jeungeun was their fav in the first half and jiyoon their least liked. we dont know how their fight will be going on so dont make too fast assumptions about them not having anything against jiyoon
well its likely that jungeun was their favorite in part 1 and they were trying to sabotage jiyoon. but they mightve saw knetz liked jiyoon and disliked jungeun, so they switched sides in part 2.
I think they used Jungeun as a pacemaker for Jiyoon. Honestly, attitude wise, Jiyoon doesn't have a good one. She's too competitive that she can get aggressive when she loses and she always wants the best part whether or not others may be better than her in that part. And she's so petty, she doesn't want to make up just because Jungeun didn't vote her, that's her reason for not talking to her 😂😂😂
For sarang i think they know that she could do it thats why they said its okay bec they were watching them while practise and during practise she sang the high note easily multiple times
Yes I am praying for my girlie sarang!! She did so well and this is literally her first mistake!! She has literally been my #1 since the first ep ❤ but also I really think that sarang deserved the second place as she did well in every performance (I’m very biased) but then again your point is valid because jungeun (mb if I misspelled) is very solid, I also think that sujung isn’t liked by the producer like their standards for her are insane. VOTE SARANG AND JIYOON ❤❤❤
@@IvyUwU56Girl sameee! Sarang has always been my favourite since day 1. She has TALENTS🤌 Unfortunately tho because of her nervousness, she couldn’t perform her best at the end part. I just wish she could be more confident in herself because man she is genuinely very talented and has amazing stage presence. She caught my eyes the most in the ‘Law’ performance. I wish she can be more confident and Ik she will slay. I wish her all the very best ❤
I’m upset for Yuju. That wasn’t really a main dancer part, there was not even a dance break. They should have divided the parts as center, main vocal, main dancer and main rapper. But no, they need to create drama with unfair line distribution.
tbh the Sujung thing looks like a complete set up, weird angles that are usually not there as if they placed cameras specifically for this, A LOT of cuts that do not fit together and even Juwon disappearing and Koko appearing in her place when Jiyoon entered the room like- idk for me it's a clear evil editing. Of course Sujung said what she said but the context of the laughing for example could perfectly be a complete different one. Anyways go vote for Juwon, Sujung and Jungeun they are so talented but so hated :(
I don't think so because they can't know beforehand what the Islanders are going to say. So it's impossible for them to set camera beforehand to shoot just this.. It's sujung who is foolish to say such things on camera.
@@IJ_Maria It wouldn't be the first time nor the last that Mnet makes a situation up by telling the girls what they should say. Take Girls planet as an example, Fu Yaning was hated since episode 1 because of what she said to Yujin only to later on be revealed that she actually was asked by the staff to say that to make up the drama that happened
I don't think it's fake, they clearly had a misunderstanding and it showed when in the latest episode jungeun went to a completely separate room to practice. glad they talked though! yeah mnet over hyped the heck out of it but the conflict was definitely real.
I really don't get the hype towards Mai. Clearly she is not as talented as other contestants (e.g. Yuju, sujung) but still got so much praise . I love her personality tho but isn't this show about talent ? Also I don't really like her exaggerated facial expressions.
this is exactly it. sure, she shows potential. but survival shows aren't about potential, they're about talent that contestants already have, so that argument makes no sense. it's unfair to the debut-ready contestants to be passed up for someone who could be great in the future.
Samee but I feel she's definitely gonna debut coz she's pretty. We hv seen in almost all kpop grps theres THAT 1 pretty member who gets popularity to the grp, eg. Wonyoung, Karina, wonhee, irene, Suzy, tzuyu These ppl are insanely pretty tho not the most talented (except karina) and go viral for their visuals and therfore making the grp more known. So I can see why they're preferring mai, they probably see her someone like that.
I won't defend sujung for saying things about Mai BUT think from her point of view. Mai is clearly not talented as sujung/yuju/juwon. But still get praised for doing bare minimum, for 'trying' and our girls? Let's talk about sujung. Tell me one moment where judges praised her? They always expect her to do "more" while average pretty trainee get praised. It is TOO obvious that they don't want her in debut Lineup. They told her to not imitiate CL abd literally told yuju to sound more like lisa??? Like make it make sense. Isn't it too obvious? Lol. This show is rigged as hell. And favouritism is at it's peak. I know for sure sujung,yuju,juwon won't make it in lineup. It's sad
i agree w u, abt mai it just started all bc of that performance “rain on me” she just showed her happiness and that was it and i don’t think shes that talented imo
that's what i was thinking with yuju. She should have given it to koko because it didn't benefit her because it doesn't fit her. I think she would have done better with koko part and saebi rap. She should have been in jiyoon unit i feel
Naa mnet was just overexaggerating it, yuju did well. It was just her mic was too low and i hate that they made it look like it was her fault☠️ She looks great on her fancam but they made her look bad
Based on what they did and didn't show us from the rankings, it's top 3 of Jeemin, Koko, and Saebi in no particular order, then 4th is Jiyoon, 5th is Fuko, and 6th is Gyuri. It's technically possible that Yuju or Jungeun COULD make it into the top 6, but given their feedback it seems unlikely
@@moonytsukiiThis is talking about the points added up between voting and judges points, which will determine the final score. Gyuri has 172 points currently, and we don't know Yuju's final score, but she would need to get 83 or above from the judges to pass Gyuri, which doesn't seem likely considering how much they criticized her (she'll probably get a score in the 70s)
Ugh the yuju sabotage was the thing that really upset me this episode. The way that they fixed and tuned up the other girls' mic who also had issues meanwhile they left it so yuju's voice can barely be heard. They also made it seem like it was yuju's fault she couldn't be heard in thru the editing even tho she was clearly having mic issues it just doesn't sit right.
Yuju's mic being lowered either by a sound issue. Or even worse, done on purpose. Then set her up with Koko in the next episode. Which Koko would have the advantage. With all the other edits to influence the voting. It's becoming sickening.
I feel they do not mind Fuko making even though she may not be in their ideal lineup. The next episode is important to know if Fuko, Junguen and yuju have any chances of debuting. They are clearly comparing Fuko with Sarang. And i feel they are setting Mai up for something (like choosing sarang for allrounder and mai for dancer when the other girls are far better in dance than her. They could have just interchanged the positions). Either mai will exceed expectations that will solidify her debut or she may not perform as well as others and fall back. I personally think. Mnet ideally want mai, sarang, Jiyoon, koko, saebi, jeemin. But they dont mind if fuko debuts in place of mai. Just my thoughts though.
Jungeun needs to be in the final line up in my opinion. She was definitely one of the favorites in the first part of Iland 2 so it’s really sad to see how they don’t care about her anymore when she is one of the most talented. 😢
jungeun was overlooked but not evil edited. not even once. the only thing they did was showing jiyoon criticizing jungeun but this time the judges were complimenting her so that no one would think jiyoons criticism was evil edited
She was made to look like the bad guy when Jiyoon got pushed out of I-land. They made it seem like it was her fault. They also made it seem like she was being controlling to Saebi when she was trying to help her as it was Saebi's first time leading. It's subtle but they are making her look bad.
she was. She was just trying to help the team, because Saebi don't have leader experience (I don't blame her she is so young) and they didn't have a lot of time. But it looks like she wanted to control everything when it's not true.
