I always end up just sitting in ME catalyst’s main menu, which puts me in this tranquil state of reflection, just remembering the happiness and greatness I experienced in my childhood of games during my middle and early high school years 2006-2011. ME Catalyst was one of those games that inspired me to pick up the piano alongside mass effect and have had a huge impact on me, including allowing me to finally come to understand how much I love music more than I originally thought.
I feel you. Mirror's Edge and especially Catalyst inspired me as a producer to make ambient stuff. All thanks to Solar Fields for making a killer soundtrack. He's such an amazing composer.
I never understood the criticism of the open world. The story missions take place outside the main map and are linear, so you have linear gameplay. But you also have a massive playground to run around in when you want to do something other than re-play the same linear levels over and over. It's the best of both worlds.
Because if you are going to have an large open world to explore, you need to make sure the game has enough to warrant it. I don't mean having skyrim levels of stuff to do but enough to make it worth exploring every little nook and cranny of the world. If you don't add enough it can feel empty and dull. I honestly found myself liking how Dying Light combined the parkour movement with zombie killing and the like. Story wasn't the best but the world can be fun to explore, especially once you end up upgrading yourself and I am sure people get a kick out of using all your parkour skills to avoid and run from zombies and hunters at night.
The problem with an open world game you have to fill it with interesting stuff for people to do and explore the world. GTA is one of the games that is able to do that. Mirror Edge Catalyst fails because its world is so empty. It was very pretty to look at but there was nothing interesting to do.
@@ApplePotato I'll agree that it doesn't compare to the "things" in GTA V but you can't use GTA V to compare against any game. Nothing compares to GTA V. Not RDR2. Not Cyberpunk 2077. Nothing. I'm also sick and tired of how games have been throwing junk into 1,000 different corners to draw out the game. "I gotta check over here, there might be something I don't need." I'm seriously sick of it. Far Cry with all the gas/metal scraps/etc. lying around everywhere. Assassin's Creed with all the barrels with maybe silver/maybe not/other junk. It's all pure filler to make up for the short games they actually are. It turns a 4 hour game into a 40 hour game. I can't emphasize enough how sick I am of devs pulling this stunt. Let me add that Mirror's Edge Catalyst does have stuff to collect.. but it's 100% irrelevant to completing the story or upgrading anything. It's something you can go back to that will help you explore the map and find new places or are in places that maybe you couldn't get to at first.. but after putting some time in the game, you can now figure out how to do it. The point is, you don't need any of the extra stuff in this game to "upgrade" or "build" or "supply" anything or anyone. It's not there to drag the game out and make you go through it at a snail's pace. It's there to make you feel rewarded for learning skills and becoming more accustomed to the game and to give you a reason to play it after the story. That and the leaderboards.. and the ability to make custom runs and share them with the world/try out other people's custom runs. But, hey, the majority of games were like that back then, anyways. It's just become a seriously terrible trend lately with these zoomer devs that only have this one answer to the question of "how can we lengthen our game?" More missions? More parts to the story? Nah... just throw junk that you have to have everywhere except where you are supposed to go for the story. They don't make games like they used to. I haven't played Dying Light 2 but I bet you it's the same way. Junk everywhere. Junk to the left when you know you're supposed to go right for the story. Junk that helps you upgrade... no, junk that you NEED to use to upgrade. It's only there to drag out games. It's the easy answer to the hard question of "how can we make our game take time to complete?" This poor excuse for lengthening games was first really noticed by me in Metro Exodus. That was fine.. every game wasn't doing that. Now they are. It turned that 5-6 hour game into a 55+ hour game if you want to check out every question mark on the map. It wasn't done badly in Metro Exodus. It's been done badly by every game since.
I just got done playing Catalyst for the first time and came to RUclips to see what people said about the game. I’m also totally baffled people didn’t like it. I do wish there were more missions, but all in all it’s not a bad starting point.
@@itsjusteddie7384 I just started a new game in it 3 or 4 days ago, myself, lol. Kinda got sidetracked after downloading Middle-Earth: Shadow of War but, yeah.. I dunno. It's a great game. All it takes is some "authority", aka a dude at home making YT vids, to say something is bad and bam... people follow. The skill that lets you roll when you land is the FIRST skill you get, but I've seen that used as an example of how the skill tree is bad lol. It's the FIRST SKILL after the tutorial makes you use a skill point on unlocking the map. I dunno.. game is great. People be trippin.
I absolutely adore this series, Catalyst is one of my favourite games. Even moreso than the original! I can definitely imagine a multiplayer mode with racing one day
I actually don't know a single person that disliked Catalyst. But that's because I don't know anyone that even tried the game in the first place. I think the problem of that game was not the quality but the lack of marketing and the fact that it only came out on Origin and not on Steam. I remember watching a gaming podcast in the weeks after it came out and the hosts were like "oh wait, this game already came out?", even though they are all full time variety streamers who usually know about all new releases. I think most people never even tried the game at all because it just flew completely under the radar and many people weren't even aware that it had been released.
I must be in the minority I actually liked Catalyst the original ME will always be the best of course. Both games still feel unique and fresh compared to everything else out there.
Literally the biggest complaint everyone had about Mirror’s Edge 1 was that it wasn’t open-world. Then Catalyst came out and the biggest complaint was that it wasn’t linear… 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
The brightness of mirrors edge 1 made it age so darn well. You mostly notice the low res textures when looking at signs, but outside of that the untrained eye could see it as a game released much later.
Crazy how the atmosphere of this series is so good and unique. The game is pretty much empty, but there's something about it that makes me fascinated. I think its the same thing with The Last of Us 1 or RE4, where the world is there, very empty, but you, somehow, feel it.
