History of the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In order to have an understanding of any movement, one needs to have at least a working knowledge of the origins of that movement. In today’s video, we will look at the origins and history of the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement. You will be quite surprised.
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I feel the need to share part of my story about the dangers of the charismatic movement. Forgive me for it being a little long. I was a young woman, new believer, just married and 22 years of age; the year was 1993. I was saved and served Jesus with all my heart. I was attending a church of God denomination at the time. They invited a man to come to revival to speak. Supposedly, he was a self proclaimed, self appointed "exorcist". Now, I was raised pentecostal and had witnessed many disturbing things in different branches of these churches but never to the extent of my experience.
One night, i grew ill during the service; I ran outside to vomit because I was closer to the door than the restroom. The congregation had been worked into a frenzy by this evangelist; it was chaos. The next thing i know im being drug to the front of the church and held forcefully down. I was accused of being possessed by five demons, simply because I was vomiting. Supposedly the demons couldn't stand the power of God and were trying to escape smh. They preceded to physically beat me with Bibles in my face and head, as hard as they could. 6 men in total taking turns hitting me. They almost broke my nose! I was battered and bruised for many, many days after.
One lady literally screamed at me in tongues like a demon from the pit! I remember I was lying on the floor, at the foot of the alter, almost unconscious from the horrible beating i sustained...you know what the supposed exorcist bragged to the congregation? She's knocked out because of five, as he held his hand up, making a fist!! I'll never forget the demonic look on his face.
He commanded the congregation to stand against the walls, so they wouldn't get "possessed" themselves. I was being made a spectacle of. I truly wish I was kidding. It didnt end there. They came to my home and tried to finish what they started. I was supposedly still "possessed". Now, i was just a babe in Christ and believed these people because again, i was just a babe and they were elders, deacons and ministers 😢 looking back, when did Jesus or any apostle ever physically beat a demon possessed person? I understand so much more now.
I was ostracized, ridiculed, run down like a dog in my small town. I wasnt allowed to come back and every church i tried to attend, they followed me and made it to where i was unwelcome, mocked and scorned. I am the epitome of church trauma.
I was devastated to the point of suicide. I truly believed the Holy Spirit had rebuked in anger; that Jesus had forsaken me. There is no worse pain in this life, the utter dispair and hopelessness you feel believing the creator has forsaken you :( I was a hollow shell of a woman; drowning in confusion, pain and despair. Death seemed like a beautiful alternative to the pain my soul was experiencing.
Now, let me tell you about what Jesus did. I worked second shift in the shipping office of an industrial rubber factory; on 2 separate nights, I encountered 2 men. 1, I had never seen come thru the office...he walked in, sat down and stared upon me with love and compassion. He looked at me and I quote. "Stay strong, the Lord has great things in store for you". He then got up, left and I never saw him again; never knowing his name even. Did I entertain an angel unaware? To this day, I still can not wrap my head around it; there is no way he could have known what just happened to me.
Next, an older gentleman came in and we started talking; I explained what had just happened to me......turns out he was a pastor 😊 Thru much counseling and lots of prayer, i finally understood what happened to me wasnt from God but Satan. My husband and I were later baptized by this preacher ❤️
This was not a mere coincidence; I truly believe the Lord sent this man to me and used he and his family to truly teach me about the healing and love of God. I will never forget them as long as I live and how the Lord Jesus loved me enough to send someone to help me thru the darkest days of my life ❤️ make no mistake, my healing from this didn't happen overnight; it was a hard fought battle but I praise Jesus that he was so loving, patient and kind in my shortcomings and trauma. What the devil meant for my harm; God used for my good, for his glory ❤️
Im now 51, still serving the Lord in spirit and truth ❤ the evangelist fell off the map, losing his ministry, that church never recovered; splintering into many other churches that have since failed. I learned later, another woman was done almost the exact same way a few nights earlier :( I left that small town many years ago and have never looked back.
These money driven WOF churches are dangerous! They are not of God and it is NOT the Holy Spirit working thru these "performances." They have turned a house of worship into a den of thieves; taking his name in vain for monetary gain! Cheapened the completed work of the cross and demeaned God to nothing more than a genie in a bottle smh.
For the record, i was in the early stages of what was to be a years long battle to save my life; the beginning stages of cervical cancer. This is why i became so violently ill during service. I was undiagnosed at that time....but I was the farthest thing from being possessed. To the glory of God I'm in full recovery almost 15 years later, having fought my illness from age 22 to age 38. I was a woman who shouldn't have lived, much less able to conceive but here I am, with my beautiful 27 year old daughter! Yes, God is the God of the impossible ❤️
Make no mistake; the attacks upon my life have increased, each attack worse than the first. When the Lord warns us that the enemy seeks to kill, steal and destroy, it's not a joke! I have lost all of my family to death, it's just my daughter and I now. Sadly, I even became a victim later in my life to domestic violence. My journey in this life has been one of abject pain and suffering BUT it is nothing compared to the suffering of Christ on the cross and what he did for us.
Please remember, the enemy doesn't bother with souls he already has. He has come against me and even in this minute, his attacks are endless; trying to stop me from sharing my testimony with everyone. If the enemy is raging against you with the fury of hell; count it all joy....the Lord Jesus counted you worthy to suffer for his names sake. I have often cried out to heaven...Why? Why all the pain? Lord it's just too much for one lone, pathetic sinner of a woman to endure....The answer I received from the Holy Spirit thru the scriptures? Because I entrusted you with it; my grace is sufficient for thee, my strength made perfect in weakness and suffering ❤️ If just one soul can be helped and saved thru the suffering then yes, it is worth every tear and ounce of pain 💖
The Lord Jesus is with us thru it all. He has truly given me a peace that passes all understanding. When you repent & choose Christ, you are enemy #1 now, a huge target on your back. Just know, no matter what you are enduring, keep going, never give up. Christ didn't lay the cross down on his way to Golgotha; we can't lay ours down for his names sake either. Be encouraged, be strong and know you are never alone; he will never leave nor forsake us.
PLEASE BEWARE OF THESE WOLVES THAT SMILE IN YOUR FACE WHILE DRAGGING YOU TO THE PIT! I have witnessed firsthand what lurks beneath that "smile". Always pray for discernment. Remember, we can't be the spotless bride of Christ and Satan's girlfriend at the same time. Stand for the truth of the gospel even if you're standing alone....always contend for the faith.
There's no devil on Earth or from hell that can defeat you. Remember, the greater and longer the trial; the greater the blessing and the greater movement of Jesus to show our enemy that our God is God! When you're going through hell itself, don't stop...keep going; glory awaits on the other side...when the reason we are standing, stands in front of us, we will know it's worth it all ❤️ Thank you for your amazing grace Lord Jesus ❣️
So good to hear stories like yours that testify to the goodness of God’s deliverance and faithfulness even when humans can let us down.
Keep on keeping on Sis!
I’m glad you got out of that kind of Church. But you would be crazy to say they all are bad because of your bad experience though. I know personal stories of true real miraculous testimonies of people receiving Jesus Christ, or demons leaving their bodies and be 100% delivered. Sure there are abuses out there, but there are also real authentic Christians as well.
The spirit of Religion is a murderer . I have seen this over and over where churches lay religion over people in a deadly mechanical way and have an absence of God's love in opperation . It is truly disgusting to hear such things . Be very careful when attending a church because the believers tend to become like their pastor. If there is any hint of Narcissism , flee from that place immediately. You don't want to become a Tale bearer or a Gossip or slanderor .
@@geetachrisan8927 ty so much.....God bless and be with you always
@@savedbyhismercy711 The best place to be is in a deep personel relationship with God and it won't leave much room for religion to creep in and ruin things for you .
I got prayed over the night before I started my treatment for Hepatitis C that next day the DR. Stopped my treatment because I didn’t have hepC! It disappeared! My Dr ended up getting saved and is still serving God. 23 years ago! Praise the Lord!
I am surprised that you haven't been told that your Hep. C was misdiagnosed and that is why it disappeared. Or, here is another one of their explanations. Oh, you weren't healed because God doesn't heal through the prayer of faith anymore. Those healing gifts are no longer for today.
God still heals when it's in His will. I've seen it. And He can do it in different ways. A family member had Hep C (from blood given in NIC unit decades ago) - and God gave her the 88,000 dollars in meds from the pharm company for the new medicine that healed her.
@@louisaccardi2268God never changes and you don't realize that he doesn't take back his gifts to his church ." The Gifts and the callings are without Repentance "
Praise God for the healing. So, @ Justin Peters, the spiritual gifts have not ceased in operation today. Amen.
@@Gsus7732 Fear , Doubt an unbelief have no place in our churches . Everything we do for God should be done by Faith . I have seen far too many prayers answered when people have nothing left but their prayers of Faith . People like this man are not living by Faith and I question if they really have a deep personal relationship with God or just have head knowledge salvation ?
My mother was healed miraculously of heart mitral valve issue. Was on meds for decade and healed. No more fainting or rhythmic flutters. God heals. That was 35 yrs ago.
35 years ago medical technology was not the same. As a Christian I believe God can do miracles. I also know as a person who was discovered to have had a congenital heart valve defect (BAV) that caused a very large ascending aortic aneurysm that open heart surgery saved my life . My PCP is Christian, the first cardiovascular surgeon I was referred to is a Christian and the very specialized heart surgeon who did my 9 hour ohs is a Christian who prayed with me before surgery. He believes his hands and skills are God given and he is not arrogant. I see The Lord in every step of my medical journey, two years ago. I had an accurate diagnosis and CTA scans and echos confirmed it. My congregation and other Christian friends prayed for me. God created man and gifted him with certain skills. Sometimes “miraculously healed” is a misdiagnosis in the first place.
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@@suzziezhills Very bravely and well spoken. Finally someone who understands how God uses people to get the job done, as well as occasionally doing a direct miracle. Jesus did miracles to prove who he was: The Messiah. Now we no longer need such proof. It is written down. Blessed are those that have NOT seen, and yet believe. God is in the medicine that we occasionally take to help us. It's just another way to help "heal" us. The bible tells us that when Jesus, "healed them all" that the Greek word for "Healed", is our word, Therapy. It wasn't "miracles". I pray that you are doing well. May God keep you among us, so that others may learn.
All Cessationists believe that miracles occur today. God is sovereign
His will WILL be done. It is just there is no one with these gifts today.
There are many other gifts of the Spirit in operation today
@@toolegittoquit_001 Was your comment, a reply to me? It wound up in my notification box. There are 13 church gifts once you remove the sign gifts and the ones for delivering God's word, called, THE WORD of Knowledge, and THE WORD of prophecy. God's word HAS BEEN delivered. It's the bible. Making up a category for something that no longer exists, seems a bit funny. I believe the sign gifts are clearly gone and the reason for them, are completely gone. Therefore I don't refer to myself as a "cessationist". I simply know what the bible says about gifts. The church gifts are for SERVING ONE ANOTHER. The sign gifts did no such thing. This is why the Apostles had the sign gifts and not us. Thanks for your comment.
I am so incredibly grateful that I have been delivered out of the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement! I am saddened and I have fully repented for the stupid things I believed and I am now studying the word vigilantly in line by line and I'm looking for a church where I can go in here expository teaching. Mr. Peters thanks to you and others on YT for bringing the truth about what this is all about to light! 💯 ✌️
I escaped from John Wimbers Vineyard in 1995...ten years of my life gone and ruined for the his lifetime... Literally my life was like Rosemary's Baby...
The Pentecostal church I grew up in created PTSD since 1960. Fear was the motivation. The third work of grace was proof of salvation. They never had any doctrine. It was and still is debilitating physically, emotionally, and spiritually! It is the Grace of God that continues to heal my brokenness!
I'm Pentecostal. Never heard of 3rd work of grace. Mainline Pentecostals preach you must be born again and that you are saved by grace through faith alone. Nothing else. That's always been our message. Straight, Reformational, protestant teaching. You must have belonged to a rogue group. Sorry to hear.
I was raised the same way but my mom ( my dad died when i was 11) left it for plain ole charismatic ( lesser of two evils). The Lord was always first inspite of it all. I know what you are saying. That is how most penticostals were back then. It was hard growing up like that. TV was a sin as well as bangs, short hair on females, no pants on females yet the pastor raped my sister ( that was ok). The Lord has been faithful to us and kept us through it all. My sister did suffer greatly but God kept her through it all!!
I remember when you and a couple of couples to expose these money grubbers. Pastor Justin , you are a warrior and man of God. The original so to speak. God bless you sir
He exposes a lot of nonsense, but is also a heretic that's almost as bad as they are. He teaches false things and lies all of the time that no one in the Church taught for at least the first 1000 years of Christianity. A Mormon or a cult leader will often be right when they criticize frauds in Christianity, but that doesn't make them good or indicate that they're an actual part of real Christianity.
I had warts on my feet since I was 9. I felt ashamed to let anyone see my feet and when I was in my twenties I knew I needed to take time and have them removed. I could count 20 of them it was so bad. One night, while I was in worship before Jesus in my heart, I felt a strong presence. When I went home, and per my routine, I scrubbed my feet diligently in the shower. To my awe, I had no more worts. When I was healed from this 20 year simple, but off putting issue, I cried and thanked Jesus for this gift. See, I never even asked for this healing, but in one night was free of these warts.
When I asked God why He was so kind to me, He said the following..."You've always been welcome in My home, but you never let me was your feet. Thank you for letting me wash your feet."
God is a healing Father and Savior. Trying to point human failure doesn't necessarily discredit God's healing nature in the modern era.
You are presumptuous and clearly whackerdoodle repent and stop lying. You did not hear from God he only communicates through his Word the Bible. He can communicate but you think your something special and he communicated with you supposedly because of your shodden feet that no one sees healed of worts? mm hmm?
Jesus Christ is my saviour and healer. He can heal miraculously immediately or more slowly with divine healing
Again, people claiming God speaks personally. I will not call such a person a liar but it begs the question “how have YOU become so anointed?”. Please share for we ordinary sinners?
@@Katya-zj7niWOW. This fellow christian was just sharing a testimony and giving God the glory for it. How did you come to the conclusion that they are somehow more anointed? All Born again Christians have the Holy Spirit residing within them and yet there are still Christians who believe He doesn't speak to the believer whom he resides in?
Praise God for His healing of you!! Make no mistake though, Justin never says God doesn’t heal today. What he is talking about is “faith healers”…they are NOT of God.
Charismatics and soft progressive Christians everywhere are offended. Keep up the honest, biblical work of the spirit. God bless.
Missed your bible reading this morning. I work hard, nice to have you read to me in the morning. Looking forward to this video.
Gods blessings.
Hi Cindy, I really missed it also! I thought something bad might have happened, 😊
@@jillachen7217 Yes! I asked God to let him pull through if something bad HAD happened. I've been listening since Justin started the readings, and I have a routine I follow with my religious studies every morning; without Justin's reading, I just didn't feel right.
Justin's Bible reading is a Blessing - His voice is a natural for doing just that. God Bless.
@@aquafishes yes it is. A very calming voice reading the most precious words ever written.
I think he's got a number of them uploaded already and scheduled to post each morning. But the scheduling probably got mixed up somewhere and that's why today was missed. So I'm sure the recording is technically there, but just hasn't been made public yet. Hopefully someone can let him know and he can fix that so we're back on track. It's a wonderful blessing to have these daily readings.
I was raised in the A/G all my life. I am now 68 years old. Off and on I have been uncomfortable with things that go on in “the church” but felt condemned when I questioned it. I once told a sister that I was sick and the common response is “don’t let that come out of your mouth, repent”. I have been confused about so many things. Over the last year I’ve had opportunity to listen to RC Sproul and the others associated with Ligonier Ministries and have felt like for the first time in my life I am hearing the truth. It’s been hard, the transition is not easy because so many of the teachings are deep rooted in me. I am looking forward to sharing my new journey with my friends and family. I’m afraid I may lose some but I am ok with that (I hope). Now to find a place to worship is a big problem in a little town. Thank God for RUclips. Thank you Justin Peters.
