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Would you do a video on two things; 1. Trel in the Wax & Wayne. 2. How you think the two worlds of Scadrial and Roshar will come to meet? Brandon has two more books in the timeline of Stormlight (5 in one timeline and 5 in the future). It is speculated that Wax & Wayne will find their way to other worlds. Maybe through Harmony.
@@chanceryder9736 what do you mean by come to meet ? Like when both worlds have public knowledge of the other existing ? Because we know at least 3 worldhopper on Roshar from Scadrial
Too many? It's just Dalinar and Jasnah. Renarin has bonded a voidspren whereby making him not a radiant, by definition. I believe Adolin will reawaken his sword but he will become something different than a traditional radiant.
@@DivinePenguin00 Elokhar was also about to bond a spren right before Moash killed him. He starts to say his first ideals and begins to glow with stormlight. Although, I'm not 100% sure if its implying he was about to become a radiant, or if he was becoming Kaladin's squire like Bridge 4
While I tend to agree that making Adolin a radiant is going to be difficult. I can't think of a more perfect way to become an Edgedancer than remembering the spren that has been forgotten. I also suspect this is going to be how you get around the problem that it typically has to be the person who broke the oath. If Adolin makes an oath specifically referring to her it might work.
That's true, it does seem like the perfect way to become an Edgedancer doesn't it? That could definitely be the loop hole that allows him to revive her. Ahhh I'm excited to see how things play out in book 4!
@@CapturedInWords I think the specific Oaths of the Edgedancer help with this, too. "I will remember to those who've been forgotten" and "I will listen to those who've been ignored" are exactly what he's doing with Maya. He's listening and remembering a fallen spren that everyone else treats like a nuke on a stick.
I thought I was up on the fan art, but God damn you find the best stuff. Watching this video and others you've done on Stormlight, it's easy to forget there's no official depiction of the series. The art you find is just so... right.
One theory that I heard is that Taln was betrayed by some of the other Heralds. Some of the support was the death rattle that says something along the lines of "Bastards, you've killed me! While the sun is still hot I die!" We know that some of the rattles seem to come from Taln, such as the one about "the burdens of nine become mine. Why must I carry the madness of them all?" Additionally, it was noted that Taln tends to take on impossible challenges, sometimes dying sometimes not. If he was killed in the aftermath of one of these, it would not immediately be suspect. The theory holds that at least three of the Heralds, but certainly not all of them (as Kelek only arrives after the others have departed"), worked together to enact this plot. It would have needed Ishar, as he thought of the Oathpact and would have known whether or not only Taln's return to Braize would have held back future desolations. It is also thought that Jezrien was in on it, as he was king of the heralds. I believe that Nale could have been the third member as in Edgedancer he mentions being in contact with Ishar in order to prevent the return of desolations. I believe that, following the mad guidance of Ishar, Nale believed that Knights Radiant could take up the position the Heralds abandoned, potentially sending them to Braize where they could break in Taln's place. Thus, he became the enforcer of their plot.
I think Sanderson will most likely make him a radiant. That said, he wouldn't do so at the expense of characterization. Characters are made interesting by how they deal with conflict. As said in this video, becoming radiant would sort of "solve all of Adolin's problems". So since the books have been foreshadowing the hell out of Adolin's eminent radiantification, what's the solution? Give him new conflicts. Maybe turn his radiance into a new problem. Maybe make the first ideal impossible for him to say. Maybe make new enemies impossible for him to deal with, while Kaladin and Shallan absolutely wreck them. Maybe make his radiance turn him into a total douche, then make Shallan leave him. There are endless ways an Sanderson could make him radiant, but still keep him interesting.
I would love for him to stay normal too, but it seems that Sanderson likes to add powers to his normal characters. Elend in Mistborn, David in the Reckoners. He then counters that by adding greater power to the opposing side, so their added power value actually only helps a little.
@@jonathandoda8762 HEAVY Cosmere spoilers here: . . . . . . . If youve read Mistborn: The Secret History, you'd know that the bead Elend swallowed actually looks like its going to have a lot of significance in the future of the Cosmere. In Mistborn, they find a single bead. In reality there were 2 beads of that metal there, and the first was stolen before Vin and Elend arrived. I wont spoil the book entirely, but I'd really recommend reading that book if you enjoy the Mistborn series. Theres tons of context there and it gives a lot of hints as to how the different worlds in the Cosmere are connected.
THere has to be something going on with Kaladin and Syl. Notice how Syl was refered to as ancient daughter. There was an interaction between the sea captain on Honor's path and Kaladin in which the captain said Honor was setting up an heir and Syl is basically the only surviving spren that could become one. So my theory is, Syl will become Honor.
When they were talking about Honor setting up an heir I think hey were actually talking about him passing the mantle of creating honorspren onto the Stormfather. There is almost no chance Syl could become the next Honor as that appears to require a human taking up the power of a shard of Adonalsium. Like Dalinar seems to be on the path towards.
A theory I've been ranting about is over the voice that spoke to Dalinar at the end of Oathbringer and the seemingly sentient Nohadon in his last dream of the book. I'm convinced that this was either Nohadon or Tanavast, either of the two somehow living on as a cognitive shadow. Considering the former was a Bondsmith and the latter a Shardholder, albeit a shattered one, I think it's a possibility and will eat my boots if it turns out I'm wrong.
I think anyone who pairs with the Stormfather gets a sort of mental download that can be recalled later. We see Nohadon, Tanavast, and, maybe, Gavilar at the end of WoR. (During the dream he has where he mentions his wooden shardblade collection.) It's all but confirmed that Gavilar was bonding with the Stormfather, Nohadon, too. That's my guess at what's going on anyway. I mean, it could also be that the way Bondsmith's "Spiritual Adhesion" works is that it gives them a conduit to the Spiritual Realm that allows for a bit of cross-talk across the boundary of death. It could also work in a similar way to something mentioned in Mistborn: Secret History and soul expansion.
