I have this same sub and amp combo myself. I really like how effortlessly this thing plays low bass. It destroys my Klipsch 12" powered sub I spent good money on.
Wood glue and water works for a lot of stuff, most of all it’s really good as a bonding layer, especially between incompatible chemicals. I’ve used wood glue as a primer to spray paint polystyrene foam with solvent heavy polyurethane spray paint. The trick when adding water is remember a little bit of water goes a long way, and that it’s difficult to be consistent with it. I use an empty inkjet refill syringe to test the thickness of it. If the blunt needle can suck it up then it’s thin enough, if it can’t then I add more water. I add just enough so that it can draw, not a drop more.
Yea, the preperation is insane, used subbox pro as well to get the basic layout, planned it in onshape and let my wood shop precut the wood, sadly they do not make the cutout so I either have to do it myself or get another shop to do it. At the moment it looks like I am on my own, so yea. It is a bit terrifying to imagine something and actually build it, but my new car is going to arrive at the end of the next month and by then I am probably going to be done with it. It's really a crazy idea. Green Leather, pretty thick mdf, 120l box weighting in about 40kg alone. Ambitious, but we will see how it turns out :D
When applying a wood veneer, it's good the day before to go and flatten the veneer as much as possible with weight like books. Be careful to not crack the veneer and add too much weight.
Great video! Your mixing of all the audio was equal level! So many youtubers have a crazy loud intro then their voice sounds like a whisper after you jumped and ran to turn the volume down. I had some bad experiences ordering some Parts Express speakers and plate amps like 20 years ago. Now I do not mess around. I use only Crown XLS amps whenever I want to build another sub setup.
I worked at a cabinet shop in dallas tx that used veneer skins and we were made to attach or apply the skins with spray adhesive and used a fine bastard file to cut and finish the edges it was super simple but took some practice
If you put threaded inserts in the back of the baffle you can use them as clamps to pull it down while glue is drying on fixing to the front (or not glue it). This is a nice way of doing the front baffle for perfect alignment - especially if you have oversized it a bit for a shadow line or some such :). I had a double thickness baffle - so I lay one layer on the front of sub where it was to attach, drilled holes through both. Place threaded inserts in the baffle, then glue the two baffle layers together and do the finishing (threaded inserts exposed out the back).
First I want to just say the quality of your video is so top notch I have really watched it a few times. The way you speak, your angles and your transitions. Just A+ and how its suppose to be done in my opinon. 2nd the sub design is amazng. So much I am following your build for my own. May I ask what software you did the design in? Is it in Sketch Up? If so do you share your Sktchup files? If not I understand.
Your video was extremely well done and I plan on building one for myself. I am reasonably accomplished with woodworking and Love what you did with the cabinet. However, I am new to building subs. The plate amp you recommend is no longer available. Will any 300 amp plate work such as the one recommended by Amazon?
@@chrisferris3303 heck yeah man! Can't wait to check em out (: I've been getting into building myself and I'm just eating up all the content I can and absorbing all the information possible (:
imo, as far as not being well suited for some genres of music, just adjust the volume and or frequency on the amp higher or lower. I have a Polk Audio sub and this works just fine for me.
Subscribed. Nice build. Between you and Toids I’m gonna have plenty of builds. How well would this work as a sealed build? I like the look of it. Probably need more internal bracing as a sealed. Would this woofer work in a sealed environment. ? More for a dedicated 2 channel setup. Anyway, great video , clean production and good narrative.
Very nice content :) I love how you build custom speakers :) (klipsch fanboy here 😅) i use a pretty high end headset when listening to these so a recommendation... Do a 'with sub / wo sub' comparison with the same song :) I love to hear the difference :)
What is the purpose of the angled corner pieces? Is it bracing for the corners? I see a lot of boxes that put those in on the corners around ports and the claim is that it helps reduce air flow issues cause it reduces the angle from a 90 to a 45 for the flow. But.. what about the top/bottom parts? Seems like you would need to put those in all areas of the port.. top, bottom and corners. Otherwise you're still getting resonance issues in those 90 degree seams.