Editor got bored while editing Sarang's clips LOL. Also I am INCREDIBLY furious at korean fans. The most talented girl, Jungeun, has a low chance of debuting due to colourism! My top 6: 1. Jiyoon 2. Fuko 3. Jungeun 4. Juwon 5. Sarang 6. Koko Juwon black horse of the show and Jiyoon is the hardest worker.
@@chaesflwrs Juwon is not going to debut probably I'm afraid. I have been Jiyoon's biggest fan since the beginning. Ever since she was underrated and not mentioned (in drama performance).
I think this final lineup with be very favourable with the Korean viewers like ZB1 who all the members who debuted were the highest voted contestants in Korean votes alone and the members with the highest ranks will be decided by global votes explaining why jeemin will get center like Zhang with there sheer popularity globally and stability in Korea and FUKO will probably get second I’m not sure about Mai,sujung and jeungung debuting cause I think they lack Korean support
here's what I would have scored everyone for this mission: lovesick girls: 1. jungeun (98) her vocals really carried this performance and the pigtails are adorable, what are kfans even on?! 2. saebi (95) her star quality is through the ROOF 3. koko (88) her rap was iconic but she could've stood out more while not in the center 4. yuju (87) she did so well despite her very obvious mic problems la vie en rose: 1. fuko (96) for me she was the best in this team, stable vocals that matched this song so well 2. jeemin (93) she did so well as center and I love that she is more confident in part 2 3. gyuri (85) she did well for the parts she was given but like koko she didn't really stand out unless she was in the center 4. sarang (75) awww my poor sarang she seemed so nervous and the mistake sadly wasn't it, she had good facial expressions though I am the best: 1. jiyoon (98) she was made for this style and concept 2. sujung (90) going off the points I made about the other trainees, sujung is the opposite. even when not in center your eyes will still draw to her bc she has that aura. 3. juwon (87) she is criminally underrated and I wish she got more screen time /: 4. mai (77) she seemed nervous and stiff but did decently for her part. I hope we get the confident mai back that we had in drama and rain on me. overall rank: 1. jungeun (98) 2. jiyoon (98) 3. fuko (96) 4. saebi (95) 5. jeemin (93) 6. sujung (90) 7. koko (88) 8. yuju (87) 9. juwon (87) 10. gyuri (85) 11. mai (77) 12. sarang (75) (this pains me /:) performance rank: 1. lovesick girls 2. I am the best 3. la vie en rose
I didnt expect to finish the video, I have been waiting for someone else to review on a "BLUNT" and unbiased take because people tend to buzz when their fave doesn't get picked. TBH These applicants are good and don't care much on who will debut// Must save JIYOON and IDGAF who the rest are cause they are all good
The way that I see the final lineup going at this point (assuming a bonus/7th member will be added) is - JiYoon, SaeBi, JeeMin and Koko w/ two slots up for grabs (hopefully Fuko and Mai) and JungEun being the producer pick. If the producers picked the groups for the next challenge, then they put JiYoon and JungEun together on purpose so they could have a resolution to their "conflict". JuWon, SaRang and YuJu are fading into the background and GyuRi and SuJung are off the list in the eyes of the network at this point imho.
@@joylee1657 absolutely. some things are devil edits and some are just people having bad moments - this is unfortunately both and therefore something she’s not likely to make it past.
definitely Yuju is way better than Koko in my opinion but i do agree this ep was Yuju turn to be passed by Koko. Lowering her Mic and evil editing her. i love Yuju but its time to say goodbye. unless it comes down to votes cus Koko is going through the same thing Mathew and Yujin went through where they were very popular because they were tied to someone more popular. for example Mathew and Hanbin and Yujin and Gyuvin. but towards the end both of there ranks went down due to 1 pick. a big majority of Koko fans are picking her for her story line with Jeemin and Saebi but when it comes down to 1 pick, its gonna be a show down where as Yuju has a solid 1 pick fanbase both internationally and in Korea My Top 6 are Fuko Jiyoon Jungeun Saebi Yuju Sujung or Sarang
My personal list that nobody should take too serious (Not a tier list) 1. Jeemin-Overrated and Biased (Mostly by fans) I wouldn't say she bad, she's really good at everything, but that literally her problem. She only just now really stood out, even then that because of her good edit. Her current performance honestly just good, not that special. She literally do what the average supposed to be. She best at second place at current performance, and all the vote from fans and judge is soo biased. 2. Jungeun-Underrated (By fans) She literally like one of the best contestant here, like why is her score so low? She never done any performance bad, she always do well, especially in vocal. The judges expect too much from Jungeun yet she keep barely got praise. Also ifk if is really the korean fans or not, but stop hating on Jungeun. 3. Jiyoon-Biased (By fans and Judge) Here me out before y'all start the hate, she is a really good vocalist... but that is rly it- Honestly right, if not for the editing, her dance, performance, and facial is average no? I think both judges and fans rly too biased on her and everytime she did little bit good, she got praised a lot. Jiyoon is literally one of the favorite child of the show fr. Even though she is biased, she is deserving her praised of talent, she is not overrated. 4. Sujung-Underrated and Hated (By fans) Sujung is such an incredible contestant. I dont get why the judge really keep giving Sujung such a high expectations, especially in the current performance. Like she literally do great here, but just bcus she perfecting the CL Imitation, yall gonna give her low? Any who, although I support Sujung, is true the current action Sunung give ia really a low blow, I wont deny it. I wont expect her making it at this point, the action cant be undone. 5. Sarang-Biased and Overrated (By Judges) Ok speaking by fact, she is a great contestant, nothing wrong at all. But is she the best? No, I dont get the hybe that the judges give to her with all the biased comment and i sarang u sarang thing. Like at least if you going to give her compliments, give it to other as well who might be more better... 6. Saebi-Deserving and Biased (By Judges and Fans) I really dont know what to say, she is great, like what yall expect me to say? She never really do anything bad, she delivered it. My only lil complaint might be vocal, but her vocal isnt bad either. 7. Fuko-Underrated I dont really know her much, but I know for a fact she such a good contestant. I honestly sad how little praised been given to her so far, like based on this performance as well, I would say she literally done the best job imo, compare to Jeemin (no hate). Idk how fans opinion on her, so i cant tell how big and biased her fanbase are. 8. Mai-Overrated but also Underrated (?) Before I start this, I'm a fan of Mai ok, hear me out. She is a great contestant, as you can see by all her score from all performance. But I wouldn't say that her skill are that great, she definitely need a lot of improvement in all aspectf, she's a good center amd visual tho imo. I also actually like her unique singing voice, it give more variety into the song. 9.Koko, Juwon, Yuju, Gyuri-Underrated I'm sorry to all their fan, but I dont really know mufh about them. But what I know, they all robed from the show. They literally either got no screen time, no comment, bad edit, etc. Like producer, cant yall see all their potential? That all for my long af opinion, remember y'all, this just MY OPINION, dont start any hate. You can give your opinion with a proof so I can reconsider my opinion ❤
I understand your opinion but I have to disagree about jeemin. She is one of the best because she is good at everything. I agree that she has the most fans but that is also because of her talent. But she is not favoured by the judges. Saebi is always favoured by judges. She tries really hard in practice and she has never had a failure in a live performance. But this is just my opinion and I understand your opinion
To be honest, Mai should not debut at all. I don't see anything that was a real impact. Pretty privilege is also doing its job and it's crazy because of the double standards that came from runext. People absolutely hated Wonhee but she can sing and dance. Mai has really good facial expressions but tends to exaggerate them. I haven't seen her dancing to stand out and she still has a nasal tone. Im sorry but because it will be a 6 member group, she will get a lot of lines but encores will worry me. Also for Jeemin, she is pretty much an all rounder but she never really came out in part 1. Part 2, im seeing a lot from her but it still doesn't seem like it would be enough if she didn't come from runext. I have seen a lot from her so I genuinely think she needs to debut because ru rigged was a canon event for her.
