@@krogers9807 idk how you’re interpreting it, but the way i’m hearing it she’s pointing out the negative effects of toxic masculinity and how that can make you afraid of being “weaker”? “real men don’t eat cause they’re above that dammit,” “little boys cry and look around for comfort and always get what they want”
I started tearing up when she said "real men don't eat because they're above that damnit" this song is about misogyny but as a transmasc it truly hits hard
That's probably both anyway, idk if you've noticed but a lot of trans men want to be the skinny smoking dude who never sleeps and that always leads to an ED.
As a female feminist this so clearly explains how misogyny affects both women AND men and it also says about toxic femininity a bit and I'm glad mitski made this song because it will help me prove my point on why the world needs feminism and equality
I interpreted this song as a young female woman growing up wanting male validation. As a kid love was never given to me by my parents since they were busy with their own lives. I always seemed tired each out to older men to find that love that I was craving. Now as a 15 year old I can’t tell the difference between real men and little boys. They’re all the same. Little boys grow up to be men. Showing my body for validation to young boys that grow up to be “real men” are all just the same.
@@porcelanbab a child that has been through trauma lol age doesn’t dignify what a person can or can’t go through. You grow wise from trauma if you’ve experienced it
being woman is being hold to the standards for both men and women. if men can't cry, can't be vulnerable, can't fail; women can't cry, can't be vulnerable, can't fail but it's twice as harsh.
this is literally my relationship in a nutshell. I craved so much for male validation, especially from my ex. I craved and craved and craved. not just male attention, but literally everyone else because as a kid, I was never good enough so I'd do everything whatever my partner tells me to. the "honestly sir all I wanna do is get naked in front of you" hits so hard especially since that's where I'm always getting complimented at, by my ex. I'm happy I let go because I realized he was toxic and gaslighting me.
As a trans boy I relate to this in the sense of pretending to be really masculine to be "accepted" by other boys, who are basically the little boy™ that think they are the real men™
This perfectly encapsulates how it’s like for a lot of women growing up. In high school I struggled with these same feelings and luckily grew out of it in college. It sucks to see young girls still going through this
this song for me is honestly how i feel about my gender. sometimes i feel like a guy, sometimes i feel like a girl, and when i feel like i'm in between, i feel like i'm misunderstood.
oh you're welcome!! i've just begun a few more so thanks so much for the support :)) feel free to let me know if there are any other songs you want specifically!!
damn i thought that was about trauma (i mean real men shouldn’t cry and all that shit and she sings about that she is this kind of person and it all can be caused because of trauma) and reaching for validation of her actions
This song hits hard when you’re over with having a relationship with little boys and looking for real men, in the end, no matter who it is, you’re an object, always
I feel like this song is about someone in a bad relationship with this guy who's toxic or something. Listen I don't know much about mitski songs so this is my personal opinion. The first two lines is her saying how real men don't need other people to deal with their problems and just keep it to themselves, they "suck it in." She would be the same and keeping everything to herself an not asking for help when she needs it. Then she says that "real men don't flinch or bleed in public" as in they're 'brave' and don't get hurt easily possibly by others. "I think I'm a real man" is her saying she does all these things 'real men' do which in her case isn't good. She then proceeds to talk about 'little boys' saying they "cry and look around for comfort and always get what they want." This could be the guy she's dating constantly nagging her about his own problems and maybe manipulating her into doing whatever he wants to 'feel better.' "Little boys see toys and say I can take that" Toys could be seen as girls and when deciding to date, he'd probably think it wasn't so hard to have a girlfriend and puts little to no effort in their relationship. "You are my little boy" is her talking about her boyfriend saying he's just her little boy. And maybe that she's more of a man than he could ever be. The first chorus is about her probably wanting her bf to take some time to appreciate her and say "I love you' or just a complement. "Real men keep cool in the face of a fire" means that when ever there is an intense situation, real men are calm and don't panic. Maybe she keeps cool when her bf gets mad as he would be the 'fire'. "Go down with the ship" could mean that she would take the blame for everything her bf does wrong or when he gets mad. The next two lines about real men being above eatingcould mean that they don't need to eat to become stronger because they already are. Her becoming a 'real man' means that she wants to prove her strength and that she doesn't need help with her problem. By the second chorus, her getting naked could represent her finally telling her bf about her feelings and how she feels about his actions in hopes that he'll understand and try to change his ways. Her calling him 'sir' could be hope that he'll finally be a man and start putting in effort. The next line about how little boys make her feel lovely for a little while could mean that (MAYBE) only during intercourse is she appreciated and loved. Finally the last line about her little boy saying that now he wants her after she's had enough and maybe doesn't care what he does which would be, "go ahead do it, do it" Some lines could maybe suggest she was being physically abused like her wanted to get stronger or prove that she's okay to others. A lot of people say that this song is about misogyny and maybe that could be the surface and ig I may have looked too deep into this but whatever.
