Mjölner, CV90 Mounted Mortar System
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- The vehicle mounted mortar system Mjölner, named Granatkastarpansarbandvagn 90 by the Swedish Armed Forces, adds indirect fire capability to any suitable vehicle, wheeled or tracked.
Mjölner is a turret solution with two smoothbore 120 mm mortars. The weapon is loaded via a robust mechanical system allowing rapid, reliable, and sustainable fire in all combat conditions.
I hope to goodness I can come play with this in the future haha!! 😎😝
Hi Matsimus, I hope you get to do another visit. I really liked the video from your first visit. 🙂
Nice seeing you here Matsimus. Love your videos. Hope you're well.
Matsimus :DDD
we just need enough players to spam "mjolner when?" to the devs
As an American I would like to see us add this and the Archer to our military.
Logistics wouldn't check out for US to use an entirely new chassis just for a single weapon system
@@thechlebek901Maybe… add this kind of turret with this double barreled mortar system (not restricted to 120mm) on that new M-10 Booker chassis.
If they can Frankenstein this on the Stryker or the Bradley to help with the logistics
You should make a video showing of the 16 rounds per minute capability of this beast.
There are enough videos showing only one salvo already 🤭
Bigger!! Go with several vehicles each sending 16 rounds.
@@jimmiller5600 Preferably in Ukraine on some mobiks
@@Bravo955 While using those Israeli 120mm cluster munitions. "Greetings to Tsar Putin!"
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@WhiteSnowIsBetterThanYellow That's not the mortar varient my friend
Sweden has some great gear for a country that hasn't fought in any war since 1814. Pays to be ready.
how would we know if its great if its never been combat tested let alone proven? im not saying these arent capable but i think its more about looking high tech and cool rather than usefulness, the entire CV90 family is really only good for Speed and Modularity
We aren't ready, the same politicans who forced massmigration on us (M, S etc) are the same politicans who have wanted to mount down our defense for 30 years and have been doing so, while we nationalists have wanted to make us have a strong defense. Bunch of traitors and clowns. We're already invaded, what are we gonna do with these... if they don't defend against 1nvaders anyway, just call it migration and 1nvasion is "legal".
The CV90 system have been combat tested in the middle east, they will be tested again in Ukraine soon on a more modern battlefield.
Engelbrektson! Mäktigt efternamn!
The best all round vehicle in the world today!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd say the second best. While I really love the CV90 and its capabilities the modularity is limited to the building process (better than most out there, tho!)
But when it comes to modularity after purchase it's definitely the Boxer (and lynx). You can switch out the whole mission module on the fly and so every vehicle can switch into whatever role needed.
Although I have to admit that the standard 20mm Canon on the lance turret is pretty meh compared to the CV option. Never understood why our military chose this calibre for the PUMA. It's like they didn't want to PUMA to be able to engage enemy IFVs..😕
Combination of mobile direct fire and indirect fire platforms could be very effective when coupled with organic UAV observer.
Love the Mjölner! It looks so badass!
looks mean nothing on the battlefield.
@@Stockfish1511 What?
@@kristofferhellstrom looking badass does not mean it performs well. It has to be tested to say it can perform. Its only combat experience is patrool in afghanistan and combat engagment against 50 talibans with aks.
@@Stockfish1511 Well. The CV90 which the Mjölner is built on have performed in Afghanistan.
@@kristofferhellstrom Perform against who lol? They were just in patrol missions and against 50 afgani talibans with AK. What makes you think this will perform say in ukraine against powerfull weapons like Strike aviation, guided missiles, artillery strikes from 152-300 mm, drone strikes or for that matter against tanks that or similar equipment? 125 mm anti tank, or guided atgms. Tbh it might to well, but until its tested its bunch of speculation. Just on the first look side armor plates look very thin even an old RPG 7 will blow that up. The backside is pretty much exposed. The turret looks good for what it is. However frontal armor is not very angle. Direct armor piercing will blow it apart. Comparing to say russian newer IFV like BMP3. Its much slower, heavier very slightly thicker armor although it really doesnt matter. Both can barely withstand around 30mm canon and fodder to anything else of bigger caliber. So it got extra weight and armor thickness for no particular benefit. Its better than nothing. But not that impressive as the social media makes it to be. Bradleys are better armed and better armored and they have combat experience.
