Dreame Z10 Pro - the best robot vacuum I've ever tested
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Why is it the best? Simple. It doesn't screw up. It always gets the job done. I never have to empty the bin myself, and there are no bugs, at least not that's I've noticed. I don't care if some other robot does a better job at everything, if it bugs out or scratches my floor or gives me ANY headaches whatsoever, it sucks and it goes in the closet.
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Thank you, I appreciate that.
Thank you. This validates my decision. I ordered it earlier today. I loved the Deebot T8 plus, but the base made me send it back. This seems similar with a well thoudht out self empting base.
You’ll love it. But you may miss the google/alexa commands, at least for now. You won’t miss the bugs or emptying the robots dust bin by hand.
Is T8+ better or Z10 Pro considering T8+ has vibrating mop feature to remove hard stains...your thoughts?
A viewer named Rick E made a comment critical of the Z10, and I wanted to respond to it, but either Rick himself or RUclips took it down. If it was RUclips, I don't know why they'd do it, it was a valid comment. Rick mentioned that his robot gave him a brush stall error on medium pile carpeting. This doesn't surprise me, since this is the same company that used to make Roborocks and they are notorious for that issue. Kinda like the error 26 on Roombas. Rick, I do plan to set up a medium pile carpet test and so I will test this robot on "normal" carpet. You said, "This is the best robot you've ever tested?" Yes, it is, because it hasn't given me any errors at all, because bin is emptied every time, and because the app is simple but bug free. What is the use of fancy features if the robot cannot complete a cleaning run reliably because of app and navigation/cleaning algorithm bugs?
Would love to see a head to head between this and the new Roomba j7.
I can do that for you right now.
First, the self-empty bins are comparable...the Dreame's is better, but in the real world, both get the job done. In terms of cleaning performance, the j7 is the same as the i7, so on hard floors, it's a little better, and on carpets it's a little worse, though I can only compare what you see (as opposed to deep cleaning). Object avoidance will be mixed...the j7 will avoid poop better while the Z10 will avoid cords and laces better. Navigation wise, the j7 is just as primitive as the i7, except that the light means you can run it in the dark, which is very nice. But mapping will still take forever and it will lack the Z10's precision and will often get lost and confused.
If avoiding pet poop is your highest priority, get the j7. Otherwise, the Z10 is the clear choice.
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I have the Dreame L10, I think it's the same as the Z10 but without the auto empty station. The vacuum motor sounds the same, the app does not speak very well, I had to get sighted help to set the suction to max but I can start a clean with it which is all I really need. The self empty docks are good but they definitely take up more space which is why I chose the L10, when you have several lidar bots, you can tell a difference with their navigation. I recently replaced my dining room table with a smaller one, it has two chairs and when they are pushed in, there is not enough room for a robot to go under the table. I have two of my robots docked against the wall that you can easily get to if you go around the table. When I tell the Eufy Robovac X8 to head home, it does try to go under the table briefly, then once it realizes that it can't, it goes around the table and docks itself. The Dreame L10 takes much longer, it tries much harder to find a way to go under the table between the chairs, eventually it realizes that it can't and goes around the table but the Eufy robovac figures it out much quicker, I'm not sure if the object avoidance on the Dreame L10 makes a difference with that or not.
Object avoidance can lead to wonky navigation, but the only way to be sure is to turn it off and see if it improves.
Have you done a plexiglass scratch test? This thing has 4000 Pa suction, I think higher than t8 aivi and roborock S7, very promising for carpet cleaning.
No, because I've done enough of them to know what about a robot may scratch a floor, and this one has none of those things. It's safe.
Hi! I know this is an old video but my boyfriend is buying a robot vacuum secondhand and is between this and the Roborock S5 Max. Which one would you recommend? Fully hard floors no carpet so mopping matters
Would you say the Z10 Pro is better than the S9+ at picking up pet hair (specifically long haired cats that shed a lot). The townhouse we rent is mostly carpet, with a small area being hardwood (in dining room) and laminate (in kitchen)?
No, probably not. I think the z10 is a better robot overall, and that the s9 will scratch your wood and laminate floors (how much depends on a lot of factors), but I think the s9 is the better cleaner, though not by that much. If you have a very simple floor plan, the s9 won't have any problems, but if your house is complicated, you may be better off with a LIDAR robot.