I’m sorry I need to fight for my girl sarang 😭🙏 my #1 since the start Ok she was so amazing tho she is biased by the judges (lwk thankful for) she is not overrated imo She has done amazing since the start and this mistake in la vein rose was her first the edits are in her favor but it’s because you can see how much she improves from the criticism she gets she is so good with her dancing and being main vocal in whistle she did amazing her stage presence is good but she can improve I admit. So love that!! Overall not overrated bc she deserved that ❤️❤️❤️ Ok and koko Koko vote best dancer in the show AMAZING Amazing rapper too Can improve on vocal Improving on stage presence every single performance So koko is no way below Mai I’m sorry VOTE SARANG AND JIYOON ❤️❤️❤️
If Jeungeun doesn't make it into the lineup won't this be the first time a contestant that got the center part in the signal song doesn't debut? (in an Mnet show)
This might be what they are going for but it seems like Mnet did not notice that Jungeun is not too popular in korea, as we see in the score from the audience. Yuju got about 30 points more that her though they would not hear her. I like yuju but that just doesn't make sense
No but the reason it worked for Jiyoon is because she improved after she was sent to Ground. Plus she didn't really get to show her skills in the title song. The viewers already know how skilled Jungeun is though. Unless they do a redemption arc with Jiyoon and Jungeun and make them seem like BFFs I don't see Jungeun debuting...which sucks cause I think she is the most skilled and deserving of debut.
I don't think jungeun is a favorite, I think she was at first but the producers let knetz opinions sway their opinions. at the end of the day they want this group to be popular in Korea, hence gyuri suddenly becoming a more favored contestant bc she is more popular in SK than a lot of other trainees. jungeun is my 2nd pick and I'm slowly losing hope but I continuously vote for her every day.
I always watch the performances (without the edits) before I watch the actual episode and then I compare my opinion to how the show edited it. But this episode I generally agreed with edit. I noticed Yuju not singing in the beginning, I definitely noticed how nervous Sarang looked. But the edit always surprises me. I think Yuju would have trouble singing her part, but instead they basically used koko to make yuju look bad (the episode was brutal on Yuju 😭 bad edits after bad edits). I personally didn't think koko did that great, but the episode obviously wanted that to happen. I was surprised by the sujung edit, I didn't really notice her during the performance. I was also surprised by the Mai edit, not because I don't agree, but I feel like her expressions were so good and no one mentioned it, and I feel like she sounds like a passable kpop idol (it's giving Hybe would debut her). I thought more focus would be on Juwon because she literally ate that performance to me and was the only member who got the vibe, but they didn't and that annoyed me. And I didn't think Jiyoon did a crazy good job, but mnet is trying to make me think this was her breakthrough, I think she did okay. I think they are gonna do an arc for either Sarang or Mai. I think Sarang has a stronger foundation for an arc because this has been a big issue for her in the show and has been given a lit of screentime in multiple episodes. If Jiyoon had the arc in the first part, then Sarang will have one in the second part. I love Mai and I love her expressions, so I feel bad that Mnet is probably trying to push her out of the group. But I don't know for sure, maybe we will get a double arc. But I feel more bad for Juwon because she is so good and natural to me, and I think none of the other girls are as naturally charismatic as she is, so I'm sad that Mnet seems to want her to be forgettable.
The line up mnet def want : Jiyoon Jimin Saebi Mai Sarang Koko The first members I thinl will be eliminted is Juwon from lack of popularity, and then Yuju, Sujung and Gyuri. I think they want to eliminate Yuju bc they never had her in the line up (that's why they put her to elimination by choosing Mai over her while she always did a great job but they try to make her look like she is average (lack of screentime, lack of parts). But she got a lots of votes, I think more than expected, so that's why they went so hard on her last episode. Sujung was not really popular but I think now she will fall even more. For Gyuri, idk, I don't see her debuting, I think mnet won't keep her until the final. Then talking about Fuko and Jungeun. They are at great risk of being eliminated. I think they will make it to the final. Fuko had a lot of screentime indeed but these last episodes I feel like mnet and they judges are playing the invisibility card... Like everyone knows how talented she is but they take her for granted and it feels like she got tons of fans while I don't think she's that popular in Korea. I see her pulling a Keita or a Yurina this season and I hope I'm wrong because she is my absolute fav. And for Jungeun hear me out. She started being the star, the it girl of the show, having so many privileges, and she slowly started to have less and less screentime and now evil editing. I think it's because she didn't meet their expectation as the center of the show. She literally started as the center of their signal song, being first everywhere etc. She was the Sung Hanbin of this season. But idk I feel like it was not the same effect globally in the kpop sphere. Like mnet probably thinks she don't have that it girl effect she needs to sell and support that role. That's why they pushed her aside and took Saebi as their new center (or even Jimin). Here are my thoughts :) My fav line up would be : Fuko Saebi Jungeun Koko And then maybe Juwon and Yuju
@@jayem9038They will be under wakeone and their producer will be teddy.Thats why they have a collaboration with the blacklabel.Teddy is debuting his own group.Jiyoon for example was an ex the black label trainee,which is why the producer teddy himself wants her in the group so badly,since she fits his style perfectly and he knows her strengths.Jungeun could still debut if the feedback and overall votes favor her but international fans don’t prioritize vocals anyways or else she would be in every of y‘alls too 3.Jiyoon and jungeun would be a deadly combo that we might not even get…
@@guinnmyahslaysstaymad its strange if teddy really like jiyoon then why not let her join his blacklabel group? But anyways I just hope fuko, jiyoon and jungeun will debut. This 3 in the vocal line will be amazing.
@@jayem9038 because she probably doesn’t fit well with the remaining debut members?Hikaru also didn’t debut with xg due to various of reasons but her company still sent her to gp999
The part I find annoying is that Jiyoons actions and attitude were worse than what Sujung said, she basically said that she just didn't want to help Mai because it s a competition which i bet some were thinking, but everyone turned on her so fast and are making all these hateful edits. Like be forrreal, Sujung is is so talented yet they forgave Jiyoon when she's still beefing with Jungeun over nothing. I love them both, but yall turn on people so fast like they are kids, they are teens.
Jiyoon never been worse, Jiyoon got every right to be upset while sujung was mocking another contestant, it’s ur choice if u didn’t want to help, but why mocking?
