I never liked Shannons character on the show, and later on when Holly's character took over lots of her characteristics I dissliked her as well. But it's no secret that people have had issues working with Shannon, she's been let go from Beverly hills because nobody wanted to work with her. I am not a fan of alissa the last few years she's been a hypocrit like no other but I understand not wanting to work with divas and for some reason all four of them think they are more than just some actors playing pretend..
No, YOU and your friends “knew.” Cuz you and your friends were there, right? So y’all know something more than the rest of the public. Despite Shannon having the difficult reputation and all before even getting casted on the show right? and despite Shannon refusing to attend mediation when Alyssa made the attempt and publicly apologized for whatever part she played in their beef all those yrs ago, right? It’s all Alyssa, right? Milano can’t help if she triggers you by merely existing.
@amberspillum9864 She ain’t arguing w anybody considering how she hasn’t been going back and forth w anyone nor has she said a name. I can tell you’re a tr0ll w the jokes you’re making
You haven't actually read what Alyssa has said, have you? Holly, Shannen, and Rose aren't looking great and every time they open their mouths about this situation they say something that makes them look worse to me. Alyssa is the only one who has had guest stars and behind the scenes people come out in her defense
Weird is 1. Doherty had problems on set in previous Sets already,she was fameous for problematic to work with 2.Combs stayed for 5 seasons after Milano allegedly got her best friend fired? 3.McGowan is constantly lying when she opens her mouth, and weirdly enough she talks about narcissistic people when she is the real Narcissist I do not really like Milano but seriously who would you Fire the more famous one Doherty? Or the almost no name Milano? That's evidence enough Also Worth mentioning after charmed Milano was more famous than combs and McGowan and is still more famous than both combined I guess jealousy?
@@KrisKk08 guest stars, a producer for three seasons, and others who worked behind the scenes have come out in support of Alyssa. I believe they were all awful, but I think Alyssa was the least awful, simply because Alyssa is the only one who is not being awful now
Rose seems more and more mentally unstable. Shannon has a big history of being difficult, and Hollie was I think quite normal for a while but now looks a lot older than she should. Seems like they are not happy Alyssa seems healthy and happy. Very sad, was one of my fav shows 😢
I was not there. Just a young single working 2-3 jobs and enjoying the show as a great escape. From across the country. I'll just keep my fond memories.
Shannen was awesome in this show and even though Rose is a wonderful actress, they should have kept Shannen on as it was the storylines that weren't as good after Shannen's exit.
There are always three sides to every story. Shannen's side, Alyssa's side, and what REALLY happened. I'll choose to remember how great the show was and I'll always love it. It's a shame that it all spilled out like this and that it couldn't have been handled years ago and squashed.
There's also Rose's side and it matches perfectly with Shannon's. Remember they didn't know each other and ended up having the same experience with Alyssa.
Tell me you got someone fired without telling me. 😂 Milano made it blatantly obvious with her word salad “admissions” that she purposefully went after Shannen out of shear jealously and wanted to be the lead. And honestly, it’s so evident that she wanted to be the star of Charmed. She not only got first billing after Shannen left but also every single episode revolved around Phoebe’s love life, her wardrobe, and themed episodes: being a mermaid, queen of the underworld, genie, etc. I sense she used Shannon’s reputation of being difficult to work with to her advantage and I’m sure her mother encouraged. She knew she could make it believable seeing how Shannen once worked for Spelling and had been fired before. Her little remark she made about her lawyer being the same she had then really drives it home - sure you may not have had the power to get anyone fired but your lawyer sure did! It’s honestly a sleazy jerk decision from her after all these years. Shannen is dying and just wanted to clear her name. It isn’t as if Shannen decided to, out of the blue, 25 years later, stir up some drama - she just wants to clear her reputation before she dies. Milano could have easily been the bigger person and just came clean and admitted it. But no, a narcissist would never admit they’re wrong!
what a great comment. You said exactly what I have always felt. After Shannen left it was like the Alyssa Milano show, everything about her and it was so annoying. I hated it and after the Cole story line ended, I stopped watching.
It’s blatantly obvious she went after Shannen out of jealousy? It’s evident she wanted to be the star of Charmed? Based on what?! Not only did Charmed not have a star, but if it did, it certainly wouldn’t be Alyssa. The same way first billing didn’t make Shannen the star, it didn’t make Alyssa the star. I don’t know what standards you use, but for me, the star of show is determined by more than just how soon they appear in the credits or the number of episodes revolve around them. Especially when those episodes involved either trying to find/keep a man, or turning into something so you can show as much skin in a silly costume. It’s obvious you're just making assumptions and giving Shannen pity due to her health, but that doesn’t mean she’s telling the truth. You’re saying all she wants to do is clear her name, but literally nothing has stopped her from doing that. She’s the one who chose to spend the past 20+ years lying about being fired. Regardless of her reputation, how could Alyssa make people see things that supposedly never happened? Did she go around spreading rumors? Did she show up on set claiming Shannen attacked her? At the end of the day, you don’t what happened and the people involved to this day refuse to tell the full story. Yet you’re so sure you know all of the facts to the point where you’re saying Alyssa just needs to come out and admit it, as if it’s been proven she did anything wrong.
That's one of the problems with narcissists; they think they're important to the point of actually their own hype. Then they get aggressive and attack anyone whom they deem a threat or dares challenge them
I’m an OG fan watching since the premiere of this show, and 20 years ago and up until now I’m so sad still about this story. So sad that all four of them are fighting (or 1 vs 3), and can’t make up and all just get along. This past megacon would’ve been a chance for the first time that all four could have been united
@@camsmyth101 Shannen didn't need anyone to come along and ruin her reputation. She had ruined it herself. She had a reputation of being rude, cruel, and unprofessional on sets long before she did Charmed. Aaron Spelling probably liked her for whatever reason and decided to give her another chance and it just didn't turn out well. Make sure you're not listening to just the people who were in front of the camera
Well I guess this is the final nail in the coffin of my hopes for an Original cast members reboot. It's sad to think that with such a successful show they had so many issue behind the scenes.
They’ve wanted a reboot but they have no control over that since the company that does seemingly doesn’t want it They had that chance when the awful “reboot” happened
I respect Shannen for wanting to keep quiet and feel bad for her. Sadly in our society today the public easily is fooled and gaslit by fake narratives and images. Keeping quiet only let Alyssa the jealous competitive insecure one to fill media and general population with lies. Today ppl refuse to admit they are easy to fool therefore many will continue to believe the lies about Shannen. GO Holly, Shannen and Rose not protecting the toxic liar 👏
@@renealexander2703 We don’t, lol. These people are talking as though they were there on set. They’re just picking sides and I don’t doubt that Shannon being sick unfortunately is victimizing her in other peoples eyes. There could b more than one truth at play here, we don’t knw.
To be honest...I think none of the charmed ones are speaking the whole truth and are leaving out some details. Who really started it? What exactly has been said? I think it's so long ago now they don't even remember all of it. Where is this mediator with all the rapports?! Still hoping for a reunion show/event with all the girls someday, including the actors that played Billy and Christy.
Alyssa got away with her problematic behaviour for years because she always came across as a very sweet person during interviews. Then social media came along and Alyssa' exposed her true colours
@@izziewithay I wouldn’t know since I’m not one. She, like all of them, was good on the show but I don’t have a particular affinity for her in general. I just don’t believe for a second Shannen was innocent in all this, no matter how she or her weird fans try to spin it.