I loved the mirror’s edge catalyst open world tho :( it had a super beautiful architecture and world design, with more new mechanics, I think it works so well for an open world, but maybe they could add more fun activities to the open world map
I think it all comes down to preferences. I personally love the cyberpunk genre, and Mirror’s Edge’s striking visuals (both the original and Catalyst) combine with the smooth free-running seems perfect for an open-world parkour game to me. Sometimes I just put on a synthwave playlist and just run. For example, the parkour in Dying Light feels really forced and lackluster to me. ME brings you the sinking feeling when you stand on a building’s edge looking down, makes you feel the weight of each jump, and when you successfully execute a hard sequence of moves you feel gratifying. DL’s parkour is basically run along the street, vault over some cars, jump over a wall, climb a small shed, jump back down to the street and keep running. So in the end, even though DL allegedly “has more stuff to do”, exploring the open-world seems like an absolute chore, whereas just running in ME is much more enjoyable, at least to me.
Many people don't deserve this game..this game world is so beautiful , peace and music tooo it's like dreamy.....so as soon later every gamers will understand this game and I hope they will make mirror edge 3....
Mirrors Edge, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dante's Inferno - I miss the days when EA actually had the ambition to create electronic art. Or at least interesting and new kind of gaming experiences.
I must say, having played videogames virtually my whole life, Mirror's Edge Catalyst is the only game that caused me to experience a strong sense of vertigo. This was the most pronounced during the final mission on the Spire. Just insane.
He didn't even mention the fact that the first game ended on a cliffhanger (and Catalyst is a non-canon prequel) and they replaced Faith's VA with a shittier one. Also, the new Faith doesn't really look like the old one, and I'm not talking about the clothes. All these things serve to sour it for long time fans, making it hard for them to feel invested, and confusing newer ones when they go and try to figure out the canon. This just makes both parties, new and old, say fuck it and go play Battlefront 2.
Im playing catalyst for the first time right now and ive actually been liking the story. Multiple times throughout playing ive just been like “man this should be a movie trilogy, or tv show. It could be so cool”
I mean in that GeForce now leak it did had a RTX remaster mentioned and surprisingly they are reviving dead space and I think this franchise still has a chance and it may not see the light for some time cause dice is doing some stuff currently but maybe some other studio can pick it up and make something out it but yeah we'll see.
Still love these games. Its a shame such a great idea on paper ultimately flopped financially and even critically when thinking about the second one. I will say though, ME is a bit of a pioneer for first person platforming. Not saying it was the first or even one of the first, just that it really moved the mechanic forward.
Just repeating the same old criticisms from years ago.. there's a reason it has a die hard fan base.. and one of those is the fact it's not another dam generic shooter game. There's nothing like it as a "wholistic" gaming experience.. free running, ambience, music score, styling and awesome oob areas u can get to using glitches and play for hrs OUTSIDE of the predefined areas.. one of my favourite games for that alone
I would love for the series to make a comeback. I replay Mirror's Edge every now and again because of how serene and fluid it is. The visuals were unlike any other game at the time. Yes the second was nothing to rave about but that first game stuck with me and still stands the test of time.
eh i had a lot more fun with Catalyst than with the first game, and the combat is much improved there as well. i don't think people give the game a fair shake.
Ppl always sooking about Catslyst, and now the characters too apparently I loved the game and the characters I just wished there was MORE interaction and with NPCs also as well as being able to walk on lower ground. Either way loved it, I wish they'd at least release DLC for it.
There was so many possibilities and opportunities for a better plot driven exciting mirror's edge but unfortunately the series wasn't a priority I remember playing this game year's ago the music aesthetic and atmosphere still holds up today and is beautiful to explore during the puzzles solar fields did a great job on the soundtrack fans are still waiting for Faith's return.
I ❤ the original Mirror's Edge, it's easily part of my Top 10 List of First Person games of all time, especially because of it's original creative & artistic design. I hope the series gets rejuvenated someday since Catalyst had such a different feel & just wasn't that good of a prequel. (imho)
I love mirror edge because the game really focuses on parkour. sure there are other parkour games but Demn mirror edge really is something. This game need to be come back
The fact discussed in the video is just so true. These days studios that can make such great games fear to fail and incur losses just to experiment something new. As a result we gamers are getting same bunch of games with is just fluffed with some boring side quests or open world to fill up the time. The smaller studios free from this try hard to try out new things but for them, budget becomes the problem. I hope something can level this out and we can once again enjoy fresh and new concepts that are nicely implemented. I think this is asking a lot but is it really?
Ask yourself would you gamble to lose your job every year + lose the money you put aside, or would you rather have a save working place without risk that pays well? People complain all the time, nothing is good enough for the hordes of the toxic, entitled gamers today. if you go experimental you get hate, people dont want to preorder either, they dont like DLC and dont want games as a service or ads. There is no way to create experimental, creative games with a AAA budget with the toxic customers mentality, who dont even want to pay.
@@bellonasservant4496 you are probably right bro. Even if someone likes one thing, there will be someone disliking the same. Guess gotta make a list of things we want and then give it to studios to get customised games XD
@@khushjain8679 people arent able to agree on a list either.... wich is actually a good thing. It would be boring if everyone had the same taste. The bad part is the pool of games gets smaller and more low budget the more you stray away from the mainstream. In that case there are "2" main options. Support the small indie, niche games with your money, or develop your own games. Toning down your expectations also helps.
