PSA Gimmicks-Are The New "Player Worn Cards" A Hit Or A Miss?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- There have been MANY gimmicks in the sports card world over the years. Gimmicks are not a bad thing, but rather the definition to new cards that are more unique. Recently however PSA is releasing their first gimmick. PSA announced a collaboration that they have done with Anthony Volpe and Bobby Witt Jr. In this collaboration Volpe and Witt put 7 baseball cards in their pocket during the game. After the game the player ssigned the cards, inscribed them, and then PSA encapsulated them. In this video we discuss if we think these gimmicks are good or bad.
I’m a Twins fan and Mauer is one of my favorite players ever but Jokic is on a complete different level
Chris here - based on what I’ve been told, I agree!
Another great video! Thank you for the content, I’m taking the Jokic
Jeff here: Thanks for watching and commenting! I’m with you on the Jokic.
I just started a binder of holiday ssp!
Chris here - 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
First off, remember baseball cards have from the get go been gimmicks. A gimmick to get folks to buy tobacco, and later candy/gum. These little things PSA are doing in no way truly affect the hobby, really in any way. Only one of each of these cards were kept by PSA for giveaways, the other six cards were given back to Carroll and Witt for them to give away or do whatever with. Just weird for anyone to really have a strong opinion on this, we have no idea where this may lead until it actually goes anywhere. As of now, this is just a one-off thing, and only really important to whoever ends up winning one of the two.
Well said!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the rational comment!
I would categorize those cards as Altered.......
Why?
They are damaged
Aha! Hobby buzzword! I bet some would agree with that.
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Jokic >>>>> Mauer all day. Jokic is already a 3x MVP and a Chip. He’s only adding to his resume. Mauer was great with tons a potential he never reached. Got that big contract and stopped hitting HRs. He’s only going to be forgotten faster now.
Chris here - I got enough context to know that Jokic’s career will end with a lot more accolades than Mauer. Almost certainly the Jokic is the better buy.
Jokic all day a phenom of a player
As always a great listen guys 👍
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Hey thanks for listening and commenting! 💪🏼
I like the blue inscription. Contrived? Yes. But i like it. Only 80 cards in the set. Value wise - my opinion - in a few years for the one or two guys who break through will be valued well above true gold. Opinion subject to change.
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Chris here - I hope at least a couple of the guys from this set do break though and we get to test your guess!
Jokic is becoming an inner circle Hall of Famer. Not even close. Jokic doesn’t have endless rookies either like other players because he was a 2nd round pick.
Very true. How collectible will his cards become? So far, he’s not been a hobby favorite, at least to the extent his accolades would seem he should be.
Absolutely love listening to you guys. I found your RUclips channel a few months ago when searching for additional baseball card podcasts, and you guys are hands down the best. I've listened to every episode since discovering you guys, while commuting to and from work, so I thank you for putting out this content.
As a collector who got back into the hobby in 2020, I personally typically only collect Indians/Guardians cards as I'm a huge Cleveland fan. I have tons of stuff, but I wanted to ask you guys what your guys' thoughts are on Jose Ramirez cards in the hobby? Do you think he has Hall of Fame potential? I feel like he's one of the most underrated players in the big leagues and he consistently is in the AL MVP race it seems like year in year out. I often hear you guys talk about the greats in the game today, Ohtani, Freeman, Mookie, Harper, etc., but where do you think Jram fits in? I'd be curious to know your thoughts.
Also - I hear Scott talk often about how many autographs a certain player has from a given year, or set. Is there an easy way to determine this? Or is it simply just reviewing checklists for all the sets? Relatedly, where is the best place to look for a list of card sets that get released each year?
Thanks guys! Always enjoy listening to you all.
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Chris here - thanks for listening! That’s really great to hear.
You’re right about Ramirez. He sone of the most under appreciated (outside of fantasy) stars in baseball.
His status as underrated makes him more affordable to collect, which is great for Cleveland fans.
Does he have a shot at the hall of fame? Absolutely he does.
There’s just no guarantee the hobby ever truly embraces him. Playing in Cleveland doesn’t help. Sadly, there’s more to card values than just putting up consistent numbers like Ramirez always does.
Thanks so much for listening and commenting! Appreciate the support! JRam is a beast, but hasn't really caught the hobby's attention in a major way. Can he? Sure! Will he? I'm not so sure.
