It sucks but hey, one day we’ll find our way back. The sad part is I don’t care if we get blown away, just to see the the Jets in the super bowl would satisfy me.
VERY GOOD. Really good footage from different angles. So many Exciting plays. Started watching in 967 and the Jets and Raiders were my favorite teams. Rarely watched the NFL outside of the local Rams games. The AFL was so much more wide open offensively.
The second-down play remains one of the least talk-about controversies in pro football history. If Mathis had leaped over the top or held ball the ball out forward, he probably would have scored without debate. Appeared to me that he was at the goal line, anyway. Would have the Jets have beaten the Vikings in SB4? Good chance. And that would have changed the legacies of several Jets players and coaches to no small degree.
@RayManzarekRocks, The Vikings? I seriously doubt they would have even gotten the chance, as a team not as good as the '68 iteration would have been unlikely to beat the Raiders in Oakland to get to the Super Bowl.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 The Chiefs went to Oakland and stole their lunch money in the divisional round. The Raiders had 240 total yards and four turnovers that game. Believe the defending champs would have done the something similar given the chance.
@@RayManzarekRocks , The Chiefs outplayed Oakland, but I don't think it was a case of stealing lunch money. I don't dispute the call on Taylor's catch (it would have been very difficult to correctly assess given the position of the play and the mass of players pressed together). However, if Kansas City had faced punting from the backline of their end zone, the game's course could have easily been different. Similarly, Lamonica was beat up by the Chiefs' DL, but the single wildcard of the uncommon way he was injured by Brown led in a significant way to his ineffectiveness in the second half and several of those turnovers. More to the point, though, the Jets weren't as good as they were the previous year. They barely hung on to beat the College All-Stars and won a division which it would be charitable to call mediocre. Ewbank cheaped out on bringing Talamini back and the team didn't have Sample any longer. In addition to injuries, they simply didn't perform at a champion's level. The team was a very good one, but nothing more. They finished fourth in the League defensively and fifth offensively. They were outplayed by the Raiders (at home) near the end of the season. I don't believe they would've pressed Lamonica on the road nearly as fiercely as Kansas City did, even putting aside Oakland's impetus for avenging '68's title game. Even if they managed to beat the Raiders, there was far less disparity in coaching acumen between Ewbank and Grant, as opposed to Stram versus the latter. I simply don't think the Jets would've posed nearly as much of a physically overpowering obstacle to Minnesota as the Chiefs did
@@mitchellmelkin4078 The Raiders were consistently o-ver-ra-ted in that era, and 1969 was no exception. Somehow, they nearly lost both games (1-0-1) versus the last-place Dolphins (3-11) and split against the second-year, last-place Bengals (4-9-1). Maybe that should have come as no surprise with a rookie head coach (Madden) who was in over his head. The Chiefs were the best of a forgettable final AFL season that had only three above-average players (Cook, Lamonica, Namath) at the quarterback position. The merger didn't come soon enough for the league.
After winning SB-3, Namath never won another game again against a team that had a +.500 record on that game day. When I fist heard that on an NFL films program, I thought that could not possibly be right. I thought in '69 he had to for sure, having won the AFL East. But sure enough after checking it out on Wiki it was correct. All 10 wins were against teams that were no better than .500. But to give credit due he won SB-3, and in '67 he was the only QB ever to pass for 4000 yds in a 14 game season.
What happened to Joe was not unlike what happens to many super athletes. The owners /management become satisfied with the revenue and instead of investing in quality players to continue the dominance ,they simply rely on "the man" to pull out wins.Also there is the strange behavior of the coaches forgetting that the men on the field actually do the winning.Curly Johnson and Randy Beverly just to name two were cut from the team the very next season (there is such a thing as chemistry).Even Maynard was eventually cut (maybe just old) not remembering that a team is a kind of community/family( I'm thinking about the self destruction of the 69-70 Chiefs). So Joe carried on but overall the team just wasn't as good as the Superbowl team.Too many gaps. This was a problem also with the Butkus/Sayers Bears.Super athletes yes but the team just not good.Old man Halas just didn't want to spend the money.
@@docsmithdc Also like Marino with the Dolphins later, just without the Super Bowl ring. They figured he would be enough, didn't develop a sufficient running game, among other things.
