Never got on Facebook, Instagram or Threads. I told my friends that I wouldn't give one dollar to Zuck. Email me a picture, if you want. Refused to get an Amazon account rarely purchased anything from the service. Can find anything I want locally
I left Facebook many years ago, after reporting them for offensive posts ( including child & animal abuse ), at least a dozen times, only to be told that these posts would not be removed as they did not go against Facebook's guidelines.
If you don't like what you see or read then don't... remove it from your feed it's that simple. It's not like you're actually preventing anything from happening by reporting people on Facebook.
@@fireteamomega2343 This is why "fact-checking" is pointless. You can check all the facts you want, but if there's child porn on FB, that's just as bad, if not worse. Yet, the fact-checkers don't care about that. The fact-checking community are hypocrites.
It's clear what Zuckerberg would've done in 1933. You don't eliminate fact checking, you keep working on it. Unless of course you're kissing the ring of the self proclaimed dictator.
In part, yes, but kids have been bullied for a millenia up to the modern day, yet the kids of the past did not perform suicide at the rate it is today. To blame Facebook or whatever social network out there is lazy. The kids of today have little to no mental fortitude and resilience - they cannot even hold a phone call with anyone now, according to a report by the BBC.
yep, these kid read fact check about they'll never look like their favorite Taylor Swift because they're just kids and TS is an adult. And some of them thinks they're male but has a body of a female.. they've been burdened by what has been
Yes we can, but what about the many others who stay online, who become radicalised? that hatred does spill out onto the streets ( i doubt the victims at the Pulse nightclub in Florida, in the mosques in Christchurch, many Rohynga villagers in Myanmar saw it coming
@markschdroski1645 You don't get to be the thought police. Stop oppressing people, and less people will become violent. Suppression of speech is asking for violence.
The same content they do not allow when it comes to Palestine awareness will now be allowed. At least it should be if not, it is not really true. Free speech.
@@elchicano187 So they'll finally allow discussion of an apparent, ongoing genocide, but only if you can be racist. Got it. Yeah, no. I deleted my account.
@@ericsilva-gomez2481 that sounds so stupid and naive that it makes you sound so much younger than you probably are. If he’s old, that means he has wisdom and has lived long enough to see what you can’t. But sure, blindly embrace the “new world” like a typical bot
@@iluvjay6911 "You're boycotting making the country you live in better? You sound smart" if you think allowing hate speech and lies to go unchecked is making the country better, then you're factually a mistake.
Fact checking is stopping false information and some bullying online. With checks now being mob rule you will see trolls getting people banned just because they don't like a comment or a shared post. Watch the Maga Cult ruin it.
I am considering it, as well! I have used FB together with my fellow men and women to rescue and find forever homes for dogs&cats. It proved very useful for our work. Need to plan replacement first.
@@PampiliciRUclips cause if you stay on Facebook just says you allow people to harm your loved ones deleted mine yesterday if anyone tried hurting my family like he’s trying to I know what I do what would you do
Before elections in Czech Republic (EU), my civil political discussion was censored by either RUclips or Facebook. I consider this an interference of the USA in Czech elections.
@@steverogers9453 did you actually watch the video? It's pretty obvious and easy to understand...because users and usage/engagement (of any kind) is how FB makes money, and how Zuck lines his pockets. If FB can't be bothered to keep up with fact checking while the world is getting buried under an avalanche of willfull disinformation, misinformation, and hate, the previous poster obviously feels like they will get limited value by subjecting themselves to this inundation of crap content, and they certainly don't want to reward FB with their patronage.
@NoPrisoners7 - Try walking into a church, grabbing the mic from the pastor's hand, and then using it to talk about how much you don't like immigrants. Do the pastor and other church members just have to put up with your rant because "freedom of speech"? No. That isn't how it works. If someone doesn't want to be represented by YOUR words, then it is protected within THEIR FREEDOMS OF SPEECH to demonstrate that they do not agree with you. And a privately owned website is 100% within their rights to moderate the content that represents them online.
I finally quit and deleted my Facebook, and I encourage everyone I know to do so. From here out, it's going to have no purpose but propaganda and 'crafting' public opinion.
I don't think you understand what fascism is... the internet should be a public space where anyone can say anything they want even things you don't agree with
Benito Mussolini, he coined the term fascism, had the full support of the wealthy and the companies in Italy that saw a distinct advantage of taking power away from the people. It took too long but Mussolini became despised by the people. So much so that they hung his dead body by the toes in Milan so that people would see that he was no longer in charge anymore.
As I watch the vid, I find it disturbing that Meta's headquarter address is 1 Hacker Way. They just playing in everyone's faces at this point. Did anyone else spot that?
It seems like it is only the obnoxious billionaires who attract these sycophant cults. Powerless people who are endeared and feel empowered by wealth and master morality.
@@Chunkylover11 The good news is that many of the well-meaning people who were fooled into believing these billionaires are a net good have soured on the idea. You can find quite a few out there, for instance, that will openly say they are embarrassed that they ever thought Elon was a genius.
He should be removed as a CEO from Meta. He’s a spineless little Backstabber that no one is ever gonna trust again no matter what happens in the next election.
Sticks and stones can beak bones but words can only offend us. Dump or ignore social media and focus on legal protections and protecting women and cultural minorities from religious oppression.
The democrats' preferred self-image as the champions of the little guy, but that runs head-on into the democrats' reality. It is not the party of working people anymore. In fact, the democrat party hates working people. Working people like God, families, guns, and America, which makes them racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and probably fatist. What do democrats offer the working class? More lectures? More limits? More hardships? You can't have cars, you can't have steaks, and you certainly can't have a rifle. You can have subways full of homicidal hobos, cash giveaways to Ukrainians and Third World peasant invaders, and government employees trying to talk your son into becoming your daughter.
@@Monkismo “Those who call for censorship in the name of the oppressed ought to recognize it is never the oppressed who determine the bounds of censorship.”
oya I heard women are going extinct or something. theyre being forced to work construction jobs and shit lol I saw a woman the other day with a callous on her hand it was the first time I ever saw that in my life. times have changed. oh boy.
All these comments saying they'll delete FB and boycott Meta meanwhile in Afghanistan 14 million women aren't allowed to talk in public... what a fucked up world we live in
What this implies is greater social division and unrest. Which in turn creates greater segregation among the working class, who should unite rather than fight against each other. This is not the ideological/cultural war they want to sell to us, this is a class war.
@@monitorlizard9971 Listen to Maria Ressa again. At the end of the day these platforms are owned by billionaires with private interests, these are great tools for behavior modification and social manipulation. This ''free speech'' that they sell is just greater dissemination of hate speech and misinformation. The social division that occurs in these platforms as a result are beneficial for those in power to keep manipulating the population. Trump is an example of this power at use.
LOL yet using a google account to post your comment is ok. You ppl are all insane and cherry pick what is ok when its convenient. The only ppl that even still use FB are old ppl
4 stages of governmental response: a) Deny - No, we didn't do it. b) Admit - Yes, we did it. So what? Others did it, too. c) Warn - So, what are you going to do about it? d) Threaten - You didn't hear what you heard.