I personally love this! Great for hobby and hopefully more players that collect do this
Chris here - yeah I’d love to see 2 different players every year! Just please don’t overdo it.
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Hard pass on all them extras on the Auto. Especially the my 1st Auto Gimmick ✌
Chris here - right there with you!
Another great show. A-C is shocking but nothing compares to Andres Gimenez' 1stBowman auto in 2018 Bowman. It was literally a forward slash. Unbelievable. Mercifully by the time 2018 Bowman's Best had come around he had been shamed into doing a proper auto and it was actually decent. It's worth having a look at his 2018 Bowman auto because it is funny, lol. P.S. The frosting in 2024 Bowman is far too large and detracts from the card. I get that they did it to accommodate the inscriptions but it's too prominent and affects the overall appeal of the card. The design is growing on me, though. Cheers!
The Gimenez auto! 😂😂😂
Thanks for sharing
I agree! I like the concept 😎👌💯🔥
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Thanks for commenting!
Plain and simple… these are cool. Ask yourself if you had one, would you think it’s cool? Of course, it will go too far with too many players… but for today, it’s very cool.
Chris here - I’d be excited to win one from PSA!
But would I keep it, or sell it? What would you do?
@@SpitballinCards we’re keepers
Make the My First Bowman Auto an actual 1/1 card slapped with a 1st bowman auto stamp on it like they intended with Series 1 and then "Forgot" to stamp. It's a gimmick that people might be interested in. The Superfractor is still the Superfractor. Yes, there are too many 1/1's already, but at this point, what's one more?
Chris here - the 1st card that topps forgot to stamp. My goodness!! How did they screw that up?!?!
Great idea!!!
Thanks for watching!
Another great discussion gents! Given the lineage and scarcity of the photographer's proof, members only and first day issue parallels, one would think the hobby would pay a premium for them. Do you think Stadium Club does a disservice to those parallels by not numbering them or publishing an approximate print run number? The hobby is enamored with anything labeled SP or has a / stamped on it.
Chris here - not serial numbering them does probably hurt their values/popularity.
They’re also just slightly different stamps so it will never appeal to the hobby masses.
Fun to pull and chase for player collectors. Especially if the image strikes a chord.
Thanks for watching!
In hockey, future watch autos /999 are one of the most important rookie cards. 50 of them are “inscribed” and the signers just include the date. They command a significant premium.
Are there lower numbered parallels as well? Or just those 2 options?
@@SpitballinCards just the two options for Future Watch Autos. There are no “base” autos for rookies in hockey like Topps Chrome or 1st Bowmans so the FWAs are the big rookie autos.
Just give a NICE looking mostly legible Auto.
That's a bigger ask you you would have thought!
PLEASE!!!
@26:23~ its a shame.
Sorry but I love the gimmicks!!! More stuff to hunt, IMHO of course.
An in game nft combination of a guy signing a card, filmed signing the card, insert the card into a pack, pull the card, then receive the nft as a redemption.. Too invasive but what the heck.
Chris here - I can totally see this becoming a thing!
PSA needs to stay in their lane. They should not be creating merch, just grade them.
Chris here - I understand this POV, but I don’t mind this if it’s one off prize giveaway.
@@SpitballinCards Not sure if they can resist more if this is successful.
@@starscreamjesse2121 very true
Whoa Jeff is back!!!! Ok what gimmick would you guys like to see in cards ? Just to piss off Chris every graded card other than a base should be listed as an SSSSSP.
Chris here - that hurts!!!
Jeff here: good to be back! Thanks for noticing!
Players will be wearing backpacks full of crap before its over! 😂
Right!? 🤣
Lol 100% i just wanted baseball cards topps not the players underwear
😂😂 I’d hate to think this could escalate.
@@mauriciobori 😂😂
Butt sweat is bad enough!
My dad pulled a Danny Graves auto when I was a kid. He signed it as “Gravy.” We both thought it was the coolest thing, but there’s definitely a fine line between something random the player decides to do and something that Topps makes them do and isn’t unique since every single player does it.
That's awesome -- what a cool memory! Thanks for sharing.
Great pull and great memory to have with your dad.
