I forgot to mention it in the video, but in Season 1. The scrapped model of Thomas can be seen right next to Toby’s shed, which gives us a good idea of the scale of the model, next to a Gauge 1 model. Link to image: ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Toby%27s_Shed_(T%26F)/Gallery?file=TobyandtheStoutGentleman41.png
Man... to think we thought the Down the Mine Pilot is the Holy Grail of earliest-known Thomas "lost media". Along comes this. Granted, the DTM Pilot still pretty much is as we've got a lot surrounding it, but it'd be interesting to see whatever news comes of this O Gauge Pilot.
I knew about the O Gauge test pilot thanks to the Thomas wiki. It could even be possible that we may see the test officially released to the public like the down the mine pilot in a 80th anniversary dvd in 2025.
Possible, although extremely unlikely given that we believe only a few shots were filmed from the O Gauge "test". But it's possible some images may turn up one day.
Wow. The more I watch your videos, the more I learn about obscure facts of the classic series! This was really interesting to see! Love your vids man, don't stop doing them!
Another thing to add, there's a small green and yellow double decker bus, it appears in thimas and the guard I think? This bus was found to be a modified off the shelf toy noticeably smaller than gauge 1. I reckon myself that it was bought for the original pilot
Very interesting. I know of the Down The Mine Pilot, but the fact the rabbit hole goes deeper amazes me. While there’s a half a chance the aforementioned pilot will be revealed in the near future, there’s not enough to suggest we’ll see this emerge any time soon.
Wow, that's interesting. I never knew there's another pilot being made but with using O gauge models. I honestly thought the well known one was the only one produced.
this was a great video, hopefully we will find out more and maybe it will get leaked, there is a rumour about Mattel releasing the gauge 1 pilot at the 80th anniversary
The Original pilot was filmed in O gauge, but only a few shots were filmed since the models were so bad. The second pilot was filmed in Gauge 1, but it’s unlikely that the whole pilot was filmed. The models were better than their O Gauge counterparts, but still very bad. So they were refurbished and given Marklin Chassis’ for the first season in 1984.
@@clayv5422 I believe you're referring to the one from 1976, however that was just a few sketches made for a cartoon. It took a little while to get the show off the ground to say the least.
Well we know that the crew in Season 4 had such a hard time with the narrow Gauge models, (which were O Gauge). That they switched to large scale versions of the narrow Gauge engines for Season 5 onwards, and this was over a full decade after the pilot. So in short, if it was hard to use a small scale such as O Gauge in the 90’s, it was even harder to work with these models in the early 80’s.
They should make a one off special using the original models once again.Because when watching the early model series you can see lots of care and commitment in the production of it
I doubt it, although the footage from the Gauge 1 Pilot exists. I find it unlikely that the few shots that made up the original test “pilot”, still exist. But to answer your question, I don’t think so. There’s a very high chance that they were discarded, although possible that they still have them, it’s unlikely. Or some other individual may have an image or two, but we just don’t know yet.
Shame the models from the Down The Mine pilot episode from the early 1980s were used as set dressing as scrap engines. As the pilot was reshot and redone.
You mentioned the cancelled documentary, I remember seeing how much that was being promoted years ago but I can’t remember who was making it. Does anyone know why it was cancelled?
It was TomsProps who was making it, I think he got burnout or lazy and was low on funds so he cancelled it. So he'd then disappear from Twitter, he's been selling stuff on eBay as of recently. The thing is, all the O gauge narrow gauge engines were being brought to the "Unlikely fandom" event in November, by their respective owners. But since he owns Duncan and Rheneas it's unlikely that'll happen now.
I forgot to mention it in the video, but in Season 1. The scrapped model of Thomas can be seen right next to Toby’s shed, which gives us a good idea of the scale of the model, next to a Gauge 1 model. Link to image: ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Toby%27s_Shed_(T%26F)/Gallery?file=TobyandtheStoutGentleman41.png
I think that’s a different model to the one in Off the Rails though. But it could be an alternate version!
Just pointing it out pilot gordon was retooled into s1 gordon so that can't be a O gauge short
Man... to think we thought the Down the Mine Pilot is the Holy Grail of earliest-known Thomas "lost media". Along comes this.
Granted, the DTM Pilot still pretty much is as we've got a lot surrounding it, but it'd be interesting to see whatever news comes of this O Gauge Pilot.
Yes! The information regarding the original pilot, (if you can call it that). Has only been public knowledge for about 2 weeks now.
I knew about the O Gauge test pilot thanks to the Thomas wiki. It could even be possible that we may see the test officially released to the public like the down the mine pilot in a 80th anniversary dvd in 2025.
Possible, although extremely unlikely given that we believe only a few shots were filmed from the O Gauge "test". But it's possible some images may turn up one day.
