This video is a UP fan's dream. The yellow monsters are really great here. I especially like the transformer carrier train. Oversize loads are always exciting. The landscape is beautiful everywhere. The different rock formations are indeed awesome. The vegetation is nice and green, even in the middle of summer. I assume the weather was pretty hot in Utah. Fantastic footage again Dan. Your uploads never disappoints.
I thought you would like this one! Yeah how neat was that transformer train? Totally caught me by surprise. It is quite a magnificent region for sure. It was quite a warm day this day. This was the first day I started making my way home back to Oregon after all the 4014 chasing.
After a very long day at work, I've been looking forward to watching today with a nice glass of wine. Putting my feet up and settled in to enjoy. 💜🍷Thanks again for posting every week, I really look forward to them Just about finished up... Such beautiful scenery, colors & rock formations! You always pick the best music too!! Oh and the trains 😉 We spotted you a few times 😁....the ENDING! The BEST! 😀
Well this was a treat...beautiful scenery, great music and of course "The Trains"...Loved the drag race towards the end and it's funny the longer train won! I thought the UP's were looking pretty raggedy but they were pulling great. I watched another of your videos from 5 years ago right after this one and the contrast of locos was amazing...a beautiful black Southern Pacific and a bright orange Albany Eastern, both looking like they just left the factory...I just thought contrast between the first video locos and the next one was cool...Love all your videos...Thank you for all your hard work...Happy Holidays!!
Thanks so much and woohoo glad you enjoyed a couple! I was so excited I captured that race at the end! Not too common of a thing to catch on camera. Yes the Albany & Eastern Railroad really takes pride in their locomotives and keeps them very clean. Happy Holidays to you as well!
Growing up Californian and having most of my relatives living in Wyoming and Montana, we passed through The Weber River and Echo Canyons. There was (if it isn’t still there) a rest stop on I80 at Echo Junction where my dad would stop to get some sleep, it was neat to listen to the trains pass by even if all I could see was the headlights and the rooftop flashers. I know I’m showing my age, but I do remember passing through before I80 was completed.
Firstly absolutely beautiful and stunning terrain in this video 📹, would like go hear the rolling stock more with the drone, do any commuter trains do these routes?? Wow can't get over how the freight trains 🚆 carve there way through the rock formations, this was a brilliant and very cool 😎 watch enjoyed it immensely, great job 👍
Dan, you got me foaming at the mouth with that race at the end. This one is special, as last March we traveled through here when we moved from the Great Northwest to Burlington, Iowa. Hey, I didn't see the sensor spot in your field camera this time. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Another outstanding video Dan. Great variety and some special catches: The first stack train with all-SD power (rare); the high/wide train(interesting to listen to dispatcher when they are controlling these movements to assure clearances); the crude oil trains empty and loaded-I can remember when there was enough feed stock for the 5 Wasatch Range refineries coming from Utah-not any more; lastly the most “selfies” of you that I’ve seen in one video. Taggarts-we parked our motorhome one night at that parking area next to the twin bridges just east of the tunnels/great spot, little sleep.Wishing you a very merry and blessed Christmas!
Thanks so much Bill! Yeah only SD power is very rare anymore so that was cool. Oh nice that's a great spot to park and stay overnight. Merry Christmas to you!
Dan, thank you for another excellent video with Union Pacific trains traveling through the breathtaking scenery of Echo Canyon in Utah. Your drone footage was superb. The train that appeared at 33:18 with the three transformers was a bonus. (Posted on 22 December 2024 at 0040 CST.)
Happy to help. Some day I may just find you parked along the roadway, and stop and say Hello! Always got my eye open for headlights and your car…..Chief Skehan
Thank you RfDan. At 3:37 the UP train is shown at a crossing. At 4:14 the train start to sound the whistle for the crossing, two longs a short and another long. Thank you for going back and now editing the proper crossing sound in the drone shots you share with us. The sound of the electric horn in this video makes me appreciate the sound of the three chime steam whistle of the 4014. Merry Christmas to you.
Another great video Dan. Many thanks mate. Have a great Christmas and New Year. I guess yours will be a tad chilly. Here in Canberra forecast is a warm 32 deg C (90 deg F).
