The Panoptic 24mm has been my prime eyepiece for outreach events for 15+ years. The odd thing about this eyepiece is that its current used price is 10-15% higher than the used price I paid all those years ago. IOW, I have used a Pan 24 for all this time and if I sell it, I'll get my money back and have a profit. It's not just an eyepiece: It's an investment.
@@Astronurd Pretty sure most of us live in a market economy, where the primary driver of inflation is supply and demand. Inflation (when it's above a few percentage points annually) is too much money chasing too few goods, the primary driver is changes in the labour market and supply shortages caused by market forces (but yes, it's partially due to the Ukraine conflict, baby boomers retiring, and lingering effects of the pandemic). Economic Analysis was part of my prior career in the Fortune 500.
This is 100% true. I bought a set of Svbony aspheric eyepieces off Amazon. They are cheap, but I was astounded by how much better the views were than through the junk eyepieces that came with the telescope. These are 62 degrees and it makes a big difference.
@@LearnToStargaze I also bought a 3x Barlow from Svbony, apochromatic. It feels really solid and looks great. My favorite combo for high magnification is the Barlow and the 10mm eyepiece. Great combo for views of the planets and moon.
Chinese optics go to support chicom concentration camps and a communist regime bent on destroying the West. First they convince the morally retarded among us to pay for it, and buy the cheap chicom option made with slave labor and stolen patents. Buy made in the West options and bring back our businesses and jobs.
Im a beginner stargazer. Im getting my first telescope delivered today. Its a Popular Science by Celestron StarSense Explorer DX 100AZ. I'm super excited to try it out tonight! I appreciate your breakdown of the eyepieces. Im going to be watching a lot of your videos in the near future.
At the start of summer I was able to get a 4 pack of Svbony Red eye pieces on sale. And what a difference they are compared to the stock eye piece that came with my 6 inch dob. Almost like going from SD to HD lol. This summer I was lucky enough to watch Europa slide in front of Jupiter, which was pretty awesome to see. And the other night I got to see the 4 stars in the heart of the Orion Nebula for the fist time. The eye pieces I always have with me are a 9mm and a 32mm.
I bought the Celestron kit of Plosll eyepieces and color filters at a store that had an open box kit marked down 30 percent. It came with 6 different magnifications from 32mm down to 6mm, and a 2x Barlow. The eyepieces I've used the most are far and above the 25mm and the 17mm, with some rare instances of using higher mag for moon viewing and photography. It does, however, come in a badass case lol. The Plossls have been good, but everyone tells me that once I can do it upgrade to the Televue but I think that's pointing out the obvious and I don't use my scope near enough at the present time to justify buying an eyepiece that costs almost half as much as my scope did lol.
It wasn't till I bought my Televie 32mm Plossel and put in on my beginner Celestron Astromaster 114Eq telescope that I realized how beautiful the view is and saved my love for the hobby! The eyepieces that come with beginner telescopes is like looking through a pinhole in a piece of dirty plastic. Quality eyepieces are huge panoramic windows that are crystal clear!
Unfortunately you got frauded by Celestron. Not only is bundled 20mm eyepiece absolute garbage, but also telescope is scam design made from rejects dumpster junk limiting it to low magnifications. It won't ever give views of the Moon and and planets properly made such size telescope gives. Except for Schmidt-Cassegrains you're better off avoiding Celestron, which has been run by scammers for years making those hobby killers. TelescopicWatch has honest accurate reviews, instead of pure ads/paid shilling of garbage which would have been deemed bad century ago.
I have a range of Televue EPs: 41mm panoptic, 31mm Nagler 5, 27mm Panoptic, 31/17/13/10/8 Ethos. I usually start the night with the 31mm Nagler, I'll pull the 41 out only if I have very dark skies since it has a 4.1 mm exit pupil with my C9.25 telescope, and I need the widest possible FOV with my SCT. The 8 only comes out when the seeing is near perfect. Some don't like wide field EPs for planetary work, but it is nice seeing all the moons alongside the planet. It's amazing looking through a high power EP without having a tiny pinhole to peep through.
When I let people take a peek through one of my Televue Delos EP's(I have the entire set) or my 35mm Nagler the biggest thing they are impressed by is the actual window-like size of the lens. They are so used to the tiny lenses in typical EP's that they are excited to look through these "spacewalk" type. I'm use a Televue TV-85 refractor, and honestly the best views are really low power and wide of the Milky Way. I had the 24mm but replaced it with the Nagler 22... For newbies I recommend a refractor under $500 between 80-100mm and suggest they get a couple Celestron X-Cel EP's...
Delos for the win!! I'm currently trying to build a set of Delos & Panoptics, but I keep buying other astro-stuff (Astro-Tech & Oberwerk have been getting all my $$ it seems). Love that 68°-72° AFOV. The APM 30mm UFF is the only other EP I own that comes close.
@@Astro_Ape They are worth the $ and never disappoint. I had the 24mm Pan and found the weight good, but bought the 22mm Nagler and sold the Pan for about what I paid for it. I use the 35mm Pan to sky surf and the Delos set for zooming in on areas and for planetary and moon watching. Have zero need for anything else. I tried other EP's over a couple years and finally found that all my needs were met by the Delos set, 35mm Pan and 22 Nagler. I only do visual astronomy so I'm set for whatever is up there to see. Also have a couple Baader filters..
Celestron X-Cels are rather expensive for their mid level AFOV. Same price gets 82° UWAs. Though eye relief of those isn't exactly good for the AFOV. But neither is eye relief good in Naglers, whose design those UWAs and Explore Scientific 82s copy.
@@Boxxkarr 30mm Ultra Flat Field is superb eyepiece for the money and basically top tier with sharp view to edges. Some use it as low power wide view complement to Baader Morpheus, or TeleVue Delite/Delos. But of course it won't correct aberrations of the telescope like coma of fast Newtonians. Though coma is going to be less visible than with wider AFOV eyepieces.
Not too far away, but of course there's a but...it depends on scope, observer and situation. Eye relief is a big thing. For me it means comfort and eye relaxaction, which makes the human side of things do better. The TeleVue Delos line is great for my age 50-60-ish eyes but others are better in some application. Various "ED" branded EPs like Agena and Astronomics are quite good with 50 degree fields and good eye relief. For outreach an 8-24mm zoom (Meade or Celestron) is a good modest choice. For real observing I use an E24mm ES-82, TV Delos 17.3 + 10, and a modest 5mm Agena 5mm ED. The last does great on double stars. I'd be hesitant on going with Plossl EP's at low FL's. My scopes are mostly at f/6.3: An 8" Meade SCT usually with Celestron 0.63 rd/ff and Celestron Onyx 80mm f/6.3 EDF. Props also viewing without eyeglasses to ES 82 11, 8.8, 6.7 and 68-24. Direct comparisons: TV 14mm Radian (mine): dimmer than comparable Delos and Ethos. TV 31 Nagler vs ES 30-82 (mine): very close. Largely dependent on wide part field the scope has. Miscellanious Naglers to Delos and Ethos: muddy coloration in the Naglers. Just what I've seen with my own eyes. Opinions may vary
I was thinking about buying new eyepieces but which one different people have different opinion so I didn't get answer, after watching your video I got my answer Thank you ,love your videos
I’ve wanted the 27mm panoptic for a bit but it’s currently on backorder on high point scientific. My first 2 inch eyepiece was the celestron 26mm e-lux which in fast scopes isn’t the greatest, so I’m planning on using the 27mm pan as a replacement/upgrade whenever it’s available again.
Celestron sells lots of cheap/substandard stuff using name. E-Luxes are Kellners good only for f/10 and slower. 28mm UWA would be good ~200 $/€ wide view eyepiece. Though eye relief is mediocre for the AFOV. APM/SkyRover/StellaLyra etc 30mm Ultra Flat Field is little narrower but would have even better quality and glasses compatible eye relief.
New star gazer here, just bought a 10 Dob 250P Skywatcher. This video helped me understand more about where I want to go next when it comes to eyepieces. Thanks so much! New sub!
Courtesy of SkyWatcher's lackluster equipping, even if mostly observing moon/planets you'll need to replace that no good in 1200mm focal length telescopes 25mm Plössl. 60% wider view giving GSO 30mm Superview would be starter quality wide view eyepiece, though its astigmatism propably shows seriously in f/5 telescope. Next step is high quality ones at ~200 $/€ with 30mm Ultra Flat Field and 28mm UWA. For medium and high magnification giving eyepieces there's more different budget choises. (though not many with wide AFOV and longer eye relief)
@@tuunaes I am keeping the Plössl lenses for when the really young kids are viewing. Also star parties I will likely use them to prevent theft of my nicer lenses. Best wishes and Clear Skies*
There was no mention of weight. Many small telescopes will be out of balance with a larger eyepiece. I wasn't aware Terry Dickson passed away this year. Great review.