Ive said for years we needed cv90 over Ajax since we had Danish cv90s with us on Op Moshtarak in Afghanistan
Precision Guidance KIts developed for 120mm mortar rounds have been available for about 7 years. These kits replace the standard fuze of the round with units with fins that act as canards that are capable of controlling the trajectory of the flight of the round. There are GPS guidance kits like the XM395 developed by Northrop Grumman and used in Afghanistan where it achieved CEP of approximately 3-5m. There are also 2 120mm mortar PGK from Elbit Systems of Israel one that has GPS only and the other with GPS and laser combined. Both will fit any standard 120mm mortar shell in place of the standard fuze. Accuracy is given as less than 10m for GPS (so likely the same 3-5m as the US XM395) and less than 1m for laser guidance. Elbit also has fully integrated GPS and GPS/laser 120mm mortar rounds including the Rapier with GPS guidance that extends the range of 120mm mortars to 16 km.
The use of these precision guided rounds in combination with the Mjölner system on the CV90 converts a mortar system from a system that must fire a number of rounds including ranging rounds to adjust fire in order to accomplish a fire mission to a precision weapon capable of first round strikes with only 1 or 2 rounds required to destroy a specific target like an ammunition cache, command post or specific light or unarmored vehicle. Even missions that require multiple impacts over a larger area like targeting vehicle parks or troop concentrations can be more efficiently targeted by firing at specific GPS coordinates to space shells out to have even lethality zone overlap. One potential mission of this sort in the current Russian invasion of Ukraine is for battalion level mortars to be able to walk precision fires programmed for airbursts evenly spaced down a Russian trench line. The ability of systems like the Mjölner to fire rounds at a determined set of angles and charges to allow a number of shells to hit their target simultaneously. A single Mjölner could time 6 rounds to land at their programmed coordinates within just a couple of seconds of each other. With 50 m spacing between impact points (lethal radius is given at 30m, so there would be a 10m overlap in certain lethality), this would mean 300 m of the trench line could be hit with high lethality all at once by a single CV90 Mjölner. A squadron of 5 CV90 Mjölner in tight coordination would be able to blanket 1500 m of a trench system with all rounds landing within seconds of each other without warning that would allow invaders to take better cover.
The higher cost of these guidance kits is partially and even potentially full offset by the much fewer rounds that must be fired. And then there is the reduction of weight that must be carried by the supply lines in order for a mortar system to complete the same number of fire mission, or the ability to accept many more fire missions for the same sized supply chain. Then there is the priceless ability to not have to stay in one place for long periods of time required to accomplish a fire mission using unguided rounds and so be able to be long gone when counter battery rounds start to arrive at your previous position.
If each vehicle also could carry a few rounds like the Swedish Strix with an active infrared seeker and shaped charge warhead, or a new round with a shaped charge and an semi active laser seeker that could hit the laser spot designated by laser designator equipped drone standing off a kilometer or more away, the CV90 Mjölner would also have highly accurate antitank capability from up to 7 km away.
To me this is a far more impressive capability than the 120mm cannon version of the CV90 since that version requires exposing itself to direct counterfire by the more heavily armored tank that it is designed to hunt in order to get the necessary line-of-sight. Much better to stay on the far side of the hill and rain demonically accurate hellfire down on the enemy when they can't see you, don't even know you are there and can't shoot back once they do.
I ea I agree with all the facts you posted.
But the bit at the end is just wrong.
So lets jsut ignore that the CV90 can use gps guided mortar shells too. Point is either way, the CV90 does not require a direct line of sight nor has to be in danger of mroe heavily armored main battle tanks.
CV90s can work with the information from other sources to do the trigonometry for the shells/target and does not require direct line of sight itself.
Furthermore, these other sources can include drones, drones like the ones every CV 90 comes with.
So the drone form the CV 90 can acquire the target the CV90 behind a hill can shoot at it with moderm mortar rounds that are super accurate and can immediatly reposition and do it again from a sligthly different position.
Also this thing has a higher firerate.
One way or the other, the last bit with direct line of sight and danger from mroe heavily armed tanks is just false.
xoxo have a good one
@@AGenericFool Sorry for the confusion. The CV90 isn't just a single vehicle. Rather it is a family of 5 very different vehicles all built on the same basic CV90 chassis.
My comment about needing to have LOS was in reference to the *_CV90120_* member of the CV90 family, which mounts a 120mm long barreled high velocity _cannon_ of the type used by MBTs. To use its cannon, the CV9120 has to establish a LOS to its target. That means that the target or the tank or IFV sitting nearby to its target also has LOS to the CV90120.