Wow Charles thank you so much this is very generous of you! This will help for future productions! It's a bit of a lul right now with the wet Winter weather but that is only temporary! Thank you my friend!
absolutely awesome, great capture mountains are so majestic and grand I found myself not watching the train and looking at the mountain side looking for a place to hike up. I think I saw you on top of a tunnel 9:45 mark. Ever venture into one of the abandoned tunnels? I also wondered about the ‘cut thru’ versus the tunnel. Must of moved s lot of earth to make cut-thru not to mention the maintenance of keeping the tracks clear from washouts? I imagine the tunnel was abandoned due to its limiting size? Thanks
Thanks so much! Yes me at that timestamp which is where the ground video was shot from there. I have been in some abandoned tunnels before but not that one.
Stunning images Dan! One of the most evocative US railroad images I have seen is a photo by Elliot Erwitt titled "Wyoming 1954". Look it up, it looks like a Challenger making heavy work of a train. Are you able to identify the location, I can't, but the grain silos may provide a clue Erwitt noted that his family were travelling from New York to San Francisco, when he took the photo out of the back window of the family car, that might give a clue as to the route.
FYI, the downhill grade is 1.7% on the original mainline. In 1916 they added the "modern" mainline which they use for uphill trains. It's grade is only 1.14%
I kind of wondered if I would see a comment from you on this one! 🙂 That is good info thank you! I knew a little about that but not exactly everything.
Just a few seconds in and we are reminded of the shortcomings of electrification, How do you stack containers two high with overhead electrification, ? You could use the front top container to rip down the lines or stick the cables up SO high that they would have to be held up by a monkey standing on the head of a giraffe standing on the back of an elephant and that might STILL not be high enough.
Run a battery boxcar behind the locos, charge it with the dynamic brakes, use it in the tunnel. Most of the time you're in the tunnel one end of the train or the other will be outside and can be connected to an electrical line as well.
@@danowens9627 Very good but my comment concerned the monstrous cost (and ugliness) of the gantries that would be necessary over thousands of miles of track to accommodate the heighth of the wagon bed above the track, 20 ft of container on top of container on top of that + the clearance above the highest parts of the train to prevent short-circuiting. Many Indians become flaming torches riding on the roofs of carriages on the Mumbai suburban railways in damp weather. Teenage boys are frequently victims when they stand up to get off. It was fine last year when he were only 4ft 9 inches tall but yesterday he achieved 5ft 2 inches tall and completed the circuit. They are not supposed to be up there .... but they are in huge numbers (ticket inspectors don't go up there) and hardly a day goes by without one of them reaching the required height. Suitable clearance is therefor necessary, hence the monkey holding up the cables whilst balancing on the head of a giraffe, the giraffe standing on the back of the elephant. Overhead electrification means no more stacked containers. At the moment, when the trains aren't there, all that may be seen is the track. Overhead cabling to permit two high containers would be there ALL the time and would be GROSSLY ugly and EXTREMELY expensive to install AND to maintain .... and, as we know from recent bridge and damn collapses, Americans are not very good at maintenance.
@@terryhoath1983 Ah, I see. Well, I mean the the same was said of the railroads themselves back in the 19th century- they were ugly and too expensive to build and would never make money (and, of course, many of them did not). There are plenty of countries where catenary wires are the norm, and certainly they work fine in the NE corridor. Railroads do run double stacks in the NE corridor (with diesel locos, obviously). All things are possible, it's just cost and a willingness to accept change. It's tragic anyone gets killed riding on the roof of a train, but we somehow accept 30K people dying in car accidents here in the US and ignore really obvious safety solution (better road design, for one). And if the railroad doesn't maintain the wires, then I suppose they won't make any money on that route. Of course, they'll want government to pay for it, but that's true of all big corporations everywhere. I've wondered for years about the possibility of running boxcars full of lithium ion batteries (re)charged by dynamic brakes, I wish I could find a good article or video addressing the concept. I did listen to a podcast where a rail engineer talked about a run out where I live in Eastern Washington that is a consistent descent to the Snake/Columbia River. He calculated you could run the entire route downhill in dynamics and then (in theory) have enough battery power to run the empties all the way back to the starting point. That would be cool.
