What Is The ACTUAL Difference? Touring VS Bikepacking Bikes

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  • @Cyclingabout
    @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +115

    Guys, let's see what's the most popular!
    Hit the 👍🏻 for BIKEPACKING or comment "touring" for TOURING! 😎 You can support these videos over on Patreon! I've had 1.4 million views on my touring videos in the last month, we're getting somewhere folks!! www.patreon.com/cyclingabout

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 3 года назад +4

      Thumbs-up for backpacking! I have gotten into e-motors and batteries and converted a beach cruiser bike into an e-bike. It's good for rides less than 100km. It's nice to see a video of what frame and mounting requirements look like for bikes that can go out for several days (backpacking) and for weeks or months at a time (touring) so I know what to look for in future frame purchases.

    • @andrewwilliams6963
      @andrewwilliams6963 3 года назад +12

      Touring, there's no such thing as over built when you are miles away from services.

    • @Massaliotis
      @Massaliotis 3 года назад

      Touring

    • @kingoroyan2880
      @kingoroyan2880 3 года назад

      uiuiii9i

    • @5plus9equals7
      @5plus9equals7 3 года назад

      Touring

  • @lucaMMXI
    @lucaMMXI 3 года назад +550

    I am now more confused about the two categories than before :D

    • @joshriles84
      @joshriles84 3 года назад +8

      Me too

    • @balderdashery1
      @balderdashery1 3 года назад +10

      me three

    • @arielperetz7210
      @arielperetz7210 3 года назад +11

      me 4

    • @yengsabio5315
      @yengsabio5315 3 года назад +10

      Ah, that problem with TOO MUCH categories... and subcategories!

    • @dmitry6472
      @dmitry6472 3 года назад +22

      Yeah that's for sure. In this kind of situation I think if you do not know the difference, huge probability there is no difference for you.

  • @Indusxstan
    @Indusxstan 2 года назад +19

    Your honesty just shines through every video of yours that I watch! Thank you for your channel. India has tremendous scope for cycling, both for the sake of exercise & hobby as well as transportation, especially in the new generation, and we appreciate content like yours. Regards from India 🇮🇳

  • @markhall445
    @markhall445 3 года назад +35

    Love the honest, matter of fact style here. There’s a lot of crossover between bike types and as stated, the rider is responsible for choosing the setup for the intended purpose. The good news is there’s not a lot of bad choices availability if the rider works with the guidelines stated.

  • @SailingCorina
    @SailingCorina 3 года назад +15

    I have a Trek MTB that isn't designed for either but I have everything to set it up with road touring or bikepacking. It works perfect for both and for me it's all about the bags. Panniers don't do well on single tracks but longer road tours need much more capacity for a more comfortable trip. It's really about how much food and water you need to load also. Anyway, people overthink everything and get caught up in spending money. I just watched a great documentary made in Mexico showing trail and tour riders on cheap bikes out riding the foreign "professionals". 😆

  • @durianriders
    @durianriders 3 года назад +197

    50k views overnight on a touring bike video. What is going on in cycling land? Good work man!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +25

      Just pumping out some touring content and stoked people like it! 🙏🏼

    • @loveulez
      @loveulez 3 года назад +21

      Everyone wants to escape

    • @Jaburu
      @Jaburu 3 года назад +21

      bike sales exploded due to Covid. I got this recomended because watching road bike videos

    • @geroldp
      @geroldp 3 года назад +4

      Yep biking industry on greens during ds pandemic season

    • @choanlpoto
      @choanlpoto 3 года назад +32

      durianrider got his mindblown, a bike video where you dont need to expose your girlfriend ass to make views. WOW content matter. insane.

  • @peterfodor9789
    @peterfodor9789 3 года назад +88

    This video strikes to the point with with unequalled accuracy, only wish there were more people with your work ethic, keep up the ecellent reporting!

    • @kendrewreviews
      @kendrewreviews 2 года назад +1

      I agree! No long-winded introductions or building up. It gets to the point quickly.

  • @tomlarocque4720
    @tomlarocque4720 23 часа назад

    I've learnt more in this 10 minute video than I have in reading hours of blogs and viewing other videos. Thank you !

  • @AllIsWellaus
    @AllIsWellaus 3 года назад +2

    Fantastic video. Having a friend who has travelled throughout Europe, South America and is currently touring through New Zealand. It has been fascinating being shown the various parts to his bike and as equally fascinating the types of luggage he uses.

  • @richardmiller3808
    @richardmiller3808 3 года назад +6

    Another Excellent video! Clear, defined and straightforward. Thank you!

  • @HikingFeral
    @HikingFeral 3 года назад +5

    The last time I rode a bike I was around 14, I'm now 33 and getting one again. I'm already a bushcrafter and Survivalist so I absolutely cannot wait to go on an extended bikepacking trip! I'm pretty poor so getting a new but budget steel frame mountain bike from Halfords and a pannier rack so I can just bungee my current backpack to the bike. Gonna be a wild ride learning all this stuff haha can't wait.

