its because of the unified core architecture and how it handles graphics.without going into serious technical detail its why old ass cards like the 8800gt were able to run new games despite its lack of dx11 and 12 but nothing before it like the 7000 series from nvidia wouldnt be able to run anything cause its based on pipelines and not the core architecture. its also why the 360 performs better in all the games they released for the 360 and ps3 together.ps3 uses pipelines and the 360 uses unified core architecture
@@gamalielgarcia3742 simply put unified cores are multiple small cores on the GPU and they can be used for various taksks where needed,Pipelines in older graphics cards use fixed function pupelines like vertex shaders,geometry shaders,pixel shaders and pipelines and some others.Problem is they are fixed function units.So if a game doesnt use vertex shaders then that part of the card is idle.Unified cores can do all of that and arent fixed to one function.I guess a good way to put it is think of a team of 10 men pushing a log up a hill evenly spread out,If they hit a bump on one side 4 of them can go and lend assistance with the heavier load(unified cores) as pipelines the men cant move and have to stay in place and wait for them to struggle with the heavier load. Its a stupid analysis but its basically how unified cores work.They can assist with anything universally in game various graphical effects and put to best use.its what they are talking about when they talk about CUDA cores and AMD calls them shader cores or sometimes just refers to them as cores
@Stormy Lol All the high power cpu does is make sure that the gpu can be used 2 its fullest potential. The video is dedicated 2 testing the gpu and how much performance it can bring 2 the table. Which is why he is making sure there are no cpu bottlenecks for the benchmarks.
@Stormy Lol I understand that. But I was surprised by the games that are not cpu based. Also cpu usage never went over 20% In valorant anyways so plenty of mid-ranged cpus would still hit similar fps anyways.
The most likely reason for the lack of full utilization of fermi hardware, under RDR2, is because the GPU pipeline is continually stalled due to continuous memory transfer operations, thank to the substantially limited vram. This is made worse by being bandwidth constrained to PCIe 2.0.
These old top graphics cards are grossly underrated in my opinion. Their video chips still have enough power to compete with more modern budget video cards. But they have two major drawbacks: very old drivers and little memory. I myself own the old HD5870 and when the memory overflows, the performance drops by 2-3 times. This seems to be what we are seeing in this video, I think the difference in different games is much greater than in other video cards with a large amount of memory.
I think AMD dropped support for HD5/6000 series a bit early. I still finished Rise of the Tomb Raider with my HD6870 and tried Battlefield 1 beta and it gave me good enough performance.
Not that it would help anyone looking to game seriously with GPU that no longer have official driver support, but I recently cobbled together an old Core2 Duo system that had a GT8400 inside as a graphics card and installed Linux on it (Debian based). The official drivers were 370.0 something, very old and outdated at this point, and I tried playing some 2-D indie games like Streets Of Rogue, Enter The Gungeon etc. and there were literally graphics glitches and artifacts on the screen. I decided to to try out the open source Noveu drivers as they were much more recent. And those ended up fixing most of the graphical glitches with the 2-D indie titles. So what I'm trying to say is that it may be worth a shot to use a Linux distro with an outdated card like this using the open source drivers.
Ah the good old GTX 470 😃😄 One Winter I remember testing an overclock using Furmark, it got to around 105c and was soldiering on like a champ! 🤭😂😅 Kept me lovely in warm while playing games very late at night though 👍😜 Upgraded to a GTX1060 about half a decade later. Many lovely warm Winter game sessions. What a gem 😉
I love it so much watching those old/er GPUs being benchmarked !! More or less , about new GPUs we can guess how they will perform , but seeing how these old & legendary GPUs perform today , takes the nostalgia-hype in a whole new level !!! --P.S. I own a GTX460 and a GTS450 but never owned a GTX470 , so thanks Kryzzp !!
quite surprised how well BF1 is optimized, i remember i tried Open beta with my GTX 770 in 2016 and it could only run medium with 50fps~, surprised that 470 can run it at low 60, that's impressive
@@lombredeshakuras1481 Technically it could be even better, but in most titles the driver support and the fact 1050 2gb is a lot newer may tip scales in favor for it. In older titles it's a different story, maybe. However, in the current market likely you'll get a 670 a lot cheaper.
