The DUMBEST TICKETING CONTROVERSY in Jacksonville Jaguars HISTORY | Buccaneers @ Jaguars (1998)
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The letter of the law and the spirit of the law can often be two different things. And perhaps there is no better example of that than this 1998 NFL week 11 game between the Jacksonville Jaguars and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where a fan was arrested outside of Alltel Stadium for selling his ticket for three cents above what Jacksonville law allowed. This is the story behind the game between the 1998 Jaguars and 1998 Buccaneers, and what has to be the dumbest ticketing controversy in Jags history
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Members of the 1998 Jaguars:
Mike Hollis
Bryan Barker
Mark Brunell
Jamie Martin
Jonathan Quinn
Donovin Darius
Aaron Beasley
Tavian Banks
Cordell Taylor
Chris Howard
Kevin Devine
Deon Figures
Fred Taylor
Tawambi Settles
Daimon Shelton
Mike Logan
James Stewart
Zack Crockett
Chris Hudson
Blaine McElmurry
Dave Thomas
George Jones
Travis Davis
Erik Storz
Kevin Hardy
Brant Boyer
Eddie Mason
James Hamilton
Tom McManus
Jeff Lageman
Reggie Lowe
Jeff Kopp
Bryan Schwartz
Ben Coleman
John Jurkovic
Quentin Neujahr
John Wade
Jeff Novak
Tony Boselli
Leon Searcy
Brian DeMarco
Lamanzer Williams
Eric Curry
Rich Tylski
Todd Fordham
Will Moore
Jimmy Smith
Pete Mitchell
Reggie Barlow
Rich Griffith
Alvis Whitted
Keenan McCardell
Damon Jones
Troy Sadowski
Tony Brackens
Seth Payne
Jose White
Kelvin Pritchett
Bryce Paup
Fernando Smith
Renaldo Wynn
Jabbar Threats
Joel Smeenge
Tom Coughlin (head coach)
Members of the 1998 Buccaneers (1998 Bucs):
Steve Walsh
Michael Husted
Tommy Barnhardt
Trent Dilfer
Ronde Barber
Donnie Abraham
Charles Mincy
Tony Bouie
Damien Robinson
Brian Kelly
Anthony Parker
Warrick Dunn
Shevin Smith
Floyd Young
Eric Vance
Jerry Ellison
Mike Alstott
Lorenzo Neal
John Lynch
Jeff Gooch
Alshermond Singleton
Greg Bellisari
Shelton Quarles
Mitch Palmer
Derrick Brooks
Hardy Nickerson
Don Davis
Jamie Duncan
Tony Mayberry
Jorge Diaz
Kevin Dogins
Pete Pierson
Jason Odom
Jerry Wunsch
Chidi Ahanotu
Frank Middleton
Paul Gruber
Todd Washington
Brad Culpepper
Marcus Jones
John Davis
Jacquez Green
Patrick Hape
Dave Moore
Robb Thomas
Reidel Anthony
Karl Williams
Bert Emanuel
Brice Hunter
Jason Maniecki
Regan Upshaw
Steve White
Tyoka Jackson
James Cannida
Warren Sapp
Tony Dungy (head coach)
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worst part is that the ticket price even seems designed to set up for this issue.
It clearly was. No reason you'd set the ticket price at $XX.72 if you weren't trying to take advantage of the law.
That statement by the lawyer was absolute gold. Most lawyers would have used a hammer; that man used a stiletto.
BTB, I just got my 39.6 shirt for my birthday today! Birthdays are much better than if you spike the ball into the ground on every single play!
Florida man arrested for practicing common sense because, well, Florida
Florida man, Florida man
Florida man hates America, man.
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Al Powell has had a hell of a career though. From shooting a 13 yr old to nakotomi plaza, to busting scalpers.
Literally the first thing that came to my mind!!!
@@leogetz3570 'i stole some $$$. nothing big. it was from the mob'. leo getz things done.
@@stevenbauer4799 about a half a Billion....
Welcome to the party, PAL!
@@leogetz3570'you stole a half a billion from the mob leo?' 'they got plenty of $$$'.
To be fair 3 cents in 1998. Is like 15 cents today. At least in the gasoline economy.