@@mikebevibevi @fumble_brewski5410 20 hours ago I'm already "educated," friend. Whatever "democracy" we did have was extinguished in 1963, when the ruling oligarchy (CIA, MIC, etc.) eliminated JFK. Since then, whichever party has been in power is the servant of that oligarchy. We currently reside in a welfare/warfare state, not a democracy or republic. The government serves the oligarchy and vice versa. To cast a vote for either major party is in reality to cast a vote for the "uniparty." Sad, but true.
I just had a Quora question in a queer Space deleted by their bot, which was related to sexual orientation and gender.... Quora said it had 'sexual content'. There isn't even a direct way to appeal. Literally NO ONE who responded saw it as inappropriate. That's why bots shouldn't be content moderating. They missed context while just scrolling for trigger words
@@ScottLeeRockshow true but responsibility does. (The ability to respond) as we move higher consciousness, our soul aspect will guide us to look at things deeply show us where we are focusing our energy. Is it on division or is it on honoring and loving our fellows even when they have different opinions look different from us speak different from us act different from us. In the end, what we see before us is always a mirror to where we are in our mastery.
“Fact checking” and “hate speech” are distinctly different things. Many things are considered hate speech that isn’t hate speech. For example if I make a good point against a feminist or lgbtq talking point then my comment is removed and I can’t make comments on RUclips for a day.
I'm so sick of this gaslighting. Free speech life blood of our Democratic Principles so much so that we must tolerate the views of those we do not always agree with.
Honestly, it's very simple. Give people the option to read a post, but if there is evidence to the contrary, provide a disclaimer and links to pages where conflicting information can be found. Hell, you can even label it as false or misleading and provide evidence to back it up. This can even be done with LLMs now, but it would require a shit ton of compute. The issue is programming the AI in a way that it doesn't exhibit any kind of political bias, like its makers. But it can be done and should be done. It would lead to a civilization of better-informed and more critical-thinking individuals. *edit The issue always boils down to censor or don't censor. It's getting to the point now where we're advanced enough technologically where the question shouldn't be how to censor misleading information, as it has always been done in the past, but instead, how do we use our technology to educate people about the facts. The problem is that social media may seem like a breeding ground for this kind of misinformation, but people socialize regardless of its existence, and misinformation will spread even in its absence. All social media does is accelerate the spread of misinformation, but it can also be used to accelerate the spread of facts.
That is not the same thing as fact checking. If a lie is repeated often enough people will start to believe it. This is why you need actual fact checking.
@@nancykraus5127Who fact checks the fact checkers? X's community notes are proving way more effective than Twitter's left leaning biased fact checkers.
Wow. What did you post about? Utube is horrid about menial comments, and utube jail for 24 hrs. I love utube, I learn alot, and love my favorite channels. I just don't say to much negative, it actually has helped me, even if I don't agree, I think " if I don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all." AND that's a good trait to have. 🥰
HattieLankford-24 the big problem with getting suspended especially in my case is that they never tell why just that you said something they don’t agree about and to go to instagram and talk to them about it. The only thing I can figure out is that I defended Trump from a person that was spreading lies about him nothing else and I did it in a respectful way. Nevertheless no one has the right to sensor someone for their opinion!
Are you in the USA cause it’s only happening there so far Facebook has to do what’s its told else where till they say they can and most will tell him to you know what cause it will never happen
@ well I think so since I live in Alabama and was born in Puerto Rico USA but that shouldn’t matter because our speech is a God given right and no person should ever take it from you no matter where you are from! That’s why we have the first amendment while other countries don’t!! God bless America!!
Ya seriously important 14 million women in Afghanistan aren't allowed to talk in public but here you are worried about social media you can choose not to use...
@@takumifujiwara9181 the problem is people use it here to share information about how companies are screwing us and destroying the environment- and we also use it to talk to one another if we dont live in the same area. people also use it to grow their business, and share events. so due to these things we have become reliant on it.
This has been in the works for YEARS. I and fellow FB friends would be put in "FB jail" for posting items from reputable news sources while Far-Right propaganda and full-on HATE SPEECH would be allowed to remain on FB.
@@Curt-Gevert Unless you're a MAGAt, images of NEO-NAZIS with hateful rhetoric is something I consider hate speech. As well as Transgender people being called disgusting things. CAPÍCE?
@@mizzou1016 the liars enjoy being lied to, and the chaos it brings. Destroying America is what's happening. I hope all the idiots who voted for the lies, and the liars lose everything first.
It is *AMAZING* to me that Amy Goodman is advocating for *CENSORSHIP*... My working theory is that it is because of *AUDIENCE* *Capture* ... meaning she is captured by her audience.. If she don't go along with the New liberals then she loses audience and money.
I think she is just a poser, and is as corrupt as anyone else. Or else why did she stop inviting Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald and Chris Hedges on the show once they began telling the truth about our own tribe? Why did she interview every fringe candidate but refused to interview RFK jr when even main stream media began to interview him. Amy and her crew are FAKES!
"This is not a free speech issue". RIP Democracy Never P.S. 3 guests and zero counterpoints, points of disagreement or debate. Just a unified segment, with all participants harmoniously singing the praises of censorship and stoking fear of free speech. DN no longer reports to its audience, but instead gives instruction to them on how to think and feel. I remember when DN used to love Glenn Greenwald, but someone like Glenn would not only disagree with them that this is "not a free speech issue" but also argue circles around these guests in defense of free speech, and frankly embarrass this fraudulent "news show", which really deserves to be ridiculed for producing these kinds of segments. So, it was wise of DN to exclude any dissenting voices like his, and I thank you, for making it more clear than ever before that your allegiance is to a narrative and not to the truth.
Everybody gotcha have right to express their own opinions and choices politically, economically, culturally, democratically, socially & scientifically; guided by constitutional rules and regulations; of a country..
@@paulmaclean5549 Who's going to fact-check the fact-checkers? People can think critically for themselves, and if they can't perhaps instead of fact-checkers, we could tag posts, "Don't uncritically accept everything you read on the internet as fact without doing any independent verification". Critical thinking is not something you outsource to a corporation, for God's sake, unless you actually *want* to infantilize people.
What you're saying is Facebook will no longer act as if they were the thought-police? Good. Social media censorship is outrageous. Censorship shouldn't be tolerated... that is a bad road to go down.
People do shit research and senior citizens watching news channels especially on RUclips are tech illiterate. Can't blame them. He should have worded it better.
I'm getting really sick and tired of being told that other people's thoughts and feelings are making me unsafe. It must be so nice to live in a world so far removed from physical violence that your biggest fear is imaginary violence
I mean, doesn't violence originate in the thoughts and feelings people have about others? And isn't manipulating those thoughts and feelings to stoke hate and rage against vulnerable groups therefore dangerous? These things don't exist in a vacuum, you know.
@@TheArcaneMaster Weak minded people are always going to be susceptible to manipulation you aren't going to change it. Same with people who have violent urges they're always going to find an avenue and probably going to act out on it.
