Thank you so much! I always wonder why everything seems so perfect especially when I know it never goes that way! I thought it would be good to show the true studio world.
You have the patience of a saint! I did learn more than I knew before I watched your video. Thank you so much! Please make more videos. You’re a really good instructor and I’m learning a lot! ♥️
Oh my, that first stone is enough to make me yell at the screen, how frustrating. I’ve heard pavé IS all about practice, you are right. Quick question: could you not “cheat” a teeny bit and gently tap the prong? Perhaps a light percussion with a hammer hand-piece? Also, anticipating the rotational torque of the but (cylinder) with some counter pressure away from the direction of rotation will help you not skip the but. We deal with rotational torque in propellor aircraft flight. Same physics, but far more aggressive in metal to metal contact than prop to air. Great video, I’m going to try this, thank you!
Hello again! 😄 It´s good to know I’m not the only one that yells at inanimate objects when things don’t go the way I want them to! 🤣Depending on how “big” your pave design is, you could hammer set the stones, but it is difficult. You run the risk of over-tightening and cracking the stone. The optimum process would be to have the smallest prongs possible that maintain the integrity of the setting, thus an enormous amount of practice and problem-solving. And, in this case, I might be able to get away with 0.50mm prongs to hold the pave in place. As for the rotational torque, in the case of a 4mm or smaller bur, there isn’t a lot of force, but that being said, I tend to slow my hand piece to have more control and avoid as much skipping/slipping as possible.
I was telling a teacher/jeweler that I thought learning how to do jewelry work was learning physics, engineering, and emotional intelligence all at the same time. I appreciate your showing how jewelers really practice their craft. I saw someone on Reddit who had a special spot on the wall of their studio that was reserved for head banging. (I hope it was a metaphor...)
I am sure it wasn’t a metaphor!🤣 I have a whole new appreciation for curse words since becoming a jeweler! Every time I drop a stone and I’m on my hands and knees I yell out, “assuming the jeweler’s position!” It seems to be a theme amongst jewelry people that we drink heavily, curse loudly, and make up sayings to comfort our frustrations, BUT I will say it’s incredibly satisfying when it all comes out “right!”
Hi Julessa, Warm greetings from Bavaria! Your down to earth honesty is exceptional. Many years ago, I learned dental technology. In that field little glitches happened on a regular basis too. The fact that you show that this also happens in the metal smithing field is wonderful. Detailed and intricate work done by hand entails trials and tribulations. Your videos are top notch, extremely helpful and I love them!!!! Let the RUclips-pack show high gloss, dizzy speed and low value videos. Your videos are number one on my list. THANK YOU - BIG HUGS! Take care, Rebecca
Hello Rebecca from Bavaria!!! Thank you so much for the kind words. I fight myself when I’m editing, but ultimately I know people appreciate the “mess ups” because you’re right, things don’t always go smoothly in the studio and I know it helps people to understand that it’s ok to have a bad day working. Dental technology is much like metal smithing in the sense it requires a steady hand and the fortitude to carry on when things aren’t going right for the day. The work has to be done and when it’s complete, the sense of pride is immense. Again, thank you for your kind sentiment, it means a lot. 🥰
Awwwwww I could hug you after that! It's actually reassuring to know that it's not just me that has things go wrong or not do what you want them to do. The amount of times i make a bezel and it shrinks is unreal! I have soldering demons, dust bunnies that pinch stones and a whole lot of fektardiness that makes me more an accidental jeweller than anything! My journey started 2.5 years ago but thanks to you I actually don't beat myself up any more when it all goes wrong. You're an inspiration Julessa and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. We appreciate the no holds barred and all inclusive approach you have. Your honesty is refreshing xx
This was great. Watching a master and the master has some trouble helps us newbies know that everybody can have something go wrong I will definitely practice and learn this method! Thanks
Very educational, I enjoyed the mistakes more because I never knew what to watch for otherwise, because other jewellers with the power of editing make it look easier than it actually is . Thanks
I'm happy that patient comes through because inside I'm really frustrated. But, I thought it would be nice for y'all to see that no matter how experienced we are, we still have troublesome days.
Thanks nice video, I’ve never understand the pave before because people don’t show what’s important ! You went straight to the point ❤️ with some practice you should be a great teacher for sure !
First- it’s always a great learning experience to see the work arounds & the whoopsies! The problem solving & going back are part of the process😀 Second- your camera is so CLEAR! You really get see up close which makes all the difference. Thank you ❤️
Like what Debra said that you show how things really are while setting stones .love this video because many other videos on RUclips are mostly edited and nothing bad ever happens .lol welcome to the real world . Practice and then practice more ...thank you for sharing
Super helpful and informative. Thank you for showing the problems that can easily arise and the process of determining the steps to adjust and correct. This is what makes a great teacher and you have a real talent for it. This also shines a light on the importance of patience and tons of practice. Lol... I really want to learn to work with my gravers but I'm still struggling with the angles and sharpening/preparing them. It can be very intimidating and frustrating. Thanks for showing the alternative options for such as me. Lol.. well done!