@@fictionmyth That's a very interesting interpretation, I always thought that it was some sort of Adonalsium cognitive shadow influencing and guiding the characters. As they always talk about god beeing dead, but there is actually a god that no one knows about, but has very little power. I take that from the feeling of warmth that Dalinar feels in his vision when he first arrives in Urithiru
If Casitor* was one of the unmade it would explain why Iri and Rira were so quick to side with Odium. Sure they blame it on Adolin’s shards but that seems like a justification for a culture pre conditioned to accept Odium’s power. The thrill resided in Alethkar and it fell. Molelock* resided in Kharbranth which also fell. There’s a pattern.
Another top tier stormlight video! A lot of the Stormlight 4 predictions I've been seeing have been more focused on the characters and their relationships. That's all fine, but I needed that lore fix as well! Can't wait for more cosmere vids!
One theory of my own is that each order of radiants also has a "hidden" power that they dont share with their sibling orders, like when kaladin seemed to summon windspren around him to counteract the winds of a high storm, or dalinar merging the three realms with gloryspren, forming honor's perpendicularity, and I dont know if this is one of those instances or not, but shallan was able to make solid illusions, not just light, but making matter move on the battle against odium
You hit it right on the dot..I've read and listened to these 3 books about 13 times all together..graphic audio really did a great job at capturing the feeling of the character's..I always get misty eyed when dalinar combines all 3 realms ....awesome
Glad you are spending time with Stormlight! I found you first for your PR vids, but I'm so over him... (LOL). Your guesses may or may not be correct, but they seem very well reasoned. Thanks for putting them out!
Wow! This is so impressive both in presentation and reasoning, I almost want to accuse you of spoiling these things for me! I'm half kidding, of course. Great video!
Hmm. Interesting Dawnshard theory with Aimia. I always thought that Aimia was destroyed because of the destruction of Honor's perpendicularity when he died.
Just finished OB, and am waiting for the paperback version of RoW to be out. I feel like I need to reread all three books now because there is so much information that I missed like wow
Amazing video! Loved it, every part was so cool. I cannot wait for Rythym of War and this theories video is fuelling my anticipation for it even more. Where did you get the music for this video? It was so atmospheric. I am completing an epic re read and due to start Words of Radiance soonish.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed! I have a subscription to a site called MotionArray which is where I get all my royalty free music, I think this is one of the main ones I use motionarray.com/royalty-free-music/fantasy-33666 I'm rereading the books before the 4th one comes out too, so hyped!
I love your idea of living shardpklate. What if, ideal 4 gives normal shardplate and ideal 5 gives living shardplate? there's a reason jasnah's shardplate was described differently to Shallan's. She could already have sworn all 5 ideals
I doubt that she swore the fifth ideal. The only knight known to have sworn it is Nan, that is the ideal to become Law. That seams the kind of ideal that would take away the personality of a person making the more like spren that man. (Not that spren don't have a personality)
Great content, subscribed! I think there's a real chance that most of these theories are realized in Book 4. Thanks for taking the time to make these, it's clear you put a lot of time and energy into each video. Do you mind sharing what software you use for your videos?
Captured in Words Oh My Gosh I Love Your Channel And Your In-depth Way Of Kings Was Literally Perfect Also Gonna Continue With The Rest Of The Cosmere Books Onward To Mistborn Era 2 Books
I think Adolin could fit a number fo different orders, including Edgedancer and Stoneward. I predict that he will revive Maya and become an Edgedancer, and that we will learn a bit more about boding a spren in the process. Maybe there was a Stoneward spren that was considering bonding with him, but cant because Maya did instead.
I definitely love how big the world of roshar is, but it’s kind of difficult seeing kaladin as the main character anymore to me because of this. I’ve grown to love dalinar, I liked shallan until the end of Oathbringer, and I kind of like adolin. One thing that is annoying about this is that Kaladin is intentionally being held back so that other characters can catch up, but it’s gotten to the point that he’s kind of in the dust of everybody else developmentally. Shallan apparently now has control of her identities, dalinar is basically honor at this point, adolin is quickly learning to be himself, even the others of bridge four like Teft are outpacing kaladin developmentally now. I just hate how he feels kind of dead in the water right now compared to quite literally every main cast character and most side cast characters. I hope Rhythm of War really gives him a big conflict upfront that will have a good progression potentially leading into book 5.
Kinda agree. Teft caught up to Kaladin so quickly ... It's also a bit unfair that Kaladin have to figure out the ideals while the rest of the windrunners simply know what to say. Kaladin has to at least learn the fourth ideal pretty early in the book, otherwise, he will no longer be the main character for much longer (in terms of power scaling)
Leonardo Fonseca amen to that. I think Brandon realized that he paced Kaladin a little too fast so he relied heavily on his depression as a way to slow him down. I’d even argue that he’s already been surpassed by Shallan, Dalinar, and Jasnah. Shallan summoned a whole frickin army, Dalinar is apparently Honor, and Jasnah may possibly have her own Shardplate.
@@ihavenoname8628 Kaladin's powers are kinda meh compared to the others. Unless he can lift freaking mountain or something like that, just flying around isnt much.Shallan, Dalinar and Jasnah have god like powers. I hope Sanderson will give some extra twist to boost the Windrunners's abilities somehow
Leonardo Fonseca I kinda hope he gets a boost in his abilities, but I’m not a big fan of the idea of him being about to lift full on boulders or something. I can honestly see one of two things: 1. He becomes an incredible support character, being able to lift whole armies of people and can bestow stormlight flying abilities for a ridiculous amount of time. Or 2. He can distantly lift people up now and can also lash double the speed.
Adolin is definitely going to become an Edgedancer, but he will fight it, denying his own worthiness, every step of the way until he finally has to acknowledge that he has been living all four oaths at once. I don't know what the last two oaths are, but the best example of remembering those forgotten would be his mother, and listening to those ignored would be his brother. My favorite theory is that the only way for them to defeat Odium is to lose the battle of champions. Dalinar will need to swear the 4th order-specific oath, and this will allow him to bind oaths to the spirit world, creating new heralds. His champion, probably Kaladin, will be struck down and go to Braize where he will block the fused from coming back to life. So he'll die and join Talenelat, preparing himself for eternal torture. Only difference will be the men and women who died while following Kaladin will join him there. When he sees all the people he thought he failed (including his little brother) ready to follow him even in death, he'll get over his grumpiness and melancholy. He will chose to lead them in battle with the fused, unwilling to allow any of his followers to be tortured. This will offer an afterlife very similar to the one his mother believed in.