God bless you, Sister.
If you believed this CNN version, it shows you did nothing in all your years in the AOG. You would know this version is a hit-job attempt to scandalize the whole Pentecostal movement and a combination of omitting key facts, only looking for the bad things but not recognizing the good, missing out key people involved (never mentioned) and so many half-truths.
If you don't know your history.... then shame on you.
So you gonna go and join Sproul and Peters now? Did they tell you about Calvins history and the part he played in the burning alive of Michael Servetus??? Burnt him alive at the stake because Servetus had false doctrine. Oh hold on..... Calvin did try to get a better execution of chopping the head off so its faster.
I have a very similar story, I am 63 and grew up in AG and in 2006 started questioning their Doctrine in line of
The Bible. In 2013 started doing research on early first century Christianity to the present, all the same discovery's
that Justin has presented.
@@ronaldtentschert6876 Spiritual gifts were still circulating in the early church for a couple of hundred years.
And the problem for Cessationists who claim the gifts disappeared with the apostles is:
Firstly, that's not historically Correct. Miracles were still happening throughout church history and protestants and roman catholics will both affirm this.
Secondly, the verse about "tongues will cease" has to do with the last days. Well, it's 2023 baby, and we are still waiting. So that was wrong.
Thirdly, and the most important argument, is that the Roman Catholic church has not deemed the gifts or speaking in tongues false. In fact, they even cautiously encourage it. That's a big problem for Cessationists who want to argue that Montanism was declared heresy in the early church. If there was any church group who would be the most aggressive towards false "montanist" doctrine contaminating their church it would be the RCC. And yet, the RCC see the current move of the spiritual gifts (which they call charisms) as a positive force in the church today and not the same as the Montanist argument.
Currently completing my masters in theology in the early church fathers in a Catholic university and am Pentecostal. Justin is way off so I doubt your research.
Buy hey, if you want Calvinism (like Justin) - which is a theology and philosophy that looks nothing like the early church - eat your heart out. Calvinism couldn't be the most far removed denomination from the early church than any other group.
And you know the big mistake us Pentecostals made? We got into bed with the evangelicals for respectability. Pentecostal scholars are calling for a "u-turn" to head back to our Anglican/Catholic/Methodist roots which actually would fit Pentecostalism better. I agree!
Say no to Calvinism.
@@ntlearning I would rather have truth than to be propped up on lies like some sacrificial effigy to be burned.
Despite what the Word of Faith movement proponents have promised you, you *_do not_* have the power or the authority to decree or declare anything. That is up to God and His divine sovereignty. You *_do not_* have the power to put words in God's mouth. You do *_not_* have the power or the right to manipulate God and hold him at ransom until He gives you what you want. You do not have the right to demand anything of God just because you gave money to some cult charlatan's ministry. You also do not have the power to curse anything. That, too, is only something that God does.
*_Just in case you have never heard the real Gospel message, let me share it with you briefly:_*
You are a wretched sinner who deserves the full force of God's eternal wrath for sinning against Him and against His creation. If you have not been converted/regenerated/saved by the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit, then you are under God's curse, and His wrathful eye is glaring down upon you without relent. The *_only_* chance you have for salvation from God's righteous wrath and to appease Him is in Christ alone, and to completely give up sovereignty over your own life and any delusions you may have of making yourself righteous before God, and to plead with God to have mercy on you and save your soul.
This is not about repeating a few lines of someone else's prayer or "asking Jesus into your heart". This is not about Calvinism or Arminianism. You have a sin debt to a holy God the size of eternity and you do not have the ability to even make a dent in it, and no man-made religion can do anything about it.
You have no righteousness in you, so in Jesus' name, *_plead_* with God to give you a heart of flesh so that you may truly repent, and ask that the Holy Spirit would renew and regenerate your soul. Ask that God would impute the righteousness of Christ to you, and for Him to impute your sin upon Himself.
I'm of No Set Congratulation! I only Obey and Follow Our LORD Jesus Christ! This is Why I Wake Up every Day Praising and Thanking Him for is Great Love and Mercy!
Im the first born son of a pastor from North Carolina. I grew up in church all my life till my daddy passed. I played the drums in chrch for about 30 years. My daddy taught me that it doesn't matter what is written over the door of the church or what the neon sign says at the road. What matters is whats in your heart.
Proverbs say that every way of man is right in his own eyes but the lord ponders the heart. I was at home alone 25 years ago i was praying n just talking to the lord. I said lord this religion says read this that religion says read that. This group says say this that group says say that and so on and so on. I asked lord what r the people to believe. I felt to get the Bible i just layed it on the back of the couch it randomly fell open. Out of all the pages scripture and words written. When i looked down the first thing my eyes read was. When you seek for me with all your heart then i will be found.😮
@chucklee347. I understand what you mean by what is written over the door, but the fact is, that it does matter. It's a WARNING sign to all those who enter. God is NOT a denomination and neither am I. Denominations are what separate people. They don't rightly divide the word. It's always slanted their way, and not the way God meant. That takes, long hard studying. Denominations do not seek after God. They seek verses to try and support their views. Seek first the kingdom of God.....Jesus NEVER sought after the testimony of men because he knew what was in MAN. It's the sin nature. That is why the holy spirit was the one to give testimony to Jesus. It is the bible. Revelation 19:10. The purpose, or spirit of, prophecy is the testimony of Jesus. It's the bible. NO MORE PROPHETS. NO MORE APOSTLES. NO MORE SIGN GIFTS that confirmed the word of God. It HAS been confirmed. It's the bible. Charismatics are leading people down the wrong road and will be held accountable. I played drums for a church too, until I found out that the pastor believed you could lose your salvation. THAT is heresy. I never looked back. happy reading.
@@JerryPotter. Yeah you're correct I believe that also. There is no religion it's a relationship with God. The only way and one truth. Sure just man in general will have different views and different opinions over certain topics that's just human nature. But the overall picture is the same. And hey I'm just curious. About your last statement about losing salvation. I'm not sure of that but to me reading many different passages in old testament especially speaks of God turning away those that kept commiting sins and not repenting of their sin. So I've never believed once saved always saved that makes no sense for someone to get saved then afterwards return to their old ways. That's exactly what the scripture s talked about when it said a dog returns to his vomit. And many other scriptures that let us know that does not work. God let the people know many times return to me and repent and I will heal your land. So to me apparently we can walk away and so to speak lose salvation that Christ died for l. I'm curious who you view that if you don't mind me asking.
@@chucklee347 Hi thanks for the reply. I encourage any response. So let's get to it. What I said was, that pastor said as a sermon, that you could lose your salvation. I got the .... out of there. That is heresy. The difference between the old and new testament is the fact that the holy spirit NEVER stayed with anyone in the old. Jesus told his disciples that when the spirit comes, he will be WITH you AND IN you FOREVER. The dog returning to his vomit is about an UN believer; not a believer. It goes along with Hebrews 6. The whole point is that the same power that it took to save you, is the same power that keeps you saved. Those that go constantly back to their old ways are showing that they have never been saved in the first place. A change of mind and of lifestyle is the evidence of the spirit. Also, No man has the mind of God, unless he has the spirit of God. The natural man can not know the things of God. Therefore, you can find out if someone is a believer by what he says about God and scripture. There are millions of people who claim to be christians, but are not. The denomination gets in the way. So for the doctrine of "once saved, always saved" is Absolute truth because it is God who does the saving. Man does not cry out to God. We were all Born in sin. We are spiritually DEAD. A dead person can not cry out to God. He's DEAD. Either a person's name is in the Lamb's book of Life, or he's not. The power of the cross is sufficient to save all people but it is only applied to you when you get saved. God makes one vessel unto Mercy and one unto WRATH. He is the Potter; we are the clay. Does not the Potter have the right over the clay to make it as he wishes? You MUST understand what happened in the Garden of Eden. When ADAM fell into sin, We ALL DID. The name ADAM means, MANKIND. He represents all of mankind. What spiritually happened to him, came to all of us. Therefore at that point, Everyone was going to hell. Sin must be judged. God did it. Therefore God must choose by his own election, who will get saved. If he didn't choose, then no one would be saved. Therefore, Once saved, always saved. We are sealed by the holy spirit. You can't get, UN sealed. Where sin abounds, GRACE does much more abound. We all have the sin nature in us. We WILL sin from time to time. This is why we have an advocate with the father for our sins. It's Jesus, the righteous. The words "FALLEN from Grace" refers to unbelievers. They reject everything they have seen and heard, from other people and scripture. They have been told what sacrifice to bring to God, and they reject it. The Hebrew phrase, "Sinning willfully " means to bring the wrong type of sacrifice. It does NOT mean that you choose to sin because you want to. The sin nature already sins against God before anyone has ever heard about God. You were BORN in sin. So take heart if you ever felt that you could lose your salvation. As long as you have it, you can't lose it. It's a promise from God.
@@JerryPotter. I'm still reading your response. I'm not disputing I'm trying to understand where you are coming from. But some of the last few scriptures is he that takes away from the words of the prophecy written in this book his name shall be taking out of the lambs book of life. Ok I'll continue reading.
@@JerryPotter. Ok I'm finished reading it. Well if that's how you feel carry on. But I can't look at it like that. Jesus said in end time there will be some that come to him saying Lord haven't we healed the sick in your name Lord haven't we cast out devil's in your name. And in your name haven't we done mighty works. I don't know what you have seen in your life but to do these things you would absolutely have to be a believer and a follower as Christ said to do these things. And Jesus said he would tell them depart from me ye that work iniquity for I never knew you. Some might say well Jesus said I never knew you. But how many sinners or unbelievers has anyone ever seen to cast out devil's or heal sick people they wouldn't they don't believe it. So they were saved at one point but somewhere somehow walked away. And Jesus said it is better to have never known than to have known and walk away. Right now I'm sitting on the steps in Myrtle Beach looking at the ocean at texting you. Just got off work and I'm not concentrating that great now. But there's many more things that tell me. We can walk away from the great things the Lord wants to give us. As long as you're not out there living like a sinner on Saturday night I don't think believing or not believing once saved always saved will send anyone to heaven or hell. But what I know is that has to carefully be discussed a lot of could easily take that and run with it. Thinking they can get saved then turn around and live anyway they want to and they'll be ok. I agree someone doing that didn't get the real thing to start with. But tell them that. Good luck to you and God bless you. I want to add a reply that. I believe When Jesus said depart from me for I never knew you he meant like when you come to Christ salvation all the bad we have done is to never be reminded again. That's a promise. And because those fell Christ said he would say I never knew you none of the good they had done would be remembered again.
I watched the entire video. I can’t say for myself I agree with parts. However there are many false teachers everywhere. I encourage everyone to read the Bible and study God’s word closely. Aligning one’s self with any movement that distorts God’s words run away fast!
I happen to believe in miracles and speaking in tongues. And what that is as Paul wrote is a private spirit prayer ( paraphrasing) it is not gibberish, mine is not it has expressed in a way that has structure and words I can not pronounce otherwise. I believe in the triune God Father, Son , Holy Spirit. I have been saved and made a new person in Christ. God took me out of a degenerate world and self. My life belongs to God and I will not accept any other.
Thank God for your comment. God bless you
Maybe you should read more. Because the bible says something doesn't means it's something you should be doing now. If you didn't go to school for this please be quiet and listen more
See you say you speak in tongues. Even if you said the Holy Spirit speaks in tongues through and you don't know what you're saying isn't that the definition of babbling?
You said you can speak in tongues and it’s not gibberish. Please write it down so we know whether it’s gibberish or not.
@@rickcampanella4254
I have spoken in tongues for over to years. Often a word or words perk my interest do I look the up. Almost every time, they are real words, in real languages and match with what my heart was praying. No, I don't speak in tongues in public or at church but more privately or if I am praying for someone. Folks, plz be careful that you are not calling something that is the H.S. is of the devil! Does he know that Paul said that he was grateful that he spoke in tongues more than the rest of them? Jesus said that those who believe and are baptized will speak in other tongues!! Look it up. Did Jesus lie?!?!
Here's another supernatural verse spoken by Jesus. Did He lie?!
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall SPEAK with NEW TONGUES; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover".
Sounds pretty supernatural to me! 😮
Finally took the time to watch the vid. Kudos! Enjoyed it. I'm 55 now, raised IFB with hellfire and brimstone as my backdrop. Early 20s I stepped into a southern baptist church that added some charismatic bent. My previous wife passed away in 2018 and, for me, it was a turning point. To make a long story short, I am grateful for the good and the bad and learning to let go of beliefs that have no place in the Christian life I live now. I appreciate your work in the Lord and may you continue to be blessed.
If Justin is your pastor you are in huge trouble spiritually
I DON'T THINK THAT JUSTIN IS ANYBODY'S PASTOR...HE IS JUST A TEACHER. @@J_a_s_o_n
I found this “enlightened” presentation condemning of fellow Christians who are born again. I think some of the behaviors and declarations were off the rails. Judging, condemning and sarcastically being demeaning is just as shameful.
Love others as yourself? It was fascinating information I am saddened that a Christian points fingers at their transgressions and feels justified. Slandering others is addressed clearly in the Word. I respectfully ask that someone help you get the log out of your own eye. I know I fall short of the glory of God. I’m thankful we have both been born again. I hope you receive a healing of self righteousness.
I was gay for 30+ years, was on drugs, a prior exotic dancer, and was a witch - until God came to me and delivered me. It wasn’t a “good” or righteous history but God is using us because the many of us are the only ones who can reach “people” like who we used to be as to build the kingdom. People who have been in such darkness can and do really come to the most light! God saw the purity in my heart; my upbringing. Only God knows all!
I couldn’t more!!! Who better than to witness to the gay community than someone who lived it and came out of it by Gods Grace!!! I wasn’t able to make a dent when I was working in Beverly Hills as a Hairstylist, I tried and didn’t it in the most loving gracious way I could by using a Creation/Intelligent Design evangelism approach but it still fell on deaf ears. I’m Grateful for your testimony and it’s people like you who can make inroad’s in ways that others can’t. Not that God can’t use anyone but it stands to reason that this community will give ear to someone who had as long of a history in this community as you did. Praise God for that! 🙏♥️
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I agree with your words.
The good Lord knows His own, He will not loose one !
It's not about you. It's about Jesus. Learn how to study the Bible and let the word of God read you!. Only a wicked generation asks for a sign. Get biblically sound. Put your trust in his word, not in man. We are in the great falling away. Be careful then how you listen.
I thank God so much for this; i came out of the Pentecostal movement, the turning point for me was hearing and seeing the "Strange Fire" teaching conference. It answered so many of the things I had questioned about this movement. I am happy to say that we left the movement, and have been growing in the true knowledge of God, and faith in Christ daily. Thanks to all the presenters; the truth of the true Gospel will certainly set you free. Forever grateful to God for people like you for what you do tirelessly everyday.
@MsLionofJuda: Smiles. you need an H on the end of your moniker. I'm so glad to hear you got out of Pentecostalism. I've been teaching for 36 years. If there is anything you want to know or ask about gifts and how to protect yourself against false teachers and teaching, then let me know God is not a denomination and neither am I. I use the original languages to explain things to people like you, so as to make it easier to understand what God is saying. God had a very strict purpose for what he was doing in the new testament. There is one major verse that defeats all charismatics and their theology. God bless and I hope to hear from you. happy reading.
@@JerryPotter. Why don't you start your own channel instead of trying to recruit people through other people's channels? Nobody in their right mind will take you up on that because they don't even know you. What's your angle anyway?