Well, the remasters look a little nicer, but also run better too, so the old cards should play them nicely. That's if they don't crash because of architecture or some shit Here's the old Crysis Warhead absolutely maxed out at 1080p if you're interested, a little laggy at times because of the FRAPS recorder and the antialiasing is maxed out too - ruclips.net/video/TXnAeAaK-mo/видео.html
Battlefield 1 performance was very impressive. I have a GTX 470 sitting in-front of me, I'm going to build a temporary PC while my Zephyrus G14 is in for repairs hahah
Yo whats up. I know this is an off topic question but do you know any fix for Fortnite showing the error "a d3d11 compatible gpu (feature level 11.0, shader model 5.0) is required to run the engine. This happens on GTX 750 Ti and I have tried every fix that I have found on the Internet but nothing worked unless i have skipped any possible working fix. If you can help me it would be much appriciated. Also love the vids and I appriciate you helping people decide what GPU-s to get 😀
@Unknown Nomad yes other games work perfect even if they are still installed from Epic Games (cuz i thought there could have been files corrupted on Epic). And also Fortnite worked great a few months ago but when i recently fixed my PC, only Fortnite doesnt work. If I cant find a solution I will probably send it to be fixed again
hey kryzzp or anyone looking, I'm building a new pc next month and I'm stuck between what rtx card i should get. 2060? 2060 super? A 30 series? A little steer in the right direction would be really helpful. ps love the content, you have gotta be one of my favourite youtubers atm =)
Kinda strange how the GTX 470 couldn't launch God of War. It's probably driver related to that one, as God of War actually uses Direct X 11. But yeah, I have an EVGA GTX 470 laying around. Tested a while back. it's quite impressive still. At least Metro Exodus is playable on it too.
@Unknown Nomad But even DX11.1 is supported by this GPU. DX11.1 was mainly a software side update anyway. But AFAIk GOW has issues even on newer GTX600 series. It behaves like it's a DX12 game. Weird.
sir i would really appreciate your guidance , my gpu gtx 960 4gb has lost display and now i need to buy something else to play battlefield 1(kinda the only game i play ) and MAYBE bf V if i purchased it somewhere in the future i have a 900p display and a i5 3570 , i'm asking you because my budget is really low due to my very high study expenses What gpu should i buy ? please reply :((
Does AMD hd7870 powered by GCN 1.0 support Dying Light 2? I have searched through the internet and can't find one benchmark of GCN 1.0 graphic cards running DL 2.0.
I'm wondering where you get your gpu's, cause I always hear you talking about prices of certain cards, but whenever I look it's at least €50 more expensive
Hey man Love your videos. Can you make a independent csgo optimization video for old gpus. Like what settings to use or is caping fps better for lower input lag.
I used to have a GTX 460m a long time ago, it worked but it eventually just fried it self because of how hot it kept getting. Like the motherboard had burn marks around the GPU chip.
Do you have a i5-11400f and 3070? If so I wanna ask if you will make a video with those specs, I will greatly appreciate it btw where is your accent from? It sounds awesome!
This is pretty good performance for a card that released over a decade ago
its because of the unified core architecture and how it handles graphics.without going into serious technical detail its why old ass cards like the 8800gt were able to run new games despite its lack of dx11 and 12 but nothing before it like the 7000 series from nvidia wouldnt be able to run anything cause its based on pipelines and not the core architecture. its also why the 360 performs better in all the games they released for the 360 and ps3 together.ps3 uses pipelines and the 360 uses unified core architecture
@@kyles8524 uhh what
@@gamalielgarcia3742 simply put unified cores are multiple small cores on the GPU and they can be used for various taksks where needed,Pipelines in older graphics cards use fixed function pupelines like vertex shaders,geometry shaders,pixel shaders and pipelines and some others.Problem is they are fixed function units.So if a game doesnt use vertex shaders then that part of the card is idle.Unified cores can do all of that and arent fixed to one function.I guess a good way to put it is think of a team of 10 men pushing a log up a hill evenly spread out,If they hit a bump on one side 4 of them can go and lend assistance with the heavier load(unified cores) as pipelines the men cant move and have to stay in place and wait for them to struggle with the heavier load. Its a stupid analysis but its basically how unified cores work.They can assist with anything universally in game various graphical effects and put to best use.its what they are talking about when they talk about CUDA cores and AMD calls them shader cores or sometimes just refers to them as cores
you know why? bus width
@@SHUTENSEPC i think you mean bandwidth lol, bus width has nothing to do with it
It honestly impresses me how long some Nvidia GPUs last.