Everytime I drive through traffic on I-70 (it’s the highway in Colorado that goes East-West through Denver and the Rocky Mountains) my road rage inevitably devolves to just muttering “airsick lowlanders” while glaring at other drivers Edit: also as for Adolin reviving Maya, I think it’s totally plausible. I just recently read Arcanum Unbounded, and I think Sanderson is planning on doing more with the Cognitive and Spiritual Realms with Roshar and Stormlight. Considering that spren are manifestations of thought powered by the Shards on Roshar, I don’t think they can truly die. Thus the deadeyes. I’m curious to see how Maya is different from other spren, especially how bonding would work but I do think Adolin is going to bond her, and give her new life through new oaths. Whatever happens I think Sanderson is going to have some awesome and game-changing plot and character development in book 4. Can’t wait to read.
Can you make a video on your opinions of Hoid's end goal? He is very clearly collecting investitures from different worlds, but to what end? When offered power during the event of Adolnasium, he refused it. Did he change his mind? Was the shard of power offered to him not enough, because he wanted all of it?
I'll definitely be making a video on this at some point! Hoid's end goal is one of the Cosmere things I am the most interested in learning about, especially after what he said to Dalinar: "And while I am your friend, please understand that our goals do not completely align. You must not trust yourself with me. If I have to watch this world crumble and burn to get what I need, I will do so. With tears, yes, but I would let it happen." Also back in WoK he says something along the lines of, "I wonder, if you split a man into his different emotions, then stuck him back together, would he still be the same?" so I wonder if his goal is to try and put Adonalsium back together, or perhaps merge himself with the reconstructed Adonalsium 🤔 I'll have to make a video on this sometime in the next few months
it seams that i have missed alot of stuff...dont remember half of this stuff...guess i got to go through the books again, cause i cant just go through oathbringer with out doing the others first
I wonder what's in shadsmar around urithiru. I feel like jasnah will be the one to find out. Being able to go to and from shadsmar. The fact that it has not happened yet and now shadsmar is introduced and seen in oathbringer. I'm thinking we just might find out.
Yesss! This is something I'm super curious about as well! I wonder if the sibling can be found around Urithiru in shadesmar. I hope Jasnah checks it out in book 4!
Okay, so flaws in theory number 2. The Stormfather, Nightwatcher, and the Sibling existed before Honor and Cultivation came to Roshar. The Stormfather and Nightwatcher became Splinters of their associated Shards AFTER Honor died. These three spren probably represent the three aspects mentioned in the Eila Stele: Wind (Stormfather), Stone (The Sibling), and Spren (The Nightwatcher). They were involved with the Bondsmiths before Honor was Splintered and the Stormfather became his Cognitive Shadow. We don't know enough about the Nightwatcher to say when this happened to her yet.
Great video! I thought you were going to discuss something about what could happen to Renarin's tainted spren. That point is one of the ones I'm very curious.
I think.it would be Navani who would bond with the sibling. Her interest in the revival of Urithuru and her closeness to Dalinar makes her the ideal candidate for a Bondsmith radiant.
Navani is definitely a good option for becoming a Bondsmith, she also has a big interest in fabrials and Urithuru is essentially one giant fabrial. Very interesting!
When can we expect the WoR in-depth summary and the OB in-depth summary? No pressure or anything, I’m just pumped for RoW and don’t want to re-read it all.
I have a constant struggle of choosing whether to support Radiant! Adolin or not. Adolin is a very layered character and they’re being peiled off book after book. Seeing a normal character next to super powered people is very interesting. But I’m leaning towards wanting Adolin to become a Radiant because the story of dead spren becoming alive sounds more interesting to me than what his story is now (even if his story rn is also interesting and Adolin is my favorite character). Adolin as a Radiant could be one of the most badass characters in the Cosmere, he fits the ideals of an Edgedancer. (he also fits the description of a Stoneward though, so we’ll see).
my personal theory is that Ialai is on of the Unmade specifically Ba-Ado-Mishram, who is described as “keen of mind, a highprincess among enemy forces” in the quote from Hessi’s Mythica for Chapter 106. Ialai is frequently described as scheming, and she disappears right after the battle at Thaylen City. Shallan cites her leaving indisgrace, but maybe it was because Odium called.
I like all of these theories. I’m thinking Adolin is either going to be a “true” edgedancer since Lift isn’t a normal edgedancer. Or he’ll be some deviation of a different radiant order
On the note of living shardplate you forgot the time that adolin noted that renarin was wearing full plate but couldn't recall when he would have been able to get it. Think that was during the thunderclast fight but before jasna attacked him
First of all very nice video. I like your theory about Urithiru and the possibility of having Shallan going into Shadesmar to "check" on the Spren there. But I think she will need help to "reboot" the tower and that could very well be Dalinar. He's learned how to unite the 3 realms and him and Shallan has so far been - I believe - the only 2 radiants combining powers. Might that also have been one of the many foreshadowing moments Sanderson love to tease us with? About the dawnshards also, might Azure's sword be one of them?
That's a really good idea, I could definitely see Dalinar & Shallan combining powers to awaken the tower! And Sanderson definitely loves his foreshadowing so I could see him doing that. I believe Azure has an awakened sword like Nightblood, though if it was a dawnshard that would be super interesting!
6:06 when/where was it stated that the vessels of the two shards were lovers? I dont seem to remember it in OB? Can someone tell me which chapter its from
Finally finished Oathbringer so I can safely dive back into your content. 100% agree that Adolin should never be radiant. He should instead represent the best of humanity, despite his faults.
I clicked so hard my laptop broke! I'm so hyped for Rhythm of War! I'm really interested in Moash. Most people seem to hate him, but I honestly really sympathize with him. He's kind of assumed the role of Kaladin with the spren, so I think he's going to be a really good villain! I'm really curious about Adolin's story too. I really hope Sanderson doesn't become predictable and kill the only non-radiant in the group!
