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I bought some .45 auto rim cases for this type of load. The downside to the auto rim is the rim is thicker than the .45 colt. I have to turn the rims down to fit the colt. I guess I need some of these special cases!
Is the crimp dye designed to crimp brass that short? If it’s a taper crimp, the taper would occur further up inside the die. I think the body of the die is grabbing the oversized billet before a crimp occurs and is pulling it back out on the downstroke.
It’s a 45acp crimp die. So it crimps the short brass. I think it’s the bullet design cause I don’t have an issue with any other bullets. Thanks for watching.
I prefer using the Lee Factory Collet Style crimp die over their Factory Carbide Style crimp dies. The Lee Factory Collet Style is light years ahead of normal crimp dies, and the Lee Factory Carbide Style Crimp die is basically a half gimmick die that tries to fix what the none gimmick half messes up. The non gimmick half is just like the rest of the crimp dies on the market that have issues if overly pressed upon. The Factory Collet Style crimp die has solved the problem with out employing a gimmick. And it is better to stop having a problem than to keep having it and then try and fix it with the gimmick. One is far ahead of the game if they just use the Lee Factory Collet Style crimp dies, in both Profile/Roll and Taper, and forget about it.
I'm kinda ignorant about this, so is the 'gimmick' the carbide sizer? If so it seems to have helped me when my lead bullet doesn't seat straight and creates a bulge in the case preventing it passing the ammo check test using a Lyman ammo checker. Although this is not a crimp issue so the gimmick must be different? I'm confused and that's not a good place to be in!
@@johnh4957 According to Lee, the Carbide sizer straightens the case back up when the crimp bulges the case from the downward force of the die. The Collect Style crimp die does not apply downward pressure but rather inward pressure of which does not buckle the case creating a bulge that would then need ironing out. So being the carbide part of the die fixes what the downward pressure crimp part messes up, I call it a gimmick of sorts because it does not really solve the problem, but rather patches it over. All that work hardening the brass is not good either. Better to just not cause an issue as apposed to patching it back up I would think. Again The Lee Factory Collect Style crimp die never buckles the case whereby never needing to fix its own fuct-ups, as the downward forcing Lee Factory Carbide Style crimp dies do. Ergo with the Collect Style crimp dies there is never a need for the carbide ring, period. So if you see my point being Lee has the Collet Style crimp dies why would they sell a crimp die that messes up the brass only to turn around and solve its own issues, other than to act as if it is the crimp die of crimp dies of sort that everyone should have(?). That is why I call it a gimmick crimp die. Makes no sense when the Collet Style crimp die exist, right? Be sure and watch Lee's own videos on their Factory Carbide Style crimp dies: 1) ruclips.net/video/0rjlUH25DyM/видео.html And their Factory Collet Style crimp dies (of which they have both Profile/Roll and a Taper types): 2) ruclips.net/video/vo7p4k36swI/видео.html
@@thetexasrat hey thanks! I always want to learn more(hadn't heard about the collet crimp before this), and wow the links are great for me to do that! have a great day.
WARNING: Pressure in the 45 ACP is far greater than that of the 45 Colt pistols. Not good to use 45 Auto data with cartridges to be use in 45 Colt guns. 45 ACP max pressure 21,000 psi 45 Colt max pressure 14,000 psi/14,000 CUP [disclaimer: every thing here below is for educational use only!] CAUTION: If one proceeds in this endeavor they should get the most helpful "Midway USA LoadMap 45 ACP" in order to be able to choose a safe powder charge to consider. As some starting charges are well over the 14000 PSI of the 45 Colt. See the Alliant Bullseye load data on page 70, in the USA LoadMap 45 ACP, to see just what could happen if one simply willy nillingly picks out any old 45 Auto load data and tries it out in the Cowboy 45 Special cartridges, as this starting load is way over safe working pressures of the 45 Colt. Also never go anywhere near the medium charge weight load data, as many of the medium charge weights for the 45 Auto are above the 14,000 psi of the 45 Colt gun's working pressure too. And keep in mind that any load near the 14,000 psi range would defeat the whole reason behind the Cowboy 45 Special case for shooting light loads! And while the 45 Auto Rim and Cowboy 45 Special are just a few thousandths of an inch different in length and diameter the 45 Auto Rim's maximum rating of 15,000 CUP [lower than the that of the 45 Auto] is still higher than that of the 45 Colt, so while the starting loads for the 45 Auto Rim can be used in the Cowboy 45 Special cases, the maximum 45 Auto Rim loads will still generate unsafe pressures. Always start low and work up with caution. And keep in mind you should be shooting for a light load in the first place. But why play around with fire? Below are proven safe and effective load data for the Cowboy 45 Special cartridge. [again: this is for educational use only!] Yes Actual Cowboy 45 Special load data can be found in the 17th edition of "Cartridges Of The World", page 486: And on these notes I hope y'all have a blast! The Good kind that is.