I know Shannon is a good person Alyssa on the other hand was just jealous of Shannon because she got the lead role in charmed she wanted to be bigger & better which I know Shannon got paid more versus Alyssa's salary she just wanted her out of the picture so she could step in as lead actress because I heard the writers & producer's increased Holly & Alyssa's salary 60 Grand per episode because they was afraid they would leave as Shannon did😂
Its funny as a young girl, i never cared for "Prue" or Shannon but once Rose came on, it seemed like Alyssa was getting sexier roles, and the script revolved more around her and I think she was dating Beltazar or something but i felt like the producers must've liked her or were sleeping with her or something for this type of change... I watched it but the original 3 were the main reason I got hooked in the first place
The dig at the end about 5 more seasons says everything you need to know about Alyssa and who is telling the truth. I think Shannon got a bad rep because of this and 90210
3 out of the 4 stars get along. I think it’s the 4th one that’s the problem. Especially when she desperately continues to try to remain relevant by keeping her name in the news. So sad. Move on Phoebe.
@@Botali694 I feel sorry that you are an Alyssa apologist - the ego maniac who got someone fired because she was jealous. 🙄 I feel sorry you can take a kind supportive comment & say something so twisted. Are you always this miserable?
It's funny because Holly once had a silent falling out with Shannen too and i thought her and Alyssa were becoming close and now she's against her again. Fair-weather she seems to be.
I hate how public perception keeps switching every few years and people just forget everything before and choose a side. It's clear all four of them are difficult to work with in some manner. A few years ago Holly had a feud with Shannen and liked Alyssa. All four of them created toxic workplace environment. Some did it more than others.
RIGHT? everyone used to support Milano because Doherty was a “B*tch” and guess what she probably was. Now it’s flipped all of a sudden. I remember watching either a charmed reunion or a comicon panel on yt a few years ago and Shannon was being classy about the drama, but Holly just dragged Alyssa so bad it made me lose a lot of respect for her. We’ll never know the full story so I’ll just come to the conclusion that they all suck.
The producers made a grave mistake for siding with the bratt Milano instead of firing her. The show felt vacant after Shannon left. I stopped watching a season after. Shannon was beloved by the fans and would have kept the show going
Always knew Alyssa was responsible for Shannen being fired, she had the most to gain, and she got it, Alyssa became the lead after Shannen left. Alyssa has controlled the narrative for over two decades now, now she’s being exposed for the narcissist she is, how is it Shannen, Holly and Rose have all had issues with Alyssa? It’s obvious that Alyssa was the problem and not Shannen
Yet weirdly I never saw Alyssa as the lead after Shannen left. For a lot of people, I think Holly was absolutely the lead in terms of Piper now being the oldest sister, the mother, the most powerful. She took Prue's place. Phoebe was always a supporting character in my eyes and actually more of a comedic character and generally an awful human being compared to Paige and Piper.
So glad that Shannen, Holly, and Rose are all supporting each other and finally going public with the truth. It's quite clear that Alyssa forced Shannen out - and it's ridiculous that she continues to deflect and deny the facts. I wish they'd do a Charmed reunion TV movie - with Shannen resurrected and working with sisters Holly and Rose to search for the kidnapped Alyssa (Phoebe) so that Alyssa would be missing in most of the story!
Come on, Holly, really? Alyssa did not say you are liars, she just said her side of the truth. She has the right to do so, just as you and Shannen have. Alyssa was maybe the most successful actress among them back then, but I don't think she had the power to let anyone go. She was not as huge as Jennifer Aniston or Julia Roberts.
As a fan, there was a sudden change on the show after Prue died. It wasnt the same. Whenever i do my rewartch , it was just those 1-3 seasons. The only good thing after Prue dies was the introduction of Paige
How was Alyssa Milano behavior on Who's The Boss and between movie productions like Commando,etc? Did she feel since she had been acting the longest she should have the last say over which character gets more screen time (creative differences) ,who stays and who goes? Shannon Doherty was not to long gone from her short stint on 90210,so for us, she was one of the main reasons we watched. I never knew of Holly Marie Combs until she was on Charmed. I remember watching the first season of Charmed because we was heavy into Buffy:The Vampire Slayer,Xena:Warrior Princess,The X-Files and I think Melrose Place.
Shannen didn’t want people to know the history of this ongoing feud yet she’s been talking about it for over a decade in small doses. I wish each of the ladies would share their own experiences candidly, as clearly it looks like Alyssa was/is the problem. People like this need be exposed and CANCELLED!
Alyssa is the common denominator in these stories. She should just admit that she was a brat and deeply regrets her actions, the fact that she hasn’t done this.
You're only getting the story from people in front of the camera. Many guest stars and, more importantly, the regular 9 - 5 "behind the scenes" people have come out in support of Alyssa, saying she was the only one who treated the crew like humans. Let me know when one of them comes out in support of Shannen
Not only has Alyssa taken responsibility for her portion, she also tried to have a third party mediator help them on set. Shannen and Holly refused to speak with the mediator. If The WB chose to stand by Alyssa after she threatened to sue, it’s b/c they knew she had grounds to do so. To me, Shannen was ultimately in the wrong.
What we didn’t know was that Shannon had the opportunity after season 1 to axe her but she chose not to. Alyssa got to make the same decision in season 3! This speaks well to someone’s character.
Now we know how much of a liar Alyssa is cause she's outnumbered; "power of 3" 😅. Let us not forget what she did to attack one of our male Supreme Court justices, bringing in a fake victim. Also let's look at who she's married to. I hope it was worth it cause she's one of the most hated.
Sad, they are all beautiful stars. Notice how Alyssa is in the middle now? My girls and I loved watching the show, always hoped for them to comeback. Never watched the new Charmed not sure if it still exist. Would love the old cast to come together and make a tv movie.
Lot of y’all are talking as though y’all were there on set. Y’all are just picking sides and I don’t doubt that y’all are doing this bc Shannon being sick automatically makes people more prone to victimize her in other peoples eyes and I don’t even think she’d enjoy that. There could b more than one truth at play here. Alyssa apologized twice in the past for whatever part she played during their shenanigans and once during the show attempted to attend mediation which Shannon refused to do. Holly and Shannon knew each other PRIOR to filming Charmed and were close before then and close on set which gives off the impression that they both ostracized Alyssa during her and Shannon’s issues. Alyssa once described it as “high school” on set which Holly deflected during a Breakfast Club interview by saying that Alyssa “never even went to high school,” so Alyssa’s truth and perspective could very well b valid just as Shannon’s is. There may not be a sole villain here and many of y’all demonizing Alyssa disingenuously are conveniently disregarding Shannon’s reputation she had even prior to Charmed as far as being difficult to work with. Could that have been bs when she was just strong minded and passionate? Sure. But it was her reputation nonetheless. They both likely made immature choices during different periods on set. Holly hearing from 1 producer that Alyssa gave an ultimatum and providing no additional information doesn’t explain what the work environment was like up until that point that Alyssa allegedly said that. Multiple things could b true and I ain’t jumping at the chance to demonize one woman just bc the other is sick. The both of them are iconic actresses who made an iconic show and it’s unfortunate that they still have yet to talk about this shxt in person. 🤦🏾♀️
Please do Charmed movie with Prue Piper and Paige without Phoebe,and show us that actually Phoebe died and not Prue at the end of the 3th season,that would be amazing!❤ As in other time line please do that🙏🏻
Naturally, I believe the ones who aged naturally. Not the one single one who seems utterly terrified of it. A bit unrelated, but a telling/signaling thing for where someone’s honesty and true virtue is sometimes. Especially when it’s 3 out of 4 people with the same story…
Whatever it is that happened, it's more than 20 years ago, they should let it rest. Even if Alyssa had complained about Shannen, it was ultimately the producers' choice to axe Shannon. Knowing her history of being booted off a show before, this shouldn't really be a big shock. Alyssa is the smarter one in not trying to bring a 20+ year old feud to life again. I too have heard enough about all of this. Also, Rose is the last one that should get involved in this feud, she's the one who replaced Shannen and in fact should be thankful for that, cause it really was the gig that boosted her career and made her the celeb she is today.