Just letting all know Mirrors Edge is 4k60 on XSX while Catalyst is 900p with autoHDR and 120fps. They both look stunning, but the original really shines in 4K. Edit: Catalyst is also on Gamespass.
dude seeing "financial district 1:58 pm" made me so nostalgic and sad. I miss the atmosphere of this game. It really feels like the atmosphere of real life when I would go downtown into the city as an 8 year old and look up at the big buildings and just have a feeling of peace and calm. I miss that shiit soooo much lol
The original was rather bold for its time... You have to remember that in 2008 the gaming world was FLOODED with the expectation that every first person game HAD to be big burly men in war torn scenes with lots of chest high walls to hide behind, basically Halo and Gears of War. Then comes this bright game with a unique look to this day that swapped muscle man for a thin parkour woman. I gotta be the only person I know that loves Catalyst more than the original. The original WAS good for its time, but it didn't age well and I really feel like the story was made up in the last 3 weeks of development. Catalyst isn't the next great novel or anything, but the story and world held my attention a lot more. I think DICE shouldn't have gone full open world like they did in Catalyst, but they did good. I have the Catalyst collectors edition statue in my room and sometimes I look at it depressed because I know this game is never going to get a third game. It's always awesome to me whenever I meet someone who loved the series like me.
yeah catalyst wasn't a great sequel to the series, but I still play it to this day. It's a very calm and refreshing game. Add in some Mods to bump the graphics and it's beautiful
tbh i like everything about the sequel more then the first game i never found it complicated or clunky i could even turn off runners vision and know where to go and the characters were quite good
Mirrors Edge needs a new game on Next-Gen only consoles. Imagine running through Glass at 60fps in 4K with beautiful graphics while a banger beat plays while you’re running. I wouldn’t even care if the game doesn’t do anything new to the formula. I just want a next-Gen Mirrors Edge
Nonsense, the open world was one of the redeeming features on MEC, which I as a good game, the only problem with the map was the cellular nature of the layout which created bottlenecks, the other key issues that kept it from perfect were that they should've kept the guns as they were in the first game and kept the ledge/small gap sliding, i saw so many places in MEC that og faith would have had no trouble with but because the slipping move was taken out there were these intraversable gaps that even my 210lb frame could've squeezed through, also breaking glass panels is highly missed here, as well as reaction mechanics for civilian npcs, they should've been more interactive. The open world in it's current form is better than the og game where it is the same but less of it, and that wasn't a good thing, and i have gone back and played through the original again after playing through MEC, and as much as i loved the forst game the open world environment is simply better. The edge pole swing is cool, and the combat mechanics are better in MEC, so they got that, though killing the kick glitch is highly bittersweet, though to be fair it was way op, so i don't blame them for getting rid of it, The environments are quite nice actually, I didn't find myself bored of them at all, perhaps confounded by the lack of functionality of the archetecture, the overall appearance of it is nice, the archetectural aesthetic is nice, but the actual floor plans are like something from a strange dream, quite absurd from an architectural planning perspective. If i were ea id do aa few expansion packs for MEC in a lead up to new game that takes the best of both games, gets rid of the skill tree nonsense, adds in zelda style collectible items, (the grappling hook was dope) make an open world that's more conducive to exploration, less cellular in nature, with the above issue like lack of certain moves and guns addressed as well. You want a Mirrors Edge game to do what the original did in its time, give more control and variability to the player in a rooftop playground environment, to encourage movement over beatemup combat
I loved Catalyst and I don't mind not having guns. I can understand why they did it so you couldn't use them... The game is a lot more fast and momentum focused so you're supposed to use your agility and speed to fight enemies, using guns would ruin that. Also fits the theme a bit better because it's way in the future so the guns would not work without the correct registered dna/fingerprint (I think it was mentioned somewhere)
@@banana-bunny i understand the logic, but being able to wirld weapons made some of the slower combat scenarios more fun in general, bouncing from enemy to enemy to skillfully acquire new weapons you knew had limited functionality, really you're still stuck with these types of situations in MEC you just have to trade better combat mechanics for the use of firearms, and frankly it was a mistake to not have both, if only to get in an out of combat quicker. There is the problem of the pendulum swinging too far the other direction, becoming hyperfocused such that gameplay becomes repetitive and stale. If they had carried through with the planned expansions it would be less of an issue, but the variability was a feature not a flaw in the original, one of my strongest memories is shooting through the parking garage at the docks, you've got limited ammo, no refills, and you got shoot your way to.more and better bullets, and even if you do, you can't take it with you, no parkour when youve got a 15-50 lb piece of machined steel in your hands, it just mixed things up in a way that was complimentary to the game. In the extreme If its pure running and no other challenges, then its a screensaver, not a game. Getting a good long run only feels good because its a limited resource, and youve got to finght for it, and use great skill, and the draw of both games. I pray to HaShem the next game bring back guns, but like they were in the first game, limited in ammo and limiting in movement, so you can choose that trade off when its expedient.
@@banana-bunny damn good, i love both games, they occupy 1&2 slots in my top games list, with catalyst only barely edging out mirrors edge, just for the better melee and open world, if theyd have kept the few things they neglected to add like breaking glass panes, sliding through narrow gaps, and firearms, they'd have a bigger lead iver the original still 1&2 by miles compared to anything else ive ever played
I remember when I was like 8 years old, picking this game up from a knock off blockbuster like 2 minutes walking from my house. As an 8 year old, I didn't care for anything but the fun parkour. Wil always miss this game and it will always have a special place in my heart!
I don't understand the hate for catalist i love it, sure the story is bs and so is the first ones. The open world is lovely and with out it costum time trials don't exist. Time trials are what gives the game its soul. If you like to be placed in a closed scenario then all you have to do is replay the main missions as manny times as you like.