@@LearnToStargaze For Naglers it applies only to 1.25" barrel ones. 2" long focal length Naglers, along with closely related Explore Scientific 82s get very heavy with 31mm "Holy Hand Grenade/Terminagler" and 30mm Explore Scientific 82 weighting full kilogram. Those make 28mm UWA light at third less weight... And really Naglers achieve that low weight and small size for AFOV by compromising eye relief. Baader Morpheus line is better example of wide AFOV and longer eye relief. (kicks ES82s to curb in ease of viewing/comfort)
Barlows? I prefer Televue EPs but cringe at the cost. I found that the DeLite series and Panoptic series suit my needs. Even the 25mm and 32mm Plossels by Televue are above the competition. I also prefer 2" diagonals for refractors. The GSO 2" 2X APO barlow is pretty nice as is any Televue Barlow or Powermate.
I’m new to telescope and viewing. I bought a 8” dob and wanted to know if I should get the TV 24mm panoptic or the TV27mm panoptic. I have a 9mm nagler and a 13mm nagler currently.
I also have an 8 inch dob and went with the 27mm Panoptic. I remember Ed Ting mentioning in a review that this is his most used eyepiece with an 8 inch dobsonian. So far I have been very happy
I have the Celestron 102 and have used the Celestron zoom eyepiece along with some Celestron plossols. My other scopes (Orion Starmax 90 & XT6i dob) only use 1.25” eyepieces. Is it worth upgrading the 102 to 2” diagonal & eyepieces over the 1.25”? Or stick with 1.25 and get higher quality eyepieces to use with all 3 scopes?
Cant say I fully agree with the statement about no upside down in space because when you need to manually control/rotate the telescope this can make things confusing for a beginner. You get used to it over time though. Anyway, cool video thanks. One thing I'm curious about and you didn't explain is what is the real difference between the cheap and expensive telescope, cause you said they can provide nearly the same view quality, with a good eye piece.
The good telescope has minimum chromatic aberration, which is primarily seen in planets, and not deep sky objects. Since this video is about eyepieces, I left that to a short *footnote at the bottom of the page.
Mass produced mirrors are nowadays usually quite good, but that doesn't mean every cheap telescope is capable to good image quality. Especially Celestron has many supermarket hobby killers with garbage design and garbage quality optics. Also even if optics are good, whole lots of non-Dobson reflectors are seriously undermounted. (and all cheap fast achromatic refractors have lots of chromatic aberration)
Hola John, greetings from Mexico. Quick one for you, I own the Omni 102 refractor and I am kind of stuck with 1.25”, which one do you recommend? I like 26” and higher, but not sure which brand should I get. Gracias.
Very nicely done video ! There are Televue EPs and then there is everything else. I was on a tight budget and bought a TV EP once a month. I wear glasses and want good ER so went mainly for TV Delite series and am very pleased with the 62deg and 20mm ER . I also bought a 24mm TV Panoptic which I like. I have one 82deg EP and sadly not a big fan of the UW EP due to distortion. A review on Barlow lenses and various diagonals would be nice. I have both a TV 1.25" and a 2"GSO ED Barlow and I prefer the GSO due to the removable lens cell that has standard threads. My Baader 2" prism diagonal is very nice. Keep up the good work!
I can only dream of owning the high end TV EPs. Most in my area are more interested in astrophotography which is something I am starting to learn about but my prime interest is visual observation. Our club has a large SCT but it is used only with a camera/computer. So much to learn about!
Everything else 😂. There's eyepieces that are actually better than some of the televue range. They are indeed quality eyepieces but are overpriced IMO.
Eyeglass wearer here too. I had a bunch of eyepieces that I considered excellent (13 and 5mm Baader Hyperion and Orion Q70 32 mm) but finally decided to get a couple of Televue eyepieces (27 Panoptic and 9 Delite) and they are pretty superb (this is for an 8 inch dobsonian).
ahaha i upgraded to the plossl ones and now my stock kellner ones are ones to experiement with cleaning, though Im still taking care of the stock ones wow.
Great video love the eye pieces lol I have mostly Telvue there are expensive but the views are unbelievable, and i have 2 explore scientific 100°20mm and 14 mm views are fantastic definitely 2 favorites, my other favorites 41mm panoptic 30mmexplore scientific 82°,22mm nagler ,its real hard to pic tbh lol,actually its all my eyepieces . But if you like big deep views 41mm and 30mm and 22mm cant be beat ,im using 12"sct at f10 and at f6.3
Hey john I want to know what’s the best computerized telescope for astrophotography under 500$? I also have a dslr camera, I want the telescope to image detailed planets and detailed deep sky objects. Thanks!
Hi! If you’re on a budget, you might be able to put together a system that can take images of deep sky objects for around $2500, but you’d be making some compromises. That said, AstroBiscuit has some tips that can bring the price down (building your own telescope for example) that might help. astrobiscuit.com
@@LearnToStargaze i dont want to spend 2500$, and i dont want to build my own one too😕 is the celestron nexstar 130 slt good for astrophotography? i want to take long exposure images.
@@daryawwxdwdy9710 No, the NexStar will not work for long exposures. I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm the right person to ask about discount astrophotography. I think you should follow Astrobiscuit's channel, you might find something there that is helpful.
@@daryawwxdwdy9710 yeah it sucks I would love to be able to do astrophotography with a 500 dollar budget, but so would anyone. unfortunately there are some things in this world that you just need a lot of money to do, and astrophotography is one of them. You won't be able to until you are willing to spend at least 1000 1500 bucks to do it at a beginner level and even then don't expect pictures like you find online... they won't be amazing.
Deep sky objects are out of your budget, but you can do planetary imaging. Cheapest option is a used long focal length refractor, or reflector. I've got decent results with a 114/900 Newtonian on an EQ mount with a cheap EQ motor, but DSLR isn't the best choice for planetary imaging - better to buy a planetary camera.
QUESTION?: I have a Meade 10" LX200 GPS Cassegrain with "UHTC". I have a Tele View Diagonal. #1) What is the general opinion of Meade 1.25" Super Plossl Telescope Eyepieces? #2) My viewing is primarily planets, galaxies and nebula. If I buy just One Tele View eyepiece, what do you recommend? IF, I bought Two Tele View eyepieces, what do you recommend? They would have to be "1.25" eyepieces. Thanks in advance for all information & opinions. Best Regards
I just have a 26mm Meade Super Plossl. I use it all the time, often with a Barlow for viewing planets. If you buy one teleview eyepiece it would be the 18mm panoptic, if two it would be the 5mm nagler, although the 5mm would be a LOT of magnification with that Meade LX 200, though it may surprise you with amazing views of Saturn.
@@LearnToStargaze Thank You. My first view through a professional telescope was many years ago at the Miami Space Transit Planetarium, on their roof viewing Saturn. That got me hooked. Jack Horkheimer had the late nite TV Show "Star Hustler" on PBS. I met up with him in the Florida Keys to look at Halley's Comet. Best Regards
Great Video. I just got my first telescope CELESTRON STARSENSE EXPLORER DX 102AZ with celestron Plossl 32 mm. eyepiece Thinking about upgrading the eyepiece. What do you recommend please?
Hello I have, a set of 120mm f/5.5 binoculars and I am looking for a decent set of low power eyepieces for them 1.25 fit. The bins, are also Achromatic I have been looking at some 30mm Japanese eyepieces but there are, lots of reviews out there of what may be compatible with the instrument so I am now at a, stalemate.
'even if you explain how its gonna be really short... "place barlow in the spot you put an eyepiece instead of an eyepiece.... Place any eyepiece in the barlow as if the barlow is just the telescope." the end
@@nostalgiaarcadefuture except in most cases, its bad advice to use one in the first place. It's better not to get into that. Barlows are the main reason people can't get their telescopes to work at all.
@@LearnToStargaze Oh I know, just filling in the gap. and no matter how much you explain that to someone they are probably still gonna use them, so why fight it. they will learn eventually.
Rather than the Tele-Vue 24mm Panoptic 1.25" is there any con to getting the Tele-Vue 27mm Panoptic 2" (for about $40 more)? I can't get both. I own an Orion 10" Intelliscope Dob.
@@LearnToStargaze Would then getting the Tele Vue 2" Big Barlow be a good option to increase magnification (for the moon & planets)? The Barlow costs less than a second eyepiece and it is 2" like the 27mm Panoptic.