It will last until Microsoft Updates says "DIE!!!"
say that to my 2009 i5-750. still overclockable.
@@Ghastify is it worse than my i3 2120?
You have a gtx 560
@@mudryy_ovash69 710’s architecture is better
I did not imagine that this card would perform this well. 😳
Neither did I, especially in battlefield 1, damn... 😯
@Stormy Lol are you actually serious?
@Stormy Lol All the high power cpu does is make sure that the gpu can be used 2 its fullest potential. The video is dedicated 2 testing the gpu and how much performance it can bring 2 the table. Which is why he is making sure there are no cpu bottlenecks for the benchmarks.
@Stormy Lol I understand that. But I was surprised by the games that are not cpu based. Also cpu usage never went over 20% In valorant anyways so plenty of mid-ranged cpus would still hit similar fps anyways.
@Stormy Lol you have no idea what you're talking about. Even an old 3rd gen i7 would fully utilize the GTX 470. Maybe even older than that too.
I really miss the days when mid-high end GPUs used to cost MSRP and at a decent price 😭
Buy a founders edition graphics card 😈🤣
@@RTeditz24 they're all being scalped as well, not worth it.
@@memenation5105 i subbed you
@@RTeditz24 thanks, but why?
@@memenation5105 i don,t know 😂😂😂😂😂😂 just chillllll lol🤣
For Fortnite - the tree bugs happen with any card, in performance mode. It's a LOD bug, and a workaround is to set the render distance to Epic.
19:04 kryzzp this is also what happens when I use performance mode on my 3060 ti, so it is not the issue of the old gpu.
I think the fix for that is setting the textures to higher or smth, idk that fixed it for me atleast
Same here with GTX 960 4GB.
You have to set the textures to high/epic on performance mode to fix that. I have a 3060 Ti as well.
@@arnavjoshi7047 nah put epic render distance
You got a 3060ti 🥺
The most likely reason for the lack of full utilization of fermi hardware, under RDR2, is because the GPU pipeline is continually stalled due to continuous memory transfer operations, thank to the substantially limited vram. This is made worse by being bandwidth constrained to PCIe 2.0.
These old top graphics cards are grossly underrated in my opinion. Their video chips still have enough power to compete with more modern budget video cards. But they have two major drawbacks: very old drivers and little memory. I myself own the old HD5870 and when the memory overflows, the performance drops by 2-3 times. This seems to be what we are seeing in this video, I think the difference in different games is much greater than in other video cards with a large amount of memory.
I think AMD dropped support for HD5/6000 series a bit early. I still finished Rise of the Tomb Raider with my HD6870 and tried Battlefield 1 beta and it gave me good enough performance.
😊
Not that it would help anyone looking to game seriously with GPU that no longer have official driver support, but I recently cobbled together an old Core2 Duo system that had a GT8400 inside as a graphics card and installed Linux on it (Debian based). The official drivers were 370.0 something, very old and outdated at this point, and I tried playing some 2-D indie games like Streets Of Rogue, Enter The Gungeon etc. and there were literally graphics glitches and artifacts on the screen. I decided to to try out the open source Noveu drivers as they were much more recent. And those ended up fixing most of the graphical glitches with the 2-D indie titles.
So what I'm trying to say is that it may be worth a shot to use a Linux distro with an outdated card like this using the open source drivers.
