This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
@@hector8491 I don't trust any of the government that s why I'm studying law for criminal defense civil rights and lawsuits against bad cops and bad officials in office I'm homeless I always record the cops now on RUclips to my rights against police and bad government people
When I was a security guard over 20 years ago (going through college) in a 6 story 210,000 sq ft building loaded with offices and cubicals, I used to check every single office and cubical on my rounds for this very reason. My bosses hated it with a passion (what else would you expect from lazy ass, corrupt cops) but I warned them about these circumstances so they didn't argue with me but lots of eyerolls occurred. I did end up finding an employee passed out on the floor in a conference room on a Saturday during a 4 day weekend. Also found a water leak that was running 24/7 that the lazy ass facilities department couldn't find.
this was the first thing that came to my mind; where was security? and did they check each floor and cube/ office? unless however the lady passed or was slumped over appeared as if she was alive and working
That's a lie. This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
@@hector8491i agree fully. I feel security who ticked a box that they did full walk thrus were obviously lying. But I go a day ir 2 with non urgent emails before response. I hope they learn about how to decrease this. Like make in person workers sit closer together. I thought I heard she was in a separate area and she was the only 1 coming IRL to work. Hence why I blame security for length of time before finding her.
She died of a sudden cardiac event secondary to myocardial fibrosis. In life she kept to herself. She worked in an "underpopulated area" of the office space, and she was the only one at that location on the team she worked with. What do you want to bet that they don't even FILL her position and let the other locations manage that team's work...and let other employees just fill in the gap with the extra work that would have been hers when someone at that location DOES need to work on this team?
100% for several reasons 1.)mgmt discourages socializing 2.)men dont talk to women anymore, out of metoo, or whatever 3.)you dont often like or trust your co workers 4.)talking, often gets you more work or problems to fix thrown your way unless you're schmoozing, the smart move in office culture is to keep your head down, shut up, and go home, making as few waves as possible
Exactly. Most of my floors are empty since WFH. I just went in for the first time in years and I saw 2 people and one was the security guard . And as a salaried employee, we aren’t checked on. I could probably go a few business days before my manager would ask me if I was ok. But my cool coworkers would probably be texting me asking where the hell I was. It’s more sad that she didn’t have family worried about her
Ditto. I'm responsible enough to do my work w/o supervision. Additionally, I'm an introvert so not responding to texts/calls is not alarming to friends and family.
@@Chick_Fishing Maybe now you will at least give a 👍/shout out to let others know that you are breathing. Have a friend who is bad about doing the same thing.
My mom uses an app where you have to check in daily at a set time. You pick who you check in with. Her mom who was living alone, fell in the bathroom and was there for 2 days.
I'm younger than you and not in this position yet, but easily could be. I'm trying to build up a network for myself but also to be that network for others.
@@TheKnellBelleso do I, but if I'm on the clock for over almost 96 hours, I'm at least having management yelling at me for not clocking out because they aren't paying for that kind of overtime. They also aren't waiting that long for updates on work.
@@willtetreault3181some companies only keep up with payroll bi weekly. I work for a large company that’ll call you at the end of the pay period asking if you forgot to clock out.
I have to suspect that the Ramsey team is unaware just how bad work culture is generally at almost any place. People brag about how well the Ramsey team operates, how well Dave treats his staff, etc. etc, which leads me to assume that they all live in a bubble. Outside of their bubble people are significantly underpaid, overworked, and not seen as human.
Nah, it’s a borderline cult. Do as leader Dave says or you’re shunned. Ken confirms this in this episode, where he’s shocked it took longer than 3 minutes to figure out she had passed. This implies that when you’re an employee at Ramsey, someone is looking over your shoulder more frequently than once every 3 minutes. Screw that
He's a delusional boomer and a psyop. "Work hard, work hard, work hard, isolate yourself, sell your soul, save money, work until you are too old to enjoy life, even when next day is never guaranteed"
This story is truly heart-wrenching. It is a sad reality that as we age, we often find ourselves less checked on by co-workers, friends, and even family members. We must strive to improve as a society.
My brother-in-law passed away at his computer repair shop working on a computer late at night. When his business partner came in the next morning, he called out to him, was making small talk as he was going through the office taking care of things, and it took him a bit of time to realize that he was actually dead and felt horrible that he'd not realized it instantly, but he was just hunched over like he was working and hyper focused. :-(
She was probably ignored to death because she was 60 . Ageism exists in the workplace , and unlike racism and sexism , it's tolerated and even accepted .
