I feel like a 100 mm refractor is a ideal scope in many respects. Big enough to provide decent high-power views of the Moon, planets, and double stars, but not so big to be cumbersome to mount. It’s a classic look!
After 55 years of viewing through optics. The views through a good refractor look best to me. The fact that ES can bring a 4 inch refractor to market and perform as well as they do is awesome. I have refractors 8 inch F/9 6 inch F/15 6 inch F/5 5 inch F/5.5 4 inch F/13.2 one very well used C8 SCT. Astronomy is fun If you want to do visual only fine However stepping into camera stuff to take images means your camera and computer have all the fun.
I just received 110 things to see with a telescope. That was exactly what I needed to find things to look at. Very simple and straightforward. I also made the mistake of getting a long 120 mm refractor I never used it because just so painful to carry and generally use. Now I pay attention to length and weight. I have a orion ed80 that I love. If the weather is nice just pick it up and observing in minutes. Looking forward to getting your book on the moon to Identify targets on the moon to view
I've been lucky to find some fixer-upper used telescopes for rock bottom prices in my day that I've been able to refurbish into nice scopes. I have an XT8 I obtained for $75 with a big dent in the tube that's now nicely tricked out.
I think you can tell from the bubble nebula image. Since the achromats are not designed for astrophotographery, you’ll have more bloated stars. They also have double the focal length of those APOs, so there are added challenges that come with that.
Like! What is the practical maximum magnification with this telescope? Theoretically it would be 204x but in practice? I have this telescope with 25 and 10 mm eyepiece but I want to buy a 6 or 5 mm one for higher magnification but I do not know which magnification would be too much and unpractical. Thank you!
@@LearnToStargaze Saturn looks very nice and bright with the 10 mm eyepiece at 100x magnification but it still is small in size. I want to see it bigger in size and now I don’t know what eyepiece to buy 5, 6 or 7 mm since I do not know which is the maximum practical magnification of the scope, for the planets to be bigger in size and also clear and sharp :). Wouldn’t a 5 mm eyepiece be too much and unpractical at 200x magnification since the maximum theoretical magnification of the scope is 204 ?
I needed a new focuser for my Bresser 102mm and found one on EBay for $58 plus shipping. Oddly, it package included a Celestron Omni xlt 102mm optical tube with a 1000mm focal length (and a SCT tripod). The tube has no rings, so I bought a set for $19 and used an old 180mm dove bar I had. I went on You Tube to watch videos and pick up some tips on the tube. Oddly, there were many for the Celestron Omni xlt 102 with a 650 focal length, but none with the 1000mm variant. So, I decided to watch this one as it looks similar to the Celestron. 100mm focal length, 2" focuser, good glass. Kinda happy with it. Nothing broken. Works okay. Takes surprisingly good photos.
Awesome, just got into hobby. Picked up the explorer scientific first light 127 maksutov on a eq3. Really liking it so far. Wanted to spend less but I camp and portability was king
@@LearnToStargaze I'm hoping so just received it earlier this week. Both my brothers are big into the hobby. One swears by refractors due to contrast "diamonds on black velvet" is his kick. The other is straight up maximum light buckets with large dobs. Figured I'd sample a bit from both camps. Decent aperture and really good contrast. If you wouldn't mind im looking for a decent zoom lens just to sample the 1900mm focal length. Both of them use baaders but looking for a less expensive option. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
can i ask you a question severals scopes came from B&H, Why not any of our Canadian dealers? Is it not more dealing with US money the exchange rates then shipping duties taxes etc?
By the way I wonder if I’ve ever seen or met you before I used to work part time at Khan Scope that was probably 12 to 15 years ago now I help brand new people like you and make videos and explain things
I just bought a used Bresser Messier 102/1000 (very similar) with a rock solid Omegon EQ-500 X mount for £200. The 1:8 focuser needs some attention, but I think it's a bargain 😊
I could, but I’m not sure there’s enough time for a video on that. What do you want to know? The 600 mm version is going to have more CA but is more portable. The 1000mm version may have better contrast.
Interesting video. Can you please tell me which one I should buy for visual observations (not astrophotography): a Bresser First Light (A different name for Explore Scientific in Europe) 102/1000 mm with EQ3 mount for 300 $ or a TS Optics 70/420 mm ED FLP-51 without mount for 430$ ? I don't know which of the two would have a better performance / resolution. Bigger APOs are simply too expensive for me. Other types of telescopes are not an option for me since I don't want to bother with collimation. Thank you!
The TS APO is designed for astrophotographery, and will offer lower resolution than the 102mm Bresser. I’d go with the Bresser in that case. The Bresser will offer higher resolution images of the Moon and planets, and the long focal length will offer naturally higher magnification. Although the Bresser is a far larger telescope, so keep that in mind.
