Super Rare KGM Edgelit Displays!!! Just Beautiful!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @SaberTail
    @SaberTail 3 года назад +64

    The way you can see each bit of acrylic light up from the side is really cool. Thanks for sharing!

  • @ElectraFlarefire
    @ElectraFlarefire 3 года назад +1

    I like the black foil between the layers to reduse the amount of spill from each segment. Going to have to remember this idea.

  • @juststeve5542
    @juststeve5542 3 года назад +15

    What fun! The side view is great!
    Now I'm thinking laser cutter/engraver and some thin acrylic sheets and you can make your own letters/fonts

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 3 года назад

      Yep! People have been doing this for a few years now to make “lixie” clocks.

    • @andymouse
      @andymouse 3 года назад

      Yeah, any font you like !....cheers.

  • @nikreichel2232
    @nikreichel2232 3 года назад +2

    Haha! It arrived! Finally! :)
    Nice you had all the necessary bulbs. I only had four but never tried it. So nice it all worked out!
    And look at that beautiful light conductors in action! Thanks for giving it the spotlight it deserves! :)

    • @musicrinda
      @musicrinda 3 года назад

      I assume that you are THE Nikolaus who gave them to Fran. I thank you for such a generous gift to share with us.

    • @nikreichel2232
      @nikreichel2232 3 года назад +1

      @@musicrinda Yes, indeed! You're all very welcome! It was actually a no-brainer since Fran is constantly showing rare displays in a devotional way ;)
      I'm just glad that the displays could be shown to as many interested folks as there are on this channel O:)

  • @jondhuse1549
    @jondhuse1549 3 года назад +19

    Oh, I like that a lot! It has been wonderful to see the many very creative approaches to non-analog displays... thanks so much for bringing this kind of thing to us all!

  • @mguarin912
    @mguarin912 3 года назад

    That music…omg, that’s awesome. Fran…you truly are amazing.

  • @wb5mct
    @wb5mct 3 года назад +22

    Wow, what a find! I repaired a very early electronic calculator using similar displays while in college. It was about twice the size of an IBM Selectric typewriter and made from discrete transistors. The displays were not as compact or as readable as these,

  • @EricAtRandom
    @EricAtRandom 3 года назад +16

    The amber light along the curved sides of the acrylic pieces reminds me of Clu's aesthetic in Tron: Legacy.

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 3 года назад +27

    Very cool!
    Naturally I immediately started thinking about what it would take to build my own.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 3 года назад +2

      Look at the “lixie” clocks people have made.

    • @mdrew44628
      @mdrew44628 3 года назад +5

      I was thinking the same thing......really just need thin acrylic, an engraver, a bender and a 3D printer.

    • @marc-andreservant201
      @marc-andreservant201 3 года назад +2

      This can be done with a laser engraver, but you'll need some sort of thin spacer between each acrylic piece to create an air gap, otherwise light will leak into surrounding digits. Bending wouldn't be required because in 2021 we have very small LEDs suitable for lighting the edge directly.

    • @mdrew44628
      @mdrew44628 3 года назад

      @@marc-andreservant201 3D printer will create just about anything you need to hold just about anything....keep the lighting board in line with the edge of the acrylic and a smidgen of an air gap.

  • @enquiryplay
    @enquiryplay 3 года назад +100

    I believe no human on earth has designed a wider repertoire of display drivers than Fran. If you can think of a display, you can bet your bottom dollar Fran can drive it.

    • @spagamoto
      @spagamoto 3 года назад +11

      "If they could get a washing machine to incandesce, my Fran could drive it."

    • @skunked42
      @skunked42 3 года назад +5

      Of course she just happens to already have a driver built...and can find it.

  • @spugintrntl
    @spugintrntl 3 года назад +6

    I love how each number reflects off of the previous pieces of acrylic. Kind of gives the numbers a 3d effect. Very cool!

  • @Paul_VK3HN
    @Paul_VK3HN 3 года назад +18

    Beautifully retro, daggy, and desireable all at the same time! No moving parts, no electronics in the actual display, just lamps and a clear acrylic duct of sorts! Where there's a will (to create a digital display) there's a way.