@@wakasa._.1over I’ve watched the clips back multiple times, she never mocked her. She was distinguishing how the two tones come off based off of where your placement is when singing. Y’all will say anything at this point
@@lrobertdavisl No, Sujung was my 4th pick since preshow but I gotta be objective both of her and yuju were laughing so stop making excuses. And comparing this to the jiyoon situation is weird
@@wakasa._.1over rewatch it lmao, the whole convo was about how sujung knew the issue but didn’t wanna help which is valid, shes from a dance background, that’s how we are. It’s an individual competition, can I agree she should’ve helped, yes, but they laughed about how she knew the issue but didn’t tell mai, nothing was her making fun of how she sang. But hey this gonna be my last response cuz seems like you don’t wanna admit it lol
the lineup mnet wants jeemin koko saebi jiyoon sarang mai the lineup i want !! 1. jeemin 2. jungeun 3. jiyoon 4. saebi 5. fuko 6. yuju gyuri / sarang (hopefully add a 7th member) or to replace yuju if she doesn't debut :")
I don't think mnet cares to have mai in the lineup. I'd say the clear ones they want are jeemin, koko, saebi, jiyoon, and sarang. 6th is a tossup but mai doesn't seem to be a favorite anymore.
When they revealed the reason of the 'feud' between Jiyoon and Jungeun I was flumoxed & mad. How can they seriously be pushing the Jiyoon is grown now and painting her in a positive light when they just showed a video showing how petty she is ??? Did they think that ppl forgot the first vote was a vote about who the girls wanted to work with and that during this mission Jiyoon was the WORST team player endangering her team when she refused to train and threw her tantrum ? Nobody voted for her so why spin the evil editing onto Jungeun only ? I was willing to ignore the angel editing toward Jiyoon (likethe Sarang one) UNTIL they decided to put down Jungeun to achieve it. What bullshit. About the audience vote, when I watched their dance formation more closely I got the feeling that ppl thougth Saebi was singing Jungeun's part. That's the only reason I can see her votes being this low. If the juges didn't give at least 90 points to Jungeun I'll be even MORE pissed. Because with this and the evil editing, clearly they're writing her out to only have new Rosé in their group.
@@chaesflwrs And how exactly was Jiyoon evil edited this episode ? Or even any episode since the Eye Nose Lip episode ? There's no double standard in what I'm saying. Jungeun is actively being evil edited while Jiyoon is being Angel edited. Period. It's just stupid for them to use this clip of Jiyoon to evil edit Jungeun and shift the blame to her because it only highlight a bad side of Jiyoon they've been trying to make everyone forget since the Eye Nose Lip episode. I don't know what you're calling double standard in what I'm saying.
@@123ale27 I agree and I hope so. I keep voting Jungeun and Fuko. I'm afraid for Fuko because she was nonexistent this episode and for Jungeun when I see what what ppl are saying about k-netizens and colorism being at play again. For Jiyoon it's pretty obvious production is doing everything for her to be in the final line-up so it won't be surprising to see her debut.
@ChulipsChu Let's be fr here. Originally it was jiyoon who was given the evil edit and jungeun who was given the hero edit. It just backfired on mnet as jiyoon became really popular while jungeun very undeservedly failed to hit it big with the knetz as mnet originally thought. So basically both of them at this point have had their fair share of evil and angel editing so I don't think it's fair to just call it out now
lets be real. this is already part 2 and they have to be extra hard on the contestants because they're all good. I actually think that all of the criticism they're giving is valid.
@@sanainthesky She does have Jennie Kim vibes on her looks. no matter how much you try to mock her my opinion won't change. See for yourself. we got a lot of dupes on that show Mai - Yeji Sujung - Jennie Park Yeeun - Jisoo Jiyoon - Rosé I'm not saying they're trying to be them but the visual standard is clear... there's also a girl that reminds me of Garam so much but I can't remember her name ^ She was the one to control the "motor bike" part during the 'Rain on me' GROUND performance. the visual preferences from that show were Blackpink Ive Iz*one Le sserafim Itzy [...]
@@Heshu-i2t im NOT mocking anyone lmfaoo chill girlie people have different opinions and the garam lookalike i think you're talking about is yuju but i have no idea how you see a resemblance between them
you are kinda rude lol. sarang is literally 16, and a TRAINEE. ofcourse she was disappointed that she couldn't hit the note infront of a LIVE audience. it was NOT a voice crack?? she hit the note in the practice, so we know she can do it. you clearly HATE a minor, i don't care if you're not personally connected to a contestant, thta's fine. but being "least affectionate" of sarang for JUDGE comments is really funny. and she got a low score, idk what you want from her? she didn't fuck up the performance so why should she get even lower scores?
@@yansxe_ she wasn't just sharing her opinion tho. she was shitting on sarang consistently and held her accountable for the score the 3rd party gave her. and acted like sarang fucked up the performance, when she performed great until that note.
I think the final trainees have already been picked. Since they're only picking 6: it's going to be Fuko (leader), jeemin (all rounder), mai (visual), saebi (center), koko (dancer, rapper), jiyoon (main vocal). I think this is the line up they're going to end up picking. They're probably thinking that since Jungeun is young, it's okay to drop her, there's still gonna be chance for her. But honestly, for a trainee to fail in a survival competition, producers will step back and think that she's not good enough since she failed once. Although for me, if I'm going to drop someone, it will be Jeemin. She hasn't really tapped into her besr performance. In dancing, Koko and saebi are better than her, in rapping, Koko and yuju is better than her, In singing, Jungeun and jiyoon is better than her and even in leadership, Fuko is better than her. She's always second best than someone so if someone should be dropped, it should be her.
Su jung is just sujung. If she's with street dancers' show of course having that kind of attitude is still good. But with kpop survival shows it's neeee
Definitivamente de acuerdo contigo ya mnet hara derrumbar a cualquiera de las talentosas chicas para que entre una en especial pena da que una de las mejores no entrara una por que la ocupara una persona
I don't agree with what she said either but I don't she's biased like imo jungeun was just trying to help saebi and since they only had 12 hours to learn everything she was stressed
Well, I also don't think Jungeun is a good fix in this line up. Since she's a great vocalist, it's best if she debuts with an all vocal group member like the ones they did with NMIXX or AESPA.
Not Mnet trying to make some of the talented trainees look bad so
they can eliminate them.
Sujung
Junguen
Juwon
Yuju
jeungeun was their fav in the first half and jiyoon their least liked. we dont know how their fight will be going on so dont make too fast assumptions about them not having anything against jiyoon
well its likely that jungeun was their favorite in part 1 and they were trying to sabotage jiyoon. but they mightve saw knetz liked jiyoon and disliked jungeun, so they switched sides in part 2.
Sujung wasnt evil edited she said what she said
I think they used Jungeun as a pacemaker for Jiyoon. Honestly, attitude wise, Jiyoon doesn't have a good one. She's too competitive that she can get aggressive when she loses and she always wants the best part whether or not others may be better than her in that part. And she's so petty, she doesn't want to make up just because Jungeun didn't vote her, that's her reason for not talking to her 😂😂😂
Sujung did it to herself
For sarang i think they know that she could do it thats why they said its okay bec they were watching them while practise and during practise she sang the high note easily multiple times
Yes I am praying for my girlie sarang!! She did so well and this is literally her first mistake!! She has literally been my #1 since the first ep ❤ but also I really think that sarang deserved the second place as she did well in every performance (I’m very biased) but then again your point is valid because jungeun (mb if I misspelled) is very solid, I also think that sujung isn’t liked by the producer like their standards for her are insane.
VOTE SARANG AND JIYOON ❤❤❤
@@IvyUwU56 agree
@@IvyUwU56Girl sameee!