I really like the twilight one mount that comes with it. I have it mounted to that scope right now. I’ve never had an issue with warranties in Canada. The best retailer here (under new ownership) is All-Star Telescope.
@@LearnToStargaze Thanks for your reply. The reason I asked you the question is I'm planning to buy my first scope and considering one of the following scopes - FirstLight 102mm f/6.5, Celestron Astromaster 102az and Celestron Starsense 102az. Also, most probably I'll be moving to Canada this December from US. So I was thinking if I but the scope here before moving to Canada or buy it from there for warranties.
Those all have the same lens. That Explore Scientific version has an undersized focuser. The astromaster and the Starsense are the same telescope on different mounts. The Starsense mount is far superior to the astromaster. The challenge with the Starsense is it’s overpriced (and it’s still tows the line between toy and tool). This telescope also has the same aperture, but is far more capable for not too much more investment. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552647-REG/sky_watcher_s21160_startravel_102mm_f_5_az_gte.html
@@LearnToStargaze I agree with you one the starsense model. I like the startravel 102 az-gte version. It also comes with a 90 degree diagonal. The same scope on manual mount have a 45 degree diagonal. Although it's around $100 more than my initial budget of scope + eye piece + filter but that I can manage. Only concern I had with this mount was it doesn't have manual control and can restrict the viewing if if I'm outdoor and battery runs out. Do you think I can do some DIY to add a manual control to it? ag-gti have that but that comes with Maks only. And buying the OTA and mount separate will increase the budget
Hey i know this is kinda late but i have the same telescope and a 60mm guide scope, how did u manage to attach it to the telescope using the guide slot u utilized that came on it ?
I bought the ES FirstLight 80x640 six months ago and it is by far the worst scope I purchased. The optics were dirty, but fine. The Focuser assembly was loose, the RDF and the finder groove were dinged and the focuser tube needed to be really dragged out. I tried mounting a regular dovetail after adding a ES compatible mounting bracket but that didnt help. Writing to ES didnt help either as they washed their hands off saying they can do nothing and there was no return policy for Indian customers - and we usually pay a lot more ; around 300$ . It is now gathering dust and I am planning to strip it for parts. Sad for the scope you got, but good thing they’ll fix it for you or you can return it. I’ll never buy an ES again in my life.
I'm with you, they just wash their hands. I bought the ES First Light 102 with the EQ mount and it's a wobbly piece of junk. The finder scope is actually tinted so dark the only star I can see is Serius, no kidding, get the scope and the owner says they make it that way so you can see better in the daylight. Who buys a scope like this for daylight viewing? Especially since it shows a mirror image, right is left and vice versa. Scope itself is good though, but you can't use it with what it comes with.
I just ordered the First Light 102mm with the EXOS EQ Nano Mount today for $362, had a discount. Did I get a decent deal? Is the tripod/mount good enough? I just noticed it's a 2" adapter so I can buy 2" EPs to go with my 1.25"?
@@LearnToStargaze No, never used EQ Mounts before, but am tired of trying to bump and go as I call it with my Celestron 114mm. A friend let me use his shaky EQ mount and I like the control, but his tripod wasn't stable so I fixed it for him. Haven't used it since I fixed his mount. My Celestron 114AZ-AR is a decent scope and has good views with Svbony EPs, tripod is also solid, but that mount is terrible. But I didn't have high hopes for an $82 scope (On Sale) anyway, thought I'd jury rig something. Still going to be bump and go though, which is why I bought a wide angle 15mm EP, so I don't lose my target. I screw on the 1.5 Barlow lens onto the EP it gets hard to stay on target and I spend half my time trying to reacquire it. Stops being enjoyable past 40x. Had a great view of Saturn at 80x, but then.... Heck, I'll let you know, the mount is rated for 15 lbs. but I'm guessing 12 lbs. would be best.
I did not receive the same scope as you, mine is 102mm yes, but a 1.25 focuser assy. and I cannot put on 2" eyepieces. I can tell you the EQ mount is shaky/wobbly and the scope is getting sent back because how can you focus when the whole thing shakes? The finder scope is tinted and I could barely see Sirius with it, I couldn't aim the damned thing without buying another finder scope. What the Hell!?! ES has realized their scope is such a piece of junk they lowered the price to $300 down from $380.
@@MountainFisher yeah, the Celestron Omni 102 AZ would be a much better option. Same lens, but without the issues. It also accepts 2" eyepieces. However, you can only find it at Costco, and they don't list it on their website.
It would make a good planetary scope and double stars. Low chromatic aberration, no coma and easy to obtain higher magnification with simple eyepieces. Great review. PS: halfway through 110 Things. It's a great book to record observations but I use my Edmund Mag 5 Star Atlas to locate objects.