What's really messed up is when they found her body they made employees stay in the building that day and they could still smell the body and all the chemicals they used to clean up,”some employees went home sick. The Union is demanding big changes.
My dad passed away in his office too. They found him a few hours later when he did show up to a meeting. He worked like a dog, over 30 years at same company. Worked weekends and never took a vacation. He was only a few years away from retirement.
@cutehumor it was a union/government job in Seattle. Sorry for the distain, but they treated him well, it wasn't their fault. I don't wanna call them out.
I'm sorry. My dad died suddenly at home with the door of the master bedroom closed. We didn't find him for an hour or two, I'm guessing. I think a few hours is reasonable if someone passes quietly.
People can't just quit their job if it pays well to go find a nice social job Ken. Also after working in a restaurant being abused by customers I was SO glad to have a desk job where I am on my own.
Nobody said quit your job today with nothing lined up.... you're free to look for another job while still employed... plus, how many years are you going to use that as an excuse? "If you're not changing, you're choosing" I work a very isolated job, and while my employer couldn't know within minutes or even hours a lot of times, they definitely won't take 3 days to check on me. There was once a miscommunication and I went to bed (I work nights) after checking in with a worker and I woke up with 17 missed calls from my employer because they were told nobody heard from me that morning and thought I was dead. They were definitely freaked out and I was almost woken up by police at my door to check on me. Outside of ensuring I'm alive and well, I'm left alone.
I am still asking this.......yes, Where was the security guard. Where was the cleaning crew. Where was the leadership to ask Denise about not clocking out. Where was ANYONE at Wells Fargo that would just check in with employees and say good morning. Where were the cameras to monitor the hallways for safety. I personally believe this is 100% on Wells Fargo. WHERE ARE THE SAFETY MEASURES.
My guess would be two fat lazy security guards who only have to check on the perimeter doors due to a company "privacy policy" scared about people stealing stuff etc
This happens when people are regarded merely as a unit of production. This happens in offices where socialization and non-work communication is unacceptable. If you are talking to your buddy for a few minutes at work and a manager yells "get back to work" that's an environment that encourages isolation.
A lot like the environment at Ramsey. Especially if you aren’t talking about church or finance or happen to not be republican or god forbid lgbtq or living in sin
So what you want is micromanagement? This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
If I remember this right some of the staff complained and requested a plumber to check on the "sewer smell" thinking it was a drain problem on the Monday.
I'll say it if no one else will--- Wells Fargo is an awful company. The way they treated us the week our daughter was dying is something i will never forget. We were maybe 60 days behind on our car payment (i believe for the first time, BTW--- which was a miracle with both us being out of work for the 2.5 years our daughter battled brain cancer) and i told them I'd call them after she passed and not even wait until the funeral was done. I just wanted every moment with her and couldn't worry about making a payment when my 3 year old was dying. They did not care. At all. Thankfully, we had an angel of a friend just straight up pay off our van so we didn't ever have to deal with WF again, but i will NEVER use WF by choice for any financial services.
Autopay is the best way to go for car payments, house payments so you don't have to always think about it. Most generally if you call your creditors about a situation, they will work with you. Most people cannot afford to have their car repossessed or their house foreclosed on - even when life gets bad. I have lost immediate family members as well. It's horrible but you still have to pay your bills.
Maybe... it seems like she lived alone. But say she had a friend that she talks to once a week. What if she had just talked to that friend on Thursday? I think all of society needs to step up. Co-workers, yes, but neighbors, friends, extended family if she had any.
Something needs to happen for people to stop taking what they have for granted. People are asking where this persons family and friends were? People take for granted having a husband or a wife, people take for granted having kids, people take for granted having friends. It’s not because some are weird or ugly or bad people. You can everything going for you and be a great person and not have those things. The fact is is that having a husband or wife and kids at home has been so normalised and taken for granted that the people who don’t have those things and not always by choice are being forgotten about.
Two years ago, one of my coworkers died on the break room table. Plenty more died over the weekends and holidays. This is what the govt wants. No social security paid. All we hear about is people living longer but never the percentage of people who are still employed at time of death.
😮😮It depends, I worked in a private office. If I died at my desk, my friends might think I am out with clients when I don’t go down to the lunchroom. Janitors only come in once a week. How many people live alone at home.
In many offices today. Here's how it works: you going to a virtually empty office because you're told to, you do your work, you have mostly virtual meetings, then you go home. This is why the situation happened ultimately. Teams are no longer being located like they used to be where they proximity effect.