It's worth noting that more or even excessive output at deep frequencies can make a subwoofer sound "slow" or "boomy", when that is more likely a problem of the room's interaction. My guess is that objectively the Klipsch performs no better than yours with regards to transient response or damping
Sound quality for this video was good and you have nice microphones. That works, and good video. Cool sub. It seems really the big difference between building your own instead purchasing a sub is the outer appearance. This sub looked pretty good. But are you looking t it or listening to it? I'd be happy if it sounded great rather than looked great so DIY is I think a good way to increase performance.
That is absolutely a beautiful furniture grade sub cabinet. I enjoyed the build. Why are you using foam in the cabinet? I was taught to use an amplifier with at least double the rms of the speaker, so you have some clean dynamic headroom for the speaker. Anyway, great vid
Hey thanks for watching. I went with foam based off of products I’ve had using similar material. As for the amp. You’re probably right but the combo I’m using is giving me great results.
That Klipsch sub is an absolute monster. Perfect combo of cost effective materials and design. The big thing I notice between the 2 is the klipsch’s ability to deliver transient material. It’s really quick if that makes sense. So yeah I think that motor and amp combo are a perfect pairing.
Did you factor in port air velocity? Sub-box Pro will give you the correct length for vents, but that's it. Great build but port chuff is an easy way to ruin a subwoofer.
Hey rohcycling5646. Thanks for watching. I was fortunate that there is little to no chuffing with this design. I’d be lying if I said air velocity was a consideration :). That’s the best thing about DIY builds always something new to learn and consider. Thanks
Hey man, excellent video! Enclosure came out very nice! Like the editing style as well. Curious if youve done tests between going only to 2000 grit vs 5000? Since you're applying another top coat (instead of polishing the finish) you may not need to go as smooth to get your final coat looking good. Shoot, we only went to 2000 before cutting and polishing cars when i was doing them 😅 may save you some time? Also, if it measured better... I'd say you built a better sub 😉 well done!
Yeah this is the first time I’ve gone all the way to 5000 grit. My brother swears by doing it this way so I thought I’d give it a go :). I’ve made some other furniture using 2000 to smooth out the finish nearly identical but there is a slight difference…even if it’s in our heads lol. Thanks for watching @LifeofBliss .
Hi I buy the same bash but sound low vol Maybe i need new av receiver?? The receiver i use is old and maybe 25w or the woofer box is small And how set phase and freq?? Thanks
Hey thanks for watching. My guess is it has something to do with the driver in the sub or the cabinet. The receiver will have control’s for the bass management but shouldn’t be the cause of a low output unless it’s turned down on the receiver end. Try connecting it to your phone or CD player directly. If you can get more volume out of it then it could be setting issues on the receiver.
Hey Erand, thanks for watching. I now use these speakers and sub in my office where I do my video edits. They work really well as reference for my video projects.
@Chris Ferris just rewatched the video and realized you mentioned the software already. You must do this for a living considering its price. Unless you have a trick for all of us on how to get it cheaper. 😉😉
@@MrBroly10000 I use this software for live production work so the license is paid for. There are other platforms like “Sketchup” for example that you can draw in and get the same results. To be honest there probably better suited for this type of stuff :).
ive got a 10" sub. in a massive case. and the speaker really goes. it moves up and down. i can hear the low frequenties but i cant feel them.. i want to feel the bass. what im i doing wrong?
How much time took you the job from am A to B? Sometimes, people get delusional thinking this is a 1-2 days job... I know from experience this is not a weekend job. Anyway, nice job mate👌🙌
@chrisferris3303 and PS. My husband and I took apart an old single car speaker and realized how easy it it to cut and assemble so we brainstormed the idea to start making them. And your video popped up when I searched "how to make your own subwoofer". Although your content wasn't exactly what I needed, I still watched your video for tips and expert info. Learned alot! Thank you. Don't worry, we're gonna sand until rapture now lol!
У меня два сабвуфера и я слышу и могу понять характер - почерк звучания акустической системы класса сабвуфер, всё-таки стоит демонстрировать работу сабвуферов, ведь не только у меня они есть.
