Yep. The DLC will limit how you are able to make non-DLC Persona since the DLC Persona overwrite normal fusions. They did this horrible implementation of DLC in P5R as well, and in that game getting the DLC actually made it impossible to fuse some Persona until the 3rd semester whereas they normally could have been fused much earlier without it.
They are effectively the same given that I also use an entrance buffer that gives 15 SP every battle, and as I stated in the video, Loki was the first instance of Spell Master so I kept it for fusion purposes.
Have been trying to find the correct fusions to get Loki and I end up getting an accident and get Loki. It worked out but not in the way I needed it to
My Uriel and ganga didn't make Gabriel, I had to use Uriel and anat to make Gabriel and then fuse it with the rider to get the same result, but I don't know what did that happen
Do you have the DLC installed? If so the DLC will reduce the number of fusion combinations for other Persona since the DLC Persona will take their place.
@@frantravez5615 Yep, that is why Uriel and Ganga didn't work then. Ordinarily the only outcome for those two is Gabriel, but with the DLC Gabriel is replaced by a DLC Persona instead.
Can you make a video on how to make these builds on your own? I know the process entails going backwards and figuring out the process from the specific build you want to achieve but do you have any tips or resources that you use in demon fusion?
i think so, but thunder reign cannot be transfered to othee persona; only Odin can learn it and use it, so it would be more useful to transfer the other skills to odin, but personally i think that it is better to have dedicated elemental personas
The reason you are getting Seiten Taisei is due to having the DLC installed, which will overwrite many fusion combinations. As for which one I used specifically, I don't remember; I made it around level 45 when I was first able to. Below though I have linked a page that will contain all fusion combinations for Shiki-Ouji that you can reference to find one that works. Link: aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3r/personas/Shiki-Ouji/fissions
@@Bleachisthebestanimeever It's not impossible; you just need to try combinations until one works. You can also select Fusion Settings at the top to and add all of the DLC Persona to the fusion list which will help narrow down the ones that work.
why do you make these 6 element builds?idk anything ab jrpgs so im curious bc i remember a black frost build you did back in p5 strikers that only had one skill boosted by its atributes that was so op,so im confused why its different here
In each of Atlus' titles they skills that a Persona/Demon can learn, while similar, do vary, as do the battle systems. In P5S turning Black Frost into a mono-element Persona was the way to go. In P3R for example, Black Frost is obtained much earlier and not really meant to be an end-game Persona; then there are the systems in place that incentivize dealing weakness damage but not too much damage when fighting non-boss enemies. This is where a 6 element Persona can be very useful -- not necessary, but useful. Black Frost, and later Loki, can be easily made into 6 element Persona so I chose them for that role.
Note: spelling is hard. It's definitely not because I'm an idiot and didn't check my note and totally because of my dyslexia. Yep. >.>
I managed to do the same thing early game with queen medb and the early aoe attacks, very good as fuse fodder too
With the DLC, Uriel + Ganga = Astarte. I ended up using Uriel and Jatayu to make Gabriel with the same end result instead
Yep. The DLC will limit how you are able to make non-DLC Persona since the DLC Persona overwrite normal fusions. They did this horrible implementation of DLC in P5R as well, and in that game getting the DLC actually made it impossible to fuse some Persona until the 3rd semester whereas they normally could have been fused much earlier without it.
Thank god for ur comment kause i was confused for a lil
Yo I remember this build similar to when I discovered you for SMT V! Hopefully you’ll be doing some videos on the vengeance in June?
Love this :D
Nice! I came to roughly the same build, but instead of null fire, I went with Megidola. I use him to farm hands.
Thanks joryu!
If the purpose of this Loki is to run around tartarus and kill monsters, wouldn't Life Aid be better than Spell Master?
They are effectively the same given that I also use an entrance buffer that gives 15 SP every battle, and as I stated in the video, Loki was the first instance of Spell Master so I kept it for fusion purposes.