This song kinda reminds me of how much I don’t show my emotions. Like..I don’t cry. I try not to let people see me sad or vulnerable in any way. I only really let people see me when I’m happy or angry. Due to past experiences, I feel unsafe showing people my more vulnerable side- It always makes me think they’re gonna stab me in the back at some point. So this song kinda feels relatable. I’m tough on the outside, but on the inside I just want comfort and validation, but I’m just too scared to really show that. Now I only show my vulnerable side to people I really know I can trust- Like my significant others. Not my family though- they’re kind of apart of my trust issues 😭
as a transmasc i so relate to this song so much i want to be seen as a “real” man because i dont pass very much and i relate so hard to “real men dont eat because theyre above that dammit” because i have a bad habit of not eating i just love this song so much i love mitski so much
When I was a little kid I want all types of attention including male validation, here I am now a depressed trans male whose been molested two times and whose been admitted into a mental hospital for trying to commit suicide 🙁
Made me realise i cant deny my ED and trans identity anymore, i guess i really want to be a skinny tall guy and that it wasnt just an inside joke with myself lmao
the demiboy in me is screaming, despite knowing the real meaning behind the song. both are fitting, yet I guess it's up to the listener to decide what they feel when listening.
Real men don't need other people, and Real men suck it in Real men don't flinch or bleed in public Oh, I think I'm a real man Little boys cry and look around for comfort And always get what they want Little boys see toys and say "I can take that!" Oh, you are my little boy Though honestly, sir All I wanna do is get naked in front of you So you can look me up and down and tell me "Well done, girl, you're looking good" Real men keep cool in the face of a fire Go down with the ship And real men don't eat 'Cause they're above that, damn it Oh, I'm gonna be a real man Though honestly, sir All I wanna do is get naked in front of you So you can look me up and down And give me your love for being so good But little boys hold me, color me Praise me, make me feel lovely For a little while So little boy, say you want me 'Cause, well, I can't take it Go ahead Do it, do it
i feel like its about how women won't be saved from female conditioning and socialization even if they partake in traditionally masculine behaviors or smthn idk
jesus christ some of you people in this comment section are so blatantly hypocritical. I NEVER see this energy towards non-WOC relating to mitski’s songs “your best american girl” and “strawberry blond”, yall always argue it’s for everyone. But now when transmascs (not even just trans men!) say they can relate it’s a problem…y’all are WEIRD.
@@aerinaceleste what? I’m not hating the song and I’m not being rude, And I like what the song meaning is trying to show, I’m just saying it makes me uncomfortable but I don’t hate it
the amount of trans-identified females under the comment section is honestly concerning, if not only embarrassing. even after listening to this song which is literally about identifying with male pattern behaviour because of public pressure. and they still think it's because they are a boy but they were born in the wrong body, not because they're victims of patriarchy. yeah let's just identify with our oppressors, instead of thinking critically. you can cut your hair short and wear "hyper-masculine" clothes, pursue "masculine" hobbies, have "masculine" personality traits and still be your real self, it's okay to be yourself. those things are not even masculine substantially, it's just society want you to believe that.