All he has done is jump from one pocket to another. He jumped from corporate fake left i.e Democrats to so called right wing corporate interests said Republicans. A big game . He is playing for money like the rest of them . We allow it by continuing to play . Think about it.
I too have reported more than several posts which were clearly misinformation and/or hate speech, and it just said ''thanks for reporting, this doesn't go against our community standards''.
There’s a difference between voicing your opinion vs making objectively false claims. Freedom of speech is freedom to voice your subjective views, not to freely give out blatantly false information.
@ I disagree. And that’s the point - to allow people to think for themselves. Because… Who checks the checkers? And why should grown adults be infantilized by not being trusted to discern and think for themselves? Where is the line between someone’s opinion you disagree with and “objectively false claims?” A very slippery slope into full-on Orwell. (If he were alive, he’d be kicking himself for not coming up with the term “fact checkers” himself.)
Your "freedom of speech" granted you by the government does not extend to privately owned websites. Think of it like this: You walk into a church, grab the mic from the pastor's hand, and start talking about how much you dislike immigrants. Do the members of the church just have to put up with this because "freedom of speech?" Nope. Not even close. NO ONE owes you a platform to spew whatever personal opinions you have. Only the government has an agreement with you (via the constitution) that even comes close to offering you such. And even then... all other individuals have the right to come back at you and fact-check you, and tell you you are wrong, and shame you, and even OSTRACIZE you - and that is ALL COVERED UNDER THEIR FREEDOMS OF SPEECH.
I have never had a reported post on Facebook every result in a removal, even when it's clear-cut hate speech, misinformation, harassment or other. I'm convinced this is a "feel good" button that sends reports to a black hole.
Believing that fact checker websites cannot be misleading, inaccurate, or biased, is foolish. We already know (via well documented Congressional testimony) that our intelligence agencies like to embed themselves in mainstream journalism. It would follow that they would also seek to create or co-opt hubs of "official truth" to support official narratives. Those of us who have remained true to progressive values and skeptical of censorship have been lumped in with MAGA, because apparently the political entrance of Donald Trump was enough to show how tribalist and unprincipled the rest of you are.
The way to fight bad speech is with good speech, not censorship. Present good arguments and you might convince people. Problem is presenting good arguments is not a hallmark of these people, so they need censorship.
Начинът да се борим с лошата реч е с добра реч, а не с цензура. Представете добри аргументи и може да убедите хората. Проблемът е, че представянето на добри аргументи не е отличителен белег на тези хора, така че те се нуждаят от цензура.
@Curt-Gevert maybe your side is the one that doesn't present good arguments. It's not the speech that you like that needs protection.. it's the speech that you don't like that does.
@DemocracyNow You've got to do better. Journalism is about Informing and Educating the public, not framing things in a particular way as to be divisive or one-sided. Censorship is Not the way forward, nor are click-bait Headlines... Make JOURNALISM Great Again
Other people get cancelled too - like Lee Camp, Chris Hedges, Glenn Greenwald, and many others who are not under suspicion to be MAGA. A lot of the fact checking was overdone, especially during the pandemic. And what is considered hate speech or not is also pretty biased. Always depends on who does it, and whom it addresses.
...and Matt Taibbi....Dem Now interviewed Marianne Williamson, Jill Stein, and Cornell West during their candidacies, but they worked with the corrupt DNC to censor RFK jr. How'd that work out for ya, AMY? What hypocrites there are on this infotainment show, speaking about authoritarianism happening as a result of free speech. What a pathetic joke.
RUclips is already full of misinformation and bots. RUclips allows major channels to spread disinformation about Ukraine and does nothing against hateful messages/disinformation. But if you say something bad about America or spread misinformation, RUclips will take action.
Truly the most hair raising discussion I have ever heard in the past 20 years. Billionaires controlling the mindless slaves to the internet. To paraphrase Alice Cooper, "We're all drones, all for one and one for all."
I have friends I only contact on Facebook. I will be leaving as I refuse to ever use Twitter/x. Facebook is a little more embedded in my life but I will leave.
You will feel free if you get off. If they can't make the small effort to reach out to you they were never your friends in the first place, or are lazy POS and you should find people who aren't like that. You only need 6 or so really good friends anyway.
People are so quick to boycott anything that goes against what they’re told is bad. When did Facebook become such a trusted news source anyway? People need to get their news elsewhere or just read a book for once, theres a whole world outside of these apps. Facebook is great for keeping up with old friends, distant relatives and finding local events.
The question is, will people leave because they won’t tolerate no facts or just repeat the same crap Zuckerberg is allowing to be on Trump’s good side who’ll screw him anyway.
Less Censorship is ALWAYS a good thing. It doesnt matter what the motives are. Facebook was horrible before and will be in the future. Down with ALL arbiters of "Truth"!
So, hopefully the difference will start with the US. With the change to Meta, many of us were upset because as a woman and a person of color, I am one of those who has been attacked and has had my page, that I have had since 2013, attempted to be taken down. I see this Change as a gift. It allows those of us who have been doing the fat checking, for years, but we’re being reported and almost shut down, some of my friends pages have been shut down, and their pages have been taken over by hateful people. This change with meta-allows those of us who have become more cordial, polite, sarcastic, with our fact, checking and are fighting on the front lines, oh how I hate to say that as a USAF vet, of the Internet to shut down these lies and combat it with truth. It took some time, but now instead of me blocking the Maga and the hateful and the trolls, they now block me. Lifting this free for all on all of these sites, does not make me want to run to a new site, it invigorates me and the others that I’m encouraging to stay put and fight. If we continue to not fact, check people who are spreading lies, we lose. And yes, I am extra energized. Now that I have family who have lost homes in the recent LA county fires. The lies that continued to be spread while people are losing their lives and their livelihood is disgusting. And I will continue to battle those lies. I think everyone else should put on their big boy or big girl britches, and learn the art of nice nasty: It’s a lot of truth, with a lot of politeness, and a little sarcasm.
So why did Elon Musk silence members of the Maga movement who only criticised the H1B1 visas yet he never censored them same ones for their NAAAAZEEEE views? Could it be that free speech is only allowed if it is deemed acceptable by establishment and not contrary to their objectives?
Censorship of hate speech, lies, reality denial, racism, fascism is a public good. Fascists hate fact checking, as this comment section demonstrates clearly.
Never been a better time to abandon FB in droves
Don't forget X will watching HIS back like they own him.
What’s the new Independent SM Platform ….. SkyBlue or BlueSky?
Time to rally that one up!!
Never got on Facebook, Instagram or Threads. I told my friends that I wouldn't give one dollar to Zuck. Email me a picture, if you want. Refused to get an Amazon account rarely purchased anything from the service. Can find anything I want locally
Hear that.
@@andrinabroussard1972Bluesky has been pretty great for me!
I left Facebook many years ago, after reporting them for offensive posts ( including child & animal abuse ), at least a dozen times, only to be told that these posts would not be removed as they did not go against Facebook's guidelines.