  • @olik136
    @olik136 3 года назад +4

    Wow TWK still exists- even the telephone number still is linked to them. You can also see that it was sold before 1993 since the ZIP code format got changed after that

  • @bandit4550
    @bandit4550 Год назад

    I find it so therapeutic to look at, bought a led-nixi clock a few years ago and love it😊

  • @OPTIONALWATCH
    @OPTIONALWATCH 3 года назад

    I never paid attention to the 007 timer. This is the first time I see one of these and I'm 50 years old. This is beautiful, thanks Fran for showing it.

  • @adventurecollectibles2370
    @adventurecollectibles2370 3 года назад +6

    Such a beautiful piece of engineering! Thanks for sharing it with us!

  • @AndroidFerret
    @AndroidFerret 3 года назад

    That those still work is a testament of awesome craftsmanship

  • @allenslucher8555
    @allenslucher8555 3 года назад

    Okay, this thing is a TRUE work of beauty!! I had NO IDEA how it worked, my brain just couldn't see how it worked. Then you turned it on, oh wow that is so cool!
    PS - I find myself randomly singing your Fran Song lol! Seriously, I will just bust out dancing and singing "....in the lab..... fixin' somethin'....... in the lab....." hehehe I love your channel, Fran! I learn SO much! Thank you for your devotion, I know you have been struggling with a finding a new audience. I believe you will find what you need :) Thanks again!!

  • @fepatton
    @fepatton 3 года назад

    As my son always says, people were geniuses back in the day. Love that it can be cleanly disassembled so the bulbs can be switched out. The light pipe design is so clever. Your driver is amazing too!

  • @isleifoterogarcia4478
    @isleifoterogarcia4478 3 года назад +17

    I watched "Goldfinger" back in the day. ( I was 10) After sometime I was able to watch it again when digital displays became popular and noticed this. I was wondering that those kind of displays were in use on 1964 and this version was more simple and neat that current nixies that appears to resemble. This movie is my favourite James Bond. The music was awsome.

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 3 года назад +1

      I know a guy who experimented with a 4-track and the (orchestral) Goldfinger theme cut from the vinyl. He played the theme backwards against itself at half speed, for example. His final project was "A Fistful of Goldfingers". Four instances of the same Goldfinger theme going at once with a slight time shift, slowed to half speed. It is a gigantic sound, just huge. I still wish I had my copy of the tape he made me.

  • @paulocavutto3601
    @paulocavutto3601 Год назад

    After forty years working with those things and still learning something new on your channel. Thanks.

  • @Maxxarcade
    @Maxxarcade 3 года назад

    When I was a kid, I had a Zenith stereo system with a "Digi-Lite" dial face. There were 2 layers, one for FM and one for AM. They worked just like this, but didn't light as evenly due to the length of each diffuser.

  • @MikeBenedict1
    @MikeBenedict1 3 года назад +6

    Pure gold (no pun intended). An iconic display for an iconic movie.

  • @XFolf
    @XFolf 3 года назад

    That's awesome. Amazing to see how much labor went into the assembly too, lots of machining steps, lots of hand fiddling.. beautiful.

  • @mogwopjr
    @mogwopjr 3 года назад +2

    I love the infinity mirror effect. It gives the digits depth, and substance. From certain viewing angles the numbers almost seem to be moving FAST, like speed lines :)
    Thank you for sharing Fran!

  • @optroncordian7863
    @optroncordian7863 3 года назад +6

    When I was a kid, my mom was working as a telephone exchange operator. It was an enterprise exchange for the nearby mines. A quasielectronic type, as they call it. She had that large control panel with lots of buttons and a three digit display for the number beibg dialed. It was of this type, only produced by some other manufacturer, I guess ...
    Memories ...

  • @DJPhantomRage
    @DJPhantomRage 3 года назад

    Unbelievable simple yet effective design.

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 3 года назад +1

    Really nice displays, In my early work years we had some of these in test equipment (Trend, UK made) pity I never thought to salvage them. I keep getting reminded whenever I see that Bond movie.
    They'd be real easy to fit LED's into them, without butchering them.

  • @TomMississippi
    @TomMississippi 3 года назад

    This is the first time I have seen a Fran video. Really cool stuff. thanks for sharing.