Sarang has always been my favourite since day 1. She has TALENTS🤌
Unfortunately tho because of her nervousness, she couldn’t perform her best at the end part. I just wish she could be more confident in herself because man she is genuinely very talented and has amazing stage presence. She caught my eyes the most in the ‘Law’ performance. I wish she can be more confident and Ik she will slay. I wish her all the very best ❤
Mee too
I’m upset for Yuju. That wasn’t really a main dancer part, there was not even a dance break. They should have divided the parts as center, main vocal, main dancer and main rapper. But no, they need to create drama with unfair line distribution.
tbh the Sujung thing looks like a complete set up, weird angles that are usually not there as if they placed cameras specifically for this, A LOT of cuts that do not fit together and even Juwon disappearing and Koko appearing in her place when Jiyoon entered the room like- idk for me it's a clear evil editing. Of course Sujung said what she said but the context of the laughing for example could perfectly be a complete different one.
Anyways go vote for Juwon, Sujung and Jungeun they are so talented but so hated :(
fr, cant agree more
I don't think so because they can't know beforehand what the Islanders are going to say. So it's impossible for them to set camera beforehand to shoot just this.. It's sujung who is foolish to say such things on camera.
@@IJ_Mariathey get filmed all day long and then the editors chose what they will put in the episode .
@@IJ_Maria It wouldn't be the first time nor the last that Mnet makes a situation up by telling the girls what they should say. Take Girls planet as an example, Fu Yaning was hated since episode 1 because of what she said to Yujin only to later on be revealed that she actually was asked by the staff to say that to make up the drama that happened
I just want jungeun to debut 😭
Jungeun and Sujung😭😭 If they do not debut im not gonna stan
Lets be real the Jungeun- Jiyoo rivalry is fake
Not sure. I mean, it's true they're not talking. And it's also true that jiyoon's reason for not talking to her is so petty. 😂
I don't think it's fake, they clearly had a misunderstanding and it showed when in the latest episode jungeun went to a completely separate room to practice. glad they talked though! yeah mnet over hyped the heck out of it but the conflict was definitely real.
I really don't get the hype towards Mai. Clearly she is not as talented as other contestants (e.g. Yuju, sujung) but still got so much praise . I love her personality tho but isn't this show about talent ? Also I don't really like her exaggerated facial expressions.
LOUDER PLEASE
this is exactly it. sure, she shows potential. but survival shows aren't about potential, they're about talent that contestants already have, so that argument makes no sense. it's unfair to the debut-ready contestants to be passed up for someone who could be great in the future.
But mai will debut don't worry
El hate que se vendrá por que ella ocupará el espacio de una concursante talentosa
Samee but I feel she's definitely gonna debut coz she's pretty. We hv seen in almost all kpop grps theres THAT 1 pretty member who gets popularity to the grp, eg. Wonyoung, Karina, wonhee, irene, Suzy, tzuyu
These ppl are insanely pretty tho not the most talented (except karina) and go viral for their visuals and therfore making the grp more known. So I can see why they're preferring mai, they probably see her someone like that.
I won't defend sujung for saying things about Mai BUT think from her point of view. Mai is clearly not talented as sujung/yuju/juwon. But still get praised for doing bare minimum, for 'trying' and our girls? Let's talk about sujung. Tell me one moment where judges praised her? They always expect her to do "more" while average pretty trainee get praised. It is TOO obvious that they don't want her in debut Lineup. They told her to not imitiate CL abd literally told yuju to sound more like lisa??? Like make it make sense. Isn't it too obvious? Lol. This show is rigged as hell. And favouritism is at it's peak. I know for sure sujung,yuju,juwon won't make it in lineup. It's sad
i agree w u, abt mai it just started all bc of that performance “rain on me” she just showed her happiness and that was it and i don’t think shes that talented imo
that's what i was thinking with yuju. She should have given it to koko because it didn't benefit her because it doesn't fit her. I think she would have done better with koko part and saebi rap. She should have been in jiyoon unit i feel
I’m not sure if Saebi would’ve given her the rap part. After all, she gave it to Koko bc they’re best friends and Saebi wants to debut with her
Naa mnet was just overexaggerating it, yuju did well. It was just her mic was too low and i hate that they made it look like it was her fault☠️
She looks great on her fancam but they made her look bad
@@keitaro2252 shes did a good job i don't deny but i think koko would have done better
Based on what they did and didn't show us from the rankings, it's top 3 of Jeemin, Koko, and Saebi in no particular order, then 4th is Jiyoon, 5th is Fuko, and 6th is Gyuri. It's technically possible that Yuju or Jungeun COULD make it into the top 6, but given their feedback it seems unlikely
6th place is Yuju though, Gyuri is 8th
Isn’t saebi 7 th
@@SanaKishore-ot3xwyou are talking about the voting, while this comment is about the points they received for the performance
@@noav1404 oh sorry my mistake
@@moonytsukiiThis is talking about the points added up between voting and judges points, which will determine the final score. Gyuri has 172 points currently, and we don't know Yuju's final score, but she would need to get 83 or above from the judges to pass Gyuri, which doesn't seem likely considering how much they criticized her (she'll probably get a score in the 70s)
Ugh the yuju sabotage was the thing that really upset me this episode. The way that they fixed and tuned up the other girls' mic who also had issues meanwhile they left it so yuju's voice can barely be heard. They also made it seem like it was yuju's fault she couldn't be heard in thru the editing even tho she was clearly having mic issues it just doesn't sit right.
Yuju's mic being lowered either by a sound issue. Or even worse, done on purpose. Then set her up with Koko in the next episode. Which Koko would have the advantage. With all the other edits to influence the voting. It's becoming sickening.
I feel they do not mind Fuko making even though she may not be in their ideal lineup. The next episode is important to know if Fuko, Junguen and yuju have any chances of debuting. They are clearly comparing Fuko with Sarang. And i feel they are setting Mai up for something (like choosing sarang for allrounder and mai for dancer when the other girls are far better in dance than her. They could have just interchanged the positions). Either mai will exceed expectations that will solidify her debut or she may not perform as well as others and fall back.
I personally think. Mnet ideally want mai, sarang, Jiyoon, koko, saebi, jeemin. But they dont mind if fuko debuts in place of mai. Just my thoughts though.
I agree with you about mnet’s favourite line up but I really don’t like it :(
Jungeun needs to be in the final line up in my opinion. She was definitely one of the favorites in the first part of Iland 2 so it’s really sad to see how they don’t care about her anymore when she is one of the most talented. 😢
@@A98765 Real her vocal, dance, stage presence/facial expression, and visual is all solid
honestly itll probably be a seven member lineup anyway
Girl , jungeun slayed the live vocals
In panorama performance , but those coaches reacting only to seabi calling " her pretty " , I WAS MADDD .
jungeun was overlooked but not evil edited. not even once.
the only thing they did was showing jiyoon criticizing jungeun but this time the judges were complimenting her so that no one would think jiyoons criticism was evil edited
She was made to look like the bad guy when Jiyoon got pushed out of I-land. They made it seem like it was her fault.
They also made it seem like she was being controlling to Saebi when she was trying to help her as it was Saebi's first time leading.
It's subtle but they are making her look bad.
she was. She was just trying to help the team, because Saebi don't have leader experience (I don't blame her she is so young) and they didn't have a lot of time. But it looks like she wanted to control everything when it's not true.
Editor got bored while editing Sarang's clips LOL. Also I am INCREDIBLY furious at korean fans. The most talented girl, Jungeun, has a low chance of debuting due to colourism!
