I replaced 4 Trane condenser fan motors this week on units less than 10 years old.. I take the whole top bracket off and lay it upside down. It's much easier than the way you did it. Just thought I'd share some of my 42 years experience
Worked on one of those last spring, 2 stage , kicked my butt until a friend clued me in . Not bad machines once you know how they operate. Customer sings it’s praises.
Nice work. I like the idea of just taking out the center and right screws on the shroud you can lift it up enough to get the whip in the electrical, easier than taking the 4 divider piece off.
Not sure why my comment is deleted, its usually just the GN01 ECM module that goes bad. Can be detached from motor and replaced without buying a new motor.
@@TedCookHVAC love our Trane units have an xr13 and XL16i. I like the xr13 better because it's never had an issue except for replacing a capacitor in nearly fifteen years of service. The XL16i has had a fan motor replaced and I've had to replace the ECM on the fan motor twice (finding used ecms online). Just about every 5 years the motor stops working (not a fault of trane - this is probably something that happens on all ECM motor units). I wish installers would tell people upfront how much more hassle a dual stage system will be in the long run. Maybe my comment was deleted because I said where I found the used ECM online? The most recent ECM lasted just a hair under 5 years. I was able to replace it with another used one for $100. It appears you can only buy the entire motor assembly new not just the controller.
Nice to see that a fan motor was required to be replaced. Some clown replaced mine with a unit that required a 7 point 5 run capacitor versus the five mf original. Ran at a severely compromised state until it wouldn't, ten years later at least. Probably cost me a few hundred in power bill's and shortened the Life of of the condenser fan motor considerably.
I’ve never replaced a fan motor on one of these Trane condensers with the top cover. Cool stuff! Also those top covers are like $500 what in the world..
Ted you ever see the welds on that X-bracket snap from the fan blade being warped. I went to a service call this week where two of the L- brackets snapped off and the head broke off one of the screws. There was only one screw left holding the motor. I do like those XLi units because they keep all the pine straw and dirt out of the bottom of the condensing unit
Ted you ever see the welds on that x-bracket snap from the blade being warped? I went to a service call on a XL14i this week where 2 of the L-brackets snapped and one of the screw heads broke off just leaving the threads in the motor. There was only one screw left holding the motor. I do like the XLi design because it keeps all the dirt and pine straw out of the bottom of the condensing unit.
In 1-2023 that motor shows a price of $701.00 on line, plus of course the service labor to install. I’m sorry but the payback in electric savings does not outweigh replacing motors that costly and in this instance, apparently short lived. They can keep their ECMs I’ll take a standard PSC any day.
I'm thinking about converting the fan in mine to a PSC. Replaced the fan control module on the motor twice already. Motor is fine, it's the control unit that goes bad.
I've replaced the ECM on the motor with used ones multiple times without having to spend $700 on a new motor. It's about $100 for a used ECM. Some ECMs will spend the fan in the wrong direction so you have to splice the wires and switch them coming out of the fan before you plug into the ECM. It's pretty much trial and error but better than spending $700 on a motor every few years.
What an unprofessional job. You didn't put a universal motor, didn't zip tie the wires and cap to the top grill, didn't leave out most of the screws.. You didn't even put the blade on backwards... That's how the "Pros" at Dilling do it in my town..
Could be a multitude of things, surges, defect that made it fail prematurely, possible overheated before from short cycles. Should they fail this quick? No. Do they? Yes. Just like all things mechanically and electrically they fluctuate in usage and power. Sometimes “it just does”.
Hey real time includes travel time, time to troubleshoot, time to order things, time to go back, time to pick up sometimes, time to do it, even time keeping thing in stock. We should charge for all of that Custmers dont understand that
Right? I have a whole rant on why these ECM motors are _bad economy._ Extremely costly & super short lifespan, that doesn't get close to being covered by the energy savings gained before it dies *(before* labor even). It's economy works out to; like if a plain LED bulb was $40. Where conventional motors were comparatively like an $6 CFL bulb, (but with multiple times the lifespan). The reason they fail, is the electronics inside the motor housing burn out (the windings are fine).
I replaced 4 Trane condenser fan motors this week on units less than 10 years old.. I take the whole top bracket off and lay it upside down. It's much easier than the way you did it. Just thought I'd share some of my 42 years experience
Not only is your work amazing but you as a instructor and businessman Mr. Cook!
Thanks for posting great content. I really respect all the HVAC professionals that make our lives so much more livable.
Take care.
Worked on one of those last spring, 2 stage , kicked my butt until a friend clued me in . Not bad machines once you know how they operate. Customer sings it’s praises.
Nice work. I like the idea of just taking out the center and right screws on the shroud you can lift it up enough to get the whip in the electrical, easier than taking the 4 divider piece off.
Not sure why my comment is deleted, its usually just the GN01 ECM module that goes bad. Can be detached from motor and replaced without buying a new motor.
Usually, I only delete comments that have foul language ….. or derogatory remarks about Trane.