I’d go with the one with the 2 inch focuser, which I think is the one with the longer focal length. That is more upgradable. It needs a much more sturdy mount though.
@@MetallicCross The best beginner option is a dobsonian. I bought my 6 inch used on Facebook marketplace for $150 and my 8 inch dobsonian used on Craigslist for $200. If you like refractors, the Sky-Watcher StarTravel 102mm would be an option, although you'd want to upgrade to a 90 degree diagonal. The Starsense 102 DX is also an option. Look for used or refurbished if cost is an issue.
The Omni has a focal length of 660mm, this scope has 1000. The extra focal length reduces chromatic aberration, and provides a higher magnification for a given eyepiece.
you say by used but look at the state of the condition it was in. your very lucky to have spare parts to hand. for someone starting out it would be a very different story and could be as expensive as just buying brand new.
That's why B&H photo actually wants you to send it right back if it's not perfect. I tend to negotiate with them since its worth it for me to keep the telescope.
Hello, I am considering this scope among others. I am interested in Moon and Planets. I'd like something that I can POSSIBLY connect my Canon M50 to or a telescope camera. I'd love that Costco Celestron but they are not available. Can you make any suggestions? I prefer lenses vs reflectors. My budget is about $500 and I'd like 90mm or larger. THANKS
For $500 for viewing the Moon and planets, I’d get the biggest Mak telescope I could get. See if there is one with a 2 inch focuser for your camera. Keep in mind that a reasonable starting budget for astrophotography with a DSLR is $3000 and you might want to start with a small, low focal length, APO refractor for that.
I really enjoy your videos. I’m looking for a decent grab and go refractor. I own an 8” SCT MEADE SCT. Ever since I saw your video on the Celestron Inspire 100mm AZ I think it might be a good choice. Before that I was considering the Celestron 80mm Travel Scope. Can you tell me what the weight of the 100mm AZ is ? I saw you carry it assembled to your car. It sounds like the perfect telescope for a quick session outside in the winter. Thanks
Where are you located? I'm currently reviewing the Celestron Omni 102mm AZ refractor (picked it up at Costco this week for $249 Canadian (That's $194 USD). I assume it has the same optics as the Inspire, but it includes slow motion controls, and the mount/tube are less bulky.
@@LearnToStargaze thanks for answering. I live near Syracuse New York. My Costco doesn’t have the Omni 102mm AZ. It looks like a decent telescope for the money. I’m looking forward to your review on it. I’ve learned a lot from your videos and I’ve just started watching you on RUclips. Thanks to you I’ll definitely be better informed when I find a grab and go scope. Thanks again dpm55 ( Dan From Syracuse)
@@dpm5519 It's a bit more expensive, but for me the "ultimate" grab and go telescope is this one (unfortunately, it's probably out of stock until next year): www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552647-REG/sky_watcher_s21160_startravel_102mm_f_5_az_gte.html (I have the same mount, and use it with multiple different scopes)
@@LearnToStargaze you’re right that is a really nice set up. Probably a little pricey for what I’m looking for as far as a grab and go celestial/ telestrial scope. I can see where that mount would serve many uses. I can imagine a lot of short tube retractors would perform well on that mount with my televvue eyepieces.Maybe I’ll get lucky and find one in my search. I’ll keep looking and watching your videos.
Enjoy the hobby, JJrevert. John's channel has a wealth of info for people like you. I got my start in astronomy when I was a few years younger than you and it has turned into a lifetime passion hobby! I hope it does for you too!
Is this a good scope for the intermediate user for viewing and pictures and can I upgrade it a little bit at a time and will this scope be with me forever I'm tired of buying junk with poor mounts
@@LearnToStargaze what would compare in celestron and what would be the best quality I'm still a beginner and moving into intermediate I'm sick of buying poor quality telescopes I want to be able to view planets and deeper things I want to have a telescope that will be with me forever and for my grandchildren 8 and 2 to be able to see something other than a bright tiny star I want to be able to take some pictures for myself and to use a phone for the children to be able to see please help me I'm just a dumb Country boy and am tired of wasting money and time on cheap built scopes your opinion matters to me I'm watching all your videos but I'm just lost
Hi there! I really enjoy your videos, great reviews and images of what we'd be able to see with different telescopes, you make it seem a lot easier :). I´m from Chile, South America, and I'd like to buy my first telescope,. In Chile they are more expensive so this one new, for example, will cost about 550 US dollars. But there is a version I can afford which is the Explore FirstLight 102mm NANO, will you reccommend it? Would it be better the Celestron Inspire 100 Az or the Sky-Watcher StarTravel 102mm f/4.9 AZ Refractor or another similar instead? Thank you very much :) Greetings from Chile!