  • @Twinstarrider
    @Twinstarrider 3 года назад +7

    A few years ago I was researching touring bikes and came across cyclingabout. Lots of good info (and now just found your RUclips) Ended up a steel tourer that’s been my main bike for a few years (Kona Sutra). Keep up the great work - cheers

    • @Biking360
      @Biking360 Месяц назад

      Great bike choice :)

  • @Choedron
    @Choedron 3 года назад +6

    It is not true, that bikepacking bikes are mainly used for shorter trips. People use them for racing self-supported races across continents - this is becoming more and more popular - often riding more than 4-5000 km as one long timetrail. Like the Trans American Bike Race (US), Trans Continental Race (EUR) and Indian Pacific Wheel Race (AUS). Hardly no one would ever use a touring bike for these races. They are simply too heavy. I personally use a 1x titanium gravelbike with drops and triathlon bars - and it has a SON dynamo hub to charge bike computer and smartphone. After trying bikepacking and getting ultralight tent, sleeping bag etc., I do not think I would ever go back to the big panniers - even if just touring. I can have my entire sleeping arrangement in my front bag and it weighs only 1350 g - and less if I only bring a bivy bag. Clothes go on the rear bag. Spareparts, phone, extra powerbank, food, ultralight towel etc. in the frame bag. Dynamo hub charger in the toptube bag. More food in the food pouches on the handlebar.

  • @c.g.c2067
    @c.g.c2067 2 года назад +91

    No difference, the only difference is that they want you to buy two different ones.

    • @perraccca
      @perraccca 7 месяцев назад

      True

    • @dukabear2640
      @dukabear2640 3 месяца назад

      Word

    • @grumbazor
      @grumbazor 2 месяца назад

      Thank you!

    • @bruceclark5627
      @bruceclark5627 25 дней назад +2

      Well Mr. Smarty pants,how the hell else can I charge an extra $1,500 for a bar swap?

    • @josuezuniga6776
      @josuezuniga6776 8 часов назад +1

      Don't exponse them with truth 😂😂😂😂

  • @abdelkaderdada9892
    @abdelkaderdada9892 3 года назад +17

    Finally, a video that talks about the difference between bike touring and bikepacking and that sums it up. it's rare on youtube!

  • @anthonyricci73
    @anthonyricci73 3 года назад +31

    Great video.
    My choice? "Credit Card" touring on a bikepacking bike through wine country in France!

    • @CharlesM236
      @CharlesM236 3 года назад +2

      OK to be sure, without a bike ok

    • @plusbonus1165
      @plusbonus1165 3 года назад +2

      Zen riding , keeping it simple ..

  • @g.d.1722
    @g.d.1722 3 года назад +4

    Another great video! Thanks! I really enjoy watching whatever you put out. It is well researched, thorough, and very respectful of the time and intelligence of your viewers! Congratulations and keep them coming. I will buy your book.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +3

      Much appreciated! I'm trying my best to bring the more technical side of bikes to the most people because touring is awesome. 😎

  • @matthewstephenson7173
    @matthewstephenson7173 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for the video,well researched and valuable points made.

  • @smythie27
    @smythie27 Год назад +1

    I recently have got back into bike riding, and the information you supply is informative and easy to understand. You have even got me thinking about venturing into one or two night bike trip (around Australia of course)🙂🚲

  • @innocentiuslacrim2290
    @innocentiuslacrim2290 3 года назад +24

    This is an excellent comparison between the two touring setups. My Genesis Longitude is fine for both ways of travel I guess. The only upgrade I am now thinking is getting a dynamo hub and some connected lights for it. It would be just safer on the road if I could keep the lights on all the time without worrying about their batteries.

    • @elazarpimentel5340
      @elazarpimentel5340 2 года назад +2

      me six. Actually, I am even more confused, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a touring or camping bike, I thought it was a MTB with lots of bags hanging on it. Such types, much wow.

  • @Blck_Stallion
    @Blck_Stallion 3 года назад +30

    And now the “bike packing bike” can’t get off my head

    • @rentheseus
      @rentheseus 2 года назад +3

      Drink everytime he says "bike packing bikes"!

    • @beanzbeanz
      @beanzbeanz 2 года назад

      So annoying lol

  • @slewbangles
    @slewbangles 3 года назад +9

    Excellent video, just the thing I was looking for

  • @CurdPattysRoll
    @CurdPattysRoll 3 года назад +4

    you categorized all the mess in my head regarding this topic straightaway , thank you! it's clearer picture now

  • @Or5mr
    @Or5mr 3 года назад +1

    Man, I love your thorough explanations, very informative.

  • @elbarto7160
    @elbarto7160 3 года назад +14

    i have just converted a 1992 trek 930 singletrack to a touring bike with new wheels, tubus rack and a brooks saddle, i love it!!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +2

      Sounds awesome!

