Broadway Musical Conspiracy Theories (Hamilton, Wicked and more)
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- I am a HUGE fan of conspiracy theories, and of course musical theatre, so for today's video I'm mixing the two together...
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Shane Dawson looks different.. And he's talking about musicals... oh wait it's caitie!
it me!!!!
@@TheCaitieDiaries I loooooove this vid!! I wish I had noticed your channel sooner!!
Angelica finally found a relative😂
*you just said macbeth*
oh no
So did you 😂😂😂
Macbe-ow! Nothing major, just a lamp trying to kill me
@@lucyh5122 crap i'm gonna die
A Fangirl 😂💕
Ahhhhh I love this I'm a huge musical fan and have the funniest Hamilton story
I was listening to Hamilton in my history class and my history teacher asked what I was listening to I told her the truth and said Hamilton, she then asked what that had to do with history and I responded "Alexander Hamilton one of the founders of America's story a musical of his story was created by Lin Manuel Miranda and so yes it is history." She walked off and didn't speak to me for the rest of the lesson.
@Angelica Hamilton Angelica is that you?
I wouldn't worry too much about that...teachers have a unique sense of pride & part of that is if you know more than them about, well, anything & expose this within the classroom, their very deep-seated & well hidden ego gets cut. We all have it, some more than others, but teachers especially. Since the media have always been there to critique any fault, mistake or drawback they have, teachers in general can be guarded & secretive as media exposure can get them sacked. There's a reason why 9 out of 10 teachers are women & that's bc most male staff are simply regarded as pedos. I'm not trying to creep you out, I'm just trying to give you the underlying truth on this indefinite problem. I think that if a better solution can't be found in having an even number of male staff to be placed within all education, problems will continue inside & outside schools & an indefinite number of disruptions will continue to grow within society itself.
I once heard the theory that Hamilton is actually more about Eliza (or rather her legacy/making her more visible in American history) than Alexander, because after their marriage "Hamilton" is also Eliza's last name. Also in the last scene she turns to the audience taking a deep sigh (or her last breath) as if she was realizing how well she did in telling her husband's story.
I have thought of this before because Eliza sings a lot of songs. She also sang the very last song, Who Lives Who Dies Who Tells Your Story. It showed how she worked so hard to keep Hamilton's legacy alive, even more than her own. Also, I think part of why Hamilton's legacy lived on was because of Eliza
Heathers!
So there’s this theory that Janis from Mean Girls is Veronica and JD’s kid. The timelines would match up well, and it would explain why Janis looks and sounds so much like Veronica, as Barrett Wilbert Weed plays them both. They also seem to have similar personalities.
yesssss!
I love that! That's brill
I love that idea !
Boi JD died
Then again, what if in dead girl walking, Veronica got pregnant?
i was gonna discredit this but then i realised how well the timelines fit bc if veronica is 17 and gets pregnant and has janis in 1990 then janis would be about the right age in the right year yeah!
The Macbeth thing should be fine, because the curse is saying the name of the play, but referring to the character is fine. He ever says, "another Scottish tragedy without my having to name the play".
But maybe just saying the word counts...
@@michaelaj5977 nope. the curse only works if you say the name of the play, not the name of the character.
Jodie Plews I think it’s just an Easter egg, not ment to be fine into to deeply ya know?
@@trinityjay8893 It applies for both. That's why people call him the Scottish King.
My friend has a theory that Angelica killed Hamilton because in Take a Break, Angelica says "My dearest Alexander you must get through to Jefferson, sit down with him and compromise, won't stop till you agree," and that angered Aaron Burr, and they had a duel.
omg
@@TheCaitieDiaries Yeah, it may sound crazy but it makes sense. My friend is really smart. Her name is evie kinkead and she is a BIG FAN!
So Angelica was Burr in disguise lol NICE
ANGELICAS MY GURL SHE WOULD NEVER KILL ANYONE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. thats like saying epoinine is marious's murderer but he never died!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woah
"In Wicked, we never learn enough about the Wicked Witch Of The East"
Nessarose: *Am I a joke to you?*
Okay, so I don't have one about musical theater, but maybe close enough: Frozen. Spoilers:
I have a theory that the Anna that Elsa brought 'back' to life at the end of the movie isn't the original Anna. Elsa has been shown to be able to create consciousness out of nothing before, ie olaf and the likes. And well, you can't fix people who froze to death... billions of cells stabbed by ice crystals, c'mon. So Elsa created an Anna that best fits her memory of her, and nobody else can tell the difference. Not even Elsa, or the new Anna for that matter. But the Anna that really was before, is gone.
