[ENG CC] Seeker EG6 vs. RE Amemiya RX-7 Touge battle HV77
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Seeker Civic EG6 (Orido Manabu) vs. RE Amemiya RX-7 (Keiichi Tsuchiya) - Touge battle. Poor Orido manages to crash the Seeker twice in this battle. 
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You know you're good friends when you watch your buddy drive straight off a mountain road, and the thought "Is he ok?" never crosses your mind and you just start laughing your ass off.
Orido decided to homage Initial D's Shingo and crashed a red EG, lol.
Lol forgot about that car
lmfao agreed
Hold the fucking phone...
Hot Sauce Haley Another AC fan? Even here? We're spreading!
Been an Ace since Air Combat, and looking forward to AC7!
Not sure I understand this logic:
Seeker team "Hmm our EG6 has been dominating this course up until now....let's change the setup at the last second!" :D
Honda owners
@@evanmastermind Said a typical Honda hater
All for crashing twice
This is new video, have fun.
Thank you miroshi keep up the updates
+miroshi Thanks for the videos. Me and a bunch of my friends would always try and find Best Motoring videos in Highschool (2000-04). Now the only places that give near the detail are MOTIVE and sometimes MotorTrend, but they still don't come close the track battles. I mean the wheel to wheel racing is just great to watch.
La Channelloto yis
Twice! damn, i wonder what was up with the civic. Great video. Thanks Miroshi for doing what you do! i'd never know whats going on without the subtitles
brakes locked and wouldnt respond to steering input, i would have stopped the battle in the first ocurrence, cool video thanks for listening miroshi!
Power_of_R you make it sound like that's rare. That's what happens when you lock up any brakes. They probably removed ABS which isn't uncommon for a ton of high spec built cars.
From outside i thought it was just understeer. Just when they show the inside view I noticed the brakes locked.
Why would they remove something that would cause the brakes to get locked?
@@robertvuitton maybe wheight reduction or idk
Maybe the didnt remove it. Maybe it was an issue with the car's ABS setup
@RantaAnders he did
haha love tsuchiya laugh
Funny how he uses the parking brake when he already is in the gutter :)
3:48 - What is this? Handbrake on lol..
SlickRickOne habit probly
I mean it's a good habit, it's better to have the wheels locked rather than to have the car roll farther into the ditch, regardless, still funny how you pointed that out lmfao
You don't want to roll the car down the cliff before the towing truck comes, you know gravity will work in this case right
*[ C O O L V I B R A T I O N S ]*
*I WANNA DANCE*
*GO!*
To me it seems that the EG had too little brake force to the rear tires and a bit too soft on the front suspension so it locks the front so easily when applying heavy brake and prevent driver doing weight transfer during tight turns. However there's a bit hesitation of Orido's input as well, he said something like "I totally can't understand..." before the 2nd crash and claims understeering during the sighting session before race. Maybe the car's response disturbing Orido from doing the input he wants then causing the crash....
よくこんなので攻めれるよね。最初の高速コーナーでステアリング目一杯切らないと曲がれないくらいドアンダーってヤバない？
Looks like there was maybe something wrong with the steering rack or tie rods, as the steering wheel was fully turned right yet from the outside you see the wheels are pointing straight ahead, something was broken
lol weight reduction
brake reduction.... yikes...
すげー織戸ちゃんと人間ABSやってる
にも関わらずロックし続けるブレーキ…
確実に織戸さんは悪くない…
Tsuchiya's laugh is so savage.. lol
直前に落ちたのにすぐに乗れるレーサーのメンタルの強さ！！！
Well this was unexpected haha
great upload
i think it was just orido... this car has done way better in other races piloted by tsuchiya lol
It didn’t say the full exhaust setup on the spec information. Does any one know of the muffler kit for seeker eg6? I only know that it has a spoon header
Fortunately the eg comes with a tow loop mid rear bumper...... May come in handy in the last mishap!