It’s such a shame, my fantasy has been shattered. I always thought Shannon left to pursue other things, I didn’t realise she was pushed out. Melissa Milano has been showing her true colours over the last few years, it all makes sense now.
Anybody else disgusted with Alyssa and how she played a victim for MANY years when she was the issue and now all the other actresses have spoken out about her? She did not deserve her success for being such a sh!tty person, to also never make it right through all of Shannons health battles?! Ive lost ALL respect and support for Alyssa, she shouldnt have the life and success she doess with it all being built on a lie and her ruining someone elses career. Shame on her. Truly disgusted with her shadyness
I loved Charmed series bcoz of the three sisters. Piper was a sweetheart, Prue was the best❤ and Phoebe also. I never thought Alyssa had done such thing. They shouldnt haave feud among themselves. It was such a hit show❤
Thank you! The only sensible comment here! I was just saying that I remember Alyssa describing the set as “high school” and Holly deflecting during an interview with Shannon by saying “she didn’t even go to high school!” Holly KNEW Shannon prior to Charmed and they were close then and during the show which to me leaves the impression that they very well mightve ostracized Alyssa and still seem to b doing so especially with Rose present since she’s got a political beef w her. I remember Alyssa apologizing TWICE for whatever part she played, attempting to attend mediation and Shannon refusing to b apart of it. Now Holly’s coming with this additional information decades that of what 1 producer told her about Alyssa having offered an ultimatum, and people are automatically believing it and or demonizing her for it as if she couldn’t have made that offer bc the work environment was toxic for her. WE DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WE WERENT THERE! Women love to b b*tches and pick sides to demonize one in favor of the other and I don’t doubt that Shannon being unfortunately sick is victimizing her in other peoples eyes. She had a reputation before Charmed and they BOTH likely were immature with strong personalities during different periods on set!
@@jackkolero there has been several guest stars and some crew members that have come out saying that the girls fought each other all of the time. In this instance, they’re all being terrible to Alyssa but back during filming they all were equally involved.
Exactly, just look at the first season interviews and you can see that it was just like high school. Alyssa seemed so left out there and you can clearly see that Shannon and Holly were so close. I think they all had something to do with it, but to blame it all on Alyssa is not right.
I personally think Alyssa was the one who was experiencing bullying/mobing, and who eventually had no other choice but to complain to the management about Shannon in order to protect herself. Anyone would do the same. I would. Holly's word doesn't necessarily mean anything: she wouldn't be the first one who was on bully's side, gaslighting bulling victims even more. And she probably felt like she owed Doherty for that job. Just because both S and Rose don't like Alyssa, doesn't necessarily prove anything either. In schools too, often more than one bully hates one kid, but most often, it tells the least about the kid being bullied. Producer and technical personel have all said that Alyssa was the one who behaved totally okay.
Then why did Alyssa issue this public apology a few years back if she was the one being bullied? "I could take responsibility for ALOT of our tension we had. I think ALOT of our struggle came from feeling that I was in competition rather than it being that sisterhood the show was so much about." I mean, going to the mediator isn't proof that Alyssa wasn't the problem. And we have no idea Shannen's reasons for not going.
@@heathergraham2581 you are right. We can't know for sure, no one was social anthropologist doing ethnography on the spot. That's why I personally stress the importance of other people who got in the role of witness, plus the other testimonies about Shannon difficulty. Being competitive per se isn't bad, and it can be done in a fair way. Here, however, it could be that Alyssa's competitiveness got sharper and aggressive, but only after Shannon started bullying her. Alyssa probably didn't like and was rude to her too, but the bully, Shannon, was the one who started that interpersonal dynamics, bullys usually do that. Mediation and all, it seems quite fair to the other side who doesn't like you and doesn't have your best interests at heart. It shows how deeply she cared about the series and wanted it to survive despite the problems between ensemble members. Anything other than that wasn't Alyssa's problem.
Alyssa was not bullied,Shannen was great on that set. Brian Krause (Leo) said it is a myth that she was difficult and called her the “hardest working person on that set”
@@starsaligned2215 sometimes even the hardest working people have their target whom they bully. One doesn't necessarily exclude the other. There are people who say the same for Alyssa, so.. like I said, we can't say for sure. But, don't you all find a bit suspicious how Shannon portrays her self as a total victim, Alyssa at leas took her part of responsibility? It's a bit strange.
To be fair, though. As someone who watched the show back then, but who had also followed Shannen on 90210. Those with intelligence, we already knew that Shannen was an easier villain to paint.
I am sorry Shanen has died. She was such a charming person and it was so easy to enjoy her acting. You really felt she was the big sister. It's a shame there was conflict in the set.
I thought Alyssa apologized for this already? Management lies also. I only liked the first 3 seasons b/c the writing got silly snd lazy after that. Seems like more truth needs to be revealed to be healed!
Same I used to watch the reruns on tnt before going to middle school. The first 3 seasons had a darker tone, around season 5 it had a more goofy tone n it got so bad that I stopped watching.
We can argue Alyssa muscled out Shannen and took over the show fair & square, since she won the audience from Shannen. Alyssa literally stole the show. Is it really so tragic that Shannen couldn’t beat her at her own game? No one can blame Shannen for being sore, especially since the show was never better than the first season. The Phoebe show just got silly with age but Holly saved the show’s soul.
It's so obvious to me that Alyssa is trying to save face. All she would have to do is except responsibility for her part and let the healing begin. Refusing to say yes i take responsibility for my part in her firing and yes i could have stopped it. She chose not too. Simple.
@@renealexander2703exactly. People like this don’t want to take facts into consideration if it means they won’t have to demonize a woman and or choose sides about a situation they weren’t there for. Shannon didn’t want to take part in mediation at the time while Alyssa apologized for her part. The ones demonizing her are conveniently omitting that
Trying to save face bc she isn’t confirming your suspicions when it could very possibly be not the whole truth? Trying to save face bc she refuses to entertain you and those accusing her of rehashing what occurred publicly? Please. She literally ACCEPTED responsibility yearssss ago by apologizing and attempting to attend mediation which Shannon didn’t wanna do. They both possibly made mistakes during different periods on set while you and others who weren’t there whatsoever are trying to demonize Alyssa. Why? Bc it’s easier to victimize Shannon considering her health issues.
Are any of us truly shocked? I'm glad that Shannen and Holly can fight those past demons, and leave it where it needs to be. I loved the show.. and, yes, it was obvious to so many of us that the show/storyline seemed to revolve around Phoebe once Pru died. I continued to watch, missing Pru, loving Piper, and hopeful for Paige. It will remain one of my past favorite shows. Shannen... peace and comfort at this time. Holly... such a beautiful lady, thankful and grateful for her honesty. Can't be easy to do in Hollywood.
Now that you said that, I see it. The show really did revolve around Phoebe after Prue died. It’s really upsetting Prue’s character never really received the proper closure she deserved.
J'adore Shannen ❤. La série n'offrait plus d'intérêt après son départ et j'ai cessé de la regarder. Je pense sincèrement que les producteurs auraient dû choisir Shannen ! Je n'apprécie pas Alyssa Milano et pour moi Shannen a un charisme inégalé. Qu'elle guérisse vite et nous revienne car elle nous manque....