If you don't like what you see or read then don't... remove it from your feed it's that simple. It's not like you're actually preventing anything from happening by reporting people on Facebook.
@@fireteamomega2343If it's images of illegal acts, why not report? You can then quit.
@@fireteamomega2343 This is why "fact-checking" is pointless. You can check all the facts you want, but if there's child porn on FB, that's just as bad, if not worse. Yet, the fact-checkers don't care about that. The fact-checking community are hypocrites.
these men are so small
That's what I thought.
It's clear what Zuckerberg would've done in 1933. You don't eliminate fact checking, you keep working on it. Unless of course you're kissing the ring of the self proclaimed dictator.
I like free speech
"men"
@ what is a man?
Not forgetting how many kids comited suicide due to bullying on Facebook.
In part, yes, but kids have been bullied for a millenia up to the modern day, yet the kids of the past did not perform suicide at the rate it is today. To blame Facebook or whatever social network out there is lazy. The kids of today have little to no mental fortitude and resilience - they cannot even hold a phone call with anyone now, according to a report by the BBC.
So instagram?
not forgetting how many Palestinian children are exterminated because of all the lies on social media by Biden and Harris.
yep, these kid read fact check about they'll never look like their favorite Taylor Swift because they're just kids and TS is an adult. And some of them thinks they're male but has a body of a female.. they've been burdened by what has been
sounds like a parental issue honestly
We can let go of our dependence on social media if it’s no longer in integrity.
Dependencies on social media? You never had your integrity😅
@@24kanthonybillionaire simp bot
Yes we can, but what about the many others who stay online, who become radicalised? that hatred does spill out onto the streets ( i doubt the victims at the Pulse nightclub in Florida, in the mosques in Christchurch, many Rohynga villagers in Myanmar saw it coming
When has it EVER had integrity?
@markschdroski1645 You don't get to be the thought police.
Stop oppressing people, and less people will become violent.
Suppression of speech is asking for violence.
Leave Facebook. Just leave it.
Cannot believe people still use it. I'm sure it's 99% bots
@@1MarkKeller Run!!!!!
We don’t need it really. None of it.
Deleted my account yesterday. Made me very happy.
@nostromo7928 I'm working on that. I got rid of Instagram and Thread the other day.
I'm going to try BlueSky and FanBase.
Good bye Facebook, ill be dropping my account, free Palestine
The same content they do not allow when it comes to Palestine awareness will now be allowed. At least it should be if not, it is not really true. Free speech.
@@elchicano187 So they'll finally allow discussion of an apparent, ongoing genocide, but only if you can be racist. Got it. Yeah, no. I deleted my account.
@@kellywright5282troll
@@kellywright5282troll
@@kellywright5282 nope
It's time we start to ban social media completely. What good has it done?
You must be old then because using it is part of the new world
@@ericsilva-gomez2481 Gen X I was using dial up bulletin boards. Before you were born. No fact checking will lead to Idiocracy.
@@newstroll982 ja, ja, führer.
@@ericsilva-gomez2481 that sounds so stupid and naive that it makes you sound so much younger than you probably are. If he’s old, that means he has wisdom and has lived long enough to see what you can’t. But sure, blindly embrace the “new world” like a typical bot
@@ChronoMune well then if he has lived long enough then he can just stay off social media, no need to ban it
Does he realize that this decision is also politically biased? What a disgrace
What the hell do you think FB was before these changes, balanced? Seriously?
@@mattdrummond9087 biased "to make it more easily biased" 'cause $.
Seriously. Simp harder.
Of course he realizes it he gave Trump a million dollars.
Grifter's marketA
Exactly! This move also serves an agenda, but of course they choose to ignore it
Stop using FB and all it products
Right now there are only 12 countries who banned facebook. I hope that will be more in the near future.
we encourage you all to stop using facebook
We hate this so you must hate it and not use it too! North Korea agrees yall should move there
@@takumifujiwara9181 Why in the world would you defend FACEBOOK? Why?
Most we know; friends across the globe are mass exiting Meta.
Deleted Facebook, instagram and Amazon. I ❤facts.
We have to teach them WE have the power the consumer
Then shouldn't you support this. The "Fact Checkers" were biased. This is well known
Like men can be women? Those kinds of facts?
Fortunately, I only had FB (and Messenger) to delete.
I only use IG to expose zionism, does it count?
The guy who made a website to perve out on college girls is a bad guy? Who could have seen this coming?
he liked women when he was 19 so that means... that means what exactly? can you explain yourself?
@@monitorlizard9971 It's okay, you'll never get it
Calling men a wallet is ok but calling women a household appliance is going too far! This comment sections logic is actually insane
@@monitorlizard9971liking women =\= operating an anon website dedicated to rating young womens looks like theyre yelp resteraunts
liking women =\= operating an anon website dedicated to rating young womens looks like theyre yelp resteraunts
Democrats and Republicans just don’t want anyone saying “Free Palestine”.
Probably because they know that Palestine is a terrorist network and the enemy of the free world.
The so called 'deepstate' is pulling the strings in both the republican and democratic party. We're living in a shadow democracy.
Pave Gaza
Pave yourself and your family. @@larryross1819
@@larryross1819the sociopath simp bot thread is over there >>>>>>🚯
people should stop using such platforms and start talking to your neighbours
Just stop using meta products and don't have an X account, simple!
Bluesky ❤
@@Zagar099 Not sure if I want to use Bluesky to be honest
I do not know google is much better. However, I will no longer use FB and stopped using X
@@Zagar099 not sure about bluesky to be honest
@@steverogers9453 Genuinely curious as to why? :)
I just deleted my FB and WhatsApp account, and I'm proud of boycotting against MAGA!
so it was ok for FB to not fact check Biden and Harris lies about Oct 7 and ongoing genocide? got it.
You're boycotting making the country you live in better? You sound smart
@@iluvjay6911 "You're boycotting making the country you live in better? You sound smart"
if you think allowing hate speech and lies to go unchecked is making the country better, then you're factually a mistake.
no one cares. lol.
It's never "deleted". It's deactivated but always in a cloud😮
Sounds good if I can have free speech when discussing Zionism !
Democrats won’t let you, neither will Republicans. That’s all both parties care about really.
The democrats have been hell in a handbasket agianst free speech.... They have had also supported right wing economic policy as well.
@@urrywestthey arec2 sides of the same aipac coin
That's Anti zemetic 😮
Yes! I hate getting lumped in with MAGA for being anti-censorship.
Wow. Stopping censorship sure seems unpopular with a lot of people who don't admit to being Fascists!
Fact checking is stopping false information and some bullying online. With checks now being mob rule you will see trolls getting people banned just because they don't like a comment or a shared post. Watch the Maga Cult ruin it.
@@ronstephen-wy4ib Censorship is the height of vanity.
Increasing falsehoods, misinformation and hate speech is indeed unpopular with those opposing fascism.
just cancelled facebook
I am considering it, as well! I have used FB together with my fellow men and women to rescue and find forever homes for dogs&cats. It proved very useful for our work. Need to plan replacement first.