  • @madrigo
    @madrigo 3 года назад +9

    That "way down inside" at 2:53 caught me with such a low guard hahaha the giggle in the end is the cherry in the pie!

  • @Spawn-td8bf
    @Spawn-td8bf 3 года назад

    So good to hear you so happy. Very cool !!

  • @Jayoldstuff1
    @Jayoldstuff1 3 года назад +2

    I found a very similar one to the ones you have in one of my junk boxes. mine has an edge connector rather than the solder lugs on the back. will have to have a go at powering it up.

  • @rankenfile
    @rankenfile 3 года назад

    Nice job with the donation Nikolaus. Funky Fran tune was great as well.

  • @Franktek12
    @Franktek12 3 года назад +5

    Very nice! Under driving keeps thermal lag to a minimum and changes colour temperature just a tad.

  • @stevearmstrong4561
    @stevearmstrong4561 3 года назад

    That one is the most simple and practical design in your collection.

  • @cgoad
    @cgoad 3 года назад

    Thank you for the generous gift Nikolaus. And thank you Fran for sharing. So amazing.

  • @TheBookDoctor
    @TheBookDoctor 3 года назад

    I dig the tunnel effect from the internal reflections on the zero.

  • @Bernie_the_Bolt
    @Bernie_the_Bolt 3 года назад +6

    I was working at KGM in the 1970s when these displays were being manufactured by about 6 ladies working in a corner of the workshop, KGM's main business being CCTV. They were designed by a very clever chap called Harold Freedman, the reason they appeared in the Bond film was that KGM had directors who were associated with Twickenham Film Studios which was only a few miles away from KGM in Isleworth. I still work in instrument calibration and these displays crop up on occasion in ancient voltmeters. Never imagined they would be highly sought after and featured onYT.

  • @stanbrow
    @stanbrow 3 года назад

    Really cool. You are defiantly the worlds expert on displays!

  • @scothohl4586
    @scothohl4586 3 года назад

    Well hello Fran! Love your videos! Keep em' coming. You have some really neat display videos. Now I want me some of those nixie tube clocks...😁

  • @donwebber7034
    @donwebber7034 3 года назад

    Wow really cool it truly a rarity. I’d forgotten how I was fascinated when I saw this in the Bond film now I know! Thanks Fran!

  • @RPatt-sen
    @RPatt-sen 3 года назад

    That was cool! I love these old school displays.

  • @Subbestionix
    @Subbestionix 2 года назад

    I'm so happy i discovered your channel! Good stuff!
    ....and i got that song stuck in my head now xD

  • @gregorythomas333
    @gregorythomas333 3 года назад +1

    Damn...major score!
    I remember seeing them in that movie...totally awesome that you got TWO of them :)

  • @boscorner
    @boscorner 2 года назад

    Your display videos are probably my favorite

  • @RonaldJS
    @RonaldJS 3 года назад +2

    I like the simple straight forward curve-linear font of the display. I seem to remember seeing it in some other movie besides Goldfinger, some sci-fi flick I'm sure.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog 3 года назад +5

    Video reported for pornagraphic content.

  • @RayKremer78
    @RayKremer78 3 года назад

    The crowdfunded "Gixie tube" imitation nixie tube clock project from a couple years back works on exactly the same principle as this, but with LEDs. The variety of these old non-7-segment number displays is amazing.

  • @derekchristenson5711
    @derekchristenson5711 2 года назад

    Oh, how fascinating! I've seen pictures of such displays a couple times before (and in that "Bond" movie), including someone's LED-powered interpretation of the concept, but I've never seen how a vintage part was constructed. Neat! 🙂 Thanks for showing us how it works inside and out!

  • @geekgee
    @geekgee 3 года назад

    A thing of beauty indeed! Now I want to watch Goldfinger again.

  • @alyssonrowan6835
    @alyssonrowan6835 3 года назад +1

    What a glorious piece of equipment. I always loved these displays (and that clip from Goldfinger).
    I do recall seeing a bench meter with these displays opened up for repair - there was a matching module with a decimal point that just sat between two adjacent digit modules. It looked like a solid block with a lamp and a simple acrylic rod for the d.p.

  • @vonkruel
    @vonkruel 3 года назад

    Pretty cool displays, and your music was an unexpected bonus!