you're right, for those people yeah, but not for those who are dysphoric. like, no matter what shit i wear or do or like it won't change my body, i won't ever have a dick, will always have breasts and a uterus and ovaries if i Don't actively pursue transition. i wont have arm hair, won't have a beard, my fat will be around my hips and my waists and my chest. think what you're saying only applies to people who transition to escape the patriarchy
Real men don't need other people, and Real men suck it in Real men don't flinch or bleed in public Oh, I think I'm a real man Little boys cry and look around for comfort And always get what they want Little boys see toys and say "I can take that!" Oh, you are my little boy Though honestly, sir All I wanna do is get naked in front of you So you can look me up and down and tell me "Well done, girl, you're looking good" Real men keep cool in the face of a fire Go down with the ship And real men don't eat 'Cause they're above that, damn it Oh, I'm gonna be a real man Though honestly, sir All I wanna do is get naked in front of you So you can look me up and down And give me your love for being so good But little boys hold me, color me Praise me, make me feel lovely For a little while So little boy, say you want me 'Cause, well, I can't take it Go ahead Do it, do it
damn can’t believe mitski ended toxic masculinity and misogyny with this song, she’s such an inspiration
what are you talking about? if anything I glorify more than ever masculine toxic traits
@@krogers9807 idk how you’re interpreting it, but the way i’m hearing it she’s pointing out the negative effects of toxic masculinity and how that can make you afraid of being “weaker”? “real men don’t eat cause they’re above that dammit,” “little boys cry and look around for comfort and always get what they want”
@@una9906 maybe but they are not real men...
@@krogers9807 who’s “they”?
@@una9906 those little crying soft boys that are so common nowadays
I started tearing up when she said "real men don't eat because they're above that damnit" this song is about misogyny but as a transmasc it truly hits hard
That's probably both anyway, idk if you've noticed but a lot of trans men want to be the skinny smoking dude who never sleeps and that always leads to an ED.
Omg i'm also a trasman i can understnd the pain
As a transfem I give you my solidarity, brother.
yea im also a transmasc with an ed
FRRR
As a female feminist this so clearly explains how misogyny affects both women AND men and it also says about toxic femininity a bit and I'm glad mitski made this song because it will help me prove my point on why the world needs feminism and equality
I interpreted this song as a young female woman growing up wanting male validation. As a kid love was never given to me by my parents since they were busy with their own lives. I always seemed tired each out to older men to find that love that I was craving. Now as a 15 year old I can’t tell the difference between real men and little boys. They’re all the same. Little boys grow up to be men. Showing my body for validation to young boys that grow up to be “real men” are all just the same.
is nana
you're still a kid lol
@@porcelanbab a child that has been through trauma lol age doesn’t dignify what a person can or can’t go through. You grow wise from trauma if you’ve experienced it
@@LiziLSizzle that's not even what i meant lol i don't give a fuck about your trauma
@@porcelanbab wtf is wrong with you
"Me? Oh yeah I'm doing great!" I say while changing my Discord status to a line from Real Men by Mitski.
HELPHELPHELPHELP PLEASSSSSE THIS IS TOO ACCURATE FOR A RANDOM RUclips COMMENT
WHY DID I DO THIS
lmao currently have “😞 Listening to Mitski” as my status
drop the discord/hj
ME BUT ITS ONE FROM FIRST LOVE/LATE SPRING
her voice is painfully beautiful!!!
Mitski is my fucking religion
69th like😏
Amen.
Same
Mitskism
@@puppyysniper I'm interested
being woman is being hold to the standards for both men and women. if men can't cry, can't be vulnerable, can't fail; women can't cry, can't be vulnerable, can't fail but it's twice as harsh.
Most hilarious thing I've heard. Twice as harsh? Lol.
@@kabosune9097 Yes.