Mirror's Edge Catalyst is not a bad game. At the core it's still the same as the first + extra stuff that was unnecessary. As far as the story goes I agree, but the first one wasn't interesing either, you didn't play that for the story. It was all about the gameplay and atmosphere and Catalyst still delivers on those.
the first seconds of the video gave me goosebumps, ME was one of my favourite game of all time ... the second game, not so much, it felt like it lost it's soul ... too bad
Original mirrors edge is still one of my favorite games ever. The open world concept of the 2nd one just didn't work. It was too bland and all those beautiful linear runs that you tried to perfect just couldn't be replicated. What a letdown.
mirrors edge catalyst is better in my opinion. i like the fighting, the finishers, they just need to make the game longer, and able to double counter the guards.
I played both games some months ago to make a review for my channel. The original is still a very enjoyable experience, albeit short. Imho the parkour feels clunky compared to what more modern games have implemented, but it's obvious that they all drew inspiration from it and Assassin's Creed. Catalyst on the other hand improved on all aspects of the movement mechanics, but reaaaally screwed the pooch by making it open-world, particularly in that very uninspired and bland manner. It's a big shame because it has some very good-looking sceneries to admire, but if you experience any degree of open-world fatigue, Mirror's Edge Catalyst will feel like a big chore after a couple of hours into it.
Literally jusy installed this and was like "I should write a video essay about this" then i look up mirrors edge and the very first video is a video essay on mirrors edge uploaded 2 weeks ago... I love the internet.
It's such a shame because they both deserved better. The first game still holds well to this day with its visuals and gameplay. My only complaints were its short length and underdeveloped story. I will defend Catalyst to the death. I loved its improved visuals, more expensive story, open world design, and challenging side missions. My only real complaint was the combat. It could've been better
I personally never understood the hate that Catalyst got. I thought it was a huge improvement in all categories. Going back to the original, it felt way more jank and limiting. My only actual complaint about Catalyst was the open world. It wasn't really open, but rather a bunch of linear paths that intersect, with very little activities to do. Plus, there was usually only one or two set paths to get from one area to another. So you end up running the same routs over and over, making it feel really repetitive.
For some reason I feel like somehow mirrors edge will make a come back and it’s going to be amazing who knows maybe it’ll be like a fan game or something fan games are usually better than the originals anyways.
I remember playing the original when I was in secondary school can’t believe this game is 13 years old now i was 12 yrs old now I’m 25 makes feel like time flies fast😭
It came out on Nov 13th, my 13th birthday. 13 was my great gramps' jersey number. It was my grandfather's lucky number, then mine. Combine with that with it being 13 years old and this year I've found major success with my art, quitting my job and everything and to have kicked it off with a Mirror's Edge themed post. Idk man, there's something magic bout this game. Sorry for the ping it's barely related just you talking about time got me thinking hard on it lol
Mirror edge is such a underrated franchise that needs to make a comeback.
I sooooo much agree 👍
@@nawidnawid9773 thank you :)
It’s gonna be better than battlefield 2042
@@slurpil12kd18 agreed
Yup
Every cutscene in Mirror's Edge 1 looked like an animated Progressive insurance commercial. And you know what? I loved it every bit of it.
I loved that animation style and wish it used more
same!
Such an underated series that doesn't get enough love.
I always end up just sitting in ME catalyst’s main menu, which puts me in this tranquil state of reflection, just remembering the happiness and greatness I experienced in my childhood of games during my middle and early high school years 2006-2011. ME Catalyst was one of those games that inspired me to pick up the piano alongside mass effect and have had a huge impact on me, including allowing me to finally come to understand how much I love music more than I originally thought.
I feel you. Mirror's Edge and especially Catalyst inspired me as a producer to make ambient stuff. All thanks to Solar Fields for making a killer soundtrack. He's such an amazing composer.
Bro I also started playing music thanks to mirrors edge and red dead especially, how some people can tell that video games are a waste of time 😂
Catalyst puts you in a “tranquil state of Reflection”? 😁 Sounds like exactly what Kruger wants you to feel… 😂
me too but with me its the first main menue
lol
I never understood the criticism of the open world. The story missions take place outside the main map and are linear, so you have linear gameplay.
But you also have a massive playground to run around in when you want to do something other than re-play the same linear levels over and over.
It's the best of both worlds.
Because if you are going to have an large open world to explore, you need to make sure the game has enough to warrant it. I don't mean having skyrim levels of stuff to do but enough to make it worth exploring every little nook and cranny of the world. If you don't add enough it can feel empty and dull.
I honestly found myself liking how Dying Light combined the parkour movement with zombie killing and the like. Story wasn't the best but the world can be fun to explore, especially once you end up upgrading yourself and I am sure people get a kick out of using all your parkour skills to avoid and run from zombies and hunters at night.
The problem with an open world game you have to fill it with interesting stuff for people to do and explore the world. GTA is one of the games that is able to do that. Mirror Edge Catalyst fails because its world is so empty. It was very pretty to look at but there was nothing interesting to do.
@@ApplePotato I'll agree that it doesn't compare to the "things" in GTA V but you can't use GTA V to compare against any game. Nothing compares to GTA V. Not RDR2. Not Cyberpunk 2077. Nothing.
I'm also sick and tired of how games have been throwing junk into 1,000 different corners to draw out the game. "I gotta check over here, there might be something I don't need." I'm seriously sick of it. Far Cry with all the gas/metal scraps/etc. lying around everywhere. Assassin's Creed with all the barrels with maybe silver/maybe not/other junk.
It's all pure filler to make up for the short games they actually are. It turns a 4 hour game into a 40 hour game. I can't emphasize enough how sick I am of devs pulling this stunt.