People who pick sides in a feud they haven't witnessed: Think about someone you are on bad terms with. Someone who said or did something that was wrong and it hurt you in some way. Imagine, you tell the story to your friends. They're obviously on your side and you all agree that that person is such a fraud. Now imagine this: That person has the same opinion about you and they are certain that they are in the right and you are in the wrong. They tell the story to their friends and they agree with them. The crazy thing is: both of your stories are true... from your own perspectives. Let's be realistic: The fact that Shannen was fired is not the cause here, it is a consequence. A culmination of the events that happened behind the scenes during the previous 3 years. The producers surely knew about these events. It really doesn't matter who gave what ultimatum. At the end of the day, it was the producers' decision, not anyone else's. You can pick sides, of course, but realise that you didn't pick that side based on facts. It's only because you dislike the other one for whatever opinionated reason.
Holly does make sense because she was always the one in the middle and trying to do the best with all of them. I agree with Holly. Alyssa could have changed the outcome years ago but now they all need to take accountability and responsibility about the past and now future and just be done with this back and forth.
@@renealexander2703 She was always upset about this but things aren't how they are now. The media and tell your truth wasn't as big as it is now for celebs 🤷♀️ just a theory
@@renealexander2703 its probably like when I was best friends with two girls who didn't like each other. I didn't want a problem with either of them. I had different friendships with these girls but I worked with one and lived with another so 🤷♀️🤷♀️
As I said Holly is the main villain. She kept silent for all those years. And now when she is irrelevant. Now she is hashing it all out. Holly not so innocent
Sooo, a mediator suggested to keep the show going, Shannon needed to go, most of the episodes would revolve around Phoebe (and her love life) and Phoebe's wardrobe would change to skimpy?
Basically Alyssa felt she was in a toxic work environment and Shannen I think overpowered a lot behind the scenes ....and Doherty I think wanted a lot more creative control too ...as well as being in the centre of posters and branding etc for those first two seasons that Milano really felt like she was getting sidelined and also that it wasn't a collaboration so much as them against us mentality....she filed a complaint but spelling entertainment and paramount utilised this to instead of make a more suitable work condition for the actresses or level playing field to use it as a chance to be rid of Doherty .... The media twisted it that Alyssa got rid of Shannen which holly then believed I think and thus it wasn't the best situation for them all inspite of McGowan being brought in hence why Milano and combs became producers on the show to ensure neither of them were offed as such ....but now it's transformed into something else
Sounds to me that the fued between Alyssa and Shannen got so bad that Alyssa threatened to sue (over the hostile work environment) and leave the show telling them that it was her or me. And the producers decided to go with Alyssa over Shannen. The whole "Alyssa had the power to say no"-thing doesn't make sense in that situation because if Alyssa wanted Shannen to stay she would've obviously been the one to step away from the show. Either way one of the sisters had to go because Alyssa couldn't work with Shannen.
Shame really because Alyssa basically shot herself in the foot. Once Shannon left, it basically went down hill from there! Charmed was never the same again.
Shannen was the only reason I cared for this show ‘charmed’. I’m saddened it was anything but a charmed experience for them.
That I agree with. Shannen and the rest of their chemistry together tho personally
And yet i bet you watched till it ended which makes what you said null and void
I never liked Shannons character on the show, and later on when Holly's character took over lots of her characteristics I dissliked her as well. But it's no secret that people have had issues working with Shannon, she's been let go from Beverly hills because nobody wanted to work with her. I am not a fan of alissa the last few years she's been a hypocrit like no other but I understand not wanting to work with divas and for some reason all four of them think they are more than just some actors playing pretend..
Right! coming off 90210 I was following Shannon but I really learned to love Milano .
We all knew Milano had something to do with Shannon exit. It’s not news
No, YOU and your friends “knew.” Cuz you and your friends were there, right? So y’all know something more than the rest of the public. Despite Shannon having the difficult reputation and all before even getting casted on the show right? and despite Shannon refusing to attend mediation when Alyssa made the attempt and publicly apologized for whatever part she played in their beef all those yrs ago, right? It’s all Alyssa, right? Milano can’t help if she triggers you by merely existing.
@amberspillum9864
She ain’t arguing w anybody considering how she hasn’t been going back and forth w anyone nor has she said a name. I can tell you’re a tr0ll w the jokes you’re making
@amberspillum9864 Shannen talked about her and she responded. How is that fighting?
Exactly
@amberspillum9864 So are you going to answer my question or just keep repeating yourself?
The show was very good. All of them portrayed being sisters really well. That’s some great acting to hide all the backstabbing going on the set.
Tbh, I don’t think Shannon is that good of an actor. Couple good examples but not great.
Seriously. It's almost like the Phoebe turns evil arc was based on something real. 😂
@@Beegeezy144 🤔
Shannen is a very strong actress in my view.
@@AvecPoesie Shannon is almost a mediocre actor. A big snob for sure.
You go Holly, Shannon and Rose!!!! The true power of three! CALL HER OUT!
You haven't actually read what Alyssa has said, have you? Holly, Shannen, and Rose aren't looking great and every time they open their mouths about this situation they say something that makes them look worse to me. Alyssa is the only one who has had guest stars and behind the scenes people come out in her defense
Weird is
1. Doherty had problems on set in previous Sets already,she was fameous for problematic to work with
2.Combs stayed for 5 seasons after Milano allegedly got her best friend fired?
3.McGowan is constantly lying when she opens her mouth, and weirdly enough she talks about narcissistic people when she is the real Narcissist
I do not really like Milano but seriously who would you Fire the more famous one Doherty? Or the almost no name Milano?
That's evidence enough
Also Worth mentioning after charmed Milano was more famous than combs and McGowan and is still more famous than both combined I guess jealousy?
And is what Alyssa was counting on.
People would blame Shannen automatically due to her past.
@@KrisKk08 guest stars, a producer for three seasons, and others who worked behind the scenes have come out in support of Alyssa. I believe they were all awful, but I think Alyssa was the least awful, simply because Alyssa is the only one who is not being awful now
Rose seems more and more mentally unstable. Shannon has a big history of being difficult, and Hollie was I think quite normal for a while but now looks a lot older than she should.
Seems like they are not happy Alyssa seems healthy and happy. Very sad, was one of my fav shows 😢
Wish Shannen would have stayed instead of Alyssa. The show lost its soul from season 4 and onwards.
I feel the same. 😖😖😖
I disagree....the show got better but Shannen was definitely missed.
Not even. Alyssa any day. Alyssa made that show way better.
if shannen stay on the show, it might not be continued till season 8. probaly cancel after a few season
The show might have lasted a few more seasons, but the storyline and plot became worse.
The power of three will set us free😭
Nah, Jesus will set us free❤
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@kingdomlwandle1148who's that?
@@SomberTwilight_ He's the son of God
Rose, Shannen and Holly. The power of three shall set us free!
I was not there. Just a young single working 2-3 jobs and enjoying the show as a great escape. From across the country. I'll just keep my fond memories.
Right. Same. They all have their sides. I won’t let their real life experience ruin the show for me. It’s always been a comfort show.
@@SupernaturalLove100whats comforting about witchcraft, witches and warlocks?
@@Katarina23It’s fantasy, like Smallville, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, not to be taken literally. If it’s not your cup of tea, oh well.
Alyssa is a bully clearly.
Shannen was awesome in this show and even though Rose is a wonderful actress, they should have kept Shannen on as it was the storylines that weren't as good after Shannen's exit.
Alyssa should have left and we would have rose, shannen & holly
My entire love and support for the Charmed ones Shannen, Holly and Rose. Period
There are always three sides to every story. Shannen's side, Alyssa's side, and what REALLY happened. I'll choose to remember how great the show was and I'll always love it. It's a shame that it all spilled out like this and that it couldn't have been handled years ago and squashed.
fence sitting nonsense, grow a spin and stop the homosexual absolute dribble
There's also Rose's side and it matches perfectly with Shannon's. Remember they didn't know each other and ended up having the same experience with Alyssa.