Me: im fine
Also me: listens to the line about not eating over and over again
The fact that the verses is literally how I was socialised. "Thanks" father.
this is literally my relationship in a nutshell. I craved so much for male validation, especially from my ex. I craved and craved and craved. not just male attention, but literally everyone else because as a kid, I was never good enough so I'd do everything whatever my partner tells me to. the "honestly sir all I wanna do is get naked in front of you" hits so hard especially since that's where I'm always getting complimented at, by my ex. I'm happy I let go because I realized he was toxic and gaslighting me.
i know everyone is talking abt the not eating line but what about the “ real men keep cool in the face of a fire” it hits so hard omfg
"real men don't eat because they're above that, damn it. oh i'm gonna be a real man." yeah
This is the first time I’ve heard this song. I think it’s the second song I’ve cried to while listening to it for the first time.
As a trans boy I relate to this in the sense of pretending to be really masculine to be "accepted" by other boys, who are basically the little boy™ that think they are the real men™
Same my dude same
@@qvteryy1781 ?
@@qvteryy1781 yes😎
Gayyy
SAMEEEE
This perfectly encapsulates how it’s like for a lot of women growing up. In high school I struggled with these same feelings and luckily grew out of it in college. It sucks to see young girls still going through this
I just think the part abt wanting to be told u look good is relateable
SAME
this song for me is honestly how i feel about my gender. sometimes i feel like a guy, sometimes i feel like a girl, and when i feel like i'm in between, i feel like i'm misunderstood.
And tell me "well done girl, you're looking good"
thank u for making this!! : )
oh you're welcome!! i've just begun a few more so thanks so much for the support :)) feel free to let me know if there are any other songs you want specifically!!
@@lennobiwankenobi honestly ive had a hard time finding lyric videos for mitski songs, so really, youre doing the gods work here. : )
@@shostakovichs9922 ugh i know it made me so sad!! i'll do my best uwu
This would be a good metal cover
this song is amazing stan mitski
This song is so good thanks
damn i thought that was about trauma (i mean real men shouldn’t cry and all that shit and she sings about that she is this kind of person and it all can be caused because of trauma) and reaching for validation of her actions
such a good song!!! thank u for making this :-)
it's what Queen Mitski deserves
For me this song hits because I based everything and my happiness on compliments😭especially men’s comments
and real men, don't eat, cause they're above that dammit, oh i'm gonna be a real man.
me: wAhHhHHHH
thank you so much!! i loved the video :))
i love it!!!!
ice cream and kitten i’m glad :)
This song hits hard when you’re over with having a relationship with little boys and looking for real men, in the end, no matter who it is, you’re an object, always
i love this song
Me: Nah I'm a girl
Also me: I kin this
Lmao same 😭
It's about female experience with toxic masculinity and male validation so..
I feel like this song is about someone in a bad relationship with this guy who's toxic or something. Listen I don't know much about mitski songs so this is my personal opinion.
The first two lines is her saying how real men don't need other people to deal with their problems and just keep it to themselves, they "suck it in." She would be the same and keeping everything to herself an not asking for help when she needs it.
Then she says that "real men don't flinch or bleed in public" as in they're 'brave' and don't get hurt easily possibly by others.
"I think I'm a real man" is her saying she does all these things 'real men' do which in her case isn't good.
She then proceeds to talk about 'little boys' saying they "cry and look around for comfort and always get what they want." This could be the guy she's dating constantly nagging her about his own problems and maybe manipulating her into doing whatever he wants to 'feel better.'
"Little boys see toys and say I can take that" Toys could be seen as girls and when deciding to date, he'd probably think it wasn't so hard to have a girlfriend and puts little to no effort in their relationship.
"You are my little boy" is her talking about her boyfriend saying he's just her little boy. And maybe that she's more of a man than he could ever be.
The first chorus is about her probably wanting her bf to take some time to appreciate her and say "I love you' or just a complement.
"Real men keep cool in the face of a fire" means that when ever there is an intense situation, real men are calm and don't panic. Maybe she keeps cool when her bf gets mad as he would be the 'fire'. "Go down with the ship" could mean that she would take the blame for everything her bf does wrong or when he gets mad.
The next two lines about real men being above eatingcould mean that they don't need to eat to become stronger because they already are. Her becoming a 'real man' means that she wants to prove her strength and that she doesn't need help with her problem.