@@robcicca About a year ago, @Jrocketoriginal asked LearnToStargaze to make a video about “how to use a Barlow lens”. LearnToStargaze’s reply was “Haha, it might be pretty short. “How to use a barlow lens… “Don’t” ”
Good information. It's too bad I didn't see this video before I purchase the eyepieces for my new Celestron 6SE. I am new to astronomy, and the 6SE is am first real telescope.. I had some cheap ones in the past, Question: How do you take pictures with the iPhone? I have IPhone 14 and doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe it is because I have tow lenses on the back of the iPhone.
You really need the Celestron NeXYZ to control the position of the phone. It’s extremely challenging to position the lens of the camera in the exit pupil of the eyepiece. When I 3D printed my own adapters, the position had to be down to the mm otherwise it didn’t work.
I use both apple and PC’s simultaneously. PC’s for Linux virtual machine for Cosmos (satellite ground control software), apple for video work (Premiere), InDesign, etc. PC’s for SAP when I worked in Finance for Clorox for over a decade, but then apple for the astrophysics degree and then Masters in Engineering; for python (Spyder/Anaconda). But you’re right. I still don’t know what I’m talking about. No experience at all.
@@LearnToStargaze when a person needs to show is credits to justify theyre position... I am doing a doctor degree in cybersecurity in playmouth , I have masters (berlin) in Computing engineering and POS in hardware design... When you experience an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D overclocked for a fraction of the cost of an apple... then you will see what Premiere is. Your channel have interesting things, but needs more humble, that crap book all the time says a lot ...
@@rogerrr1012 I’m impressed. Now just work on an English degree and very soon you’ll be able to write a paragraph using some recognised form of grammatical structure. You may even find you make some sort of sense.
I once asked a friend of mine what his favorite eyepiece was. He said Tele Vue Panoptic 24. I bought one. It is now my favorite, just like you. By the way, buying my grandchildren a telescope this year for Xmas. Bought 2 of your books to wrap up and put under the tree with the scope. Interestingly, i bought your books and some eyepieces but haven’t decided on the starter scope yet. So hard deciding.
I finally got my eq mount its a national geographic 76eq and its all i can afford im a newbie into eq mounts I easily found saturn using my telescope and planning to replace the eyepiece with better eyepieces im still worried that my telescope will fell of its eq mount
Hopefully the view of Saturn was okay and not too much trouble. Viewing Saturn is pretty easy in a normal telescope, but there is so much extra going on with that eq mount that it can make it very challenging to point.
@LearnToStargaze, for the best views and close up for planetary purposes, what EPs do you recommend for starsense dx5?? Any advice would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
Im pretty new with telescopes and I got the CELESTRON StarSense Explorer LT 114AZ telescope are there any recommendation of what eyepiece I should get to get the best out of my telescope? thanks in advance!
Unfortunately that telescope, like quite many (Chinese) Celestrons is total scam with braindead design and rejects dumpster optics. So you won't ever get proper high magnification views of planets or the most rewarding celestial object, our Moon. Bundled 10mm eyepiece propably already approaches limits of that bad optics. Also designs makes it far harder to collimate for keeping that limited from the start performance. Bundled 2x Barlow is also total plastics garbage best used as cushion between anvil and hammer. At low magnifications bad optics isn't issue, but focal length bloated artificially by cheapo Barlow in focuser is problem for getting wide views. 32mm Plössl would give the widest possible view in 1.25" size eyepieces. Though if there's major light pollution, decreasing magnification lowers contrast between stars and sky. (there are some more expensive eyepieces giving as wide view at higher magnification)
What make and model over 100 degree field of view eyepiece would be best for quality and affordable point for Nexstar 127SLT telescope i.e. 1500 focal length, please? I want to show my wife Saturn and we both wear glasses and she is clumsy so the view needs to be big.
Why 100 degrees? Those aren’t very common and not required at all for planets. You might try one of those Hyperion eyepieces, like the 10mm, the FOV is quite large, but not even close to 100 degrees. You can see the example this video, the C5 telescope is basically the same as your 127.
@@LearnToStargaze Thanks for the reply. Won't the 100 degree give us bigger image. We both wear glasses and after bigger image. Some have suggested 9mm magnification for this scope.
@@YASAJTV no, FOV has nothing to do with magnification. It has to do with the size of the circle you see when you look into the eyepiece. Focal Length determines magnification.
XWA eyepieces don't work well with glasses, because of eye relief being very mediocre for AFOV and you would see only center parf of the field easily. Heck, already 80° UWAs need pushing eye really close and basically need "peeking around the corner" to see field edges. Baader Morpheus are about as wide AFOV eyepieces as you can get with longer eye relief.
Hi, i am thinking about buying a telescope and i am wondering if the GSO DOBSONIAN TELESCOPE 250C is a good option. And if i could see nebulas with it.
Magnification is the only needed ND filter for the Moon. Haven't found any need to dim down the view and I have 10" Dobson. And when observing the Moon and planets you should aim to avoid eye's dark adaptation: Resolution of scotopic vision is major amount lower than that of photopic vision.
@@limebulls While point sources, like stars, stay as points no matter the magnification, surface sources have their light "spread thinner" the higher the magnification. In fact per surface area unit on retina their image won't ever get higher than by naked eye and telescope can only make image bigger. Eye's pupil diameter sets limit for that. When observing especially the Moon it's helpfull to have some light around to minimize eye's attempts to adjust to lower light, because it's brightness cycling which causes that discomfort. (Moon isn't any brighter than daylight) Exit pupil around 1mm would be good minimum magnification. (Exit pupil = Eyepiece focal length / Telescope focal ratio) And using as much magnification as seeing allows helps especially with full moon, which has actually decent amount of details with big enough aperture and magnification.
hello ive been using my telescope for around a week now, i havent got any filters but my main question is if the finderscope should have low magnification cause the moon through the finderscope looks a little bit small, is the main scope more magnified? just subscribed, thanks👍
@@jponz85 This would be my go-to eyepiece for that telescope: www.baader-planetarium.com/en/accessories/optical-accessories/eyepieces/10mm-hyperion-68%C2%B0-modular-eyepiece.html
I am a 76 year old and in astronomy since I was 7 years old. I have some high end APO refractors, 80mm, 85mm, 110mm, and 152mm. I also use SCTs....8", 11", 14". I also use DOBS from 8" up to 22". I have gone through several brands and models of eyepieces all these years and like @anata5127 have mostly swapped all of them to Pentax's full range. Mainly because they simply work as good as or better than others but also have nitrogen sealed optics to prevent internal dewing and are comfortable to use for long sessions. The 1 1/4" versions are all parfocal which is a big advantage. I still have one TV 32mm Plossl and some Lunt and Coronado solar specific eyepieces for use with my Ha solar scopes. Many eyepieces that are larger AFOV have problems with artifacts at edges, reflections, etc. If you want a very good eyepiece for not too much money, the TV Plossl is a good choice. But I have had mixed results with the other TV eyepieces and no longer own any TV except for that 32mm Plossl. In particular the very wide AFOV eyepieces have too many negatives for me. To me the only reason to use one of those ultra wide field eyepieces is with a DOB to minimize having to move the scope as much. A simpler eyepiece design will yield superior views. Frankly before adding eyepieces, the first choice IF you have a scope that uses a diagonal is to upgrade the diagonal to a much better one. The diagonals that come on most scopes is a very poor quality one. TV, BAADER, Astro Physics, Burgess, are a few brands I can recommend. It is surprising to me when I see a SCT owner with the stock diagonal and using TV or similar high quality eyepieces. That premium eyepiece is a waste of money unless you upgrade to a better quality diagonal. Each type of scope and purpose will work best with certain eyepieces so rather than buying a bunch at the same time.... it is better to ask others with different brands and models if you can try theirs on your scope. And don't buy based on what others use or recommend without first trying them on your scope.
Hi so i was attaching a barlow lens to my telescope It failed but when i tried to reconnect the diagonal mirror it wont attach it kept falling off and a cone shaped object fell off now it just wont attach pls help my telescope model is celestron 70AZ
Can you help me out I’m trying to align my finder with my 8 inch dob.I found a chimney pot about 100 metres away but can’t achieve focus with any eyepiece.I tried with a 2 x barlow and it focused perfectly.I’m quite sure it’s not out of collimation so wondered if you have any suggestions???clear skies tonight and desperate to get outside✌️
The Barlow changes the position of the focal plane, moving it backward, in your case it moved it into the range of the eyepiece for that distance. Try a star or planet this time. Saturn is optimal this time of year.
@@ryanfahrne5318 I think that's more of a generalization when talking about eyepieces. 2" eyepieces capture more of the "image" projected by the primary lens or mirror, and often has a larger diameter glass... but Field of View is more a function of eyepiece design.