I LOVE THIS
Well, hey, Frozen’s a musical now.
Sad, BUT TOTALLY POSSIBLE
Well... that was dark
That’s a really depressing thought. But I can’t deny that it is plausible.
Please do Heathers conspiracy theories! I feel like there is so much in that show to theorize about!
I know this was 2 years ago but I was hoping to find some Heathers theories specifically 😅
You need to collab with Katherine Steele
THE DREAM TBH
I ❤️ that idea!!!!
Omg please
@@TheCaitieDiaries My friend and I have uncovered a bunch of hamilton theories regarding Phillip and the number 7 (idek why lol) and I can't remember the rest but here's part of it~
Phillip has 7 siblings
He plays piano with his mom (eliza) and always changes the melody on 7
He is included in at least 7 songs (I haven't seen the proshot but I know that he's onstage during the Reynolds pamphlet, and the rest are songs that he is singing in, or being sung about (dear theo, that would be enough)
He gets shot on the number 7
And if you listen hard during stay alive reprise, you can hear an instrument mimicking his heartbeat. And to make it even more heartbreaking, his heartbeat stops when eliza reaches the number 7.
Also, in the beginning, during My Shot, Alexander says, "in my sleep, seven feet ahead of me"..
What's with all of the sevens???
I'll edit when I remember the rest lol
And I agree, you should definitely collab with Kat Steele!!!!!!
This is not mine but I also read a theory about Hamilton that said Phillip pretty much set his death in stone because he was whistling in a theater during "Blow us all away" 0_o
There is a theory that Veronica die at the end of Heathers the theory goes that the reason she’s so messed up at the end after JD explodes is because she did die with JD is your ghost coming back trying to make everyone beautiful which is why heather duke says you look like hell and she said I just got back because she just did come back from hell to tell them how to live their lives better that’s the theory
I had a theory at one point that John and Alexander had just broke up or something dramatic like that when Alex met Eliza, since Lams is pretty much canon, confirmed by many letters, and Lin himself lol.
what if “you’ll be impressed by my forest expertise” because he’s telling Connor which trees are the best to fall and die from.
and if i’m waving through a window Connors ghost is waving to Even
Conspiracy theory for Hamilton: Peggy is jealous that Angelica and Eliza fall in love with Hamilton so she comes back as Maria Reynolds
Dear Even Hanson theory. Conner is actually..
Dead.
NO?!
WOAH!!!!😱😱😱
Oh my gosh! No!
I'd like to hear your evidence! It's really annoying that people like you write theories with absolutely NOTHING to back them up.
Me Watching Hamilton: *Wait..Didn’t Laurens- WAIT..THAT’S PHILLIP!?*
My friend and I always say that Lin is Alexander Hamilton reincarnated lol
I CAME AS SOON AS I HEARD
AlL tHe WaY fRoM lOnDeN???
DEMN
Stella DeAngelis DAAAAAAAMN
Angelicaaaaaaaa
@@gachamadeline7973 yes? 🤣
Finally someone who understands what i'm trying to do...
So...Willy Wonka is Elphaba's brother?
Huh.
The first time I heard “Take a Break,” when Hamilton said McBeth I screamed,”NO!”
Here’s a Oz theory (it’s not mine)
So I have recently discovered the book series “Dorothy Must Die” (it’s amazing and you should totally read them) and in one of the prequels tells us that the Wizard never left Oz and gets amnesia and no longer remembers who he is and grows into this huge character in the series.
Again not mine, but I love this series and it lets us know so my more about these characters
Yeah I’ve read that whole book series and LOVE it so definitely like this theory a lot! Xx
I love those books lol
I DEMAND MORE
No, but seriusly, more, please. ❤
I love the theory about Dorothy being the Wicked Witch of the East!
Did you know it? Red shoes are actually occult symbols so it goes way farther than just a musical theory.
the wicked witch of the East is Elphaba’s sister Nessa ;)
You’ll get to 10K just you wait.
Jim Von Schmittou was that a Hamilton reference?
Viola Animates yes
Jim Von Schmittou yey
My friend actually told me about the Macbeth thing about a year ago.
How long have you known?!
A year or so...
Caitie Dawson 😂
Why would Alexander Hamilton write the song “say no to this” ?
Because maybe he’s reflected on his life and realised that he should have said no!
None of these are facts, or necessarily true at all, they’re just fun theories I liked talking about!
Lin actually tweeted about the second one. You’re allowed to say the character’s name, but not the name of show.
shane dawson *who?*
Lol
HAHAHAHAHA
hahaha
Be more chill - It`s Jermy there is knocking on the door under Michael in the bathroom
Can you find one theory for The Phantom Of The Opera???
