news this past week over the dinner table after Bondi. That and Jay Leno for desert.
Appreciated . Nick.
From memory, I read somewhere that the Canoo CEO spent more on private plane flights than the number of Canoo vehicles sold
I drive an Rivian R1S. I get compliments on it all the time from people in real life. Most want to know who makes it and where do they make it. When they hear it is American and made in Illinois they are surprised.
Nice! You can read the messages here and see everyone just spouts the media talking points.
Rivian has avoided many of the mentioned "traps" by making a vehicle that is futuristic and not at all ugly. Whether they will be around in 10 years is a bigger question.
Call me crazy, but I think the Canoo Vans would make great mail and package delivery vehicles. They're cool looking, especially with graphics.
I think they look pretty cool. Their pickups even more. Certainly beats the CyberDoorstop in the looks department.
You're not crazy as long as you like store bought pesto.
@@andreasbenning I don't understand, but thanks for commenting
I would love to see one of the mini pickup trucks to make it to production
I can see them also being attractive to the campy outdoor people... I see van lifers loving it
9:40 Lamborghini Espada the one The Stradman and Harry's Garage have.
Ford had an easy win by designing the Mustang Ev like a regular Mustang instead of a suv, but maybe they were scared it would eat into regular Mustang sales?
That thing is not a Mustang and was never designed to be one.
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The fundamental problem is that most of these new EV designs are "different for the sake of different" and since EVs have different design constraints from ICE cars, I think they're trying to embrace the differences. Also they think the designs need to be a departure from ICEs so that you can tell from a distance that its an EV (or at least this is what the marketing departments at these companies seem to think).
This, and mostly the rule of thumb of "just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you HAVE to do it." The "one huge display to control everything" concept Tesla introduced is a prime example of that as far as I'm concerned. Car manufacturers who want to present their "car of the future" all seem to fall into that same trap of "changing things for the sake of changing things" and more and more people hate it.
@@tjroelsma So then Volkswagen brings back the Microbus retro as a followup to the "New Beetle" but electric. The more things change, the more they remain the same!
@@midnight4109 Volkswagen seems to have realised that you don't have to change things that have proven themselves over and over again just for the sake of changing things. A retro Microbus EV therefore makes far more sense for Volkswagen than going the same way as Tesla.
@@tjroelsma Thank you for the explanation. I have never been a fan of VW and don't understand their approach. Their retro cars share nothing with the original except for a resemblance. The Beetles have all faded in popularity to the point of being discontinued along with everyone's sedans. The Jetta, once their best seller is a sedan. The new e Microbus is an innovative approach in a market with many vans. How long that will last is anyone's guess. At least they recognize the need to go electric in spite of the terrible launch of the ID4.
@@midnight4109 I don't think their style division really understood what retro is. The New Beetle failed because it only vaguely looked like it's ancestor but had nothing in common. The iconic boxer-behind-the-wheels configuration was replaced by an inline-4 front wheel drive configuration.
The Jetta went from being a Golf with a boot to a rebadged Audi sedan and it doesn't make any sense anymore.
The new Microbus at least has a lot of style elements that trace back to the original VW Microbus, whereas the later VW Microbus only had the name in common.
Besides that: VW desperate needs some wins, so the logical thing to do is to look back at what worked for them in the past and revisit those designs.
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Hilarious! I just bought a 2014 ELR for 13 grand. Great value for the money now that they are severely depreciated, obviously not when they were new for sure. Typical GM to screw that up with the crazy MSRP. They don't last long around where I live if they are priced right. Yes, it is a fancy Volt . . but it's a great commuter car and at least it still looks better than the newest Cadillac EV. Yes, I used Autotempest to find mine and I bought it the same day it was listed. :)
Nice find.
It's a beautiful car.
Pricing is ridiculous for the average person
I'm with you Tyler, those Canoo vehicles look hideous. They're an overgrown computer mouse with wheels.
That Lexus IS beautiful, had not seen any pics of it before. Almost as good looking as April!!
Well almost, maybe...
Tyler needs a shirt that says 'Bring back the woody'
just bring back cars that are styled and not rolling computers
Cyber truck looks like a door stop
The banter between the two of you is so entertaining keep it up!
The canopy looks like a toaster. Someone should dress one up to look like one.
Take a look at what Volvo has done with EV design and what they’ve done with Polestar as well. Not sure why people sleep on Volvo styling and pedigree.
🐈Where's Nelix?🙀
He turned into felix
He left. April will be next.
Check out this new tech, we call it 'body on frame'
I have really come to enjoy this show :) great job!