This same thing happened at a state government office building a year or so ago in my state. It took days for the body to be noticed in that case, too. Horrifying.
@@TheyRiseBandwhat do you both suggest, that companies abolish the remote work policy and force everyone to attend team lunches, socialize, and attend team outings? Do you want managers to micromanage? So anytime I'm away from my laptop, they should immediately call my personal phone?
Had a 64-65 year old coworker die of a heart attack on the job. He collapsed in the break room in front of my boss. Cannot imagine no one noticing a dead person for 3+ days.
I dont show up at office for 2 hours since the reporting time and my colleagues start calling me as to where I am. Thats a rule we have in our office to know if your colleague is fine. If something isnt fine as per office rule, one of my colleague will get a one day additional paid leave to be with me and make sure everything is fine. Thanks to my employer to care for the employees so much.
From what I was able to find out, she has a sister and two brothers who live in Louisiana. It's not surprising that no one noticed her missing for a few days.
I have watched a lot of Ramsay videos but don't recall ever commenting on one. In 2016, while caring for my mom who had advanced Alzheimer's - that is, she was in final stages and I visited her daily - I had a contract at Wells in Charlotte. Work culture was terrible, overall. Though I had full remote access once the probationary period ended, my boss refused to let me work at home even two days a week so I could commute less and see my mom more easily. She passed away towards the end of the contract. When it ended, I was very glad to escape Wells Fargo.
My adult son has mental illness. We haven’t heard from him in 5 months. I don’t know where he is. He disappears often like this. We went 2 years without knowing where he was. It’s horribly sad. But he doesn’t hold down any reg job, and we can’t force him to get help. He’s an adult. 😞
I can understand not finding her for a few hours. Management shouldn't be constantly checking up on people, so that could easily happen. But doesn't the office get cleaned over the weekend? And don't they do anything when someone doesn't report for work? I just don't understand how this is possible. The article I read said she was in a cubicle. She wasn't even shut away in an office. It was a cubicle. A cubicle off in a corner somewhere, but still... Other people in the office say there was a foul odour, but they assumed it was a plumbing problem... It's absolutely crazy.
Call Centre jobs never check on if you don't show up. The cleaning dapartment also works a set of hours before they go home. 8 hours of work. it does not mean the whole office is cleaned.
Easily could have been a security control failure where the badging system either is not configured to send alerts that someone has been checked in for extended time or the system was faulty, or it worked properly but security guards did not investigate the issue thoroughly. In regards to the cleaning crew, it's likely they cleaned Thursday night, and with many companies having hybrid work policies, and in combination with Monday being a holiday, they would not be required to clean on Friday because it's a ghost town. Any other mysteries I can solve for you???
@hector8491 I wouldn't expect the security system to be tracking employees like that and never suggested that it would. Office buildings are usually cleaned on a daily basis. Even if they reduced the cleaning schedule because the office was being used less, there should be cleaning at some point between Friday and the next Tuesday. What holiday? There is no holiday on the 19th of August...
In 1975 , I was locked in a military mental ward and given medicine that made me feel really bad . I told a psychiatrist that I couldn't stand it anymore. Obviously, no one taking "Haldal" liked it, so maybe that's why he ignored me. I couldn't take it anymore. You couldn't imagine how awful that stuff was. I took every tablet of this stuff I could find and woke up 3 days later with an amazing hangover. I also found that no doctor and none of the 5 male nurses in that "lockup" of about 50 patients had noticed. I tried to kill myself because I thought no one cared what was happening to me . When I regained consciousness, I knew it was true.
Corporations like Wells Fargo only care about the shareholder and the C-suite. Employees are a disposable means to an end -- even if that includes the end of the employee. HR likely had a replacement candidate on the phone within the hour they learned that this woman had died without management approval. Her estate likely received what remained of her paycheck after taxes, cleaning fees, and docking for being unproductive at her desk. The reprimand is in her email along with her performance improvement plan meeting date. Welcome to Wells Fargo.
This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
So what you're advocating for is micromanagement and companies forcing it's employees to go into the office and go out on team events? Yeah, no thanks. This was an accident. That's it.
@@hector8491right. If I die at work, the least of my worries would be how I wasn’t discovered by my coworkers, but the family part is sad. I try to keep to myself, sounds like she may have been the same way.
This happened at a company that I worked for back in 2000. The man died at his desk at the end of a conference call. His red light was lite at his desk, and we didn't interrupt him. This was on Friday, he always worked late each day. Security did find him Saturday morning when his wife couldn't find him.