@@danowens9627 Certainly, from their earliest days, railways have been grossly ugly, deep cuttings, ugly viaducts, obstruction of highways, smoke and filth etc. The problem with your idea of entire box cars full of lithium ion batteries are twofold. 1 We have seen the effect of the batteries of electric cars catching fire in confined spaces (underground car parks ... even the tops of multistorey car parks ... Luton and Liverpool in Britain). We saw the results of a fire in the Channel Tunnel (Dover-Calais) a number of years back started by the freight on a single lorry, the tunnel closed for 3 months. I hate to think what a thermal runaway in an entire wagon or two of lithium ion batteries would do in a tunnel. 2. in America, all the extra electricity that is used for running EVs and electrified railways (as is true across most of the World) is produced by the burning of COAL. Even those countries which have stopped burning coal for electricity production (Spain, a couple of years ago, Britain a few months ago) burn gas or wood chips. Wood chips means a lot of diesel and petrol in getting the wood chips from forest to power station. In the case of Britain, the use of wood chips at Drax, our biggest power station involved ships making a 28,000 mile round trip (there is no return cargo) from British Columbia burning heavy fuel oil emitting 3,500 times more sulphur into the atmosphere gallon for gallon than I am permitted to emit from the diesel that I burn in my car. With huge distances of these mountain zone railways running at very high elevations with extremely cold temperatures, even in the Summer when the Sun goes down in clear skies, the batteries would be next to useless. The regenerative braking of which you write sounds reasonable except that power is still required on much of the downhill. More power is required to descend than could be generated with braking so there would be none left for the return uphill. If power downhill wasn't needed, these massive diesel or oil burning engines could be turned off for the descent ... but they aren't, are they. ? The engines still need to overcome the friction from the bearings and wheel to rail friction, the power to keep the wheels turning and .... resistance from the air. Unless you have invented perpetual motion, your suggestion is a physical impossibility. Also, unlike cars and lorries, very little braking is required on railways. A conversion that could be made on these remote tracks would be to convert the locomotives to run on natural gas, far, far cleaner that the dirty filthy oil used by the trains featured here, and that dirty filthy oil is still cleaner than the burning of coal to produce the electricity for your battery wagons. Again the point of my comment was about the impracticality of overhead electricity if containers are to be carried two high. Electrification allowing single containers is expensive and ugly enough. All best wishes to you.
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What amazing catch’s of both trains/scenery! So beautiful on each account! Thanks for sharing!! Love the UNION PACIFIC-BUILDING AMERICA🇺🇸
This video is a UP fan's dream. The yellow monsters are really great here. I especially like the transformer carrier train. Oversize loads are always exciting. The landscape is beautiful everywhere. The different rock formations are indeed awesome. The vegetation is nice and green, even in the middle of summer. I assume the weather was pretty hot in Utah. Fantastic footage again Dan. Your uploads never disappoints.
I thought you would like this one! Yeah how neat was that transformer train? Totally caught me by surprise. It is quite a magnificent region for sure. It was quite a warm day this day. This was the first day I started making my way home back to Oregon after all the 4014 chasing.
Beautiful country side. Dan keep doing what you do. 👏 😮 7:28 am
After a very long day at work, I've been looking forward to watching today with a nice glass of wine. Putting my feet up and settled in to enjoy. 💜🍷Thanks again for posting every week, I really look forward to them
Just about finished up... Such beautiful scenery, colors & rock formations! You always pick the best music too!!
Oh and the trains 😉
We spotted you a few times 😁....the ENDING! The BEST! 😀
Well great I'm glad you could end your day no a high note with this! So glad you look forward to them. I know what and ending huh?! Too lucky!
Well this was a treat...beautiful scenery, great music and of course "The Trains"...Loved the drag race towards the end and it's funny the longer train won! I thought the UP's were looking pretty raggedy but they were pulling great. I watched another of your videos from 5 years ago right after this one and the contrast of locos was amazing...a beautiful black Southern Pacific and a bright orange Albany Eastern, both looking like they just left the factory...I just thought contrast between the first video locos and the next one was cool...Love all your videos...Thank you for all your hard work...Happy Holidays!!