I always thought that the part of Odium that keeps him "captive" was locked in Aimia. BTW, Wtf with Kaladin's windsprens at Shadesmar and when he tried to rescue the parshendi (Sha and the crew).
The most popular theory is that Shardplate is formed from a Radiant's "secondary Spren" Windspren for Windrunners, Logicspren for Elsecallers, Creationspren for Lightweavers, ect. The idea is that as Kaladin gets closer to the fourth Ideal, he'll be able to do more and more stuff with Windspren. This theory could be backed up by Mr. Sanderson himself saying in a livestream "... But nobody know were Shardplate comes from, except for must of the Cosmere nuts, they've basically got it figured out" (paraphrased).
I agree with most of them. You missed a thing though, Aimia's capital Akinah has an Oathgate Jasnah confirms that it had been destroyed long ago, but how can it be destroyed? I think there is a perpedicularity there, which will enable humans to go back to their original planet to retrieve the Dawnshards. She mentions it in one of the meetings then.
I think that there were originally 10 Dawnshards, and each could use only one of the 10 Surges in a *major* way. I also believe that there is now only one left, and it is in Aimia. I think it's something like Bondsmith machine, using spiritual Adhesion to do big stuff. The other 9 were corrupted by Odium, which accomplished two things. One, he was able to bind those Surges to the Fused. This explains why there are only 9 Orders of Fused. Second, each of those Dawnshards, when corrupted, was turned into one of the Unmade. And that is why there are 9 of those.
Loved the video I’m so excited for book 4 this just makes me more excited if that’s even possible Also I love the music that was playing at the end do you know where I could listen?
Thanks! Book 4 couldn't come any sooner! The music at the end is called 'Fantasy' and can be found here: motionarray.com/royalty-free-music/fantasy-33666
I don't think it will be in Rhythm of War but I highly suspect that we will see either Vasher (Zahel) and/or Vivina (Azur) will travel to the Alethi Crypts to turn the dead light-eye-statues into lifeless. If you've read Warbreaker you'll know that Vasher has previously created an army of living statues using breath, an army that was nearly unstoppable, and the way the Alethi preserve their dead light-eyes by soulcasting them into statues is just too perfect for Brandon not to use that.
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Would you do a video on two things;
1. Trel in the Wax & Wayne.
2. How you think the two worlds of Scadrial and Roshar will come to meet? Brandon has two more books in the timeline of Stormlight (5 in one timeline and 5 in the future).
It is speculated that Wax & Wayne will find their way to other worlds. Maybe through Harmony.
Excited?! I'm losing my mind w8-ing for it!
Please do Will Wight books
@@chanceryder9736 what do you mean by come to meet ? Like when both worlds have public knowledge of the other existing ?
Because we know at least 3 worldhopper on Roshar from Scadrial
100 days to go, but who’s counting!?
The only reason I don't want to see Adolin become a radiant is because too many Kholins are.
Too many? It's just Dalinar and Jasnah. Renarin has bonded a voidspren whereby making him not a radiant, by definition. I believe Adolin will reawaken his sword but he will become something different than a traditional radiant.
@@DivinePenguin00 Don't forget Shallan is now a Kholin. Renarin is also a radiant. He bonded a corrupted spren, not a voidspren
are doylist reasons really reasons?
@@DivinePenguin00 Elokhar was also about to bond a spren right before Moash killed him. He starts to say his first ideals and begins to glow with stormlight. Although, I'm not 100% sure if its implying he was about to become a radiant, or if he was becoming Kaladin's squire like Bridge 4
@@MrKandlejack he was becoming a radiant of the same tipe of shallan, there are some clues about it
Shallan keeping a secret? I can't believe it! 😂
While I tend to agree that making Adolin a radiant is going to be difficult. I can't think of a more perfect way to become an Edgedancer than remembering the spren that has been forgotten. I also suspect this is going to be how you get around the problem that it typically has to be the person who broke the oath. If Adolin makes an oath specifically referring to her it might work.
That's true, it does seem like the perfect way to become an Edgedancer doesn't it? That could definitely be the loop hole that allows him to revive her. Ahhh I'm excited to see how things play out in book 4!
Brandon has mentioned too many times that reviving a dead spren is impossible for it not to happen, i think he is setting up the shock value.
@@CapturedInWords I think the specific Oaths of the Edgedancer help with this, too. "I will remember to those who've been forgotten" and "I will listen to those who've been ignored" are exactly what he's doing with Maya. He's listening and remembering a fallen spren that everyone else treats like a nuke on a stick.
I have never clicked on a video faster in my life.
Same lol
Yeah lol
Same but late
Yeah I hope you didn't break your screen in the process...I did
@@rubberjamduck482 I dont blame you XD
"tin-foil shardplate" missed opportunity to say aluminum-lined hats
Counting down the days... and the minutes and the seconds till Rhythm Of War comes out the wait for Book 5 is going to be AGONY
I'm already feeling the pain of waiting for book 5 D:
2032 for book 10 lol?
I thought I was up on the fan art, but God damn you find the best stuff. Watching this video and others you've done on Stormlight, it's easy to forget there's no official depiction of the series. The art you find is just so... right.
LOL at theory number 3, basically spot on
Now I can't watch that part lol
One theory that I heard is that Taln was betrayed by some of the other Heralds. Some of the support was the death rattle that says something along the lines of "Bastards, you've killed me! While the sun is still hot I die!" We know that some of the rattles seem to come from Taln, such as the one about "the burdens of nine become mine. Why must I carry the madness of them all?" Additionally, it was noted that Taln tends to take on impossible challenges, sometimes dying sometimes not. If he was killed in the aftermath of one of these, it would not immediately be suspect. The theory holds that at least three of the Heralds, but certainly not all of them (as Kelek only arrives after the others have departed"), worked together to enact this plot. It would have needed Ishar, as he thought of the Oathpact and would have known whether or not only Taln's return to Braize would have held back future desolations. It is also thought that Jezrien was in on it, as he was king of the heralds. I believe that Nale could have been the third member as in Edgedancer he mentions being in contact with Ishar in order to prevent the return of desolations. I believe that, following the mad guidance of Ishar, Nale believed that Knights Radiant could take up the position the Heralds abandoned, potentially sending them to Braize where they could break in Taln's place. Thus, he became the enforcer of their plot.