My top 6:
1. Jiyoon
2. Fuko
3. Jungeun
4. Juwon
5. Sarang
6. Koko
Juwon black horse of the show and Jiyoon is the hardest worker.
JIIYOON, JUWON DEBUT
@@chaesflwrs Juwon is not going to debut probably I'm afraid. I have been Jiyoon's biggest fan since the beginning. Ever since she was underrated and not mentioned (in drama performance).
And Jeemin
@@A98765 jeemin isnt in my top 6 but im not opposed to her debuting
I think this final lineup with be very favourable with the Korean viewers like ZB1 who all the members who debuted were the highest voted contestants in Korean votes alone and the members with the highest ranks will be decided by global votes explaining why jeemin will get center like Zhang with there sheer popularity globally and stability in Korea and FUKO will probably get second I’m not sure about Mai,sujung and jeungung debuting cause I think they lack Korean support
here's what I would have scored everyone for this mission:
lovesick girls:
1. jungeun (98) her vocals really carried this performance and the pigtails are adorable, what are kfans even on?!
2. saebi (95) her star quality is through the ROOF
3. koko (88) her rap was iconic but she could've stood out more while not in the center
4. yuju (87) she did so well despite her very obvious mic problems
la vie en rose:
1. fuko (96) for me she was the best in this team, stable vocals that matched this song so well
2. jeemin (93) she did so well as center and I love that she is more confident in part 2
3. gyuri (85) she did well for the parts she was given but like koko she didn't really stand out unless she was in the center
4. sarang (75) awww my poor sarang she seemed so nervous and the mistake sadly wasn't it, she had good facial expressions though
I am the best:
1. jiyoon (98) she was made for this style and concept
2. sujung (90) going off the points I made about the other trainees, sujung is the opposite. even when not in center your eyes will still draw to her bc she has that aura.
3. juwon (87) she is criminally underrated and I wish she got more screen time /:
4. mai (77) she seemed nervous and stiff but did decently for her part. I hope we get the confident mai back that we had in drama and rain on me.
overall rank:
1. jungeun (98)
2. jiyoon (98)
3. fuko (96)
4. saebi (95)
5. jeemin (93)
6. sujung (90)
7. koko (88)
8. yuju (87)
9. juwon (87)
10. gyuri (85)
11. mai (77)
12. sarang (75) (this pains me /:)
performance rank:
1. lovesick girls
2. I am the best
3. la vie en rose
I didnt expect to finish the video, I have been waiting for someone else to review on a "BLUNT" and unbiased take because people tend to buzz when their fave doesn't get picked.
TBH These applicants are good and don't care much on who will debut// Must save JIYOON and IDGAF who the rest are cause they are all good
The way that I see the final lineup going at this point (assuming a bonus/7th member will be added) is - JiYoon, SaeBi, JeeMin and Koko w/ two slots up for grabs (hopefully Fuko and Mai) and JungEun being the producer pick.
If the producers picked the groups for the next challenge, then they put JiYoon and JungEun together on purpose so they could have a resolution to their "conflict". JuWon, SaRang and YuJu are fading into the background and GyuRi and SuJung are off the list in the eyes of the network at this point imho.
So sad I'm rlly rooting for sujung but Mnet is setting her up for failure
@@joylee1657 absolutely. some things are devil edits and some are just people having bad moments - this is unfortunately both and therefore something she’s not likely to make it past.
definitely Yuju is way better than Koko in my opinion but i do agree this ep was Yuju turn to be passed by Koko. Lowering her Mic and evil editing her. i love Yuju but its time to say goodbye. unless it comes down to votes cus Koko is going through the same thing Mathew and Yujin went through where they were very popular because they were tied to someone more popular. for example Mathew and Hanbin and Yujin and Gyuvin. but towards the end both of there ranks went down due to 1 pick. a big majority of Koko fans are picking her for her story line with Jeemin and Saebi but when it comes down to 1 pick, its gonna be a show down where as Yuju has a solid 1 pick fanbase both internationally and in Korea
My Top 6 are
Fuko
Jiyoon
Jungeun
Saebi
Yuju
Sujung or Sarang
Vote Jungeun ❤
My personal list that nobody should take too serious (Not a tier list)
1. Jeemin-Overrated and Biased (Mostly by fans)
I wouldn't say she bad, she's really good at everything, but that literally her problem. She only just now really stood out, even then that because of her good edit. Her current performance honestly just good, not that special. She literally do what the average supposed to be. She best at second place at current performance, and all the vote from fans and judge is soo biased.
2. Jungeun-Underrated (By fans)
She literally like one of the best contestant here, like why is her score so low? She never done any performance bad, she always do well, especially in vocal. The judges expect too much from Jungeun yet she keep barely got praise. Also ifk if is really the korean fans or not, but stop hating on Jungeun.
3. Jiyoon-Biased (By fans and Judge)
Here me out before y'all start the hate, she is a really good vocalist... but that is rly it- Honestly right, if not for the editing, her dance, performance, and facial is average no? I think both judges and fans rly too biased on her and everytime she did little bit good, she got praised a lot.
Jiyoon is literally one of the favorite child of the show fr. Even though she is biased, she is deserving her praised of talent, she is not overrated.
4. Sujung-Underrated and Hated (By fans)
Sujung is such an incredible contestant. I dont get why the judge really keep giving Sujung such a high expectations, especially in the current performance. Like she literally do great here, but just bcus she perfecting the CL Imitation, yall gonna give her low? Any who, although I support Sujung, is true the current action Sunung give ia really a low blow, I wont deny it. I wont expect her making it at this point, the action cant be undone.
5. Sarang-Biased and Overrated (By Judges)
Ok speaking by fact, she is a great contestant, nothing wrong at all. But is she the best? No, I dont get the hybe that the judges give to her with all the biased comment and i sarang u sarang thing. Like at least if you going to give her compliments, give it to other as well who might be more better...
6. Saebi-Deserving and Biased (By Judges and Fans)
I really dont know what to say, she is great, like what yall expect me to say? She never really do anything bad, she delivered it. My only lil complaint might be vocal, but her vocal isnt bad either.
7. Fuko-Underrated
I dont really know her much, but I know for a fact she such a good contestant. I honestly sad how little praised been given to her so far, like based on this performance as well, I would say she literally done the best job imo, compare to Jeemin (no hate). Idk how fans opinion on her, so i cant tell how big and biased her fanbase are.
8. Mai-Overrated but also Underrated (?)
Before I start this, I'm a fan of Mai ok, hear me out. She is a great contestant, as you can see by all her score from all performance. But I wouldn't say that her skill are that great, she definitely need a lot of improvement in all aspectf, she's a good center amd visual tho imo. I also actually like her unique singing voice, it give more variety into the song.
9.Koko, Juwon, Yuju, Gyuri-Underrated
I'm sorry to all their fan, but I dont really know mufh about them. But what I know, they all robed from the show. They literally either got no screen time, no comment, bad edit, etc. Like producer, cant yall see all their potential?