@@graftme3168 I'm not trying to recruit anyone. They need to follow the bible closer and many don't follow the bible at all. The ones that have a humble heart and want to know, will ask me questions. People like you just want to make false statements, and to those people, I call out because they do harm to others. The fact that you think there is an "ANGLE" shows me what kind of an attitude you have. Pathetic. You haven't been able to answer one thing that I have given you from scripture. THAT says a lot about you and your study habits. There are none. Instead of Learning from what I said, you just pass it by and don't care about scripture. WHY DO YOU MAKE COMMENTS? Doesn't that mean that you are trying to change someone's mind on something? HYPOCRITE. People who make videos, rarely talk to other people's comments. They are too busy. So I step in to teach them what they need to know or have questions on. Your statement never showed up in my "notification box'. I simply found it while reading other comments. You would be amazed as to how many people have turned to me for answers because of their problems in scripture. That is what a teacher does. He explains things in context and content, and proper application of scripture. It's Bible facts, and not personal opinions or interpretation. It is Translation with explanation. And that is something that you do not know how to do. ALL of the church gifts are for SERVING ONE ANOTHER. Since you do not know what your gift is, IF you are a true believer, then you can't serve anyone. You just talk. And how could you know what your gift is, when you don't know what the gifts are? You seem to talk to only the ones that agree with you, so you can pat each other on the back. You serve no one. Making comments, is not proof of scripture.
Are you a Calvinist now?
Have you ever heard of the Church of God??? Are they decent and honest??? They tend to manipulate people it seems and it just doesn't feel right.
I saw some legit healing in our Assembly of God church in the 70s. My dad was one of them. That does not excuse the wolves that mingled with pentecostals. I do love Justin's humility and boldness. These are things Fullgospel peoples must consider.
In fact, you should use Roberts Liardon's lifestyle as a further example of gross immorality.
Exactly 💯
God does do miracles. Clearly not through the prosperity gospel though lol.
Justin, I’ve been following your work for about 4 years. God saved me out of false conversion thanks to American Gospel and the teaching ministry of John MacArthur and others of the same fold. I grew up Pentecostal and went to a NAR-aligned Bible College, similar to Bethel. After graduating, I went on to live a wicked life (all while professing to be “born again”) until God truly saved me in ~2019. I have spent the last 4 years voraciously reading my Bible, watching sound teaching and learning about false teaching of all kinds. Because of my background, refuting NAR / hyper charismania is close to my heart. My extended family is still caught up in all the lies and I’m praying for them come out. All that to say THANK YOU for this video and so many others that have helped me to discern truth from error and walk in the Light. Praise God from Whom all blessings flow.
Last night, I was scratching my head about this topic and by God through through JP we get this blessing the next morning!
I only know it was via the charismatic movement that Jesus became real to me and a desire to yield to His Spirit became a priority for me.
This video is Reform doctrine.
Reformistst don't believe in signs and wonders to include miracles. They search the scripture for everything but that which is the signature of God.
I've personally seen the dead coming back to life, people on their death bed making a full recovery, tumors passing and being flushed down the toilet, aids disappearing, after the prayer of faith and the laying on of hands, etc, etc. Not to mention, I speak in tongues daily. This Flys in the face of the doctrine of reformist aka sadduccess. They reject spirituality because they can't control it, intellectually descibe it, comprehend it, or control who God does it through.
Keep believing.
I want to express a comment. I was raised a Baptist, but was i vited to a United Penecostal Church while junior high. I noticed when they worshipef that they seemed to really feel something when they sang to God. I loved the service so much that I went back to visit when I got in College. I later got a Bible study On Repentance, True Baptistism, and the Holy Ghost. I prayed to God that if I needed to do this to give it to me. I went to the altar twice, seeking the Holy Ghost. First time I prayed that if this Church preaches the yruth, then let me experience the Holy Ghost enough to fall out in the spirit. I went to the altar, repented and the Holy Ghost fell on me like a bright light, with his pose all over me.
It was so strong that I could no longer stand, I fell out in the spirit, this confirmed that this Church Preaches the Truth. I was baptized by immersion in Jesus name, and the following week I went to the altar again and prayed if I have to have the Holy Ghost, then give it to me. I fell out in the spirit, and prayed for the Holy Ghost with people praying with me. I felt the power of God all over my tongue. I thrn prayed to God yo let me speak in tongues if it was necessary for salvation. Then my tongue moved to a different place in my mouth
as words that I had never spoken before came out if my mouth. I still speak in tongues today. I do not believe we are the same as the Charismatic movement. Our belief started on the day of Pentecost. If you will study Church History you will see that God gave this to all of the disciples, but it was lost during dark ages. But God brought pieces of truth back to the church ad a whole through one or two truths, starting with the Prodesent Movement. God showed one denomination, to get politics out of the Church, another to baptise by immersion, another to live holy, then at Azuza Street, God brought people from different denominations and God restored what was lost during dark ages back to the Church. The Pentecostal Churches. Yes there are two kinds. We were trinity, but God revealed to some of them to go back to their churches and rebaptize their people in Jesus name. You will not find an example of anyone that was baptized in titles Father, Son, Holy Ghost. God is our Father in Creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Ghost, our Comforter and power to live right, and giver of the fruits and gifts of God. There are counterfeits to all things that are true. We have had charasmstics that come yo our churches that tell that they were taught to speak in tongues, and many if them do not believe that it is necessary to change from living a sinful life. We are not to judge people, but we can judge their fruits. If they do not have the fruits of the spirit, you can question whether they are true or false.
Protestant not prodestant
you are "religious, but LOST"; you be prayed for, amen.....
I've never ever heard of any promotion of speaking in tongues with the Mormon church and I was a member for 60 years. However I was finally called into God's fellowship 8 years ago and out of the deceit of that religion. It's definitely a cult and I was completely blind to it all. Praise God for His guidance out and into His truth. ✝️❤☝️
Yeah, Mormons are really in a cult...My former boss was a Mormon and she told me some weird stuff that they believed.......
I have dear friends in Mormonism. You have any advice about how to help them?
There's a lot of things in the Mormon church that you'll never hear about until you get into it
@Kay Johnson..dear sister quite a thing to be deceived for 60 years but as they say..better late than never! And to add that satan master of deception and confusion invented denominational ism and world religions. Christ The Only Founder of the church..not any man woman or satan himself. Hope you didn't fall out of the frying pan into the fire of false churches which are everywhere. Christ Alone is to be followed! ..blessings and joy continue increasing unto you and yours in Christ Name Amen. Peace ✌
@@76monikaW..I have read your comment of having so-called dear friends in Mormons and yes I have some friendly advise..satan master of deception and confusion invented denominational ism and world religions. Come out of them and be not partakers of their false doctrines deception confusion and dullusions as so-called christians continually fooling each other with false hope living in Fairyland and fantasies. Christ the Only Founder of the church..no man woman or satan himself. Christ Alone is to be followed!... blessings and joy continue increasing unto you and yours in Christ Name Amen. Peace ✌
I was born in the catholic religion. But in 1961 didn’t know God was calling me out of a world of Sin into a glorious life with Him. So I started going to a Lutheran church and was in church Al the time sang in the choir went to Bible study every week. But was still lost spiritually. As time went on I wasnt getting what I was suppose to get so in 1975 I was invited to a college auditorium to hear these two gospel brothers minister in music. And a salvation message. When it came time to go forward to give my life to Jesus I stood up and started walking forward toward the stage. I felt a power like I’ve never felt before get me out if my seat. I wanted to run but I couldn’t. I knelt down by this chair and just asked the Father to forgive every sin I’ve ever committed. It felt like 50 lbs of weight come off of me and knew something supernatural had happened. At this time I didn’t really know the word of God. Never heard of being Born Again or Saved. I started going to this church and before that I was baptized in complete immersion. When I came up out if the water I was shaking all over and speaking in this unknown tongue. I never knew anything about the Baptism of the Holy Ghost or the 9 gifts of the Spirit. The reason I’m writing this is because I want Justine Peters to know that the Baptism of the Holy Ghost was not just for the early Christians back 2000 yrs ago. But my Bible tells me that God is no respector of persons. And he needs to read and reread the book of Acts. And pray God shows him that it was for them and for their children and to them that are afar off meaning us today. Jesus told them to go to the Upper Room and wait for the promise of the Father. That He knew He was going back to the Father and that the church would be equipped with power over Satan and his demons. All those back them were getting baptized in the Holy Ghost some even before they got saved.
Now almost 49 yrs of walking with the Master evangelizing in many cities seeing many demonic things I can atest that I’ve seen His power manifested when on one summer day I was out with my friend soul winning. This took place in Sacramento Calif. as I was standing at this location this man unbeknown to me came up to me and pulled the tracts out of my hands and he stuck his finger in my face. The Holy Ghost took over. I said to this demon in this man in the name of Jesus Satan I command you to get your finger out of my face and immediately his right arm began to shake as he started to put it behind his back and he said what’s all this binding stuff. Cus I said to him before this I bind you Satan in Jesus name. God showed not only him Gods power but showed me also. Now mind you I’ve only been saved about 6 yrs.
What took place. Without this power He has given His church we would have let the enemy take full control of us. The name of Jesus is the most powerful weapon we have and most believers don’t know how to do spiritual warfare. Now I’m 88 yrs old. And I know my relationship with God is solid and I don’t make this stuff up. Cus I know I will have to give an acct for everything I do and say. I also know that many In denominations don’t know the book of Acts and don’t believe it’s for our day. Well the devil is just as powerful today as he was back then. Apostle Paul said I speak in tongues more than you all. When a person speaks in tongues it’s a perfect prayer. It bypasses your intellectual mind as you don’t have to think of what to pray cus it’s the Holy Spirit praying thru you. And Satan can’t interpret your prayer. I could be praying for someone in the body of Christ that needs prayer and the Holy Spirit knows better than I do.
Jesus said out if your belly shall flow living waters. I could tell you more of my experiences on the streets but I can’t list them all here. But I’ve seen his power now many times with different people. Yes some believers misuse the gifts of the spirit. I’ve prayed for the sick. I’ve had word of knowledge told to me and it all came true. So it bothers me that Christians are so defeated and so lukewarm today. Even president Trump told the Christians you have no idea how much power you gave. Not to boast cus we have to stay humble and give all the glory and credit to God. Of ourselves we can do nothing. But Justin is turning Christians against the book of Acts. Cus we believers are still writing the book of Acts. I don’t go along with these prosperity preachers. But i just pray for them. If we believers know the Bible God will show us what’s going on among the church. He will give us discernment. That’s what the Holy Ghost does leads us into all truth. Amen.
Thank you so much for sharing. I think your testimony is a perfect example of why we shouldnt throw the baby out with the water! Yes, many people abuse in this issue. Yet I do not see in Scripture anything that says those gifts have stopped.
I'll take any examples of the gifts from church history
you do know justin peters was once a believer in sings and wonders, right?
@@dulcelopez5454nowhere in the OT tells you that prophecy will stop, yet for 400 years before Christ God was silent so you do not need to be told in Scripture something will cease in order for it to do. Also you actually do have it in 1 Corinthians 13:8. You throw the baby with the water because it is not a baby but a very large bug. The thing in itself started with heretics. You do not have orthodox teachers to promote this kind of stuff in history. The only reason that now there are continuationists who are true believers and not completely heterodox is because they watered it down. They are now orthodox pentecostals because they rejected much of the heretical doctrines. Continuationism is just another wrong docrine they still have to leave behind like all the other dubious new doctrines.
The complete immersion is unnecessary...
I use to belong to a Pentecostal church (for 26 years) and now belong to a great Calvary Chapel church. I’m so happy for the change.
“Holding to a form of godliness although they have denied its power; avoid such people as these.”
-2 Timothy 3:5 (NASB2020)
Yeah, Justin Peters
@@kerispain4838 The problem today is trying to do research instead of preaching the gospel that people deny God's Power
This video is Reform doctrine.
Reformistst don't believe in signs and wonders to include miracles. They search the scripture for everything but that which is the signature of God.
I've personally seen the dead coming back to life, people on their death bed making a full recovery, tumors passing and being flushed down the toilet, aids disappearing, after the prayer of faith and the laying on of hands, etc, etc. Not to mention, I speak in tongues daily. This Flys in the face of the doctrine of reformist aka sadduccess. They reject spirituality because they can't control it, intellectually descibe it, comprehend it, or control who God does it through.
Keep believing.
@@epwatudaniel566 The Holy Spirit gives gifts at His will.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
@@kerispain4838like you
I greatly appreciate this, as it connects dots and helps me understand the Whos, the 'celebrities' who trampled through the Church and caused so much destruction.
I simultaneously feel sad, nauseous, and numb knowing that new batches of 'celebrities' still praise these pioneers and hold them up as the standard of who really has true faith in our Most High God.
Thank you Justin for helping us see past the deception and for telling us the real Truth that sets people free.
Blessings from Alberta,Canada. ✝️
The other teacher of tongues was the Apostle Paul. Be more careful. Do better.
Yes Paul the apostle entrusted with the gospel to the gentiles that stands even today. Paul wished every believer could speak or pray in other tongues for spiritual edification which we need more today. If one believe in Jesus and he has changed his life for better there is no question of devilish tongues. Those belongs to those who serve Satan and are not regenerated by the spirit of Christ. Those who love Jesus Christ have nothing to do with tongues of a god they don't serve .
Good job Kathy! Have you connected the dots with Calvinism history also? That John Calvin had Michael Servetus burned at the stake for false doctrine?? No problems. You live in your deception too. For a more honest, and less fake CNN presentation, I suggest you watch Michael Reeves on the Pentecostal History.
I wish I had the confidence to decree what is and is not of GOD. I have been saved for about 35years and have clearly seen GOD move in many ways very unusual ways.
This video is Reform doctrine.
Reformistst don't believe in signs and wonders to include miracles. They search the scripture for everything but that which is the signature of God.
I've personally seen the dead coming back to life, people on their death bed making a full recovery, tumors passing and being flushed down the toilet, aids disappearing, after the prayer of faith and the laying on of hands, etc, etc. Not to mention, I speak in tongues daily. This Flys in the face of the doctrine of reformist aka sadduccess. They reject spirituality because they can't control it, intellectually descibe it, comprehend it, or control who God does it through.
Keep believing.
Great message! I am a cessationist and I'm on the Lord's side. The Bible is my standard.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. What is your standard the bible? You are kidding right?
I was dying of kidney failure. The doctors told my parents to say gooy. I was pretty gone. Several Pastors I knew came to the hospital and prayed over me within hours my kidneys started working again. That was a miracle. So how do you explain that?
John 14:12
The touch of God. This is why many Pentecostals will ignore JP because they have encountered the Holy Spirit in a truly amazing way.
I watched the Lord heal my dying 8 year old granddaughter so too late to tell me God doesn’t perform miracles. God bless you! May the Lord fulfill His call on your life!!!
Amen!
@@justeencosar9766 Amen! What an amazing testimony.
When I became a Christian I had a miraculous healing. I went to no church at that time and now two plus years later I still have that healing. Churches or labels don’t define my faith the bible and the Holy Spirit do this. Let’s love one another even if we don’t always get it right. Jesus king of kings you are my Lord.
what was the nature of your "miraculous healing"? What verifiable evidence do you have, whereby we should believe you?
I was a Pentecostal pastor in the Uk for 19 years.
Through reading the works of Jonathan Edwards God laid all my theology in a heap at my feet.
I thank God for his love and mercy to me and my family for setting me free from these false teachings.
It was after hearing Morris Cerullo in London at the Royal Albert Hall that God supernaturally opened my eyes to his lying boasts.
The night before I had attended a meeting by Dr Martin Lloyd Jones, and realised that what he preached was a far different gospel to what a morris Cerullo was preaching.
I had to leave the Pentecostal movement, but God by his love and grace as quick as he demolished my theology built me up quickly in a reformed love of the truth.
I thank God for all his great mercies, but those who truly are God’s cannot be deceived forever. God knows who are truly his and they will never be confounded. Blessed be God for his faithful love and mercy.
I am still in the ministry though now I am 83, and it is my great joy to still be able to preach the unsearchable mysteries of Christ.
Amazing testimony. I ❤ how God makes his presence so obvious! We do not deserve His grace, for sure!