    • @fcknsick
      @fcknsick 3 года назад +2

      I love my 930s. Except I'm taking it the "retro mod" route and I'm planning a tubeless setup, 1x10 drivetrain, and dropper post

    • @elbarto7160
      @elbarto7160 3 года назад

      @@Cyclingabout it really is, its just awesome to build your own bike the way you want it without compromising

    • @josephwaggener9307
      @josephwaggener9307 3 года назад +3

      I converted a 1991 930 to touring back in 1998 and rode from Boulder, CO to San Francisco. It was perfect! I re-built the wheels, changed tires, expanded the gearing and upgraded lots of parts.....one of the funnest bike projects I've ever done! Hope you love yours.

    • @recyclespinning9839
      @recyclespinning9839 3 года назад

      I have a 930 converted to commuter. Did you change the fork to a touring fork also?
      They are awesome bikes, trutemper frames and made in USA. what happened to Trek . They made some awesome stuff in the 80' and 90s

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 3 года назад +11

    This was a very interesting, informative and entertaining video on this specialised subject, thank you.

  • @steveretiredandcycling
    @steveretiredandcycling 3 года назад

    Excellent video. My Jamis Renegade Elite has the strength and all mounts necessary for minimalist bickpacking as I realized on my recent 825 mile bikepacking adventure from Key West, FL to South Carolina. The bike is rated for 25 lbs on the front and the same on the rear. I had 18 lbs on the rear and 12 lbs on the front of my carbon frame. I weigh 168 lbs. Performed like a champ!!

  • @SEThatered
    @SEThatered 7 месяцев назад +2

    After working with bikes i grew to hate rear kickstands.
    They inevitably bend or destroy rear triangle.
    Center stand is better, and a double-swing-out is the best (as opposed to stiff two-legs)
    But even better is a stand from tent poles that supports your bike by the seat tube.

  • @ChristopherDempsey13
    @ChristopherDempsey13 3 года назад +9

    Touring! I have a 2012 Vivente World Randoneur. Solidly built. Really like it, and it performs well on tours.

    • @OmmerSyssel
      @OmmerSyssel 3 года назад

      Excactly..A well made Randonneur is a splendid construction, way better than the majority of these clumsy industrial monsters 🙈
      A triple butted Koga Miyata Randonneur from '90 is still hardly made any better!
      Some people are shockingly ignorant...
      Safe travels and fair winds 🚲🚲🌄🍻

  • @aroundoz
    @aroundoz 3 года назад +6

    Excellent video and I actually watched it twice. Although I understand and appreciate the concept of bikepacking by keeping it as light as possible so you can basically mountain bike with gear, I will probably always use panniers and racks although I have learned to lighten it up considerably over the years. They are so much simpler and will never limit where I can go.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +3

      I don't really have problems with panniers, even off-road. Most trails are wide enough. 👍🏻

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy Год назад

      @@Cyclingabout panniers are only an issue on heavy motorcycles offroad, bicycles are light enough that you can literally lift it over a narrow section if required.

  • @normawingo5116
    @normawingo5116 8 месяцев назад +1

    I absolutely love your videos! They are well organized by category, and slam full of information, and you don’t waste one minute of my time. Best channel for information on the internet, hands down!

  • @niko918
    @niko918 11 месяцев назад +2

    I rode south and crossed the Panama Canal. When I crossed the border into panama from Costa Rica, I met a few guys that were biking to Panama City. This was a great example of the difference of the ride a bike has vs a motorcycle. As I headed south and went from the pacific to the Caribbean side of the country many times… the guys on bikes were headed south on the main highway, they rarely deviated from the highway as they just didnt have it in them to pursue additional miles and they missed out on the best parts of the country. I did 26 k miles on my tour south of the us boarder eventually crossing the Panama Canal and the guys on bikes did less than 3k. Some times bikes work, but I think adventure and exploring on a moto will get you to more places. Not that more is always better, of course… but

  • @Time2RockUrLive
    @Time2RockUrLive 3 года назад +1

    I'm learning so much from your videos man. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

  • @tomekvilmovskiy6547
    @tomekvilmovskiy6547 3 года назад +13

    That one topic I was asking for. ) Good job

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +4

      My pleasure! This has been a very requested topic.

  • @lechatdovah
    @lechatdovah 3 года назад +76

    "Bikepacking bike" sounds strange. Like, a bike you use to pack another bike in.

    • @mnh1270
      @mnh1270 3 года назад +2

      Lmao

    • @waltinseattle
      @waltinseattle 3 года назад +2

      @@mnh1270 a backpack goes on your back and a bikepack goes...

    • @nicojar
      @nicojar 3 года назад +2

      @@waltinseattle Yet you don't say "a back backpack". That's his point.

    • @waltinseattle
      @waltinseattle 3 года назад

      @@nicojar the parallel would be a bike bike pack. whats wrong with pack, pannier, saddlebag(s), , bed roll or bindle? do we really need new words? travoir is probably out of common use so I wont ask about it. just realize that if your trailer looses a wheel thats pretty much what you are left with .