*That* is why I said the *_CV90 Mjölner_* , the tracked mortar carrier of the CV 90 family with the Mjölner mortar system is a very underrated combination.
I think that the price of precision guidance kits (PGKs) that screw into any 120mm mortar rounds and give them CEPs of 3-5m or even less than 1m if the kit includes a semi-active laser guidance system is getting very close to the price of unguided rounds when compared on the total cost of the rounds to complete a fire mission. An individual PGK equipped round still cost something like 8 to 10 times more than an unguided round with a standard fuse. But if it only takes 1-2 GPS or laser guided shells to complete the fire mission rather than 20 unguided rounds, then where it really counts, cost per target, the costs are the same.
But that doesn't factor in the reduced logistics train required to get the necessary number of shells to the pointy end of the stick, the major force multiplier effect of one CV90 Mjölner firing entirely precision guided shells having the same effectiveness as 4 or 5 of the same vehicle firing unguided rounds so the cost in equipment and personnel required to achieve the same effect drops sharply. And then there is the greatly increase survivability as a result of the very small to non-existent window for counter battery fire to respond before the CV90 Mjölner can move a sufficient distance from its firing location to longer be in danger of counterbattery fire that greatly reduces the greatly reducing the cost of replace destroyed equipment and the irreplicable loss but monetarily costly replacement of highly trained soldiers.
So the costs of just GPS and laser guided rounds for the 120mm mortar could probably still be 2 or 3 times more than the cost of the unguided rounds and it would still likely be cheaper overall to just shoot all precision rounds. And when that happens, there will be a real change in that status and prestige of the Mjölner version of the CV90 relative to its showier brothers.
Are we still in agreement?
Mjölner! Vilket förbaskat bra namn!
Mjölner är ändå ett rätt badass namn!
badass!! Need to get these to the battlefield
Nice quick video. No fluff. Thank you.
Mjölner is the name of Thors mighty hammer...
Yeah. Thors Hammer is a bad ass name, and quite accurate for this weapon system 👍😀
such a badass this platform!
CV90 My beloved ❤
I wish Finns and Swedes would have continued with AMOS, but I guess that was too expensive in the end. Now each country continued a bit different directions with Mjölner & NEMO. My guess is Swedes wanted to strip tech, and were able to put more armour (and weight) to fit it on their CV90s and Finns continued with the tech but stripped weight (e.g. a barrell) to be able to mount it on their (lighter/cheaper) Patria 6x6 vehicles. Since Finns also have CV90s, it wouldn't hurt anyone (except the enemy) to buy few Mjölners for them as well.
AMOS (mounted on... CV90, Patria AMV 8x8 (heavy weapons platform variant), Combat Boat 2010 etc)
- 2 x 120mm
- Time to fire: < 30 sec
- Max rate: 16 rounds/minute
- Sustained rate: 10 rounds/minute
- Turret weight: 3.600kg
- Traverse: 360°
- MRSI: 10 rounds
- Direct fire capability: Yes, 1.5km
- Fire on the move (direct/indirect) capability: No?
MJÖLNER (mounted on... CV90 and similar)
- 2 x 120mm
- Time to fire: < 2 min
- Max rate: 16 rounds/minute
- Sustained rate: 6 rounds/minute
- Turret weight: 8.100kg
- Traverse: 60°
- MRSI: No, rounds need Precision Guidance Kits. Or perhaps STRIX rounds by Saab?
- Direct fire capability: No
- Fire on the move (direct/indirect) capability: No
NEMO (mounted on... Patria AMV 8x8 (basic model), GM Lav 8x8, Patria 6x6, Jehu-class patrol boat, truck/boat/train with Container etc)
- 1 x 120mm
- Time to fire: < 30 sec
- Max rate: 10 rounds/minute
- Sustained rate: 6 rounds/minute
- Turret weight: 1.900kg
- Traverse: 360°
- MRSI: 5 rounds
- Direct fire capability: Yes, 1.5km
- Fire on the move (direct/indirect) capability: Yes
- GOOD COMPARISON !!!
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However :
- the price difference would be interesting to know !!!
How the hell does Sweden do this while General Dynamics manages to fuck up over 8 years?
one of our biggest exports is guns.
@@zaganim3813 that wasn’t my point. General Dynamics have fucked up the Ajax program. 8 years - 550 vehicles. What do we get? Less than 25 and non of them combat suitable. Less than 10% of the vehicles.