Great review, did dreametech update the software in the meantime to do more than one perimeter sweep when doing multiple passes?
I don't believe so. I still have all three of them running every day but I only do one cleaning pass and never really watch them.
Hi Mr. Roombato, I have a question!
I’ve had the room a j7 for about a little over a month and I’ve been having serious problems with it. My house has a black and white color scheme with black doors and door frames as well as white and black patterned rugs.
The J7 seems to frequently get lost and give me errors. I think it’s the black doors which confuses it, and it requires a lot of light for it to clean without giving up and returning to the base. For 3200sqft, it takes 5-6hours to clean which seems absurd. Plus, despite multiple mapping runs and everyday cleaning, it still has yet to make a correct map of my house. I’ll spare you the full list of issues (there are more) but because of that I’m looking for an alternative that can preferably avoid wires.
I was assured that as the ai learns, the j7 would improve, but I’ve been having these issues with the obstacle detection on and off. I’ve been looking at the deebot n8+ and t8+ but am worried about the buggy app and navigation. My home has a large central area with hardwood and rooms with carpet.
I’m open to any robot vaccum you recommend. I just hope it’s sold by best buy so I can use the store credit from the j7 return. Also, I have a cat that likes to pull out tufts of fur while grooming
Sorry for the long question!
I highly recommend the Z10 Pro. My only hesitation is that some people reported that the brush stalls on carpet, which is an issue people used to have with Roborock. Then again, most people don't have this problem. My suggestion is, buy the Z10 Pro on Amazon, see if it has this issue with your carpet, and if not, keep it. I only have very low pile carpet in my house (including that rug I use to test carpet cleaning) and I haven't had a single issue with the Z10. Not one. It's kinda spooky and I'm waiting for it to explode, but...that's how it's been.
@@MrRoombato thank you! I will definitely check it out!
@@TigerTabCat1 If for some reason that does not work out, I would not recommend the Ecovacs. Bugs aside, that self-empty dock just cannot handle pet hair. It's an awful design. If you don't have pets it's great. Otherwise, horrible.
You mentioned that you schedule a daily 5am full run - I presume its quiet enough that it doesn't wake everyone? what mode do you run it on?
Base station is far away from the bedrooms? (its pretty loud)
Thanks for the great reviews, both subjective and objective.
One away from max. I keep my bedroom door closed and I don't care about other people. :)
I have the same robot vacuum (thanks to ur review) and i love the z10. It's mopping however (like any other robot vacuum) isn't the best, and im thinking of pairing another bot that does a better mopping.
Do you think the ilife w450 is a good enough choice to pair it with? Or the much more expensive dreame w10 would be a better option (although the vacuuming part may be a little redundant to have)
Hope to hear your feedback soon. Thanks
The W10, all the way. No question. First, the vacuuming is not redundant. Think of it as a second cleaning pass. Second, what if you want a room mopped outside of the schedule? With the W450 you would have to send your Z10 first, then bring the W450 there and hope you can somehow confine it to that room. With the W10 you just open the app and pick a room. Third, the W10 will clean on a schedule, without you having to carry it around, and all you have to do is dump and fill water and empty a dust bin everyone now and then (I empty mine once a week).
The Narwal T10 would also work well, but you would have to send the z10 first, wait for it to finish, then send the Narwal. And as far as I know, it still have no clean zones/spot cleaning.
@@MrRoombato for clarifications sake are you suggesting (having a dog that sheds) to keep the Z10 for vacuuming/auto dustbin emptying and use the W10 for mopping and occasionally vacuuming 2nd pass? Or exclusively use the W10 (and sell the Z10)?
The only downside to the W10 I see is that it doesn’t empty the dustbin. And as a dog haver this is a showstopper. I’ll be curious how you feel about the S7 maxV Ultra vs the W10/Z10. Wish the S7mVU had a real mop…
@@worldburger I used the Z10 Pro/W10 combo for months and I loved it. I had the W10 vacuum and mop and emptied the dust bin about once a week when I dumped/filled the water tanks.
This combo worked really well for me and I never had any issues. But if my rescue dog were to crap on the floor, it would have been game over.