    • @seitenryu6844
      @seitenryu6844 3 года назад +3

      The term is awkward. I've personally taken to calling them camping bikes instead. While you'd usually camp outdoors on longer tours(on or off road), calling it a camping bike emphasizes the typical off road use and configuration. At least in USA the connotation would be clear. It seems as the lines continue to blur, bikes may start to be categorized by the total weight rating vs a designated use.

  • @qkdfaust29
    @qkdfaust29 2 года назад +2

    I love your videos man. So, so useful. Because of you and Yohan G. I have gotten into Bikepacking. This year I've done two long trails in UK. Thank you for the videos you are sharing with us.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  2 года назад +1

      That's great to hear! All the best!

  • @paolopalicalligaris
    @paolopalicalligaris 3 года назад +1

    Many years on a Salsa Fargo now, still in love with this bike!

  • @jaimeduenas4162
    @jaimeduenas4162 3 года назад +3

    Thank you, very knowledgeable videos. Awesome bikes as well, but very expensive.

  • @TimFitzwater
    @TimFitzwater 3 года назад +4

    Interesting video - I guess I never even knew there was a distinction. To me it is all about the terrain and distance I guess. I tour on a vintage Trek road bike with updated wheels and drivetrain. But I guess I’m backpacking when I ride my Raleigh gravel bike for overnighters?

  • @jthepickle7
    @jthepickle7 Год назад +1

    My first touring bike (1974) was an old Cinelli frame from the 1960s. The pack frame broke in Morocco and was rebuilt using rebar. My bike pack was a Kelty back pack off its frame, folded over the rear wheel. My 'stove' was a wood fire - stainless spokes make for good brochettes. A kilo of dried camel hump got me across the Moroccan Sahara. Missing an oasis almost killed me. I rode all night, knowing I would die of thirst if the sun rose before I found water. I got a lot of puzzled looks in tiny villages in southern Algeria. One could tell that some people had never seen a bicycle up close.

  • @gcprost
    @gcprost Год назад +1

    I really enjoyed your video and I learned a lot as I started bicycle touring and bike packing nearly 40 years ago. One thing that was good about bike packing 40 years ago is that there were no rules against it. Some of the places I went are off limits to bicycles now. On the other hand I went some places that were entirely unsuitable for bikes. Yes, the bike packing bikes were shit as they were just mountain bikes with touring racks.

  • @carlrichards9333
    @carlrichards9333 8 месяцев назад +3

    The only difference is companies trying to differentiate the two to make more money....just get on your bike, add the gear to it and ride it....

  • @colnagocowboy
    @colnagocowboy 3 года назад +13

    Im still riding my Klien Performance with a sugino triple crank, suntour cyclone derailleurs and Brooks B17 saddle. Other than building spare/alternative wheelsets its been unchanged for decades.

    • @reserva120
      @reserva120 2 года назад +2

      I still use my Unicycle carrying my touring kit in plastic trash bags over my shoulders.. You an all your fancy state of the art stuff nonsense.. so stupid.

    • @MetaJamm
      @MetaJamm 2 года назад

      @@reserva120 Cool unicycle setup bro! Only problem - you dont travel.

    • @reserva120
      @reserva120 2 года назад

      @@MetaJamm be careful of what you speak, in other words ,don't be stupid..

    • @MetaJamm
      @MetaJamm 2 года назад

      @@reserva120Dont worry boi, i can take that risk. And yes, you dont travel, and they do. Well done! Keep it up!

  • @KowalskiVanishing_Point
    @KowalskiVanishing_Point 3 года назад +2

    I have a 2019 Salsa Fargo Tiagra. Love this bike. I've done some shorter tours (200-300 km) on varying terrain but with a more traditional touring set up, ie, racks, panniers, bungee cords, etc. Works for me. Plan on doing extended touring with it. As I am getting older one drawback is it could have a little lower gearing.

    • @Mraquanetchris
      @Mraquanetchris 3 года назад +1

      I did tour starting from Sitka to San Francisco through Vancouver Island on a Surly Troll. It did everything with confidence, including single track. The Jones H-Bars are the most comfortable bars I have ever ridden.

  • @chasingvenusfilmarts
    @chasingvenusfilmarts 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful video footage. Thank you for sharing.

  • @zach-m6894
    @zach-m6894 2 года назад +3

    Agree with all you said, great job. I did the Rhine our from Andermatt in the Swiss Alps to Hook of Holland over 19 days 1500 km . I used a Giant Toughroad 1x set up with full paniers. The bike is advertised as more gravel but it worked perfectly for me. I can also lighten the load considerably for 2-4 day bikepacking with the Ortlieb seatpost bag and handlebar roll. Once again good job.

  • @sabergo1
    @sabergo1 3 года назад +5

    The family and I rode from Regensburg to Passau along the Danube on three very diffferent types of bikes with various handlebars, frames, and drive trains. Two used panniers and two used a basket mounted on a rack. Our first such trip, but everyone made it (100km Day one, 60 km day two) and are talking about similar trips in the future. Thanks for the inspiration to take the first trip!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад

      That's awesome, I'm stoked you had a good time!