Using and sharpening gravers is definitely a big challenge, but so worth it if you can get through the growing by pains. I hope to have some videos this coming year about sharpening and more using of them.
Hi again, I noticed that in your basket setting videos (making and setting), you didn’t use any lubricant with your bits, yet in this video you chose it for your drill bits. What is your criteria for those choices; please and thank you?
Hi Julessa, I'm rewatching this for the 4th time. I just noticed that in the marking section you mention that you want to set your dividers to 1mm larger than your stone, which in this case your stone is 3mm so you said to set them to 4mm. You immediately (no editing) set your dividers to 3mm, not 4mm, and proceeded. How does thia effect the spacing? My piece worked out and my previous comment addressed my frustration with what sewms like prongs that ended up too large. Could accurate (or inaccurate) spacing cause issues? What is the actual correct formula for spacing (all parameters) based on stone size? Thanks again.
Hello FlyingChef! I totally missed this comment somehow… 🤪. I will have to go back and re-watch the video and make the edit. The reason for the extra 1mm spacing is to provide 1/2 a millimeter on each side of the stone to help with prong size and the spacing between the stones. True pave is very close together, usually splitting one chink of metal into 2 separate prongs on each one, but it really depends on the aesthetic you’re going for in the overall design. I have been successful with both methods (plus a millimeter or exact size). Yes, inaccurate spacing can cause issues. The worst thing would be to not have enough material to create proper prongs. It’s better to have a little too much that you can eliminate than to not have enough. I’m sure there is a very specific formula if you attend a true, professional diamond setting class, but even then, every teacher does it differently 😃. The best instruction I found was from Jewellery Training Solutions and they recommend 1mm bigger than the stone, so 4mm for a 3mm stone. In my own experience, this has worked out the best, but I’m not an expert just yet, so a lot of the time it’s still a gamble for me. I think the more you do it, the more intuitive it becomes and you work out the kinks and proceed with what works for you. That’s the beauty of this craft, everyone does it differently and as long as the stone stays in, it looks clean and professional, and you can replicate the process, you’re doing well. Hope this helps, a little at least. 😄
And yet another comment: so, I’m practicing this and have the exact same measurements of metal as you. You’ve chosen 4mm between stones, but then you choose 1.5mm as the middle of 4mm. How does this work? Perhaps that may be a part of the problem with thick prongs….? What do you think?
The pilot hole for the start of the seat is generally started at about 1/2 the diameter of the stone. This creates less friction on the bur when opening the seat, but I still recommend opening the seat progressively after the pilot hole. For example, for a 4mm stone, drill a 2mm pilot hole, then use a 3mm ball bur to open the seat, and then finish with a 4mm hart bur to fine tune the setting. And, if I didn’t state it clearly in the video, I always use a bur lubricant of some sort - sometimes I forget to mention it because it’s second-nature to me ☺️ Hope this answers your question!
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith Sooo grateful for your time to answer, thank you. That sort of makes sense. There'd always a but if room needed with burning. BTW, my first practice piece turned out amazing. I went slowly and precisely, I'm casting it in my casting class this week! Thanks for being there, your video was unusually excellent on this subject- even with your own challenges- I really got the vision. 🌺
Learn to make the holes by eye. Will save you so much time. A good tutorial for beginners. But too extra steps that can be avoided with skill and practice
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99% of the people out there would've edited out the problem spots. Bless you for keeping it real - that's what we really needed to see...!
Thank you so much! I always wonder why everything seems so perfect especially when I know it never goes that way! I thought it would be good to show the true studio world.
I cannot thank you enough for this tutorial especially how to do it without the special gravers!! Raw and uncut I love these videos!!!💖🙏💖
You're very welcome! I figured y'all would like to see the failures along with the successes 😆
I like the way you show that things do go wrong. This is the way a shop really works !!!!!! We all have things that go wrong.
So true. Some days the shop gremlins just get ya!
You have the patience of a saint! I did learn more than I knew before I watched your video. Thank you so much! Please make more videos. You’re a really good instructor and I’m learning a lot! ♥️
Thank you so much Tamara! I’m glad you’re learning 😀
Oh my, that first stone is enough to make me yell at the screen, how frustrating. I’ve heard pavé IS all about practice, you are right. Quick question: could you not “cheat” a teeny bit and gently tap the prong? Perhaps a light percussion with a hammer hand-piece? Also, anticipating the rotational torque of the but (cylinder) with some counter pressure away from the direction of rotation will help you not skip the but. We deal with rotational torque in propellor aircraft flight. Same physics, but far more aggressive in metal to metal contact than prop to air. Great video, I’m going to try this, thank you!
