On US tractors made since 2006, the offroad diesel engine has a manufacturing date (mm/yyyy) label on its valve train cover. The tractor manufacturing date will be pretty close to this engine manufacturing date within a couple of months.
Good, to see you are Still putting out videos, with Valuable informational we want/need…. Have a “new” tractor sitting in a enclosed storage unit, purchased November 30th 2020, with a whole 25 hours on it - Between delaying retirement due to financial reasons, Covid, and some health issues, it has only been used twice - But, as far as I’m concerned, it’s still New - Looks new, smells new, no wear and tear… But, even with that said, a 3 year old tractor is NOT A NEW TRACTOR - and, dealers that are trying to pass them off as NEW, IS FRAUD…!!!
My Massey Ferguson GC1723e actually has a model year stamped on the serial number plate. I thought so and paused the video and went to my barn to make sure.
Now it's been 30 years ago, but I worked for Kubota dealer back then. At that time Kubota considered the year of the tractor whatever date it was sold. So if a tractor was delivered to the dealer in 2021 and it sat on the lot not sold until 2024, Kubota would have considered it a 2024 model. I don't know if that's the way they still do it, but seeing as how they don't publish a S/N list, I tend to think that's the way they still do it. I don't think you have to worry much about a 3 year old tractor, but a friend of mine bought a very low hour tractor that was 10 years old, and when he started using it the tractor more or less fell apart. The story on the tractor is a local construction contractor also has a hobby farm and more money than he knows what to do with, he buys tractors and other equipment just for a tax write off and a lot of the stuff just sits in the shed. It was a 10 year old 100hp JD with right at 200 hours on it. My friend paid premium because of the low hours, but when he actually started using it he had all kinds of leaks and other problems. So it's almost harder on a tractor to just sit than it is to actually use it.
Great video Mike and great explanation. I do wish tractor manufacturers would make it easier to figure out when the tractor was manufactured. Thanks Mike I enjoyed your video.
Back when I worked at a Kubota dealer the date it was sold was the year of the tractor. That would explain why they don't publish a S/N list, because they don't know the year of a particular tractor until it is sold. It wouldn't be a sequential number list either, you can have a lower S/N tractor actually be a newer year than a higher S/N tractor, depending on when it was sold.
New means that the factory warranty clock hasn't started yet, it could have been abused and had it's first 50 hours service. Used can mean someone bought it, let it set in their climate controlled garage used it a fraction of an hour and decided they needed a larger one, traded it in with most of the warranty stil left but the clock having been started. Both new and used can be anywhere between the paint is still curing, to a few years of setting around. He didn't have what I described in stock, he had to order mine, it was assembled from components still in the pipeline and had the previous years features. It had 4 hours on its hour meter, filling all the fluids, driving around and double checking everything, apparently take somewhere around 4 hours run time. So basically the difference between new and used is super hazy and it has more to do with your skill as a negotiator what it's worth.
You can look up the tractor and find cosmetic changes from year to year. They moved the light switches every year since I bought my tractor. 2020 is one place, 2021, another, 2022 another, 2023 another and 2024 still another place. There's almost always some change from one year to another.
You're wrong about Kabota . The 16-digit serial number is on the right-hand side up by the front, both labeled and stamped. The 10th digit gives you an alfa code for the year of manufacture. The code can be found on the internet.
If he's just looking at the website, what are the chances it's a popular seller so they just keep the ad up and flip through the tractors? I know our one local dealer does that with implements
So, I bought a Ford 3910 II last week, all the information under the hood on the tag is legible but I still don't know the year. Know it's between 1983-1989. It's one owner, bought it from our neighbor sons, their dad bought it new and they're selling the farm... Idea on where I find the year? Will check out your link you posted. Thanks
The easiest place to check is the rims, because there is always a date stamped into them. It won't be exact, but close. For example, my Case IH 485's rims say they were made in 1989, the serial tag says its a 1990, and it wasn't sold until 1991 because it came with the next generation loader on it. I hope this helps.