  • @abdulbakikillibalkadir8182
    @abdulbakikillibalkadir8182 3 года назад +2

    Awosome video,thanks for your good informations and advice.You speak english very fluently.I use your videos to support my english learning.Thank you

  • @govin._.d
    @govin._.d 2 года назад +1

    8:40
    Thanks for that line
    ❤️
    Fixie is my favourite

  • @tompaah7503
    @tompaah7503 3 года назад +3

    I was not even aware of a difference between touring and bikepacking, lol. But since becaming a patron for your channel I am wathing every video and learning something new every time. Awesome.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад

      Thanks for your support! It makes it possible for me to allocate more of my time towards these tech videos. 🙏🏼

  • @0fficialnomad
    @0fficialnomad 3 года назад +2

    You make some of the best and most detailed videos dude! I'm about to look if you have already, but I'd love to see you do a video on Recumbent Trike types, and the pros and cons. I was all about fat bikes, but now fat trike packing/touring is a whole new world.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +1

      Cheers! I have very little experience with recumbents, so the content here will probably be around upright bikes for the time being. 👍🏻

  • @alan12de
    @alan12de 3 года назад +2

    I appreciate a lot your videos. Many thanks. 👍🏻

  • @CyclingRandom
    @CyclingRandom 3 года назад +4

    Hey yo bro i like your information , i'm from indonesia i don't really good at speak english but can you explain a bike from indonesia like Polygon / Unite Bike I need To Know If The Bike Really wort To Buy For Touring/backpaking and then the roadbike as well

  • @eifos2945
    @eifos2945 3 года назад +7

    As a beginner starting research on this massive field, I found your video very informative. In the future, it might also be a good idea to explain what the differences between a bikepacking and a touring bike are, in terms of what sorts of journeys they each would be used for.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +2

      You can use either bike for either use!

  • @stevebailey7633
    @stevebailey7633 3 года назад

    Pretty much nails it. Very comprehensive and well explained as to the differences and similarities. I'm saving this YT link for all the times I see this question asked on the assorted cycling websites. Well Done !

  • @barorepor3079
    @barorepor3079 11 месяцев назад +1

    True. Any bike will do: every summer I do a two week bikepacking trip with my "normal" Bianchi endurance road bike through France and Spain starting from Switzerland. Roads are usually paved with the occasional light gravel - in the last years I learned the hard way what spares I have to take along....😜

  • @RedShoesSmith
    @RedShoesSmith 3 года назад +6

    New to the channel and damn, great info! I've been looking for some good urban/touring bike info for some time. Seriously looking at a Koga touring bike. Main qualities I'm looking for is reliability, ease of maintenance, and packability i.e. flights and train rides. Belt drive and Internal hub gearing is so fascinating, wish I had more access to this technology in the US.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  3 года назад +2

      It's a long shot, but Maine Bike Works has Rohloff and Pinion gearbox belt demo bikes they let you thrash around on. Otherwise, look for a Co-Motion dealer as they also tend to have Rohloff/Pinion/Gates bikes on the floor.

  • @DoomOfConviction
    @DoomOfConviction 3 года назад +4

    I bikepack with a XC Hardtail, it’s perfect.

    • @MediumHalf
      @MediumHalf 3 года назад

      What bike? I'm considering converting an old Trek 4300

    • @DoomOfConviction
      @DoomOfConviction 3 года назад +1

      @@MediumHalf any modern XC Hardtail will work just finde. I would Think about a 2x in the Front to get more speed and a nice slim tires.

  • @co7013
    @co7013 3 года назад

    All this shows there is a lot of interesting ground in between the categories. Finding out where your sweet spot is is key. Carrying more weight is not a goal in itself, and adding unnecessary weight can be avoided. A relatively sturdy but not too heavy bike and relatively light packing, and doing without unnecessary stuff like a bike stand, gets me in the spot where i like to be: light enough to be fun and even do some off-roading when wanted, sturdy enough to pack what's necessary.

  • @CargoBikeCowboy
    @CargoBikeCowboy 3 года назад

    My touring bike is a Surly Big Dummy. Love my longtail! Enjoyed your video very much. Thanks!

  • @More-Space-In-Ear
    @More-Space-In-Ear 3 года назад +26

    If only I was 30 years younger, those bikes looks amazing...

    • @YearOfTheDog82
      @YearOfTheDog82 3 года назад +26

      The best time to start bike touring was 30 years ago. The second best time is now.

    • @bjarkenielsen8515
      @bjarkenielsen8515 3 года назад +3

      Get that touring bike with high handlebar posiotion plus low low gearing, and go...............!

    • @More-Space-In-Ear
      @More-Space-In-Ear 3 года назад +7

      Would be great to do it but, time passed has left its tolls and now bedridden 😢. I’ve still got my MTB which was bought in 1984……nice Saracen ..