The S7mVU does have a real mop and it works great, at least as well as the W10 with one caveat...it only mops that well when in mop only mode (they chose to not allow the overlapping turn mode in combination with the vacuum). I have mine going out vacuuming only and then mopping only (since it does it at night this doesn't bother me at all). The big advantage is of course the object avoidance. The disadvantage is that all of your eggs are in one basket. If you're not worried about poop, I would keep what you have.
What are your top 5 favorite robot vacuums? and I am excited to see the neabot q11 when you release the review
I don't know if I have a top 5, I am so full of hate. :)
The z10 is my favorite at the moment, followed by the Q11. The 360 S5 would be on that list, because it's cheap AD (something like 169 on amazon for black friday) and very reliable and it works). I love the Roborock S6 MaxV, but without a self-empty bin, it's kinda useless to me. That's four. Coming up with a fifth is hard.
The Q11 has been buggy, but I think they've gotten it mostly squared away at this point. Compared to the Z10, it's a lot quieter, more prone to hair tangles and the self-empty bin is not as good, but, it's one of the better ones on the market and aside from it not doing as well in tests or having some stuff in it when I check, it's never made me empty the robot's bin by hand, which means in the real world, it works just as well.
I would get the Q11 over the Z10 if I needed something as quiet as possible to clean at night and if I needed it to fit under something that the domed z10 wouldn't fit under.
@@MrRoombato Would you say the Z10 is worth 200 to $300 more than the Q11 ? Looks like I can get the Q11 for around $500 total or the Z10 for $750 total shipped to Canada.
@@horshaed That's a tough one. In absolute terms, no. The Q11 is excellent. But the Q11 is buggy, which may or may not matter to you, and they do have most of them fixed. If you're buying from Amazon, I suggest getting the Q11 and if the bugs creep up in your situation, then you'll know within the 30 day return window.
But the Z10 should be on sale for under 500 dollars today. Unless that 130 dollar coupon is gone?
@@MrRoombato shipping, fees, and customs to Canada is over $150 unfortunately, then the conversion rate...
Z10 clocks in at $802CAD all in (with coupon) and the Q11 at $664.86CAD. I forgot to factor in duties on the Q11 at first, so I guess it's only a
How well does the carpet detection work since it doesn't have ultra sonic carpet detection?
It seems to work well, but then I only have the one tiny rug when I'm not doing carpet tests.
2/13/2022 I asked you a question just today on teh Q11 vacuum in which you recommended hands down to get this one. Since this robot like others require to replace the vacuum dust bags and other parts like the brush eventually, I can't seem to find where to buy them. Dreametech doesn't sell any accessories or replacement parts. Where do you buy yours?
I'll answer your other question too because that's in a separate video and more people will see it. Here is the link:
www.amazon.com/stores/page/83AA0542-F896-4FC1-9EFC-34C47960B240?ingress=2&visitId=7556274f-4157-43cf-a8c3-e7956297aba8&ref_=ast_bln
@@MrRoombato Thank you for that link. Now if only the dust bags were out of stock and they don't know when it will be available. It seems I can find some through suppliers in China, but only through AliExpress. Have you ever bought anything through that medium? Looks like it will take about 4 to 6 weeks to receive it.
@@Josiew2562 I wouldn't worry about it. The bag lasts for a couple of months.
Can the dust bag be reused? Or do I have to buy a new one?
Sort of, and this goes for all bins that use bags. You can reuse it, although emptying it is a very unpleasant experience...the amount of dirt it holds is surprising. But reusing it may affect the self-empty dock's performance. The bag also acts as a filter, and like all filters, it eventually gets clogged.
I am considering biting the bullet to get one of these.... I have mainly carpet (but i am looking to move) I am looking at this budget of Z10 Pro with the auto empty and object avoidance. But I am also looking at the roborock 7 MaxV Plus
In the UK I can get the...
Dreamebot Z10 Pro for £420
Roborock s7 max v (no dock) for £630
Roborock s7 max v plus (not ultra) for £790
Do you think its worth paying the extra money for the newer model (roborock) with the vibra rise system?
If you want mopping, yes. But you should get the Ultra dock if you want mopping. It's a game changer. Alternatively, Dreame just released their D10 Plus, which is like a Z10 without object avoidance (laser object avoidance is mostly a gimmick). You could get that for less, and then get a Dreame W10 if you decide you want mopping. That would be a fantastic combo.