Let me add that Mirror's Edge Catalyst does have stuff to collect.. but it's 100% irrelevant to completing the story or upgrading anything. It's something you can go back to that will help you explore the map and find new places or are in places that maybe you couldn't get to at first.. but after putting some time in the game, you can now figure out how to do it.
The point is, you don't need any of the extra stuff in this game to "upgrade" or "build" or "supply" anything or anyone. It's not there to drag the game out and make you go through it at a snail's pace. It's there to make you feel rewarded for learning skills and becoming more accustomed to the game and to give you a reason to play it after the story. That and the leaderboards.. and the ability to make custom runs and share them with the world/try out other people's custom runs.
But, hey, the majority of games were like that back then, anyways. It's just become a seriously terrible trend lately with these zoomer devs that only have this one answer to the question of "how can we lengthen our game?" More missions? More parts to the story? Nah... just throw junk that you have to have everywhere except where you are supposed to go for the story.
They don't make games like they used to.
I haven't played Dying Light 2 but I bet you it's the same way. Junk everywhere. Junk to the left when you know you're supposed to go right for the story. Junk that helps you upgrade... no, junk that you NEED to use to upgrade. It's only there to drag out games. It's the easy answer to the hard question of "how can we make our game take time to complete?"
This poor excuse for lengthening games was first really noticed by me in Metro Exodus. That was fine.. every game wasn't doing that. Now they are. It turned that 5-6 hour game into a 55+ hour game if you want to check out every question mark on the map. It wasn't done badly in Metro Exodus. It's been done badly by every game since.
I just got done playing Catalyst for the first time and came to RUclips to see what people said about the game. I’m also totally baffled people didn’t like it. I do wish there were more missions, but all in all it’s not a bad starting point.
@@itsjusteddie7384 I just started a new game in it 3 or 4 days ago, myself, lol. Kinda got sidetracked after downloading Middle-Earth: Shadow of War but, yeah.. I dunno. It's a great game.
All it takes is some "authority", aka a dude at home making YT vids, to say something is bad and bam... people follow.
The skill that lets you roll when you land is the FIRST skill you get, but I've seen that used as an example of how the skill tree is bad lol. It's the FIRST SKILL after the tutorial makes you use a skill point on unlocking the map.
I dunno.. game is great. People be trippin.
Mirror's edge catalyst is great. Hopefully we'll see a new one someday...
Man I love Mirror's Edge Catalyst.
Yes.
I absolutely adore this series, Catalyst is one of my favourite games. Even moreso than the original!
I can definitely imagine a multiplayer mode with racing one day
I actually don't know a single person that disliked Catalyst. But that's because I don't know anyone that even tried the game in the first place. I think the problem of that game was not the quality but the lack of marketing and the fact that it only came out on Origin and not on Steam. I remember watching a gaming podcast in the weeks after it came out and the hosts were like "oh wait, this game already came out?", even though they are all full time variety streamers who usually know about all new releases. I think most people never even tried the game at all because it just flew completely under the radar and many people weren't even aware that it had been released.
I must be in the minority I actually liked Catalyst the original ME will always be the best of course. Both games still feel unique and fresh compared to everything else out there.
Indeed it showed how much the game was given love, that is why some of us was so emotionally attached to the game Catalyst
Indeed same. I really love both to bits. But I have definitely put more time into catalyst now than the OG.
You're not the minority. I don't know what's up this channel's butt. The game is/was great.
@Romanian patriot It sure is man.
Catalyst was infinitely better than ME imo. ME was great and had a lot of potential but Catalyst is so much more fulfilling.
Literally the biggest complaint everyone had about Mirror’s Edge 1 was that it wasn’t open-world. Then Catalyst came out and the biggest complaint was that it wasn’t linear… 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
For real
I actually enjoyed catalyst.
I always wanted to play the game, and I just got my hands on it, and it's great
good
Its not good. the guns made the game. Then the game went pure canadian. Gay
@BasedRoots someone needs a hug 💀
@@l.ANOMALOUS.l why are you gae?
The brightness of mirrors edge 1 made it age so darn well. You mostly notice the low res textures when looking at signs, but outside of that the untrained eye could see it as a game released much later.
I miss this game
I loved catalyst because of the open world
And in the first one, I loved the fluid gameplay
Crazy how the atmosphere of this series is so good and unique. The game is pretty much empty, but there's something about it that makes me fascinated. I think its the same thing with The Last of Us 1 or RE4, where the world is there, very empty, but you, somehow, feel it.
Few game mechanics are as satisfying as hitting a flow in Mirrors Edge.
I loved Catalyst more than the original. It met my demands. People said they wanted an online race, but for the next game I need a coop
I got an even better question for you.What the hell happened to GamingBolt?
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I loved the mirror’s edge catalyst open world tho :( it had a super beautiful architecture and world design, with more new mechanics, I think it works so well for an open world, but maybe they could add more fun activities to the open world map
Played Catalyst from start to finish during lockdown. Fell in love with the series
I think it all comes down to preferences. I personally love the cyberpunk genre, and Mirror’s Edge’s striking visuals (both the original and Catalyst) combine with the smooth free-running seems perfect for an open-world parkour game to me. Sometimes I just put on a synthwave playlist and just run.
For example, the parkour in Dying Light feels really forced and lackluster to me. ME brings you the sinking feeling when you stand on a building’s edge looking down, makes you feel the weight of each jump, and when you successfully execute a hard sequence of moves you feel gratifying. DL’s parkour is basically run along the street, vault over some cars, jump over a wall, climb a small shed, jump back down to the street and keep running. So in the end, even though DL allegedly “has more stuff to do”, exploring the open-world seems like an absolute chore, whereas just running in ME is much more enjoyable, at least to me.
Mirrors edge catalyst's story actually had a pretty good understandable story line. maybe its just me.