@@jesseboutdoorsreloading So you are just using the low end of 45 ACP data, without actually explaining this to the audience. You actually said in the video that others could use 45 ACP load data for the Cowboy 45 Special cartridges, of which could get them into big trouble if they do not know when to stop, like you do. Disclaimers aside, you should be more specific about stuff that is as serious as this is. Please go back and add a ticker tape to this video with the warning that one is not to use the mid to high end of the 45 Auto load data as the 45 Colt guns can not handle the pressures before somebody out there gets hurt.
@@thetexasrat I have a disclaimer in the beginning of the video not to use my load data. I’ll have to wait till I get to a computer to do anything else.
@@jesseboutdoorsreloading Yes you said not to use your load data that you picked for yourself, but you did not tell them just why you chose such a low charge weight, nor did you explain the hazards that would come with choosing higher charge weights. So now it is cool that no one can sue you if they end up hurting themselves off of your incomplete instructional advise. And I surely hope that you get to a computer before some one with little understanding decides to try out your advise of where to get load data from for the Cowboy 45 Special rounds. I hope you understand I am not trying to be mean or a know it all, just wanting every one to be safe with full knowledge of what they'll be getting into is all.
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Neat stuff, I just started shooting and loading 45 Colt, and never saw these rounds before. Thanks Jesse
Yes there’s not much on these rounds and that intrigues me. Stareline just made more brass and I got a 100 of theirs now. More videos will be coming.
Jesse. Good video. Thanks for sharing it all. Take care.
Thanks for watching.
I bought some .45 auto rim cases for this type of load. The downside to the auto rim is the rim is thicker than the .45 colt. I have to turn the rims down to fit the colt. I guess I need some of these special cases!
Yep these go right in a 45 colt.
That was crazy
Tell me about it 🤣
Is the crimp dye designed to crimp brass that short?
If it’s a taper crimp, the taper would occur further up inside the die.
I think the body of the die is grabbing the oversized billet before a crimp occurs and is pulling it back out on the downstroke.
It’s a 45acp crimp die. So it crimps the short brass. I think it’s the bullet design cause I don’t have an issue with any other bullets. Thanks for watching.
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I prefer using the Lee Factory Collet Style crimp die over their Factory Carbide Style crimp dies. The Lee Factory Collet Style is light years ahead of normal crimp dies, and the Lee Factory Carbide Style Crimp die is basically a half gimmick die that tries to fix what the none gimmick half messes up. The non gimmick half is just like the rest of the crimp dies on the market that have issues if overly pressed upon. The Factory Collet Style crimp die has solved the problem with out employing a gimmick. And it is better to stop having a problem than to keep having it and then try and fix it with the gimmick. One is far ahead of the game if they just use the Lee Factory Collet Style crimp dies, in both Profile/Roll and Taper, and forget about it.
I know the collet one for rifles works good. Thanks for watching.
I'm kinda ignorant about this, so is the 'gimmick' the carbide sizer? If so it seems to have helped me when my lead bullet doesn't seat straight and creates a bulge in the case preventing it passing the ammo check test using a Lyman ammo checker. Although this is not a crimp issue so the gimmick must be different? I'm confused and that's not a good place to be in!
@@johnh4957 According to Lee, the Carbide sizer straightens the case back up when the crimp bulges the case from the downward force of the die. The Collect Style crimp die does not apply downward pressure but rather inward pressure of which does not buckle the case creating a bulge that would then need ironing out. So being the carbide part of the die fixes what the downward pressure crimp part messes up, I call it a gimmick of sorts because it does not really solve the problem, but rather patches it over. All that work hardening the brass is not good either. Better to just not cause an issue as apposed to patching it back up I would think.