I work remote and do not have to interact with coworkers daily. Manager is really hands off and I could go 2 weeks without an email (hardly calls me). I've had micromanagers before as well in the office with daily and weekly status report to submit. Sorry, I'd rather be left alone to let me do my work.
Exactly. People are quick to turn this accident around and abolish the remote policy all together. What's next, managers calling me every time my status shows I'm away for 5 minutes or forcing me to eat lunches and socialize with everyone? Smh.
Where i work, lots of hybrid. Its a skeleton crew on friday and monday, hardly anyone in the office. Luckily someone else on my team comes in on fridays when i go in, but honestly, no one would find us until Monday or Tuesday. Except my parents would hopefully figure it out because theyd get a call when i dont pick up my daughter from daycare
If this happened this week then I think it makes sense. Veterans day was on Monday and the banks were closed. I would bet a lot of the employees wanted to leave early on Friday to enjoy the long weekend.
I work in IT in a warehouse of 4000 workers. On 2 separate saturdays that I work alone, there has been 2 major fires and the building needed to evacuate. I was never told of the evacuations, only saw people leave in a hurry and not notify me that the building is evacuating (fire outside, so no alarms going off but people being told to leave early). The building does not value me, and I have been working towards clearing up my debt and saving at least 6months, so I can quit and find a place that will value my life in an emergency.
I know in a couple of decades, this could be me. I am the youngest in my family of origin, and my husband is a bit older than I am. We don’t have kids, nieces, or nephews, so I know this could be me at work or home.
I also work for a bank. I recall spending countless hours, stressing to meet deadlines that always seem to move, but we're always "important". I heard of this story and promised myself that I will not end up like this. These corporations don't give a FK about us. We're a number on a balance sheet, regardless of what we do for the company
Sorry about the poor lady. But! Their security sucks. You have a 9-5 worker clock in but not out for 4 days? That system should tell them who is there, where they should be and whether they should even be there at that time.
Honestly, with the prevalence of remote work, it doesn't surprise me that nobody was around the office to find her. Four years after Covid there are still many offices that sit virtually unused. The sad part is that she apparently had no family, friends, or community whatsoever that noticed she was missing for that long.
Not everyone is extroverted with a bunch of friends, let alone work friends. Not everyone has family. Not everyone clocks in/out. I’m sure this was not a typical WF banking branch but an executive office. Many offices now barely have workers; I counted 2 on my floor that is huge and can accommodate hundreds; and I only saw them in passing in the halls; the office was nearly empty on a Thursday. This lady had a very sad story. And who knows if she would’ve been found at all if she was WFH. So sad.
I just found out that the union removed staff phone numbers and called it harassment if staff is a no call no show and someone tries to call you to find out if you are okay or not coming in. 😅
This story is classic American capitalism. This is what America is all about. You are nothing more than a number on a spreadsheet and you'll be discarded as easily as pressing the delete key. All I want to know is, did she make it to the end of the day because if she didn't Wells Fargo would deduct those hours from her final paycheck!
If this is an Example of American Capitalism, then how exactly does American Socialism or Communism stop this from happening? Either way the lady still dies at her desk.
Most employees are invisible. They probably noticed something is wrong after she didn’t clock in for several days. Most employers check in only when they are trying to figure out why the WORK isn’t getting done. It’s been this way since I started my work life at 16 years old and now I’m 55 years old. I just wonder if she had family that had missed her but it sounds like she didn’t because my husband and son would notice I didn’t make it home on day one.
Maybe she was positioned like she was taking a nap with jher down on on her desk, so janitors didn't want to disturb and maybe her ofc/,cubical was off in a corner or something but you would think her supervisors would check her.
I work close to this WF, I was so disappointed in humanity with this one. Return to work mandates and unassigned hotel style cubes feed this disconnectedness. Corporate does not care about people and people wonder why we fight for work from home? At least if she was home she wouldn’t have died in a cube farm.
This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
My husband's works for a company that makes paint for our roads. A man died a couple months ago and a machine crushed him. My husband's was a few feet away. They made everyone continue work the bext day like a man didn't just die. Of course OSHA got involved but the company had no real remorse for that man that died with a family and wife dying of cancer. Jobs dont care about us and this so sad she had nobody notice she never left work so sad bless her and her family
Well I think that the fact that she wasn't found for such a long amount of time shows us that we've become to the point where we don't interact face-to-face with each other I mean real like live face to face that we don't understand that you know there's a balance their
I was just saying this to other co-workers, someone has to care. People are so focused on themselves, and their devices, no one sees the Human Side of things anymore.