Yanno that Ronin doesn't look all that bad. I'd be interested if they took the Prius Prime drivetrain and put it in that body and were able to price it in the 30s. It doesn't really need to be that fast.
Just saw the interior - scratch that. It needs a complete redesign.
The Cadillac one lost it on the rear end, hatch thing. If they did something else with the back end it wouldn't be horrible. But that back hatch thing is hideous.
Crushing the autotempest inserts! Getting very good on those!
Something about LSD and classic car designs we will never replicate. Now it seems like sober nerds are designing cars.
Personally, my favorite EV on the market right now is the Hyundai Ioniq 5. I love the retro-modern aesthetic it has going on with the pixel lighting, sawblade wheels (at least on the top tier Limited), the swoopy and futuristic interior, and the overall wedge shape. It's so distinctive without coming off as too risky or polarizing. Sure, it's not for everyone but if I was ever in the market for an EV, this would be my first choice. Its platform trim, the Kia EV6, is also very nice but I'm not too crazy on the rear styling. That's a little much.
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Cyber truck is the most hideous! Looks like a public urinal on wheels 😮
thats being generous
17:44 Lexus stole that front from the back of a Chiron?
Tyler’s not feeling it today.
Yes, it's bad today, he looks very tired.
The CyberTruck is hideous!
1:39 That view reminds me of the last gen Jaguar XJ sedan.
I partially agree. Not sure about many EV offerings in terms of being ugly and understand your feelings. GM has done a better job on styling and when the Buick models finally arrive, they are promising cars which will be anything but ugly. The Bolt and EUV prove that even economy models aren't necessarily ugly.
The best looking EV in my opinion is the Rivian because they look so normal!
Today, in Warsaw, Poland, Lucid Air hit a post and burst into flames. Gone is 1M PLN (250k$) EV. No thank you 😂
That Cadillac reminds me of the 6000 SUX from the original Robocop
Yeah, especially funny since Cadillac has kept a somewhat traditional ICE look while at the same time being a bit futuristic. The Celestiq breaks from their current lineup, and how many will pay $300k+ for a Cadillac. They need to keep their pricing below 100k or so at least.
That Canoo van reminded me of the Tartan Prancer from Family Vacation
I agree with April on all!!
Gotta say after seeing some cybertucks in person, I wasn't that wildly impressed. I had the edition one hummer ev (bought it to sell) and I loved how it wasnt a blob and had such a distinct profile, I am a total hypocrite though because now I have a model x with ludicrus plus from 2019 and I love it😅. Also I had a preorder for the celestiq and the price was the killer for me. The outside looks are okay but I definitely love the interior.
18:43 agreed they’ve blue balled us for TOO long honestly
The Alaska and the Wagoneer actually look good.
Cadillac ELR: were the jabronis at Cadillac really surprised that people didn't want to pay over $75K (in 2014 money!) for a front-wheel-drive four cylinder car based on a Chevy Volt?
All the manufacturers making inferior products with obvious drawbacks, putting lipstick on the pigs to make them look "futuristic", then trying to sell them at supercar prices. Shock: sales numbers are poor, unless you generate interest based on something else (eg: cult of personality, empty promises of self-driving robo-taxi usage, gimmicky straight-line acceleration, etc.).
When EV versions are sold at a discount to ICE/hybrid versions of the same vehicles (as they should be, given utility compromises), and manufacturers eventually lose enough money to abandon the "screens for everything" trend, then we might see volume sales. Until then, hopefully the market continues to crush these half-assed attempts to sell crappy products for big bucks.
I normally agree with your choices on most of these lists. But the cars you picked as ugly? You gotta be kidding! They were all awesome.
That Bimmer looks good, it has Chevy Volt Gen 1 inspired windows. Simple good looks.
Canoo supposedly has an order from USPS for mail delivery vehicles. That is a pretty good use case. Since their factory is in OKC, the state of OK bought a few of them. However, they are also on life support financially. Even with the rumored large orders it is unclear if they will survive until the end of the year.
the BMW 3 series looks like a 70s concept car that came to life
A rare disagreement with Hoovie.
- the cybertruck is stupid and idiotic
- the Alaska looks cool and helps establish brand presence
- the Lamborghini actually has great legacy design language and I dig it.
This is how I felt when the Hybrids first came out
"Came out" is the right wording.
I like the term Auto-Thomas too. Thomas will now be the new word for chauffeur that nobody can spell. Maybe Tomass or Tomaso .
the Lexus LFA was a failure??? pretty sure most automotive journalists would say you're mistaken
The Canoo is like a One Wheel by a quick look. Which way will it go? LOL
Ford rose from the grave to say he wants his Model T design back.