So you ended up following some false teaching like limited atonement?
The atonement is limited whatever is your theology dear friend.
It is limited to those who believe.
We preach an open offer of the gospel, but we are saved by God,s grace, and without the Holy Spirit’s application and drawing no one will ever come.
God works through the preaching of the Word and only he can work the miracle of grace.
We do not save ourselves it is God who saves.
@@ericplatt1567 Thank you for your Calvinism. Unfortunately God predestinating people to hell is not biblical and is heretical.
God bless you Justin Peters, I have been binge watching all of your videos and they have enriched my life greatly 🙏 thank you so much
If we can not love someone we see we can not love the Father nor do we know Him. Sorry all these actions say other wise. To know someone is in error and to want to only share the truth yet ..doing it when they are not here to hear it. To be done in front of the world but infront of them? To share show things about them yet never showing the good they do for Chirst? Yeah they do more for Christ then ALL here with Justin. HOW can you people that say you LOVE JESUS yet hate your bother.
Please don't .. I can quote you only the word, about how we are to think, how we are to speak, and Christ love one another as I have loved you. Then that same love He loves us we are to do to our enemy. And Pent/Char/Word of faith are not our enemy. They all like me believe Christ came in the flesh died on the cross for the worlds sin was burired rose the 3rd day is the only way to the Father.
I have never spoke a evil word about Justin or any other. The world can see some of you almost hate Pent/Char/Word of faith. What believer just takes all Christ gives as in mercy grace forgiveness and will not share this this show this to ALL? You know the sis and erros they do but.. you as the light do not know the GOOD they do for Christ.
You are not of God. yeah I know and agree with allot of what Jsutin says but.. hes wrong. Well what hes doing is no calling its not in the word. We all can judge yet told not to because Justin is case in point. Can't do it in love. You have GODS EAR and you take there fautls sins goof ups before MAN? Before SINNERS? YES this is RUclips.. and you people don't care
Your not talking about one man they have families kids babies and look how you treat them. And you thank a man for going out of his way to find faults in others. OThers that preach something they do not agree with. Making sure you leave out all the GOOD they do for Christ. Sorry sis but its been over 20 years that I have known the good they do yet do not agree with all they teach. But I show them love mercy grace forgiveness because Christ did this for me EVERY DAY! How can I not love you no matter what you do how far you fall yet KNOW THIS. I am one of thoes Justin goes after. Yet know someone out there is praying for you. You are not the enemy I know who it is and I have all authority power over him I have no power no authority over ANY MAN
Yeah understand that. We do not have power authority over others. We are no ones god. You do not answer to me. So you can teach preach what ever you want I can disagree not like it but I have not been given any right to tell you what to do. Justin has people within that have the right to speak on what he does. He has no right to speak evil negative about anyone were told EPH 4 not to. Thanking someone for doing something that even Christ never does.
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My family was pentecostal. I felt strange in church even as a young boy. My grandmother was a pastor, and I could tell something was horribly wrong. I now know why. The roots of the pentecostal church are poisoned. Thank you, Justin.
@finalnuts....I'm 66 yrs old and Im just now understanding how false so much of the Pentecostal church is, was. I always questioned it to myself but had a hard time bringing it up to my family. So greatful that the Lord opened my eyes and gave me answers!
Be a simple believer of Christ because no denomination ever got everything right. Every denomination lacks most of the things and thats why we need Jesus Christ only and not any denomination. God bless every Saint. Ameen HalleluYAH 👍🏻💖✝️...
Mate, the strength of a denomination is that it offers some protection against these kinds of characters. All of the people mentioned in this video where self-ordained, starting their own Ministries/churches where they could have absoluteand unquestionable control and be accountable to nobody!
There is a reason why Paul appointed groups of elders to lead the churches he planted, and why he himself made himself accountable to the other apostles.
The most disturbing part of this video for me is the laughter emanating whilst Sid Roth tells of a 2 month old baby being kicked like a football. They laughed!!!!
Makes me cringe too
That was very weird
It’s so absurd that it’s funny tbh, Obviously no one should be punting babies
As a reformed continuist, I agree with Justin’s analysis of many of the extreme/unbiblical aspects of the charismatic movement and those who perpetuated these extremes. However, the danger is that every charismatic gets lumped together and tarred with the same brush. There are millions of charismatics who believe emphatically in the “5 Solas”, reject hyper charismania and are committed to the gospel. There are also cessationists who also follow dubious doctrines. They also need to be exposed.
@biblestudywithstephenrussell: I've never met a charismatic that has sound doctrine. As for cessationists who follow dubious doctrines, that is outside of the cessationism of the sign gifts. A lot of them don't have scripture down with the details, and make mistakes on other types of scripture, but at least they have the idea of the Sign gifts as being gone. Cessationism is only about the sign gifts and nothing else. It is easy to point out the truth, and yet people on both sides, miss it completely. It's bad teaching from bad teachers. So to me, ALL false doctrine needs to be addressed to anyone who has it. I wish people would STOP using "religious sounding words" and titles of types of beliefs. It is utter foolishness. Some say 5 solas, and some say 3. The question is, WHY? And why bother. If it is not scripturally sound, then who cares? In 36 years of teaching, it is appalling as to how little people know of scripture. They either guess at it, or they repeat what they have been told. There is no more "rightly dividing the word'. Studying is almost absent. "They will not endure sound doctrine" has taken over. When anyone claims to be a denomination, they are DEAD wrong. God is not a denomination and does not follow someone else's bible. The words are HIS and are meant to be understood His way alone. That takes time and effort.
Oh Reformed! Like John Piper.Quote: God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . .
What happened to boasting on Jesus Christ? Has he forgotten about Jesus to fuss about others that do not sing his favorite music?
@@user-it4sw3ry9p This is the Calvinist favourite song. It goes like this
"Jesus loves me, this I know.
As for you, I don't think so.
Only some to Him belong. We are right and you are wrong.
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Aren't you happy and proud that God chose us for heaven and decided not to fry us in Hell like everyone else!
'Eenie Meenie Miney Moe, this one goes to heaven off to hell another one goes!'
But then again, I hope this isn't evanescent grace that I'm walking in and instead I'm actually deceived and one of the reprobates that He created to burn as a candle for His glory in Hell forever."
TRUTH IN LOVE
PS Seriously sir, they have made a monster out of our Loving God and Savior. I sickens me to the core of my being when I hear their slanderous Heresy. But many are waking up and leaving the Cult, so I continue in that hope. Every day is Calvin whacking day to me!
Peters hates Pentecostal people because he is crippled and didn't get healed in their services. Maybe he is not healed because he fights against the doctrine of divine healing he doesn't believe in it.
This was an amazing lesson. Thank you Pastor for freely giving your God-given wisdom.
Thank you. For this information. I was raised in the crazy Pentecostal craziness. My Father was a preacher and I have known of several of those you talk about. I had always known something was wrong with the teaching. I always had these feelings it didn’t make since. I turned against God and anything that had to do with Christianity. But I Thank the Lord about 43 years ago I found the Real Savior and excepted The Lord and been able to really get to know Our Lord. I am now 87 and He is more precious every day.
Be very careful. These examples are NOT Pentecostal! Pentecostal is NOT Charismatic. And YOU ARE A LIAR. You disgust me, and I hope you find the One God, and JESUS is His name. You are lying about the Holy Ghost. You are in complete envy of the Truth. You want to "walk the Roman road." That was written for the Church. A cheap easy belief-ism. You cheap shots shoe you insults only solidify your insecurities. Show me the bible where the word trinity was used...EVER. I eould much rather be in a spirit filled REAL Pentecostal church than to sleep in YOUR church. Paul wrote " I thank God I speak in tongues more than you all." Therr are SO many ways that you are misleading at best. Again, NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE ONENESS PENTECOSTAL. You kept choking, and that was on lies hanging over God's word. YOU NEED JESUS.
God has delivered you from the false teaching. Praise the Lord
Sorry, I just took the Lord at his word. I am not a faith healer, nor do I even watch TBN, or word of faith, as they are in error. However, I was a missionary to Africa, and before Bible College, we would go street witnessing. I can tell you that God will indeed answer prayer for healing. Especially when the gospel is being preached to lost people. We need to be careful not to go to the other extreme.
John 14:12 is the answer-
Kingdom of God is not in WORD but POWER and we are to desire spiritual gifts...Titus was a next generation and Jesus said I was sent, now I send you to make disciples and send them...the name Apostle is sent one.
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
These are the words of Jesus.
Matthew 10:5, 8 KJV
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them ... [8] Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
@@bobhenderson3335 The apostles could actually impart the gift to others. But I can't find where the "others" could impart the gift again.
Exactly- and I wear Eyeglasses and pray for the sick - some get heald.
Eyeglasses don‘t disqualify me for prying for other people.
Justin is the other extreme which is just as bad as the ones he accuses.
I thank God for the gifts of the Spirit for they are a testament to the power of God’s nature that has been on display since the beginning of time. I will continue to experience God supernatural care and gifts like I have for the last 40 years.
Yes. Me too.
I am a Pentecostal Canadian for over 40 years. We don't deny the trinity. We are 100% biblically based. My pastors and leaders do not typically exhibit immoral sexual behaviour at least to my knowledge. We are not Shakers and some of these other fringe groups that you mention along the way, so truly what you are doing is lumping everyone into the same basket. It is the ultimate Strawman argument. You see these people, well here's who they really are - these other people who believed something different.
He’s misleading his people lumping Pentecostals into these people of the past. I’m Pentecostal almost 60 years and these people and their doctrines were never taught or revered in our churches. I had only heard of 1 if them within the last 15 years because of a discussion online about the Azusa revival.
Justin's view is very narrow, poor, condemning...corrupting people's minds from the simplicity of faith in God's power... Why can't Justin Peter speak against people like Smith Wigglesworth and Derek Prince..etc..?.
If we are unbiased means... We need to show both sides of the coin....
Will he be able to show true gift operating ministers?
Sorry to say.... even though he has Indwelling of the Holy Spirit...he resists Outpouring of the Holy Spirit... He must REPENT from resisting God's work in and around the Globe....
thank you! I thought I was the only one here that was speaking positive & logical facts - He's LUMPING all together, good & bad. He's showing only ONE SIDE of people - their sins. Does NOT mention any of the great good many of these Great Saints did.
@@deejay7759 That is the problem in that a lot of Calvinists and Cessationists equate Pentecostals and Charismatics to be the same thing. The reality is that there are Classical Biblical Pentecostals who adhere to strict Holiness Bible teaching and sanctification and the full gospel who the actual heirs of the actual forerunners of the Early Pentecostal Movement. Examples are the Church of God(Cleveland, TN), the International Pentecostal Holiness Church and The Assembles of God. None of these denominations which came before a lot of false Charismatic teaching approve of a lot of modern Charismatic excess. True Classical Biblical Pentecost has nothing to do with NAR, Prosperity Gospel, or any Charismatic excess. In fact, True Biblical Pentecost recognizes that a lot of Charismatic teaching is false doctrine that invaded or tried to copy the Pentecostal Church without the true anointing and true gifts of the Holy Ghost. It is no different in how Calvinist and Cessationsist denominations have their own problems with Churches becoming more liberal. A lot of Charismatic excess and strange fire is nothing but Satan trying to copy and mimic and make light of the real Holy Ghost anointing to turn people off from True Biblical Pentecost.
@@deejay7759 I am 80 years old born to Pentecostal parents, attended many Pentecostal churches
across Canada I never witnessed a lot of things that Justin Peters talks about! I followed Justin up
a few weeks ago I unsubscribed I have witnessed many Divine healings in recent years, since the days of the apostles anyway! My prayer is that Justin would be healed walk in Pastor John McArthur's office without his wheelchair !That would probably change their views! Hebrews ch,13 verse 8 Jesus Christ the same Yesterday today and Forever! No expiry date. God Bless!
“False teachers are God’s judgment on people who don’t want God, but in the name of religion, plan on getting everything their carnal heart desires! That’s why Joel Osteen is raised up! Those people who sit under him are not victims of him! He is the judgment of God upon them, because they want exactly what he wants, and it’s not God!” - partial quote from Paul Washer
Thank you for another day my father, and for Justin Peters, please bless all of these people😮
Pentecostal and Charasmatic are not even close to being the same. I am a Pentecostal preacher and I preach Christ Crucified...and grace upon grace. It is wrong to lump us with charasmatics.
No it's not
Both groups have a lot of very greedy preachers.
No joke the first time I was in a pentecostal church as an adult I heard the whole God is not a respector of persons doctrine. That is suppose to be charismatic lol.
the pastor of the church I attend was diagnosed with a collpased lung on one side many months ago. He led in the worship and preached. Evrery breath was a struggle. You could hear him gurgling as he breathed. He would have coughning fits, and often he had to have somebody else lead in the singing. At the end of the morning he would be worn out. The assembly began to pray for him in earnest that God would heal him. One person laid their hands on him and commanded any spirit of infirmity to come our of him, just like in the Gospels. At another time, a brother commanded his collapsed lung to inflate in the name of Jesus. That was several months ago. a few weeks later at he preachged without any trouble. At one time he was struck by something that caused him to laugh joyfully. He continued to explain something but couldn't stop laughing - more like chuckling. I was taking note of this happening in the congregation, and wonderfully amazed that he had not been coughing or spluttering, gurgling or wheezing all through the morning.
At the end of the service time, he began to tell the small congregation that a few weeks back (about the same time that the person who had commanded his lung to inflate in Jesus name) he felt something unexplainable happen in his body and he specficially mentioned he had no idea what it was. Being curious, he went to have his doctor etc check him out and the report came back that his lung that had been collapsed was no longer collapsed but was fully functional. The congregation gave praise ot God for His mercy to our brother and pastor. Since then he has had no trouble breathing, and he sings at full strength with the joy of the Lord.
Jesus Christ healed his lung - with NO Medical intervention. Our brother has also had a cracked disc reparied through prayer and the laying on of hands. I can testify to this merciful miracle of our God Jehovah Rapha - the Lord who is Healing us Exodus 15:26.
Psalm 103 - Bless the Lord O my soul and all that is within me, bless His holy name. And forget not all His benefits; who forgives ALL your sins and HEALS ALL your diseases."
this is an old testament promise. It is an atonement promise.
Isaiah 53 speaks of the Messiah who would bear all our pains and diseases. Matthew 8:17 bears testimony to this. Jesus took to Himself not only oru sins but also our sicknesses and our pains. These things are part of His atoning work on the cross.
Acts 10:38 Jesus went about healing ALL who were opressed of the Devil for God was with Him. All diseases are an oppressioj of the Devil.
There is no sickness and no sin in Heaven
Thy Kingdom come; Thy will be done, on earth as in Heaven. Matthew 6.
Jesus told us to pray that the condition of Heaven would become a reality on earth. WE are of the earth as to our mortal bodies. May that blessings of Heaven flow into our spirits and into our mortal bodies - in the name and authority of Jesus Christ.
Salvation is for the whole man not just for sins to be forgiven, but bodies healed by the atoning, redeeming God glorifying work of Jesus Christ for His glory.
"These signs shall follow then that believe" Mark 16.
good
My husband's collapsed lung reinstated on its own. It's actually quite common, you need to do a bit of medical research on these things
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May be so in your case - but this was in direct answer to believing prayer. I give glory to God. George gives glory to God who inflated his lung.
Eevn if as you say it "CAN" happen on its own, it doesn't happen on its own becauwe god has been graacious and has granted it to be inflated without anyone doing anything. Just like every breath you take IS A GIFT from God and EVERY heartbeat IS A GIFT from God. It is God who heals and even when the body is working to heal (ITSELF, it is ONLY because of the Law of life that God has put in every human body. The body CANNOT HEAL ITSELF any more than it can keep itself alive. It SEEMS to heal itself because of God's blessing of His wisdom and power embedded in the body, the mortal frame.
Give glory to God.
Medical science for all its 'good' cannot heal anyone, or know the truth about why life is existing in the body. The 'life' is from God.