Hi! The skywatcher would be the best of the three. The firstlight and the Celestron are basically the same. The skywatcher is better because of the two inch focuser and slow motion controls.
13:45 Pay "a little extra" for a GoTo mount at $1000? WTF?!? Everyone has an extra grand sitting around, right? smh You talk about these items as if they're inexpensive Dollar Store items and they are not. All of the two-inch eye pieces are a couple hundred dollars or more, each. You're talking about a major investment to get up and viewing for about my monthly rent.
i’m fairly new to the hobby but something that’s immediately obvious is that you get what you pay for….there’s low range and high range, i wish there was a good middle ground for quality scopes, eyepieces, mounts but it’s just a sea of either cheaply made stuff or very well made very expensive stuff
Reflectors age!! The mirror delaminates .. also the refractors lens Film can degrade.. I know I have my great grandfathers 60x800 Lafayette refractor from 1959. Had to had the optics re coated .. but omg Japan in the 50s made great optics. The views of the moon are sharp and clean clean clean.
@@LearnToStargaze B&H seemed to not really care about having any real communication with me over the issue. I would email them and they would respond and basically say nothing. I eventually called them and well lets say that was even worse. Seems people's experiences with B&H are hit and miss. They did not tell you that scope was in that kind of shape. Buying used from a reputable place one would think a scope would at least actually be functional. They said it did not have an eyepiece so it seems they looked at it to some extent. Anyway thanks for your response. Looks like a good scope or can be when fixed up. Its a Bresser.
telescope manufacturers are getting lazy, they want to make you believe that a 400mm long focal length is all you need!. when if you want to see any thing with any clarity, you need a long focal length telescope!. I wish I could find a scope or lenses, in a 1200 to 1800mm focal length. you can find some in a 1200mm but, you will have to sell your first born in order to afford it!. its amazing how much they want, for a little glass and flint and the machine labor to grind them!.
I prefer 1000mm and focal lengths and below for grab and go observing. Just a personal preference. Most of the time I use a focal length of 275 for astrophotography. I’ll use focal lengths above 1000 for viewing planets.
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I feel like a 100 mm refractor is a ideal scope in many respects. Big enough to provide decent high-power views of the Moon, planets, and double stars, but not so big to be cumbersome to mount. It’s a classic look!
After 55 years of viewing through optics.
The views through a good refractor look best to me.
The fact that ES can bring a 4 inch refractor to market and perform as well as they do is awesome.
I have refractors 8 inch F/9
6 inch F/15
6 inch F/5
5 inch F/5.5
4 inch F/13.2
one very well used C8 SCT.
Astronomy is fun
If you want to do visual only
fine
However stepping into camera stuff to take images means your camera and computer have all the fun.
The best views I have seen from the moon, venus and Jupiter have been thru my long (80/1200) refractor. Plus it looks awesome.
Looks like B & H sold that scope at least twice. I returned it late October for the exact same damages.
I can't believe how low the CA was in that picture. I would have said it's ED glass
I just received 110 things to see with a telescope. That was exactly what I needed to find things to look at. Very simple and straightforward. I also made the mistake of getting a long 120 mm refractor I never used it because just so painful to carry and generally use. Now I pay attention to length and weight. I have a orion ed80 that I love. If the weather is nice just pick it up and observing in minutes. Looking forward to getting your book on the moon to Identify targets on the moon to view
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, I've been having lots of fun with small refractors. Another video coming soon on the Omni 102. Clear skies!
I've been lucky to find some fixer-upper used telescopes for rock bottom prices in my day that I've been able to refurbish into nice scopes. I have an XT8 I obtained for $75 with a big dent in the tube that's now nicely tricked out.
Compare this explore scientific long refractor against the evostar 100 achromat?
I’m not sure there’s much to compare. They’re probably from the same machine at the factory.
How does this 102/1000 mm ES achromat compare to 70-80 mm APOs ? It would be very interesting to see a comparison video :)
I think you can tell from the bubble nebula image. Since the achromats are not designed for astrophotographery, you’ll have more bloated stars. They also have double the focal length of those APOs, so there are added challenges that come with that.
Like! What is the practical maximum magnification with this telescope? Theoretically it would be 204x but in practice? I have this telescope with 25 and 10 mm eyepiece but I want to buy a 6 or 5 mm one for higher magnification but I do not know which magnification would be too much and unpractical. Thank you!
Why are you looking for magnification? I think a nice 5 mm eyepiece might work well for Saturn. I may test this as soon as the clouds go away.
@@LearnToStargaze Saturn looks very nice and bright with the 10 mm eyepiece at 100x magnification but it still is small in size. I want to see it bigger in size and now I don’t know what eyepiece to buy 5, 6 or 7 mm since I do not know which is the maximum practical magnification of the scope, for the planets to be bigger in size and also clear and sharp :). Wouldn’t a 5 mm eyepiece be too much and unpractical at 200x magnification since the maximum theoretical magnification of the scope is 204 ?