If you have a good Hi-Fidelity Stereo or audio system at home then "Yes" you can hear the different nuances between subwoofers and speakers. However, that's assuming a good microphone is used to record the subwoofer instead of your cell phone. It's like when people may shoot a decent video with their cell at a concert, but sound quality is horrid, and you wonder "why bother" it sounds like crap.
looks great but your amp is underpowered. you should always use a much larger amp than the subwoofer is rated for. it's perfectly fine to have 1000W transients on a 300W RMS sub, and in fact, this is what you want. As long as, of course, they're just transients.
Unless the amp or his source has a high-pass filter, he'll be running into excursion limits at a fraction of the power, so it's unnecessary. Regardless, if this can get as loud as he wants, more power is wasted
Agreed - I have made that mistake in car audio with even some higher end rockford fosgste amps… they will deal with clipping for only so long before both the amp and sub (jl audio!) will self destruct…. Worse: the electrical smell will be so bad you will end up throwing away the enclosure…. So lesson learned 2.5-3x the wattage I think I will need… I would rather have a blown sub than a more expensive amp!!! Same story with brands like M-Audio - internal plate amps = garbage components made in Chinuh… you get about 5-7 years and then you’re SOL… sad because I absolutely loved the smooth sound of my m3-6’s for near field use… they were sleepers for 2013 era speakers
Yeah, this is too much... I would have to mess up about 500 times and spend tens of thousands of dollars on those mess ups before I could create something as good as this
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That's probably the best production I have ever seen for a diy build and you do a very good job explaining.
Thank so much Bostonblessed.
It comes through on headphones just fine so long as you use quality mics in the recording. I want to hear the comparison. 👍
one of the best diy videos I've ever seen. Made me want to do it immediately
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching :)
I have this same sub and amp combo myself. I really like how effortlessly this thing plays low bass. It destroys my Klipsch 12" powered sub I spent good money on.
Wood glue and water works for a lot of stuff, most of all it’s really good as a bonding layer, especially between incompatible chemicals. I’ve used wood glue as a primer to spray paint polystyrene foam with solvent heavy polyurethane spray paint. The trick when adding water is remember a little bit of water goes a long way, and that it’s difficult to be consistent with it. I use an empty inkjet refill syringe to test the thickness of it. If the blunt needle can suck it up then it’s thin enough, if it can’t then I add more water. I add just enough so that it can draw, not a drop more.
Yea, the preperation is insane, used subbox pro as well to get the basic layout, planned it in onshape and let my wood shop precut the wood, sadly they do not make the cutout so I either have to do it myself or get another shop to do it. At the moment it looks like I am on my own, so yea. It is a bit terrifying to imagine something and actually build it, but my new car is going to arrive at the end of the next month and by then I am probably going to be done with it. It's really a crazy idea. Green Leather, pretty thick mdf, 120l box weighting in about 40kg alone. Ambitious, but we will see how it turns out :D
When applying a wood veneer, it's good the day before to go and flatten the veneer as much as possible with weight like books. Be careful to not crack the veneer and add too much weight.
Awesome thanks @johannjohann6523!
Great video! Your mixing of all the audio was equal level! So many youtubers have a crazy loud intro then their voice sounds like a whisper after you jumped and ran to turn the volume down. I had some bad experiences ordering some Parts Express speakers and plate amps like 20 years ago. Now I do not mess around. I use only Crown XLS amps whenever I want to build another sub setup.
yeah, it's because he understands levels, eq, and he cares. excellent qualities for an audio yt channel imho!
ive used the 8" version of the Dayton reference and it is an exceedingly smooth and musical subwoofer. just the 8" plays well down into the 20's!
Beautiful sub and beautiful build nice job I'm gonna build 2 of these
I worked at a cabinet shop in dallas tx that used veneer skins and we were made to attach or apply the skins with spray adhesive and used a fine bastard file to cut and finish the edges it was super simple but took some practice
If you put threaded inserts in the back of the baffle you can use them as clamps to pull it down while glue is drying on fixing to the front (or not glue it). This is a nice way of doing the front baffle for perfect alignment - especially if you have oversized it a bit for a shadow line or some such :).
I had a double thickness baffle - so I lay one layer on the front of sub where it was to attach, drilled holes through both.