That story was so disturbing to me when i read it. It tells me more about the co-workers and the management than it told me about her. She probably died of a heartbreak. It seems that nobody really cared about her.
Some people’s jobs keep them so stressed and aggravated, they want to be left alone. Bosses don’t care that people are overburdened and exhausted. They look good for running the operation with fewer staff. Somehow this happens even in government jobs. A manager in a government department should not have the opportunity to benefit by wearing people out.
@zachwarren280 - It DOES sound like Monday would have been a regular workday in August. Must have been a bit creepy for those who were there on Monday working close to where she was but didn't know until Tuesday.
Ever since covid, most people at the building I work at, work from home. Recently the company decided to consolidate the few that still come in. The 3rd floor is empty now, they all work from the 2nd floor.
oh yep. She was found because a manager sent an email she didn't respond to and then that Mgr sent someone to her cube to ask why she didn't answer the email. Oh, and you missed that others smelled a foul odor and reported it to Mgmt to.
Not all office get cleaned everyday. I clean for a real estate office and an insurance office and I only go in once a week to clean them. It’s just a little trash, dusting and mopping of floors. It’s not needed everyday.
@ I get smaller offices but Wells Fargo isn’t small. I also work for a large company and there is some sort of cleaning that happens every day. 4 days seems like a lot.
In my office most folks elect for their Work from home days to be Fridays and/or Mondays. So like most commenters here, I can see how this could happen.
I used to work a job where I was the inventory specialist person for a grocery retailer, and I needed to do my job when there wasn't any product moving around the freezer warehouse and very few to no one in the building. It took a while for the company to get me a two way radio to call into asset protection so I could alert them each half hour I was OK. If they didn't hear from me, they would send someone in the freezer to look for me. It was cold enough that if I broke my leg in the freezer and couldn't walk, I could die from hypothermia after a few hours if no one noticed I was in there.
This is the actual tragedy and shocker. Not that someone has a job that doesn’t require face to face and it’s a bank and probably closed over the weekend.
Its been some time since I read a news article on this but I think she had no husband and lived alone. My family does not call me daily and I suspect her family does not either.
Sounds like my old job. It had a get in the cagey wagey and be quiet. I could totally see a dead body going unnoticed there for days too. Especially on a 3 day weekend in particular.
These days in the real world you can go 1day to 1 week without response to email or text and nobody answers the phone. I deal with this all the time from customers and venders. Don't get me started on fellow employees they can be even worse.
This is how much these companies care about you
This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
The don't care about you why do you think there's so many homeless people
@@hector8491 I don't trust any of the government that s why I'm studying law for criminal defense civil rights and lawsuits against bad cops and bad officials in office I'm homeless I always record the cops now on RUclips to my rights against police and bad government people
Maybe if it had not been on Friday, she might still be alive depending on the cause of death. She obviously had a health condition.
Didn’t she work with other people who would notice if she was there??
When I was a security guard over 20 years ago (going through college) in a 6 story 210,000 sq ft building loaded with offices and cubicals, I used to check every single office and cubical on my rounds for this very reason. My bosses hated it with a passion (what else would you expect from lazy ass, corrupt cops) but I warned them about these circumstances so they didn't argue with me but lots of eyerolls occurred. I did end up finding an employee passed out on the floor in a conference room on a Saturday during a 4 day weekend. Also found a water leak that was running 24/7 that the lazy ass facilities department couldn't find.
It's people like you that keep good alive in the world, friend. Thank you so much.
this was the first thing that came to my mind; where was security? and did they check each floor and cube/ office? unless however the lady passed or was slumped over appeared as if she was alive and working
You are amazing.
We all know that her position was refilled by the end of the week
Unit 539743 reporting to cubicle!
Probably docked her pay for cleaning.
That's a lie. This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
@@hector8491i agree fully. I feel security who ticked a box that they did full walk thrus were obviously lying.
But I go a day ir 2 with non urgent emails before response. I hope they learn about how to decrease this. Like make in person workers sit closer together. I thought I heard she was in a separate area and she was the only 1 coming IRL to work. Hence why I blame security for length of time before finding her.
She died of a sudden cardiac event secondary to myocardial fibrosis. In life she kept to herself. She worked in an "underpopulated area" of the office space, and she was the only one at that location on the team she worked with.