@@BurningFlame1999 5mm would be fine for Saturn.
@@LearnToStargaze thank you a lot for your answer.
Prob the BEST 4 inch achro available ANYWHERE near that price top shelf optics for an achro like Vixen were
Are theses refractors better on the planets ? Great Video
Better that a small Newtonian, yes, probably not better than a larger SCT.
Thanks for the quick reply Clear Skies
I needed a new focuser for my Bresser 102mm and found one on EBay for $58 plus shipping. Oddly, it package included a Celestron Omni xlt 102mm optical tube with a 1000mm focal length (and a SCT tripod). The tube has no rings, so I bought a set for $19 and used an old 180mm dove bar I had.
I went on You Tube to watch videos and pick up some tips on the tube. Oddly, there were many for the Celestron Omni xlt 102 with a 650 focal length, but none with the 1000mm variant.
So, I decided to watch this one as it looks similar to the Celestron. 100mm focal length, 2" focuser, good glass. Kinda happy with it. Nothing broken. Works okay. Takes surprisingly good photos.
How about a semi-apo filter for this achromat ? Would it make the image better with less chromatic aberrations ?
This telescope has chromatic aberrations?
@@LearnToStargaze all achromats have CA, don't they ? I had the ES 102/1000 mm a while ago and it had very visible CA on Jupiter.
Awesome, just got into hobby. Picked up the explorer scientific first light 127 maksutov on a eq3. Really liking it so far. Wanted to spend less but I camp and portability was king
Those MAK's are Fantastic telescopes!
@@LearnToStargaze I'm hoping so just received it earlier this week. Both my brothers are big into the hobby. One swears by refractors due to contrast "diamonds on black velvet" is his kick. The other is straight up maximum light buckets with large dobs. Figured I'd sample a bit from both camps. Decent aperture and really good contrast. If you wouldn't mind im looking for a decent zoom lens just to sample the 1900mm focal length. Both of them use baaders but looking for a less expensive option. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
can i ask you a question severals scopes came from B&H, Why not any of our Canadian dealers? Is it not more dealing with US money the exchange rates then shipping duties taxes etc?
I use B&H for used scopes. I have several telescopes and accessories from Ontario Telescope and Khan Telescopes.
@@LearnToStargaze OK I just wasn’t sure if by adding all those other cost if it was even worth it but anyway cheers
By the way I wonder if I’ve ever seen or met you before I used to work part time at Khan Scope that was probably 12 to 15 years ago now I help brand new people like you and make videos and explain things
If anyone is looking for used equipment from Canada dealer try Khan's used department.
I just bought a used Bresser Messier 102/1000 (very similar) with a rock solid Omegon EQ-500 X mount for £200. The 1:8 focuser needs some attention, but I think it's a bargain 😊
How about a comparison of the Explore Scientific AR102 vs Explore Scientific FirstLight 102
I could, but I’m not sure there’s enough time for a video on that. What do you want to know? The 600 mm version is going to have more CA but is more portable. The 1000mm version may have better contrast.
Interesting video. Can you please tell me which one I should buy for visual observations (not astrophotography): a Bresser First Light (A different name for Explore Scientific in Europe) 102/1000 mm with EQ3 mount for 300 $ or a TS Optics 70/420 mm ED FLP-51 without mount for 430$ ? I don't know which of the two would have a better performance / resolution. Bigger APOs are simply too expensive for me. Other types of telescopes are not an option for me since I don't want to bother with collimation. Thank you!
The TS APO is designed for astrophotographery, and will offer lower resolution than the 102mm Bresser. I’d go with the Bresser in that case. The Bresser will offer higher resolution images of the Moon and planets, and the long focal length will offer naturally higher magnification. Although the Bresser is a far larger telescope, so keep that in mind.
@@LearnToStargaze Thank you a lot for your answer :)
how you bought those telescope so cheap? is it used?
Yes, I’ve bought several used telescopes on B&H photo.
What do you think about the mount coming with it? Also, I saw you buy many scopes from US. How you manage the warranty in Canada?
I really like the twilight one mount that comes with it. I have it mounted to that scope right now. I’ve never had an issue with warranties in Canada. The best retailer here (under new ownership) is All-Star Telescope.
@@LearnToStargaze Thanks for your reply. The reason I asked you the question is I'm planning to buy my first scope and considering one of the following scopes - FirstLight 102mm f/6.5, Celestron Astromaster 102az and Celestron Starsense 102az. Also, most probably I'll be moving to Canada this December from US. So I was thinking if I but the scope here before moving to Canada or buy it from there for warranties.