That all for my long af opinion, remember y'all, this just MY OPINION, dont start any hate. You can give your opinion with a proof so I can reconsider my opinion ❤
I understand your opinion but I have to disagree about jeemin. She is one of the best because she is good at everything. I agree that she has the most fans but that is also because of her talent. But she is not favoured by the judges. Saebi is always favoured by judges. She tries really hard in practice and she has never had a failure in a live performance. But this is just my opinion and I understand your opinion
To be honest, Mai should not debut at all. I don't see anything that was a real impact. Pretty privilege is also doing its job and it's crazy because of the double standards that came from runext. People absolutely hated Wonhee but she can sing and dance. Mai has really good facial expressions but tends to exaggerate them. I haven't seen her dancing to stand out and she still has a nasal tone. Im sorry but because it will be a 6 member group, she will get a lot of lines but encores will worry me. Also for Jeemin, she is pretty much an all rounder but she never really came out in part 1. Part 2, im seeing a lot from her but it still doesn't seem like it would be enough if she didn't come from runext. I have seen a lot from her so I genuinely think she needs to debut because ru rigged was a canon event for her.
I’m sorry I need to fight for my girl sarang 😭🙏 my #1 since the start
Ok she was so amazing tho she is biased by the judges (lwk thankful for) she is not overrated imo
She has done amazing since the start and this mistake in la vein rose was her first the edits are in her favor but it’s because you can see how much she improves from the criticism she gets she is so good with her dancing and being main vocal in whistle she did amazing her stage presence is good but she can improve I admit. So love that!! Overall not overrated bc she deserved that ❤️❤️❤️
Ok and koko
Koko vote best dancer in the show AMAZING
Amazing rapper too
Can improve on vocal
Improving on stage presence every single performance
So koko is no way below Mai I’m sorry
VOTE SARANG AND JIYOON ❤️❤️❤️
I agree with all of these i love you
Idk how Sarang is overrated when she is least picked by netizens
If Jeungeun doesn't make it into the lineup won't this be the first time a contestant that got the center part in the signal song doesn't debut? (in an Mnet show)
personally i do think that they just saw jiyoon getting success through evil editing so now they are trying it out on their actual favorite jungeun
This might be what they are going for but it seems like Mnet did not notice that Jungeun is not too popular in korea, as we see in the score from the audience. Yuju got about 30 points more that her though they would not hear her. I like yuju but that just doesn't make sense
No but the reason it worked for Jiyoon is because she improved after she was sent to Ground. Plus she didn't really get to show her skills in the title song.
The viewers already know how skilled Jungeun is though. Unless they do a redemption arc with Jiyoon and Jungeun and make them seem like BFFs I don't see Jungeun debuting...which sucks cause I think she is the most skilled and deserving of debut.
I don't think jungeun is a favorite, I think she was at first but the producers let knetz opinions sway their opinions. at the end of the day they want this group to be popular in Korea, hence gyuri suddenly becoming a more favored contestant bc she is more popular in SK than a lot of other trainees. jungeun is my 2nd pick and I'm slowly losing hope but I continuously vote for her every day.
has no one else picked up on fuko flat high note
I always watch the performances (without the edits) before I watch the actual episode and then I compare my opinion to how the show edited it. But this episode I generally agreed with edit. I noticed Yuju not singing in the beginning, I definitely noticed how nervous Sarang looked.
But the edit always surprises me. I think Yuju would have trouble singing her part, but instead they basically used koko to make yuju look bad (the episode was brutal on Yuju 😭 bad edits after bad edits). I personally didn't think koko did that great, but the episode obviously wanted that to happen.
I was surprised by the sujung edit, I didn't really notice her during the performance. I was also surprised by the Mai edit, not because I don't agree, but I feel like her expressions were so good and no one mentioned it, and I feel like she sounds like a passable kpop idol (it's giving Hybe would debut her). I thought more focus would be on Juwon because she literally ate that performance to me and was the only member who got the vibe, but they didn't and that annoyed me. And I didn't think Jiyoon did a crazy good job, but mnet is trying to make me think this was her breakthrough, I think she did okay.
I think they are gonna do an arc for either Sarang or Mai. I think Sarang has a stronger foundation for an arc because this has been a big issue for her in the show and has been given a lit of screentime in multiple episodes. If Jiyoon had the arc in the first part, then Sarang will have one in the second part.
I love Mai and I love her expressions, so I feel bad that Mnet is probably trying to push her out of the group. But I don't know for sure, maybe we will get a double arc. But I feel more bad for Juwon because she is so good and natural to me, and I think none of the other girls are as naturally charismatic as she is, so I'm sad that Mnet seems to want her to be forgettable.
The line up mnet def want :
Jiyoon
Jimin
Saebi
Mai
Sarang
Koko
The first members I thinl will be eliminted is Juwon from lack of popularity, and then Yuju, Sujung and Gyuri.
I think they want to eliminate Yuju bc they never had her in the line up (that's why they put her to elimination by choosing Mai over her while she always did a great job but they try to make her look like she is average (lack of screentime, lack of parts). But she got a lots of votes, I think more than expected, so that's why they went so hard on her last episode.
Sujung was not really popular but I think now she will fall even more.
For Gyuri, idk, I don't see her debuting, I think mnet won't keep her until the final.
Then talking about Fuko and Jungeun. They are at great risk of being eliminated. I think they will make it to the final. Fuko had a lot of screentime indeed but these last episodes I feel like mnet and they judges are playing the invisibility card... Like everyone knows how talented she is but they take her for granted and it feels like she got tons of fans while I don't think she's that popular in Korea. I see her pulling a Keita or a Yurina this season and I hope I'm wrong because she is my absolute fav.
And for Jungeun hear me out. She started being the star, the it girl of the show, having so many privileges, and she slowly started to have less and less screentime and now evil editing. I think it's because she didn't meet their expectation as the center of the show. She literally started as the center of their signal song, being first everywhere etc. She was the Sung Hanbin of this season. But idk I feel like it was not the same effect globally in the kpop sphere. Like mnet probably thinks she don't have that it girl effect she needs to sell and support that role. That's why they pushed her aside and took Saebi as their new center (or even Jimin). Here are my thoughts :)
My fav line up would be :
Fuko
Saebi
Jungeun
Koko
And then maybe Juwon and Yuju
Is the group getting managed under wakeone or blacklabel? Coz if its wakeone I will lower my expectation. Knowing what they had done to kepler. Lmao
@@jayem9038They will be under wakeone and their producer will be teddy.Thats why they have a collaboration with the blacklabel.Teddy is debuting his own group.Jiyoon for example was an ex the black label trainee,which is why the producer teddy himself wants her in the group so badly,since she fits his style perfectly and he knows her strengths.Jungeun could still debut if the feedback and overall votes favor her but international fans don’t prioritize vocals anyways or else she would be in every of y‘alls too 3.Jiyoon and jungeun would be a deadly combo that we might not even get…
@@guinnmyahslaysstaymad its strange if teddy really like jiyoon then why not let her join his blacklabel group? But anyways I just hope fuko, jiyoon and jungeun will debut. This 3 in the vocal line will be amazing.
@@jayem9038 because she probably doesn’t fit well with the remaining debut members?Hikaru also didn’t debut with xg due to various of reasons but her company still sent her to gp999
jiyoon was their last liked in the first half so maybe we should give part 2 a lil more time to judge on who they want now
The part I find annoying is that Jiyoons actions and attitude were worse than what Sujung said, she basically said that she just didn't want to help Mai because it s a competition which i bet some were thinking, but everyone turned on her so fast and are making all these hateful edits. Like be forrreal, Sujung is is so talented yet they forgave Jiyoon when she's still beefing with Jungeun over nothing. I love them both, but yall turn on people so fast like they are kids, they are teens.