Jag gillar verkligen hur motorn låter på CV90. Den är mycket tystare än man väntar sig av ett så stort fordon. Det bådar gott, hoppas orcsen inte hör den när den kommer smygande. 😊 💙💛💙💛
Den är både tyst men också svår att höra ut riktningen av. Ljudet ekar på någotvist i naturen bland tred och teräng. Mycket bra motor, nog!
Den hörs knappt framifrån förrän den är inom 100m, men den känns genom marken betydligt längre bort än så, och vibrationerna kan inte riktningsbedömas...
@@SonsOfLorgar OK, bra att veta. Hoppas de vibrationerna skrämmer vettet ur ryssjävlarna. 🙂
@@whitescar2 OK, tack. 🙂
Scania V8!
Tsar Putin is the best salesman.
No shade to BAE but Mjölnir is a budget solution for the Swedish Armed Forces when the funding for AMOS fell through. Might still be a commercial success due to it being a affordable add on to a CV90 fleet you already own.
But seeing our armed forces go from quality over quantity to the reverse (or in the worst case neither) is worrisome.
Yeah, looking at this when Patria AMOS is being operated in Finland and even NEMO is available...
My dudes, autoloaders are great. The Swedish defence forces don't have the manpower to waste on having two loaders on these things.
It is almost as fast to a fraction of the price and it is extremely reliable 👍🏻
A cheaper system meant that Sweden could afford to equip more mortar companies. The firepower is similar, and with more systems in the field means that a larger frontline can be covered.
@@onlypeaceindeath A medium amount of medium quality equipment is exactly what the T-72B3M exemplifies, and how that sort of thinking is death on the modern battlefield.
Go big or go old. Halfway measures end up being expensive coffins.
The firepower is not similar. Lacking MRSI, it takes a battery of Mjolners to bring the same effect on target as a single AMOS, and the survivability of the latter is also superior due to higher speed and readiness. The AMOS is ready to shoot immediately upon halting (4-5 sec) while the Mjolnir takes 2 minutes.
These are not the same.
@@whitescar2 The problem is that no matter how fancy the toys are, if you can't cover enough frontline with it, it won't do you that much good. At least against a competent enemy. From what little I could gather from the internet is that the Mjölner allowed Sweden to equip 5 mechanized battalions with 8 launchers each. Had they decided on the AMOS, the money would have only lasted for one battalion.
And while MRSI is very important during assaults, and do give the AMOS a clear advantage in certain roles, a proper army isn't a lot of equipment operating in a vacuum. If we need MRSI capable equipment, we have the Archer. If we need an eye in the sky, we have various drones, such as the Skeldar. The Mjölner was intended to replace the towed Mortars used by the Swedish army. It cut down the deployment time from 10 minutes to 2, which is a huge improvement. So half measures is only a problem if you build your entire defense on it.
Mjölner... like my Scandi ex- saids
Hammer time
Jaja, okej jag köper väl en då! :P
This is what we talked and fantasized about, 37 years ago - at GRK 5:e company.
Vinland Saga wants their soundtrack back
Looks super cool!
That Chief of Army looks like he got tons of anger issues
The long life of sycophantic corridor politics that leads to that post, you don't even want to know...
@@LosBerkos No doubt. A dog eat dog world and fake as f......
ÖB har fått en handslägga för när storsläggan behövs på annat håll😁
of course they named a mortar system after a mythological hammer
Looks awesome except the reload is derpy as heck with the little wobbly arms sticking out from the armour.
I'm very curious why this was the best solution instead of a breach loading scheme.
Might be a cost saving effort? I would assume that a tube that's welded shut is less expensive, more durable and has less point of failure than one which is breach loaded.
I was thinking the same, but then I realized just how heavy those rounds actually are. It looks flimsy, but that's around 15 Kg being dropped into the barrel, like it was a tennis ball. With that in mind, it's kind of impressive.
They should donate as many as possible to Ukraine, these would make a difference especially if used in platoon strength.
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Really it can't be that expensive to use breech loaded mortar tubes.
Is there some intrinsic reason why an indirect fire weapon can't be breach-loading? I thought infantry mortars were muzzle loading only to make for a light-weight weapon.
I happen to be looking for a new family car. Think CV90 would make school runs much more pleasant... plus ample space for pram and shopping
Do you live in a war zone? Detroit?
@@Mp57navyPortland? NYC? Los Angeles?
does this tank have active protective system or measure against incoming rockets, missiles or ballistics?