I really would like Adolin to keep being "normal" instead of becoming a radiant, but I think he will become one eventually
I think Sanderson will most likely make him a radiant. That said, he wouldn't do so at the expense of characterization. Characters are made interesting by how they deal with conflict. As said in this video, becoming radiant would sort of "solve all of Adolin's problems". So since the books have been foreshadowing the hell out of Adolin's eminent radiantification, what's the solution? Give him new conflicts. Maybe turn his radiance into a new problem. Maybe make the first ideal impossible for him to say. Maybe make new enemies impossible for him to deal with, while Kaladin and Shallan absolutely wreck them. Maybe make his radiance turn him into a total douche, then make Shallan leave him. There are endless ways an Sanderson could make him radiant, but still keep him interesting.
I would love for him to stay normal too, but it seems that Sanderson likes to add powers to his normal characters. Elend in Mistborn, David in the Reckoners. He then counters that by adding greater power to the opposing side, so their added power value actually only helps a little.
What ifffff. He became a Radiant, then at that instant, he died. Looooool
@@crockettcast2702 Yea that was, imo, poorly done in mistborn. It's basically the old Dragon Ball Z trope. I hope he does it better this time.
@@jonathandoda8762 HEAVY Cosmere spoilers here:
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If youve read Mistborn: The Secret History, you'd know that the bead Elend swallowed actually looks like its going to have a lot of significance in the future of the Cosmere. In Mistborn, they find a single bead. In reality there were 2 beads of that metal there, and the first was stolen before Vin and Elend arrived. I wont spoil the book entirely, but I'd really recommend reading that book if you enjoy the Mistborn series. Theres tons of context there and it gives a lot of hints as to how the different worlds in the Cosmere are connected.
THere has to be something going on with Kaladin and Syl. Notice how Syl was refered to as ancient daughter. There was an interaction between the sea captain on Honor's path and Kaladin in which the captain said Honor was setting up an heir and Syl is basically the only surviving spren that could become one. So my theory is, Syl will become Honor.
When they were talking about Honor setting up an heir I think hey were actually talking about him passing the mantle of creating honorspren onto the Stormfather. There is almost no chance Syl could become the next Honor as that appears to require a human taking up the power of a shard of Adonalsium. Like Dalinar seems to be on the path towards.
Hmmm something that I'm remembering is Syl saying "I bind things" when describing herself. Maybe she helps reforge honor?
Didn't the Stormfather also call Kaladin Son of Tanavast somewhere?
I just finished Oathbringer and I can't wait for Rhythm of War! I'm already dreading the wait for book 5. 🤣
Same man same
The wait for book 5 is going to be the worst! I'm glad Sanderson is a fast writer though!
@@CapturedInWords I am suffering for the book 6
Gonna finish it in 2 days and have a 2 year wait lol
Still better than waiting for Doors of Stone 😒
You clarified so much and also confirm somethings I had suspected. I can't wait to see if we are right after reading the next book.
A theory I've been ranting about is over the voice that spoke to Dalinar at the end of Oathbringer and the seemingly sentient Nohadon in his last dream of the book. I'm convinced that this was either Nohadon or Tanavast, either of the two somehow living on as a cognitive shadow. Considering the former was a Bondsmith and the latter a Shardholder, albeit a shattered one, I think it's a possibility and will eat my boots if it turns out I'm wrong.
I think anyone who pairs with the Stormfather gets a sort of mental download that can be recalled later. We see Nohadon, Tanavast, and, maybe, Gavilar at the end of WoR. (During the dream he has where he mentions his wooden shardblade collection.) It's all but confirmed that Gavilar was bonding with the Stormfather, Nohadon, too. That's my guess at what's going on anyway. I mean, it could also be that the way Bondsmith's "Spiritual Adhesion" works is that it gives them a conduit to the Spiritual Realm that allows for a bit of cross-talk across the boundary of death. It could also work in a similar way to something mentioned in Mistborn: Secret History and soul expansion.
@@fictionmyth That's a very interesting interpretation, I always thought that it was some sort of Adonalsium cognitive shadow influencing and guiding the characters. As they always talk about god beeing dead, but there is actually a god that no one knows about, but has very little power. I take that from the feeling of warmth that Dalinar feels in his vision when he first arrives in Urithiru
You've got me more anticipatory for 'Rhythm of War' than watching a Brandon Sanderson interview. Excellent and insightful as always Jay!
If Casitor* was one of the unmade it would explain why Iri and Rira were so quick to side with Odium. Sure they blame it on Adolin’s shards but that seems like a justification for a culture pre conditioned to accept Odium’s power. The thrill resided in Alethkar and it fell. Molelock* resided in Kharbranth which also fell. There’s a pattern.
Nice seeing u back after long time. I hope ur safe.. I’m massive fan of Brandon Sanderson too!! Keep safe!!
Another top tier stormlight video! A lot of the Stormlight 4 predictions I've been seeing have been more focused on the characters and their relationships. That's all fine, but I needed that lore fix as well! Can't wait for more cosmere vids!
Glad you enjoyed! There's definitely many more Cosmere videos to come! :D
One theory of my own is that each order of radiants also has a "hidden" power that they dont share with their sibling orders, like when kaladin seemed to summon windspren around him to counteract the winds of a high storm, or dalinar merging the three realms with gloryspren, forming honor's perpendicularity, and I dont know if this is one of those instances or not, but shallan was able to make solid illusions, not just light, but making matter move on the battle against odium
You hit it right on the dot..I've read and listened to these 3 books about 13 times all together..graphic audio really did a great job at capturing the feeling of the character's..I always get misty eyed when dalinar combines all 3 realms ....awesome
Glad you are spending time with Stormlight! I found you first for your PR vids, but I'm so over him... (LOL). Your guesses may or may not be correct, but they seem very well reasoned. Thanks for putting them out!