I don’t care what anyone says, ME & MEC are classics and some of the most underrated gems from last generation
Mirror's Edge changed my life. I wish they didn't abandon this franchise.
Many people don't deserve this game..this game world is so beautiful , peace and music tooo it's like dreamy.....so as soon later every gamers will understand this game and I hope they will make mirror edge 3....
Mirrors Edge, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dante's Inferno - I miss the days when EA actually had the ambition to create electronic art. Or at least interesting and new kind of gaming experiences.
I must say, having played videogames virtually my whole life, Mirror's Edge Catalyst is the only game that caused me to experience a strong sense of vertigo. This was the most pronounced during the final mission on the Spire. Just insane.
I love this series and I wish it was given more love. It is so unique and beautiful.
He didn't even mention the fact that the first game ended on a cliffhanger (and Catalyst is a non-canon prequel) and they replaced Faith's VA with a shittier one. Also, the new Faith doesn't really look like the old one, and I'm not talking about the clothes. All these things serve to sour it for long time fans, making it hard for them to feel invested, and confusing newer ones when they go and try to figure out the canon. This just makes both parties, new and old, say fuck it and go play Battlefront 2.
I love catalyst… ist has something that the og mirrors edge cant deliver.
A Comeback would be highly appreciated
Despite "all that", I still very much enjoyed playing the Original and the sequel. (I would buy a third release if they offered one.) Pass it on......
modern ea would ask for 60 dollars for the jump feature to work
Im playing catalyst for the first time right now and ive actually been liking the story. Multiple times throughout playing ive just been like “man this should be a movie trilogy, or tv show. It could be so cool”
I mean in that GeForce now leak it did had a RTX remaster mentioned and surprisingly they are reviving dead space and I think this franchise still has a chance and it may not see the light for some time cause dice is doing some stuff currently but maybe some other studio can pick it up and make something out it but yeah we'll see.
Still love these games. Its a shame such a great idea on paper ultimately flopped financially and even critically when thinking about the second one.
I will say though, ME is a bit of a pioneer for first person platforming. Not saying it was the first or even one of the first, just that it really moved the mechanic forward.
You can definitely see this game’s influence in titles like Dying Light.
Just repeating the same old criticisms from years ago.. there's a reason it has a die hard fan base.. and one of those is the fact it's not another dam generic shooter game. There's nothing like it as a "wholistic" gaming experience.. free running, ambience, music score, styling and awesome oob areas u can get to using glitches and play for hrs OUTSIDE of the predefined areas.. one of my favourite games for that alone
I would love for the series to make a comeback. I replay Mirror's Edge every now and again because of how serene and fluid it is. The visuals were unlike any other game at the time. Yes the second was nothing to rave about but that first game stuck with me and still stands the test of time.
eh i had a lot more fun with Catalyst than with the first game, and the combat is much improved there as well. i don't think people give the game a fair shake.
You forget to mention how stunning the World is, in Catalyst!
Ppl always sooking about Catslyst, and now the characters too apparently I loved the game and the characters I just wished there was MORE interaction and with NPCs also as well as being able to walk on lower ground. Either way loved it, I wish they'd at least release DLC for it.
There was so many possibilities and opportunities for a better plot driven exciting mirror's edge but unfortunately the series wasn't a priority I remember playing this game year's ago the music aesthetic and atmosphere still holds up today and is beautiful to explore during the puzzles solar fields did a great job on the soundtrack fans are still waiting for Faith's return.
EA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THIS IP NO MORE
I ❤ the original Mirror's Edge, it's easily part of my Top 10 List of First Person games of all time, especially because of it's original creative & artistic design. I hope the series gets rejuvenated someday since Catalyst had such a different feel & just wasn't that good of a prequel. (imho)
I love mirror edge because the game really focuses on parkour. sure there are other parkour games but Demn mirror edge really is something. This game need to be come back
Honestly, whoever says that the combat in Mirrors edge catalyst is clunky just sucks at the game. I think it’s way smoother than the first one
The fact discussed in the video is just so true. These days studios that can make such great games fear to fail and incur losses just to experiment something new. As a result we gamers are getting same bunch of games with is just fluffed with some boring side quests or open world to fill up the time. The smaller studios free from this try hard to try out new things but for them, budget becomes the problem. I hope something can level this out and we can once again enjoy fresh and new concepts that are nicely implemented.
I think this is asking a lot but is it really?
Ask yourself would you gamble to lose your job every year + lose the money you put aside, or would you rather have a save working place without risk that pays well?
People complain all the time, nothing is good enough for the hordes of the toxic, entitled gamers today. if you go experimental you get hate, people dont want to preorder either, they dont like DLC and dont want games as a service or ads. There is no way to create experimental, creative games with a AAA budget with the toxic customers mentality, who dont even want to pay.
@@bellonasservant4496 you are probably right bro. Even if someone likes one thing, there will be someone disliking the same. Guess gotta make a list of things we want and then give it to studios to get customised games XD
@@khushjain8679 people arent able to agree on a list either.... wich is actually a good thing. It would be boring if everyone had the same taste.
The bad part is the pool of games gets smaller and more low budget the more you stray away from the mainstream. In that case there are "2" main options. Support the small indie, niche games with your money, or develop your own games. Toning down your expectations also helps.
Yo I’m so happy people are still talking about this game cause I haven’t heard of it in such a long time and it’s just an nostalgic game.
Just letting all know Mirrors Edge is 4k60 on XSX while Catalyst is 900p with autoHDR and 120fps. They both look stunning, but the original really shines in 4K.
Edit: Catalyst is also on Gamespass.