@@PampiliciRUclips cause if you stay on Facebook just says you allow people to harm your loved ones deleted mine yesterday if anyone tried hurting my family like he’s trying to I know what I do what would you do
Me 2
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Before elections in Czech Republic (EU), my civil political discussion was censored by either RUclips or Facebook.
I consider this an interference of the USA in Czech elections.
So you support the changes...?
The algorithms are indifferent to content quality, but it is easier to shadow ban than to understand the truth. I feel ya.
I deleted Facebook and Instagram, didn’t know threads was his but will delete that also.
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Why? If someone writes something you don't like, you don't have to read anymore comments from them and you can block them.
@@Curt-Gevert agreed. I don't understand the other person's logic here.
same. done with these Thought Control businesses. i’d rather read a zine from some kid in my neighborhood
@@steverogers9453 did you actually watch the video? It's pretty obvious and easy to understand...because users and usage/engagement (of any kind) is how FB makes money, and how Zuck lines his pockets. If FB can't be bothered to keep up with fact checking while the world is getting buried under an avalanche of willfull disinformation, misinformation, and hate, the previous poster obviously feels like they will get limited value by subjecting themselves to this inundation of crap content, and they certainly don't want to reward FB with their patronage.
Censorship is wrong. Meta Fact Checkers SUCK!
Where have you been the last 10 years? Or is it only a problem when your cult doesn’t get their way?
@NoPrisoners7 - Try walking into a church, grabbing the mic from the pastor's hand, and then using it to talk about how much you don't like immigrants. Do the pastor and other church members just have to put up with your rant because "freedom of speech"? No. That isn't how it works. If someone doesn't want to be represented by YOUR words, then it is protected within THEIR FREEDOMS OF SPEECH to demonstrate that they do not agree with you. And a privately owned website is 100% within their rights to moderate the content that represents them online.
I was banned from Facebook. Thank goodness.
😂what did you say?
Two of my friends called it Facebook jail when they got banned for an indefinite period of time
More power to you. I have always avoided it.
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I finally quit and deleted my Facebook, and I encourage everyone I know to do so. From here out, it's going to have no purpose but propaganda and 'crafting' public opinion.
We're living Orwellian times.😢
How so? Because FB isn't censoring anymore? Isn't censoring free speech Orwellian?
He was just one century off.
@@LondonView-q4x40 years, a few decades.
Wait, when they say that they're going to stop censoring what we say, that's the orwellian times? I'm confused
Quizás tiempos peores que esos ,estamos en tiempos muy oscuros
Facebook has now become Fascbook. Time to delete my account with them.
freedom of expression is the exact opposite of fascism.... can you explain yourself?
What is fascist about not censoring people?
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I don't think you understand what fascism is... the internet should be a public space where anyone can say anything they want even things you don't agree with
When the definition of "fascism" is allowing speech that you disagree with.
What are they trying to do to this country in the next 4 years?
more fun.
less feminine bullshit
Benito Mussolini, he coined the term fascism, had the full support of the wealthy and the companies in Italy that saw a distinct advantage of taking power away from the people. It took too long but Mussolini became despised by the people. So much so that they hung his dead body by the toes in Milan so that people would see that he was no longer in charge anymore.
Bankrupt, billionaires, and Trump's empire building.
To brainwash atleast 1 Generation
As I watch the vid, I find it disturbing that Meta's headquarter address is 1 Hacker Way. They just playing in everyone's faces at this point. Did anyone else spot that?
I just googled it. The elite always put symbolism out there for us to see but most do not notice
sounds like a far right wing conspiracy
When i was growing up we idolized musicians or athletes. Now the billionaires are personalities. Its so sad
It seems like it is only the obnoxious billionaires who attract these sycophant cults. Powerless people who are endeared and feel empowered by wealth and master morality.
Except they lack any “personality” because they worship money.
Es de locos
@@Chunkylover11 The good news is that many of the well-meaning people who were fooled into believing these billionaires are a net good have soured on the idea. You can find quite a few out there, for instance, that will openly say they are embarrassed that they ever thought Elon was a genius.
Idolizing wasn't good then and it isn't now.
He should be removed as a CEO from Meta. He’s a spineless little Backstabber that no one is ever gonna trust again no matter what happens in the next election.
Yeah he acting like Trump blackmailing him!
Sticks and stones can beak bones but words can only offend us. Dump or ignore social media and focus on legal protections and protecting women and cultural minorities from religious oppression.
The democrats' preferred self-image as the champions of the little guy, but that runs head-on into the democrats' reality. It is not the party of working people anymore. In fact, the democrat party hates working people. Working people like God, families, guns, and America, which makes them racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and probably fatist. What do democrats offer the working class? More lectures? More limits? More hardships? You can't have cars, you can't have steaks, and you certainly can't have a rifle. You can have subways full of homicidal hobos, cash giveaways to Ukrainians and Third World peasant invaders, and government employees trying to talk your son into becoming your daughter.
but never forget that religions are the first ones to opress especially women. and words have always been the cause of insurrection and death.
@@Monkismo “Those who call for censorship in the name of the oppressed ought to recognize it is never the oppressed who determine the bounds of censorship.”
oya I heard women are going extinct or something. theyre being forced to work construction jobs and shit lol I saw a woman the other day with a callous on her hand it was the first time I ever saw that in my life. times have changed. oh boy.
All these comments saying they'll delete FB and boycott Meta meanwhile in Afghanistan 14 million women aren't allowed to talk in public... what a fucked up world we live in
So, it’s kind of nice that billionaires can’t buy class, integrity, or normal looks.
The fact check was abused and amused during COVID. I don’t mind it leaving. People don’t take them seriously anyways, sadly.
The problem with free speech is there's no cost for lies.
Boop! 🤫
And so what... you've never been lied to before... are you unable to use discernment ?
This is like starting to allow rats and roaches in restaurants.
Ha!
Perfect analogy
“it's NOT about FreeSpeech; it's about the Free Market of Speech”
THANK YOU for sharing that decernment- knowledge w/us.
The Zuck memes have been outstanding 😂
What this implies is greater social division and unrest. Which in turn creates greater segregation among the working class, who should unite rather than fight against each other. This is not the ideological/cultural war they want to sell to us, this is a class war.
@@yubia5216 what are you talking about?
literally has nothing to do with free speech bro. what are you even talking about?
@@monitorlizard9971 Listen to Maria Ressa again. At the end of the day these platforms are owned by billionaires with private interests, these are great tools for behavior modification and social manipulation. This ''free speech'' that they sell is just greater dissemination of hate speech and misinformation. The social division that occurs in these platforms as a result are beneficial for those in power to keep manipulating the population. Trump is an example of this power at use.
The masses dont care. As long as they have their food delivery and TV shows they are fine with being enslaved lobotomised cattle.
dude you need a break from the internet
Already deleted my facebook and I'm in the UK so he hasn't said he will do it here yet but saw how awful twitter became.