Big house (130sq metres), dogs, wooden floor everywhere apart from bathroom and kitchen where there are tiles, carpets during the winter (low pile), lots of dust and sand during the summer (Greece here and everyday visits to the sea plus all windows opens for more than 4 months), and here am I trying to decide...the z10, the roborock s5 max, the roborock s6 max v? I know the 2 roborocks don't have the self-emptying bin but if they do a significantly better job on my hard floor I'm prepared to empty the bin myself. I've watched literally endless reviews about robot vacuum cleaners and I'm always getting back to these 3 candidates (even though I'm also looking at the viomi s9 too...). Your review is the best I've seen in terms of honesty and straightforwardness. Any ideas to help me decide?
So my biggest hesitation in saying "you don't want to empty the dust bin every day, get the Z10" is that I don't know how well it will handle sand. So I'm going to do a test tonight (I have sand!) and will do a quick video about it.
@@MrRoombato that is exactly where I've got stuck because in lots of review videos I've seen the reviewers saying (and showing) that it's brilliant with carpets (which is very important for me because of pet hair) but so so with hard floors and especially sand. Living in Greece means that half the year we have lots of sand getting in the house from all over the place. I really appreciate your prompt reply and your readiness to check its behaviour with sand so promptly. Looking forward to your advice! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
@@orcamum I tested it with sand and cat litter and compared it to the Roborock S6 MaxV. Both picked up sand well enough, but the S6 was better with cat littler. Both left some behind after 1 pass (like most of these robots, the Z10 does not let you do scheduled cleanings with multiple passes, hopefully this will change) but the Z10 left a bit more. You can always do multiple scheduled cleanings in the sandy parts of your house. If you clean manually (using the app) then it lets you do 2 passes. With 2 passes, the Z10 left very little behind, but the Roborock left almost nothing. So the S6 is definitely better on hard floors, but I don't think the S6 is better enough that I want to empty a dust bin every day (trust me that gets old fast). I'll have the video up in a few days but I wanted to give you a heads up.
@@MrRoombato thank you so much for everything! Looking forward to watching the video. Do you have any idea about the viomi s9 which is also self-emptying? I see many good reviews.
@@orcamum Nope, sorry, no experience.
I was about to order a T8 AIVI with the mopping system and auto empty bin. The z10’s Bin cleaning system is game changing.
Now I’m rethinking. Craaaaaaap.
Do you have pets? If so, don't even consider the Ecovacs. As for a mop, if you were going to get the vibrating mop that's sort of okay, it's not as good as a dedicated mopping robot but better than the sort of passive mop that gets dragged the robot, but honestly, it's not so much better that I would let it change the robot I bought just to accommodate it.
My room map has become crazy off from the actual room. The bot created some spaces that don't exist. Is there a way to remap the entire floor to make it reflect the actual space?
Yes, delete the map and start over. If necessary, factory reset the robot, but just deleting the map should be enough.
@@MrRoombato Thanks for the help, I did not see that option until now.
I've had the N8 pro+ for a coupleof weeks now. I don't have any pets. I don't like the small battery in my N8. I'm thinking about exchanging it for the z10. What do you think?Or should I wait on the Deebot T9+.
Well, it's a tough one. The Z10 is better in every way, except that the N8 is a little bit better on hard floors. So, I guess it depends. The Z10 will just do the job every night without problems...I don't know if you clean on a schedule or if you've run into Ecovac's idiotic algorithms and "features" blowing up your map and stuff like that, but if you haven't, I say keep it.
@@MrRoombato I will try the z10. N8pro+ battery life is killing me! It cleans half my house per charge. Any firmware updates on the roomba j7 to making this choice harder??
@@marcspan4945 They update the iRobot CEO's brain to make him stop using VSLAM. That's about the only thing that will help. :P
@@MrRoombato thanks for taking the time and making your videos. Your audience really appreciate it, I know I do. Yep, N8 is going back. It just made a one row pass in my bedroom.. thought about it and tried to go home. That's the third time this week. I usually clean @ 1/2 of the house per day because of the small battery. I would like to do about 85 - 100% on one charge.