The first game inspired me sm as a kid god damn I wanted to be faith so bad bro I wish I didn't have a fear of heights
dude seeing "financial district 1:58 pm" made me so nostalgic and sad. I miss the atmosphere of this game. It really feels like the atmosphere of real life when I would go downtown into the city as an 8 year old and look up at the big buildings and just have a feeling of peace and calm. I miss that shiit soooo much lol
The combat in catalyst was great
The original was rather bold for its time... You have to remember that in 2008 the gaming world was FLOODED with the expectation that every first person game HAD to be big burly men in war torn scenes with lots of chest high walls to hide behind, basically Halo and Gears of War. Then comes this bright game with a unique look to this day that swapped muscle man for a thin parkour woman.
I gotta be the only person I know that loves Catalyst more than the original. The original WAS good for its time, but it didn't age well and I really feel like the story was made up in the last 3 weeks of development. Catalyst isn't the next great novel or anything, but the story and world held my attention a lot more. I think DICE shouldn't have gone full open world like they did in Catalyst, but they did good.
I have the Catalyst collectors edition statue in my room and sometimes I look at it depressed because I know this game is never going to get a third game. It's always awesome to me whenever I meet someone who loved the series like me.
Mirror's edge felt like one of those really cool dreams you accidentally wake up from and try to quickly fall back asleep to try and go back.
yeah catalyst wasn't a great sequel to the series, but I still play it to this day. It's a very calm and refreshing game. Add in some Mods to bump the graphics and it's beautiful
tbh i like everything about the sequel more then the first game
i never found it complicated or clunky i could even turn off runners vision and know where to go
and the characters were quite good
I found the combat to be the best melee combat I've ever experienced in video games, it was a blast
Mirrors Edge needs a new game on Next-Gen only consoles. Imagine running through Glass at 60fps in 4K with beautiful graphics while a banger beat plays while you’re running. I wouldn’t even care if the game doesn’t do anything new to the formula. I just want a next-Gen Mirrors Edge
The feeling of realizing yes you actually can make that jump was so amazing
Nonsense, the open world was one of the redeeming features on MEC, which I as a good game, the only problem with the map was the cellular nature of the layout which created bottlenecks, the other key issues that kept it from perfect were that they should've kept the guns as they were in the first game and kept the ledge/small gap sliding, i saw so many places in MEC that og faith would have had no trouble with but because the slipping move was taken out there were these intraversable gaps that even my 210lb frame could've squeezed through, also breaking glass panels is highly missed here, as well as reaction mechanics for civilian npcs, they should've been more interactive.
The open world in it's current form is better than the og game where it is the same but less of it, and that wasn't a good thing, and i have gone back and played through the original again after playing through MEC, and as much as i loved the forst game the open world environment is simply better.
The edge pole swing is cool, and the combat mechanics are better in MEC, so they got that, though killing the kick glitch is highly bittersweet, though to be fair it was way op, so i don't blame them for getting rid of it,
The environments are quite nice actually, I didn't find myself bored of them at all, perhaps confounded by the lack of functionality of the archetecture, the overall appearance of it is nice, the archetectural aesthetic is nice, but the actual floor plans are like something from a strange dream, quite absurd from an architectural planning perspective.
If i were ea id do aa few expansion packs for MEC in a lead up to new game that takes the best of both games, gets rid of the skill tree nonsense, adds in zelda style collectible items, (the grappling hook was dope) make an open world that's more conducive to exploration, less cellular in nature, with the above issue like lack of certain moves and guns addressed as well. You want a Mirrors Edge game to do what the original did in its time, give more control and variability to the player in a rooftop playground environment, to encourage movement over beatemup combat
Its a test of agility, of manuverability It's the lotus elise of the videogame franchises where as battlefield is more like a range rover
I loved Catalyst and I don't mind not having guns. I can understand why they did it so you couldn't use them... The game is a lot more fast and momentum focused so you're supposed to use your agility and speed to fight enemies, using guns would ruin that. Also fits the theme a bit better because it's way in the future so the guns would not work without the correct registered dna/fingerprint (I think it was mentioned somewhere)
It's pretty good for what the team had to work with
@@banana-bunny i understand the logic, but being able to wirld weapons made some of the slower combat scenarios more fun in general, bouncing from enemy to enemy to skillfully acquire new weapons you knew had limited functionality, really you're still stuck with these types of situations in MEC you just have to trade better combat mechanics for the use of firearms, and frankly it was a mistake to not have both, if only to get in an out of combat quicker. There is the problem of the pendulum swinging too far the other direction, becoming hyperfocused such that gameplay becomes repetitive and stale.
If they had carried through with the planned expansions it would be less of an issue, but the variability was a feature not a flaw in the original, one of my strongest memories is shooting through the parking garage at the docks, you've got limited ammo, no refills, and you got shoot your way to.more and better bullets, and even if you do, you can't take it with you, no parkour when youve got a 15-50 lb piece of machined steel in your hands, it just mixed things up in a way that was complimentary to the game.
In the extreme If its pure running and no other challenges, then its a screensaver, not a game. Getting a good long run only feels good because its a limited resource, and youve got to finght for it, and use great skill, and the draw of both games. I pray to HaShem the next game bring back guns, but like they were in the first game, limited in ammo and limiting in movement, so you can choose that trade off when its expedient.
@@banana-bunny damn good, i love both games, they occupy 1&2 slots in my top games list, with catalyst only barely edging out mirrors edge, just for the better melee and open world, if theyd have kept the few things they neglected to add like breaking glass panes, sliding through narrow gaps, and firearms, they'd have a bigger lead iver the original still 1&2 by miles compared to anything else ive ever played
I remember when I was like 8 years old, picking this game up from a knock off blockbuster like 2 minutes walking from my house. As an 8 year old, I didn't care for anything but the fun parkour. Wil always miss this game and it will always have a special place in my heart!