Hello again! 😄 It´s good to know I’m not the only one that yells at inanimate objects when things don’t go the way I want them to! 🤣Depending on how “big” your pave design is, you could hammer set the stones, but it is difficult. You run the risk of over-tightening and cracking the stone. The optimum process would be to have the smallest prongs possible that maintain the integrity of the setting, thus an enormous amount of practice and problem-solving. And, in this case, I might be able to get away with 0.50mm prongs to hold the pave in place. As for the rotational torque, in the case of a 4mm or smaller bur, there isn’t a lot of force, but that being said, I tend to slow my hand piece to have more control and avoid as much skipping/slipping as possible.
I was telling a teacher/jeweler that I thought learning how to do jewelry work was learning physics, engineering, and emotional intelligence all at the same time. I appreciate your showing how jewelers really practice their craft. I saw someone on Reddit who had a special spot on the wall of their studio that was reserved for head banging. (I hope it was a metaphor...)
I am sure it wasn’t a metaphor!🤣 I have a whole new appreciation for curse words since becoming a jeweler! Every time I drop a stone and I’m on my hands and knees I yell out, “assuming the jeweler’s position!” It seems to be a theme amongst jewelry people that we drink heavily, curse loudly, and make up sayings to comfort our frustrations, BUT I will say it’s incredibly satisfying when it all comes out “right!”
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith YES @#%!& You got that #@% right .
Hi Julessa,
Warm greetings from Bavaria!
Your down to earth honesty is exceptional. Many years ago, I learned dental technology. In that field little glitches happened on a regular basis too. The fact that you show that this also happens in the metal smithing field is wonderful. Detailed and intricate work done by hand entails trials and tribulations. Your videos are top notch, extremely helpful and I love them!!!! Let the RUclips-pack show high gloss, dizzy speed and low value videos. Your videos are number one on my list. THANK YOU - BIG HUGS!
Take care, Rebecca
Hello Rebecca from Bavaria!!! Thank you so much for the kind words. I fight myself when I’m editing, but ultimately I know people appreciate the “mess ups” because you’re right, things don’t always go smoothly in the studio and I know it helps people to understand that it’s ok to have a bad day working. Dental technology is much like metal smithing in the sense it requires a steady hand and the fortitude to carry on when things aren’t going right for the day. The work has to be done and when it’s complete, the sense of pride is immense. Again, thank you for your kind sentiment, it means a lot. 🥰
Awwwwww I could hug you after that! It's actually reassuring to know that it's not just me that has things go wrong or not do what you want them to do. The amount of times i make a bezel and it shrinks is unreal! I have soldering demons, dust bunnies that pinch stones and a whole lot of fektardiness that makes me more an accidental jeweller than anything! My journey started 2.5 years ago but thanks to you I actually don't beat myself up any more when it all goes wrong. You're an inspiration Julessa and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. We appreciate the no holds barred and all inclusive approach you have. Your honesty is refreshing xx
🤣❤️❤️❤️ thank you Cat! Those little demons and dust bunnies like to steal and wreak havoc!
This was great. Watching a master and the master has some trouble helps us newbies know that everybody can have something go wrong I will definitely practice and learn this method! Thanks
Some days it works and other days it doesn't and we need to be more gentle with ourselves when it's one of those days. ☺️
Thank you so much, I can always count on you to give a thorough explanation while demonstrating
Aww… thank you! You are very welcome 🤗
Very educational, I enjoyed the mistakes more because I never knew what to watch for otherwise, because other jewellers with the power of editing make it look easier than it actually is . Thanks
I agree. I like to see the mistakes so I can figure out either how to avoid them or just know I’m gonna have to practice a LOT! 😜
Fantastic video, you’re so calm and patient. So great to see the issues which may crop up. Thank you xx
I'm happy that patient comes through because inside I'm really frustrated. But, I thought it would be nice for y'all to see that no matter how experienced we are, we still have troublesome days.
Thanks nice video, I’ve never understand the pave before because people don’t show what’s important ! You went straight to the point ❤️
with some practice you should be a great teacher for sure !
Thank you so much!! 😀
First- it’s always a great learning experience to see the work arounds & the whoopsies! The problem solving & going back are part of the process😀
Second- your camera is so CLEAR! You really get see up close which makes all the difference. Thank you ❤️
Thank you so much Dawn!! 🥰
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith what camera setup are you using to achieve this
@@UrBrother_711 I use my iPhone 11 Pro Max! Can you believe it? 😄
Like what Debra said that you show how things really are while setting stones .love this video because many other videos on RUclips are mostly edited and nothing bad ever happens .lol welcome to the real world . Practice and then practice more ...thank you for sharing
You’re so right! Thank you for encouraging me to show more of those moments. 😁
This video gonna have Many like share and views . We apreciate your work ! Keep IT like this and You gonna be the Best
Thank you! I’m glad you are liking my videos! 😁
Wowww. We love this video.greate from Romania!! Amazing content
😊 thank you!