LOL yet using a google account to post your comment is ok. You ppl are all insane and cherry pick what is ok when its convenient. The only ppl that even still use FB are old ppl
I haven’t used my FB in 5 years but will fully delete it today.
Why would you have ever let them keep your data that long??
@ my data was fake
So weak is a looser
English sound smart so do what he says in smart england ... talkabout bending the knee... it wont work means you vired fir kamala
So stupid are peiple who partisipate in this . Do you take pics of yourself as the day passes?
4 stages of governmental response:
a) Deny - No, we didn't do it.
b) Admit - Yes, we did it. So what? Others did it, too.
c) Warn - So, what are you going to do about it?
d) Threaten - You didn't hear what you heard.
e) This is the moment, where the citizens have to arm themselves and go against their government.
Sounds like the American Democratic party....
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I'm already "educated," friend. Whatever "democracy" we did have was extinguished in 1963, when the ruling oligarchy (CIA, MIC, etc.) eliminated JFK. Since then, whichever party has been in power is the servant of that oligarchy. We currently reside in a welfare/warfare state, not a democracy or republic. The government serves the oligarchy and vice versa. To cast a vote for either major party is in reality to cast a vote for the "uniparty." Sad, but true.
@@bobiel9048 “It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.”
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All people suffer from the government.
But the ones who support it suffer less.
Meanwhile just today they blocked my post of a story about a young black girl being a math genius.
And they say they don't have an agenda...okay
Doesn't fit their narrative.
I just had a Quora question in a queer Space deleted by their bot, which was related to sexual orientation and gender.... Quora said it had 'sexual content'. There isn't even a direct way to appeal. Literally NO ONE who responded saw it as inappropriate. That's why bots shouldn't be content moderating. They missed context while just scrolling for trigger words
Why is Zuckerberg dressed like Vinny from Jersey Shore. I got rid of all Meta apps long ago. Using Tick Tack and RUclips only.
😂 I wondered that too. Maybe he thinks that's what the common man wears
Or a humiliation ritual enforced by daddy trump
@@tinaferr they dont call him Mork Suckerborg for nothing
freedom of speech does not stop where your feelings start
@@ScottLeeRockshow true but responsibility does. (The ability to respond) as we move higher consciousness, our soul aspect will guide us to look at things deeply show us where we are focusing our energy. Is it on division or is it on honoring and loving our fellows even when they have different opinions look different from us speak different from us act different from us. In the end, what we see before us is always a mirror to where we are in our mastery.
goodbye facebook
"Fact" checking was always a biased tool
I'm seriously considering deleting Facebook from my phone and delete my account (they make the latter intentionally hard)
Do it..make a statement today.
Same! WTF! His jaw must hurt
Do it now.
Goodbye facebook
“Fact checking” and “hate speech” are distinctly different things. Many things are considered hate speech that isn’t hate speech. For example if I make a good point against a feminist or lgbtq talking point then my comment is removed and I can’t make comments on RUclips for a day.
I'm so sick of this gaslighting. Free speech life blood of our Democratic Principles so much so that we must tolerate the views of those we do not always agree with.
Yes but it's too bad that so many people accept social media "facts" from random people, Russian bots etc
Honestly, it's very simple. Give people the option to read a post, but if there is evidence to the contrary, provide a disclaimer and links to pages where conflicting information can be found. Hell, you can even label it as false or misleading and provide evidence to back it up. This can even be done with LLMs now, but it would require a shit ton of compute. The issue is programming the AI in a way that it doesn't exhibit any kind of political bias, like its makers. But it can be done and should be done. It would lead to a civilization of better-informed and more critical-thinking individuals.
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The issue always boils down to censor or don't censor. It's getting to the point now where we're advanced enough technologically where the question shouldn't be how to censor misleading information, as it has always been done in the past, but instead, how do we use our technology to educate people about the facts. The problem is that social media may seem like a breeding ground for this kind of misinformation, but people socialize regardless of its existence, and misinformation will spread even in its absence. All social media does is accelerate the spread of misinformation, but it can also be used to accelerate the spread of facts.
Hear, hear! Well observed.
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Is it hate speech because you don't like it or is it free speech that you don't like? Why do I have to say these things
That is not the same thing as fact checking. If a lie is repeated often enough people will start to believe it. This is why you need actual fact checking.
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“Censorship reflects a society’s lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime…”
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@@nancykraus5127 fosho homie in fact why don't you go fact check all the christian and muslim posts by saying god doesn't exist theres no evidence
@@nancykraus5127Who fact checks the fact checkers? X's community notes are proving way more effective than Twitter's left leaning biased fact checkers.
@@VERCINGET0RIXFACT checking isn't censorship
It’s a lie because I still haven’t been reinstated on Facebook after being suspended for one of my opinions
Wow. How bad WERE you that you didn't even get reinstated?
Wow. What did you post about? Utube is horrid about menial comments, and utube jail for 24 hrs. I love utube, I learn alot, and love my favorite channels. I just don't say to much negative, it actually has helped me, even if I don't agree, I think " if I don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all." AND that's a good trait to have. 🥰
HattieLankford-24 the big problem with getting suspended especially in my case is that they never tell why just that you said something they don’t agree about and to go to instagram and talk to them about it. The only thing I can figure out is that I defended Trump from a person that was spreading lies about him nothing else and I did it in a respectful way. Nevertheless no one has the right to sensor someone for their opinion!
Are you in the USA cause it’s only happening there so far Facebook has to do what’s its told else where till they say they can and most will tell him to you know what cause it will never happen
@ well I think so since I live in Alabama and was born in Puerto Rico USA but that shouldn’t matter because our speech is a God given right and no person should ever take it from you no matter where you are from! That’s why we have the first amendment while other countries don’t!! God bless America!!
This is so important. Thank you Democracy Now team for REAL investigative journalism.
this is not real. it's a meltdown.
the word is craptivism not journalism
nice cat! (we have seven)
Ya seriously important 14 million women in Afghanistan aren't allowed to talk in public but here you are worried about social media you can choose not to use...
@@takumifujiwara9181 the problem is people use it here to share information about how companies are screwing us and destroying the environment- and we also use it to talk to one another if we dont live in the same area. people also use it to grow their business, and share events. so due to these things we have become reliant on it.
This has been in the works for YEARS. I and fellow FB friends would be put in "FB jail" for posting items from reputable news sources while Far-Right propaganda and full-on HATE SPEECH would be allowed to remain on FB.
What is 'Hate Speech'? Can you point to specific examples of it?
@@Curt-Gevertfind it yourself.
@@Curt-Gevert Unless you're a MAGAt, images of NEO-NAZIS with hateful rhetoric is something I consider hate speech. As well as Transgender people being called disgusting things. CAPÍCE?
@@Curt-GevertA simple example would be the use of the n word (hard r) to attack someone of color.
Yup. I've been shadow banned for YEARS because of speaking out against corruption and evil. Once a Fascist, always a Fascist.
Social media is antisocial
The beginning of the end
Let's leave Facebook to MAGA, and see what that gets him.
Let's not go back when he comes back around with the policy changes
Another 4 years of making America great again is what it’ll get him. We back baby!