@@LearnToStargaze As you managed to capture the eyepiece's output with a lensed camera anyway (which is different from the approach when doing astrophotography) I would recommend to use a full frame sensored camera with an (self printed?) adapter and a 50 mm lens. 50 mm is known for representing the human's eye field of view.
The pincushioning you see in the TeleVue eyepieces is there by design, and it is not the result of a disagreement between your eyepiece and your iPhone. It really does look that way to the eye. We've tested them out here in the store and saw the same thing. The reason it's there is that many telescopes suffer from some form of visual aberration that the pincushion effect through the TeleVues compensates for.
Handy video for beginners to the hobby. It may be clearer for beginners to refer to focal lengths in terms of length (long/short) rather than magnitude (high/low) so it is not conflated with magnification (high/low).
You cannot correct with an expensive eyepice an image distorted by cheap telescope's lenses. An f7 4 inch achromat might gather the same amount of light as an f7 4 inch apochromat but you won't see the same quality image no matter what televue eyepice you use.
I own close to 30 TeleVue eyepieces, including three Ethos (17mm, 13mm, 3.7mm). Yeah, crazy, but I own a binoviewer and thus own two 24mm and 19mm Panoptics. I’ve also been bitten by the collector bug and have several discontinued TV eyepieces. I also own thirty telescopes. Crazy, I know. I need to sell at least half my gear.
Two inch focusers, require two inch diagonals. All of these eyepieces work with 1.25 inch focusers. For larger telescopes, those which accept two inch diagonals/focusers, you can removed the 1.25 inch adapter (which in some cases doubles as a barlow), and you're left with a high focal length eyepiece that fits two inch diagonals.
@@LearnToStargaze I just a new Celestron Omni 102 for $80. In the box!!. Before I start to buy a better eyepiece should I just go the 2incg route? I already have an svbony diagonal in 1.25 and I like it. However, is 2 inch better?
@@schutztruppe that all depends on the eyepiece. If there is a two inch eyepiece that you like, then you’ll need one. I think these Hyperion eyepieces are the way to go, since they fit the 1.25 inch barrel, but seem to offer a 2 inch equivalent experience.
@@LearnToStargaze thanks for all the help. I just sold my power seeker Monday night and picked up this Omni 102 Tuesday night. I love it already. We go camping a lot and needed something not so touchy like . Collimating the mirrors.
You focus too much on field of view. At the 13:28 point you compare the 25mm (Plossl?) with the 24mm Hyperion. The Hyperion has a much wider view and doesn't show the inside of the eyepiece barrel. However, looking at the target images themselves, the cheap Plossl has much better contrast and color particularly noticeable in the view of the Moon image. It also pincushions slightly less than the Hyperion. I am not saying that the Plossl is a better eyepiece but I am saying that field of view should not be the only criteria and image quality is at least as important. You mention that Nagler is better than the Hyperion. I would hope so, since it costs twice as much. Cost is another factor you don't emphasize enough. That Nagler eyepiece costs more than that Celestron telescope. I am not convinced that putting a very expensive eyepiece on a cheap telescope with a shaky mount and questionable optics is a good use of your money.
Using an iphone in this video just obscures the difference in the quality of the higher priced eye pieces, You should. Have used a regular digital camera, The The cameras on phones are not alexactly.The highest quality and are not known for their ability to take astronomical images especially.
I‘m not upgrading my eyepieces: TV Nagler 31mm TV Nagler 22mm Type 4 TV Nagler 12mm Type 4 TV Nagler 5mm Type 4 TV Nagler 3,5mm Type 4 Fujiyama HD Ortho 18mm Fujiyama HD Ortho 12mm Fujiyama HD Ortho 7mm Pentax XW16mm UWW TV Powermate 2x Used on the following Optics: TV NP101 TS 102/f11 SDP Celestron 8“ EHD
It should be common knowledge that the eyepiece should cost as much as the telescope (I know it’s not common knowledge). For the Omni 102 from Costco, the Baader Hyperion eyepieces are a great fit at $200.
13:34 Sorry but televue picture is way worse than Hyperion. Lots of CA and lower sharpness is visible in TV eyepiece. It's quite strange, but this is how it looks
That little speach about the eye piece being like an apple computer is a bad comparison. Apple isn't on the same level in the pc world my man nor is it in the phone world.. they not trash but just not as good and cost way more.
That's my opinion too.. I use and manage pcs and Macs daily. The Koolade force is strong in the Apple 'lifestyle'. I owned an iphone once and never will again. But of course, you're welcome to see it your way.
I have the Celestron 102 and have used the Celestron zoom eyepiece along with some Celestron plossols. My other scopes (Orion Starmax 90 & XT6i dob) only use 1.25” eyepieces. Is it worth upgrading the 102 to 2” diagonal & eyepieces over the 1.25”? Or stick with 1.25 and get higher quality eyepieces to use with all 3 scopes?
Only if you have a 2 inch eyepiece that you really like. I found that the baader hyperion eyepieces offer the same performance at 1.25 as my 2 inch eyepieces (subjectively).
The Panoptic 24mm has been my prime eyepiece for outreach events for 15+ years. The odd thing about this eyepiece is that its current used price is 10-15% higher than the used price I paid all those years ago.
IOW, I have used a Pan 24 for all this time and if I sell it, I'll get my money back and have a profit.
It's not just an eyepiece: It's an investment.
That’s a good point!
They are a good investment. Like the Rolex of EP's.
That's just the ridiculous inflation of our governments.
@@Astronurd Pretty sure most of us live in a market economy, where the primary driver of inflation is supply and demand. Inflation (when it's above a few percentage points annually) is too much money chasing too few goods, the primary driver is changes in the labour market and supply shortages caused by market forces (but yes, it's partially due to the Ukraine conflict, baby boomers retiring, and lingering effects of the pandemic). Economic Analysis was part of my prior career in the Fortune 500.
This is 100% true. I bought a set of Svbony aspheric eyepieces off Amazon. They are cheap, but I was astounded by how much better the views were than through the junk eyepieces that came with the telescope. These are 62 degrees and it makes a big difference.
I have a $200 Svbony eyepiece. I haven’t tried it yet (it’s been a crazy summer with fires and floods), but it looks pretty solid.
@@LearnToStargaze I also bought a 3x Barlow from Svbony, apochromatic. It feels really solid and looks great. My favorite combo for high magnification is the Barlow and the 10mm eyepiece. Great combo for views of the planets and moon.
Chinese optics go to support chicom concentration camps and a communist regime bent on destroying the West. First they convince the morally retarded among us to pay for it, and buy the cheap chicom option made with slave labor and stolen patents. Buy made in the West options and bring back our businesses and jobs.
Im a beginner stargazer. Im getting my first telescope delivered today. Its a Popular Science by Celestron StarSense Explorer DX 100AZ. I'm super excited to try it out tonight! I appreciate your breakdown of the eyepieces. Im going to be watching a lot of your videos in the near future.
Thanks!
At the start of summer I was able to get a 4 pack of Svbony Red eye pieces on sale. And what a difference they are compared to the stock eye piece that came with my 6 inch dob. Almost like going from SD to HD lol.
This summer I was lucky enough to watch Europa slide in front of Jupiter, which was pretty awesome to see. And the other night I got to see the 4 stars in the heart of the Orion Nebula for the fist time. The eye pieces I always have with me are a 9mm and a 32mm.
Do the red ones wiggle around in the focuser? I know there are washers you can 3d print to fix this
@@Lycan_24_7 I haven't noticed any wiggling around. Granted, them and the telescope are pretty new, so nothing is worn out yet.
I bought the Celestron kit of Plosll eyepieces and color filters at a store that had an open box kit marked down 30 percent. It came with 6 different magnifications from 32mm down to 6mm, and a 2x Barlow. The eyepieces I've used the most are far and above the 25mm and the 17mm, with some rare instances of using higher mag for moon viewing and photography. It does, however, come in a badass case lol. The Plossls have been good, but everyone tells me that once I can do it upgrade to the Televue but I think that's pointing out the obvious and I don't use my scope near enough at the present time to justify buying an eyepiece that costs almost half as much as my scope did lol.
Wonderfully clear explanations, esp of eyepiece FOV. I finally understand! Thank you!
You’re welcome!
This video alone demystified several things for me, thank you!!
Happy to help!
It wasn't till I bought my Televie 32mm Plossel and put in on my beginner Celestron Astromaster 114Eq telescope that I realized how beautiful the view is and saved my love for the hobby!
The eyepieces that come with beginner telescopes is like looking through a pinhole in a piece of dirty plastic. Quality eyepieces are huge panoramic windows that are crystal clear!
Now that’s a nice eyepiece!
