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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Discussion with Jonathan part 2. Jonathan continues to rely on presuppositions rather than logic to sustain his faith.

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  • @danielmcwilliams5886
    @danielmcwilliams5886 17 дней назад +9

    You have more patience than most when dealing with Reformed theology. Well done as always Travis

  • @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp
    @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp 17 дней назад +4

    What's ironic is that a really powerful Divine indictment against all the atrocities human societies perpetuate and justify is spelled out very clearly in the Book of Moses: a text that Protestants can't accept.

  • @nashmcintosh2578
    @nashmcintosh2578 16 дней назад +4

    Travis is the goat 🐐

    • @Killthesefears
      @Killthesefears 16 дней назад +2

      He so is. Killing it left and right

  • @sean9854
    @sean9854 17 дней назад +4

    I appreciate Travis being non-biased, using a Hindu -Indian to narrate Deut 20. I would also like to know which Bible translation uses “..booty the women” instead of “plunder” so I can switch out my KJV

  • @treystone9464
    @treystone9464 17 дней назад +3

    16:15 The commandments are not a set of universal moral laws. What is moral is therefore relative, the Law of Moses was a unique law to Israelites, as a punishment for their forefather's sin with the golden calf, a punishment which other nations are not under (Gal 3:8, 13, 19, 24-25). The Feasts and Sabbaths and Kosher laws were not commanded to be practiced before Sinai, and that it should not be practiced by other people unless you are or becoming an Israelite "The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers" (Deut 5:3). If a Gentile observes the Law of Moses, like the Sabbath or Feasts, it is the opinion of Jews they are breaking the commandments, worthy of a death sentence (Talmud, Sanhedren 58b; Exodus Rabbah 25:11; Deuteronomy Rabbah 1:21).
    While in Jesus' era, he was constantly breaking the Sabbath by working, once his only defense was a refute God is resting on the Sabbath, "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work" (John 5:17). Jesus makes no indication that the disciples should rest on the Sabbath, and but had them all openly disobey the Mosaic Law to not prep nor cook (Exo 16:23; 34:21; 35:3; Num 15:32-36), it was not an "extra" law, and he broke it and taught others to do likewise.
    Another instance, he says King David broke the Law of Moses when he ate the Shewbread (1 Sa 21:3-6), for the Davidic King. "the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath" (Mark 12:8; Luke 6:1-5). The Laws don't come from a book, they come forth from the living oracles, like the Davidic King, and they even decide which days are holy (1 King 12:32-33; 2 King 23:21-22). Jesus started his ministry by issuing a new set of laws that supersede Moses' laws. "Ye have heard" the scriptures say X, but "I say" Y.

  • @curtisdecker3175
    @curtisdecker3175 16 дней назад +1

    This dude gives me Eli Sunday vibes!

  • @Killthesefears
    @Killthesefears 16 дней назад +1

    Reached check mate around 24:00