Jiyoon never been worse, Jiyoon got every right to be upset while sujung was mocking another contestant, it’s ur choice if u didn’t want to help, but why mocking?
@@wakasa._.1over I’ve watched the clips back multiple times, she never mocked her. She was distinguishing how the two tones come off based off of where your placement is when singing. Y’all will say anything at this point
@@lrobertdavisl No, Sujung was my 4th pick since preshow but I gotta be objective both of her and yuju were laughing so stop making excuses. And comparing this to the jiyoon situation is weird
@@wakasa._.1over rewatch it lmao, the whole convo was about how sujung knew the issue but didn’t wanna help which is valid, shes from a dance background, that’s how we are. It’s an individual competition, can I agree she should’ve helped, yes, but they laughed about how she knew the issue but didn’t tell mai, nothing was her making fun of how she sang. But hey this gonna be my last response cuz seems like you don’t wanna admit it lol
Yeah, this definitely was her downfall. There’s no way she’s debuted after this.
bro, i justify sujung's 'betrayal' coz mai's already far in the competition and idk why. y'all remember her drama perf, right?
the lineup mnet wants
jeemin
koko
saebi
jiyoon
sarang
mai
the lineup i want !!
1. jeemin
2. jungeun
3. jiyoon
4. saebi
5. fuko
6. yuju
gyuri / sarang (hopefully add a 7th member) or to replace yuju if she doesn't debut :")
I don't think mnet cares to have mai in the lineup.
I'd say the clear ones they want are
jeemin, koko, saebi, jiyoon, and sarang. 6th is a tossup but mai doesn't seem to be a favorite anymore.
When they revealed the reason of the 'feud' between Jiyoon and Jungeun I was flumoxed & mad. How can they seriously be pushing the Jiyoon is grown now and painting her in a positive light when they just showed a video showing how petty she is ??? Did they think that ppl forgot the first vote was a vote about who the girls wanted to work with and that during this mission Jiyoon was the WORST team player endangering her team when she refused to train and threw her tantrum ? Nobody voted for her so why spin the evil editing onto Jungeun only ?
I was willing to ignore the angel editing toward Jiyoon (likethe Sarang one) UNTIL they decided to put down Jungeun to achieve it. What bullshit.
About the audience vote, when I watched their dance formation more closely I got the feeling that ppl thougth Saebi was singing Jungeun's part. That's the only reason I can see her votes being this low.
If the juges didn't give at least 90 points to Jungeun I'll be even MORE pissed. Because with this and the evil editing, clearly they're writing her out to only have new Rosé in their group.
it was evil edited. if you say it for jungeun then you have to say it for jiyoon too. your judging with double standarts
They gave 85 to fuko so I would imagine a similar rank to jungeun, we need these 3 vocalist tho
@@chaesflwrs And how exactly was Jiyoon evil edited this episode ?
Or even any episode since the Eye Nose Lip episode ?
There's no double standard in what I'm saying. Jungeun is actively being evil edited while Jiyoon is being Angel edited. Period.
It's just stupid for them to use this clip of Jiyoon to evil edit Jungeun and shift the blame to her because it only highlight a bad side of Jiyoon they've been trying to make everyone forget since the Eye Nose Lip episode.
I don't know what you're calling double standard in what I'm saying.
@@123ale27 I agree and I hope so. I keep voting Jungeun and Fuko. I'm afraid for Fuko because she was nonexistent this episode and for Jungeun when I see what what ppl are saying about k-netizens and colorism being at play again. For Jiyoon it's pretty obvious production is doing everything for her to be in the final line-up so it won't be surprising to see her debut.
@ChulipsChu Let's be fr here. Originally it was jiyoon who was given the evil edit and jungeun who was given the hero edit. It just backfired on mnet as jiyoon became really popular while jungeun very undeservedly failed to hit it big with the knetz as mnet originally thought. So basically both of them at this point have had their fair share of evil and angel editing so I don't think it's fair to just call it out now
lets be real. this is already part 2 and they have to be extra hard on the contestants because they're all good. I actually think that all of the criticism they're giving is valid.
justice for our Jennie looking girly
Who?
@@Kiwipoi the one on the thumbnail
@@Heshu-i2t sujung? lmfaoo idt she looks like jennie at all
@@sanainthesky
She does have Jennie Kim vibes on her looks. no matter how much you try to mock her my opinion won't change.
See for yourself. we got a lot of dupes on that show
Mai - Yeji
Sujung - Jennie
Park Yeeun - Jisoo
Jiyoon - Rosé
I'm not saying they're trying to be them but the visual standard is clear...
there's also a girl that reminds me of Garam so much but I can't remember her name
^
She was the one to control the "motor bike" part during the 'Rain on me' GROUND performance.
the visual preferences from that show were
Blackpink
Ive
Iz*one
Le sserafim
Itzy
[...]
@@Heshu-i2t im NOT mocking anyone lmfaoo chill girlie people have different opinions and the garam lookalike i think you're talking about is yuju but i have no idea how you see a resemblance between them
you are kinda rude lol. sarang is literally 16, and a TRAINEE. ofcourse she was disappointed that she couldn't hit the note infront of a LIVE audience. it was NOT a voice crack?? she hit the note in the practice, so we know she can do it. you clearly HATE a minor, i don't care if you're not personally connected to a contestant, thta's fine. but being "least affectionate" of sarang for JUDGE comments is really funny. and she got a low score, idk what you want from her? she didn't fuck up the performance so why should she get even lower scores?
i understand whr ur coming frm but theres no need to get so mad , the person was just sharing their opinions
@@yansxe_ she wasn't just sharing her opinion tho. she was shitting on sarang consistently and held her accountable for the score the 3rd party gave her. and acted like sarang fucked up the performance, when she performed great until that note.
I think the final trainees have already been picked.
Since they're only picking 6: it's going to be Fuko (leader), jeemin (all rounder), mai (visual), saebi (center), koko (dancer, rapper), jiyoon (main vocal). I think this is the line up they're going to end up picking. They're probably thinking that since Jungeun is young, it's okay to drop her, there's still gonna be chance for her. But honestly, for a trainee to fail in a survival competition, producers will step back and think that she's not good enough since she failed once. Although for me, if I'm going to drop someone, it will be Jeemin. She hasn't really tapped into her besr performance. In dancing, Koko and saebi are better than her, in rapping, Koko and yuju is better than her, In singing, Jungeun and jiyoon is better than her and even in leadership, Fuko is better than her. She's always second best than someone so if someone should be dropped, it should be her.
Su jung is just sujung. If she's with street dancers' show of course having that kind of attitude is still good. But with kpop survival shows it's neeee
when is ep 9??
Definitivamente de acuerdo contigo ya mnet hara derrumbar a cualquiera de las talentosas chicas para que entre una en especial pena da que una de las mejores no entrara una por que la ocupara una persona
I agree sarang higher than fuko but not jungeun higher than sarang
yuju having the last parts like what
0:29 me to bestie me to(first an)
your rlly biased actually.
"these are the same situations" no tf they werent. jiyoon was leader and jungeun wasnt
I don't agree with what she said either but I don't she's biased like imo jungeun was just trying to help saebi and since they only had 12 hours to learn everything she was stressed
Well, I also don't think Jungeun is a good fix in this line up. Since she's a great vocalist, it's best if she debuts with an all vocal group member like the ones they did with NMIXX or AESPA.