Poorly considered and/or badly worded laws are a huge problem. A culture in which government agents can entrap innocent people and then decide whether to punish them is deeply toxic. The concept of "the spirit of the law" is more often used to justify things that legislators could not legitimately codify.
I love the subtle Simpsons reference in the beginning 😀
Yes that made me happy
You know those two heard a lot of smack from their colleagues on the force.
This is the epitome of "Barney Fife Syndrome", where cops are so insistent on carrying out the "letter of the law" simply for power tripping. Well done, JG9. #SMH
Powell really moved up in the world.
Whereas John McClane, OTOH........
Even though there were a lot of fans here in Tampa for these clubs' 1st meeting in '95, it didn't sell out in time for WFLA-TV to air it for its Tampa Bay audience.
Well now the Jaguars have to pay people to take their tickets! Lol 😂😆
As a capitalist, I never understood scalping laws. If it's a hot ticket, I am WILLING to pay whatever I can to get it. I'm guessing it's just the government wanting their cut of your profit. That's why it's all legal now with sites like EBAY, where everything goes to the highest bidder so your profits can be tracked
It's not about the money. Before StubHub and the like was a face to face transaction outside the stadium. Security doesn't want people not attending the event at the stadium. It's an anti loitering law. There's no government conspiracy. It's just security getting rid of a hassle.
I’m guessing Key and Powell weren’t a team for much longer.
Key hooked up with someone with more a-Peele much later
@@donaldpaluga lmao
The ticket scalper came all the way up from Largo to Jacksonville to attempt sell a ticket for 28 cents more? That makes this story even more dumb because Largo is (without traffic, of course) a little over 4 hours away from Jacksonville. Crazy.
If he had asked for $34.97 a normal person, not a cop, would have given him $35.00 and said keep the change.
But this was stupid.
Well THIS is NOT a SURPRISE CONSIDERING that the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers COMBINED are WORSE than a 39.6 and AREN'T EVEN WORTH 3 cents. They would BOTH be WAY BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!!
I've never understood why ticket scalping was illegal or even frowned upon in the first place.
It you buy a ticket, you should have the right to go the game, sell it, set it on fire or whatever you want.
Welcome to the People's Republic of America.
It's not about the tickets, it's basically an anti loitering law. They don't want people without tickets just hanging around doing what people who hang out outside stadiums without tickets do.
I watched the streams so i was very excited for this video and to see the “stupidest thing you’ve ever seen” After seeing it I can confirm that you were 100% right, this is the stupidest thing ever
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I don't care what anyone says, the Creamsicle uniforms were better than the newer ones!
It's my hill to die on.
Also wish New England would go back to Pat the Patriot uniforms.
Agreed on both
Jacksonville went from a strong run franchise to a totally joke in the NFL
That lawyer was right it was ridiculous
As a former Jacksonville resident, I was not surprised by this. Yet, I was still beating the palm against my forehead. It was like I was back in that city of stupid.
You could easily see where this was going, but that doesn't make it any less stupid or infuriating.
I respectfully disagree. The Jets were a good team too. Jacksonville went 4-3 the rest of the season and had to settle for the 3 seed. The Jets got the 2 seed and easily beat the Jags in the playoffs. I do acknowledge the Jags had a great stretch from 1996 to 1999. Great act of philanthropy by the gentleman who was arrested
This was at the time of the game. By the time the season ended, the Jets were the second best team in the AFC
39.5K subs. Is there a way to find an exact number so we could count down to the magic number of 39.6K? (39,600?) This way we could all celebrate by doing nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play.
39,520 right now. When we get to 39.6, I’ll announce it for sure. Maybe even release some merch
This is the most pennies have mattered in the last 50 years
What's the likelihood either officer had three cents... None! ;-)
And I thought I had a bad case with the law. I was once sued over a bill that had been paid but still got stuck with over $100 in court costs? I was injured on my job and want to the ER. Since this was in 92 my bill was $97. I give it to my boss who didn't pay it for almost a year. After getting a Court summons I called him and he told me he had paid. I called the court house and they confirmed it had been paid, so I did nothing more. Almost a year later I got another summons that I owed over $100. I called and they told me even though it was paid in full, I was responsible for court costs plus a year's worth of interest and late fees.
Amazing how jacked up the law can get.