  • @njmikec
    @njmikec 3 года назад +9

    Nicely done! I love the insertion of Led Zeppelin.

  • @aramboodakian9554
    @aramboodakian9554 2 года назад

    So cool! I remember wondering what that display was when watching Gold Finger.

  • @modem.9749
    @modem.9749 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting.Thank you for the presentation. I learned alot.You have gargantuan wealth of knowledge.Peace love blessings to you and yours.

  • @bazzatron9482
    @bazzatron9482 3 года назад +5

    Love the alternating pattern as it lights up in sequence.
    Thanks for sharing with us, and thanks to the viewer for parting with them!
    I hope you can find one more to recreate the Bond bomb...! Or maybe you can get some laser engraved light pipes to recreate the FRANLABS opening in as many ways as possible!
    Thanks again!

  • @nicwilson89
    @nicwilson89 3 года назад

    Oh boy, those are absolutely stunning! Seeing each piece light up from the side was certainly beautiful!

  • @graemehossack7401
    @graemehossack7401 3 года назад

    What an elegant design.

  • @noe616
    @noe616 3 года назад +1

    Old school electronics are so cool. Tangible tech.

  • @doktorhopfenmachers5717
    @doktorhopfenmachers5717 3 года назад

    Beautiful simple, thx for this information.

  • @SarahRWilson
    @SarahRWilson 3 года назад

    This is a really cool display, I love the way the elements are nested together, and the pointed adjustment screw for pressing them lightly against each other. One can almost see the 3D printing folks thinking, "Hmmm".
    There was a brief touch on using a gel filter to change the colour*¹ as displayed. While probably intended to make this look like a Nixie, for the love of peat*² why, this is an idea that could be further exploited beyond incandescent sources. For those of us incessant disassemblers who lived through the VFD calculator era, blue and green filters to push the spectra a little bit sideways were ubiquitous. This can also be used to change the color of other phosphor based displays, not only Nimo and some color LEDs*³, but also VFD. We don't have to be resigned to the classic colors because "that's how it's always been done" either. Crank up a display and play with some filters, the weirder the better!
    *¹ The subject is a British display.
    *² Misspelling intended.
    *³ ... though it may be a sacrilege for some of these vintage displays...

  • @professordeb
    @professordeb 3 года назад

    That was super cool Fran!

  • @rotaxtwin
    @rotaxtwin Год назад

    Those are indeed great. Thanks for digging up the James Bond reference because I thought I had seem them somewhere.

  • @robertlee9395
    @robertlee9395 3 года назад

    Watching this mesmerizing display gave me an idea 💡!
    It would be really really cool to have a Screen Saver of all of Fran's
    Displays to run on our Big Screens just to watch or run in the background.
    It would be a fun way to introduce Fran to our friends and guests!

  • @curtisfranks3580
    @curtisfranks3580 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing

  • @FF7824
    @FF7824 3 года назад

    Very nice Fran. Thanks!

  • @pbrennan
    @pbrennan 3 года назад

    A Nixie aesthetic without the hassle of a vacuum tube or the high voltage to drive it! Love it!

  • @sn3dg3r
    @sn3dg3r 3 года назад

    Bond reference is good timing.
    Saw the trailer in the cinema today, sorry, let me translate, "movie theatre", supposed to be more PC, but Danny still managed to say "she's so disarming".
    That was beautiful to see, thx

  • @Megabean
    @Megabean 3 года назад

    What an incredible yet such a simple design for a indicator.

  • @earthlingjohn
    @earthlingjohn 3 года назад

    Love the Fran-gasm videos 😀

  • @memejeff
    @memejeff 3 года назад

    Absolutely amazing. I would love to buy one on ebay or make one. So simple yet so elegant.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 3 года назад

    Nice how the 60BPM of the music was in sync to the lamps changing state as well.

  • @Evansmustard
    @Evansmustard 3 года назад

    These are so pretty.

  • @phillmaf7319
    @phillmaf7319 3 года назад

    Funkiest lamp I Ve seen. Lovely mechanism without high voltage and phosphor. If I ever take over the world I d use these on my doomsday contraption.
    Thanks Frantastic.

  • @mattwillis3219
    @mattwillis3219 3 года назад

    Wow, absolutely beautiful display! This is going to have to be a future project to make said unobtanium! Awesome stuff, thanks for the demo Fran!