Unfortunately you got frauded by Celestron. Not only is bundled 20mm eyepiece absolute garbage, but also telescope is scam design made from rejects dumpster junk limiting it to low magnifications. It won't ever give views of the Moon and and planets properly made such size telescope gives.
Except for Schmidt-Cassegrains you're better off avoiding Celestron, which has been run by scammers for years making those hobby killers.
TelescopicWatch has honest accurate reviews, instead of pure ads/paid shilling of garbage which would have been deemed bad century ago.
If you get the chance to use a Televue Delos do so! Great video, not too sure about taking eyepieces apart to clean though.
I do a lot of public outreach, dirt gets everywhere inside and outside of the eyepieces.
I have a range of Televue EPs: 41mm panoptic, 31mm Nagler 5, 27mm Panoptic, 31/17/13/10/8 Ethos. I usually start the night with the 31mm Nagler, I'll pull the 41 out only if I have very dark skies since it has a 4.1 mm exit pupil with my C9.25 telescope, and I need the widest possible FOV with my SCT. The 8 only comes out when the seeing is near perfect. Some don't like wide field EPs for planetary work, but it is nice seeing all the moons alongside the planet. It's amazing looking through a high power EP without having a tiny pinhole to peep through.
Nice collection!
When I let people take a peek through one of my Televue Delos EP's(I have the entire set) or my 35mm Nagler the biggest thing they are impressed by is the actual window-like size of the lens. They are so used to the tiny lenses in typical EP's that they are excited to look through these "spacewalk" type. I'm use a Televue TV-85 refractor, and honestly the best views are really low power and wide of the Milky Way. I had the 24mm but replaced it with the Nagler 22... For newbies I recommend a refractor under $500 between 80-100mm and suggest they get a couple Celestron X-Cel EP's...
Delos for the win!!
I'm currently trying to build a set of Delos & Panoptics, but I keep buying other astro-stuff (Astro-Tech & Oberwerk have been getting all my $$ it seems). Love that 68°-72° AFOV. The APM 30mm UFF is the only other EP I own that comes close.
@@Astro_Ape They are worth the $ and never disappoint. I had the 24mm Pan and found the weight good, but bought the 22mm Nagler and sold the Pan for about what I paid for it. I use the 35mm Pan to sky surf and the Delos set for zooming in on areas and for planetary and moon watching. Have zero need for anything else. I tried other EP's over a couple years and finally found that all my needs were met by the Delos set, 35mm Pan and 22 Nagler. I only do visual astronomy so I'm set for whatever is up there to see. Also have a couple Baader filters..
Celestron X-Cels are rather expensive for their mid level AFOV.
Same price gets 82° UWAs. Though eye relief of those isn't exactly good for the AFOV.
But neither is eye relief good in Naglers, whose design those UWAs and Explore Scientific 82s copy.
@@Astro_ApeIs the APM UFF a good choice for a 10 inch dob? Do stars get "comet tails" around the edge of view?
@@Boxxkarr 30mm Ultra Flat Field is superb eyepiece for the money and basically top tier with sharp view to edges.
Some use it as low power wide view complement to Baader Morpheus, or TeleVue Delite/Delos.
But of course it won't correct aberrations of the telescope like coma of fast Newtonians.
Though coma is going to be less visible than with wider AFOV eyepieces.
Bad back. Hard to use eyepieces. So, I use my ZWO asi294mc camera and view image on my computer.
Love that camera. It’s a workhorse.
I’ve got panoptic 24mm eyepiece, televue powermate 2.5x. Next target will be a high magnification eyepiece maybe a 5 or 9mm naagler.
Not too far away, but of course there's a but...it depends on scope, observer and situation. Eye relief is a big thing. For me it means comfort and eye relaxaction, which makes the human side of things do better. The TeleVue Delos line is great for my age 50-60-ish eyes but others are better in some application. Various "ED" branded EPs like Agena and Astronomics are quite good with 50 degree fields and good eye relief.
For outreach an 8-24mm zoom (Meade or Celestron) is a good modest choice. For real observing I use an E24mm ES-82, TV Delos 17.3 + 10, and a modest 5mm Agena 5mm ED. The last does great on double stars. I'd be hesitant on going with Plossl EP's at low FL's. My scopes are mostly at f/6.3: An 8" Meade SCT usually with Celestron 0.63 rd/ff and Celestron Onyx 80mm f/6.3 EDF. Props also viewing without eyeglasses to ES 82 11, 8.8, 6.7 and 68-24.
Direct comparisons:
TV 14mm Radian (mine): dimmer than comparable Delos and Ethos.
TV 31 Nagler vs ES 30-82 (mine): very close. Largely dependent on wide part field the scope has.
Miscellanious Naglers to Delos and Ethos: muddy coloration in the Naglers.
Just what I've seen with my own eyes. Opinions may vary
I was thinking about buying new eyepieces but which one different people have different opinion so I didn't get answer, after watching your video I got my answer Thank you ,love your videos
I’ve wanted the 27mm panoptic for a bit but it’s currently on backorder on high point scientific. My first 2 inch eyepiece was the celestron 26mm e-lux which in fast scopes isn’t the greatest, so I’m planning on using the 27mm pan as a replacement/upgrade whenever it’s available again.
Celestron sells lots of cheap/substandard stuff using name. E-Luxes are Kellners good only for f/10 and slower.
28mm UWA would be good ~200 $/€ wide view eyepiece. Though eye relief is mediocre for the AFOV.
APM/SkyRover/StellaLyra etc 30mm Ultra Flat Field is little narrower but would have even better quality and glasses compatible eye relief.
New star gazer here, just bought a 10 Dob 250P Skywatcher. This video helped me understand more about where I want to go next when it comes to eyepieces. Thanks so much! New sub!
Thank you!
Courtesy of SkyWatcher's lackluster equipping, even if mostly observing moon/planets you'll need to replace that no good in 1200mm focal length telescopes 25mm Plössl.
60% wider view giving GSO 30mm Superview would be starter quality wide view eyepiece, though its astigmatism propably shows seriously in f/5 telescope.
Next step is high quality ones at ~200 $/€ with 30mm Ultra Flat Field and 28mm UWA.
For medium and high magnification giving eyepieces there's more different budget choises.
(though not many with wide AFOV and longer eye relief)
@@tuunaes I am keeping the Plössl lenses for when the really young kids are viewing. Also star parties I will likely use them to prevent theft of my nicer lenses.
Best wishes and Clear Skies*
There was no mention of weight. Many small telescopes will be out of balance with a larger eyepiece. I wasn't aware Terry Dickson passed away this year. Great review.
These eyepieces are all pretty light. They are less than half the weight of my 2” Meade eyepiece.
@@LearnToStargaze For Naglers it applies only to 1.25" barrel ones.
2" long focal length Naglers, along with closely related Explore Scientific 82s get very heavy with 31mm "Holy Hand Grenade/Terminagler" and 30mm Explore Scientific 82 weighting full kilogram. Those make 28mm UWA light at third less weight...
And really Naglers achieve that low weight and small size for AFOV by compromising eye relief.
Baader Morpheus line is better example of wide AFOV and longer eye relief. (kicks ES82s to curb in ease of viewing/comfort)
Good Day. Excellent presentation.
No doubt about Tele View products. $$$ 🤗😲
Best Regards
Barlows? I prefer Televue EPs but cringe at the cost. I found that the DeLite series and Panoptic series suit my needs. Even the 25mm and 32mm Plossels by Televue are above the competition. I also prefer 2" diagonals for refractors. The GSO 2" 2X APO barlow is pretty nice as is any Televue Barlow or Powermate.
I’m new to telescope and viewing. I bought a 8” dob and wanted to know if I should get the TV 24mm panoptic or the TV27mm panoptic. I have a 9mm nagler and a 13mm nagler currently.
I’d go with the 24. It’s plenty wide.
I also have an 8 inch dob and went with the 27mm Panoptic. I remember Ed Ting mentioning in a review that this is his most used eyepiece with an 8 inch dobsonian. So far I have been very happy
I have the Celestron 102 and have used the Celestron zoom eyepiece along with some Celestron plossols. My other scopes (Orion Starmax 90 & XT6i dob) only use 1.25” eyepieces. Is it worth upgrading the 102 to 2” diagonal & eyepieces over the 1.25”?
Or stick with 1.25 and get higher quality eyepieces to use with all 3 scopes?
These days I think I’d use higher quality 1.25
Yo John could you review the Explore Scientific 10 inch truss tube dobsonian
Just need someone to send me one!