Tell me you got someone fired without telling me. 😂 Milano made it blatantly obvious with her word salad “admissions” that she purposefully went after Shannen out of shear jealously and wanted to be the lead. And honestly, it’s so evident that she wanted to be the star of Charmed. She not only got first billing after Shannen left but also every single episode revolved around Phoebe’s love life, her wardrobe, and themed episodes: being a mermaid, queen of the underworld, genie, etc. I sense she used Shannon’s reputation of being difficult to work with to her advantage and I’m sure her mother encouraged. She knew she could make it believable seeing how Shannen once worked for Spelling and had been fired before. Her little remark she made about her lawyer being the same she had then really drives it home - sure you may not have had the power to get anyone fired but your lawyer sure did!
It’s honestly a sleazy jerk decision from her after all these years. Shannen is dying and just wanted to clear her name. It isn’t as if Shannen decided to, out of the blue, 25 years later, stir up some drama - she just wants to clear her reputation before she dies. Milano could have easily been the bigger person and just came clean and admitted it. But no, a narcissist would never admit they’re wrong!
what a great comment. You said exactly what I have always felt. After Shannen left it was like the Alyssa Milano show, everything about her and it was so annoying. I hated it and after the Cole story line ended, I stopped watching.
@@lm3049same…
I mean I didn’t stop cuz I guess I loved the show through a different perspective but same…
It’s blatantly obvious she went after Shannen out of jealousy? It’s evident she wanted to be the star of Charmed? Based on what?! Not only did Charmed not have a star, but if it did, it certainly wouldn’t be Alyssa. The same way first billing didn’t make Shannen the star, it didn’t make Alyssa the star. I don’t know what standards you use, but for me, the star of show is determined by more than just how soon they appear in the credits or the number of episodes revolve around them. Especially when those episodes involved either trying to find/keep a man, or turning into something so you can show as much skin in a silly costume.
It’s obvious you're just making assumptions and giving Shannen pity due to her health, but that doesn’t mean she’s telling the truth. You’re saying all she wants to do is clear her name, but literally nothing has stopped her from doing that. She’s the one who chose to spend the past 20+ years lying about being fired. Regardless of her reputation, how could Alyssa make people see things that supposedly never happened? Did she go around spreading rumors? Did she show up on set claiming Shannen attacked her?
At the end of the day, you don’t what happened and the people involved to this day refuse to tell the full story. Yet you’re so sure you know all of the facts to the point where you’re saying Alyssa just needs to come out and admit it, as if it’s been proven she did anything wrong.
That's one of the problems with narcissists; they think they're important to the point of actually their own hype. Then they get aggressive and attack anyone whom they deem a threat or dares challenge them
Since they’re fighting does that mean they don’t have their powers anymore? 😂
😂
If you know, you know 😂
The Book of Shadows front cover will have changed now.
Well they have because Prue, Piper and Paige are now the Power of three😂❤
Great line
10000000% believe Shannon Doherty,
Holly Marie Combs, and Rose McGowan. Alysa Milano seems like a mean person who tries to come across as nice
I’m an OG fan watching since the premiere of this show, and 20 years ago and up until now I’m so sad still about this story. So sad that all four of them are fighting (or 1 vs 3), and can’t make up and all just get along. This past megacon would’ve been a chance for the first time that all four could have been united
I get what your saying but if true it ruined someones reputation and work life so its not as easy to forgive just because it makes it easier on fans.
@@camsmyth101 Shannen didn't need anyone to come along and ruin her reputation. She had ruined it herself. She had a reputation of being rude, cruel, and unprofessional on sets long before she did Charmed. Aaron Spelling probably liked her for whatever reason and decided to give her another chance and it just didn't turn out well. Make sure you're not listening to just the people who were in front of the camera
@@spatchmo6938Exactly.👏👏 Glad I’m not the only one who remembers her history.
Disliking Milano more everyday. This and asking people to donate to her son’s baseball team and then taking him to the Super Bowl.
Is that why, after Prues' death, the one who seemed crushed by it was Piper, Phoebe seemed to be fine with it
Yep she didn't mourn at ALL. Piper was devastated.
I noticed that too
Ikr
Piper was trying to get over it for weeks ,there was even the episode where she played a bad character who later on cried on prues grave
So as was pretty much figured, Shannon, Hollie and Rose speak out about what happened whereas Alyssa denies all
Except Rose wasn't there for that, she came after
wrong! Rose litttery experienced the same toxicity from alyysa as shannon did!!!!!@@ericdwhitmorec
Well I guess this is the final nail in the coffin of my hopes for an Original cast members reboot. It's sad to think that with such a successful show they had so many issue behind the scenes.
They’ve wanted a reboot but they have no control over that since the company that does seemingly doesn’t want it
They had that chance when the awful “reboot” happened
I quote Rose McGowan on Alyssa Milano: "I Don't Like Her, I Think She's a Lie".
😂 she never minces words
Shannen was always the star in a series and made it great. She made BH90210 and Charmed
I respect Shannen for wanting to keep quiet and feel bad for her. Sadly in our society today the public easily is fooled and gaslit by fake narratives and images. Keeping quiet only let Alyssa the jealous competitive insecure one to fill media and general population with lies. Today ppl refuse to admit they are easy to fool therefore many will continue to believe the lies about Shannen. GO Holly, Shannen and Rose not protecting the toxic liar 👏
But how do we know what's being said about Alyssa is the truth?
Good lord
Alyssa is the ONLY one who apologized for her part. Shannen wouldn’t participate in a mediation. That speaks VOLUMES about her mindset at that time.
@@renealexander2703
We don’t, lol. These people are talking as though they were there on set. They’re just picking sides and I don’t doubt that Shannon being sick unfortunately is victimizing her in other peoples eyes. There could b more than one truth at play here, we don’t knw.
Alyssa is fake!
To be honest...I think none of the charmed ones are speaking the whole truth and are leaving out some details. Who really started it? What exactly has been said? I think it's so long ago now they don't even remember all of it. Where is this mediator with all the rapports?! Still hoping for a reunion show/event with all the girls someday, including the actors that played Billy and Christy.
Exactly.
Yes would be good to get more details
Prue made the whole show anyway
All this drama is really hard to watch. I loved that show. To know all the behind the scenes drama…. I could do without
Shannen was my fav character in the show, I hated when they killed her off
I’ve always loved the show, and I’m a big fan of them all. Regardless. ❤
Me too, loved them all
Just do a reboot with Holly, Rose and Shannon
Tarde
Alyssa got away with her problematic behaviour for years because she always came across as a very sweet person during interviews. Then social media came along and Alyssa' exposed her true colours
Was Alysa also the one who got Shannen fired before the Charmed?
@@DadoPanda Shannen’s weird fans will figure out a way to blame Alyssa for that too.
@@EastSide-qc5oy Just like Alyssa's weird fans
@@DadoPandaAre you choosing to ignore that they are both problematic people?
@@izziewithay I wouldn’t know since I’m not one. She, like all of them, was good on the show but I don’t have a particular affinity for her in general. I just don’t believe for a second Shannen was innocent in all this, no matter how she or her weird fans try to spin it.
I know Shannon is a good person Alyssa on the other hand was just jealous of Shannon because she got the lead role in charmed she wanted to be bigger & better which I know Shannon got paid more versus Alyssa's salary she just wanted her out of the picture so she could step in as lead actress because I heard the writers & producer's increased Holly & Alyssa's salary 60 Grand per episode because they was afraid they would leave as Shannon did😂
Sounds like a case of the industry putting people against each other to Me. It’s sad they can’t figure this out just for their peace of mind
Perfectly said. I agree 💯 %.