  • @jeffburrell7648
    @jeffburrell7648 3 года назад +2

    Very nice! How are the dots that make up the digits made?

  • @Indiskret1
    @Indiskret1 3 года назад

    Very, very, very cool display.

  • @firewoodjacob3434
    @firewoodjacob3434 3 года назад

    A beautiful piece of kit fran i like the old tech it makes you think how old we are now.
    Greetings from the netherlands.

  • @dubsar
    @dubsar 3 года назад

    Fran, you are amazing.

  • @johnsykesiii1629
    @johnsykesiii1629 3 года назад

    Fran - When you get a chance, you should go down to the Independence Seaport Museum and shoot some video. It is a very interesting place and often overlooked in the Philly museum scene.

  • @AnimationGoneWrong
    @AnimationGoneWrong 3 года назад

    That is a very cool display! I can only imagine the fun/trouble the prop builders for Goldfinger had getting 3 of those to run. They show up great on camera, too! Thanks for sharing this, Fran.

  • @brucepickess8097
    @brucepickess8097 3 года назад

    Hi Fran from the UK. Well I didn't plan to have a bask this afternoon, but I've just realised how I've missed a long meaningful bask. I basked repeatedly to that display and now I feel completely rela.................

  • @MikeTechnology
    @MikeTechnology 3 года назад

    Well that's a fascinating little display especially because it has those dot is like a nikie tube but way cooler. Thank for show it

  • @nikus2013
    @nikus2013 3 года назад

    That is gorgeous!

  • @conradfuller6697
    @conradfuller6697 3 года назад

    Very interesting thank you Fran

  • @randallmckinney5152
    @randallmckinney5152 3 года назад

    I remember “Nixie Light “ displays but never aware these. Totally cool!

  • @Flimflam107
    @Flimflam107 3 года назад

    Such a well lit video. Loved it!

  • @paulwooley4655
    @paulwooley4655 3 года назад +3

    Very cool.

  • @SynthoidSounds
    @SynthoidSounds 7 месяцев назад

    I had a very similar, multidigital numeric display, from the 1950s, but silly me, left it behind when I moved to a new area. Tiny little incadescent bulbs, a few were burned out, lit up the edges of the plastic numeric panels, a beautiful example of early electronic tech it was. As I recall, the nuimbers were continuous linear traces in the plastic, rather than matrices of little dots.

  • @scottyb069
    @scottyb069 3 года назад

    I have an old frequency counter at home with 8 of these in it. I scrapped the rest but kept the displays, they are a bit crusty but you're welcome to them if you would like them.

  • @TooManyHobbiesJeremy
    @TooManyHobbiesJeremy 3 года назад

    That's neat that this type of display was used in Gold Finger!

  • @SimonHollandfilms
    @SimonHollandfilms 3 года назад

    i'm not sure how this works in a stack..can anyone show what the front of each segment looks like.

  • @hmw-ms3tx
    @hmw-ms3tx 3 года назад

    When scouring e-bay for tools, NOS is my favourite acronym to find in the description.

  • @W1RMD
    @W1RMD Год назад

    Thanks Fran for showing, and thanks to Nikolaus for donating!

  • @rikprince8414
    @rikprince8414 3 года назад +2

    LOVE IT!!!

  • @dwaynereber2082
    @dwaynereber2082 3 года назад

    Leave it to you Fran.
    Loved the Led Zeppelin plug!!

  • @alpcns
    @alpcns 3 года назад

    If it isn't something Apollo blessed by Armstrong himself then it's something else unobtanium. Fran has the super-special stuff! Fascinating! Thanks Fran!

  • @gregfeneis609
    @gregfeneis609 3 года назад

    Way cool. Thanks for sharing.

  • @hurrycraneannie8146
    @hurrycraneannie8146 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful!!

  • @BertNielson
    @BertNielson 3 года назад +2

    Now I want to design and build my own, drive them using LEDs. You could really use some beautiful fonts for your display.
    Totally impractical, but hella cool.

    • @matthiasmartin1975
      @matthiasmartin1975 3 года назад +1

      Already exists BTW, Techmoan reviewed them some time ago.