Cant say I fully agree with the statement about no upside down in space because when you need to manually control/rotate the telescope this can make things confusing for a beginner. You get used to it over time though. Anyway, cool video thanks. One thing I'm curious about and you didn't explain is what is the real difference between the cheap and expensive telescope, cause you said they can provide nearly the same view quality, with a good eye piece.
The good telescope has minimum chromatic aberration, which is primarily seen in planets, and not deep sky objects. Since this video is about eyepieces, I left that to a short *footnote at the bottom of the page.
Mass produced mirrors are nowadays usually quite good, but that doesn't mean every cheap telescope is capable to good image quality.
Especially Celestron has many supermarket hobby killers with garbage design and garbage quality optics.
Also even if optics are good, whole lots of non-Dobson reflectors are seriously undermounted.
(and all cheap fast achromatic refractors have lots of chromatic aberration)
Hola John, greetings from Mexico. Quick one for you, I own the Omni 102 refractor and I am kind of stuck with 1.25”, which one do you recommend? I like 26” and higher, but not sure which brand should I get. Gracias.
It really depends on your budget. But the 24mm Hyperion is a fantastic eyepiece at a reasonable price.
Very nicely done video ! There are Televue EPs and then there is everything else. I was on a tight budget and bought a TV EP once a month. I wear glasses and want good ER so went mainly for TV Delite series and am very pleased with the 62deg and 20mm ER . I also bought a 24mm TV Panoptic which I like. I have one 82deg EP and sadly not a big fan of the UW EP due to distortion. A review on Barlow lenses and various diagonals would be nice. I have both a TV 1.25" and a 2"GSO ED Barlow and I prefer the GSO due to the removable lens cell that has standard threads. My Baader 2" prism diagonal is very nice. Keep up the good work!
You really know your eyepieces!!!! I guess I’ve been spoiled by the Televue Ethos series we have at the observatory where I occasionally do tours.
I can only dream of owning the high end TV EPs. Most in my area are more interested in astrophotography which is something I am starting to learn about but my prime interest is visual observation. Our club has a large SCT but it is used only with a camera/computer. So much to learn about!
Everything else 😂. There's eyepieces that are actually better than some of the televue range. They are indeed quality eyepieces but are overpriced IMO.
Eyeglass wearer here too. I had a bunch of eyepieces that I considered excellent (13 and 5mm Baader Hyperion and Orion Q70 32 mm) but finally decided to get a couple of Televue eyepieces (27 Panoptic and 9 Delite) and they are pretty superb (this is for an 8 inch dobsonian).
ahaha i upgraded to the plossl ones and now my stock kellner ones are ones to experiement with cleaning, though Im still taking care of the stock ones wow.
Great video love the eye pieces lol
I have mostly Telvue there are expensive but the views are unbelievable, and i have 2 explore scientific 100°20mm and 14 mm views are fantastic definitely 2 favorites, my other favorites 41mm panoptic 30mmexplore scientific 82°,22mm nagler ,its real hard to pic tbh lol,actually its all my eyepieces .
But if you like big deep views 41mm and 30mm and 22mm cant be beat ,im using 12"sct at f10 and at f6.3
That’s quite a collection!
Hello from NS, great video - subscribed!
Hello!
Hey john I want to know what’s the best computerized telescope for astrophotography under 500$?
I also have a dslr camera, I want the telescope to image detailed planets and detailed deep sky objects.
Thanks!
Hi! If you’re on a budget, you might be able to put together a system that can take images of deep sky objects for around $2500, but you’d be making some compromises. That said, AstroBiscuit has some tips that can bring the price down (building your own telescope for example) that might help. astrobiscuit.com
@@LearnToStargaze i dont want to spend 2500$, and i dont want to build my own one too😕
is the celestron nexstar 130 slt good for astrophotography?
i want to take long exposure images.
@@daryawwxdwdy9710 No, the NexStar will not work for long exposures. I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm the right person to ask about discount astrophotography. I think you should follow Astrobiscuit's channel, you might find something there that is helpful.
@@daryawwxdwdy9710 yeah it sucks I would love to be able to do astrophotography with a 500 dollar budget, but so would anyone. unfortunately there are some things in this world that you just need a lot of money to do, and astrophotography is one of them. You won't be able to until you are willing to spend at least 1000 1500 bucks to do it at a beginner level and even then don't expect pictures like you find online... they won't be amazing.
Deep sky objects are out of your budget, but you can do planetary imaging. Cheapest option is a used long focal length refractor, or reflector. I've got decent results with a 114/900 Newtonian on an EQ mount with a cheap EQ motor, but DSLR isn't the best choice for planetary imaging - better to buy a planetary camera.
GREAT VIDEO!!
Word of caution, the 24 hyperion is not well corrected in fast telescopes
Very beautiful✨
QUESTION?:
I have a Meade 10" LX200 GPS Cassegrain with "UHTC". I have a Tele View Diagonal. #1) What is the general opinion of Meade 1.25" Super Plossl Telescope Eyepieces? #2) My viewing is primarily planets, galaxies and nebula. If I buy just One Tele View eyepiece, what do you recommend? IF, I bought Two Tele View eyepieces, what do you recommend? They would have to be "1.25" eyepieces. Thanks in advance for all information & opinions. Best Regards
I just have a 26mm Meade Super Plossl. I use it all the time, often with a Barlow for viewing planets. If you buy one teleview eyepiece it would be the 18mm panoptic, if two it would be the 5mm nagler, although the 5mm would be a LOT of magnification with that Meade LX 200, though it may surprise you with amazing views of Saturn.
@@LearnToStargaze Thank You. My first view through a professional telescope was many years ago at the Miami Space Transit Planetarium, on their roof viewing Saturn. That got me hooked.
Jack Horkheimer had the late nite TV Show "Star Hustler" on PBS.
I met up with him in the Florida Keys to look at Halley's Comet.
Best Regards
@@timmotel5804 Awesome!
Comparing the 2m eyepieces side by side, I thought the Celestron looked sharper. I don’t know why, just what I saw.
2m ?
Do u have any eye pieces for the z100 telescope for higher magnification
Answered your other post.
Great Video. I just got my first telescope CELESTRON STARSENSE EXPLORER DX 102AZ with celestron Plossl 32 mm. eyepiece Thinking about upgrading the eyepiece. What do you recommend please?
The Omni 102 used in this video is the same optical tube as the StarSense 102. I’d get the Hyperion 25mm and the Hyperion 10mm.
@@LearnToStargaze Thank you.
Hello I have, a set of 120mm f/5.5 binoculars and I am looking for a decent set of low power eyepieces for them 1.25 fit. The bins, are also Achromatic I have been looking at some 30mm Japanese eyepieces but there are, lots of reviews out there of what may be compatible with the instrument so I am now at a, stalemate.
Hi! I have never owned binoculars that accept eyepieces. Let me know what you find out, I'd love to know.
Can you create a video about " how to use barlow lens in detail
Haha, it might be pretty short. “How to use a barlow lens…
“Don’t”
'even if you explain how its gonna be really short...
"place barlow in the spot you put an eyepiece instead of an eyepiece....
Place any eyepiece in the barlow as if the barlow is just the telescope."
the end
@@nostalgiaarcadefuture thanks that was helpful 👍👍
@@nostalgiaarcadefuture except in most cases, its bad advice to use one in the first place. It's better not to get into that. Barlows are the main reason people can't get their telescopes to work at all.
@@LearnToStargaze Oh I know, just filling in the gap. and no matter how much you explain that to someone they are probably still gonna use them, so why fight it. they will learn eventually.
Rather than the Tele-Vue 24mm Panoptic 1.25" is there any con to getting the Tele-Vue 27mm Panoptic 2" (for about $40 more)? I can't get both. I own an Orion 10" Intelliscope Dob.
That 27 would be perfect for the Dob.
@@LearnToStargaze Would then getting the Tele Vue 2" Big Barlow be a good option to increase magnification (for the moon & planets)? The Barlow costs less than a second eyepiece and it is 2" like the 27mm Panoptic.
@@robcicca About a year ago, @Jrocketoriginal asked LearnToStargaze to make a video about “how to use a Barlow lens”. LearnToStargaze’s reply was
“Haha, it might be pretty short. “How to use a barlow lens…
“Don’t” ”
Good information. It's too bad I didn't see this video before I purchase the eyepieces for my new Celestron 6SE. I am new to astronomy, and the 6SE is am first real telescope.. I had some cheap ones in the past, Question: How do you take pictures with the iPhone? I have IPhone 14 and doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe it is because I have tow lenses on the back of the iPhone.
You really need the Celestron NeXYZ to control the position of the phone. It’s extremely challenging to position the lens of the camera in the exit pupil of the eyepiece. When I 3D printed my own adapters, the position had to be down to the mm otherwise it didn’t work.