Is T8+ better or Z10 Pro considering T8+ has vibrating mop feature to remove hard stains...your thoughts?
If you need a mop? The T8, definitely. If you don't, Z10 Pro. If you have pets that shed though, I would not get a T8.
@@MrRoombato thanks
Temporarily ignoring the self emptying base, would this still be your favourite over Roborock S6 MaxV?
Best question ever. The answer? Absolutely not. The S6 MaxV is amazing. But it doesn't have a self empty dock. So it's useless. Take that away, and it's the only robot I own that I would use.
But since the reason I use robot vacuums is because I don't want any part of cleaning my own floors, including emptying a dust bin EVERY DAY...the Z10 is only vacuum robot I use on my main floor.
@@MrRoombato Fastest reply ever - thank you. I will give the Z10 a shot (same price as the S6 MaxV here). I was thinking that the dock isn't 100% necessary for me, but maybe it is once you get used to it. ;) I got the impression that the Z10 was also slightly better with hairs, which is a priority since cat hairs and litter is 95% of what ends up in the bag today.
@@mplovecraft Good luck! Keep in mind that the Z10 is not as good on hard floors as the S6 MaxV (nothing I tested is, except maybe the Dreame W10, which is weird). It struggles with some debris types, like oat meal and pine needles. But yes, it is better with hair, especially pet hair.
How would you rank these from best to worst- Z10 pro, i7+, Q5+
I haven't tested the Q5, but the Z10 Pro is much better than any Roomba.
@paul thomas What did you end up getting? I'm curious about the Q5+ too vs Z10 as they are same price now at the moment
OK, did I miss it or is the Black Friday Discount Code missing?
No, you didn't. I'm just super dumb. I've edited the description to add it. Sorry!
Why don't you recommend the Roborock S7? I'm interested in it since the scrubby mopping looks pretty good and Robot Wars' testing said its vacuuming is better than other Roborocks, despite the rubber brush.
It's not despite the rubber brush, it's because of it, and the free floating brush housing.
As for why I don't recommend it, I was concerned when it first came out that it would scratch floors, because of both of the above--the rubber brush becomes sandpaper when it's covered in dirt and the floating housing pushes it firmly into the floor and drags the housing itself around. And since it's come out, I've had multiple subscribers report that it scratches the hell out of their floors. Some sent photos, and they were pretty obvious.
The second and far lesser reason is that the self-empty bin doesn't work very well. I don't know why Roborock chose to suck out the dirt through the brush housing, but it seems like a dumb idea. Now I'm only basing that assessment on other reviewers and their testing, as I have no interest in buying one, nor would I run one in my house because of the scratching. And since I've opened my mouth about this issue, I doubt roborock would ever send me one.
@@MrRoombato Thanks for the detailed reply. I was hoping the floor scratching you had warned about was the reason. For me it's an OK trade-off and I don't care about self-emptying docks, although the dust bin being redesigned to accommodate the dock and being harder to manually empty looks annoying.
Maybe it's semantics, but I thought the floating brush housing was responsible for S7's improved vacuuming because it seals on the floor. I assumed the rubber brush was a necessary evil because they found that pressing bristles against the floor would bend them and destroy the brushes too quickly. If that's not the case, do you know the rationale for the rubber brush or what it's better at? Roborock phone support was stumped by this question, all they could tell me was it's worse with long hairs but performs about the same as the earlier bristle/fin hybrid brushes otherwise.
I was thinking about returning my S6 MaxV and grabbing the S7 on Black Friday deal for the same price I paid. Your Z10 review has me reconsidering. I think the S7's scrubby mopping and ability to raise the mop on carpet so it can clean the whole house in one go will outweigh Dreame's advantages for me, close call though
@@donnnnn9196 You should care about self-emptying docks! Once you get used to one, robots without them seem pointless, like half of a good idea.
To answer your question, the rubber brush is all about carpet cleaning. That's also why hybrid brushes have bristles and rubber fins/blades. Only the bristles make contact with hard floors, but because carpet fibers stand tall, they flatten the bristles and make contact with the carpet fibers, agitating them, allowing for deep cleaning. Brush bristles don't really agitate carpet very much.