What engine modifications did the EG6 have?
the best part on initial d when the eg6 crash XD
There is a Civic EG6 mod that is very similar to the EG6 in this video in Assetto Corsa, and I always wondered why the brakes were so difficult to deal with going in to downhill hairpins. Haha, guess I found out why /:|
Love Keiichi's sneaky durry
Has Orido built a career on professional crashing?! Lol, my favorite past car though has been the Aristo
I think the suspension setting was too stiff and an upset caused traction loss under braking
Jujutsuheiho also he came in a too little hot so he used too much brake pressure front tires locked up and he stuffed it it happens to all of us tho each car has it's qurks
good ol Orido.
I don't understand a damn word but these videos are still super entertaining :D
I love the comedy elements of the show.
i demand them to do a rematch! with seeker eg6 using the exact same setup during battle with mrS....
土屋さん「真っ直ぐな織戸」のセリフはココから来てたんですねw
3:24 When you're about to hit em with the daburukurasshu but remember there's no one in front of you.
where's the subs. ?
what the hell was wrong with the seecker eg? orido really doesnt crash that much normally
No idea what they are saying, but they seem happy
+Isaac Moody subtitles are available :)
LOL!
yup use the CC
didnt he also crash a 180?
That civic sounds like a dream, you couldn’t even hear the rx7 on the inside over it lol
what the hell happend to the seeker civic? I highly doubt orido making a mistake twice
I suppose it's bad tie rod/steering rack/anything down there.
*"At least the car lost weight."*
this guys knows EVERYTHING about cars if you want ultimate weight reduction i would recommend to remove the engine removes alot of weight
How is it that Japan produces most of the HD cameras that we have in America, but every video that comes out of japan looks like it was filmed in 1990?
Maybe because this was filmed in the 90s?
Even the newer videos are poor quality.
+aclark092 Because they're usually ripped copies and then compacted.
aclark092 hahaha so true 😂
Maybe they rip the videos using a tape recorder? The old original DVRs, then transform to digital
and then orido crashed the amuse 370z....i forgot which episode was that....Arvou's S2000 was there too
didn't Nob do the 370z
+Bushtail Razorback was it???i forgot....cuz tsuchiya said orido always wreck cars at the touge..haha
+derafdrummer94 , it could have been, lol. it's nice they push them that hard tho
+derafdrummer94 your right about Orido crashed white amuse 370z...same problem/mistake brake locked
+arif rifz i know right???!!it crashed and squeezed under the barrier
あらためて観て…いやいやこれはドアンダーとかそーゆー問題でなく、根本的にメカ的トラブル抱えてると思われ。
(アンダー指向の車でもこんなに無反応な動きはしない)
オリダーが無事でよかったです。
2回目のコースアウトの足元カメラ見ると完全にオリダーが一瞬ブレーキ踏み遅れてドッカンブレーキしてブレーキロックで真っ直ぐ行ったように見えますがね
@@alicehartz2247
あーごめん、そこまで見てないかったわーw 後でよく観てみます
でもそーとしても、何人かが指摘してるようなドアンダーマシンとは違い、操作ミスによるブレーキロックという事になるねw
wHat iS tHIs?
It's not a hard crash, he braked at the right moment and saved himself and the car from extensive damage
Why does Orido always crash? I've seen so many clips of touge battle, and he is the one who always crash cars XD
And the leson we learn today is why the ABS is on the cars actualy
I wonder if they drank saki before all this
not once but twice lol good video guys :)
シーカーさん完全にセッティングミス...?
Orido king of the touge watch out for that TREE
3:43 It was at this moment he knew he fucked up.
The second I saw Dori Dori in that FD, I knew it was all over.
That EG does not want to stay on the road
still watch this in 2018.. how to shingo
damm thats sad something was definitely up with the brakes on that EG
何回見ても笑っちゃうんだけどマジで織戸さんかわいそう…
完全にシーカーの誤セッティングだよな。
ステアリングを切ったら切った分膨らんでいく酷いどアンダーだわ。
Understeer - Honda's only flaw
コメントに車に対する愛が～さすがトップレーサー😢
COOL VIBRATIONS
NO ABS
Shingo Vs Keisuke but the Blue one
サスペンションのストロークが足りない？
車に要因がありそうですね
織戸さんはアロンソみたいに悪くても乗りこなしちゃうから…セッティング駄目出ししなかったんだろうな
@@user-pi4ot1pz2y せやな
On Mr. Orido's driving this Seeker Civic EG6, he just losing control of this Seeker EG6.