@@TedCookHVAC love our Trane units have an xr13 and XL16i. I like the xr13 better because it's never had an issue except for replacing a capacitor in nearly fifteen years of service. The XL16i has had a fan motor replaced and I've had to replace the ECM on the fan motor twice (finding used ecms online). Just about every 5 years the motor stops working (not a fault of trane - this is probably something that happens on all ECM motor units). I wish installers would tell people upfront how much more hassle a dual stage system will be in the long run. Maybe my comment was deleted because I said where I found the used ECM online? The most recent ECM lasted just a hair under 5 years. I was able to replace it with another used one for $100. It appears you can only buy the entire motor assembly new not just the controller.
Nice to see that a fan motor was required to be replaced. Some clown replaced mine with a unit that required a 7 point 5 run capacitor versus the five mf original.
Ran at a severely compromised state until it wouldn't, ten years later at least. Probably cost me a few hundred in power bill's and shortened the Life of of the condenser fan motor considerably.
damn 5 yrs old and the fan motor is bad already? i thought nothing stops a trane
I replaced 4 just this week that was less than 10 years old. No warranty for some reason. Probably didn't know that they were supposed to register it.
The 1st of a new video series.... Twenty Minutes with Ted 😎👍
I love how it throws the leaf at the camera 16:31
I have this particular Trane unit. What motor did you use to replace the old one with?
Ok, interesting , non challenging ,slightly boring , successfully completed , I loved it !
I’ve never replaced a fan motor on one of these Trane condensers with the top cover. Cool stuff! Also those top covers are like $500 what in the world..
I replaced 4 this week..
And, a good hailstorm knock a few parts out of the sides of the covers.
The undulating maw at the end wanted to devour my soul
Good process...too bad the original motor failed so soon.
Cowboy is here to save this damsel in destress !
I am curious as to why Trane uses a two-blade fan. I wonder if it has to do with causing less turbulence and noise?
I got one of these tomorrow 😮💨
Ted you ever see the welds on that X-bracket snap from the fan blade being warped. I went to a service call this week where two of the L- brackets snapped off and the head broke off one of the screws. There was only one screw left holding the motor. I do like those XLi units because they keep all the pine straw and dirt out of the bottom of the condensing unit
Ted you ever see the welds on that x-bracket snap from the blade being warped? I went to a service call on a XL14i this week where 2 of the L-brackets snapped and one of the screw heads broke off just leaving the threads in the motor. There was only one screw left holding the motor. I do like the XLi design because it keeps all the dirt and pine straw out of the bottom of the condensing unit.
I've seen those big brackets broken on several units
Real time Ted repairs a stopped Trane.
What type of screws did you use to mount the new fan?
Very nice. Work smarter not harder.
Thanks for the video 4 Ton 16 Seer
In 1-2023 that motor shows a price of $701.00 on line, plus of course the service labor to install. I’m sorry but the payback in electric savings does not outweigh replacing motors that costly and in this instance, apparently short lived. They can keep their ECMs I’ll take a standard PSC any day.
I'm thinking about converting the fan in mine to a PSC. Replaced the fan control module on the motor twice already. Motor is fine, it's the control unit that goes bad.
I've replaced the ECM on the motor with used ones multiple times without having to spend $700 on a new motor. It's about $100 for a used ECM. Some ECMs will spend the fan in the wrong direction so you have to splice the wires and switch them coming out of the fan before you plug into the ECM. It's pretty much trial and error but better than spending $700 on a motor every few years.
Great job Ted. 🍺🍺
not quite as easy as the other brands I've watched you do
Thanks for posting. 👍
What an unprofessional job. You didn't put a universal motor, didn't zip tie the wires and cap to the top grill, didn't leave out most of the screws.. You didn't even put the blade on backwards... That's how the "Pros" at Dilling do it in my town..
What was the decision behind using a non OEM Trane motor for the replacement? Great video is always!
it is an oem part ....
Trane cost is higher.
Seems like this is premature. The motor should not of failed already. My 17 year old Lennox fan motor is still going. Comments?
Could be a multitude of things, surges, defect that made it fail prematurely, possible overheated before from short cycles. Should they fail this quick? No. Do they? Yes. Just like all things mechanically and electrically they fluctuate in usage and power. Sometimes “it just does”.
i pray that was in warranty because those are expensive.
Nice job and video
Excellent job
Hey real time includes travel time, time to troubleshoot, time to order things, time to go back, time to pick up sometimes, time to do it, even time keeping thing in stock. We should charge for all of that
Custmers dont understand that
Just curious, was that under warranty?
Covered under warranty?
Nice work
Any Idea why the motor failed ?
Trane.
Never seen anyone Change it in place
Nice
It was probably the Lennox Stink coming off that unit sitting so close by that made the motor go bad.
Heck yea !
2 years old ??? Motor fails prematurely
Right? I have a whole rant on why these ECM motors are _bad economy._
Extremely costly & super short lifespan, that doesn't get close to being covered by the energy savings gained before it dies *(before* labor even). It's economy works out to; like if a plain LED bulb was $40. Where conventional motors were comparatively like an $6 CFL bulb, (but with multiple times the lifespan).
The reason they fail, is the electronics inside the motor housing burn out (the windings are fine).
At 4:55, gangsta Ted.
Time for some wd40 on the chuck bit
#268 thumbs uP
those suck to do up north
one hour old and no views yet, yeehaw =p
or no comment rather ;)
And you didn't show any of the wiring at all.
This is not the correct way to change a fan motor it’s the lazy way lol
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