I have not read the series and it will probably be a while, so I have not seen the video but I am just glad every time a video is released!
I've never complimented you before. Good stuff. You put tons of effort into your production and I appreciates you.
Wow! This is so impressive both in presentation and reasoning, I almost want to accuse you of spoiling these things for me! I'm half kidding, of course. Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You ended up being right about basically everything, good for you!
Those fanart are so gorgeous!! If one day we get to see summary videos of the books, it's gonna so epic!!
Hmm. Interesting Dawnshard theory with Aimia. I always thought that Aimia was destroyed because of the destruction of Honor's perpendicularity when he died.
That's a very interesting theory as well!
This video got me so hyped for the book! Keep them coming! Really well done.
Yay! Thank you, many more to come!
After watching this I feel like we read two different books....I've read Oathbringer twice and barely recall any of this! This is fantastic!
Maybe the Sibling is in the Horneater Peaks? If so will Rock be the one to bond it?
He does "bring people together"
I don't think so. This speaks too much like Harmony to me. I don't think Brandon would duplicate something like that.
Is it way too late and i should be waking up in 5hrs to get ready for work? Yes.
Will i nonetheless watch this video? Absolutely!
I appreciate you making this video a priority ;) Haha but seriously, I hope you manage to get some good sleep!!
I have forgotten so much of this series. I need to revisit. Like an old friend
Just finished OB, and am waiting for the paperback version of RoW to be out. I feel like I need to reread all three books now because there is so much information that I missed like wow
I LOVE your videos Jay, please never stop!
Thanks! :D I never will!
I love these lore videos about some of my favorite series! Especially Kingkiller and now Stormlight. Keep them coming!
Thanks! Will do! :D
Amazing video! Loved it, every part was so cool. I cannot wait for Rythym of War and this theories video is fuelling my anticipation for it even more. Where did you get the music for this video? It was so atmospheric. I am completing an epic re read and due to start Words of Radiance soonish.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed! I have a subscription to a site called MotionArray which is where I get all my royalty free music, I think this is one of the main ones I use motionarray.com/royalty-free-music/fantasy-33666
I'm rereading the books before the 4th one comes out too, so hyped!
I FINALLY FINISHED OATHBRINGER AND CAN FINALLY READ EVERY SPOILER KNOWN TO MAN!! THANK YOU ALMIGHTY!!!
I love your idea of living shardpklate. What if, ideal 4 gives normal shardplate and ideal 5 gives living shardplate? there's a reason jasnah's shardplate was described differently to Shallan's. She could already have sworn all 5 ideals
I doubt that she swore the fifth ideal. The only knight known to have sworn it is Nan, that is the ideal to become Law. That seams the kind of ideal that would take away the personality of a person making the more like spren that man. (Not that spren don't have a personality)
@@Orengelable that is re 5th skybreaker ideal. We know nothing about the elsecaller 5th ideal.
Great video as always man
Thanks, I appreciate it :D
Love seeing “The Shadow of what was lost” by James Islington in the background!👌 just started it..
I see jay doing a SA video, I click.
Edit: MAN jay you freaking genius❤ such articulate and high quality videos LOVED IT!!
Glad you enjoyed the video! :D
Just finished Oathbringer, and storming loved it! (As always, great video!)
Great content, subscribed! I think there's a real chance that most of these theories are realized in Book 4. Thanks for taking the time to make these, it's clear you put a lot of time and energy into each video. Do you mind sharing what software you use for your videos?
Storms. I need to pay more attention to the interludes on my next reread.
Wow, I checked RUclips at just the right time.
Great job! Are you going to make in-depth summaries about Words of Radiance and Oathbringer like you did with The Way of Kings?
Yup I definitely will be making in-depth summaries for the other two! I've been working on the Words of Radiance one and hope to have it up soon
@@CapturedInWords Thanks for your reaction! Looking forward to it the first one was amazing.
Wild To See This Video I Just Finished OathBringer Yesterday It was The Least Favorite Of The Three But Still Very Enjoyable Cant Wait To Get Book 4
Awesome, this video was perfect timing then! Book 4 can't come any sooner 👍
Captured in Words Oh My Gosh I Love Your Channel And Your In-depth Way Of Kings Was Literally Perfect Also Gonna Continue With The Rest Of The Cosmere Books Onward To Mistborn Era 2 Books
@@Gajeel145 Thank you! I'll be making an in-depth summary for Words of Radiance soon too
Captured in Words WOR Is My Favorite Of The Three So Most Likely I Will Be Rewatching It Multiple Times When It Drops
Curious about Ashyn. In Arcanum Unbounded Khriss calls it the burning planet and that it has famous floating cities.
Wow! How refreshing this video was. So well done. I am excited for book 4. I think I should reread Oathbringer.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, I can't wait for book 4!
I think Adolin could fit a number fo different orders, including Edgedancer and Stoneward.
I predict that he will revive Maya and become an Edgedancer, and that we will learn a bit more about boding a spren in the process. Maybe there was a Stoneward spren that was considering bonding with him, but cant because Maya did instead.
Another great video! I am getting excited for Rhythm of War!
Ahhhhhh oathbringer. One of the best fantasy books so far. Hopefully the next book is just as good or better.
I hope so too!
It would make sense for Cusicesh is Dai-gonarthus since Hessi's Mythica makes the connection with the Black Fisher. Fisher - big water spren
Could the Dawnshards be pieces of the weapon that killed Adolnasium? If so, that gives them lots of power indeed
You should do a recap of oathbringer video before the next book comes out. Great video!
I definitely love how big the world of roshar is, but it’s kind of difficult seeing kaladin as the main character anymore to me because of this. I’ve grown to love dalinar, I liked shallan until the end of Oathbringer, and I kind of like adolin. One thing that is annoying about this is that Kaladin is intentionally being held back so that other characters can catch up, but it’s gotten to the point that he’s kind of in the dust of everybody else developmentally. Shallan apparently now has control of her identities, dalinar is basically honor at this point, adolin is quickly learning to be himself, even the others of bridge four like Teft are outpacing kaladin developmentally now. I just hate how he feels kind of dead in the water right now compared to quite literally every main cast character and most side cast characters. I hope Rhythm of War really gives him a big conflict upfront that will have a good progression potentially leading into book 5.