Sounds to me that one dealer was 4 miles from camp and the other same brand dealer was 10 miles from home don’t know how far home and camp are from each other they could very well be 250 miles apart not 14
If the tractor has really been sitting on the lot for three years that tells me they aren't serious about being on the business. Their prices are too high and based on what things were selling for during supply chain problem time period. They don't understand the current market. Anything will sell at the right price. They probably primarily sell something else and just signed up to be a dealer for a lower tier brand.
I didn’t know it at the time I purchased my Mahindra 2665 but after listening to you talk about this I now know my tractor was one they must have been paying interest on. Thinking back I remember telling myself that it looks like it’s been sitting for a while, and it had been. Bottom line I got $2000 off listed price, a W R Long 3rd function valve and had my rear wheels turned out to a wider stance. Had I seen ur video two years ago I would have kept asking for more. All in all I left satisfied that I got a good deal and no regrets👍 Your channel has really educated me on tractor stuff. You provide a great service to the whole community. Thanks!
Im a woman and i think some dealers (not all but some) treat women customers differently than they do men when negotiating a equipment deal..... just sayin..
Try a different dealer. More specifically, a different salesman. Yeah, it happens. It shouldn't, but does. I knew of a man that was not dressed well, and was shunned by 2 dealers sales staff, but at the 3rd, the salesman didn't pay attention to what he looked like. They made the deal and the customer paid in cash. There are good ones out there. Shop until you are comfortable.
On US tractors made since 2006, the offroad diesel engine has a manufacturing date (mm/yyyy) label on its valve train cover. The tractor manufacturing date will be pretty close to this engine manufacturing date within a couple of months.
LS has a model year of production right on the tractor. Must be an honest manufacturer.
Good, to see you are Still putting out videos, with Valuable informational we want/need…. Have a “new” tractor sitting in a enclosed storage unit, purchased November 30th 2020, with a whole 25 hours on it - Between delaying retirement due to financial reasons, Covid, and some health issues, it has only been used twice - But, as far as I’m concerned, it’s still New - Looks new, smells new, no wear and tear… But, even with that said, a 3 year old tractor is NOT A NEW TRACTOR - and, dealers that are trying to pass them off as NEW, IS FRAUD…!!!
My Massey Ferguson GC1723e actually has a model year stamped on the serial number plate. I thought so and paused the video and went to my barn to make sure.
Just went thru this. I want a 24 hes got 22. 23. Been sitting in the sun for 2 yrs dont want it
Now it's been 30 years ago, but I worked for Kubota dealer back then. At that time Kubota considered the year of the tractor whatever date it was sold. So if a tractor was delivered to the dealer in 2021 and it sat on the lot not sold until 2024, Kubota would have considered it a 2024 model. I don't know if that's the way they still do it, but seeing as how they don't publish a S/N list, I tend to think that's the way they still do it.
I don't think you have to worry much about a 3 year old tractor, but a friend of mine bought a very low hour tractor that was 10 years old, and when he started using it the tractor more or less fell apart. The story on the tractor is a local construction contractor also has a hobby farm and more money than he knows what to do with, he buys tractors and other equipment just for a tax write off and a lot of the stuff just sits in the shed. It was a 10 year old 100hp JD with right at 200 hours on it. My friend paid premium because of the low hours, but when he actually started using it he had all kinds of leaks and other problems. So it's almost harder on a tractor to just sit than it is to actually use it.
If you use the serial number on the tires to determine how old they are, the tractor is probably about the same age too.
Great video Mike and great explanation. I do wish tractor manufacturers would make it easier to figure out when the tractor was manufactured. Thanks Mike I enjoyed your video.
Back when I worked at a Kubota dealer the date it was sold was the year of the tractor. That would explain why they don't publish a S/N list, because they don't know the year of a particular tractor until it is sold. It wouldn't be a sequential number list either, you can have a lower S/N tractor actually be a newer year than a higher S/N tractor, depending on when it was sold.