Any child that is a fan of the Jaguars is under privileged!!
Lmao Key and Powell
A three cent difference? That’s worse than if you did nothing but spike the ball on every play.
Hte that fck phrs
I love how people are bashing and trashing Florida when 1.) This was strictly a Jacksonville thing and 2.) Florida right now is one of the VERY few places worldwide actually fighting against global tyranny (and getting bashed and trashed for that too).
Hold on, the officers name was Al Powell?
His car is getting turned into Swiss cheese! And he needs backup assistance now!
I think everyone involved in this story was justified in their actions.
Oh my gosh...oh my gosh...I cannot believe what I just listened too. This is beyond the most unreal story you have ever reported on. Great job telling this story but this gores beyond all logic in every way. $34.72 to $35.00.....arrested for 3 pennies over Jacksonville law, just unreal. If only he had asked for $34.97. Definitely a "3 Penny Opera" :)
The lines forms on the right, babe, NOW THAT MACKEY'S BACK IN TOWN!!!!!!!
I just realized I was screaming at the screen at that brutal Dilfer INT like it was 1998 all over again!
Never know when the old Bucs PTSD will flare up!!
At least you guys have won 2 superbowls since then, pretty impressive considering Tampa was the epitome of 'poverty franchise' before the new millennium.
GET TO THE FUCKING POINT!
When I was a kid. You could get two tootsie roll pops for three cents. And you could get three baseball cards and three pieces of gum for three cents. Life was so much simpler back then.
Great quote by the lawyer. Better move by Dodd. Class act by him especially with all the factors going into it.
This is so stupid! How can ticket scalping be illegal? If two consenting parties, adults of course, decide to mutually engage in a transaction that they both agree is worth it for both sides despite what the original face value of the ticket is, how is that illegal or an arrestable offense?
If the person selling the tickets is legally in possession of those tickets and decides that he would now prefer to resell his tickets because the game is sold out and scarcity and “demand” for these tickets has caused the secondary market value to skyrocket, why can’t he resell his tickets for any price that he chooses as long as he and the potential buyer are in mutual agreement? The team already made their money for selling the tickets at the face value they wanted. Who are the cops or the team or anyone to say that someone can’t resell anything they’ve ever purchased as long as it’s a transaction between two concerting adults and if they both agree on price for item, it’s no one else’s business to get in the middle of that. Such bullshit!!! So much for freedom in America. That’s just flat out tyranny!!! Oh well, at least the kids got some tickets for another game sometime in the future.
First of all, if you're that outraged over ticket scalping I'm not sure I want to see your rant about masks and vaccine passports and cancel culture 😲 Secondly, given that everybody knows scalping is illegal, anybody who actually does it right out in the open in front of the stadium on game day kinda deserves to be arrested. It's like people don't realize this sort of thing can be done behind closed doors, in a more private location.
@@DolFan316 still didn’t answer my question as to what makes it illegal or why is it illegal. But I appreciate you taking the time to respond anyways.
@@D0ugh.B0y For a long time it was a free trade argument by the stadium owners and team owners. Teams have to lock in ticket prices for the whole year. Scalpers can set the prices game by game depending on supply and demand. The teams argument was, well, if scalpers can do that why can't we? By forcing teams to lock in prices for the season the NFL is restricting trade and creating an unfair market. The old timey workaround was to sell a jersey or whatever and offer the tickets as a "free gift".
@@ahoneyman thank you for a well expressed educated answer unlike from others. That makes a lot of sense. I thought the same thing about teams not adjusting the prices per game after I wrote this but I assumed that possibly it was because most tickets would’ve been a part of a “season ticket” package and you don’t always know which games will be great match ups. Well, some you would up front but it changes as the season goes on which I figure a flat price up front guarantees the teams a certain amount of revenue and on the back end just let the scalpers make money. As it is, a lot of those scalppers like anyone else who lives in the area, has money stolen from them by way of taxes for stadium subsidies. So you might as well let them make some of their money back to since a lot of them don’t even go to games. But yeah, thanks for the well thought out answer. I appreciate it.
Welcome to the party pal
Oh no, only 3 cents
14:05 couldn't be more true
I love how in a "free society," we don't have the right to contract freely among consenting individuals.