Please make Hamilton in real life part 8 my suggestion is
Teacher goes on about math
Student sleeping
Student wakes up and asks friend “what’d I miss” ps I love you caitie
I was actually sick and when I got back to school I couldn't stop shouting WHAT DID I MISS
The thing about the Macbeth one is that you can say the name Macbeth, otherwise it's impossible to actually perform the show, but you can't mention it when you're talking about the play itself, so if you think about it, Lin-Manuel was being very clever when he was talking about "another Scottish tragedy without my having to name the play". He was making sure not to say the name of it, while being allowed to name the character.
So me and my friend think that in Les miserables Eponine and Enjorlra's were secretly dating and when he ( spoiler)
Dies said Eponine quietly so no one heard him. It's pretty far fetched and probably not true but we like to think this and it makes us feel better about Eponine being lonely if we think it was all an act
IF YOU SAY THE NAME OF THE PLAY ITS BAD LUCK
BUT THE NAME OF THE CHARACTER IT'S FINE
The issue with the Hamilton living through 47 songs and dying at 47 is that In the book by Ron Chernow is says that Hamilton was actually 49 when he died, and was lying about his age. Lin was going off the biography, and so probably wasn’t intentional. Plus he is died by the final number, so it doesn’t really work anyway.
It’s interesting , but probably untrue
Do book of Mormon and Les Mis therios!
Love ur pfp
Read the book of Wicked. Spoiler: Elphaba and Fiyero are actually both dead. So the theory is true
OMG I TWEETED ABOUT THE MACBETH THING LITERALLY YESTERDAY OMG
You should do some BMC and DEH theories!
Yesssss
I have a bmc theory
1:26 That’s why I never sing his part in that song...
The Wicked thing about them dying is probably right and even though it’s sad I love it. Also the Witch of the West thing sounds cool!
Please do more of these they're amazing!
I’d love to do more! So glad you liked it! Xx
I have a Wicked and How the Grinch Stole Christmas crossover theory. Notice how Elphie and Grinch are the only ones from these stories that are green, and it's labeled as weird? Elphie became green when the Wizard fed her mom green elixir. My thought is, since there are sentient animals in Oz, maybe the Wizard had an affair with a bear or something and they had Grinch? Maybe the Wizard regretted it and sent him to Whoville? And maybe that's why he wants to eradicate sentient animals in 'Wicked'? That would make Elphie and Grinch siblings.
Honestly i feel like it would make more sense if lin manuel Miranda was Eliza reincarnated like literary the last song is about how Eliza went on to tell Alexander's story and keep his legacy alive and that's exactly what the musical does
Omg she needs to do more of these. I was actually mind blown the entire video. Lin Manuel= Alexander Hamilton????
This is fascinating - I always wondered where the red brick road went to!
Also, the channel The Theorizer made a theory that Glinda is the true villain (yes I know!) but go watch it it’s very good and maybe real...
Definitely going to check that out!
ok before my first play some kid backstage (while the audience was in the theater!) shouted “M*cb*th” three times and nothing happened but I still was super scared and everyone hated that kid after that.
Conspiracy. Laurens impregnated Eliza. If you disagree, then explain why Phillip looks like Laurens.
Edit: I’m really late.
Eliza starts the orphanage that Annie is in
Omg your 5 year anniversary is on MY BIRTHDAY LOL
This is great!!! Come on people, let’s get Catie to 10k
That moment when Hamilton is a true story
That thumbnail is a mood 😂
Eliza would probably write a play about Hamilton.
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My friend and I have uncovered a bunch of hamilton theories regarding Phillip and the number 7 (idek why lol) and I can't remember the rest but here's part of it~
Phillip has 7 siblings
He plays piano with his mom (eliza) and always changes the melody on 7
He is included in at least 7 songs (I haven't seen the proshot but I know that he's onstage during the Reynolds pamphlet, and the rest are songs that he is singing in, or being sung about (dear theo, that would be enough)
He gets shot on the number 7
And if you listen hard during stay alive reprise, you can hear an instrument mimicking his heartbeat. And to make it even more heartbreaking, his heartbeat stops when eliza reaches the number 7.
Also, in the beginning, during My Shot, Alexander says, "in my sleep, seven feet ahead of me"..
What's with all of the sevens???
I'll edit when I remember the rest lol
The Spring Awakening Ilse conspiracy really blows my mind!