New means that the factory warranty clock hasn't started yet, it could have been abused and had it's first 50 hours service.
Used can mean someone bought it, let it set in their climate controlled garage used it a fraction of an hour and decided they needed a larger one, traded it in with most of the warranty stil left but the clock having been started.
Both new and used can be anywhere between the paint is still curing, to a few years of setting around.
He didn't have what I described in stock, he had to order mine, it was assembled from components still in the pipeline and had the previous years features. It had 4 hours on its hour meter, filling all the fluids, driving around and double checking everything, apparently take somewhere around 4 hours run time. So basically the difference between new and used is super hazy and it has more to do with your skill as a negotiator what it's worth.
Sounds like great information.
You can look up the tractor and find cosmetic changes from year to year. They moved the light switches every year since I bought my tractor. 2020 is one place, 2021, another, 2022 another, 2023 another and 2024 still another place.
There's almost always some change from one year to another.
This is true insight. Just went and visited a kioti dealership, they had 3 kiotis in stock... Could order me one ... Nah.
You're wrong about Kabota . The 16-digit serial number is on the right-hand side up by the front, both labeled and stamped. The 10th digit gives you an alfa code for the year of manufacture. The code can be found on the internet.
If he's just looking at the website, what are the chances it's a popular seller so they just keep the ad up and flip through the tractors? I know our one local dealer does that with implements
interesting mike ty
Date codes on tires?
So, I bought a Ford 3910 II last week, all the information under the hood on the tag is legible but I still don't know the year. Know it's between 1983-1989.
It's one owner, bought it from our neighbor sons, their dad bought it new and they're selling the farm...
Idea on where I find the year? Will check out your link you posted. Thanks
The easiest place to check is the rims, because there is always a date stamped into them. It won't be exact, but close. For example, my Case IH 485's rims say they were made in 1989, the serial tag says its a 1990, and it wasn't sold until 1991 because it came with the next generation loader on it. I hope this helps.
Sounds to me that one dealer was 4 miles from camp and the other same brand dealer was 10 miles from home don’t know how far home and camp are from each other they could very well be 250 miles apart not 14
Would think it would be unethical - if not outright illegal, to hide such pertinent information from consumers.
Some dealers want to make $100 on one sale, others want to make $1 on a hundred sales. The latter work harder for the customers.
If the tractor has really been sitting on the lot for three years that tells me they aren't serious about being on the business. Their prices are too high and based on what things were selling for during supply chain problem time period. They don't understand the current market. Anything will sell at the right price. They probably primarily sell something else and just signed up to be a dealer for a lower tier brand.
I didn’t know it at the time I purchased my Mahindra 2665 but after listening to you talk about this I now know my tractor was one they must have been paying interest on. Thinking back I remember telling myself that it looks like it’s been sitting for a while, and it had been. Bottom line I got $2000 off listed price, a W R Long 3rd function valve and had my rear wheels turned out to a wider stance. Had I seen ur video two years ago I would have kept asking for more. All in all I left satisfied that I got a good deal and no regrets👍
Your channel has really educated me on tractor stuff. You provide a great service to the whole community. Thanks!
Let's Go CHIEFS!!!!
Im a woman and i think some dealers (not all but some) treat women customers differently than they do men when negotiating a equipment deal..... just sayin..
Try a different dealer. More specifically, a different salesman. Yeah, it happens. It shouldn't, but does. I knew of a man that was not dressed well, and was shunned by 2 dealers sales staff, but at the 3rd, the salesman didn't pay attention to what he looked like. They made the deal and the customer paid in cash. There are good ones out there. Shop until you are comfortable.
Yes, it happens. Having worked at a dealership though, I often found the women to be the toughest negotiators.
@@m16ty I feel like I am I good negotiator!!
@@MorganOtt-ne1qj Thank you!