I literally got into parkour because of this game. A game made me exercise dammit!
I don't understand the hate for catalist i love it, sure the story is bs and so is the first ones. The open world is lovely and with out it costum time trials don't exist. Time trials are what gives the game its soul. If you like to be placed in a closed scenario then all you have to do is replay the main missions as manny times as you like.
Mirror's Edge Catalyst is not a bad game. At the core it's still the same as the first + extra stuff that was unnecessary. As far as the story goes I agree, but the first one wasn't interesing either, you didn't play that for the story. It was all about the gameplay and atmosphere and Catalyst still delivers on those.
1st is legendary while catalysts has better movement but a dead world
the first seconds of the video gave me goosebumps, ME was one of my favourite game of all time ... the second game, not so much, it felt like it lost it's soul ... too bad
This question made me wake up from being tired lol
Original mirrors edge is still one of my favorite games ever. The open world concept of the 2nd one just didn't work. It was too bland and all those beautiful linear runs that you tried to perfect just couldn't be replicated. What a letdown.
mirrors edge catalyst is better in my opinion. i like the fighting, the finishers, they just need to make the game longer, and able to double counter the guards.
Great video Gamingbolt!
I played both games some months ago to make a review for my channel. The original is still a very enjoyable experience, albeit short. Imho the parkour feels clunky compared to what more modern games have implemented, but it's obvious that they all drew inspiration from it and Assassin's Creed. Catalyst on the other hand improved on all aspects of the movement mechanics, but reaaaally screwed the pooch by making it open-world, particularly in that very uninspired and bland manner. It's a big shame because it has some very good-looking sceneries to admire, but if you experience any degree of open-world fatigue, Mirror's Edge Catalyst will feel like a big chore after a couple of hours into it.
I played the PS4 Version, is there any reason to go back and try the older one?
Literally jusy installed this and was like "I should write a video essay about this" then i look up mirrors edge and the very first video is a video essay on mirrors edge uploaded 2 weeks ago... I love the internet.
It's such a shame because they both deserved better. The first game still holds well to this day with its visuals and gameplay. My only complaints were its short length and underdeveloped story.
I will defend Catalyst to the death. I loved its improved visuals, more expensive story, open world design, and challenging side missions. My only real complaint was the combat. It could've been better
Catalyst feels like Mirror's edge but something is missing. I played them both recently for the first time so it isn't a nostalgia problem
I finished the original Mirror's Edge for the first time today on my Xbox Series S via EA Play and found it a great game overall
I personally never understood the hate that Catalyst got. I thought it was a huge improvement in all categories. Going back to the original, it felt way more jank and limiting. My only actual complaint about Catalyst was the open world. It wasn't really open, but rather a bunch of linear paths that intersect, with very little activities to do. Plus, there was usually only one or two set paths to get from one area to another. So you end up running the same routs over and over, making it feel really repetitive.
Dice just stated that "because of" their failure that is BF, Dice put everything else on hold including Mirrors Edge
Oh, the first one was a master piece, and it still holds up well
What happened is the second game didnt sell well sadly
ME1 runs on pretty much any modern low end machine it's fun for everyone, easy to get started too
it’s so underrated as everyone has mentioned, need a switch version of this:(
I got the collection which included both games and am playing it on my aya neo handheld pc 😏
I finished it 17 times believe me or not,best game i ever played
For some reason I feel like somehow mirrors edge will make a come back and it’s going to be amazing who knows maybe it’ll be like a fan game or something fan games are usually better than the originals anyways.
I beta tested both games in the franchise on my PC and the games showed promise, but there's something about it that didn't click with many people.
On the Nvidia leak, there was a Mirror's Edge RTX remaster and possibly a sequel to catalyst
I remember playing the original when I was in secondary school can’t believe this game is 13 years old now i was 12 yrs old now I’m 25 makes feel like time flies fast😭
It came out on Nov 13th, my 13th birthday. 13 was my great gramps' jersey number. It was my grandfather's lucky number, then mine. Combine with that with it being 13 years old and this year I've found major success with my art, quitting my job and everything and to have kicked it off with a Mirror's Edge themed post.
Idk man, there's something magic bout this game. Sorry for the ping it's barely related just you talking about time got me thinking hard on it lol
the first mirrors edge was a masterpiece, a pillar of gaming and i'll never forget it
This game needed to be in 3rd person.
I tried playing the second one and couldn’t even get over the tutorial. Not my cup of tea but hey the world doesn’t revolve around me
I honestly liked the combat and freeroam of catalyst but the story was meh
@@YaBoyRascal good for u. I most play third person games. Destiny 2 and Cod are the exceptions when it comes to first person shooters
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodca9576 have your tried Infamous? The parkour is pretty good in that series
I think parkour in prototype is better
@@YaBoyRascal yeah. I played Infamous Second Son and First Light. Pretty good games
I used to think it was the dogs bollocks tbh
This game doesn't even look it's an 13 year old game
Back when games were for people with hand eye coordination
Looking back on this, this reminds me of apex. They definitely could do so much with the movement if they ever reboot.
This game is one of the best games I've ever played.
Breaks my heart how the sequel went. Should have never been open world.
a new jet set radio just got announced so im still hoping mirrors edge might happen one day :p
I don't know why, but I get a lot of Perfect Dark vibes from Mirror's Edge
They don't want good games. They want profitable games.
Even the art and sort of aesthetic of this game is enough to make it good.
I find the combat in catalyst super fun. Whoever is playing in the backround is not very good at either of the games.
The mirrors edge games were awesome...just needed more TLC.