He must have gotten blinded around that bend...
Orido: "Aight Imma Rage my Dream".
my reaction to the RX-7 WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU KEISUKE-SAN! I WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS!!!
1:10 it’s because the brakes locked up...
i like how he crashes the car because of under steer then the tuners go ahead and make it under steer more.
understeer?
Yeah looks like it started understeering and when he applied brake it locked up.
Lol love your videos
*cool vibrations*
What the hell? Why does he keep locking up the brakes and keep turning the wheel late???
It has a lot of under steer due to it being ff
+New England Fb he's crashing because the brakes locked, had nothing to do with it being ff, every drive train can understeer.
yeep, every drivetrain can understeer, remember in the stage 1 final battle of initial D, takumi's ae86 understeered? and the fact that an ae86 is a FR?
although FF and 4WD is more prone to understeer
that poor eg!
3:27
hahaha " with that being said the eg falls off literally right there " lolol
That civic must have been sketchy to drive because Tsuchiya almost lost it and Orido wrecked it twice! lol
Orido's habit of slamming the brakes is what caused him the crashed.
"Seeker EG6 falls off.. literally" lol. I loved that.
I had a feeling that was going to happen, that civic is just a mess
[Cool vibrations]
アンダーで、ハンドル切れば切るほどアンダーになっていく
最初からリアを出して走ると良いのか笑
Crashes on the warmup lap, then crashes again in the race... Poor Seeker, I hope they had good insurance...
I feel so bad for Orido.
That EG wouldn't turn at all!
+Travis Faubel That EG is fastest EG&FWD i ever saw around touge track, Orido messed up 1st crash 100% and for 2nd good driver should create ABS brake if car dont have ABS like this EG and why no Ebrake before 180R corner he went streight like an idiot
Orido fault no question guess he had some drinking night before lol
+hondahillracing AFAIK the EG does have ABS but it failed.
+hondahillracing If a person doesn't know the car well enough, it may still be an unknown. I do not know how the car was set up for brake bias. With ABS, the system will redistribute balance. You just mash the brakes, and the system will even it out. Without ABS, you're completely dependent on the mechanical balance. Most stock setups are balanced with a front bias to promote understeer. Some systems may be set up more moderately so.
When feeling for brake threshold, you might have one of two expectations. One, if you know it's front biased, you're trying to feel the front tire lockup and modulate just before. You add braking distance and hope you don't forget to do so on the next corner. You also avoid all steering and basically throw trail braking out the window. Two, you're feeling for the rear end to get loose, but that will never happen. I think a lot of people learn to focus quite heavily on this, so a lot of your mental tuning for braking ends up on the back end. The mind learns to think front steer, rear brake/throttle. Then you get into a front brake, front no steer situation, it throws the mental training out of whack.
The bigger issue revolves around grip expectation. When driving, you get a very good sense of total grip, especially if there's a lot of steady state cornering. You gain an expectation of overall G force the car can support and carry this expectation to braking. With a well set car, this assumption is correct, and you'll have a pretty even grip level as you load the car in any direction. When you brake with a poorly biased setup, you might be 10% to 30% off of this maximum depending on how bad it's set. Even a very mild discrepancy will generate a 10%-15% loss of straight line braking distance. Plus there's no way to make corrections of any kind as you transition into cornering. You come to a corner with a sum expectation and end up short changed by a good margin. The first time the driver experienced this should have been a huge red flag to fix the balance.
+Xmvw2X theres a subtitled version. the abs failed and locked up. this had happen to my dad in his yaris. and yes it has abs
+Itsxok Still why no Ebrake he crashed like idiot both time
After the crash dude put the emergency brakes on. lol
The King drifter is lit
0:59 [FWD INTENSIFIES]
1:01 shingo?
ハンドルきっても真っ直ぐとか怖すぎる
going off the cliff two times a day...
Rx7 FD3S is the best^^
He thought it was Initial D lol
Lol the civic understeared into a tree
At least he pulled the E brake at the end 🤷🏻♂️😂
I love how they just laugh it off like "haha he just had a car accident and could be badly injured look at him". I'm not complaining though, whoever messed with the setting was probably from re anyway
Orido = Shingo
This race ends with a DOUBLE CRASHHHH lmao