Awesome
These aren't breech loading mortars? Seems like an excessively complicated system, those little arms popping up to load? Imagine shrapnel hitting the barrels that protect the feeding system.
I don't know though, I'm just a high school dropout.
Are the Swedes trying to tell me something by recommending this?
This is only cool if you fire both tubes at the same time.
What happens if someone in camouflage await.foe the reload moment to shoot the live munition exposed?
Årets julklapp! Snä-älla tomten? 🥺🎅
I would like to order 1, my mums Honda Civic 2019 is getting a little old.
Gosh! Where can I place my order?
Yeah let's build the AMOS that we needed 25 years ago, but out of egg cartons.
Egg cartons? I don’t see any.
Hi,
I'm a content creator for a tank game known as Armored Warfare. Can I have the privilege as using the clip as a showcase for a future clip related to this tank?
And thank you!
Who sawed off the railgun from the starcraft siege tanks! :O
Why no autoloader like in Polish Rak mortar?
Less reliable. More complicated mechanism = higher chance of breaking.
BAE Systems, where come from?
There need to be a mount for a machine gun on it as well
I like how Sweden gets all the credit but BAE is a British company
Well BAE had the money, that is all.
siege tank Arclite... Is that you !?
Does it burn well?
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
Låt ryssarna se vad svenskar har för vapen 😍
Send about 10 of these to Ukraine, they will be tested to the max!
Finaly we the dutch people get it 🎉
Sold me on the name
How we can contact you.
Ждём на Украине, проверим заявленные ТТХ. We are waiting in Ukraine, we will check the declared performance characteristics.
I still have a hard time believing this is superior to manual.
How does this compare to AMOS 120?
Mjölner doesn't have the direct fire option or the ability to fire on the move like AMOS but Indirect fire performance is about the same.
Worse across the board, compromised CBRN protection, more manpower required, less ammunition capacity, 30 years late for the requirement it tries to fill.
MÄH. i am not convinced. there is too much unnecessary stuff. why do they load manually? why is thing on the top of the barrell needed
It cuts down on weight
120mm shell with airburst fuse
NO INFANTARY UNIT CAN GET NEAR ON THAT MACHINEN 😤😤😤
why not breechload inside the tank?
it makes it heavier
@@Sam_Guevenne can I ask how you know this? I can’t find any other information about the specific advantages of this loading system, I don’t see how it’s lighter or loads faster for that matter
You'd think they would come up with a faster way of loading it in a big as tank. Maybe put them in some sort of a clip like a bit ass gun.
It's to keep the ammo out of harms way for the crew, if they get hit the crew can still get out alive, the autoloading systems make them blow up because they pretty much sits on the ammo, thats what happens to russian tanks when turrets takes to the air, Abrahams and other Nato tanks are manyally loaded because of that, a trained crew us still faster than the autoloader and can load in 5-7 seconds while autoloader takes more than double that time, so it may seems old fashion to manually load but it's a seversl good reasons to do it.
And that's how you get combat vehicles that shoot the turret 20 meters in the air and kill all the crew when it gets hit, like the Russian tanks do.
@@anderspersson7084 Tell this to Polish RAK mortar crew. RAK mortar has autoloader and crew is protected. Autoloader give crucial advantages in terms of loading times.
@@albertkowalski5629 relative to the system and servicemen training regimes.
Se till så ni kan lägga 2st i samma ränna samtidigt istället, så slippper man momentet där man behöver trycka upp laddningen med handen!
Säger experten
Du borde jobba hos Hägglunds ^^
Ingridience
صل على محمد وال محمد
It's kind of like AMOS?
AMOS is dead projetct. fins maked a turret for that and sweden maded a platfrom what was CV90. now fins have NEMO and swden have this one what i saw 1st time.
Depense on what you mean by "kind of like".
If you mean a twin barrel, self-propelled mortar system, then yes.
If you mean the loading and fireing mechanism, no.
@@Turtti781 Sattumoisin AMOS on silti patrian AMV alustalla mutta ei kai siinä sitten jos väität toisin.
@@Cptlink420 juu niit on tehty 12 AMV alustalle mutta 0 CV90 alustalle.
@@Turtti781 Aaa taisin sitten vaa lukea väärin kommenttisi. Jees.
Shame it still need manual loading.
Doesn't have to be a bad thing. No autoloader means less risk for complicated mechanism failure.
“Why use this when you can use a cheaper m113?”