@@lucashenderson2775 Also the World Football League of 1974 and 1975...mostly 1975 was poaching NFL players and disrupting the rosters, especially Miami
Select Network shows were in color starting in the 50s but just a few. I remember Color in the mid to late 60s. Local programming would have been in color the mid to late 60s
Six time allstar and right guard Bob Talamini was not re-signed for the '69 season mainly because Weeb was cheap with salaries/ raises. Talamini WOULD have made a difference on the 1st and goal 4th quarter series.
Maybe, but he would have been facing Curley Culp, and the Chiefs defense was really fired up. They gave up six points against the defending champions, seven points against the team with pro football's best record, and seven points against the NFL champions.
Fair point but joe throwing 3 picks and a turnover on special teams didn’t help. Cheifs didn’t have to worry about don Maynard. Ribs were hurt and was playing with a broken foot. And was held to one catch. Jim Hudson and Johnny sample not being in the secondary hurt the Jets against Otis Taylor
It was a matter of inches, the 1969 New York Jets had a fabulous season, they were 10-4!!
“The Jets will enter the decade of the 1970’s with a bright future.” More false words were never spoken.
The Jets after 1969 entered into an existence of misery and despair
@@joedimaggio3687 Except for 1972 & 1974, when they were .500 and were quite competitive {i.e., Namath stayed upright all year & productive)
Who would’ve thought they would never come as close over 50 yrs later? Hard to believe.
It sucks but hey, one day we’ll find our way back. The sad part is I don’t care if we get blown away, just to see the the Jets in the super bowl would satisfy me.
The Jets would never be relevant again.
The Jets couldn’t have a home game @ Shea until the Mets season was over.😳🏈😳🏈😳🏈😳🏈
VERY GOOD. Really good footage from different angles. So many Exciting plays. Started watching in 967 and the Jets and Raiders were my favorite teams. Rarely watched the NFL outside of the local Rams games. The AFL was so much more wide open offensively.
The second-down play remains one of the least talk-about controversies in pro football history. If Mathis had leaped over the top or held ball the ball out forward, he probably would have scored without debate. Appeared to me that he was at the goal line, anyway. Would have the Jets have beaten the Vikings in SB4? Good chance. And that would have changed the legacies of several Jets players and coaches to no small degree.
@RayManzarekRocks, The Vikings? I seriously doubt they would have even gotten the chance, as a team not as good as the '68 iteration would have been unlikely to beat the Raiders in Oakland to get to the Super Bowl.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 The Chiefs went to Oakland and stole their lunch money in the divisional round. The Raiders had 240 total yards and four turnovers that game. Believe the defending champs would have done the something similar given the chance.
@@RayManzarekRocks , The Chiefs outplayed Oakland, but I don't think it was a case of stealing lunch money. I don't dispute the call on Taylor's catch (it would have been very difficult to correctly assess given the position of the play and the mass of players pressed together). However, if Kansas City had faced punting from the backline of their end zone, the game's course could have easily been different. Similarly, Lamonica was beat up by the Chiefs' DL, but the single wildcard of the uncommon way he was injured by Brown led in a significant way to his ineffectiveness in the second half and several of those turnovers.
More to the point, though, the Jets weren't as good as they were the previous year. They barely hung on to beat the College All-Stars and won a division which it would be charitable to call mediocre. Ewbank cheaped out on bringing Talamini back and the team didn't have Sample any longer.
In addition to injuries, they simply didn't perform at a champion's level. The team was a very good one, but nothing more. They finished fourth in the League defensively and fifth offensively. They were outplayed by the Raiders (at home) near the end of the season. I don't believe they would've pressed Lamonica on the road nearly as fiercely as Kansas City did, even putting aside Oakland's impetus for avenging '68's title game.
Even if they managed to beat the Raiders, there was far less disparity in coaching acumen between Ewbank and Grant, as opposed to Stram versus the latter. I simply don't think the Jets would've posed nearly as much of a physically overpowering obstacle to Minnesota as the Chiefs did
@@mitchellmelkin4078 The Raiders were consistently o-ver-ra-ted in that era, and 1969 was no exception. Somehow, they nearly lost both games (1-0-1) versus the last-place Dolphins (3-11) and split against the second-year, last-place Bengals (4-9-1). Maybe that should have come as no surprise with a rookie head coach (Madden) who was in over his head. The Chiefs were the best of a forgettable final AFL season that had only three above-average players (Cook, Lamonica, Namath) at the quarterback position. The merger didn't come soon enough for the league.