Medical science is not he be all and end all of knowledge and wisdom and understanding - GOD IS.
peace to all in Jesus Christ.
Amen. Cessationists, the Holy Spirit is still operating the spiritual gifts. ( 1 Corinthians 12:11). Don't be ignorant of spiritual gifts.
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Your husband's reinstated lung is great news. BIt it is not a nullification of God intervening when man is at his wits end. Also, how do you know that God does NOT do things like resinstate a persons lungs on the quiet just as an act of mercy?
It is God who gives us breath each day, and causes our heart to breathe.
Give thanks to God.
If it resinstated "on its own" it had nothing to do with a medical effort.
Give praise to God.
My grandparents were heavily involved in the charismatic movement, and they believed their prayers availed much. My parents left church after I grew up, they served in a baptist church when I was young.
I thought for years that I was missing something not being "baptized in the Spirit" and not speaking in tongues or prophesying, however with biblical knowledge and a lifetime of following Christ, I never worry about that anymore. I keep my faith in Christ simple: biblical knowledge, prayer, faith in what Christ did on the cross, and living my life out with His Spirit in me. If He wants to do works in me with special spiritual gifts, He has every opportunity to do so. At this time, 50 years a believer, He has not.
The best and first gifts are those that encourage and teach others to be faithful and trusting. Tongues are last on Paul's list of gifts. It is very harmful to promote any gift as necessary for salvation. Faith and repentance is all the gospel requires.
Some Believe that they are so Holy and know the Bible theology so well that they can find a way to justify their sins, that is their excuse,but it is a lie and innocent people get hurt.
Because you don't believe you can. Paul put the Corinthian Charismatics in order. He didn't forbid them to exercise the Gift of the Holy Spirit. He taught them to exercise the gifts properly. Reread it.
@@user-it4sw3ry9p yes and Peters fellowship does not believe in living in the Holiness of God. They drink, smoke, chew, cuss, and are heavily involved in the idolatry of sports and politics. Also ruin their girls and wives with birth control chemicals.
I found the one I used to attend was more interested in hocus pocus than actually studying the word of God.
I Believe i power of God i believe in miracles signs and wonders
k...convince us: what "miracles/signs/wonders" have you witnessed?
St Paul's take on "tongues" says it ALL when speaking "In Tongues" PUBLICLY ensure there is somone able to INTERPRETE...if NOT stay in your room or confine your tongues between God & you...Amen
It's very simple logic if there is false speaking in tongues and manifestation. There has to be a genuine tongues and manifestation.
Hello Justin, its always so good to see you exposing these wolves. I thank God for leading me to your channel of truth. I also thank you for the beautiful bible readings every morning. I feel sick listening to them distort the true holy word.
As mad as it makes me from Kenneth Copeland, Todd White, Joyce Meyers, Creflo Dollar, ect. I still pray for them to hear the lord's voice.
Thank you for this upload. Great job brother.
God bless you and everyone in Jesus Christ name Amen. 👑🙏🕊❤️🩹❤️🩹
I love pentecostal people
I'm charismatic!!
Please don't hate on gifts they are not closed.
I don't have the gift of tongues. I have visions of prophecy voice of prophecy I have God changing what I mean to say healing and raising the dead through prayer.
Sorry ...
I was saved out of Catholicism into "a personal relationship with God"
And Baptists 1 out of 10 churches believe I can even talk to God at all!
The injustice!
But y'all don't really love us do you?
I was saved in a baptiCostal church.
They went fully Baptist.
It makes me cry how much Baptists are against our relationship with God.
Like the Catholics.
I love when Baptists are ok with gifts.
Tongues is absolutely real, I just have a different gift. God chooses words I don't choose and it comes true ... Like God chooses a job like my work study in school I tried to ask for one job and God changed my words to a job that didn't exist yet ... A commuter lounge.
Then I worked there.
But I get detailed visions and an out loud voice from God that's loud in my ear the voice of God and I can see amd discern angelic and demonic spirits.
Baptists just attack you and say you're not allowed to have gifts - I had never heard of new age I learned about that like I'm against it but like maybe a year or two ago.
I'm sorry I don't make you feel like other pentacostal but I'm so tired of Baptists attacking Christian people ...
Not understanding that imperfect people need the Spirit of God.
I'm going to turn this off.
I'm a few minutes in.
I have gifts.
Sorry!!
If I chased them away then I would be ignoring God.
I get tired of it that's blasphemy.
I believe in the Trinity
@@ScoobyDoo-kt9pv me too
I go to pentacostal church now because Baptists hate prophecy hearing from God visions anything they hate anything God does in my life outside of that one church worship room that treated me well.
Thank you, brother Justin, for you extensive and dilligent labour before the Lord and for our edification. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
I agree with you @ P.G. Pray for unity in the body. I believe calling out false doctrine has a place within the body - brother to brother - one on one first. Sometimes, when I see well-known Christian leaders criticizing each other publicly I am so sad. Usually I am most saddened by the prideful manner in which they make their presentations. Not loving. Doesn’t seem to come from love but from arrogance. And I often agree with what they’re saying but not the way or the manner in which it is said. Or even the platform on which it is presented. And sometimes it’s done in church services with such a lack of love, which teaches congregants to be just as arrogant, judgmental and unloving. God saved me in a charismatic Word of Faith church. Loving brothers and sisters from other denominations took the time to have conversations with me that taught me better how to rightly divide the word of truth and I left that denomination. Now there were others who were very critical of me before I knew better. They were conservative, mean and unloving in their approach and it caused me to not want to listen. But those that took the time to lovingly teach me were heard. I wonder what Jesus thinks of this behavior. I often wonder whether or not Christian leaders have first attempted to reach out to each other before publicly attempting to shame one another. It really is so very sad. Jesus prayed about this very thing. He wants unity in His body.
“I am not asking on behalf of these alone, but also for those who believe in Me through their word, that they may all be one; just as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, SO THAT THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE SENT ME.” John 17:20-21 NASB
There is a lot at stake!
Pray pray pray for the body of Christ and its leaders. Pray like Jesus prayed. 😢
Thank you; a balanced and Godly comment, like a drink of cool water in an arrogant, taunting and ill-informed presentation. All churches and movements have faults, just as individuals do
I enjoy your daily Bible reading, I have missed this type of videos!
Wisdom must be applied. Speaking in tongues is biblical but must be done according to The Word!
@rhondaharrera1625 According to the bible and to Paul, Tongues do not exist. They CEASED just like Paul said they would, 2000 years ago. Wisdom comes from bible facts, and that comes through knowledge. Breaking the rules of speaking only shows that someone is NOT following the word of God. That's not very wise. In fact, in some cases, it leads to heresy. Verses taken out of context, is very harmful. Experiences do not validate scripture. I've taught for 36 years. If you want to honor God with knowing what his word says, then get back to me. I can kill the whole idea of tongues even existing, in ONE verse.
This video is Reform doctrine.
Reformistst don't believe in signs and wonders to include miracles. They search the scripture for everything but that which is the signature of God.
I've personally seen the dead coming back to life, people on their death bed making a full recovery, tumors passing and being flushed down the toilet, aids disappearing, after the prayer of faith and the laying on of hands, etc, etc. Not to mention, I speak in tongues daily. This Flys in the face of the doctrine of reformist aka sadduccess. They reject spirituality because they can't control it, intellectually descibe it, comprehend it, or control who God does it through.
Keep believing in ,"these signs that will follow those who believe." -Jesus
In the Bible, tongues were real languages which could be interpreted, is it the same today?
@@PennySmart Hello Penny. I've been teaching for 37 years and I use the original languages to help people understand better. I'm afraid you have a long way to go if you want to understand what "tongues' WERE. Paul said that tongues would CEASE and they did: 2000 years ago. So it is NOT the same. Everyone breaks the rules that Paul laid down, simply because they don't exist anymore.. The gift didn't come until the disciples became the apostles. Tongues started in the OLD testament. They were indeed real languages and Paul explains what they were for, and to whom they were for, as well as, Why. If you really want to learn about the gifts and their purpose, then get back to me and we can go over it. I can prove in one verse that NONE of the sign gifts exist. The CHURCH GIFTS are not the sign gifts. The church gifts were for, "Serving One Another". The sign gifts did not. Mark 16:20 tells you what they were for. Hebrews 2:3-4 tells you the same thing, only the Greek is even in much more detail. The Sign gifts were for the Apostles ONLY. So let me know if you really want to learn, or if you are just curious. If you are a christian, then you should be much more than curious.
I'll take any examples of Acts 2 type tongues today
I remember hearing a TV "evangelist" declare that he does not sin any more, and not even a week later, he was photographed in the company of a protlstitute, and it wasn't a counseling session. It's so sad that God rebuked him publically and hoped more public charlatans are exposed!
I’m planning to watch this later. I do hope you consider the fact Pentecostals vary in nature and are not all uniform in its beliefs. I do also Hope allowances are made for leaders that are openly trying to correct certain aspects that may not be correct.
Like I said, I am planning to view/listen later today. Much love and respect to Justin.
Of course he won't consider it. He can't stand charismatics.
@@ntlearning Update to my comment: I actually believe Justin has become more fair in his presentation. He is right about the behaviors of these people he speaks of. What he should come out and acknowledge is that as movements continue, there are always people that God grows in grace and knowledge. A bunch of us are working on changing the culture of Pentecostalism and trying to get back to scripture instead of secret divine revelation.
@@thevoiceoftheteacher3581 I don't believe Justin has been of good faith at all. Michael Reeves, also reformed, has a better doco on this which is more honest. When someone presents a documentary highlighting only the bad points, and not one good things, that's called an agenda. You shouldn't be supporting this guy. Every denomination has things to fix.
@@ntlearning Interesting, I’ll check out Michael Reeves
@@thevoiceoftheteacher3581 My correction: Ryan Reeves. He is a Reformed theologian. Far more intelligent. No lazy scholarship here. Far more respected in the Academic and Theological world.
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Thank you for your service brother Justin. I love your sound teaching. The church needs it desperately. Love in Christ Jesus. Pastor Duane and Chico Pup ❤
So... I'm a cradle Catholic. I love history so this was right up my alley. I really enjoy your take on things JP!
I was invited to a service at a charismatic church by a co-worker, my first and last visit. There was a full rock band going and 4 ministers on the stage, it was no church! People were running around with flags and "speaking in tongues." The lady behind me scared me half to death when she started to sound like a Muslim at noon in a cryer tower! Obviously, being Catholic it was way out of my wheelhouse as our Mass is fastly different. ANYWAY! The ministers were encouraging people to come up front to be saved. As I'm watching I notice the 4 ministers working their way down to one end. I then notice a man go up to be saved but there was also another one next to him literally placing him in a specific spot. I leaned over to my friend and said, "You see that man right there? He's going to fall out as soon as all 4 ministers get to the stairs." Sure as heck...he threw up his hands, hollered and threw himself on the floor! All 4 ministers came down and laid hands on him and he popped right up.😅
I looked at my friend, who's jaw was on the floor, and said, "You know better." Then I got up and left.
I swear you could feel the evil in that huge "church."
@christinehenley9017 Well said. Now get out of that Catholic church as fast as you got out of the other one. You should be able to feel the EVIL from that church as well. There is so much I can tell you from scripture, that it's hard to find a starting place. Let me say, that I've been teaching for 36 years and I use the original languages to help people understand what is actually being said. We need to have a long conversation. You need to study scripture. I hope you reply and take the steps to discover what you are involved with. I pray for God to open your eyes, quickly. God is not a denomination and neither am I.
Christine, Please don’t listen to people trying to get you to leave the Catholic Church. It is the one true apostolic church started by Jesus. All others can be traced back to men and most within the last 200 years. There are 40,000 denominations of churches today all because Martin Luther didn’t like parts of the catholic practices, and some were wrong at that time, but Martin Luther told his mom, do not leave the Catholic Church. Why would he tell others to leave but not his dear old mom. After ML left, there was Calvin,then Zwingly and on and on and on, all knowing the best way to worship our Savior, Jesus Christ. Stay the course, run the race until the end as Paul said.
@christinehenley9017. I just received a "thumbs up" on a comment I gave you. Was that you? If so, would you like to talk? I so hope, that you are out of that church.
@@JerryPotter. are you really serious??? You have just heard and read testimonies of these man-made religions? Now you you want people to leave the Church that Jesus found to follow who? Can't you see this is the problem we are facing today for everyone has become an expert in God stuff and will not follow the teachings of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He founded ONE Church under Peter as the Rock. Do you know the God is also referred to as the Rock in the Bible? Please, the day we stop misinterpreting the Holy Scriptures is the day all these churches that seem be found every other minute by all and sundry. May God help us all.
@@JerryPotter.Where do you get your knowledge of the Roman Catholic Church & its people's belief?
We read our Holy Bible, attend Mass, take the Holy Eucharist (the Body & Blood of the Lamb of God, our Lord Jesus Christ).
Invest in the Catechism of the Catholic Church & read how our Catholic faith is inextricably from the Old & New Testament. Educate yourself please.
May God bless you search for the Truth.
I can’t ignore what the Bible teaches about the Gifts of the Spirit.
The Spirit is the Gift. Then there are the manifestations of the Spirit, and unknown tongues is a prayer to God - spirit to Spirit.
@@karenfulk191 Wow. Now that is an uneducated answer. HINT: the word, "unknown' is NOT in the Greek text. It's a bad KJV of trying to solve the problem that THEY didn't even understand. NOBODY prays to God in an unknown tongue. If it was "spirit to spirit" then YOU are NOT needed. You make a fool out of Jesus on the cross. He died so that I could have direct access to heaven with my prayers when he tore the veil of the temple in two. YOU are denying that FACT. You are in violation of 2 cor 12: 4. It is UNLAWFUL for any man to speak that which Paul heard in heaven. YOU break all the rules of tongue talking. Therefore you are NOT following God. Tongues CEASED just like Paul said they would, 2000 years ago. You miss the fact that women were NEVER allowed to speak in tongues because it usurps the authority of the man. You are in violation of Mark 16:20. The SIGN gifts were to CONFIRM THE WORD OF GOD. It HAS been confirmed. It's the BIBLE. Therefore ALL of the sign gifts are gone because the apostles are DEAD. The Bible is FINISHED. Did YOU ever write scripture? Did you confirm anything with signs? If you say "yes', you are a lying heretic. So first, you need to get out of your church and study for a few years. And stop being a parrot and repeating what you have been told. Paul tells you that tongues ceased because he told you where they came from: THE OLD TESTAMENT. So ask yourself; why hasn't anyone taught you about THAT, and why haven't you read it for yourself? I just proved to you in ONE verse that tongues don't exist. Now how are you going to approach God? A little humility and asking for help, goes a long ways.
Kingdom of God is not in WORD but POWER and we are to desire spiritual gifts...Titus was a next generation and Jesus said I was sent, now I send you to make disciples and send them...the name Apostle is sent one.
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
@@fredthe47thKingdom of God is not in WORD but POWER and we are to desire spiritual gifts...Titus was a next generation and Jesus said I was sent, now I send you to make disciples and send them...the name Apostle is sent one.
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
@@jasonbryan8316 You are dead wrong. "Not by might and NOT BY POWER, but by my Spirit, says the Lord". Paul never said to desire gifts. The Spirit gives them as HE wills. Paul is saying to be zealous of the gifts; wanting them all to be in the church. That is why he says, "the hand can not say to the foot, I have no need of you". Everyone depends on everyone else. Next: Jesus sent out the Apostles to preach to all nations. The Apostles never came to the Americas or Japan, or Australia or Korea. Does that mean they disobeyed God? NO. Now you need to figure out the answer. Also, Jesus said, Behold the kingdom of God is upon you. He is talking about himself.
I attended a number of Word of Faith churches; none of them looked down on medical care. People were always advised to use wisdom and seek medical attention for illness and to believe in healing through prayer, the Word of God, and the power of the Holy Spirit.