Those all have the same lens. That Explore Scientific version has an undersized focuser. The astromaster and the Starsense are the same telescope on different mounts. The Starsense mount is far superior to the astromaster. The challenge with the Starsense is it’s overpriced (and it’s still tows the line between toy and tool). This telescope also has the same aperture, but is far more capable for not too much more investment. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552647-REG/sky_watcher_s21160_startravel_102mm_f_5_az_gte.html
@@LearnToStargaze I agree with you one the starsense model. I like the startravel 102 az-gte version. It also comes with a 90 degree diagonal. The same scope on manual mount have a 45 degree diagonal. Although it's around $100 more than my initial budget of scope + eye piece + filter but that I can manage. Only concern I had with this mount was it doesn't have manual control and can restrict the viewing if if I'm outdoor and battery runs out. Do you think I can do some DIY to add a manual control to it? ag-gti have that but that comes with Maks only. And buying the OTA and mount separate will increase the budget
Is it possible to use motors with the telescope?
The telescope is on a vixen dovetail. It will fit on German equatorial mounts like the Celestron AVX or the new explore scientific iEXOS-100
Hey i know this is kinda late but i have the same telescope and a 60mm guide scope, how did u manage to attach it to the telescope using the guide slot u utilized that came on it ?
Hi! My guider came with a converter to the explore scientific finderscope base.
Hi! My guider came with a converter to the explore scientific finderscope base.
Great video- just curious as I am still learning- is this the 102mm Doublet refractor? Im assuming it is. Thank you
Yes, although most of their sub $1000 telescopes are doublets.
@@LearnToStargaze thank you- I am still learning this sort of thing.
I bought the ES FirstLight 80x640 six months ago and it is by far the worst scope I purchased. The optics were dirty, but fine. The Focuser assembly was loose, the RDF and the finder groove were dinged and the focuser tube needed to be really dragged out. I tried mounting a regular dovetail after adding a ES compatible mounting bracket but that didnt help. Writing to ES didnt help either as they washed their hands off saying they can do nothing and there was no return policy for Indian customers - and we usually pay a lot more ; around 300$ . It is now gathering dust and I am planning to strip it for parts. Sad for the scope you got, but good thing they’ll fix it for you or you can return it. I’ll never buy an ES again in my life.
I'm with you, they just wash their hands. I bought the ES First Light 102 with the EQ mount and it's a wobbly piece of junk. The finder scope is actually tinted so dark the only star I can see is Serius, no kidding, get the scope and the owner says they make it that way so you can see better in the daylight. Who buys a scope like this for daylight viewing? Especially since it shows a mirror image, right is left and vice versa.
Scope itself is good though, but you can't use it with what it comes with.
can you write you setup camera lens etc.
Most of my setup is covered here: www.learntostargaze.com/astrophotography
I just ordered the First Light 102mm with the EXOS EQ Nano Mount today for $362, had a discount. Did I get a decent deal? Is the tripod/mount good enough?
I just noticed it's a 2" adapter so I can buy 2" EPs to go with my 1.25"?
Do you have experience with EQ mounts? I’d be interesting to hear about your experience with that combination.
@@LearnToStargaze No, never used EQ Mounts before, but am tired of trying to bump and go as I call it with my Celestron 114mm. A friend let me use his shaky EQ mount and I like the control, but his tripod wasn't stable so I fixed it for him. Haven't used it since I fixed his mount.
My Celestron 114AZ-AR is a decent scope and has good views with Svbony EPs, tripod is also solid, but that mount is terrible. But I didn't have high hopes for an $82 scope (On Sale) anyway, thought I'd jury rig something. Still going to be bump and go though, which is why I bought a wide angle 15mm EP, so I don't lose my target. I screw on the 1.5 Barlow lens onto the EP it gets hard to stay on target and I spend half my time trying to reacquire it. Stops being enjoyable past 40x. Had a great view of Saturn at 80x, but then....
Heck, I'll let you know, the mount is rated for 15 lbs. but I'm guessing 12 lbs. would be best.
I did not receive the same scope as you, mine is 102mm yes, but a 1.25 focuser assy. and I cannot put on 2" eyepieces. I can tell you the EQ mount is shaky/wobbly and the scope is getting sent back because how can you focus when the whole thing shakes? The finder scope is tinted and I could barely see Sirius with it, I couldn't aim the damned thing without buying another finder scope. What the Hell!?! ES has realized their scope is such a piece of junk they lowered the price to $300 down from $380.
@@MountainFisher yeah, the Celestron Omni 102 AZ would be a much better option. Same lens, but without the issues. It also accepts 2" eyepieces. However, you can only find it at Costco, and they don't list it on their website.