Place threaded inserts in the baffle, then glue the two baffle layers together and do the finishing (threaded inserts exposed out the back).
Great call. I’ll try that next time. Thanks for the advice
Получилось весьма гармонично и толково. Мне понравились изделие и подача материала. Приятно смотреть - Спасибо!
Beautiful subwoofer, you got me all inspired to build my own !! thank you...
I use this sub lots... Very fast and accurate. It can dig very low with authority. My personal systems all use this driver.
Nice build. Love DIY audio, so immediately subscribed. Very high production value of the video!
I think a little bracing wouldn't have hurt
I think you did build a better subwoofer than Klipsch. Yours is definitely more attractive. Nice job.
First I want to just say the quality of your video is so top notch I have really watched it a few times. The way you speak, your angles and your transitions. Just A+ and how its suppose to be done in my opinon.
2nd the sub design is amazng. So much I am following your build for my own. May I ask what software you did the design in? Is it in Sketch Up? If so do you share your Sktchup files? If not I understand.
I'm starting my build next week 🎉 YAY
Sir ! How to pair it with a home theatre or tower speaker
It's like the why files for music enthusiast! .. very informative ..👍
Your video was extremely well done and I plan on building one for myself. I am reasonably accomplished with woodworking and Love what you did with the cabinet. However, I am new to building subs. The plate amp you recommend is no longer available. Will any 300 amp plate work such as the one recommended by Amazon?
Yeah. I’d recommend a Class D with a minimum rating of 300watts rms. The Bash stuff is great if you can find one.
using a climb cut when flushing veneer helps a lot with tearout IME
Fantastic diy sub video. Love the measurement comparison of well known reference subs. Props 👍
Thanks for watching
Another banger! Beautiful work as always.
Thanks Brother 🙏
Excellent build !!
Really impressive work and production. What a fun hobby.
Thanks for watching @MrRonnmaui
I remember back in the 90s’ you could find all of the sub box info in the crutchfield catalog.
The ending was true yet very funny 🤣 all we would hear " Brrrrr''
This was great! Hope to see more build videos
Hey thanks for the support. I have new speakers build in the works
@@chrisferris3303 heck yeah man! Can't wait to check em out (: I've been getting into building myself and I'm just eating up all the content I can and absorbing all the information possible (:
imo, as far as not being well suited for some genres of music, just adjust the volume and or frequency on the amp higher or lower. I have a Polk Audio sub and this works just fine for me.
Like the rounded port
Outstanding work…. Can’t wait for more videos like this!
Great video. This seems a bit more newb friendly than the previous..
Buen contenido, gracias por los datos y por ser realista con la prueba de sonido 🤣😂
Subscribed. Nice build. Between you and Toids I’m gonna have plenty of builds. How well would this work as a sealed build? I like the look of it. Probably need more internal bracing as a sealed. Would this woofer work in a sealed environment. ? More for a dedicated 2 channel setup. Anyway, great video , clean production and good narrative.
Hey Kodiak. Thanks for watching. This driver will work in a sealed box. Dayton recommends an internal volume of 0.53 ft3.
Awesome video! Love the step by step
Thanks for watching @jorgem50
Very nice content :) I love how you build custom speakers :) (klipsch fanboy here 😅) i use a pretty high end headset when listening to these so a recommendation... Do a 'with sub / wo sub' comparison with the same song :) I love to hear the difference :)
Thanks for the props and thanks for watching. That’s a good idea for a short. I’ll try and put something like that together for some future content.
What is the purpose of the angled corner pieces? Is it bracing for the corners? I see a lot of boxes that put those in on the corners around ports and the claim is that it helps reduce air flow issues cause it reduces the angle from a 90 to a 45 for the flow. But.. what about the top/bottom parts? Seems like you would need to put those in all areas of the port.. top, bottom and corners. Otherwise you're still getting resonance issues in those 90 degree seams.
Yeah you got it. Though I was more concerned with reinforcing the corners as I didn’t do any joinery :)
Nice detailed video. Thanks. IT gave me some ideos.💪🙂
Could you build a PA sub? maybe s 6th order bandpass?