When he says apple computers have no competition... doesnt understand about computers or eyepices 🤪or doesnt have experience at all ...
I use both apple and PC’s simultaneously. PC’s for Linux virtual machine for Cosmos (satellite ground control software), apple for video work (Premiere), InDesign, etc. PC’s for SAP when I worked in Finance for Clorox for over a decade, but then apple for the astrophysics degree and then Masters in Engineering; for python (Spyder/Anaconda). But you’re right. I still don’t know what I’m talking about. No experience at all.
@@LearnToStargaze when a person needs to show is credits to justify theyre position...
I am doing a doctor degree in cybersecurity in playmouth , I have masters (berlin) in Computing engineering and POS in hardware design...
When you experience an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D overclocked for a fraction of the cost of an apple... then you will see what Premiere is.
Your channel have interesting things, but needs more humble, that crap book all the time says a lot ...
@@rogerrr1012 I’m impressed. Now just work on an English degree and very soon you’ll be able to write a paragraph using some recognised form of grammatical structure. You may even find you make some sort of sense.
I once asked a friend of mine what his favorite eyepiece was. He said Tele Vue Panoptic 24. I bought one. It is now my favorite, just like you. By the way, buying my grandchildren a telescope this year for Xmas. Bought 2 of your books to wrap up and put under the tree with the scope. Interestingly, i bought your books and some eyepieces but haven’t decided on the starter scope yet. So hard deciding.
Thanks Mark! Enjoy the books!
I finally got my eq mount its a national geographic 76eq and its all i can afford im a newbie into eq mounts I easily found saturn using my telescope and planning to replace the eyepiece with better eyepieces im still worried that my telescope will fell of its eq mount
Hopefully the view of Saturn was okay and not too much trouble. Viewing Saturn is pretty easy in a normal telescope, but there is so much extra going on with that eq mount that it can make it very challenging to point.
@LearnToStargaze, for the best views and close up for planetary purposes, what EPs do you recommend for starsense dx5?? Any advice would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
Hi! Commented on your other post.
I have skywatcher evostar 90/900 eq2 mount,what mm eyepieces are best for my telescope ?
A 30mm eyepiece giving 30x magnification would maximize contrast on DSOs, assuming your dark adjusted pupil is 3mm.
Im pretty new with telescopes and I got the CELESTRON StarSense Explorer LT 114AZ telescope are there any recommendation of what eyepiece I should get to get the best out of my telescope? thanks in advance!
Unfortunately that telescope, like quite many (Chinese) Celestrons is total scam with braindead design and rejects dumpster optics.
So you won't ever get proper high magnification views of planets or the most rewarding celestial object, our Moon.
Bundled 10mm eyepiece propably already approaches limits of that bad optics. Also designs makes it far harder to collimate for keeping that limited from the start performance.
Bundled 2x Barlow is also total plastics garbage best used as cushion between anvil and hammer.
At low magnifications bad optics isn't issue, but focal length bloated artificially by cheapo Barlow in focuser is problem for getting wide views.
32mm Plössl would give the widest possible view in 1.25" size eyepieces.
Though if there's major light pollution, decreasing magnification lowers contrast between stars and sky.
(there are some more expensive eyepieces giving as wide view at higher magnification)
Not really, for that scope, it would be better to upgrade to a scope that's not "bird jonesed" then the eyepiece for about the same price.
Hey~ Celestron Nexstar 6SE with Celestron 2-Inch XLT Diagonal Mirror and Baader Hyperion 24mm is good combo to start?
Absolutely!
Pretty good video
What make and model over 100 degree field of view eyepiece would be best for quality and affordable point for Nexstar 127SLT telescope i.e. 1500 focal length, please? I want to show my wife Saturn and we both wear glasses and she is clumsy so the view needs to be big.
Why 100 degrees? Those aren’t very common and not required at all for planets. You might try one of those Hyperion eyepieces, like the 10mm, the FOV is quite large, but not even close to 100 degrees. You can see the example this video, the C5 telescope is basically the same as your 127.
@@LearnToStargaze Thanks for the reply. Won't the 100 degree give us bigger image. We both wear glasses and after bigger image. Some have suggested 9mm magnification for this scope.
@@YASAJTV no, FOV has nothing to do with magnification. It has to do with the size of the circle you see when you look into the eyepiece. Focal Length determines magnification.
XWA eyepieces don't work well with glasses, because of eye relief being very mediocre for AFOV and you would see only center parf of the field easily.
Heck, already 80° UWAs need pushing eye really close and basically need "peeking around the corner" to see field edges.
Baader Morpheus are about as wide AFOV eyepieces as you can get with longer eye relief.
Hi, i am thinking about buying a telescope and i am wondering if the GSO DOBSONIAN TELESCOPE 250C is a good option. And if i could see nebulas with it.
Yes, that would be amazing. Seeing nebalae is about the darkness of your sky, not the size of the telescope.
Ok thanks
Have you used a variable polarizing filter instead of the nd filter you have before? Can’t decide which to buy
I have not.
Magnification is the only needed ND filter for the Moon.
Haven't found any need to dim down the view and I have 10" Dobson.
And when observing the Moon and planets you should aim to avoid eye's dark adaptation: Resolution of scotopic vision is major amount lower than that of photopic vision.
@@tuunaes interesting!
@@limebulls While point sources, like stars, stay as points no matter the magnification, surface sources have their light "spread thinner" the higher the magnification.
In fact per surface area unit on retina their image won't ever get higher than by naked eye and telescope can only make image bigger. Eye's pupil diameter sets limit for that.
When observing especially the Moon it's helpfull to have some light around to minimize eye's attempts to adjust to lower light, because it's brightness cycling which causes that discomfort. (Moon isn't any brighter than daylight)
Exit pupil around 1mm would be good minimum magnification. (Exit pupil = Eyepiece focal length / Telescope focal ratio)
And using as much magnification as seeing allows helps especially with full moon, which has actually decent amount of details with big enough aperture and magnification.
hello ive been using my telescope for around a week now, i havent got any filters but my main question is if the finderscope should have low magnification cause the moon through the finderscope looks a little bit small, is the main scope more magnified? just subscribed, thanks👍
Have you watched my “How to Use Any Telescope” video?
@@LearnToStargaze ill make sure to watch it when i get back from school, thank you🙂
Whats the best eyepiece to see jupiter and saturn?
Depends on the telescope. Probably a 10mm eyepiece for a long focal length scope, and a 5mm eyepiece on a short focus length scope.
@@LearnToStargaze I have a celestron 4se
@@jponz85 This would be my go-to eyepiece for that telescope: www.baader-planetarium.com/en/accessories/optical-accessories/eyepieces/10mm-hyperion-68%C2%B0-modular-eyepiece.html
I like Pentax eyepieces more than TeleVue.
I am a 76 year old and in astronomy since I was 7 years old. I have some high end APO refractors, 80mm, 85mm, 110mm, and 152mm. I also use SCTs....8", 11", 14". I also use DOBS from 8" up to 22". I have gone through several brands and models of eyepieces all these years and like @anata5127 have mostly swapped all of them to Pentax's full range. Mainly because they simply work as good as or better than others but also have nitrogen sealed optics to prevent internal dewing and are comfortable to use for long sessions. The 1 1/4" versions are all parfocal which is a big advantage. I still have one TV 32mm Plossl and some Lunt and Coronado solar specific eyepieces for use with my Ha solar scopes. Many eyepieces that are larger AFOV have problems with artifacts at edges, reflections, etc. If you want a very good eyepiece for not too much money, the TV Plossl is a good choice. But I have had mixed results with the other TV eyepieces and no longer own any TV except for that 32mm Plossl. In particular the very wide AFOV eyepieces have too many negatives for me. To me the only reason to use one of those ultra wide field eyepieces is with a DOB to minimize having to move the scope as much. A simpler eyepiece design will yield superior views.
Frankly before adding eyepieces, the first choice IF you have a scope that uses a diagonal is to upgrade the diagonal to a much better one. The diagonals that come on most scopes is a very poor quality one. TV, BAADER, Astro Physics, Burgess, are a few brands I can recommend. It is surprising to me when I see a SCT owner with the stock diagonal and using TV or similar high quality eyepieces. That premium eyepiece is a waste of money unless you upgrade to a better quality diagonal.
Each type of scope and purpose will work best with certain eyepieces so rather than buying a bunch at the same time.... it is better to ask others with different brands and models if you can try theirs on your scope. And don't buy based on what others use or recommend without first trying them on your scope.
Hi so i was attaching a barlow lens to my telescope It failed but when i tried to reconnect the diagonal mirror it wont attach it kept falling off and a cone shaped object fell off now it just wont attach pls help my telescope model is celestron 70AZ
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@@LearnToStargaze I did contact you but how to send pictures? And will i grt the message on my email?