If you're using a system that old, at that point just cut your losses and try out some good titles on the Genesis emulator.
Ah the good old GTX 470 😃😄
One Winter I remember testing an overclock using Furmark, it got to around 105c and was soldiering on like a champ! 🤭😂😅
Kept me lovely in warm while playing games very late at night though 👍😜
Upgraded to a GTX1060 about half a decade later. Many lovely warm Winter game sessions. What a gem 😉
3:00 after seeing this 480p looks like 4k lol
Zwormz: *Throws poop*
Dilophosaur: *UNO REVERSE CARD*
19:00 meshes are actually broken on performance mode right now, only way to fix it is to set them to high. this happens on every card
this is awesome to see, the 470 was in my own first PC build and I've come here just after getting a 4070. Crazy how the times fly.
I love it so much watching those old/er GPUs being benchmarked !!
More or less , about new GPUs we can guess how they will perform , but seeing how these old & legendary GPUs perform today , takes the nostalgia-hype in a whole new level !!!
--P.S. I own a GTX460 and a GTS450 but never owned a GTX470 , so thanks Kryzzp !!
Im impressed for a gpu that old.
i Have my night mare graphics card Gt210 WHat can i do But i complete gta 5 2 times with this
When I saw the notification I thought you were testing the Rx 470🤣🤣🤣
Ahahah it'll come when prices drop!
18:57 nice reflex🔥
Fire videos as always
Thanks 😁
I think I'm addicted to your videos .
This is my way of knowing what day it is
quite surprised how well BF1 is optimized, i remember i tried Open beta with my GTX 770 in 2016 and it could only run medium with 50fps~, surprised that 470 can run it at low 60, that's impressive
its fairly CPU bound i think, I struggle to run it smoothly on a 1660super without suffering a pretty bad case of microstutter due to a weakassed cpu.
Kepler sucks that's why
19:18 its a bug, its for everyone hopefully they will fix it. But untill than its brokenite
This is the gpu I'm actually using, costed me 20 euros in a second hand market, as I was wanting a GTX 1660 and there's no stock
i have 1660 and 1070 with broken cooling system, i hope i will be able to fix it. 1660 i bought in 2019 - before this crisis of the videocards
Today was my birthday and I was hoping that you will upload a video so that I can end my day well
Your videos are so relaxing
There are no graphical incapabilities in the fortnite test.They broke the performence mode after a recent patch update
This Dying Light episode reminds me, how I played Oblivion on AMD 3200+/Radeon X1300 combo. Pretty similar framerates. But I had stamina to finish it.
look at those stickers on the cooler 😂 the old days were really cool
My irl friend just died.
Wanted to watch this to try to forget about it :(
I'm sorry for your loss :(
Stay strong my friend
Thx
I'm sorry for your loss :(.
The trees look like that in fortnite performance mode right now. I'm not sure why
Cool video bro, nice gpu
Thanks mate!
nice to see how your room has been transformed :)
Jack: My 3rd House is Compromised Once again
i didnt expect pubg to get 45 fps on 1080p, wonder how much you could get with a gtx 670. remember when those sold on ebay for about 30 euros!
Since it's newer and have 2Gb VRAM buffer, it should be able to perform as good as a GTX 1050 2Gb imo
@@lombredeshakuras1481 lmao
@@lombredeshakuras1481 Technically it could be even better, but in most titles the driver support and the fact 1050 2gb is a lot newer may tip scales in favor for it. In older titles it's a different story, maybe. However, in the current market likely you'll get a 670 a lot cheaper.
Try next time Crysis 2 not the remastered version just the normal one. It would be interesting how these cards perform on Crysis 2.
Well, the remasters look a little nicer, but also run better too, so the old cards should play them nicely. That's if they don't crash because of architecture or some shit
Here's the old Crysis Warhead absolutely maxed out at 1080p if you're interested, a little laggy at times because of the FRAPS recorder and the antialiasing is maxed out too - ruclips.net/video/TXnAeAaK-mo/видео.html
best one I've seen as always ! thanks for bringing such Great content ! I have been watching you for almost 4 years now and you never disappoint !