@@mizzou1016 the liars enjoy being lied to, and the chaos it brings. Destroying America is what's happening. I hope all the idiots who voted for the lies, and the liars lose everything first.
Glad I'm not one of his users
It is *AMAZING* to me that Amy Goodman is advocating for *CENSORSHIP*... My working theory is that it is because of *AUDIENCE* *Capture* ... meaning she is captured by her audience.. If she don't go along with the New liberals then she loses audience and money.
Controlled opposition?
I think she is just a poser, and is as corrupt as anyone else. Or else why did she stop inviting Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald and Chris Hedges on the show once they began telling the truth about our own tribe? Why did she interview every fringe candidate but refused to interview RFK jr when even main stream media began to interview him. Amy and her crew are FAKES!
"This is not a free speech issue". RIP Democracy Never P.S. 3 guests and zero counterpoints, points of disagreement or debate. Just a unified segment, with all participants harmoniously singing the praises of censorship and stoking fear of free speech. DN no longer reports to its audience, but instead gives instruction to them on how to think and feel. I remember when DN used to love Glenn Greenwald, but someone like Glenn would not only disagree with them that this is "not a free speech issue" but also argue circles around these guests in defense of free speech, and frankly embarrass this fraudulent "news show", which really deserves to be ridiculed for producing these kinds of segments. So, it was wise of DN to exclude any dissenting voices like his, and I thank you, for making it more clear than ever before that your allegiance is to a narrative and not to the truth.
I don’t use social media platforms!
Once in awhile I'll visit, but I've never had an account.
what do you call youtube?
Everybody gotcha have right to express their own opinions and choices politically, economically, culturally, democratically, socially & scientifically; guided by constitutional rules and regulations; of a country..
That's right. Good on you for stating the obvious, because sometimes it needs to be stated.
I agree i think this is good
Yes opinions are valid but when presented a a factual statement. A fact checker tag should explain it's a opinion not a fact
@@paulmaclean5549 Who's going to fact-check the fact-checkers? People can think critically for themselves, and if they can't perhaps instead of fact-checkers, we could tag posts, "Don't uncritically accept everything you read on the internet as fact without doing any independent verification". Critical thinking is not something you outsource to a corporation, for God's sake, unless you actually *want* to infantilize people.
Except for communists. They don’t believe in it so they don’t deserve it.
I used to like Twitter, nut X has become BS
What you're saying is Facebook will no longer act as if they were the thought-police?
Good. Social media censorship is outrageous. Censorship shouldn't be tolerated... that is a bad road to go down.
You can't be that dim. They aren't thought policing.
They're pimping hate speech, violence, and genocide.
Censorship of hate speech, racism, corrupt enterprises, scams, lies and reality denial is a public good.
Claiming community contributions as opposed to fact checkers to be a move towards authoritarianism is wild.
These people think that censorship is the way to fight fascism
Every little bit helps
People do shit research and senior citizens watching news channels especially on RUclips are tech illiterate. Can't blame them. He should have worded it better.
I'm getting really sick and tired of being told that other people's thoughts and feelings are making me unsafe. It must be so nice to live in a world so far removed from physical violence that your biggest fear is imaginary violence
I mean, doesn't violence originate in the thoughts and feelings people have about others? And isn't manipulating those thoughts and feelings to stoke hate and rage against vulnerable groups therefore dangerous? These things don't exist in a vacuum, you know.
@@24kanthony good thing Trump is protecting the second amendment
@heArcaneMaster actually that's not how it works. If you are scared of the truth oh well
@@TheArcaneMaster
Weak minded people are always going to be susceptible to manipulation you aren't going to change it. Same with people who have violent urges they're always going to find an avenue and probably going to act out on it.
Hitler's thoughts and actions were not good for millions of people.
Is Zuck auditioning for The Bee Gees? If so, may I suggest a larger medallion on the gold chain.
He's just trying to staying alive, staying alive...hahaha 😂😂
@ It’s only words…and words are all I have to get your business back
@@justinsadowski9823 bee gees song
If all the progressives quit social media won't that undermine it to the point where everyone will see it for what it is?
All he has done is jump from one pocket to another. He jumped from corporate fake left i.e Democrats to so called right wing corporate interests said Republicans.
A big game . He is playing for money like the rest of them . We allow it by continuing to play . Think about it.
Yep. And a number of other billionaires are/have been following that same trajectory.
I too have reported more than several posts which were clearly misinformation and/or hate speech, and it just said ''thanks for reporting, this doesn't go against our community standards''.
Same! Insane!
Wait, so... You're upset that there will be LESS censorship and MORE freedom of speech?!
Freedom of speech was never an issue. The right complained they were poor silenced lambs yet I heard their "opinions" louder then anyone else.
@ Actually, censorship IS a freedom of speech issue and it transcends the meaningless “right vs. left”.
There’s a difference between voicing your opinion vs making objectively false claims. Freedom of speech is freedom to voice your subjective views, not to freely give out blatantly false information.
@ I disagree. And that’s the point - to allow people to think for themselves. Because… Who checks the checkers? And why should grown adults be infantilized by not being trusted to discern and think for themselves? Where is the line between someone’s opinion you disagree with and “objectively false claims?” A very slippery slope into full-on Orwell. (If he were alive, he’d be kicking himself for not coming up with the term “fact checkers” himself.)
@@queenredspecial It's tough to break through their indoctrination. They're brought up hating free speech while we were brought up to treasure it.
We'll know when we've achieved free speech when we can openly criticize Zionism and Israel.
Wow more free speech is Authoritarian now. The Mental Gymnastics this guest are performing is ridiculous.
@@adcgaming432 sounds a lot like doublethink, if you ask me.
democrats hate free speech... it allows people to remind everyone that democrats are also the party of confederates.
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Your "freedom of speech" granted you by the government does not extend to privately owned websites. Think of it like this: You walk into a church, grab the mic from the pastor's hand, and start talking about how much you dislike immigrants. Do the members of the church just have to put up with this because "freedom of speech?" Nope. Not even close. NO ONE owes you a platform to spew whatever personal opinions you have. Only the government has an agreement with you (via the constitution) that even comes close to offering you such. And even then... all other individuals have the right to come back at you and fact-check you, and tell you you are wrong, and shame you, and even OSTRACIZE you - and that is ALL COVERED UNDER THEIR FREEDOMS OF SPEECH.
They invert things same old playbook
I have never had a reported post on Facebook every result in a removal, even when it's clear-cut hate speech, misinformation, harassment or other. I'm convinced this is a "feel good" button that sends reports to a black hole.
Facebook attacks black.users for hate speech
While letting others slide
SAME. So frustrating! Even extreme animal cruelty from vegan accounts
Deleted my account. Aok 👌 no more META.
Why? If someone writes something you don't like, you don't have to read anymore comments from them and you can block them.
I walked away from Facebook YEARS ago. I was sick of the BS lies posted. I'd suggest all Americans do the same.
This is digital Warfare! Welcome to the age of Skynet‼️
How so? Because FB isn't censoring anymore? Isn't censoring free speech Orwellian?