Again The Lee Factory Collect Style crimp die never buckles the case whereby never needing to fix its own fuct-ups, as the downward forcing Lee Factory Carbide Style crimp dies do. Ergo with the Collect Style crimp dies there is never a need for the carbide ring, period. So if you see my point being Lee has the Collet Style crimp dies why would they sell a crimp die that messes up the brass only to turn around and solve its own issues, other than to act as if it is the crimp die of crimp dies of sort that everyone should have(?). That is why I call it a gimmick crimp die. Makes no sense when the Collet Style crimp die exist, right?
Be sure and watch Lee's own videos on their Factory Carbide Style crimp dies:
1) ruclips.net/video/0rjlUH25DyM/видео.html
And their Factory Collet Style crimp dies (of which they have both Profile/Roll and a Taper types):
2) ruclips.net/video/vo7p4k36swI/видео.html
@@thetexasrat hey thanks! I always want to learn more(hadn't heard about the collet crimp before this), and wow the links are great for me to do that! have a great day.
WARNING: Pressure in the 45 ACP is far greater than that of the 45 Colt pistols. Not good to use 45 Auto data with cartridges to be use in 45 Colt guns.
45 ACP max pressure 21,000 psi
45 Colt max pressure 14,000 psi/14,000 CUP
[disclaimer: every thing here below is for educational use only!]
CAUTION: If one proceeds in this endeavor they should get the most helpful "Midway USA LoadMap 45 ACP" in order to be able to choose a safe powder charge to consider. As some starting charges are well over the 14000 PSI of the 45 Colt. See the Alliant Bullseye load data on page 70, in the USA LoadMap 45 ACP, to see just what could happen if one simply willy nillingly picks out any old 45 Auto load data and tries it out in the Cowboy 45 Special cartridges, as this starting load is way over safe working pressures of the 45 Colt. Also never go anywhere near the medium charge weight load data, as many of the medium charge weights for the 45 Auto are above the 14,000 psi of the 45 Colt gun's working pressure too. And keep in mind that any load near the 14,000 psi range would defeat the whole reason behind the Cowboy 45 Special case for shooting light loads!
And while the 45 Auto Rim and Cowboy 45 Special are just a few thousandths of an inch different in length and diameter the 45 Auto Rim's maximum rating of 15,000 CUP [lower than the that of the 45 Auto] is still higher than that of the 45 Colt, so while the starting loads for the 45 Auto Rim can be used in the Cowboy 45 Special cases, the maximum 45 Auto Rim loads will still generate unsafe pressures. Always start low and work up with caution. And keep in mind you should be shooting for a light load in the first place.
But why play around with fire? Below are proven safe and effective load data for the Cowboy 45 Special cartridge. [again: this is for educational use only!]
Yes Actual Cowboy 45 Special load data can be found in the 17th edition of "Cartridges Of The World", page 486:
And on these notes I hope y'all have a blast! The Good kind that is.
These are light loads. I’m not running anything hot in them. Thanks for the comment and watching.
@@jesseboutdoorsreloading
So you are just using the low end of 45 ACP data, without actually explaining this to the audience. You actually said in the video that others could use 45 ACP load data for the Cowboy 45 Special cartridges, of which could get them into big trouble if they do not know when to stop, like you do. Disclaimers aside, you should be more specific about stuff that is as serious as this is. Please go back and add a ticker tape to this video with the warning that one is not to use the mid to high end of the 45 Auto load data as the 45 Colt guns can not handle the pressures before somebody out there gets hurt.
@@thetexasrat I have a disclaimer in the beginning of the video not to use my load data. I’ll have to wait till I get to a computer to do anything else.
@@jesseboutdoorsreloading Yes you said not to use your load data that you picked for yourself, but you did not tell them just why you chose such a low charge weight, nor did you explain the hazards that would come with choosing higher charge weights. So now it is cool that no one can sue you if they end up hurting themselves off of your incomplete instructional advise. And I surely hope that you get to a computer before some one with little understanding decides to try out your advise of where to get load data from for the Cowboy 45 Special rounds.
I hope you understand I am not trying to be mean or a know it all, just wanting every one to be safe with full knowledge of what they'll be getting into is all.
@@thetexasrat I understand you. Just overlooked it.