How would this be for viewing planets like the moon and planets maybe astrophotography but not much
It’s good for planets, I pretty much showed exactly how to do astrophotography with this telescope in this video.
It would make a good planetary scope and double stars. Low chromatic aberration, no coma and easy to obtain higher magnification with simple eyepieces. Great review. PS: halfway through 110 Things. It's a great book to record observations but I use my Edmund Mag 5 Star Atlas to locate objects.
Wonderful!
As a first telescope would it be better to go with the f/6.5 or f/9.8 of this model ?
I’d go with the one with the 2 inch focuser, which I think is the one with the longer focal length. That is more upgradable. It needs a much more sturdy mount though.
@@LearnToStargaze with prices the way they are now. Is there a better beginner option for under $300?
@@MetallicCross The best beginner option is a dobsonian. I bought my 6 inch used on Facebook marketplace for $150 and my 8 inch dobsonian used on Craigslist for $200. If you like refractors, the Sky-Watcher StarTravel 102mm would be an option, although you'd want to upgrade to a 90 degree diagonal. The Starsense 102 DX is also an option. Look for used or refurbished if cost is an issue.
Very impressive AP result! I have the Celestron equivalent of the ES model and the optics are great - I really need to use it more often.
I was super impressed with the image! Chromatic aberration if you zoom way in, but barely noticeable without looking too close.
What is the difference between this telescope and Celestron Omni AZ 102mm?
The Omni has a focal length of 660mm, this scope has 1000. The extra focal length reduces chromatic aberration, and provides a higher magnification for a given eyepiece.
@@LearnToStargaze thank you my friend this helps tremendously in choosing a telescope 🔭
you say by used but look at the state of the condition it was in. your very lucky to have spare parts to hand.
for someone starting out it would be a very different story and could be as expensive as just buying brand new.
That's why B&H photo actually wants you to send it right back if it's not perfect. I tend to negotiate with them since its worth it for me to keep the telescope.
Hello, I am considering this scope among others. I am interested in Moon and Planets. I'd like something that I can POSSIBLY connect my Canon M50 to or a telescope camera. I'd love that Costco Celestron but they are not available. Can you make any suggestions? I prefer lenses vs reflectors. My budget is about $500 and I'd like 90mm or larger. THANKS
For $500 for viewing the Moon and planets, I’d get the biggest Mak telescope I could get. See if there is one with a 2 inch focuser for your camera. Keep in mind that a reasonable starting budget for astrophotography with a DSLR is $3000 and you might want to start with a small, low focal length, APO refractor for that.
@@LearnToStargaze Thanks for the reply. So much to consider and the costs can really get up there quickly!
I hit a gold mine with this channel very upset I just discovered you
Thanks! Yes, I wish RUclips’s algorithm shared things a bit wider.
I really enjoy your videos. I’m looking for a decent grab and go refractor. I own an 8” SCT MEADE SCT. Ever since I saw your video on the Celestron Inspire 100mm AZ I think it might be a good choice. Before that I was considering the Celestron 80mm Travel Scope. Can you tell me what the weight of the 100mm AZ is ? I saw you carry it assembled to your car. It sounds like the perfect telescope for a quick session outside in the winter.
Thanks
Where are you located? I'm currently reviewing the Celestron Omni 102mm AZ refractor (picked it up at Costco this week for $249 Canadian (That's $194 USD). I assume it has the same optics as the Inspire, but it includes slow motion controls, and the mount/tube are less bulky.
@@LearnToStargaze thanks for answering. I live near Syracuse New York. My Costco doesn’t have the Omni 102mm AZ. It looks like a decent telescope for the money. I’m looking forward to your review on it. I’ve learned a lot from your videos and I’ve just started watching you on RUclips. Thanks to you I’ll definitely be better informed when I find a grab and go scope. Thanks again dpm55 ( Dan From Syracuse)
@@dpm5519 It's a bit more expensive, but for me the "ultimate" grab and go telescope is this one (unfortunately, it's probably out of stock until next year): www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552647-REG/sky_watcher_s21160_startravel_102mm_f_5_az_gte.html
(I have the same mount, and use it with multiple different scopes)
@@LearnToStargaze you’re right that is a really nice set up. Probably a little pricey for what I’m looking for as far as a grab and go celestial/ telestrial scope. I can see where that mount would serve many uses. I can imagine a lot of short tube retractors would perform well on that mount with my televvue eyepieces.Maybe I’ll get lucky and find one in my search. I’ll keep looking and watching your videos.
thanks for this this really helped im only 15 and am learning and this really helped thanks so much.
Enjoy the hobby, JJrevert. John's channel has a wealth of info for people like you. I got my start in astronomy when I was a few years younger than you and it has turned into a lifetime passion hobby! I hope it does for you too!