Its funny as a young girl, i never cared for "Prue" or Shannon but once Rose came on, it seemed like Alyssa was getting sexier roles, and the script revolved more around her and I think she was dating Beltazar or something but i felt like the producers must've liked her or were sleeping with her or something for this type of change... I watched it but the original 3 were the main reason I got hooked in the first place
I hate that this is going on... I love all 4 of these beautiful ladies ❤
I love all 4 ladies as well.
Don't you mean 5:Kaley Cuoco
Believe it 100 percent
The dig at the end about 5 more seasons says everything you need to know about Alyssa and who is telling the truth. I think Shannon got a bad rep because of this and 90210
Holly! Always loved you, your voice and your eloquence. Thank you for speaking out!
3 out of the 4 stars get along. I think it’s the 4th one that’s the problem. Especially when she desperately continues to try to remain relevant by keeping her name in the news. So sad. Move on Phoebe.
Where are the producers in all this? Why is nobody asking them to weigh in a set the record straight?
They probably had a hand in it.
That pack of cowards? 😢
I stand with Shannen, Holly & Rose ❤ the REAL power of 3
You sound like them ,I feel sorry for the people around you
@@Botali694 I feel sorry that you are an Alyssa apologist - the ego maniac who got someone fired because she was jealous. 🙄 I feel sorry you can take a kind supportive comment & say something so twisted. Are you always this miserable?
@starsaligned2215 how you feel ,remains your feelings and how I feel remains my feelings and I stand by them ( I love Milano ❤️)
I always heard it was Shannen that gave them the ultimate. Disappointed me as Prue was my fave. To this day, have not watched beyond season 3.
It wasn’t her. Listen to her podcast she talks about that.
It's funny because Holly once had a silent falling out with Shannen too and i thought her and Alyssa were becoming close and now she's against her again. Fair-weather she seems to be.
Exactly
I hate how public perception keeps switching every few years and people just forget everything before and choose a side. It's clear all four of them are difficult to work with in some manner. A few years ago Holly had a feud with Shannen and liked Alyssa. All four of them created toxic workplace environment. Some did it more than others.
RIGHT? everyone used to support Milano because Doherty was a “B*tch” and guess what she probably was.
Now it’s flipped all of a sudden.
I remember watching either a charmed reunion or a comicon panel on yt a few years ago and Shannon was being classy about the drama, but Holly just dragged Alyssa so bad it made me lose a lot of respect for her.
We’ll never know the full story so I’ll just come to the conclusion that they all suck.
The producers made a grave mistake for siding with the bratt Milano instead of firing her. The show felt vacant after Shannon left. I stopped watching a season after. Shannon was beloved by the fans and would have kept the show going
I love Rose ❤❤❤
Always knew Alyssa was responsible for Shannen being fired, she had the most to gain, and she got it, Alyssa became the lead after Shannen left.
Alyssa has controlled the narrative for over two decades now, now she’s being exposed for the narcissist she is, how is it Shannen, Holly and Rose have all had issues with Alyssa? It’s obvious that Alyssa was the problem and not Shannen
Yet weirdly I never saw Alyssa as the lead after Shannen left. For a lot of people, I think Holly was absolutely the lead in terms of Piper now being the oldest sister, the mother, the most powerful. She took Prue's place. Phoebe was always a supporting character in my eyes and actually more of a comedic character and generally an awful human being compared to Paige and Piper.
Thank you for posting this! I love this ❤
i second that 😊❤
So glad that Shannen, Holly, and Rose are all supporting each other and finally going public with the truth. It's quite clear that Alyssa forced Shannen out - and it's ridiculous that she continues to deflect and deny the facts. I wish they'd do a Charmed reunion TV movie - with Shannen resurrected and working with sisters Holly and Rose to search for the kidnapped Alyssa (Phoebe) so that Alyssa would be missing in most of the story!
Exactly, without Alyssa!
Come on, Holly, really? Alyssa did not say you are liars, she just said her side of the truth. She has the right to do so, just as you and Shannen have. Alyssa was maybe the most successful actress among them back then, but I don't think she had the power to let anyone go. She was not as huge as Jennifer Aniston or Julia Roberts.
As a fan, there was a sudden change on the show after Prue died. It wasnt the same. Whenever i do my rewartch , it was just those 1-3 seasons. The only good thing after Prue dies was the introduction of Paige
How was Alyssa Milano behavior on Who's The Boss and between movie productions like Commando,etc?
Did she feel since she had been acting the longest she should have the last say over which character gets more screen time (creative differences) ,who stays and who goes?
Shannon Doherty was not to long gone from her short stint on 90210,so for us, she was one of the main reasons we watched.
I never knew of Holly Marie Combs until she was on Charmed.
I remember watching the first season of Charmed because we was heavy into Buffy:The Vampire Slayer,Xena:Warrior Princess,The X-Files and I think Melrose Place.
Just do a reunion show or movie and keep Alyssa out. That will make her jump up and down 😂
No. I only want to see the original trio. Prue, Piper and Phoebe. I like Paige, but it was not the same.
@@renealexander2703no ty. No Phoebe
@@susanstorm7910 ,phoebe is the original.
Phoebe’s powers are useless
I'd totally be down for Shannen, Holly and Rose filming together and scenes with Alyssa being edited in later.
More details needed. Keep on this story E !
Shannen didn’t want people to know the history of this ongoing feud yet she’s been talking about it for over a decade in small doses. I wish each of the ladies would share their own experiences candidly, as clearly it looks like Alyssa was/is the problem. People like this need be exposed and CANCELLED!
People who take sides: 🤮
People who realize they were all problematic: 👍🏻
RIP Shannen Doherty
Alyssa is the common denominator in these stories. She should just admit that she was a brat and deeply regrets her actions, the fact that she hasn’t done this.
And she has did this. She said this recently and years ago. What more is there to do?
Was Not good enough n definitely is still Hiding it, afraid that the truth would hurt her jersey brand collaboration with NFL!
You're only getting the story from people in front of the camera. Many guest stars and, more importantly, the regular 9 - 5 "behind the scenes" people have come out in support of Alyssa, saying she was the only one who treated the crew like humans. Let me know when one of them comes out in support of Shannen
@@randocommando6355I think people want her to be upfront with it, not using flowery language and talking around it, and saying without saying.
Not only has Alyssa taken responsibility for her portion, she also tried to have a third party mediator help them on set. Shannen and Holly refused to speak with the mediator. If The WB chose to stand by Alyssa after she threatened to sue, it’s b/c they knew she had grounds to do so. To me, Shannen was ultimately in the wrong.
how did alyssa take responsibility?
Alyssa has not taken accountability for getting her fired. She's basically denying it by saying she didn't have the power to do so.
@@kbar6644 , she admitted to being competitive.
@@heathergraham2581 , maybe she's telling the truth.
But she hasn’t. You don’t say for your part in it and leave it vague.
Alyssa's too busy creating Kickstarter campaigns to pay for her Kid's baseball team's trip to Cooperstown. 🤦♂️
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
What we didn’t know was that Shannon had the opportunity after season 1 to axe her but she chose not to. Alyssa got to make the same decision in season 3! This speaks well to someone’s character.
Now we know how much of a liar Alyssa is cause she's outnumbered; "power of 3" 😅. Let us not forget what she did to attack one of our male Supreme Court justices, bringing in a fake victim. Also let's look at who she's married to. I hope it was worth it cause she's one of the most hated.