Thanks so much and woohoo glad you enjoyed a couple! I was so excited I captured that race at the end! Not too common of a thing to catch on camera. Yes the Albany & Eastern Railroad really takes pride in their locomotives and keeps them very clean. Happy Holidays to you as well!
as usual, great flying! Also, just the right amount of narration. Well done Dan!
Thank you!
Fun video. This is our neighborhood where we live. We see and hear the trains all the time. Nice to learn a little more about them.
Oh cool!
Lucky you!!
Yet another masterpiece! Echo Canyon is one of my favorite locations.
Thanks Bill! First time getting to really spend time there.
Growing up Californian and having most of my relatives living in Wyoming and Montana, we passed through The Weber River and Echo Canyons. There was (if it isn’t still there) a rest stop on I80 at Echo Junction where my dad would stop to get some sleep, it was neat to listen to the trains pass by even if all I could see was the headlights and the rooftop flashers. I know I’m showing my age, but I do remember passing through before I80 was completed.
Fantastic images that your eyes look at. Your videos are authentic Poetry! thank you for these gifts that I appreciate so much. Congratulations
Thanks so much Carlo!
I enjoy all your videos. I alsol get great ideas for my model railroad. this is a first for me. The first to comment. Thanks for all your hard work.
That's great and yeah I hear that from several folks at times. It would be pretty helpful for modeling. Thanks for enjoying!
Firstly absolutely beautiful and stunning terrain in this video 📹, would like go hear the rolling stock more with the drone, do any commuter trains do these routes?? Wow can't get over how the freight trains 🚆 carve there way through the rock formations, this was a brilliant and very cool 😎 watch enjoyed it immensely, great job 👍
Thanks Trevor! Unfortunately no passenger trains on this route. So glad you enjoyed!
Dan, you got me foaming at the mouth with that race at the end. This one is special, as last March we traveled through here when we moved from the Great Northwest to Burlington, Iowa. Hey, I didn't see the sensor spot in your field camera this time. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Ha nice I was foaming at the mouth for that race too let me tell ya! It's a great road trip through there for sure. Merry Christmas to you Michael!
I really enjoyed the music and the Video. 😊😊😊 Another fine job,Echo canyon is a great place for catching Trains. Brewske !
Thanks again so so much Bruce! Yes I agree. This was my first time giving a solid amount of time there and I'm pretty glad with all that I got.
Outstanding videography, you are the complete master of drone photography, thank you for your hard work
Well that is a high compliment so thank you very much!
Another outstanding video Dan. Great variety and some special catches: The first stack train with all-SD power (rare); the high/wide train(interesting to listen to dispatcher when they are controlling these movements to assure clearances); the crude oil trains empty and loaded-I can remember when there was enough feed stock for the 5 Wasatch Range refineries coming from Utah-not any more; lastly the most “selfies” of you that I’ve seen in one video. Taggarts-we parked our motorhome one night at that parking area next to the twin bridges just east of the tunnels/great spot, little sleep.Wishing you a very merry and blessed Christmas!
Thanks so much Bill! Yeah only SD power is very rare anymore so that was cool. Oh nice that's a great spot to park and stay overnight. Merry Christmas to you!
That Match Race was really cool and I have never seen it either !!!
Awesome video Dan. As I am building a large 2200 sq ft HO Layout on the Evanston Subdivision, it is of great interest to me. Well done!
Another great presentation Dan. One bit of music is now on my Spotify play list.
Oh that's great!
Excellent, always good footage by you.
That sure was a sweet share there Dan! The action and scenery were breath taking, I enjoyed that! Cheers! (Dave).
Thanks so much Dave!
@TheRailfanDan you're very welcome.
Dan, thank you for another excellent video with Union Pacific trains traveling through the breathtaking scenery of Echo Canyon in Utah. Your drone footage was superb. The train that appeared at 33:18 with the three transformers was a bonus. (Posted on 22 December 2024 at 0040 CST.)
Thank you my friend! Yeah that transformer train was quite the bonus and really caught me by surprise when I first saw it.
Incredible video Dan. I'm fortunate to live fairly close to Echo canyon. The scenery and the history in the canyon is amazing
Thank you and yes that is fortunate!
great video sir ❤❤😍😍
You the MAN, DAN! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ha thank you Vincent!