Few other comments… 1) Chris is hysterical. Love the sarcasm and I’m going to steal some of the jokes/comments. 2) Ever consider guest panelists (not replacements, but additions), like Stryker. 3) Episode Idea: “2024 Pre-Draft”. Do an episode in June or July leading up to the MLB Draft that features pre-Draft prospects and their cards in Stars & Stripes, Leaf, etc… 4) Episode Idea: “Hobby Love Bump?”Feature an episode on players that collect cards, asking since they love the hobby does the hobby love them back (is there a hobby-love bump)?…think Corbin, Bobby, Blaze Jordan, Freddy Freeman. 5.) Episode Idea: “Draft 2022, Draft 2023: Where Are They Now” and their cards… are they moving from Single A to Double to Triple A? Think of Evan Carter… could have gotten in very early. The guy from Let’s Talk Wax would be great for this, as a guest. 6. Episode Idea: “Juiced Blaster Retail???”With so much criticism for Topps 2023 Flagship retail missing hits and going to hobby, has Michael Rubin flipped the script and loaded the affordable retail boxes that reach the masses to help 10x the hobby? It seems the case for 2024 Series 1 and Bowman Baseball Blasters.
Just ideas. Love the show - and Chris’ cynicism and sarcasm.
Jeff here: while I appreciate the compliment, I have no doubt that you mean Chris as he’s much more witty than I, quicker with the jokes, and more sarcastic 🤣 Thanks for the thoughtful ideas!
Thanks
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin I edited it with Chris’s name. My bad. Appreciate you all.
cool idea unless over did
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I’d like to see it stay once a year, 2 different players each time.
How much does it cost to send my card into PSA and then they go and get the player to wear it before grading it?
Haha probably a lot more than bulk.
I believe that falls under "Special Services"
@25:50 ... Chris had a fleeting moment of looking at that Acuna with the snowman, leaning in, "well, maaaybeee". 🤣
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Chris here - you’re exactly right!! It lasted about 3 seconds.
I want relic cards with a piece of the player's old Ferrari, or a piece of their old Rolex. A plane ticket from their luxury vacation. Expensive stuff relics. High class items. 🤩
Maybe weird, I don't care. I like rare stuff. 😇
Like a personal relic?? I like it!
One of my slabs got a crack on it by accident the other day and im pretty hurt about it smh card is fine though
Chris here - I’m glad the slab protected the card. You can send it in for a new slab. It’s not free though, if the slab is damaged.
The “game worn” cards is one of the worst ideas they came up with.
Holiday card with value? Shohei Ohtani with Will Ferrell as elf on the card carries the most value aside from the 1/1 hat relics.
Is that a real card??
Sounds like PSA wants our money in their "pockets"
Ha! Always…
Lol ty hitting Chris with the "bawbawbadowww" price is right sound on the SSSP holiday had me cracking up 😅
Poor Chris looking at these topps holiday SPs like Vito corleone with Sonny "look how they massacred my boy..."
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Chris here - this is an absolutely perfect analogy. Thank you!!!
Haha! So true. Poor Chris during that segment 🤣
Next up we might have game stained armpit sweat patches! The mega monopolies, PSA and Fanatics, once again proving that the hobby is indeed now gone to the circus. Step right up here Johnny to try and pull a Wander Franco Jailhouse Rock insert. Just $10 a pack because we here at Fanatics care about the kids budgets 😂
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Chris here - I want to laugh, but it doesn’t sound that implausible!!
I'm not the type to spend thousands on a card, but I think I am gonna have to start saving for one of those Mauer cards in the future.
If they keep it as free and a giveaway I am cool with it.
Larry Walker looks like he uses a ruler when he signs, his auto is sweet.
The fact that they are told to write it, is no different than if Bowman Printed "My 1st Auto" onto the card. They will hold a premium of some sort I am sure though.
Random inscriptions are cool, Wade Boggs wrote "Chicken Man" on his 1/1 Pristine auto last year.
Chris here - yes yes yes!
The Boggs is great! Stuff like that is really collectible.
Thanks for watching!
Send 162 cards to Corbin Carrol, maybe he will play better.
Chris here - He’s been brutal so far this season. I just hope he’s not playing hurt.
"Player worn"? I want mine to smell like jock itch
😂😂😂 that might not too far off!