@@RozalinGaming thank you! That makes sense
Have been trying to find the correct fusions to get Loki and I end up getting an accident and get Loki. It worked out but not in the way I needed it to
Fusion accidents can be a pain sometimes; luckily in P3R skill inheritance is no longer random, lol.
My Uriel and ganga didn't make Gabriel, I had to use Uriel and anat to make Gabriel and then fuse it with the rider to get the same result, but I don't know what did that happen
Do you have the DLC installed? If so the DLC will reduce the number of fusion combinations for other Persona since the DLC Persona will take their place.
@@RozalinGaming yes I have it installed
@@frantravez5615 Yep, that is why Uriel and Ganga didn't work then. Ordinarily the only outcome for those two is Gabriel, but with the DLC Gabriel is replaced by a DLC Persona instead.
Do you happen to have a similar build for a persona with all Tier 3 multi-target skills?
Could you do a guide for the best moves for Akechi’s Loki? I wanna use both 😂
i’m not rozalin but i think you’d want:
rebellion blade
almighty boost
almighty amp
magic mastery (if you’re lucky enough)
shift boost
shift amp
single target boost
spell master
Can you make a video on how to make these builds on your own? I know the process entails going backwards and figuring out the process from the specific build you want to achieve but do you have any tips or resources that you use in demon fusion?
You can find the full datamine of every Persona and skills from this database: aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3r/personas.
How did you get Gabriel with Kougaon?
Covered at 2:31 in the video. It comes from Uriel who I mention when covering which Persona are used in the fusion.
Would you be able to do 4 Elemental build with Loki but it's Inferno, Diamond Dust, Panta Rhei and Thunder Reign?
i think so, but thunder reign cannot be transfered to othee persona; only Odin can learn it and use it, so it would be more useful to transfer the other skills to odin, but personally i think that it is better to have dedicated elemental personas
That's not true thunder reign is transferable, just difficult @@alacran2204
Akechi Loki will always be cooler tbh
How did you fuse Shiki- Ouji because I keep getting Seiten Taisei?
The reason you are getting Seiten Taisei is due to having the DLC installed, which will overwrite many fusion combinations. As for which one I used specifically, I don't remember; I made it around level 45 when I was first able to. Below though I have linked a page that will contain all fusion combinations for Shiki-Ouji that you can reference to find one that works.
Link: aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3r/personas/Shiki-Ouji/fissions
Thanks but when I tried to fuse Uriel and Ganga, I got Astarte because of the dlc personas so I guess this build is unfortunately impossible for me
@@Bleachisthebestanimeever It's not impossible; you just need to try combinations until one works. You can also select Fusion Settings at the top to and add all of the DLC Persona to the fusion list which will help narrow down the ones that work.
Why does my loki look different from yours?
Because yours is the better one- Akechi’s Loki from P5R.
@@catalyst539 Loki vs The Cooler Loki
why do you make these 6 element builds?idk anything ab jrpgs so im curious bc i remember a black frost build you did back in p5 strikers that only had one skill boosted by its atributes that was so op,so im confused why its different here
He mentions it in the vid, it's to hit shadow weaknesses, not really meant to melt bosses.
@@Alistair_7609its not for the kill. It's for the AOA for guaranteed shuffle time
In each of Atlus' titles they skills that a Persona/Demon can learn, while similar, do vary, as do the battle systems. In P5S turning Black Frost into a mono-element Persona was the way to go. In P3R for example, Black Frost is obtained much earlier and not really meant to be an end-game Persona; then there are the systems in place that incentivize dealing weakness damage but not too much damage when fighting non-boss enemies. This is where a 6 element Persona can be very useful -- not necessary, but useful. Black Frost, and later Loki, can be easily made into 6 element Persona so I chose them for that role.
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What floor can I harvest Loki?
If you want to get him through Shuffle Time he is in the final block of Tartarus.
@@RozalinGaming you’re a life saver 🙏