    • @soissesglaubsmir292
      @soissesglaubsmir292 3 года назад +2

      Hmm ... don´t know what exactly you mean with "old", but i started such activities last year with 49 :-/

  • @fullgasjaxon7572
    @fullgasjaxon7572 3 года назад +24

    Touring 👌🏻🚴🏻‍♂️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @user-vy2fm9dh5e
    @user-vy2fm9dh5e 3 года назад

    Thank you for your contribution to the video, which is very useful to me and answered the questions that I particularly concerned about and must know. I have not found these information on RUclips and some people gave the wrong ones. thanks again.

  • @attybong
    @attybong 3 года назад +1

    so many types of bike ... bottom line is whatever makes you happy. nice content !!

  • @amosluyk
    @amosluyk 3 года назад +15

    Until now, I thought bike packing and bike touring were the same thing... Something new every day :)

    • @FastBastar
      @FastBastar 3 года назад +4

      They should be the same tbh. There's no way someone goes bikepacking without rear paniers unless it's like a 1 nighter.

    • @plusbonus1165
      @plusbonus1165 3 года назад +2

      I watched the whole thing and still think they are !

    • @justjordan8018
      @justjordan8018 3 года назад +3

      Yes apparently you don't really have to be Touring to be Bike Packing. No one said you actually have to go very far or use anything from the bags. So I guess Bike Packing is for people that will not be Touring, just put some bags on the bike and ride around before they go back home.

    • @user-rk6sn7du4k
      @user-rk6sn7du4k 3 года назад +1

      @@FastBastar most people doing the tour dived don't use panniers and the quickest anyone has done that is 14 days

    • @felixfranke2838
      @felixfranke2838 3 года назад

      @@plusbonus1165 Very close for sure. In my interpretation, bikepacking has a sportive background (people extend their sport into an "adventure"), while touring comes from the travel side (people do an adventure and happen to use sports equipment - a bike). The result is similar but IMHO not the same. Watch the excellent video above and you will learn the differences.

  • @chrisholmquist7725
    @chrisholmquist7725 3 года назад +3

    Last week I biked upstream the Danube from Vienna to Linz, Austria. I have a 2001 Cannondale F500 that I brought over here from the USA, and made for the occasion into a poor man's touring bike. I live here and it's my daily/weekly steed. Would be super curious to hear some basic talking points about such a decision. I have a Surly rack which I loaded up with at least 30 lbs and camped along the way. I'm not super fit, but managed 85, 75, and 50km per day, respectively over a 3-day period. I know that if I was going to do a proper tour I'd need to invest in some better gear, but I really (really) enjoyed doing it with my existing kit, and in my current Zeitgeist, a hobo travels with what he's got. That being said, I think the aluminum frame is overbuilt for flatland, and the drive train performed just fine. When I look at the bike, I see a shape that resembles modern day gravel bikes more than modern day mountain bikes. In the end, I concluded that the setup I had was actually not so bad for the task. Anywho... enjoying the videos, makes me want to keep putting miles on my bike.... best wishes aus Wien.

    • @alexmorgan3435
      @alexmorgan3435 3 года назад +2

      Stick with what you got it sounds just right for you.

    • @2WheelsGood.01
      @2WheelsGood.01 3 года назад +3

      It's a cool older bike but I would've gotten rid of that suspension fork, it's less that ideal for road touring, especially since it's old. I did my South America tour in 2015 on a 1990 Specialized StumpJumper (Rigid steel fork) but upgraded all of the components, wheels and drivetrain to more modern ones. Geometry wise, those older bikes have decent touring geometry if you put on a tall stem.
      The issue with a lot of those older aluminum mtb frames is that they have no mounts compared to newer touring/bikepacking bikes.

    • @ronnie8446
      @ronnie8446 2 года назад

      @@2WheelsGood.01 Most Cannondales of the era had headshok , suspension you can lock out from the top of the steerer . Other half has one , its been her go to bike for going abroad. They are robust as the suspension is behind a boot and still going strong ( only maintenance is renewing air, o rings and some grease) Bikepacking has changed how people tour, and it’s getting like MTB with all the variations.

    • @2WheelsGood.01
      @2WheelsGood.01 2 года назад

      @@ronnie8446 after working as a mechanic at one of U.S's biggest Cannondale dealers, I would personally not tour on a suspension bike. It's totally doable, and it can be more comfortable, but I would never want to deal with suspension issues or maintenance, especially in non developed counties. My next touring build will be a rigid steel frame, 650b x 50mm wheels/tires, Rohloff hub.

    • @ronnie8446
      @ronnie8446 2 года назад +2

      Perhaps we have been lucky, it's been down the divide to Denver 2 trips to South Chile and Argentina and Kyrgyzstan on the dirt. I have a newer one the touring 26 with headshok a USA 🇺🇸 made one. 😁 Nice bike you are building up.

  • @unchewable1
    @unchewable1 3 года назад

    Another great post man thanks for helping us get out there

  • @davidjulseth8667
    @davidjulseth8667 2 года назад

    Very informative, covers a broad spectrum of touring, bike packing options 4 thumbs up!

  • @arturk3810
    @arturk3810 3 года назад +5

    Experience in every sentence.