Ironically, it was an alleged "Orthodox Presbyterian" college fellowship leader who told me that Christians should not go out of their way to care for their health, including exercising, because such activity was born out of a fear of dying. She also taught us not to study hard in college, not to work hard, and not to marry. She always identified Word of Faith teachers as false, but she had many false teachings of her own.
Word of Faith pastors taught me that Christians should be good stewards of all God has given them, including their health.
Yes, Pentecostals have made errors and should correct them, but they are not the only ones. Pentecostals need to study and teach the Bible line by line as Baptists do. Baptists need to anoint the sick with oil and expect them to be healed as the book of James teaches (it calls for the elders of the church, not the apostles, to do so).
Also Baptists need to acknowledge that believers received the baptism of the Holy Spirit when the apostles laid hands on them; that is clearly not the same as being saved which is accomplished by belief and confession.
Everyone has mistakes to correct; "let God be true, and every man a liar" (every means every).
I always enjoy your teaching!
I was raised Methodist, with my high school years being 70 through 74… That was the time when I was really starting to pay attention. It was not strong Sunday school or Bible study offered and I didn't hear a lot about Jesus Christ. I heard a lot about social justice.
When I was 21 I went over to the Episcopal church… And there I received an in-depth education into the tenets of the Christian faith at a time when the Episcopal church was definitely Sola Scriptura standing entirely on scripture for everything they said and did. (I am aware that's changed). There was a charismatic movement happening in some Episcopal churches. The bishop of the Central Florida diocese, the Rev. John Howe, was charismatic but not charismatic in the "jumping up-and-down rolling in the aisles" sense. It was in the sense that there was the belief that the Charismata could still manifest "at certain times" in certain ways to Christians pursuing their faith in depth. That, as in the very early Christian church, the Holy Spirit enriched one's Christian faith, mentored them as they read scripture, empowered prayer, and yes, ON OCCASION , healing could take place. Prophecy at a gathering was rare, was defined as "a Word from God" and only when someone else was also present to confirm it and it had to entirely agree with Scripture. Prophecy DID NOT ADD to the canon in any way. Prophecy did NOT foretell the future. And you did not hear people praying out loud in a prayer language. Unknown tongues edify no one. I remember going to the bishop one evening after a Friday night service because I was very troubled at a time when I was under heavy conviction from the Holy Spirit for things I had not brought to God and settled with him. And I was filled with self-loathing. The bishop listened kindly and patiently and explained what it was like to be under conviction by the Holy Spirit and that it was an example of God's love for us to bring us into correction so that we can get right with him for the sake of our souls and our faith. But then he said "I will pray for you before you go and pray that God will begin to show you how he sees you". I anticipated a polite little prayer followed by a pat on the shoulder and I would be on my way. I should also add that there was NEVER any "slaying in the spirit" happening in our church at any time. So he lightly touched my shoulder and began to pray and I don't remember anything that he prayed because almost immediately I was enveloped in a penetrating warmth and even though my eyes were closed there was an Intense penetrating light all around me… I could even smell the smell of fresh rain coming… And I felt that I was in the midst of the most perfect warm and loving embrace I had ever experienced. I felt completely and perfectly loved in that moment and I was acutely aware that the most high God knew who I was and was casting his gaze upon me in that moment and that I was loved and I was accepted. I knew that I was experiencing "the peace that passes all understanding". During that time in the embrace of the Holy Spirit , even though it was only the Bishop and I standing off to the side near the altar, while this was happening I felt that I was encircled by many people all around me praying for me. When it came to an end and I opened my eyes it was still just the Bishop and myself. But I knew that I had encountered God's Holy Spirit that night and it was life-changing. You may be tempted to say that I imagined it because I wanted it to happen. But I wasn't expecting anything to happen. I had had zero supernatural experiences associated that the charismatic movement is so famous for. And as I said before, those things didn't happen in our church or in our diocese. We were never taught to see the Holy Spirit as a side show entertainer. I had NO expectation of the Holy Spirit showing up to perform for me or to treat me to a "buzz". However, He DID show up and touched me and my life in a really powerful way.
I have had people tell me that the Holy Spirit doesn't work that way anymore ... I believe that he does but in circumstances that will advance the gospel in some way and/or will bring honor and glory to his name.
I agree that the charismatic movement has taken things to extremes in a way that are not biblical. But we must be very careful about saying that these things don't or cannot happen…
I witnessed organic healing in a church member that a group of us prayed for… (I'm an ICU RN) X-rays revealed defined nodules in his lungs. He was going for a CAT scan the next day and we all prayed for him and laid our hands on him as we did so asking for God to remove the offending nodules from his lungs. When he went for the CAT scan the results came out clear… The nodules were gone. They had already ruled out infection when the first x-rays were taken showing the nodules so there's no reason to believe that it was simply an infection that had finally resolved. Our prayers brought about the power and grace of God to deliver healing. Do I witness physical healing frequently? Absolutely not but ...last but not least I experienced my own healing. I had gone for my regular mammogram and was told that there was an abnormality. They did a follow up ultrasound and told me that I was going to have to have further work up and a needle biopsy because there was a mass in my left breast And there were roots coming out from it in different directions. The radiologist looked me right in the eye and actually told me "this looks like malignancy and you need to not waste any time". Naturally I was very frightened. But I knew that I could bring it to God and that I could ask for his healing. And we got many people to join and pray for me continually for the next few days until the appointment when the biopsy was going to be performed… And on the day that I went for the biopsy I already knew that it wasn't there anymore. And they confirmed that. It was completely gone without any medical intervention… only prayer and the power of the Holy Spirit. I was very blessed!
With God, all things are possible. We shouldn't give false hope to people ... but neither should we steal all hope.
I agree 100%
I am happy about any healings the Lord graciously did, but could you use more paragraphing indentation?.It was kind of hard to read.......
10:04 in the video.
Jeremiah 17: 9.
Feelings and good results do not equate truth.
Praise and Glory to the Lord ♡
I love your testimony. I am also a retired nurse - cardiac and ventilators was my specialty in telemetry. I agree absolutely that not all people receive true healings and some are sick on a psychosomatic basis but there are organic healings. My minister and his wife have a healing ministry and she received an unexplainable miraculous healing that the doctor cannot explain (and she is also a retired nurse). I also know others who received spontaneous healings and are now free of pain yet they never asked for any healing. Our God is great and all things are possible through Jesus' Previous Blood. And I am also a breast cancer survivor. The chemo almost killed me. I knew I would die and so the doctor lowered my dose and I survived. I knew the chemo would shrink the Her2Nu positive Stage II B lump. But I was not born again when I went through this but since being born again I have experienced organic healing as well. And I am so very happy that you were healed of the breast cancer and avoided the chemo, radiation and lumpectomy x 2 that I experienced. I would not wish it on my worst enemy. Praise God for His healing you. God bless you for your faith. You are a living example of faith. Please continue to share your testimony. Others need to hear it. It is important and affirms that healings exist in this present day. Since being born again (along with my husband) on my 29th wedding anniversary (Valentine's Day) in 2020 at age 62 I have also witnessed so many others becoming born again and receiving healing as well as having a demon cast out - all courtesy of the ministers my husband and I assist. I came out of New Age so I know first hand that witchcraft and demons and curses exist. Without testimony from you and others, it is hard for people to understand because they have not experienced these things. If you ever heard anointed music at a church service you know the Holy Spirit is there and has touched the musicians and singers. It brings tears to your eyes. But again unless someone experiences these things or sees them first hand you will always have those who are skeptical. It is our job as Christians to witness and share and if it falls on some deaf ears so ve it. Your testimony will touch many but sadly not all. But that is okay. Just please don't stop sharing your wonderful testimony
Great video. I’m using this vid as reference fir my sharing this Sunday. Thank you
What about Acts 19 , Paul preached to some men who had been baptized by John the Baptist. These men believed and spoke in tounges and prophesied
And ??
Acts 2:38-39 read the book of Acts. The Lord changes not, he’s the same yesterday today and forever. Hebrews13:8
@pamreedy5428 are we still making sacrifice at the temple ??
Wow! I believe I quoted the New Testament. But thank you for setting me straight.😳
@@pamreedy5428 Satan quoted scripture
Thanks for the videos brother! i missed listening to you read scripture this morning on my ride to work.
You speak so clearly . Every time i listen to you, i learn so much, and you just make the truth so easy to understand. Thank you for your work. God bless you and keep you !
Do u believe that?
Excellent program mister reverend Justin peters excellent program thank you so much knowledge We can get just by listening to this
Thank you so much for posting this! Early in my walk, I was surrounded by charismatics and thought it was historical Christianity. The Holy Spirit and the Word lead me to truth over and over. Your work is important so thank you!
Well what Justin presents here certainly isn't true Christianity. Heresy has a long and venerable history as well. That must be the "historical Christianity" you are referring to.
@@skyeprophet3564 Your name reveals much. To present yourself as a "prophet"??????
@@kerriferguson2023 Yes of course, that would be surprising to you. Just as much as if Agabus announced himself as a prophet to you. Read 1 Cor 12:28 and answer me who appoints prophets?
@@skyeprophet3564 Prophets, such as Moses and Elijah obviously don't exist anymore...If you are a "Prophet," have you ever parted the Red Sea, or gone up to Heaven in a whirlwind?? Thank you...I rest my case.......
@@caroleimani9754 You are quite wrong, prophets continued to exist right up to the present day. There is no scripture that says that prophecy would pass away until all is completed in Jesus' kingdom. There is even teaching in the New Testament on appropriate use of the gift of prophecy. You can rest your case as much as you like but that doesn't change reality.
Mark 16: 17 And these signs will follow those: In my name they will cast out demons; they will s😢peak with new tounges; they will take up serpent's; and if they drink anything deadly , it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on sick, and they will recover.
Glad to watch this! Thank you Justin!
Yours are always enjoyable and informative, Pastor. Thank you for all of the hard work you put in to spread the truth of the gospels. A rare find. I've been asking my mother what she knows about this history but this is pretty definitive. Thanks again, Sir..
John Wesley also believed that there was no reason why the gifts of the Spirit should not be in operation today. I think he made this statement in his journals.
Guess he should have read his Bible.
@@darthrubik8384 I think you should read yours. In the Old Covenant religion, many were healed . Even gentiles who were not under Old Covenant or Israelites. If the Old was merely a shadow of the real thing to come , why do you people doubt God can and will heal today , under a better Covenant?
@@darthrubik8384 Wesley read his bible, believe me. I think some of you people need to read his biography before you spew such nonsense.
@@BertGraef why do you reject the Bible?
@BertGraef you are so correct,
I skipped around a little bit on this video. I would like to see some evidence that Pentecostal missionaries said that speaking in tongues was not speaking in languages not know to the ones speaking it. Some Pentecostal missionaries (without Biblical support, just based on a Parham theory that became popular) thought they could just go overseas and speak in tongues and it would be the local tongue.
I would like to see his evidence that Pentecostals after that or even today believe that speaking in tongues is gibberish. From my perspective, Chinese and Vientamese people speak gibberish... because I don't know those languages. I can't even pick out words I might know like in Latin. I read in a book from the early days of the Charismatic movement, "The New Charismatics II" that Charismatics were expecting to speak in real languages.
I don't know that all claims of speaking in tongues are genuine languages. I wouldn't claim that. I suspect when the late brother Vinson Synan interviewed individuals who were still alive from the Azusa Street Revival, he was concerned about some people speaking gibberish instead of languages ruclips.net/video/Gw5IRJyKbxc/видео.html
It is also not true that when you go to a Pentecostal church, you don't hear genuine languages as speaking in tongues, because on occasion it has happened. But it isn't typical. Usually it is the I Corinthians 14 'no man understandeth him' situation. The congregation did not know the language either, and an interpretation was needed there in Corinth for the church to be edified, as is the case today.
There had been plenty of experiences of people hearing 'speaking in tongues' in languages they knew naturally at the Azusa Street revival and other Pentecostal meetings. There are quite a number of testimonies about this recorded in 'The Apostolic Faith', the Azusa Street revival newsletter. I have also read this in books from those who were there like Val Dez's _First on Azusa_ and in _the Comforter Has Come_. One of Vinson Synan's interviewees who was at the revival said in a video on RUclips that people speaking coming to the meetings and hearing their own languages, Japanese, etc. was something that caused the meetings to grow.
One of the missionaries, AG Garr spoke in tongues, not the normal tongue he spoke in when he spoke in tongues, and someone who had spoken in tongues indicated to him that he had spoken Bangla/Bengali. When he went to India and spoke in tongues, it did not turn out to be the local dialect.
This was an example of conjecture. I have heard/read it from cessationists, too, that the purpose of tongues was for the apostles to preach the Gospel in every language. But there is no Biblical support for this. Acts 2 doesn't guarantee that every times tongues are spoken someone will be present who understands. In I Corinthians 14 Paul wrote of the one who speaks in tongues, "No man understandeth him." In Acts 2, speaking in tongues drew attention and amazement while others responded with mocking and derision.... but then Peter ____preached the Gospel____ and many were cut to the heart, repented, were baptized, and were added to the church.
I was heavily involved in a pentecostal church for 8 years. I started seeing cracks in the operations of the church, but I was one of the most active leaders! I kept making exceptions and offered explanations for the behavior of my pastor (he was rude, judging, critical and frankly was not equipped for ministry). But, what finally made me left was the heavy focus on the miracles, gifts of the Holy Spirit and all the manifestions of the Holy spirit. Very little was spoke of Jesus. I left when I confronted the church about the above (it did not go well). I am a free-lance christian now and realize I have left a cult.
Amen......thank the Lord for revealing the truth to you
Same here
You sound like a person who goes to a bad school, and then says every school is bad. Lots of good Pentecostal churches out there. Try and find a church that doesn't believe in miracles today.
I would agree with you. I just went to a baptism recemtly for my niece at another pentecostal church and I could see right away that they appeared to be solid. (65 miles away or I might have started attending there). I did not mean to bash ALL Pentecostal churches. Unfortunately, I live in a super rural area-with few choices. I actually believe in miracles and was near death and I lived (which I wasn't supposed to!) It is obvious I was somewhat scarred by the church I mentioned previously-but know that it was the leaders not the denomination. I just get so frustrated with leaders that hurt people. (This church has lost over 40 individuals in the last 2 years already having a super small congregation As far as I know, these folks have not found a church since). I am not a church shopper or one to make wildly sweeping claims like you suggested above. There are good Pentecostal churches out there...I am not closed to attending one if they are led well. Your objection has merits though. Thanks for replying. @@ntlearning
@@runninggirl2765 I hear ya. I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, your story is not uncommon. It can be hard and I hope God has a new home for you spiritually. I'm Pentecostal and just currently completing my Masters in Theology with a focus on the early Church Fathers. I spend a lot of my time with Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans, and all the Evangelicals as I'm in a university context. I see weird stuff going on in all of them and their churches; but, there is really good stuff too.
However, Justin Peters is like CNN and will give you a selective truth on Pentecostal history - and he's done that with others as well. Some truth, a lot of omission, and a fair bit of misrepresentation.
Funny thing is that, Peters is a Calvinist, and yet John Calvin is implicated in aiding in the burning of Michael Servetus alive for false doctrine. It's a black mark on his ministry. That whole scandal is on a different level. And there's more.
Everyone knows there are wacky charismatics out there, but Peters actively tries to scandalize whole movements.....
Corinthians 14: 17-19 Paul says "I speak in tongues more than all of you" tongues IS for today we Pentecostals speak it often.
OH DEAR LORD . I have been to a couple of these “ churches” one scared me so bad I literally crawled over chairs to get out and away from them. I want a Bible based church where there is more teaching than preaching music that glorifies God and no people yelling and screaming and babbling.That old song Give me that old time religion applies to me.
'Silver and Gold have we Plenty!' The sheer arrogance of Oral Roberts left me breathless. How he sleeps at night - I don't know. I couldn't!
taiwan desperately need preacher like u Sir, 🙏 trying to find a church which doesn't have pentecostal influence is somehow like mission impossible 😢
That should tell you something.