Kinda agree. Teft caught up to Kaladin so quickly ... It's also a bit unfair that Kaladin have to figure out the ideals while the rest of the windrunners simply know what to say. Kaladin has to at least learn the fourth ideal pretty early in the book, otherwise, he will no longer be the main character for much longer (in terms of power scaling)
Leonardo Fonseca amen to that. I think Brandon realized that he paced Kaladin a little too fast so he relied heavily on his depression as a way to slow him down. I’d even argue that he’s already been surpassed by Shallan, Dalinar, and Jasnah. Shallan summoned a whole frickin army, Dalinar is apparently Honor, and Jasnah may possibly have her own Shardplate.
@@ihavenoname8628 Kaladin's powers are kinda meh compared to the others. Unless he can lift freaking mountain or something like that, just flying around isnt much.Shallan, Dalinar and Jasnah have god like powers. I hope Sanderson will give some extra twist to boost the Windrunners's abilities somehow
Leonardo Fonseca I kinda hope he gets a boost in his abilities, but I’m not a big fan of the idea of him being about to lift full on boulders or something. I can honestly see one of two things: 1. He becomes an incredible support character, being able to lift whole armies of people and can bestow stormlight flying abilities for a ridiculous amount of time. Or 2. He can distantly lift people up now and can also lash double the speed.
Adolin is definitely going to become an Edgedancer, but he will fight it, denying his own worthiness, every step of the way until he finally has to acknowledge that he has been living all four oaths at once. I don't know what the last two oaths are, but the best example of remembering those forgotten would be his mother, and listening to those ignored would be his brother.
My favorite theory is that the only way for them to defeat Odium is to lose the battle of champions. Dalinar will need to swear the 4th order-specific oath, and this will allow him to bind oaths to the spirit world, creating new heralds. His champion, probably Kaladin, will be struck down and go to Braize where he will block the fused from coming back to life. So he'll die and join Talenelat, preparing himself for eternal torture. Only difference will be the men and women who died while following Kaladin will join him there. When he sees all the people he thought he failed (including his little brother) ready to follow him even in death, he'll get over his grumpiness and melancholy. He will chose to lead them in battle with the fused, unwilling to allow any of his followers to be tortured. This will offer an afterlife very similar to the one his mother believed in.
Everytime I drive through traffic on I-70 (it’s the highway in Colorado that goes East-West through Denver and the Rocky Mountains) my road rage inevitably devolves to just muttering “airsick lowlanders” while glaring at other drivers
Edit: also as for Adolin reviving Maya, I think it’s totally plausible. I just recently read Arcanum Unbounded, and I think Sanderson is planning on doing more with the Cognitive and Spiritual Realms with Roshar and Stormlight. Considering that spren are manifestations of thought powered by the Shards on Roshar, I don’t think they can truly die. Thus the deadeyes. I’m curious to see how Maya is different from other spren, especially how bonding would work but I do think Adolin is going to bond her, and give her new life through new oaths. Whatever happens I think Sanderson is going to have some awesome and game-changing plot and character development in book 4. Can’t wait to read.
lmaooooo. I like this channel within the first 10 seconds.
Can you make a video on your opinions of Hoid's end goal? He is very clearly collecting investitures from different worlds, but to what end? When offered power during the event of Adolnasium, he refused it. Did he change his mind? Was the shard of power offered to him not enough, because he wanted all of it?
I'll definitely be making a video on this at some point! Hoid's end goal is one of the Cosmere things I am the most interested in learning about, especially after what he said to Dalinar: "And while I am your friend, please understand that our goals do not completely align. You must not trust yourself with me. If I have to watch this world crumble and burn to get what I need, I will do so. With tears, yes, but I would let it happen."
Also back in WoK he says something along the lines of, "I wonder, if you split a man into his different emotions, then stuck him back together, would he still be the same?" so I wonder if his goal is to try and put Adonalsium back together, or perhaps merge himself with the reconstructed Adonalsium 🤔 I'll have to make a video on this sometime in the next few months
Okay, I said I'll watch this right after finishing Oathbringer. But that happened at 3am so I had to go to sleep first.
Great theories!
Brandon needs to do something with Adolin. His arc floundered in OB.
Thank you!!! awesome analysis and theories :)
Glad you enjoyed! :)
Very well done. Thank you, looking forward to more!
Thanks!
amazing video, I need to reread the first 3 books. No book has ever hooked me like the first in the series.
dude this was an awesome video :-)
Thanks!
it seams that i have missed alot of stuff...dont remember half of this stuff...guess i got to go through the books again, cause i cant just go through oathbringer with out doing the others first
I wonder what's in shadsmar around urithiru. I feel like jasnah will be the one to find out. Being able to go to and from shadsmar. The fact that it has not happened yet and now shadsmar is introduced and seen in oathbringer. I'm thinking we just might find out.
Yesss! This is something I'm super curious about as well! I wonder if the sibling can be found around Urithiru in shadesmar. I hope Jasnah checks it out in book 4!
Okay, so flaws in theory number 2.
The Stormfather, Nightwatcher, and the Sibling existed before Honor and Cultivation came to Roshar. The Stormfather and Nightwatcher became Splinters of their associated Shards AFTER Honor died. These three spren probably represent the three aspects mentioned in the Eila Stele: Wind (Stormfather), Stone (The Sibling), and Spren (The Nightwatcher). They were involved with the Bondsmiths before Honor was Splintered and the Stormfather became his Cognitive Shadow. We don't know enough about the Nightwatcher to say when this happened to her yet.
Great video! I thought you were going to discuss something about what could happen to Renarin's tainted spren. That point is one of the ones I'm very curious.
Great video man!
I think.it would be Navani who would bond with the sibling. Her interest in the revival of Urithuru and her closeness to Dalinar makes her the ideal candidate for a Bondsmith radiant.
Navani is definitely a good option for becoming a Bondsmith, she also has a big interest in fabrials and Urithuru is essentially one giant fabrial. Very interesting!