What's making the Klipsch better than yours? More controlled bass? Quicker?
All of the above and a legacy of R&D. But there is something special about being rocked by your own cabinet design :). Thanks for watching.
It's worth noting that more or even excessive output at deep frequencies can make a subwoofer sound "slow" or "boomy", when that is more likely a problem of the room's interaction. My guess is that objectively the Klipsch performs no better than yours with regards to transient response or damping
Great looking build.
Thanks @fredthompson1279
Sound quality for this video was good and you have nice microphones. That works, and good video. Cool sub. It seems really the big difference between building your own instead purchasing a sub is the outer appearance. This sub looked pretty good. But are you looking t it or listening to it? I'd be happy if it sounded great rather than looked great so DIY is I think a good way to increase performance.
What is the dimensions of this amazing subwoofer box
That does look really nice man
Thanks Larry. Appreciate it.
Try using threaded inserts next time for ease of access if for some reason its In need of modificatoin
That is absolutely a beautiful furniture grade sub cabinet. I enjoyed the build. Why are you using foam in the cabinet? I was taught to use an amplifier with at least double the rms of the speaker, so you have some clean dynamic headroom for the speaker. Anyway, great vid
Hey thanks for watching. I went with foam based off of products I’ve had using similar material. As for the amp. You’re probably right but the combo I’m using is giving me great results.
Nice job! I just would not put the amplifier in the same sub acoustic volume. To much vibrations . Best regards, Toni from Brazil.
Why do you think the Klipsch is better? do you think maybe it's due to the amp or the woofer? your box looks amazingly done. so I doubt its the box.
That Klipsch sub is an absolute monster. Perfect combo of cost effective materials and design. The big thing I notice between the 2 is the klipsch’s ability to deliver transient material. It’s really quick if that makes sense. So yeah I think that motor and amp combo are a perfect pairing.
Did you factor in port air velocity? Sub-box Pro will give you the correct length for vents, but that's it. Great build but port chuff is an easy way to ruin a subwoofer.
Hey rohcycling5646. Thanks for watching. I was fortunate that there is little to no chuffing with this design. I’d be lying if I said air velocity was a consideration :). That’s the best thing about DIY builds always something new to learn and consider. Thanks
Hey man, excellent video! Enclosure came out very nice! Like the editing style as well.
Curious if youve done tests between going only to 2000 grit vs 5000? Since you're applying another top coat (instead of polishing the finish) you may not need to go as smooth to get your final coat looking good. Shoot, we only went to 2000 before cutting and polishing cars when i was doing them 😅 may save you some time?
Also, if it measured better... I'd say you built a better sub 😉 well done!
Yeah this is the first time I’ve gone all the way to 5000 grit. My brother swears by doing it this way so I thought I’d give it a go :). I’ve made some other furniture using 2000 to smooth out the finish nearly identical but there is a slight difference…even if it’s in our heads lol.
Thanks for watching @LifeofBliss .
how you power the sub and make sure its in tune with you speakers ?
The Sub is powered by the plate amp. The Receiver will allow me to tune the Sub to the speakers. Thanks for Watching.
Hi
I buy the same bash but sound low vol
Maybe i need new av receiver?? The receiver i use is old and maybe 25w or the woofer box is small
And how set phase and freq?? Thanks
Hey thanks for watching. My guess is it has something to do with the driver in the sub or the cabinet. The receiver will have control’s for the bass management but shouldn’t be the cause of a low output unless it’s turned down on the receiver end. Try connecting it to your phone or CD player directly. If you can get more volume out of it then it could be setting issues on the receiver.
Saw your other build video too where you're located in a studio. You never mention is the monitors or subwoofer are suited for critical mixing?
Hey Erand, thanks for watching. I now use these speakers and sub in my office where I do my video edits. They work really well as reference for my video projects.
What software do you use to 3d model the box? Would like to cut the box with a CNC.
I use vectorworks.
@Chris Ferris just rewatched the video and realized you mentioned the software already. You must do this for a living considering its price. Unless you have a trick for all of us on how to get it cheaper. 😉😉
@@MrBroly10000 I use this software for live production work so the license is paid for. There are other platforms like “Sketchup” for example that you can draw in and get the same results. To be honest there probably better suited for this type of stuff :).