Where was that exhibition game against the Giants played? The Yale Bowl perhaps?
@drewnogy, Yes.
Preseason was taken more seriously back then.
5:50 "The educated toe of Jim Turner." I'm still trying to figure that statement out!
@brianarbenz7206, Well, it did a lot of matriculating all over many fields!!!
@@mitchellmelkin4078 Good one.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 And from 8 below zero at Green Bay to 80 above zero at Miami, it got many degrees.
"A matter of inches." Sounds like something that Joe Namath's GIRLFRIENDS used to say.....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Does ANYONE have the full game that they will post. Love to see it. I was at Shea that day but would love to see the full broadcast version.
22:44 unbelievable videography
The music is so out of tune at the beginning...ouch! Lol
After winning SB-3, Namath never won another game again against a team that had a +.500 record on that game day. When I fist heard that on an NFL films program, I thought that could not possibly be right. I thought in '69 he had to for sure, having won the AFL East. But sure enough after checking it out on Wiki it was correct. All 10 wins were against teams that were no better than .500. But to give credit due he won SB-3, and in '67 he was the only QB ever to pass for 4000 yds in a 14 game season.
1974 against Buffalo and Miami
What happened to Joe was not unlike what happens to many super athletes. The owners /management become satisfied with the revenue and instead of investing in quality players to continue the dominance ,they simply rely on "the man" to pull out wins.Also there is the strange behavior of the coaches forgetting that the men on the field actually do the winning.Curly Johnson and Randy Beverly just to name two were cut from the team the very next season (there is such a thing as chemistry).Even Maynard was eventually cut (maybe just old) not remembering that a team is a kind of community/family( I'm thinking about the self destruction of the 69-70 Chiefs). So Joe carried on but overall the team just wasn't as good as the Superbowl team.Too many gaps.
This was a problem also with the Butkus/Sayers Bears.Super athletes yes but the team just not good.Old man Halas just didn't want to spend the money.
@@docsmithdc Also like Marino with the Dolphins later, just without the Super Bowl ring. They figured he would be enough, didn't develop a sufficient running game, among other things.
@@lucashenderson2775 yes
@@lucashenderson2775 Also the World Football League of 1974 and 1975...mostly 1975 was poaching NFL players and disrupting the rosters, especially Miami
Mathis was in for the TD
Black and white? I guess that television was not in color back in 1969?
When did color tv start
Select Network shows were in color starting in the 50s but just a few. I remember Color in the mid to late 60s. Local programming would have been in color the mid to late 60s
1965-66 Tv season was the first year almost all TV programs were in color.
Just wondering why this video is not in color
@@barbaracaroll $$$$
Mathis was in on the second down play!
I always had a feeling he was in. If we had reply. Possibly that called gets overturned and it’s a td.
3:13-OJ couldn't slice and dice this defense.
The Jets sleep walked into the playoffs that year with the Bills..Pats and Fins so bad.
What happened to Joe's jersey in Houston? He's wearing the pre-season/practice white w/o name or sleeve striping.
Was it swiped?
Six time allstar and right guard Bob Talamini was not re-signed for the '69 season mainly because Weeb was cheap with salaries/ raises. Talamini WOULD have made a difference on the 1st and goal 4th quarter series.
Maybe, but he would have been facing Curley Culp, and the Chiefs defense was really fired up. They gave up six points against the defending champions, seven points against the team with pro football's best record, and seven points against the NFL champions.
Fair point but joe throwing 3 picks and a turnover on special teams didn’t help. Cheifs didn’t have to worry about don Maynard. Ribs were hurt and was playing with a broken foot. And was held to one catch. Jim Hudson and Johnny sample not being in the secondary hurt the Jets against Otis Taylor
No color version?lol
Yeah, you think the defending SB Champs could spring for color film.
Thanks for posting this! Yes Joe Willie maybe was a bit overrated but his Super Bowl will always be his legacy.
Should have just reached the ball over on the 2nd down run. Aghhh!!!!!
When you pause the run by Mathis and go frame by frame it looks to me like he broke the plain.