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Can you help me out I’m trying to align my finder with my 8 inch dob.I found a chimney pot about 100 metres away but can’t achieve focus with any eyepiece.I tried with a 2 x barlow and it focused perfectly.I’m quite sure it’s not out of collimation so wondered if you have any suggestions???clear skies tonight and desperate to get outside✌️
It’s quite possible that 100m is far to close for that telescope.
@@LearnToStargaze so why did it focus with the barlow and it focused fine in the past with the same target.
The Barlow changes the position of the focal plane, moving it backward, in your case it moved it into the range of the eyepiece for that distance. Try a star or planet this time. Saturn is optimal this time of year.
@@LearnToStargaze ok thanks for replying much appreciated live and learn I guess✌️
If i have a 1.25 T adapter on a camera and insert it into a 2" barlow will it give me a 2" view?
What do you mean by a 2” view? I think you’ll just need to test it. Sounds like it depends on the size of the sensor in the camera.
I seen a video that said 2" has a wider field of view
@@ryanfahrne5318 I think that's more of a generalization when talking about eyepieces. 2" eyepieces capture more of the "image" projected by the primary lens or mirror, and often has a larger diameter glass... but Field of View is more a function of eyepiece design.
Hi i am wondering if all eyepieces and filters of different brands are compatible. And if they can be used on a dobsonian.
Yup! All telescopes accept 1.25 inch barrels and larger scopes take 2 inch barrels, too.
That was quite interesting, but seriously, using a telephone to judge quality is a no no...
How would you show (not tell) the difference?
@@LearnToStargaze As you managed to capture the eyepiece's output with a lensed camera anyway (which is different from the approach when doing astrophotography) I would recommend to use a full frame sensored camera with an (self printed?) adapter and a 50 mm lens. 50 mm is known for representing the human's eye field of view.
@@Bigalinjapan good tips!
The pincushioning you see in the TeleVue eyepieces is there by design, and it is not the result of a disagreement between your eyepiece and your iPhone. It really does look that way to the eye. We've tested them out here in the store and saw the same thing.
The reason it's there is that many telescopes suffer from some form of visual aberration that the pincushion effect through the TeleVues compensates for.
That’s interesting. I didn’t notice it visually. Maybe the brain just ignores it too.
Handy video for beginners to the hobby. It may be clearer for beginners to refer to focal lengths in terms of length (long/short) rather than magnitude (high/low) so it is not conflated with magnification (high/low).
You cannot correct with an expensive eyepice an image distorted by cheap telescope's lenses. An f7 4 inch achromat might gather the same amount of light as an f7 4 inch apochromat but you won't see the same quality image no matter what televue eyepice you use.
I'm getting ready to order ur book.this may sound stupid can I use it in the United States let me know so I can order thank u
Yes, of course. Unless you’re in Antarctica, most of the targets are visible anywhere in the world.
@@LearnToStargaze thank u just ordered it
I own close to 30 TeleVue eyepieces, including three Ethos (17mm, 13mm, 3.7mm). Yeah, crazy, but I own a binoviewer and thus own two 24mm and 19mm Panoptics. I’ve also been bitten by the collector bug and have several discontinued TV eyepieces. I also own thirty telescopes. Crazy, I know. I need to sell at least half my gear.
What a collection!
so if we can....go with 2 inch?
Two inch focusers, require two inch diagonals. All of these eyepieces work with 1.25 inch focusers. For larger telescopes, those which accept two inch diagonals/focusers, you can removed the 1.25 inch adapter (which in some cases doubles as a barlow), and you're left with a high focal length eyepiece that fits two inch diagonals.
@@LearnToStargaze I just a new Celestron Omni 102 for $80. In the box!!. Before I start to buy a better eyepiece should I just go the 2incg route? I already have an svbony diagonal in 1.25 and I like it. However, is 2 inch better?
@@schutztruppe that all depends on the eyepiece. If there is a two inch eyepiece that you like, then you’ll need one. I think these Hyperion eyepieces are the way to go, since they fit the 1.25 inch barrel, but seem to offer a 2 inch equivalent experience.
@@LearnToStargaze thanks for all the help. I just sold my power seeker Monday night and picked up this Omni 102 Tuesday night. I love it already. We go camping a lot and needed something not so touchy like . Collimating the mirrors.
@@schutztruppe great to hear!
You focus too much on field of view. At the 13:28 point you compare the 25mm (Plossl?) with the 24mm Hyperion. The Hyperion has a much wider view and doesn't show the inside of the eyepiece barrel. However, looking at the target images themselves, the cheap Plossl has much better contrast and color particularly noticeable in the view of the Moon image. It also pincushions slightly less than the Hyperion. I am not saying that the Plossl is a better eyepiece but I am saying that field of view should not be the only criteria and image quality is at least as important. You mention that Nagler is better than the Hyperion. I would hope so, since it costs twice as much. Cost is another factor you don't emphasize enough. That Nagler eyepiece costs more than that Celestron telescope. I am not convinced that putting a very expensive eyepiece on a cheap telescope with a shaky mount and questionable optics is a good use of your money.
In the video Nagler seems worse than Hyperion.. I looked at it 5 times!!
Honestly, it was impossible for me to see the difference, maybe because I'm a noob or maybe because I was watching on my phone.
It’s mostly about wide clear views to the edges of the image. A good eyepiece should make it feel as if you’re floating among the stars.
Oh I get it now, I rewatched it, I was focusing on the actual pictures instead of the overall view. Thank you.
Was it an I phone?
Using an iphone in this video just obscures the difference in the quality of the higher priced eye pieces, You should.
Have used a regular digital camera, The The cameras on phones are not alexactly.The highest quality and are not known for their ability to take astronomical images especially.
I‘m not upgrading my eyepieces:
TV Nagler 31mm
TV Nagler 22mm Type 4
TV Nagler 12mm Type 4
TV Nagler 5mm Type 4
TV Nagler 3,5mm Type 4
Fujiyama HD Ortho 18mm
Fujiyama HD Ortho 12mm
Fujiyama HD Ortho 7mm
Pentax XW16mm UWW
TV Powermate 2x
Used on the following Optics:
TV NP101
TS 102/f11 SDP
Celestron 8“ EHD
who will spend $350 for the eyepiece if person barely accept to pay $200 for the whole telescope from Costco ????
It should be common knowledge that the eyepiece should cost as much as the telescope (I know it’s not common knowledge). For the Omni 102 from Costco, the Baader Hyperion eyepieces are a great fit at $200.
13:34 Sorry but televue picture is way worse than Hyperion. Lots of CA and lower sharpness is visible in TV eyepiece. It's quite strange, but this is how it looks
Liked for the use of the word “worser”.
@@LearnToStargazeIm not a native speaker so relax ;)
@@groundhoppingwlkp3622 it just made me smile, that’s all.
And I have to comment/like so it clears the notification in RUclips-studio :-). Can’t have any hanging notifications!
Chinese troll..hyperion is made in communist china
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Well, besides being terrible the eye pieces are now busted yeetin them onto the table
Yeah comparing mac pcs with teleview eyepieces is a poor comparison
Depends how much you like macs I guess.
Agreed! Televue eyepieces are premium. Mac PC'S are just another computer.
@@freeman10000Apple is the TeleVue of the computer industry and they objectively make the most powerful and efficient computers (except for gaming)
Smallest 8" newtonian i have ever seen
Pretty sure it’s the standard size.
@@LearnToStargaze I was referring to a picture in the video that clearly was of a 6"
That little speach about the eye piece being like an apple computer is a bad comparison. Apple isn't on the same level in the pc world my man nor is it in the phone world.. they not trash but just not as good and cost way more.
That’s your opinion.
I agree with the phones, the phones are definitely overhyped.
But the computers give outstanding performance though.
That's my opinion too.. I use and manage pcs and Macs daily. The Koolade force is strong in the Apple 'lifestyle'. I owned an iphone once and never will again. But of course, you're welcome to see it your way.
@@LearnToStargaze
It's a fact.
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Eww, Apple computer comparison.
I have the Celestron 102 and have used the Celestron zoom eyepiece along with some Celestron plossols. My other scopes (Orion Starmax 90 & XT6i dob) only use 1.25” eyepieces. Is it worth upgrading the 102 to 2” diagonal & eyepieces over the 1.25”?
Or stick with 1.25 and get higher quality eyepieces to use with all 3 scopes?
Only if you have a 2 inch eyepiece that you really like. I found that the baader hyperion eyepieces offer the same performance at 1.25 as my 2 inch eyepieces (subjectively).