When can we expect the WoR in-depth summary and the OB in-depth summary? No pressure or anything, I’m just pumped for RoW and don’t want to re-read it all.
Excellent theories and video quality
Thank you! :)
I wish i could be a patron. You do fine work and great videos. I'm not in a situation to help you but maybe someday. Keep up the good work
I have a constant struggle of choosing whether to support Radiant! Adolin or not. Adolin is a very layered character and they’re being peiled off book after book. Seeing a normal character next to super powered people is very interesting.
But I’m leaning towards wanting Adolin to become a Radiant because the story of dead spren becoming alive sounds more interesting to me than what his story is now (even if his story rn is also interesting and Adolin is my favorite character). Adolin as a Radiant could be one of the most badass characters in the Cosmere, he fits the ideals of an Edgedancer.
(he also fits the description of a Stoneward though, so we’ll see).
I just absolutely loved this video! But god damn now it's gonna be harder to wait until book 4 comes out :$
Glad you enjoyed the video! November 17th never felt so far away D:
@@CapturedInWords omgggg you answered me :00 you made my day man thanks
Damn... I didn't want the video to end...
Maya is also one that’s been forgotten as have the other spren
my personal theory is that Ialai is on of the Unmade specifically Ba-Ado-Mishram, who is described as “keen of mind, a highprincess among enemy forces” in the quote from Hessi’s Mythica for Chapter 106. Ialai is frequently described as scheming, and she disappears right after the battle at Thaylen City. Shallan cites her leaving indisgrace, but maybe it was because Odium called.
I like all of these theories. I’m thinking Adolin is either going to be a “true” edgedancer since Lift isn’t a normal edgedancer. Or he’ll be some deviation of a different radiant order
On the note of living shardplate you forgot the time that adolin noted that renarin was wearing full plate but couldn't recall when he would have been able to get it. Think that was during the thunderclast fight but before jasna attacked him
First of all very nice video.
I like your theory about Urithiru and the possibility of having Shallan going into Shadesmar to "check" on the Spren there. But I think she will need help to "reboot" the tower and that could very well be Dalinar. He's learned how to unite the 3 realms and him and Shallan has so far been - I believe - the only 2 radiants combining powers. Might that also have been one of the many foreshadowing moments Sanderson love to tease us with?
About the dawnshards also, might Azure's sword be one of them?
That's a really good idea, I could definitely see Dalinar & Shallan combining powers to awaken the tower! And Sanderson definitely loves his foreshadowing so I could see him doing that.
I believe Azure has an awakened sword like Nightblood, though if it was a dawnshard that would be super interesting!
In my perfect world, Adolin figures out a way to revive Maya without actually becoming an Edgedancer
6:06 when/where was it stated that the vessels of the two shards were lovers? I dont seem to remember it in OB? Can someone tell me which chapter its from
Finally finished Oathbringer so I can safely dive back into your content. 100% agree that Adolin should never be radiant. He should instead represent the best of humanity, despite his faults.
That was a really cool intro Bro ..
Thanks!
I clicked so hard my laptop broke! I'm so hyped for Rhythm of War! I'm really interested in Moash. Most people seem to hate him, but I honestly really sympathize with him. He's kind of assumed the role of Kaladin with the spren, so I think he's going to be a really good villain! I'm really curious about Adolin's story too. I really hope Sanderson doesn't become predictable and kill the only non-radiant in the group!
Syl makes reference in WoR that they do not completely die when referencing the dead shard blades.
I always thought that the part of Odium that keeps him "captive" was locked in Aimia.
BTW, Wtf with Kaladin's windsprens at Shadesmar and when he tried to rescue the parshendi (Sha and the crew).
The most popular theory is that Shardplate is formed from a Radiant's "secondary Spren" Windspren for Windrunners, Logicspren for Elsecallers, Creationspren for Lightweavers, ect. The idea is that as Kaladin gets closer to the fourth Ideal, he'll be able to do more and more stuff with Windspren. This theory could be backed up by Mr. Sanderson himself saying in a livestream "... But nobody know were Shardplate comes from, except for must of the Cosmere nuts, they've basically got it figured out" (paraphrased).
I agree with most of them. You missed a thing though, Aimia's capital Akinah has an Oathgate Jasnah confirms that it had been destroyed long ago, but how can it be destroyed? I think there is a perpedicularity there, which will enable humans to go back to their original planet to retrieve the Dawnshards. She mentions it in one of the meetings then.
Jay, and what do you think about Wit? I really like him. He reminds me of the Fool from The Farseers.
I think that there were originally 10 Dawnshards, and each could use only one of the 10 Surges in a *major* way. I also believe that there is now only one left, and it is in Aimia. I think it's something like Bondsmith machine, using spiritual Adhesion to do big stuff. The other 9 were corrupted by Odium, which accomplished two things. One, he was able to bind those Surges to the Fused. This explains why there are only 9 Orders of Fused. Second, each of those Dawnshards, when corrupted, was turned into one of the Unmade. And that is why there are 9 of those.
Loved the video I’m so excited for book 4 this just makes me more excited if that’s even possible
Also I love the music that was playing at the end do you know where I could listen?
Thanks! Book 4 couldn't come any sooner!
The music at the end is called 'Fantasy' and can be found here: motionarray.com/royalty-free-music/fantasy-33666
Wow amazing video
Thank you so much 😀
When will you be doing in depth summaries for book 2 and 3
Been doing a reread of the main series' books before RoW comes out. So much hype!
Same here! I'm picking up on a lot of small details with this reread, can't wait for RoW!
I don't think it will be in Rhythm of War but I highly suspect that we will see either Vasher (Zahel) and/or Vivina (Azur) will travel to the Alethi Crypts to turn the dead light-eye-statues into lifeless. If you've read Warbreaker you'll know that Vasher has previously created an army of living statues using breath, an army that was nearly unstoppable, and the way the Alethi preserve their dead light-eyes by soulcasting them into statues is just too perfect for Brandon not to use that.
can you make a video about the orders of the knights cause im still not sure about them all
Yeah I'll definitely do that at some point! :)