Can you guys release these videos live so we can have a corresponding chat. It'd be interesting to see the immediate responses to what you're covering. I'll happily wake up at 8 or 9 every day to take part
I think they record a whole week on the same day so they can get on to other videos.
@@aussie2uGAI guess they technically can do it with RUclips Premieres for one of the videos per week. Chat can be live, but I can't for the life of me remember if chat replay is available on VOD. Uncle Rich/Rich Rebuilds does it all the time.
Autumn Thomas will be driving us all.
Dude, that green BMW looks like the old 4 door Cirrus. But its still not as ugly as the Tesla truck!
Disagree on the first Caddillac and the LFA replacement. Agreed on the rest. We need moar Neelix!
I could “almost” get on board with the BMW if they reworked the front end to better call back such historically important models like the 2002 and early 5-series. I do like the open glasshouse…
4:07 slap a VW logo on the front and the new bus is here.
April, sorry but the ID Buzz is cool! Hoovie is right on this one!
The Fisker convertible has Saturn Sky vibes.
Tyler you need to buy the cheapest ELR in the USA to show the world why it is trash.
Hoovie, please check out the pick up variant of the canopy please!
11:38 The Sony/Honda looks like the Gort of electric cars.
Ha! I’m the opposite Tyler. Escalade’s from 2014 to current and including the IQ work for me. Pre 2014 not so much.
I actually find the Celestiq to be an amazingly good design. It's just that the spec they chose to launch it in is awful. Also, you should show the interiors so April and other people can understand better where the prices come from. The Caddy and FF91 have nothing to envy Rolls Royces or Maybachs on the inside.
I like the smiling Fiskars. The Lexus looks sic , hope I get to drive one. If I had that Escalade, I would get a woodie wrap just for Hoovie
That electric BMW looks like a crappy masserati biturbo.
I love my EV, but the cost of EV tyres are ridiculous! They are 2x the price of normal tyres. 😢
The issue is that Electric cars are being forced by government edict. Most people don't want them, but EV has become a strange cult. So they think that forcing these cars on people will work, but it's not. They only work for some people. Our power grid can't handle it, the batteries are ruining the environment and don't last, and the issues they have you can't fix yourself.
Yes mandates are not the way - let the market decide what to buy. Tesla batteries are not failing though, things like the Nissan Leafs are. It all comes down to R&D, components, and design.
The Lexus looks like the Batmobile!
I mostly hate EVs and their designs. That said, I disagree with Hoovie, I liked all of these cars. Except about 3 of them, the Sony, the crushed down Subaru looking thing for 300k, and the canoe.
The Cadillac Cialis.
If we start having autonomous cars they need their own dedicated blocked off lane just for them so they can talk to each other that way they won't crash
Lexus IS the only one I want. Very cool.
I like the Canoo. Id do a vanlife build in it. It looks way cooler than a cybersex truck.
The Cadillac ELR launch commercial was legendary, but offended a lot of people. GM always tries to make the first model standout in an ugly way, then traditionally, refine the looks on the 2nd Gen.
I never understood why they didn't increase the performance of the ELR over the Volt. Could have been much better.
That BMW looks like a Hot Wheels car.
Cadillac looks like a ‘ 70’s Jensen Interceptor
They could call that Wagoneer the Intrepid after the SS Intrepid.
That Cadillac looks like the Jenson Intercepter .
But with EVs ,will they become future Classics?
Can't see the future Hoovie and April in their Fifties talking about the cool the classic EVs of the 2020s ,can you ?
April being 50 ,that may stir the workings of young and old ,the old Hoovie might be up on the car rack with his collectables,only driven occasionally 😅
The BMW side profile looks exactly like a first gen Volt
Strad has a Lamborghini Espada. It is pink for sure. Lol.
Your segue into Autotempest has gotten seamless. Good job!
Tyler is crazy. The BMW is ugly, the Wagoneer is cool, the Celestique is OK especially in the front...
I think the Escalade IQ and the Celestiq look awesome
The Canoe Lifestyle Vehicle literally looks like that car from the "Vacation Movie" which was literally a previa with a heinous body kit
the new escalade v is growing on me it looks really good in person..you ever saw in person hoovie?
EV’s should look like the cars of the future from the 40’s, & 50’s. The future imagined back then is here.
The Cadillac looks like a Jensen Interceptor or a Porsche 928 in the rear and quarter panel area
I think it’s because the people that buy them are often doing so because they are a bit contrarian. And the styling obviously has to be contrarian as well. Obviously the best looking styles are mainstream so to look different and original it has to look ugly. That’s my theory anyway