Yes, it is better than the Klipsch ... obviously!
Good quality work
ive got a 10" sub. in a massive case. and the speaker really goes. it moves up and down. i can hear the low frequenties but i cant feel them.. i want to feel the bass. what im i doing wrong?
Sounds like the Cabinet is too large for the driver. If you have the specs for the driver there should be recommended sealed and vented cabinet sizes
id say you did actually make a better sub than the klipsch , specially if your other speakers have good low end down to about 80hz,
Great job I'm glad you made it more like a sub u would have in your home
A little off topic but… where did you get that cardigan?
Is the driver a single or dual voice coil driver?
Hey, thanks for watching. Dayton Audio says it’s a 4 layer single coil.
Vectorworks! 😁 4:20
How much time took you the job from am A to B? Sometimes, people get delusional thinking this is a 1-2 days job... I know from experience this is not a weekend job. Anyway, nice job mate👌🙌
Thanks for watching! I did the build over about 2 weeks. Not everyday, the staining and sanding always take me the longest
@chrisferris3303 Thank you for replying to my comment 👌🙌
A few cross braces would have been beneficial to the tightness of sound. Yes, it’s audible.
MDF 800 grit?😁
You look like David Cross had he not went the comedy route and instead became a guidance counselor. 😊
Haha awesome
@chrisferris3303 omg didn't know if you'd see this or not lol. I'm sorry. If it supports my claim, I love David cross 😆
@chrisferris3303 and PS. My husband and I took apart an old single car speaker and realized how easy it it to cut and assemble so we brainstormed the idea to start making them. And your video popped up when I searched "how to make your own subwoofer". Although your content wasn't exactly what I needed, I still watched your video for tips and expert info. Learned alot! Thank you. Don't worry, we're gonna sand until rapture now lol!
Haha that’s great thanks for watching and good luck!
Another person who discovered building a wood box and cutting a round hole in it is not difficult. Congrats
У вас очень круто получается, хотелось стать вашим ученником
Huge bass 😂😂
У меня два сабвуфера и я слышу и могу понять характер - почерк звучания акустической системы класса сабвуфер, всё-таки стоит демонстрировать работу сабвуферов, ведь не только у меня они есть.
My comment made you 1k likes 👍 from 999 likes. I love it.
😂that's what she said😂
If you have a good Hi-Fidelity Stereo or audio system at home then "Yes" you can hear the different nuances between subwoofers and speakers. However, that's assuming a good microphone is used to record the subwoofer instead of your cell phone. It's like when people may shoot a decent video with their cell at a concert, but sound quality is horrid, and you wonder "why bother" it sounds like crap.
U should try a sub with a dvc they hit much harder and play louder
Nvm its a single i saw on the next part
looks great but your amp is underpowered. you should always use a much larger amp than the subwoofer is rated for. it's perfectly fine to have 1000W transients on a 300W RMS sub, and in fact, this is what you want. As long as, of course, they're just transients.
Unless the amp or his source has a high-pass filter, he'll be running into excursion limits at a fraction of the power, so it's unnecessary.
Regardless, if this can get as loud as he wants, more power is wasted
Agreed - I have made that mistake in car audio with even some higher end rockford fosgste amps… they will deal with clipping for only so long before both the amp and sub (jl audio!) will self destruct…. Worse: the electrical smell will be so bad you will end up throwing away the enclosure….
So lesson learned 2.5-3x the wattage I think I will need… I would rather have a blown sub than a more expensive amp!!!
Same story with brands like M-Audio - internal plate amps = garbage components made in Chinuh… you get about 5-7 years and then you’re SOL… sad because I absolutely loved the smooth sound of my m3-6’s for near field use… they were sleepers for 2013 era speakers
😂😂glue with a mask?
Yeah, this is too much... I would have to mess up about 500 times and spend tens of thousands of dollars on those mess ups before I could create something as good as this
your title sucks you didn't build a subwoofer you built a box big difference there.
Thanks for watching :)
You built a box not a subwoofer
Thanks for watching @danielkmit4145