You:I want to use a hot glue gun friend:but what if we get bbbbuuuuuuuurrrrnnn-ed
You:what do you want for Xmas friend:guns and ships you: I’m getting nervous friend :I might need to stop listening to Hamilton but I can’t say no to this play Hamilton
I'm sending all of these videos to my sister trying to get her to subscribe to you because we're both big musical nerds and you honestly deserve way more subscribers 💖
My two favourite things combined!
Hey Catie I was wondering if you've heard of the musical Carrie? It's a really good musical and I think you'd like it. There's also a good one called Anastasia.
the thing about in hamilton where they say macbeth is kinda weird,
every theater kid, or any actor, know not to say macbeth on the stage, as it is rumored to bring bad luck and make the show a terrible production
with hamilton it was not the exact case,
they said macbeth almost for every single show,
and hamilton became SUPER popular, breaking the macbeth curse
maybe its not a curse, maybe its just a blessing in disguse. But thats just a theory, a musical theory!
Quick, bring Connie Spiracy back!
she returns
Slayed itttt, we need Heathers conspiracy theories please!!🙌🏻💕✨
Have you ever come up with a conspiracy theory that makes you really sad? My Anastasia one makes me sad. My theory is that the whole musical is actually her hallucinating on the streets. Probably because of starvation. My theory makes me sad.
1:34 in Blow us all Away philip is whistling in the theater which is also bad luck
Phillip also died young because in blow us all away Phillip whistles in a theatre
My new favorite RUclipsr! 🤩🤩🤩
Are there any for Les Miserables or Rent?? I would love to know if there were!!
In Hamilton, he refers to the Character, not the play, so it doesn't act as a curse. Its only if you say Macbeth in a theatre refering to the play itself
You: it’s getting really hot in here I think we might burn friend : you really need to stop listening to Hamilton
The thing with Elphaba and Fiyero sounds legit, except for the part where Elphaba says "I wish Glinda would know, that we're still alive." Which would be a strange thing to say if you're both dead.
So perhaps instead Elphaba found a magical way to transport them to an alternate universe. The Wizard is from such a place - which we're supposed to believe is our world I think - so we know at least two worlds exist. If Elphaba has found a way to travel between them, other than with The Wizard's balloon, they'd be safe there since no one in this other world can know they're wanted criminals in Oz if they don't even know Oz exist. But if Glinda would know that way to travel, or even know that Elphaba and Fiyero are in this other world without a way to travel to them, that information might slip, and other Ozians would try to reach them. So Glinda cannot know, and Fiyero and Elphaba can never come back to Oz, because if they did they wouldn't be safe anymore.
2:45 IT'S ACID
So I came up with a theory that’s about Hamilton but it’s more Historically based. So we know that Alex and Maria has an affair, but what if Maria had Alex’s child? This sounds crazy at first but hear me out, birth control was not invented til the 1950s, meaning that there was no possible way for Maria to not be pregnant, the one possible answer I could think of is that she is not able to be impregnated, but research says that she has had a daughter with James Reynolds. The reason we don’t know about this is because it might not have been mentioned or the evidence that there was a child could have been lost. And to further prove this theory Maria and James got divorced in January of 1793, the affair with Hamilton ended in December of 1782 and started in the summer/fall of 1781. If we do the math then Maria would be 9 months or 5 months into her pregnancy by then, she would have most likely found out about it by then and that was one of the reasons for her and James to get divorced. And that’s it.
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Okay so here’s a follow up theory
The Dear Evan Hansen theory.
I know this doesn’t happen but let’s pretend it does
Alright
So
Conspiracy theory about Dear Evan Hansen. Evan Hansen died (wow dark).
In Words Fail, Evan can’t find what to say because he’s in such a mess that he’s just given up. He might also be giving up with life, who knowsssssss
“And you want to believe it's true so you make it true.” Is a line in that song, let me take you back to Kindergarten Boyfriend from Heathers
A quote from that song is: “But I believe that any dream worth having is a dream that should not have to end, so I’ll build a dream that I can live in. And this time Im never waking up”
This quote is right before Martha is about to kill herself (but fails and I oop skskksks), and the line Evan is saying is about making something true, just like what Martha is saying. Another line in Words Fail is saying the same thing.
Another example is
“All I ever do is run
So how do I step in
Step into the sun?
Step into the sun”
Which might mean Evan is giving into his problems.
Stepping into the sun could kill you, and if the sun keeps burning Evan it will burn him to death. I’m not saying this as if Evan literally walked into the sun and killed him self, I’m saying it could be a metaphor for that.
In So big/so small, Evans mom is singing a ballad sadly. She says goodbye twice in context it most likely means saying goodbye to Evans dad, but if we dig deeper, what if she was saying goodbye to Evan after he killed him self.