Sad, they are all beautiful stars. Notice how Alyssa is in the middle now? My girls and I loved watching the show, always hoped for them to comeback. Never watched the new Charmed not sure if it still exist. Would love the old cast to come together and make a tv movie.
The show wasn’t all that 😂🤦
@@KryptonitePeter yet you are here watching the clip and felt the need to make a comment.
Why is Alyssa lying? Admit it and move on 😅
Team Holly Shannen Rose. Forever ❤❤❤
With all of this still going on, it’s a wonder these people made it 8 seasons without the show completely imploding!!
For real.
Lot of y’all are talking as though y’all were there on set. Y’all are just picking sides and I don’t doubt that y’all are doing this bc Shannon being sick automatically makes people more prone to victimize her in other peoples eyes and I don’t even think she’d enjoy that. There could b more than one truth at play here. Alyssa apologized twice in the past for whatever part she played during their shenanigans and once during the show attempted to attend mediation which Shannon refused to do.
Holly and Shannon knew each other PRIOR to filming Charmed and were close before then and close on set which gives off the impression that they both ostracized Alyssa during her and Shannon’s issues. Alyssa once described it as “high school” on set which Holly deflected during a Breakfast Club interview by saying that Alyssa “never even went to high school,” so Alyssa’s truth and perspective could very well b valid just as Shannon’s is.
There may not be a sole villain here and many of y’all demonizing Alyssa disingenuously are conveniently disregarding Shannon’s reputation she had even prior to Charmed as far as being difficult to work with. Could that have been bs when she was just strong minded and passionate? Sure. But it was her reputation nonetheless. They both likely made immature choices during different periods on set.
Holly hearing from 1 producer that Alyssa gave an ultimatum and providing no additional information doesn’t explain what the work environment was like up until that point that Alyssa allegedly said that. Multiple things could b true and I ain’t jumping at the chance to demonize one woman just bc the other is sick. The both of them are iconic actresses who made an iconic show and it’s unfortunate that they still have yet to talk about this shxt in person. 🤦🏾♀️
Imagine a world where Milano was replaced and we had Shannen, Holly and Rose as power of three...
Please do Charmed movie with Prue Piper and Paige without Phoebe,and show us that actually Phoebe died and not Prue at the end of the 3th season,that would be amazing!❤
As in other time line please do that🙏🏻
Naturally, I believe the ones who aged naturally. Not the one single one who seems utterly terrified of it.
A bit unrelated, but a telling/signaling thing for where someone’s honesty and true virtue is sometimes. Especially when it’s 3 out of 4 people with the same story…
I have every series they filmed. The entire collection. Alyssa is a strange bird.
Whatever it is that happened, it's more than 20 years ago, they should let it rest. Even if Alyssa had complained about Shannen, it was ultimately the producers' choice to axe Shannon. Knowing her history of being booted off a show before, this shouldn't really be a big shock. Alyssa is the smarter one in not trying to bring a 20+ year old feud to life again. I too have heard enough about all of this. Also, Rose is the last one that should get involved in this feud, she's the one who replaced Shannen and in fact should be thankful for that, cause it really was the gig that boosted her career and made her the celeb she is today.
After Shannon left, it never felt like Charmed anymore. Only if everyone on set had put their egos aside and tried to tolerate each other... 😖😖😖
It’s such a shame, my fantasy has been shattered. I always thought Shannon left to pursue other things, I didn’t realise she was pushed out. Melissa Milano has been showing her true colours over the last few years, it all makes sense now.
Anybody else disgusted with Alyssa and how she played a victim for MANY years when she was the issue and now all the other actresses have spoken out about her? She did not deserve her success for being such a sh!tty person, to also never make it right through all of Shannons health battles?! Ive lost ALL respect and support for Alyssa, she shouldnt have the life and success she doess with it all being built on a lie and her ruining someone elses career. Shame on her. Truly disgusted with her shadyness
I loved Charmed series bcoz of the three sisters. Piper was a sweetheart, Prue was the best❤ and Phoebe also. I never thought Alyssa had done such thing. They shouldnt haave feud among themselves. It was such a hit show❤
I don’t like how they’re trying to throw Alyssa under the bus like they all weren’t horrible to each other.
Thank you! The only sensible comment here! I was just saying that I remember Alyssa describing the set as “high school” and Holly deflecting during an interview with Shannon by saying “she didn’t even go to high school!” Holly KNEW Shannon prior to Charmed and they were close then and during the show which to me leaves the impression that they very well mightve ostracized Alyssa and still seem to b doing so especially with Rose present since she’s got a political beef w her.
I remember Alyssa apologizing TWICE for whatever part she played, attempting to attend mediation and Shannon refusing to b apart of it. Now Holly’s coming with this additional information decades that of what 1 producer told her about Alyssa having offered an ultimatum, and people are automatically believing it and or demonizing her for it as if she couldn’t have made that offer bc the work environment was toxic for her.
WE DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WE WERENT THERE! Women love to b b*tches and pick sides to demonize one in favor of the other and I don’t doubt that Shannon being unfortunately sick is victimizing her in other peoples eyes. She had a reputation before Charmed and they BOTH likely were immature with strong personalities during different periods on set!
Thank you❤
The other three aren’t horrible to each other though only with Alyssa. Do the math
@@jackkolero there has been several guest stars and some crew members that have come out saying that the girls fought each other all of the time. In this instance, they’re all being terrible to Alyssa but back during filming they all were equally involved.
Exactly, just look at the first season interviews and you can see that it was just like high school. Alyssa seemed so left out there and you can clearly see that Shannon and Holly were so close. I think they all had something to do with it, but to blame it all on Alyssa is not right.
I personally think Alyssa was the one who was experiencing bullying/mobing, and who eventually had no other choice but to complain to the management about Shannon in order to protect herself. Anyone would do the same. I would. Holly's word doesn't necessarily mean anything: she wouldn't be the first one who was on bully's side, gaslighting bulling victims even more. And she probably felt like she owed Doherty for that job. Just because both S and Rose don't like Alyssa, doesn't necessarily prove anything either. In schools too, often more than one bully hates one kid, but most often, it tells the least about the kid being bullied. Producer and technical personel have all said that Alyssa was the one who behaved totally okay.
You’re wrong. Why are you defending Alyssa? You’re brainwashed
Then why did Alyssa issue this public apology a few years back if she was the one being bullied?
"I could take responsibility for ALOT of our tension we had. I think ALOT of our struggle came from feeling that I was in competition rather than it being that sisterhood the show was so much about."
I mean, going to the mediator isn't proof that Alyssa wasn't the problem. And we have no idea Shannen's reasons for not going.
@@heathergraham2581 you are right. We can't know for sure, no one was social anthropologist doing ethnography on the spot. That's why I personally stress the importance of other people who got in the role of witness, plus the other testimonies about Shannon difficulty.
Being competitive per se isn't bad, and it can be done in a fair way. Here, however, it could be that Alyssa's competitiveness got sharper and aggressive, but only after Shannon started bullying her. Alyssa probably didn't like and was rude to her too, but the bully, Shannon, was the one who started that interpersonal dynamics, bullys usually do that.
Mediation and all, it seems quite fair to the other side who doesn't like you and doesn't have your best interests at heart. It shows how deeply she cared about the series and wanted it to survive despite the problems between ensemble members. Anything other than that wasn't Alyssa's problem.
Alyssa was not bullied,Shannen was great on that set. Brian Krause (Leo) said it is a myth that she was difficult and called her the “hardest working person on that set”
@@starsaligned2215 sometimes even the hardest working people have their target whom they bully. One doesn't necessarily exclude the other. There are people who say the same for Alyssa, so.. like I said, we can't say for sure.