I had a GTX 470 from 2012 to 2014 and it was awesome back then.
I know the performance of every single GPU thanks to you😎
Eu estava vendo o Review da GTX 780 então a notificação só apareceu, que coincidência haha
780 ainda é beast para jogos antigos ^^
Obrigado por assistir!
plz tell me rx 560 vs gtx 950 which one is a better choice
560 :)
@@zWORMzGaming thanks i always watch your videos and you taught me a lot of things
kryzzp great video as usual man
Should i buy i3 10105f and GTX 1070
Or i5
10400f and GTX 980ti
finally a review what the reviewer actually have skills that are pleasant to watch in csgo, thx.
Hi zryzzp,can you pls tell me what Is the 1% low in the benchmark? Thx a lot of you raply
Hi!
It's the FPS you get during 1% of the playing time :)
In the simple words, the lowest you can get:).
Rx 550 is an interesting gpu to test, i bileive
Yes, not gonna buy it at 150€ though 😭
i like the testing video like this
Yo 5 mins, loves ur vid
When you gonna do I5 2nd gen and gtx 750 ti? Please been waiting for weeks now
It's brilliant, but would love it if you made more mobile GPU videos (Tho they have trash performance)!
Hello again. I see some of these games run really well so im wondering if you think i could play these games with r9 and athlon II x4 645?
I have this gpu but it artifacts when using tesselation which means i cant play games like battlefront II :(
Rmagwwwddd. I just got a 570! So excited :). Nice video bro. Your enthusiasm speaks for it self
Have fun!! 😁
@@zWORMzGaming Thanks man. Love your vids !!!
Battlefield 1 performance was very impressive. I have a GTX 470 sitting in-front of me, I'm going to build a temporary PC while my Zephyrus G14 is in for repairs hahah
best vid ever
😁
I bought a gts 450 after watching ur video for 45 bucks, thanks man.
Really appreciate it
Have fun!
Is this card still worth it to get?, im currently considering it and a gt 730 gddr 5 one, wich one do you think is better?
definitely the GTX 470
the 470 is better but draws muuuuuuch more power
Gtx 470 is way better
is 450 watt psu enough for the 470?
No comparison, GT 730 is much slower.
Yo whats up. I know this is an off topic question but do you know any fix for Fortnite showing the error "a d3d11 compatible gpu (feature level 11.0, shader model 5.0) is required to run the engine. This happens on GTX 750 Ti and I have tried every fix that I have found on the Internet but nothing worked unless i have skipped any possible working fix. If you can help me it would be much appriciated. Also love the vids and I appriciate you helping people decide what GPU-s to get 😀
@Unknown Nomad yes other games work perfect even if they are still installed from Epic Games (cuz i thought there could have been files corrupted on Epic). And also Fortnite worked great a few months ago but when i recently fixed my PC, only Fortnite doesnt work. If I cant find a solution I will probably send it to be fixed again
Fun Fact: This can be put in SLI with a GTX 560 Ti 448 core version
This is sick brother
hey kryzzp or anyone looking, I'm building a new pc next month and I'm stuck between what rtx card i should get. 2060? 2060 super? A 30 series? A little steer in the right direction would be really helpful. ps love the content, you have gotta be one of my favourite youtubers atm =)
Hey!
Whatever you can find at the most reasonable price, consider GTX 1070 or higher :)
Happy to know that 😁
@@zWORMzGaming cheers man, I appreciate the advice. Keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
This is probably one of the things I won't believe in words.
Where do u buy these GPUs?
I can't even find a gt 710 under 50€ in Italy.
Are you going to cover rx 5500 xt anytime soon??
Kinda strange how the GTX 470 couldn't launch God of War. It's probably driver related to that one, as God of War actually uses Direct X 11. But yeah, I have an EVGA GTX 470 laying around. Tested a while back. it's quite impressive still. At least Metro Exodus is playable on it too.