Pentecost was a real phenomenon of the Holy Spirit.
Why would anyone look for a church without the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Or the Holy Spirit Himself?
THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "is a great last age (age of the word) that He will save man so accept the new and last work by done the Lord Jesus Christ"
"Utterances of Christ's in the Beginning chapter 103". ... (The disasters in the world are intensifying every day, and in My home, the dire disasters are intensifying. Since the change is now taking place, people do not know where they will step next. It will be it is only revealed after My judgment. Remember! These are the steps in My work, and this is the way I work. I speak to My firstborn children in tones of comfort, compassion, and love (because always If I enlighten these people and I will not leave them, because I have appointed them), while I subject people apart from My first-born children to severe judgment, to threats, and to intimidation, making them always afraid until point they are always nervous. Sons of the great red dragon, listen to Me! I came from Zion and incarnated on earth to gain My firstborn sons, to shame your father (these words are addressed to the descendants of the great red dragon), to help My first-born children, and correct the wrongs done to My first-born children. In the past, My children were intimidated and oppressed, and since the Father holds power for the children, My children will return to My loving embrace, never to be intimidated and oppressed again. More importantly, this is the only way that will allow My first born children to reign with Me in power.)
Almighty God said
Disasters in the WORLD ARE INTENSIFYING EVERY DAY, and in My HOME, severe disasters are intensifying. People have REALLY NOTHING to HIDE, NO PLACE they can hide THEMSELVES. Because the CHANGE is HAPPENING NOW, PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHERE they will step NEXT. It will only be revealed after My judgment. Remember! 😪
These are the steps in My work, and this is the way I work. For ALL My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN, I will comfort them one by one, I will RAISE them step by step; as for the servants, I will remove and abandon them one by one. 🙏 ☀️
This is a part of My management plan. After all the servants have been revealed, My firstborn children will also be revealed. (For Me, this is very easy. AFTER THEY HEAR My WORDS, ALL the SERVANTS will gradually retreat BEFORE THE JUDGMENT and threat of My WORDS, and ONLY My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN will be left. 🙏
It is not a voluntary thing nor can it be changed by human will; rather, it is My Spirit personally working.)
This is not a distant event, and you should somehow and must infer it from within this phase of My work and My words. Why I will speak so much and the unpredictability of My expressions is beyond people's understanding. I SPEAK to My FIRST CHILDREN in a TONE of COMFORT, COMPASSION, and LOVE (Because I ALWAYS ILLUMINATE these PEOPLE and NEVER FORSAKE THEM, because I CONSIGNED THEM), as I subject people apart from My firstborn children in severe judgment, in threats, and intimidation, which makes them always afraid to the point where they are always nervous. ☀️
When the situation reaches a certain point, they will escape from this condition (WHEN I DESTROY THE WORLD, these PEOPLE will go to the ETERNAL DEEP), but they will never escape My hand in judgment, and they will never free from this situation. ☀️
This, then, is their judgment; this is their chastisement. On the DAY the FOREIGNERS COME, I WILL REVEAL these PEOPLE one by one. These are the steps in My work.
Now, do you understand the purpose behind My previous utterances of those words? In My opinion, something that has not been fulfilled is also something that has been fulfilled, but something that has been fulfilled does not necessarily mean something that has been achieved. This is because I have My wisdom, and I have My way of doing things, which people really cannot understand. When I have achieved results in this step (when I have revealed all those who are evil against Me), I will start the next step, because My will is unstoppable and no one dares to hinder My plan of management and nothing dares to put obstacles - they must get out of the way!
CHILDREN of the GREAT RED DRAGON, LISTEN TO ME! ☀️
I CAME from ZION and was INCARNATED on WORLD to GET My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN, to SHAME your FATHER (these words are addressed to the descendants of the great red dragon), to HELP My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN, and RECTIFY THE WRONG DONE to My FIRSTborn CHILDREN. ☀️🙏
So DON'T BE CRUEL AGAIN; I WILL LET My ELDERLY CHILDREN fix you. IN THE PAST, My CHILDREN HAVE BEEN FEARED and OPPRESSED, and since the FATHER HOLDS POWER for the CHILDREN, My CHILDREN will RETURN to My LOVING EMBRACE, never to be FEARED and OPPRESSED AGAIN. 🙏💐
I am not unrighteous; It SHOWS My RIGHTEOUSNESS, and it is REALLY "loving what I love and hating what I hate." ☀️
If you say that I am unrighteous, you should hurry away. Do not be shameless and smoke in My home. You should hurry back to your home so I don't have to see you.
The ETERNAL DEPTH is your DESTINY and there you WILL STAY. If you are in My home, there will be no place for you, because you are work animals; you are the tools I use.
When I can no longer use you, I will THROW you into the FIRE to BURN you. These are My administrative assignments; I have to do it this way, and this alone shows how I work and reveal My righteousness and My majesty. MORE IMPORTANTLY, this is the only WAY THAT WILL ALLOW MY FIRSTBORN SONS TO RULE WITH ME IN POWER. 🙏💐
From "The WORD Appears in the Flesh". holy book
Fulfilled in "In the beginning He was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1). ... and "When I looked up, someone handed me a book wrapped in a scroll. I opened it and I read on both sides the prayers, lamentations, and curses." (Ezekiel 2:9-10). ... "His garment was stained with blood. He was called the "Word of God" (Rev. 19:13).
The kingdom He brought down and set up in the highest in the sky so that it can occupy His creation in the universe and engrave on it the entirety of His Holy name "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 fulfillment of (Mat. 16:18) "And I say as for you, you are Peter, on top of this rock I will build my Church, that even the power of death will not prevail over it.". ... and "The Letter to the Church in Philadelphia" (Rev. 3:7-13). ... And fulfillment of "The New Jerusalem" 💫 (Rev. 21:10) "The Spirit enveloped me, and the angel led me to the top of a very high mountain. He showed Me Jerusalem, the Holy City, which coming down from heaven from God."
(1 Peter 4:17) "For the time has come in the house of God for the beginning of judgment in the house of God."
📩 Calling and leading the sheep of God to His glorious Throne "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD"💐 to submit again to His authority so that He will continue to teach, guide and protect even in plague, famine and wild animals will not be moved by it and completely win this final battle with the big red dragon!
"They say with a loud voice, "Salvation comes from the Lamb, and from our God who sits on the Throne!" (Rev. 7:10). ... and it will be fulfilled that will be established above the sky/RUclips in (Isaiah 2: 2 / 9:6) "On the Last Day, the mountain on which Jehovah's temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock there. " . . . "For a baby boy is born to us. The rule will be given to him; and he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace." 💌
@@J_a_s_o_n Because some religous people don't want the Holy Ghost spoiling their own little skit . They are control freaks just like the Pharisses .
I get it, mission impossible.
Subscribed, how I wish all good churches would be as bold to expose these movements instead of being so polite and afraid to offend, they are such a stumbling block for many sincere people
@Pete_KPJ Nice comment. That's the first sensible thing I've read in awhile. I've taught for 36 years and I have no problem with calling out false teachers. The purpose is to protect those people who get trapped in this stuff because they don't take the time to research the truth. They think that putting in their time in church is all they need to do. God would rather they study for a few years and then have the knowledge to find a good teaching church. If you have any questions, I'd be glad to help you. Justin Peters is a good teacher, but he does leave a lot out. He speaks against basic false teaching through certain types of people, but that doesn't mean that he is going over it all for the sake of teaching the subject. I look for the ones that have questions, because they are so confused, and to the point of being hurt, or having their lives ruined by false teaching. They think God has forgotten them somehow. Happy Reading.
@@JerryPotter.LIAR YOU ARE ALL OVER LYING 😂😂😂😂! Keep away from this wolf
@@J_a_s_o_n you were a liar the first time I engaged you, and you are still a liar. You have changed nothing.
@@J_a_s_o_n you are a lying fraud with no proof of anything; especially from scripture. You think your "personal opinions' or "experiences" are higher than the bible. You don't use one word of scripture to prove anything. By your own words, you will be condemned.
The gift of tongues never vanished. The Holy Spirit also manifests through the speaking in new tongues. Mark 16:17. Both in new as well as old testament.
This video is Reform doctrine.
Reformistst don't believe in signs and wonders to include miracles. They search the scripture for everything but that which is the signature of God.
I've personally seen the dead coming back to life, people on their death bed making a full recovery, tumors passing and being flushed down the toilet, aids disappearing, after the prayer of faith and the laying on of hands, etc, etc. Not to mention, I speak in tongues daily. This Flys in the face of the doctrine of reformist aka sadduccess. They reject spirituality because they can't control it, intellectually descibe it, comprehend it, or control who God does it through.
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Example from church history ??
Always a pleasure watching your videos. Praise God for His faithful servants He blesses us with.
Kingdom of God is not in WORD but POWER and we are to desire spiritual gifts...Titus was a next generation and Jesus said I was sent, now I send you to make disciples and send them...the name Apostle is sent one.
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Thank you. Let's pray and hope that this will answer some questions for some more open minded charismatics!
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I came to know the Lord through the preaching of a Charismatic preacher and I'm still growing in the Lord in a Charismatic Church, Praise the Lord!
@bahrtnph: Get out of that church. Nobody ever Grew by listening to Charismatics. I can prove to you that tongues don't exist, in ONE verse. I could use plenty of others, but that's all I need to put them to shame. They know nothing of gifts or what they are for. Paul said tongues would cease and they did; 2000 years ago. I've been teaching for 36 years through the gift and I use the original languages to help explain things to people. You need help recognizing false doctrine. You had better ask yourself this: How is it that the very ones that told Jesus that they could do miracles and things "in his name", were the very ones that Jesus sent to HELL? DEPART; I NEVER KNEW YOU. ALSO: How do they break all the rules of tongue speaking if they are following God's word? Tongues don't exist, so the rules don't apply. What do you call it when people violate the word of God so much? Do you really think that has anything to do with God?
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I see from elsewhere this is a stock reply. It is not an apology for your views. Simply assertions. The polite thing would be to post once - at least that 's what I would do in your shoes?
@@phillipsugwas YOU are NOT in my shoes. It seems "stock" to you, because you can't see the same errors being committed by people just like you. You say, "simple assertions". I say YOU LIE. Mark 16:20 Hebrews 2:3-4 1cor 12:8-11, 1cor 13:8-12 1cor14:21-22 ALL say you lie. All I need is Mark 16 to prove to anyone that the sign gifts have ceased which includes "tongues'. In fact: you commit heresy. So what you see as "stock" answers, is actually FAILURE on their part and yours, to be able to answer any issue.
@@phillipsugwas Just because I have not explained many verses to you, does not mean that anything was a 'stock" reply. No one can answer me. So start with the answers that I have given others, WITH NO RESPONSE from them, and then I will expand the scriptures for you. Or will you be just like the rest and not answer me, and skirt around the issue by asking me more questions? I can't get past, "Doctrine" 101 to move on to better understanding. They all flunked the first semester. You have no idea as to how LARGE the classroom is. It's the bible.
Thank You and God bless Pastor Justin……..great podcast following Awesome Word of God ❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Speaking in tongues (Glossolalia) is also practices by Islam in Sufism, Judaism in some branches of Hasidic Jews and also Indigenous and Shamanistic Traditions.
Interesting! The Mormons also with the Shakers had glossolalia
God bless you, after watching you I became more aware of deception some few years ago. Honestly when your in the movement you cant know unless your exposed, something they discourage. By calling themselves born again they eliminate all other views and they heavily disregard critical thinking whatever i believed was dictated for me and other members, we read so many devotionals that we forgot the bible exists, spiritual authority is only from the pastor. When i first met you on this platform you were of high impact to my life. you have been such a blessing to my life . The work you do reaches even here in Uganda where there is so much chaos but thank you thank you am eternally grateful.
It's too bad that your former Church wouldn't let you think for yourself...I just hope that now you aren't going from " the ridiculous to the sublime" (or from sublime to the RIDICULOUS)......?
THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "is a great last age (age of the word) that He will save man so accept the new and last work by done the Lord Jesus Christ"
"Utterances of Christ's in the Beginning chapter 103". ... (The disasters in the world are intensifying every day, and in My home, the dire disasters are intensifying. Since the change is now taking place, people do not know where they will step next. It will be it is only revealed after My judgment. Remember! These are the steps in My work, and this is the way I work. I speak to My firstborn children in tones of comfort, compassion, and love (because always If I enlighten these people and I will not leave them, because I have appointed them), while I subject people apart from My first-born children to severe judgment, to threats, and to intimidation, making them always afraid until point they are always nervous. Sons of the great red dragon, listen to Me! I came from Zion and incarnated on earth to gain My firstborn sons, to shame your father (these words are addressed to the descendants of the great red dragon), to help My first-born children, and correct the wrongs done to My first-born children. In the past, My children were intimidated and oppressed, and since the Father holds power for the children, My children will return to My loving embrace, never to be intimidated and oppressed again. More importantly, this is the only way that will allow My first born children to reign with Me in power.)
Almighty God said
Disasters in the WORLD ARE INTENSIFYING EVERY DAY, and in My HOME, severe disasters are intensifying. People have REALLY NOTHING to HIDE, NO PLACE they can hide THEMSELVES. Because the CHANGE is HAPPENING NOW, PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHERE they will step NEXT. It will only be revealed after My judgment. Remember! 😪
These are the steps in My work, and this is the way I work. For ALL My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN, I will comfort them one by one, I will RAISE them step by step; as for the servants, I will remove and abandon them one by one. 🙏 ☀️
This is a part of My management plan. After all the servants have been revealed, My firstborn children will also be revealed. (For Me, this is very easy. AFTER THEY HEAR My WORDS, ALL the SERVANTS will gradually retreat BEFORE THE JUDGMENT and threat of My WORDS, and ONLY My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN will be left. 🙏
It is not a voluntary thing nor can it be changed by human will; rather, it is My Spirit personally working.)
This is not a distant event, and you should somehow and must infer it from within this phase of My work and My words. Why I will speak so much and the unpredictability of My expressions is beyond people's understanding. I SPEAK to My FIRST CHILDREN in a TONE of COMFORT, COMPASSION, and LOVE (Because I ALWAYS ILLUMINATE these PEOPLE and NEVER FORSAKE THEM, because I CONSIGNED THEM), as I subject people apart from My firstborn children in severe judgment, in threats, and intimidation, which makes them always afraid to the point where they are always nervous. ☀️
When the situation reaches a certain point, they will escape from this condition (WHEN I DESTROY THE WORLD, these PEOPLE will go to the ETERNAL DEEP), but they will never escape My hand in judgment, and they will never free from this situation. ☀️
This, then, is their judgment; this is their chastisement. On the DAY the FOREIGNERS COME, I WILL REVEAL these PEOPLE one by one. These are the steps in My work.
Now, do you understand the purpose behind My previous utterances of those words? In My opinion, something that has not been fulfilled is also something that has been fulfilled, but something that has been fulfilled does not necessarily mean something that has been achieved. This is because I have My wisdom, and I have My way of doing things, which people really cannot understand. When I have achieved results in this step (when I have revealed all those who are evil against Me), I will start the next step, because My will is unstoppable and no one dares to hinder My plan of management and nothing dares to put obstacles - they must get out of the way!
CHILDREN of the GREAT RED DRAGON, LISTEN TO ME! ☀️
I CAME from ZION and was INCARNATED on WORLD to GET My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN, to SHAME your FATHER (these words are addressed to the descendants of the great red dragon), to HELP My FIRSTBORN CHILDREN, and RECTIFY THE WRONG DONE to My FIRSTborn CHILDREN. ☀️🙏
So DON'T BE CRUEL AGAIN; I WILL LET My ELDERLY CHILDREN fix you. IN THE PAST, My CHILDREN HAVE BEEN FEARED and OPPRESSED, and since the FATHER HOLDS POWER for the CHILDREN, My CHILDREN will RETURN to My LOVING EMBRACE, never to be FEARED and OPPRESSED AGAIN. 🙏💐
I am not unrighteous; It SHOWS My RIGHTEOUSNESS, and it is REALLY "loving what I love and hating what I hate." ☀️
If you say that I am unrighteous, you should hurry away. Do not be shameless and smoke in My home. You should hurry back to your home so I don't have to see you.