But, don't you all find a bit suspicious how Shannon portrays her self as a total victim, Alyssa at leas took her part of responsibility? It's a bit strange.
Alyssa has given me the ick since “Who’s the Boss”. She has always had a dark soul.
I love how this show has lasted longer than the show they were all on. The storytelling and different perspectives…who will play them in the movie?
To be fair, though. As someone who watched the show back then, but who had also followed Shannen on 90210. Those with intelligence, we already knew that Shannen was an easier villain to paint.
I am sorry Shanen has died. She was such a charming person and it was so easy to enjoy her acting. You really felt she was the big sister. It's a shame there was conflict in the set.
I thought Alyssa apologized for this already? Management lies also. I only liked the first 3 seasons b/c the writing got silly snd lazy after that. Seems like more truth needs to be revealed to be healed!
Same I used to watch the reruns on tnt before going to middle school. The first 3 seasons had a darker tone, around season 5 it had a more goofy tone n it got so bad that I stopped watching.
@@JohnathanTuyaseason 4 is literally the darkest season
Why do people keep saying “their/my truth”… there’s only really one truth?
We believe Holly!
We can argue Alyssa muscled out Shannen and took over the show fair & square, since she won the audience from Shannen. Alyssa literally stole the show. Is it really so tragic that Shannen couldn’t beat her at her own game? No one can blame Shannen for being sore, especially since the show was never better than the first season. The Phoebe show just got silly with age but Holly saved the show’s soul.
It's so obvious to me that Alyssa is trying to save face. All she would have to do is except responsibility for her part and let the healing begin. Refusing to say yes i take responsibility for my part in her firing and yes i could have stopped it. She chose not too. Simple.
But she said that she takes responsibility about being competitive.
@@renealexander2703exactly. People like this don’t want to take facts into consideration if it means they won’t have to demonize a woman and or choose sides about a situation they weren’t there for. Shannon didn’t want to take part in mediation at the time while Alyssa apologized for her part. The ones demonizing her are conveniently omitting that
Trying to save face bc she isn’t confirming your suspicions when it could very possibly be not the whole truth? Trying to save face bc she refuses to entertain you and those accusing her of rehashing what occurred publicly? Please. She literally ACCEPTED responsibility yearssss ago by apologizing and attempting to attend mediation which Shannon didn’t wanna do. They both possibly made mistakes during different periods on set while you and others who weren’t there whatsoever are trying to demonize Alyssa. Why? Bc it’s easier to victimize Shannon considering her health issues.
Shes apologized many times
@@SupernaturalLove100 , good point. I try to be fair and objective.
Are any of us truly shocked? I'm glad that Shannen and Holly can fight those past demons, and leave it where it needs to be. I loved the show.. and, yes, it was obvious to so many of us that the show/storyline seemed to revolve around Phoebe once Pru died. I continued to watch, missing Pru, loving Piper, and hopeful for Paige.
It will remain one of my past favorite shows.
Shannen... peace and comfort at this time.
Holly... such a beautiful lady, thankful and grateful for her honesty. Can't be easy to do in Hollywood.
Now that you said that, I see it. The show really did revolve around Phoebe after Prue died. It’s really upsetting Prue’s character never really received the proper closure she deserved.
J'adore Shannen ❤. La série n'offrait plus d'intérêt après son départ et j'ai cessé de la regarder. Je pense sincèrement que les producteurs auraient dû choisir Shannen ! Je n'apprécie pas Alyssa Milano et pour moi Shannen a un charisme inégalé. Qu'elle guérisse vite et nous revienne car elle nous manque....
People who pick sides in a feud they haven't witnessed: Think about someone you are on bad terms with. Someone who said or did something that was wrong and it hurt you in some way. Imagine, you tell the story to your friends. They're obviously on your side and you all agree that that person is such a fraud. Now imagine this: That person has the same opinion about you and they are certain that they are in the right and you are in the wrong. They tell the story to their friends and they agree with them. The crazy thing is: both of your stories are true... from your own perspectives.
Let's be realistic: The fact that Shannen was fired is not the cause here, it is a consequence. A culmination of the events that happened behind the scenes during the previous 3 years. The producers surely knew about these events. It really doesn't matter who gave what ultimatum. At the end of the day, it was the producers' decision, not anyone else's.
You can pick sides, of course, but realise that you didn't pick that side based on facts. It's only because you dislike the other one for whatever opinionated reason.
Lifetime need to make a movie about this or a miniseries
Ryan Murphy should. The series he made about the Bette Davis and Joan Crawford feud was good.
Holly does make sense because she was always the one in the middle and trying to do the best with all of them. I agree with Holly. Alyssa could have changed the outcome years ago but now they all need to take accountability and responsibility about the past and now future and just be done with this back and forth.
But why is Holly mad now? Why wasn't she upset about this back in 2001?
Holly and Shannen are good friends
@@renealexander2703 She was always upset about this but things aren't how they are now. The media and tell your truth wasn't as big as it is now for celebs 🤷♀️ just a theory
@@Lfly7 , but if Holly was so upset about Shannen being fired, then why was she good friends with Alyssa?
@@renealexander2703 its probably like when I was best friends with two girls who didn't like each other. I didn't want a problem with either of them. I had different friendships with these girls but I worked with one and lived with another so 🤷♀️🤷♀️
As I said Holly is the main villain. She kept silent for all those years. And now when she is irrelevant. Now she is hashing it all out. Holly not so innocent
I agree
Well her friend is dying, she wants to help her clear her name.
Dense af
Sooo, a mediator suggested to keep the show going, Shannon needed to go, most of the episodes would revolve around Phoebe (and her love life) and Phoebe's wardrobe would change to skimpy?
You’re saying that Alyssa had all that power because she stood up for herself? Bull
I feel bad for Alyssa. Girl has been saying sorry multiple times and nobody remembered.
I'm nosy so i just wanna know what they were even fighting about...😂🤣😂
Basically Alyssa felt she was in a toxic work environment and Shannen I think overpowered a lot behind the scenes ....and Doherty I think wanted a lot more creative control too ...as well as being in the centre of posters and branding etc for those first two seasons that Milano really felt like she was getting sidelined and also that it wasn't a collaboration so much as them against us mentality....she filed a complaint but spelling entertainment and paramount utilised this to instead of make a more suitable work condition for the actresses or level playing field to use it as a chance to be rid of Doherty .... The media twisted it that Alyssa got rid of Shannen which holly then believed I think and thus it wasn't the best situation for them all inspite of McGowan being brought in hence why Milano and combs became producers on the show to ensure neither of them were offed as such ....but now it's transformed into something else
Listen to Shannen’s podcast.
@@JoshPinder92 Thank you!!
Nothing...
Sounds to me that the fued between Alyssa and Shannen got so bad that Alyssa threatened to sue (over the hostile work environment) and leave the show telling them that it was her or me. And the producers decided to go with Alyssa over Shannen. The whole "Alyssa had the power to say no"-thing doesn't make sense in that situation because if Alyssa wanted Shannen to stay she would've obviously been the one to step away from the show. Either way one of the sisters had to go because Alyssa couldn't work with Shannen.
Shannon was the one of made the ultimatum. Alyssa had every right to defend herself and her character.
Shame really because Alyssa basically shot herself in the foot. Once Shannon left, it basically went down hill from there! Charmed was never the same again.
I disagree. I loved Shannen/Prue, but Paige was an awesome addition to the show.
Don't lie
Alyssa was the problem. I heard that 20 years ago. It's not news.
Rose was talking crap about Alyssa. Why not invite Alyssa so she defend herself. Shannen was no angel💀
Where is that producer interview? I want to hear the story from him.