  • @headasunder
    @headasunder 3 года назад +4

    touring (as light as possible on a tandem)

  • @musFuzZ
    @musFuzZ 3 года назад +2

    You are a wealth of knowledge. Good shit

  • @johnmainwaring6556
    @johnmainwaring6556 3 года назад +2

    Thanks. This was informative.

  • @tubegabi
    @tubegabi 3 года назад +4

    Best option: steel frame classic 26" mountain bike with 3x9 or 3x10 gear and classic panniers. Absolutely tested and reliable, easily replacing parts all over the world, frame easy to repair, geometry perfect both for road or offroad terrain, tires from 1" to 2.3", gear ready for 55 km/h or for the steepest offroad terrain... Classic panniers allow to fast access to anything, with no hundred narrow bags all over the bike...

    • @alwayslearning7672
      @alwayslearning7672 3 года назад +1

      Sorry to burst you bubble, I've been touring around north,central and south america on a 3x9 11-36 cassette Surly Troll for over 2.5 years now and I'm in Mexico now and I can tell you that 26" anything is absolutely obsolete! Dead!
      It has been a nightmare.
      I can find zero parts for it, anywhere.
      Definitely forget tires.Literally nothing anywhere.
      Traditional wisdom is gone out the window, China has flooded the market with 27.5/29" everything and that's what killed the 26" anything over the last 5+ years.
      Seriously ,everything I have for my bike I had to buy off Amazon and luckily had it within 4 days.
      I've spent days and more than a week looking for what was considered simple parts "easily" found :shifters,cassettes,chains,tires,disc rotors 160mm,BB,brake pads,etc...Nada! Super frustrating.
      I can't buy a new bike now but I will sell this 26" 3x9 Troll in a flash the first chance I get. You can get everything for it online still. Maybe in Europe too where people still ride 26" bikes. My friends who toured 10+ years ago are mind blown about this change.
      Good luck!

    • @viveviveka2651
      @viveviveka2651 3 года назад

      @@alwayslearning7672 Interesting comment. What's wrong with getting things off the internet?
      Another strategy is finding used parts locally. I see 26" wheels and tires all over the place in California - flea markets, garage sales, thrift stores, bike co-ops, etc. Often in excellent condition. Same with components. Many shops and co-ops have parts bins.
      And there are people selling all these things on eBay.
      If you go with reliable components, and treat them well, there shouldn't be a lot of need for replacements.
      When something like a tire or chain looks like it will need replacing soon, you can order or replace it in advance.

    • @davidrowe8747
      @davidrowe8747 3 года назад

      My (admittedly limited) experience with a small-frame 26-er (vintage Gary Fisher Hoo Koo e Koo) was that it was difficult to fit the pannier bags far back enough that my heels wouldn't clip the pannier bags. On a multi-day tour, that would get a bit tiresome, as well as wearing out shoes and bags.

    • @viveviveka2651
      @viveviveka2651 3 года назад

      @@davidrowe8747 Some vintage mountain bikes had longer stays. Bikeforums.net has a touring forum (or sub-forum) that has threads, including a sticky, on mountain bike conversions (to touring bikes).
      Some 80s bikes had very long chainstays (Specialized Stumpjumpers, for one example - there were many others). Some were medium-long, but still long enough to avoid heal strike.

  • @matthiasreichshof9896
    @matthiasreichshof9896 3 года назад +4

    6:52 the femtometer space between rear tire and seat tube makes me anxious.

    • @GabrieLight
      @GabrieLight 3 года назад

      I make a refreshing to my bike, i change the tire, the space on mine become like in picture.
      Is it good or bad in your opinion?

    • @marcalvarez4890
      @marcalvarez4890 3 года назад +1

      @@GabrieLight Ride in mud? Bad damage. Ride in dust? Fine.

    • @GabrieLight
      @GabrieLight 3 года назад

      @@marcalvarez4890
      👍👌

  • @lakwatsabisikleta6914
    @lakwatsabisikleta6914 3 года назад

    New bike tourer here 🤗 thanks for this very informative videos 🙏

  • @aWandering_soul
    @aWandering_soul 3 года назад

    Best video for t
    best video for the subject! thanks for sharing!

  • @sabamacx
    @sabamacx 3 года назад +6

    Seriously drool-worthy bikes you're showing off in the video.
    (There are some seriously heated replies to this video --- relax guys)

    • @D0A17599
      @D0A17599 3 года назад

      @Toographictosayontelevision You think you're better than me???? Meet me outside. NOW!

  • @timporter8886
    @timporter8886 Год назад +3

    There's no difference..its camping, using a bike! Listening to all the bullsh*t just makes you open/more susceptible to all the marketing garbage out there!

  • @bjarnebak7615
    @bjarnebak7615 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very professional U-tube with lots of good info´s. Thanks.