I'm not really interested in those cards. Something like that really should be going to kids but we all know they'll end up in the hands of rich man children.
Yeah it would be pretty cool if they could ensure these giveaways go to kids! I’d gladly forego my chance just for submitting to PSA 🤣 Thanks for commenting!
I’m sorry but the not knowing who Jokic is guy has to be a gimmick or a troll. I have never watched a soccer game in my life but I know about Messi, Mbappe, and Haaland etc..
Jeff here: I know Chris and I know that he knows NOTHING about basketball, so I don't think he was trolling! (I even think he mixed him up with Luka at one point in the conversation, who I guess he HAS heard of? 🤣)
Chris here - I haven’t watched an NBA game since the Bulls beat the Jazz.
I just don’t have the energy or the time for multiple sports.
I know who Giannis is only because jeff won’t stop taking about him all winter.
But yes I know who Messi is. I played soccer and the World Cup is one of my favorite events!
Thanks for watching. Sorry to disappoint!
@@SpitballinCardsI’ve watch every week. My favorite sports card podcast.
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin that’s funny it’s one of those eastern European guys 😂
@@stefan9229 thanks for the support!
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This is PSA's way of making us all feel okay with getting lower grades...
Chris here - oh man I hope not!!
Mauer top 50 card is greater than jokic best 15,000 card.
Chris here - this is a debate that’s probably never getting resolved. I live the different opinions and there’s a logic both ways.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I'll take a game worn jersey not some silly card in a guy's pocket.
They should been in a slab while in there pocket because these cards are mangled lol
You don't like the PSA 1 vibe?? 🤣
Chris here - I think the mats the point. “Game Used!”
Each of these gimmicks is stupider than the last
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What taco fractor hell yeah
You forget about the TacoFractor already?!
What do y'all think about the Kevin Hart cards? Lol. Now thats a gimmick!
VERRRY gimmicky, not for me! Thanks for commenting!
"game used" +inscriptions + base cards? Base rookie card. Little value. Base card + in card auto+inscriptions (PSA 9+) moderate value. Game used+base card (PSA 2?) no value. ... If anything they should shove PSA 10 slabs in their pants and try to keep them as 10's then crack them , sign and inscribe , grade and ONLY PSA 10'S are LEGITIMATE
Awaiting the Scratch N' Sniff Fart worn cards.....
Chris here - I mean these were in their back pockets…
How about gamestop buying psa cards from customers for "trade in value" like video games smh if this works it will really put local LCS'S in a bind 😞
I heard about that! Crazy! Is it a national thing? Or just a few locations?
Chris here - this is news to me!
A-C = B come on T-pott 🤣🤣🤣 I like anything the players and companies do to bring new ideas to the hobby and the game.
Chris here - I like the effort and I like them trying new things. Big like Jeff said - they won’t all be winners.
@@SpitballinCards Agreed, I am just happy they are trying vs the same old thing. ,😃
Rumor has it Fanatiics will be doing event used condoms in cards.
Just guessing here but maybe AC doesnt know how to spell or read. Just sayin'.
You’re probably right.
PSA looks Thirsty.
Aren’t they always!?
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As if the 50+ parallels was bad enough.....
Apparently it’s NEVER ENOUGH!
Also u gotta give most of the blame to the school system as aloy have taken cursive out of the new curriculum! (I know because i have a ten yr old) So some of these young kids coming up dont have a signature! Smh damn shame so thats how the "A-C" autos have come about
It's back in the curriculum in some schools! My daughter in 2nd grade started learning this year, so there's hope! 🤣
Chris here - that A-C auto makes my whole body hurt.
I’m 60 seconds into this episode and I already have a very important question. Chris - on a scale of Gandhi to Casey Anthony, how badly did you want to m$&@&r Scott when he said image variations are gimmicks?
😂😂😂 Chris here and
To answer your question - Robert Blake.
@@SpitballinCards 😂
If a player put a Bible verse on an auto I would be absolutely pissed!!! I'm an atheist but what about all the other religious people that like cards? I wouldn't want them to put a verse from a fairytale either!!!
I’m not a fan of the Bible verse cards, but they do have their collectors
noodles in the pot will never stick to the wall
Chris here - I agree and appreciate topps/fanatics trying new things. Some will stick and many will hopefully be forgotten.
Thanks for watching!
just disgusting