Me encanta mirarlo
Estoy completamente de acuerdo
Happy to help. Some day I may just find you parked along the roadway, and stop and say Hello! Always got my eye open for headlights and your car…..Chief Skehan
That would be so great! Hopefully one day.
great Video Dan 👍🤟 Merry Christmas 🎄
Thank you and Merry Christmas!
Thank you RfDan. At 3:37 the UP train is shown at a crossing. At 4:14 the train start to sound the whistle for the crossing, two longs a short and another long. Thank you for going back and now editing the proper crossing sound in the drone shots you share with us. The sound of the electric horn in this video makes me appreciate the sound of the three chime steam whistle of the 4014. Merry Christmas to you.
That is from the ground camera with sound recored from that actual video clip. No sound added there! Merry Christmas.
THANK YOU
Another awesome job Dan, that oil train must have been emptied with nothing on the rear. Have a good Christmas thanks for the great videos.
Gary
Yes I believe it was empty. Thank you and Merry Christmas!
Another great video Dan. Many thanks mate. Have a great Christmas and New Year. I guess yours will be a tad chilly. Here in Canberra forecast is a warm 32 deg C (90 deg F).
I really enjoy your videos. It's interesting that the communication pole lines in some sections are still in place.
Thank you! Yes it is interesting.
16:00 That junkyard is the coolest! Looks like a horror movie set!!
Ha yeah!
Best Video maker ever !
Thank you Becky! 😁
Thanks!
Wow Charles thank you so much this is very generous of you! This will help for future productions! It's a bit of a lul right now with the wet Winter weather but that is only temporary! Thank you my friend!
As always awesome video!!!🇺🇸
absolutely awesome, great capture
mountains are so majestic and grand
I found myself not watching the train and looking at the mountain side looking for a place to hike up.
I think I saw you on top of a tunnel 9:45 mark. Ever venture into one of the abandoned tunnels?
I also wondered about the ‘cut thru’ versus the tunnel. Must of moved s lot of earth to make cut-thru not to mention the maintenance of keeping the tracks clear from washouts? I imagine the tunnel was abandoned due to its limiting size?
Thanks
Thanks so much! Yes me at that timestamp which is where the ground video was shot from there. I have been in some abandoned tunnels before but not that one.
Stunning images Dan! One of the most evocative US railroad images I have seen is a photo by Elliot Erwitt titled "Wyoming 1954". Look it up, it looks like a Challenger making heavy work of a train. Are you able to identify the location, I can't, but the grain silos may provide a clue Erwitt noted that his family were travelling from New York to San Francisco, when he took the photo out of the back window of the family car, that might give a clue as to the route.
Thanks so much! I'm not sure where that photo is. It's a nice one though!
FYI, the downhill grade is 1.7% on the original mainline. In 1916 they added the "modern" mainline which they use for uphill trains. It's grade is only 1.14%
I kind of wondered if I would see a comment from you on this one! 🙂 That is good info thank you! I knew a little about that but not exactly everything.
So many SD70ACe. Are they used especially in that area of UP or is it just a happy coincidence?
Happy coincidence I believe.
Just a few seconds in and we are reminded of the shortcomings of electrification, How do you stack containers two high with overhead electrification, ? You could use the front top container to rip down the lines or stick the cables up SO high that they would have to be held up by a monkey standing on the head of a giraffe standing on the back of an elephant and that might STILL not be high enough.
Run a battery boxcar behind the locos, charge it with the dynamic brakes, use it in the tunnel. Most of the time you're in the tunnel one end of the train or the other will be outside and can be connected to an electrical line as well.