Is this a good scope for the intermediate user for viewing and pictures and can I upgrade it a little bit at a time and will this scope be with me forever I'm tired of buying junk with poor mounts
Working on a video about that now.... will be live in a week or two. Too many options to discuss in a comment.
@@LearnToStargaze what would compare in celestron and what would be the best quality I'm still a beginner and moving into intermediate I'm sick of buying poor quality telescopes I want to be able to view planets and deeper things I want to have a telescope that will be with me forever and for my grandchildren 8 and 2 to be able to see something other than a bright tiny star I want to be able to take some pictures for myself and to use a phone for the children to be able to see please help me I'm just a dumb Country boy and am tired of wasting money and time on cheap built scopes your opinion matters to me I'm watching all your videos but I'm just lost
@@willlander9018 I'll post a video soon, called "Starting from Scratch" all your questions will be answered there.
This is why I rather pay the money 💰 and get a brand new one fresh out of the box.
Really good review 👍👍👍
Hi there! I really enjoy your videos, great reviews and images of what we'd be able to see with different telescopes, you make it seem a lot easier :). I´m from Chile, South America, and I'd like to buy my first telescope,. In Chile they are more expensive so this one new, for example, will cost about 550 US dollars. But there is a version I can afford which is the Explore FirstLight 102mm NANO, will you reccommend it? Would it be better the Celestron Inspire 100 Az or the Sky-Watcher StarTravel 102mm f/4.9 AZ Refractor or another similar instead? Thank you very much :) Greetings from Chile!
Hi! The skywatcher would be the best of the three. The firstlight and the Celestron are basically the same. The skywatcher is better because of the two inch focuser and slow motion controls.
@@LearnToStargaze thank you! 🙌
Lucky man
Nice telescope
good telescope. that refractor looks very interesting. thanks for the videos. an astronomical greeting.👍🔭✨
Retail price is now $909 w/mount at All-Star Telescopes. 11/11/2022. A $209 increase.
That’s in Canadian dollars. It’s $699 USD in most places.
@@LearnToStargazewith EQ3 mount it is just 380$
@@3dfxvoodoocards6 that’s a good price, not sure that mount is much fun without go-to capability.
"Special thanks to Halley Hellmich". Oof, I wonder if you got slack for that typo, hehe.
Thanks for the video!
There’s a Typo? (Also, Halley added that text, so…)
@@LearnToStargaze I assumed that it was 'Haley', damn, how foolish. I apologize!
13:45 Pay "a little extra" for a GoTo mount at $1000? WTF?!? Everyone has an extra grand sitting around, right? smh You talk about these items as if they're inexpensive Dollar Store items and they are not. All of the two-inch eye pieces are a couple hundred dollars or more, each. You're talking about a major investment to get up and viewing for about my monthly rent.
That go-to mount is $649.99. The $1000 includes the telescope.
It's amazing what people burn each month on cigarettes and bar drinks.
i’m fairly new to the hobby but something that’s immediately obvious is that you get what you pay for….there’s low range and high range, i wish there was a good middle ground for quality scopes, eyepieces, mounts but it’s just a sea of either cheaply made stuff or very well made very expensive stuff
@@nunyabusiness8538 Agreed.
Reflectors age!! The mirror delaminates .. also the refractors lens Film can degrade.. I know I have my great grandfathers 60x800 Lafayette refractor from 1959. Had to had the optics re coated .. but omg Japan in the 50s made great optics. The views of the moon are sharp and clean clean clean.
B&H Photo ripped me off. Lost $300 in the process. Think about it. B&H sold you a used scope that was quite trashed!
I'm sorry that happened. In my experience, B&H has offered complete refunds in every situation, but I chose to keep and repair the damaged telescopes.
@@LearnToStargaze B&H seemed to not really care about having any real communication with me over the issue. I would email them and they would respond and basically say nothing. I eventually called them and well lets say that was even worse. Seems people's experiences with B&H are hit and miss. They did not tell you that scope was in that kind of shape. Buying used from a reputable place one would think a scope would at least actually be functional. They said it did not have an eyepiece so it seems they looked at it to some extent. Anyway thanks for your response. Looks like a good scope or can be when fixed up. Its a Bresser.
telescope manufacturers are getting lazy, they want to make you believe that a 400mm long focal length is all you need!. when if you want to see any thing with any clarity, you need a long focal length telescope!. I wish I could find a scope or lenses, in a 1200 to 1800mm focal length. you can find some in a 1200mm but, you will have to sell your first born in order to afford it!. its amazing how much they want, for a little glass and flint and the machine labor to grind them!.
I prefer 1000mm and focal lengths and below for grab and go observing. Just a personal preference. Most of the time I use a focal length of 275 for astrophotography. I’ll use focal lengths above 1000 for viewing planets.