Super helpful and informative. Thank you for showing the problems that can easily arise and the process of determining the steps to adjust and correct. This is what makes a great teacher and you have a real talent for it. This also shines a light on the importance of patience and tons of practice. Lol... I really want to learn to work with my gravers but I'm still struggling with the angles and sharpening/preparing them. It can be very intimidating and frustrating. Thanks for showing the alternative options for such as me. Lol.. well done!
Using and sharpening gravers is definitely a big challenge, but so worth it if you can get through the growing by pains. I hope to have some videos this coming year about sharpening and more using of them.
Thank you, great video.
Thank you!
Very helpful! Thanks
You’re welcome!
Hi again, I noticed that in your basket setting videos (making and setting), you didn’t use any lubricant with your bits, yet in this video you chose it for your drill bits. What is your criteria for those choices; please and thank you?
Thank you for the info!
Thank you so much for watching. I truly appreciate it!
Thank you for the video. Why won't you set your piece in the pitch or thermoloc or other work holds? Wouldn't be easier?
Normally I use thermoloc, but I thought I’d be able to get a better angle with the camera up on the bench… didn’t quite go as planned 🤣
Hi Julessa, I'm rewatching this for the 4th time. I just noticed that in the marking section you mention that you want to set your dividers to 1mm larger than your stone, which in this case your stone is 3mm so you said to set them to 4mm. You immediately (no editing) set your dividers to 3mm, not 4mm, and proceeded. How does thia effect the spacing? My piece worked out and my previous comment addressed my frustration with what sewms like prongs that ended up too large. Could accurate (or inaccurate) spacing cause issues? What is the actual correct formula for spacing (all parameters) based on stone size? Thanks again.
Hello FlyingChef! I totally missed this comment somehow… 🤪. I will have to go back and re-watch the video and make the edit. The reason for the extra 1mm spacing is to provide 1/2 a millimeter on each side of the stone to help with prong size and the spacing between the stones. True pave is very close together, usually splitting one chink of metal into 2 separate prongs on each one, but it really depends on the aesthetic you’re going for in the overall design. I have been successful with both methods (plus a millimeter or exact size). Yes, inaccurate spacing can cause issues. The worst thing would be to not have enough material to create proper prongs. It’s better to have a little too much that you can eliminate than to not have enough. I’m sure there is a very specific formula if you attend a true, professional diamond setting class, but even then, every teacher does it differently 😃. The best instruction I found was from Jewellery Training Solutions and they recommend 1mm bigger than the stone, so 4mm for a 3mm stone. In my own experience, this has worked out the best, but I’m not an expert just yet, so a lot of the time it’s still a gamble for me. I think the more you do it, the more intuitive it becomes and you work out the kinks and proceed with what works for you. That’s the beauty of this craft, everyone does it differently and as long as the stone stays in, it looks clean and professional, and you can replicate the process, you’re doing well. Hope this helps, a little at least. 😄
Do you have a video where you use the Graver instead of the cylinder burr?
I don’t have one yet, but I can put it on the list of videos to make. 😁
And yet another comment: so, I’m practicing this and have the exact same measurements of metal as you. You’ve chosen 4mm between stones, but then you choose 1.5mm as the middle of 4mm. How does this work? Perhaps that may be a part of the problem with thick prongs….? What do you think?
The pilot hole for the start of the seat is generally started at about 1/2 the diameter of the stone. This creates less friction on the bur when opening the seat, but I still recommend opening the seat progressively after the pilot hole. For example, for a 4mm stone, drill a 2mm pilot hole, then use a 3mm ball bur to open the seat, and then finish with a 4mm hart bur to fine tune the setting. And, if I didn’t state it clearly in the video, I always use a bur lubricant of some sort - sometimes I forget to mention it because it’s second-nature to me ☺️ Hope this answers your question!
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith Sooo grateful for your time to answer, thank you. That sort of makes sense. There'd always a but if room needed with burning. BTW, my first practice piece turned out amazing. I went slowly and precisely, I'm casting it in my casting class this week! Thanks for being there, your video was unusually excellent on this subject- even with your own challenges- I really got the vision. 🌺
Learn to make the holes by eye. Will save you so much time. A good tutorial for beginners. But too extra steps that can be avoided with skill and practice
Thank you so much Iggy! I definitely need more practice and am always amazed when I see experienced jewelers do it by eye 😀