She says how the house feels so big, if a husband leaves the only thing he’s really taking up is his side of the bed, or the couch, which really isn’t that much, but if Evan has died, she would be the only one in the house, and it would feel empty or small. She sings and remembers times when he was younger, like most do when loved ones pass, and in one line she says she feels small. Feeling small means feeling ashamed. She says earlier in the song she has missed a lot in Evans life, and that could make her feel small because she wasn’t there for Evan when he needed her, and now that he’s passed she can’t do that.
If we correspond this to the full show, where Evan is alive, he apologizes and people forgive him and stuff and he and Zoe have this sweet moment, blah blah happy ending stuff.
wELL THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK, what if this is all happening in Evans mind, like I read this theory that Sandy from Grease had died and all that stuff that happened was in her like dream state of death or something and that’s why everything was so happy and the car flew away, well what if that’s what happened to Evan, he got his happy ending he had wanted, when in reality these people might not have forgiven him.
And lastly, in the Finale, Evan is talking and saying it’s a better day, wHy? Because he’s finally got his happy ending, Evan though he’s dead and stuff.
This whole song could be a funeral song and stuff
“We let the world pass by for forever”
If your dead you don’t really do much other than
Be dead
So the world and everything will pass you by.
“Feels like we could go on for forever this way”
If you die I’m pretty sure that’s “for forever”
“All we see is light”
Another way of saying dying is going into the light, all we see is light could mean how Evan was “going into the light”
“We could be alright for forever this way”
Evan could be happier now he’s died and got his happy ending in his whole dream state thing.
The last line is
“All I see is sky for forever”
When you die you’re looking up I’m pretty sure you’re looking up so if he’s looking up he’s looking at the sky, or toward the sky and dying is for forever unless he has a past life thing or something.
Boom
How about the Spring Awakening one where Ilse is actually dead. She wears white and is the only character that doesn’t talk directly to anyone. The only person she really contacts is Moritz RIGHT BEFORE HE DIES! She’s the angel watching over everyone! At the end she wears green which symbolizes rebirth and she is in contact with people during the letter reading.
Does anyone ever Wonder who the wicked witch of the south is since there’s the which of the north, west, and east
So you’re telling me that Elphaba and Willy Wonka are half-siblings? Interesting...
The hamilton thing was inaccurate he died at 50 Eliza was 47 when hamilton died. The person who would really want Hamilton story to be told is Eliza.
im a hardcore fan of the wizard of oz books and that one about the characters of oz being representatives of people dorothy knows highkry annoys me
Shane Dawson and musicals YESSSS
All of the Wicked ones are disproven by the Wicked and Wizard of Oz books, lol. But I loved this!
Idk if it's just me but TUCK EVERLASTING! The man in the yellow suit (evil banana as I and granny like to call him) is Miles's grandson. If you listen to some of the Evil Banana's song lyrics you can see where I'm coming from.
My sister also has a theory that Evan from DEH is Jesse from TUCK EVERLASTING.
Now that I think about it, DEAR EVAN HANSEN could be linked to TUCK EVERLASTING in more ways than one....
This was Deeeeeeeeep.
Lin Manuel says in the one documentary that you can say the character Macbeth, but not as the name of the play. So, no, it wasn’t cause of Macbeth
Watching in April 2019 and you've hit your 10k goal! Congrats :) :)
Hiiiiiii love your vids
Thank you so much! Xx
I know I am late but what if because Peggy Schuyler wasn't recognized in the show and both her sisters where in love with Hamilton so what if Lin cast the same girl as Maria and Peggy so it would look like she tried to get revenge on her sisters
I really want heathers conspiracy theories 😄 btw my sister drew that picture of you on tiktok and gave it to me cuz i'm such a big fan of your channel! I'm gonna hang it on my wall ❤ I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!
7 year anniversary! Congrats Carrie!
Ahhh thank you!!!!
Sorry bout the typo btw, but YAY!
Here is a unrelated kinda comment of musical typos?
These are for DEH because I listen to it too much hahahaha
1. In sincerly me, evan says the only man that I love is my dad but he doesnt really know/like his dad because his parents are divorced
2. This one is kinda for the book but in for forever and the book, it says end of may or early June but they are still in school and early june is when school ends.
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I always thought the wicked witch of the east was Nessa?
5:34 "WONKA FORCES OOPALOOMPAS TO WEAR BLACK FACE" (*the real vid title should have been)
i love this so much
2:29 he did that so Alex wouldn’t be taken off of the ten dollar bill- and to educate kids
you need waaay more subscribers! 💕
I agree. Also, Peggy!!!!!!!! Yay you're back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!