@@danowens9627 Very good but my comment concerned the monstrous cost (and ugliness) of the gantries that would be necessary over thousands of miles of track to accommodate the heighth of the wagon bed above the track, 20 ft of container on top of container on top of that + the clearance above the highest parts of the train to prevent short-circuiting. Many Indians become flaming torches riding on the roofs of carriages on the Mumbai suburban railways in damp weather. Teenage boys are frequently victims when they stand up to get off. It was fine last year when he were only 4ft 9 inches tall but yesterday he achieved 5ft 2 inches tall and completed the circuit. They are not supposed to be up there .... but they are in huge numbers (ticket inspectors don't go up there) and hardly a day goes by without one of them reaching the required height. Suitable clearance is therefor necessary, hence the monkey holding up the cables whilst balancing on the head of a giraffe, the giraffe standing on the back of the elephant. Overhead electrification means no more stacked containers. At the moment, when the trains aren't there, all that may be seen is the track. Overhead cabling to permit two high containers would be there ALL the time and would be GROSSLY ugly and EXTREMELY expensive to install AND to maintain .... and, as we know from recent bridge and damn collapses, Americans are not very good at maintenance.
@@terryhoath1983 Ah, I see. Well, I mean the the same was said of the railroads themselves back in the 19th century- they were ugly and too expensive to build and would never make money (and, of course, many of them did not). There are plenty of countries where catenary wires are the norm, and certainly they work fine in the NE corridor. Railroads do run double stacks in the NE corridor (with diesel locos, obviously). All things are possible, it's just cost and a willingness to accept change. It's tragic anyone gets killed riding on the roof of a train, but we somehow accept 30K people dying in car accidents here in the US and ignore really obvious safety solution (better road design, for one). And if the railroad doesn't maintain the wires, then I suppose they won't make any money on that route. Of course, they'll want government to pay for it, but that's true of all big corporations everywhere.
I've wondered for years about the possibility of running boxcars full of lithium ion batteries (re)charged by dynamic brakes, I wish I could find a good article or video addressing the concept. I did listen to a podcast where a rail engineer talked about a run out where I live in Eastern Washington that is a consistent descent to the Snake/Columbia River. He calculated you could run the entire route downhill in dynamics and then (in theory) have enough battery power to run the empties all the way back to the starting point. That would be cool.
@@danowens9627 Certainly, from their earliest days, railways have been grossly ugly, deep cuttings, ugly viaducts, obstruction of highways, smoke and filth etc. The problem with your idea of entire box cars full of lithium ion batteries are twofold. 1 We have seen the effect of the batteries of electric cars catching fire in confined spaces (underground car parks ... even the tops of multistorey car parks ... Luton and Liverpool in Britain). We saw the results of a fire in the Channel Tunnel (Dover-Calais) a number of years back started by the freight on a single lorry, the tunnel closed for 3 months. I hate to think what a thermal runaway in an entire wagon or two of lithium ion batteries would do in a tunnel. 2. in America, all the extra electricity that is used for running EVs and electrified railways (as is true across most of the World) is produced by the burning of COAL. Even those countries which have stopped burning coal for electricity production (Spain, a couple of years ago, Britain a few months ago) burn gas or wood chips. Wood chips means a lot of diesel and petrol in getting the wood chips from forest to power station. In the case of Britain, the use of wood chips at Drax, our biggest power station involved ships making a 28,000 mile round trip (there is no return cargo) from British Columbia burning heavy fuel oil emitting 3,500 times more sulphur into the atmosphere gallon for gallon than I am permitted to emit from the diesel that I burn in my car. With huge distances of these mountain zone railways running at very high elevations with extremely cold temperatures, even in the Summer when the Sun goes down in clear skies, the batteries would be next to useless.
The regenerative braking of which you write sounds reasonable except that power is still required on much of the downhill. More power is required to descend than could be generated with braking so there would be none left for the return uphill. If power downhill wasn't needed, these massive diesel or oil burning engines could be turned off for the descent ... but they aren't, are they. ? The engines still need to overcome the friction from the bearings and wheel to rail friction, the power to keep the wheels turning and .... resistance from the air. Unless you have invented perpetual motion, your suggestion is a physical impossibility. Also, unlike cars and lorries, very little braking is required on railways.
A conversion that could be made on these remote tracks would be to convert the locomotives to run on natural gas, far, far cleaner that the dirty filthy oil used by the trains featured here, and that dirty filthy oil is still cleaner than the burning of coal to produce the electricity for your battery wagons.
Again the point of my comment was about the impracticality of overhead electricity if containers are to be carried two high. Electrification allowing single containers is expensive and ugly enough. All best wishes to you.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Thanks!
Bruce! You're too kind my friend! This is so much appreciated and very much helps for future endeavours.