By the second chorus, her getting naked could represent her finally telling her bf about her feelings and how she feels about his actions in hopes that he'll understand and try to change his ways. Her calling him 'sir' could be hope that he'll finally be a man and start putting in effort.
The next line about how little boys make her feel lovely for a little while could mean that (MAYBE) only during intercourse is she appreciated and loved.
Finally the last line about her little boy saying that now he wants her after she's had enough and maybe doesn't care what he does which would be, "go ahead do it, do it"
Some lines could maybe suggest she was being physically abused like her wanted to get stronger or prove that she's okay to others. A lot of people say that this song is about misogyny and maybe that could be the surface and ig I may have looked too deep into this but whatever.
This song kinda reminds me of how much I don’t show my emotions. Like..I don’t cry. I try not to let people see me sad or vulnerable in any way. I only really let people see me when I’m happy or angry. Due to past experiences, I feel unsafe showing people my more vulnerable side- It always makes me think they’re gonna stab me in the back at some point. So this song kinda feels relatable. I’m tough on the outside, but on the inside I just want comfort and validation, but I’m just too scared to really show that. Now I only show my vulnerable side to people I really know I can trust- Like my significant others. Not my family though- they’re kind of apart of my trust issues 😭
ur not alone :(
yeah i relate to this so much
as a transmasc i so relate to this song so much i want to be seen as a “real” man because i dont pass very much and i relate so hard to “real men dont eat because theyre above that dammit” because i have a bad habit of not eating i just love this song so much i love mitski so much
As a cis-male who hates toxic masculinity, this song makes me uncomfortable. But I understand the meaning and it makes me even more uncomfortable.
it’s supposed to.
welcome to the life of a trans man and both the toxic masculinity and misogyny we go through
@@drae4526 what did they say?
it not looks like you hate toxic masculinity
@@tinyspiderfrommars2440 and how would you know that?
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ik this abt toxic masculinity but tbh I feel like this resonates with me as being lesbian and wanting to fit to the standards of a man for other woman
Same
Listening to this as a trans man >>>
listening to this as a woman >>>>>>
listening to this as a transmasc >>>
this hurts different when you have trauma of being associated with being a boy
Wow vocals
When I was a little kid I want all types of attention including male validation, here I am now a depressed trans male whose been molested two times and whose been admitted into a mental hospital for trying to commit suicide 🙁
HURTS!
Nice video! Thank you!
"I'm gonna be a real men"
ik this aint about trans guys, but holy fuck OW. mitski is so good at making her songs so universally relatable
I think of hachi from the nana anime :(
Holy shit....
Genius ❤️ the lyrics describe the war between the man & the woman brilliantly. Reminds me of Sheela na Gig by PJ Harvey ❤️💣💚💥🖤
as a bi trans boy, this hits hard in too many aspects
oh to be wanted
well at first im offended by the sing because im basically a boy and now i grew into a real men bcs what mitski describe it its facts bro.
This song is not to bash men
Bro i wish i didnt have to eat- but i have to to gain muscle. it sucks ahahah
is that southern california in the background? i live there and it looks really familiar
sure is! I've lived in socal my whole life ❤
Me who doesn't know my gender: yes, relatable. 😋😋
Made me realise i cant deny my ED and trans identity anymore, i guess i really want to be a skinny tall guy and that it wasnt just an inside joke with myself lmao
the demiboy in me is screaming, despite knowing the real meaning behind the song. both are fitting, yet I guess it's up to the listener to decide what they feel when listening.
❤
12k views but only 17 comments? rude
Real men don't need other people, and
Real men suck it in
Real men don't flinch or bleed in public
Oh, I think I'm a real man
Little boys cry and look around for comfort
And always get what they want
Little boys see toys and say "I can take that!"