@Unknown Nomad But even DX11.1 is supported by this GPU. DX11.1 was mainly a software side update anyway. But AFAIk GOW has issues even on newer GTX600 series. It behaves like it's a DX12 game. Weird.
i like the testing video
Hey zWormz do you know how I could fix Fortnite stuttering on my AMD card, Fortnite is just a mess when it comes to performance.
sir i would really appreciate your guidance , my gpu gtx 960 4gb has lost display and now i need to buy something else to play battlefield 1(kinda the only game i play ) and MAYBE bf V if i purchased it somewhere in the future
i have a 900p display and a i5 3570 , i'm asking you because my budget is really low due to my very high study expenses
What gpu should i buy ?
please reply :((
plz test quadro RTX T600 Graphics Card i am planning to buy it but can you plz do a bechmark video on it
Does AMD hd7870 powered by GCN 1.0 support Dying Light 2? I have searched through the internet and can't find one benchmark of GCN 1.0 graphic cards running DL 2.0.
The GPU was not as hot as I expected it to be, maybe it was cold in your area but I'm impressed that it did not melt your PC down xD
Yeah it was pretty cold here :)
Can you test a gtx 1650ti and ryzen 5 4600h laptop?
bro next video of gtx 1060 3gb with same games
Hey, I found a gtx 470 the MSI frostr version. Should I buy it? It’s only $35.
Really liked the conclusion of this video. Yeah any GPU is valuable don't waste any GPU man.
What is about a gt 8600 with ddr3?
At 19:19 . You have to Switch it to high Meshes and Medium Texturen on pm to fix it. On Fortnite to fix the weird tree bug.
hey kryzzp set textures and view distance to lowest in fortnite performance mode gets rid off those blobby on trees
Please get BF 1 test in such gpu videos.
Camp 5900x 💪 lol Mine is paired with a RTX 3070 👍 Great video
I think that using high meshes in Fortnite fixes the trees looking like crap
I have a rx570 and a 580 8gb I just bought them used I need them for a hackintosh how long will they last
Great video as usual ... Keep up the good work😀😃
ayy I'm so early , posted 4 minutes ago , nice
I'm wondering where you get your gpu's, cause I always hear you talking about prices of certain cards, but whenever I look it's at least €50 more expensive
Got it in CEX, not always in stock though, second hand store
@@zWORMzGaming Thank you so much
GG bro 😉
But best budget gaming is with gtx970
Fermi aged like fine wine!
Thanks for reminding me that today is sunday xD
You should include atleast one Assassin creed game.
Plz ZWORMZ
This is really a beautiful card 👏. Love from India 🇮🇳 ♥..
Hey man Love your videos. Can you make a independent csgo optimization video for old gpus. Like what settings to use or is caping fps better for lower input lag.
Hi Kryzppy, I think nvidia needs to become open source their drivers for Linux for old cards like this.
impressive, thanks for sharing this
Is a laptop with a rtx 3050 good for the next 4 years not necessary max graphics but over 60 fps?
I used to have a GTX 460m a long time ago, it worked but it eventually just fried it self because of how hot it kept getting.
Like the motherboard had burn marks around the GPU chip.
It was a Gateway laptop with an upgraded chip.
Do you have a i5-11400f and 3070? If so I wanna ask if you will make a video with those specs, I will greatly appreciate it btw where is your accent from? It sounds awesome!
Hi!
I tested the 3070 with my ryzen 9 5900X, I don't have an i5 but performance shouldn't be far off in most games :)
I'm Portuguese! Thanks ahah
@@zWORMzGaming tysm for responding! I love the content man!
Should I buy the Intel HD 4000 instead?
Do you have any benchmarks for a rx 6700 xt ? Love all your videos man! Very entertaining!
Hi, unfortunately I don't, too expensive for me to buy, wish AMD noticed me and sent me one for review... Or the prices went down!
Thanks :)
Wow the only thing that matters is that it's way better than the gt 710 and btw awesome video kryssp
Please remember to test upcoming Ghostwire Tokyo with GTX 970