Wait a minute... Pilot before Down The Mine Pilot...
EARLY REEL IS REAL!?
And you can tell from Toby’s shed the scrap Thomas is tiny
Yes! I forgot to show it in the video. But that is very true.
Wow. The more I watch your videos, the more I learn about obscure facts of the classic series! This was really interesting to see! Love your vids man, don't stop doing them!
Thank you for the kind words, comments like these give me the motivation to keep creating content and making it better each time I upload.
Another thing to add, there's a small green and yellow double decker bus, it appears in thimas and the guard I think? This bus was found to be a modified off the shelf toy noticeably smaller than gauge 1. I reckon myself that it was bought for the original pilot
Yes! The O Gauge Chance and Hunt Bus. That’s a very good theory.
Very interesting. I know of the Down The Mine Pilot, but the fact the rabbit hole goes deeper amazes me. While there’s a half a chance the aforementioned pilot will be revealed in the near future, there’s not enough to suggest we’ll see this emerge any time soon.
Wow, that's interesting. I never knew there's another pilot being made but with using O gauge models. I honestly thought the well known one was the only one produced.
Hooray! More Thomas Lost Media craziness! I’m glad the fun hasn’t stopped yet!
We’re gonna see this eventually.
this was a great video, hopefully we will find out more and maybe it will get leaked, there is a rumour about Mattel releasing the gauge 1 pilot at the 80th anniversary
0:06 THOMASDOTD FOOTAGE
:( Sad he hasn't posted.
I miss him.
I never heard of a 0 Gauge thomas and Gordon.
Thomas in O gauge
Well I know a little more now I always thought the pilot used gauge 1 , thanks!
The Original pilot was filmed in O gauge, but only a few shots were filmed since the models were so bad. The second pilot was filmed in Gauge 1, but it’s unlikely that the whole pilot was filmed. The models were better than their O Gauge counterparts, but still very bad. So they were refurbished and given Marklin Chassis’ for the first season in 1984.
@@FlyingFishProductions so basically they had 3???? lost pilots the o guage one the gauge 1 and the one in 1973?
@@clayv5422 I believe you're referring to the one from 1976, however that was just a few sketches made for a cartoon. It took a little while to get the show off the ground to say the least.
@@FlyingFishProductions yeah if ya kinda compare them the 73 one to the current all engines go they look strangely similar??
@clayv5422 fun fact there was a lost loose adaption of thomas in 1973 called engines of eight
So, what would be the difference in these gauges? Evidently 0 Gauge is smaller than 1, but by how much?
Well we know that the crew in Season 4 had such a hard time with the narrow Gauge models, (which were O Gauge). That they switched to large scale versions of the narrow Gauge engines for Season 5 onwards, and this was over a full decade after the pilot. So in short, if it was hard to use a small scale such as O Gauge in the 90’s, it was even harder to work with these models in the early 80’s.
They should make a one off special using the original models once again.Because when watching the early model series you can see lots of care and commitment in the production of it
The models are all over the world now
Yes... They should with some of the cgi characters,the good ones
@@Cloned-alone All new models would have to be built. Which would cost more than when the final models were built in 2007-2008.
Is there a chance either companies or whoever owns them now would still have the reference pics?
I doubt it, although the footage from the Gauge 1 Pilot exists. I find it unlikely that the few shots that made up the original test “pilot”, still exist. But to answer your question, I don’t think so. There’s a very high chance that they were discarded, although possible that they still have them, it’s unlikely. Or some other individual may have an image or two, but we just don’t know yet.
@@FlyingFishProductions That's understandable. It was mainly a shot in the dark.
woah this is so cool!! thanks for this, i never would've known about this!!
now 4 Pilot for Thomas and Friends wow thomas has the most Pilots now
This is interesting
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So does thomas early reel exist
Shame the models from the Down The Mine pilot episode from the early 1980s were used as set dressing as scrap engines. As the pilot was reshot and redone.
I need the pilot!
I need it *NOW*
You mentioned the cancelled documentary, I remember seeing how much that was being promoted years ago but I can’t remember who was making it. Does anyone know why it was cancelled?
It was TomsProps who was making it, I think he got burnout or lazy and was low on funds so he cancelled it. So he'd then disappear from Twitter, he's been selling stuff on eBay as of recently. The thing is, all the O gauge narrow gauge engines were being brought to the "Unlikely fandom" event in November, by their respective owners. But since he owns Duncan and Rheneas it's unlikely that'll happen now.
OOOOO sounds intresting this vid
2:55 what was the documentary?
It was a cancelled documentary, here's the link to the trailer: ruclips.net/video/3O14e1qhZ3k/видео.html
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Noice
i never know that
So thomas early reel is not real
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