Oh, you are my little boy
Though honestly, sir
All I wanna do is get naked in front of you
So you can look me up and down and tell me
"Well done, girl, you're looking good"
Real men keep cool in the face of a fire
Go down with the ship
And real men don't eat
'Cause they're above that, damn it
Oh, I'm gonna be a real man
Though honestly, sir
All I wanna do is get naked in front of you
So you can look me up and down
And give me your love for being so good
But little boys hold me, color me
Praise me, make me feel lovely
For a little while
So little boy, say you want me
'Cause, well, I can't take it
Go ahead
Do it, do it
trans men with EDs who hate crying but cry all the time:
i feel like its about how women won't be saved from female conditioning and socialization even if they partake in traditionally masculine behaviors or smthn idk
God 1.25x hits different 😮
u guys don´t understand this song at all
OH MY GOSH! Shes bald, shes bald and shes torturing people who have hair- alex
This song: *exists*
Trans men 🤝 women
I wonder why.
@@glaptoper
Maybe because trans men grew up as girls and the female experience getting exposed to toxic masculinity, hope that helps.
not for nothing but lana del rey should cover it
you're right and you should say it
jesus christ some of you people in this comment section are so blatantly hypocritical. I NEVER see this energy towards non-WOC relating to mitski’s songs “your best american girl” and “strawberry blond”, yall always argue it’s for everyone. But now when transmascs (not even just trans men!) say they can relate it’s a problem…y’all are WEIRD.
Hello fellow trans mascs
my trans masc self cannot do this today.
transmascs and their thousands of problems 🤝 this song
i could seriously go on for hours abt how this song makes me feel and how it relates to so many of my issues
this song isny about transmascs. Its about mysogyny
@@drknotes ik its abt that, and i never said it was /about/ transmascs, just that we vibe with it/relate to it lol
@@maxrat8745 how do u relate to it😭
@@drknoteskeep this same energy with your best american girl being about women of color’s experience🙏🏽
This song just makes me so uncomfortable tbh, like I just can’t
then scroll, who’s stopping you?
@@aerinaceleste what? I’m not hating the song and I’m not being rude, And I like what the song meaning is trying to show, I’m just saying it makes me uncomfortable but I don’t hate it
@@Mamisguns sorry, wasnt trying to be rude either. its fine if it makes you uncomfortable, but you can just ignore it or scroll.
hear me out: shoto todoroki and tsukishima kei
the amount of trans-identified females under the comment section is honestly concerning, if not only embarrassing. even after listening to this song which is literally about identifying with male pattern behaviour because of public pressure. and they still think it's because they are a boy but they were born in the wrong body, not because they're victims of patriarchy. yeah let's just identify with our oppressors, instead of thinking critically. you can cut your hair short and wear "hyper-masculine" clothes, pursue "masculine" hobbies, have "masculine" personality traits and still be your real self, it's okay to be yourself. those things are not even masculine substantially, it's just society want you to believe that.
I sadly agree
uhh
you're right, for those people yeah, but not for those who are dysphoric. like, no matter what shit i wear or do or like it won't change my body, i won't ever have a dick, will always have breasts and a uterus and ovaries if i Don't actively pursue transition. i wont have arm hair, won't have a beard, my fat will be around my hips and my waists and my chest. think what you're saying only applies to people who transition to escape the patriarchy
damn thank you, you just cured my whole dysphoria.💀
@@dvnteluv 100% they're a terf. Trans identified female is terf slang. Ignore them
Ahlan Bika sister, this song is harammmm pls take it down
SHUKRON
MASALEMA
-Kathyelis Aguasviva
I’m not a real man
Real men don't need other people, and
Real men suck it in
Real men don't flinch or bleed in public
Oh, I think I'm a real man
Little boys cry and look around for comfort
And always get what they want
Little boys see toys and say "I can take that!"
Oh, you are my little boy
Though honestly, sir
All I wanna do is get naked in front of you
So you can look me up and down and tell me
"Well done, girl, you're looking good"
Real men keep cool in the face of a fire
Go down with the ship
And real men don't eat
'Cause they're above that, damn it
Oh, I'm gonna be a real man
Though honestly, sir
All I wanna do is get naked in front of you
So you can look me up and down
And give me your love for being so good
But little boys hold me, color me
Praise me, make me feel lovely
For a little while
So little boy, say you want me
'Cause, well, I can't take it
Go ahead
Do it, do it
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