Interesting you said that about the S7 plus. I haven't tried it, but it's supposed to clean out the filter. I've tried a couple with a single round port and find I have to clean the filter everytime making the self emptying bin less usefull.
Richard, have you tried not cleaning the filter every time? I know it looks dirty but that should not impede functionality. A filter should be good for weeks if not months. Maybe tap it clean outside against the wall once a week. I used to do that, I don't anymore, haven't noticed a difference. I clean or replace them about once a month.
Mine T8's laser based detection system is way better than this. It can see the smallest earbuds and avoid it. However it couldn't able to see tweezers. I think it's because of the chrome metal is shining through the lasers and it mixes robot's mind.
Would you recommend this over the T8 AIVI? I’m planning to return my Roomba because the battery life is a joke and get the T8 instead.
Absolutely. Unlike the X1 OMNI, the T8's app (same app but different module) is a piece of crap.
@@MrRoombato Kinda too late.. I already ordered my T8 lol
@@MrRoombato Plus another thing, I chose the T8 because of its battery life. The dreametech only has 150 mins where the T8 has 200 mins. I personally prefer the T8, at least on paper.
@@robotvacuumreviewsandmore9791 Don't label your rooms. Keep the A, B, C, etc. That will fix most of the app's junk code. But not all.
lol we'll see how long that lasts. :)
Which one should i choose, dreame z10, ecovacs n8 pro or roborock s5 max?
Dreame Z10. The S5 Max is great but has not self-empty dock. The Ecovacs hardware is fantastic but their software is...bad.
@@MrRoombato if i doesn't care about self emptying dock, which one is the best for hard floor with a lot and changing obstacles ?
@@exoticazza A broom. :) Probably the roborock, I guess. I don't know. I can't not care about a self empty dock. You may as well vacuum yourself.
@@MrRoombato 😅, thx bro 🙏
I've been considering this as my next robot vacuum but the fact that it doesn't have a replaceable battery makes me a bit nervous. I just had to replace my eufy's 30C battery after almost 2 years and it was so easy and cheap. What are your thoughts on this? Thank you!
I haven't seen any of these robots with replaceable batteries, but all of them can be taken apart to replace it.
@@MrRoombato yeah, as long as we can find batteries to buy that shouldn't be a problem, but I couldn't find anything for this specific robot/brand. Thank you for your reply!
Any thoughts on the Dreamtach W10?
You mean Dreametech? If so, they may or may not send me one, but from other reviewers it looks like a great product.
@@MrRoombato - It looks like the W10 is awesome for mopping, but doesn't have self emptying debris bin... but has a very robust mop cleaning system. I've never owned a robo-vac before, this will be our first. We have mostly hardwood floors with a couple of carpeted rooms (low pile). One cat. Thoughts?? Would love to purchase during the black friday event.
@@LeslieWaters301 If you’re dead set on one device I’d go with the W10. Even if you want to start with one device that’s probably your best bet.
Ideally, you want a W10 or Narwal T10 and a dedicated vacuum like the Z10 Pro.
@@MrRoombato - Thanks for the advice! In your video you said you think it might be the comb-things that prevents hair-wrap issues. Can you tell if the W10 would have the same thing? I can’t tell
@@LeslieWaters301 It has the same combs and the same brush. But I can only tell you how resistant it is to mostly dog hair and some human hair. Not, for example, how it would do in a home with many long haired humans.
Just do a preclean, wow, some expect these robots to do a perfect job and I never have oatmeal and or petwaste or othe small crap, cone on people quit being pigs, this robots is awesome and if one is that lazy to leave pet waste laying around then one deserves the mess!!
The issue isn't laziness (I mean, not with most people, you never know with some lol) it's that you may not even know your dog shat on the floor. It's not like it's going to walk up to you and say, "Hey Dave, I just shat on your living room floor. Sorry about that, my bad. But your fat lazy ass hasn't walked me in six hours, so f*ck you, Dave!!"
@@MrRoombato Hah! My cat will totally take a vindictive shit and go "F**k you Dad, clean the d**n kitty litter!"
Great robot, but now it ends the cleaning cycle just before finishing, goes back to the dock to charge, does another half minute or so, goes back to the dock to charge, does another half minute. This should be easy to fix with a firmware upgrade.
Have you tried rebooting it?
Lol you must be kidding me
About what exactly?