But censorship didn't bother you? 😳
@@queenredspecial Everyone that doesn't believe the same way this person does must be censored as hate speech, that is what they believe.
@@queenredspecial They don't want to be subject of censorship. They just want everyone else to be censored.
He is right, fact-checkers are incredibly biased.
Hitler was incredibly biased and a mass-murderer.
Trump is incredibly biased and a pathological liar.
Remember when Freedom of Speech was popular in the US? Zuckerberg remembers.
Remember when calling yourself a "Liberal" meant you believed in liberty (which includes free speech)
love how nobody is seeing the massive connections between these media companies and Israel.
I see the connections. Amazon gave a lot of money to Israel recently. The New World Order is upon us.
Facts are woke apparently… 😂
You were being lied to. Men can't become women. That's a cold hard fact....but it's also what the left wants removed from social media. Facts.
Believing that fact checker websites cannot be misleading, inaccurate, or biased, is foolish. We already know (via well documented Congressional testimony) that our intelligence agencies like to embed themselves in mainstream journalism. It would follow that they would also seek to create or co-opt hubs of "official truth" to support official narratives. Those of us who have remained true to progressive values and skeptical of censorship have been lumped in with MAGA, because apparently the political entrance of Donald Trump was enough to show how tribalist and unprincipled the rest of you are.
The way to fight bad speech is with good speech, not censorship. Present good arguments and you might convince people. Problem is presenting good arguments is not a hallmark of these people, so they need censorship.
Начинът да се борим с лошата реч е с добра реч, а не с цензура. Представете добри аргументи и може да убедите хората. Проблемът е, че представянето на добри аргументи не е отличителен белег на тези хора, така че те се нуждаят от цензура.
@Curt-Gevert maybe your side is the one that doesn't present good arguments. It's not the speech that you like that needs protection.. it's the speech that you don't like that does.
@DemocracyNow You've got to do better. Journalism is about Informing and Educating the public, not framing things in a particular way as to be divisive or one-sided. Censorship is Not the way forward, nor are click-bait Headlines... Make JOURNALISM Great Again
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These things happen, because a lot of folks are in agreement with it all. Let us not pretend otherwise.
shame by FB. This move will only have more hate . Once the block feature is there I am good.
Other people get cancelled too - like Lee Camp, Chris Hedges, Glenn Greenwald, and many others who are not under suspicion to be MAGA. A lot of the fact checking was overdone, especially during the pandemic. And what is considered hate speech or not is also pretty biased. Always depends on who does it, and whom it addresses.
...and Matt Taibbi....Dem Now interviewed Marianne Williamson, Jill Stein, and Cornell West during their candidacies, but they worked with the corrupt DNC to censor RFK jr. How'd that work out for ya, AMY? What hypocrites there are on this infotainment show, speaking about authoritarianism happening as a result of free speech. What a pathetic joke.
lol guess what RUclips is next
Half my comments get censored on utub😮
In favor of right wing posts
RUclips is already full of misinformation and bots. RUclips allows major channels to spread disinformation about Ukraine and does nothing against hateful messages/disinformation. But if you say something bad about America or spread misinformation, RUclips will take action.
You don’t need RUclips either. All those channels you like have websites…
@JsuisJreste just like aol , Myspace ,
facecrook they come they go!!
I like independent news/channels
Free speech includes emotional speech - happy or hate [temper tantrum].
Fine but it should be followed by a tag by a fact checker saying it was a emotional statement that's not based on facts .
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Why you can't determine truth on your own ?
Freedom to post hate speech, lies, and reality denial is not good, as the US demonstrates.
We live in dangerous times and world 🌎
Truly the most hair raising discussion I have ever heard in the past 20 years. Billionaires controlling the mindless slaves to the internet. To paraphrase Alice Cooper, "We're all drones, all for one and one for all."
I have friends I only contact on Facebook. I will be leaving as I refuse to ever use Twitter/x. Facebook is a little more embedded in my life but I will leave.
You will feel free if you get off. If they can't make the small effort to reach out to you they were never your friends in the first place, or are lazy POS and you should find people who aren't like that. You only need 6 or so really good friends anyway.
What is wrong with a phone call or group emails :-) ?
Same :( It sucks if you only have FB
@sleepnomore6065 that does sucks
People are so quick to boycott anything that goes against what they’re told is bad. When did Facebook become such a trusted news source anyway? People need to get their news elsewhere or just read a book for once, theres a whole world outside of these apps. Facebook is great for keeping up with old friends, distant relatives and finding local events.
Being a modern democrat is about a lot of things, but it isn’t about democracy. You deserved to lose as much as you deserve your new president.
The question is, will people leave because they won’t tolerate no facts or just repeat the same crap Zuckerberg is allowing to be on Trump’s good side who’ll screw him anyway.
Less Censorship is ALWAYS a good thing. It doesnt matter what the motives are. Facebook was horrible before and will be in the future. Down with ALL arbiters of "Truth"!
Hate speech and lies need to be deleted.
So, hopefully the difference will start with the US. With the change to Meta, many of us were upset because as a woman and a person of color, I am one of those who has been attacked and has had my page, that I have had since 2013, attempted to be taken down.
I see this Change as a gift.
It allows those of us who have been doing the fat checking, for years, but we’re being reported and almost shut down, some of my friends pages have been shut down, and their pages have been taken over by hateful people.
This change with meta-allows those of us who have become more cordial, polite, sarcastic, with our fact, checking and are fighting on the front lines, oh how I hate to say that as a USAF vet, of the Internet to shut down these lies and combat it with truth.
It took some time, but now instead of me blocking the Maga and the hateful and the trolls, they now block me.
Lifting this free for all on all of these sites, does not make me want to run to a new site, it invigorates me and the others that I’m encouraging to stay put and fight.
If we continue to not fact, check people who are spreading lies, we lose.
And yes, I am extra energized. Now that I have family who have lost homes in the recent LA county fires. The lies that continued to be spread while people are losing their lives and their livelihood is disgusting. And I will continue to battle those lies.
I think everyone else should put on their big boy or big girl britches, and learn the art of nice nasty: It’s a lot of truth, with a lot of politeness, and a little sarcasm.
What a coincidence! I just ended my Facebook account.
"He needed the Trump administration to show the villain he is".
Who? Zuckerberg? Musk? Who else? Guess!
Who's out here using Facebook?!
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Fakebook being Fake again
Yes! Censorship has to be removed! The double standard handled here is remarkable! And you guys pretend not to see it...
F*ckbook is not removing Censorship. They are removing facts just like they removed ALL NEWS. They are increasing their Censorship of truth.
So why did Elon Musk silence members of the Maga movement who only criticised the H1B1 visas yet he never censored them same ones for their NAAAAZEEEE views? Could it be that free speech is only allowed if it is deemed acceptable by establishment and not contrary to their objectives?
Censorship of hate speech, lies, reality denial, racism, fascism is a public good. Fascists hate fact checking, as this comment section demonstrates clearly.