The ETERNAL DEPTH is your DESTINY and there you WILL STAY. If you are in My home, there will be no place for you, because you are work animals; you are the tools I use.
When I can no longer use you, I will THROW you into the FIRE to BURN you. These are My administrative assignments; I have to do it this way, and this alone shows how I work and reveal My righteousness and My majesty. MORE IMPORTANTLY, this is the only WAY THAT WILL ALLOW MY FIRSTBORN SONS TO RULE WITH ME IN POWER. 🙏💐
From "The WORD Appears in the Flesh". holy book
Fulfilled in "In the beginning He was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1). ... and "When I looked up, someone handed me a book wrapped in a scroll. I opened it and I read on both sides the prayers, lamentations, and curses." (Ezekiel 2:9-10). ... "His garment was stained with blood. He was called the "Word of God" (Rev. 19:13).
The kingdom He brought down and set up in the highest in the sky so that it can occupy His creation in the universe and engrave on it the entirety of His Holy name "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 fulfillment of (Mat. 16:18) "And I say as for you, you are Peter, on top of this rock I will build my Church, that even the power of death will not prevail over it.". ... and "The Letter to the Church in Philadelphia" (Rev. 3:7-13). ... And fulfillment of "The New Jerusalem" 💫 (Rev. 21:10) "The Spirit enveloped me, and the angel led me to the top of a very high mountain. He showed Me Jerusalem, the Holy City, which coming down from heaven from God."
(1 Peter 4:17) "For the time has come in the house of God for the beginning of judgment in the house of God."
📩 Calling and leading the sheep of God to His glorious Throne "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD"💐 to submit again to His authority so that He will continue to teach, guide and protect even in plague, famine and wild animals will not be moved by it and completely win this final battle with the big red dragon!
"They say with a loud voice, "Salvation comes from the Lamb, and from our God who sits on the Throne!" (Rev. 7:10). ... and it will be fulfilled that will be established above the sky/RUclips in (Isaiah 2: 2 / 9:6) "On the Last Day, the mountain on which Jehovah's temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock there. " . . . "For a baby boy is born to us. The rule will be given to him; and he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace." 💌
Accept the Message of end time Elijah - Rev. 10:1-7 for your salvation of you soul... Time has run out
Joyce Myers says. I'm not a sinner anymore? Anyone who says I have NO sin is a LIAR and there is no TRUTH in them. All have fallen short of his GLORY. Had they been without SIN they WOULDN'T need a SAVIOUR to SAVE THEM! We still SIN. Still fall short. Only time we'll be FREE of ALL SIN is when we receive OUR New Glorified BODY.
JUSTIN. I am a Time Traveller. When I close my eyes and open them I'm 6 - 8 Hrs in the future! Then once a year I go back an hr when the CLOCKS go back, or Hr into the future when Clocks forward!
Hi pastor Justin, thank for your teaching and exposing false preachers. You have been a great help to the body of Christ especially down here in Africa.
God bless you brother.
bro you are even an african, lol, dont you see genuine preachers manifest the gifts of the spirit
@@smithowhorji4204 there are genuine pastors in Africa manifesting the gifts of the Holy Spirit YET the unbeliever rushes to Justin Peters who doesn't believe in healing LOL !
People can't be helped
Thank you for this brother, I left the Pentecostal church my family has been going to for years and they continue to go there. I keep trying to share bible passages and teachings such as yours and the American gospel movies in hopes they see truth and start going deeper in their bibles. Also I wrote a long letter with the issues going on in the Pentecostal denomination to an elder of the church (which is an uphill battle) so I could use prayers. I'm trying to help bring them the truth and discernment all alone and sometimes it's hard but will not stop! Also makes me sad that my grandmother should be teaching me but it's the other way around! 😂
Thank you for all you do and I pray continuously that more people will have their eyes opened and your hard work certainly helps! God bless you and your family brother Justin.
@@sharoncrawford7192 I suppose it all comes down to whether they want to hear truth or not. I pray every day my family and the church body seek after God with all their heart and be in his word, and not just listening to the one in the pulpit.
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Are you a Calvinist now? I couldn't think of anything worse than being a cessationist. You do realise that the charismata has gone into every denomination on the planet?? And that many of Justin Peters heroes speak in tongues.....who are in the same camp as him like John Piper? So you reformed calvinists are all divided. Your truth is not truth to them. And they are right. Good on them for ignoring you.
@@ntlearning John Piper is Charismatic and they have stated publicly they don't agree with him on everything. You are clearly not educated on what you're trying to speak of and even more painfully obvious is you do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling within you. I pray you reach a place of repentance and be saved and receive the Spirit of peace and joy, freeing you from this current state of bitterness.
God bless.
@@ackattack2156 Nice try. But your need for ad hominem shows you already lost the argument because you have no substance.
And you've totally missed the point. Justin Peters, and Co, need to sort their own church out before they (and you) can start preaching to other traditions. You can start with these guys (and its only just a short list, there are lots more).
1. John Piper: A prominent Reformed pastor and theologian, Piper is open to charismatic gifts while holding to Reformed doctrines.
2. Sam Storms: A pastor and author who aligns with Reformed theology and is also open to charismatic practices.
3. Wayne Grudem: A theologian known for his systematic theology work, Grudem is Reformed in his soteriology (doctrine of salvation) and also charismatic.
4. Matt Chandler: The lead pastor of The Village Church in Texas, Chandler holds to Reformed theology and is open to charismatic gifts.
5. Mark Driscoll: Formerly the pastor of Mars Hill Church, Driscoll held to Reformed theology and was also open to charismatic practices.
6. C.J. Mahaney: A pastor and leader in the Sovereign Grace Ministries, Mahaney combines Reformed theology with charismatic beliefs.
7. Terry Virgo: Founder of Newfrontiers, an international network of charismatic churches, Virgo holds to Reformed teachings.
8. Francis Chan: Known for his books and passionate preaching, Chan holds to Reformed theology and is open to charismatic expressions.
9. Tim Keller: While not overtly charismatic, Keller, the founding pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City, holds to Reformed theology and has shown openness to the work of the Holy Spirit in charismatic ways.
10. D.A. Carson: A respected theologian and professor, Carson holds to Reformed theology and has written about the work of the Holy Spirit in a way that's open to charismatic gifts.
And these are just some names from the Reformed tradition. The gifts of the Spirit are moving in Lutheranism, Reformed, Methodism, Anglicanism, Messianic Jews, Baptists, Catholicism and even Orthodoxy and the ana-Baptists. This includes people like NT Wright, one of the greatest Protestant Anglican theologians in the world today to popular Messianic ministries like Rabbi Schneider.
Please educate yourself.
I was an eye-witness to the birth of the Charismatic Renewal in America in the late 1960s to early 1970s, and it was so refreshing and reviving! Now in 2023, however, I am convinced that the "charismatic" churches (at least in my area) have no charisma in them at all. Here where I live they are 99% pop-culture entertainment centers almost totally devoid of any trace of the Holy Spirit's power or presence. My impression is that the Charismatic Movement died years ago, and the only thing left is its name. I weep for the loss of what God was doing among us in those days.
Justin, I escaped from my Pentecostal upbringing through the Holy Spirit's precious and patient wooing over a long period of time. I do agree with you words and thank you for revealing much of the underbelly of the charismatic history. I do wish you would present these truths in a more loving spirit. I don't know maybe it's just me. Be blessed brother.
It was a CNN fake new hit piece. You have people like you saying the Holy Spirit lead me out, then I see other people saying the Holy Spirit lead me into it. I see a lot of good fruit. Justin didn't consider any of that......... that should tell you something.
Are you a Calvinist now?
@@Robert-55 Unfortunately, your argument is defeated by the fact that so many people and pastors in the Reformed tradition are charismatic.
You will need to get rid of half your tribe. 🤣 This is the best example of self-own.
@@Robert-55 How is it that half the Reformed movement is charismatic does not make sense to you? Get your head out of the sand.
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I was years ago involved with the Pentecostal movement and by God’s grace and mercy God showed me the truth of the fallacy of it all.
There is some helpful information, but his dismissive, sarcastic tone detracts. Continuationism vs cessationism is biblical, defensible. Like John MacArthur, going after the lunatic fringe of charismania is not a refutation of a biblical, balanced, classical Pentecostal belief and practice (orthodoxy and orthopraxy in line with Acts; I Cor. properly interpreted and applied).
There are also logical fallacies. The imperfection of men, including Peters, does not mean a belief or practice is automatically false or not from God originally. We need discernment, not throwing the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. I Cor. 12-14 is about the uses and abuses of spiritual gifts, not their supposed cessation (which happens at the end of the Church Age, not the start of it....perfection is the return of Christ when they are no longer needed I Jn. 3:2, not the Catholic closing of the canon....Spirit and Word, both/and vs either/or. Most anti-charismatics do not deny healing (Alliance; A.B. Simpson). It is simply not true that all healings are psycho-somatic or there are no miracles today (see Craig Keener's extensive research). A person dying of something in the end is not an argument against earlier or other miracles. Make an argument, not an assertion that is a non sequitur or ad hominem attacks.
Hinn and Kulhman both wore white so they are basically the same person?! Huh? I wore white at my wedding. Does that make me either one of them?
Egalitarianism vs complementarianism is also a debatable issue among equally godly, capable believers.
Peters and MacArthur have same ideas, so they must be the same person?
Copeland demon possessed? Half crazy, but that is a big accusation without proof or discernment.
The cessationists who grieve and quench the Holy Spirit and have an unbiblical belief and practice should not be exalted. The issue here is attacking the lunatic fringe of charismania and not discerning the biblical, balanced charismata based on sound biblical exegesis, discernment, etc. The classical Pentecostals are also against the charismatic nonsense, but do not throw the baby out with the bath water in a Pharisaical way, attributing the works of the Holy Spirit and Jesus to demons?!
There are better sources for Pentecostal/charismatic history that are less biased than this video. Get some of the books with more detailed research:
www.amazon.com/Cessation-Charismata-Protestant-Post-biblical-Miracles-Revised/dp/0981952623/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3H363OFFQRNVF&keywords=on+the+cessation+of+the+charismata&qid=1684249874&sprefix=on+the+cessation+of+the+charismata%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-1
www.amazon.com/International-Dictionary-Pentecostal-Charismatic-Movements/dp/0310224810/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Y4Y8YGJHB4ON&keywords=the+new+international+dictionary+pentecostal&qid=1684249928&sprefix=the+new+intertaional+dictionary+pentecostal%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-1
Amen. Love this statement of yours: "I Cor. 12-14 is about the uses and abuses of spiritual gifts, not their supposed cessation (which happens at the end of the Church Age, not the start of it....perfection is the return of Christ when they are no longer needed "
They fail to go on to read the following verse from that passage, and just stop at "when the perfect has come," thinking that means the canon is closed, for some strange reason.
"For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face."
What does face to face mean? It is referring to when we see Jesus face to face at his coming."
these guys need to realize that because there are fakes doesnt meant there are not genuine men of god who actually manifest the gifts of the spirit
who do you know, who "manifest the Spirit"? Who do you know, that speak in actual foreign languages, yet unknown to them? Who do you know, who actually raise DEAD PEOPLE from the grave? Or who restore amputated limbs? Or who write Scripture?
Thanks for sharing! This is a good eye opener I wish every Christian who wants to be faithful to God's Word need to hear.
Judge not that you be not judged, Paul thought he was doing the will of God by having Christians killed and it haunted him the rest of his life when he became a Christian himself he later confessed that he found mercy because he did it ignorantly, God looks at the heart the inside not the outside BEWARE OF MURDERING WITH YOUR TONGUE! BLESS AND CURSE NOT! FOR WITH WHAT judgment you judge you shall be judged and what MEASURE YOU METE it shall be measured to you again! Satan is the accuser of the brethren not Christians or God!!!
Hi Justin. I attend a Wesleyan Church and I’ve never heard of John Wesley believing in a second experience or total sanctification. We believe in striving for holiness but we understand and accept the fact that it won’t happen on this side of heaven. We just don’t believe in taking grace for granted and running head first into sin every chance you get.
I've been in the Wesleyan Methodist church for over 40 years and John Wesley did teach we should strive to be Holy as the LORD is Holy and it is a progression over a life time or can be a special sanctification to preach the gospel.
I have personally witnessed this. Remember that the enemy will always copycat the real because satan wants to be God. So there is a real santification of the Holy Spirit and there is a false. The false has been soooo prevalent in the last century.
I believe there was a 1st century special outpouring of the Holy Spirit as the book of Acts records and among those were the speaking of different kinds of languages. In that upper room at pentecost where Jesus said to "Wait until the Holy Spirit comes upon you," were 120 men and woman and one of them was Mary the LORD's mother. They ALL prophesied and spoke in different languages to proclaim the gospel. If any man or woman says that men and woman cannot do this is sadly misled and mistaken.
But today's so called (speaking in tongues is just a circus and raises the hair on on'e body). I have also personally experienced and witnessed this. Whenever I hear it or unknowingly stumble upon it, The real Holy Spirit says pray against the evil presence. It happened in my church just a month ago 2 wolves checking out the church sitting right behind me started that stupid gibberish, repeating the same syllables over and over and very strongly I was lead to rebuke it. That's the Holy Spirit I know!
@@RisenShine-zy7dn Yes, we STRIVE but we will never be totally perfect.
Justin gets it wrong on several points about Pentecostals too in this video. I’ve never heard of these people from the past, and certainly never heard them being revered as fathers of the Pentecostal faith and I’ve been Pentecostal all my life. Some of the more modern people I’ve heard of but they were never people whose teaching we followed or who’s doctrine was part of our church doctrine. A lot of what he says is used for sensationalism to help Calvinists feel justified in their belief system.
@@deejay7759 Yes, hyper calvinism.
Also he mentioned Charles Wesley while talking as if he got the two brothers confused.
The gift of the Holy Ghost with speaking in tongues is real. Satin has a counterfeit. If you have never had the real Holy Ghost with tongues don't speak against it.
Satin??
Tongues stopped being given about 66 AD. If God no longer gives them, and He doesn't, who is giving you your tongues? Read The Charismatic Chaos by John MacArthur. A truly enlightened study on today's false tongues.
About 8 to 10 years ago, I was watching every preacher from every denomination, and I attended a pentecostal church, 2 of them to be exact. I always wondered why I couldn't speak in tongues, and I was searching for more faith maybe. I was actually told by someone that all saved people spoke in tongues. I ended up watching you, Todd Friel, and Walter Martin and realized the error of my ways. Thank you.
Check out Charles Lawson. Wonderful truthful man of God.
I’m sorry someone misrepresented the fullness of God to you, and that’s totally wrong. You can be saved and not speak in tongues. Way too many examples in the Bible. But fellow believer in Christ, don’t walk away from what the Bible actually teaches because of your bad experience. The gifts are still in operation today, and God still moves the same way as He did back then.
Read Acts 1-3
Instead you should read the Bible.
No, I'm pentecostal. Speaking in Tongues has nothing to do with salvation. I would slap those Pentecostals if I met them. Our message has always been "are you born again?"
I was watching an episode of Sids, "Its Supernatural, " and he was talking to a guy who claimed he could hear from God, words of knowledge about people with specific sicknesses and ailments.
I personally believe God CAN talk to people, but with this guy, I was rolling my eyes. I thought, how easy it is to just make up.whayrver you want and appear so Godly
I praise God for your research work, brother Justin! Thank you for the outstanding work that you do❤❤❤