  • @govin._.d
    @govin._.d 2 года назад +1

    Now I'm never gonna forgot it
    Great video 👌✨

  • @imanfrancisco
    @imanfrancisco 3 года назад +1

    Very informative. Thanks for this video

  • @chitaloff
    @chitaloff 3 года назад

    Thanks for this =) I've just bought Fuji Touring disc 2020, and going install an electric motor on it for a really big tour. What's your opinion, is a gear motor-wheel reliable enough for long touring (about 1-2 years) with distance 40-60 thousands kilometers?

  • @HeatherSpoonheim
    @HeatherSpoonheim 3 года назад +1

    I have a 700c gravel bike. The drive train offers great road performance, and all the mounts keep some light bike packing open as an option. The road oriented drive train limits my bike packing options, and pretty much eliminates serious touring. My bike is perfect for my needs, but I'm glad to learn about other forms of cycling. Thank you for all this information.

    • @WanderABit
      @WanderABit 3 года назад

      By drivetrain you mean crankset? A year ago I mounted MTB crankset with converter, this year I "built" custom casette and I couldn't be happier (apart from the fact Shimano screwed up their job with compatibility). In total I have 27 gears (3x9) with 200% range on crankset and nice cadence from casette.

    • @HeatherSpoonheim
      @HeatherSpoonheim 3 года назад

      @@WanderABit I mean groupset - cranks and cassette included. I'm running a stock shimano 105 setup. Loving it.

    • @WanderABit
      @WanderABit 3 года назад

      @@HeatherSpoonheim You lost me with "loving it" and "it eliminates touring" :-) For a road bike it is understood but for gravel one...

  • @Rubbernecker
    @Rubbernecker 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video, very informative!!

  • @vc1954
    @vc1954 3 года назад +2

    Hey! Q: what touring bike would you recommend for someone who uses his bike for work during the week and 2 to 5 day camping trips during vacation?

  • @7xndx
    @7xndx 3 года назад +1

    Nice video as always... THANKS!

  • @chitarrabasso6283
    @chitarrabasso6283 3 года назад +1

    This was great! Thank you.

  • @a__duck
    @a__duck 3 года назад +1

    My in the works bikepacking kit uses my Trek Remedy enduro bike. Plan to mostly do shorter trips in the mountains with ultralight hiking gear. Want to try riding a hike I did a few years ago with a couple summits and alpine descents. Very excited to try riding scree with my tubeless downhill tires. Still need to make or purchase a frame bag to work around my rear shock but my triangle is big enough to make it worthwhile, have a sweet roll for the my tent, clothing and sleeping kit. Went for a jerrycan for admin use. Hopefully I can stash my food, camelbak, water purification and cook kit in the frame bag. Trying to avoid a saddlebag and backpack to keep my dropper post useful for comfort and downhill performance.

  • @DerekMehraban
    @DerekMehraban 3 года назад +1

    Enjoyed this video and just subscribed. Will watch more for sure. Thank you!

  • @andreluisstahl
    @andreluisstahl 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot for sharing so interesting information and in a clear way! Good job!

  • @logtothebase2
    @logtothebase2 3 года назад

    Certainly in the Uk there has been the distinction of fast touring or winter bike by traditional frame builders, likey a racing frame with slightly relaxed angles, clearances for mudguards and eyes for rear racks. but strictly for the road.

  • @shelleyoconnor6538
    @shelleyoconnor6538 5 месяцев назад

    Epic, thanks, this is really helpful.

  • @TJ-hs1qm
    @TJ-hs1qm Год назад

    With a 2 x or 3 x I just need to drop the chain into the next lower front chainring to reach for the light gears. This is such a time saver. While a 1x needs to shift the chain up the entire cassette putting much more stress on the drivetrain especially fully loaded. I'll never part with my Shimano XT 2x12. I find the 22/36 front and 10/45 rear setup perfect for climbing steep mountains in the Alps.

  • @sigitwahyu1408
    @sigitwahyu1408 Год назад

    I am learning so much from your videos... thanks

  • @aristoscharalambous9050
    @aristoscharalambous9050 8 месяцев назад

    Hey guys, I’m cycling across Australia next year and I am just wondering what is the best type of bike to choose for going from Byron to Perth

  • @tomekkruk6147
    @tomekkruk6147 3 года назад +1

    The difference is the marketing mainly. The rest is insignificant and down to preference, what kind of bags you like to carry with you.

  • @markrcca5329
    @markrcca5329 3 года назад

    makes sense for someone who does a lot of touring or bikepacking!

  • @disseminateourstrength9268
    @disseminateourstrength9268 3 года назад +1

    Sweet, mate!Keep it up.

  • @EddieGunner
    @EddieGunner Год назад

    Nice videos mate. I know that we can use any bike for cycling on long terms, i did it with old mtb bike . But now i have Ghost Square Cross Essential so im wondering is it better to go with bikepackin at this bike or classical with paniers and stuff. taking in consideration that i never before used bikepacking, so any advises ...

  • @captaincoyote1792
    @captaincoyote1792 3 года назад +1

    Outstanding video, amigo! (And has the added benefit of forcing me to mentally convert kilograms to pounds!). This is one of those videos I will repeatedly return to as I investigate my next build. Thank you, sir!