Cause the m113 is a stupid piece of crap that should have been out-phased decades ago
The m113 is crap
They should be used for target practice
And that’s it
Maybe a military ambulance
As long as you gut the thing for that purpose
M113 med GRK är ändå ljusår bättre än att dra GRK M/41 efter Tgb 30 eller Bv 206 som Sverige gjorde i många många år.
Well looks ok, but whats its combat experience? A vehicle can look fancy all that and perform shit on the battlefield.
Fint
Hope to see it in ukraine
stop begging for free stuff, buy them if u want
@@thegreenskull4244 Lol, they will "definitely" donate back half of their whole country's military equipment when it's our turn to need it, trust me I'm a doctor.
@@LosBerkos smh
@@LosBerkos More like, donate their whole country in order to pay the debts
lets see next war thunder leaks.
Would really be useful in Ukraine atm!
Stop beggin
@@thegreenskull4244 It's a very interesting form of lie, you have chosen. I wonder if you would be able to quote me "beggin".
Or are you "beggin" for attention in such a disgraceful way?
@@gunnargunnhilt stop begging for free stuff. Pay and buy
@@thegreenskull4244 I take it that you failed to quote me on "beggin". And you are still "beggin" for attention in the comments.
No sense in conversations with something like you.
@@thegreenskull4244 they're gonna keep getting free stuff paid by your taxes and there's nothing that you can do about it. Keep malding, qanonite cvck!
Now Ukraine needs such weapons !!!
Seems extremely expensive for a particularly trivial role
Mortars are not trivial they are very usefull as company support weapons
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Камуфляж прикольний
Im hoping a few of these were sent to ukraine. It would be ideal in some specific areas
Some CV90's have been sent to ukraine but i don't think it's Mjölner i think it might be the CV90B/C it has a 40mm Bofors gun
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hm, not bad. Big.
Come on, CGI impacts?
lite klen kaliber för en motordriven pjäs
Skadan blir stor ändå
12cm grk är i nedre kanten av tung grk, varje granat väger 13kg och ger ofta bättre verkan i målet än 15,5cm haubitsgranater på grund av den nästan lodräta infallsvinkeln.
Vet inte om Strix anti-tank granater finns kvar. Men det fanns den varianten förrut.
Äh, det blir väl mer ammunition så vis?
@@paulkertby8186 Klart den finns kvar!
test these in Ukraine
im sure Ukrain could make some good use of these ^^
Send them to ukraine!
а они тоже в Украину поедут?
Жизнь укропа, нге стоит таких денег как это бмп, а у укров нет таких денег, так что, будут на старом дохнуть.. да, много бед они принесут но ответ будет, трупов нет ага, всу бессмертные.
What is it with everyone promoting their own mortar system? Why are they en vogue now? Mortars have been around for so long.
Because its mobile and this one specifikt is mounted to one of the best ifvs in the world
For sales reasons maybe? The CV90 is going to Ukraine so potential buyers might be looking for info about them right now.
The British make very potent weapons.
Swedish not british
@@Sam_Guevenne Uhu, Hägglunds and Bofors are British companies, ever since 1990ies?
@@martinan22Majority of research, development and manufacturing done in Sweden. But of course, some work is done in unison with other companies as well. As it should be, since we are allies. But calling a product being exclusively from country x or y based on the parent company origin is a stupid take. I think you may be intelligent enough to understand this. If not, best wishes to you.
@@ow2347 You cant sell something to foreigners and then pretend it is still yours. Sure, you can be a globalist, but then "sweden" doesn't have any meaning.
@@ow2347 And allies? Don't flatter yourselves. We and the Americans own everything in your silly little "country". We own your schools, we own your industries, we own your defence industry, we own mines, we own your harbours, we own your railroad companies, we own your housing debt. And soon we are going to have our own soldiers in our own bases in your "country". That we have you build some stuff for us doesn't mean anything, just be a good worker and do what your are told.
Allies! Haha! That's cute! Who do you people think you are? Learn your place.
Mjölner AKA the poor Swedes AMOS.
Still CV90 is one of the best platform and it´s tracked, easier to keep up with tanks.
AMOS was developed by Sweden and Finland
@@Sam_Guevenne Yup, well pointed out!
Give it to ukraine
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It's a joke that machine
ЗСУ би такі
ахахахахахаахах миномёт за 10 лямов
Send to Ukraine!
Patria platform is better
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sweden last battle 2 Battles were - Midtskog (August 5, 1814) and Battle of Kjölbergs bro (August 14, 1814).
So?