What do you want to bet that they don't even FILL her position and let the other locations manage that team's work...and let other employees just fill in the gap with the extra work that would have been hers when someone at that location DOES need to work on this team?
No one who has worked for a large corporation is at all surprised by this story. Especially banking.
100% for several reasons
1.)mgmt discourages socializing
2.)men dont talk to women anymore, out of metoo, or whatever
3.)you dont often like or trust your co workers
4.)talking, often gets you more work or problems to fix thrown your way
unless you're schmoozing, the smart move in office culture is to keep your head down, shut up, and go home, making as few waves as possible
She didn’t make her numbers.
I work for a large corporation and can go a week or more without hearing from anyone.
Exactly. Most of my floors are empty since WFH. I just went in for the first time in years and I saw 2 people and one was the security guard . And as a salaried employee, we aren’t checked on. I could probably go a few business days before my manager would ask me if I was ok. But my cool coworkers would probably be texting me asking where the hell I was. It’s more sad that she didn’t have family worried about her
😢or government!!!
As a 60 something single woman who works remotely I could be dead for 3 or more days before I was found. Isolation is a real thing
Ditto. I'm responsible enough to do my work w/o supervision. Additionally, I'm an introvert so not responding to texts/calls is not alarming to friends and family.
@@Chick_Fishing
Maybe now you will at least give a 👍/shout out to let others know that you are breathing.
Have a friend who is bad about doing the same thing.
My mom uses an app where you have to check in daily at a set time. You pick who you check in with. Her mom who was living alone, fell in the bathroom and was there for 2 days.
@@tomigirl30I'm sorry
I'm younger than you and not in this position yet, but easily could be.
I'm trying to build up a network for myself but also to be that network for others.
I work nearby. Her cubicle was a rear cube, not in a front area. She was not found until other employees started complaining about a smell. Sad.
So did she just keep to herself a lot?
@@TheKnellBelle As far as i remember, she had no family, no friends. I work across the street.
@@TheKnellBelleso do I, but if I'm on the clock for over almost 96 hours, I'm at least having management yelling at me for not clocking out because they aren't paying for that kind of overtime. They also aren't waiting that long for updates on work.
@@willtetreault3181some companies only keep up with payroll bi weekly. I work for a large company that’ll call you at the end of the pay period asking if you forgot to clock out.
😢😢😢
This demonstrates the difference between managers and leaders. The military taught me to above all else ALWAYS look out for my people.
Who is yo people?
No leaders when I worked there for over 10 yrs. Incompetence.
The fact that NO ONE walked over to her desk for 4 days is appauling.
Appalling more like amazing where can I get a job like that where nobody bothers you
@@lithium25693kinda funny and sad at the same time.
It was an office building for a bank. Chances are they don’t work weekends. The Monday is the question.
No family? No friends?
@@miketheyunggod2534there's a lot of people like this
I have to suspect that the Ramsey team is unaware just how bad work culture is generally at almost any place. People brag about how well the Ramsey team operates, how well Dave treats his staff, etc. etc, which leads me to assume that they all live in a bubble. Outside of their bubble people are significantly underpaid, overworked, and not seen as human.
Nah, it’s a borderline cult. Do as leader Dave says or you’re shunned. Ken confirms this in this episode, where he’s shocked it took longer than 3 minutes to figure out she had passed. This implies that when you’re an employee at Ramsey, someone is looking over your shoulder more frequently than once every 3 minutes. Screw that
Amen
He's a delusional boomer and a psyop.
"Work hard, work hard, work hard, isolate yourself, sell your soul, save money, work until you are too old to enjoy life, even when next day is never guaranteed"
Many do not brag about it. Many complain about them.
@@CruisingwithLocstar I haven't seen the complaints as much, but I wouldn't doubt it.
This story is truly heart-wrenching. It is a sad reality that as we age, we often find ourselves less checked on by co-workers, friends, and even family members. We must strive to improve as a society.
My brother-in-law passed away at his computer repair shop working on a computer late at night. When his business partner came in the next morning, he called out to him, was making small talk as he was going through the office taking care of things, and it took him a bit of time to realize that he was actually dead and felt horrible that he'd not realized it instantly, but he was just hunched over like he was working and hyper focused. :-(
This is so heart breaking
Tell me the work place TOXIC ASF without telling me the work place is TOXIC ASF
She was probably ignored to death because she was 60 . Ageism exists in the workplace , and unlike racism and sexism , it's tolerated and even accepted .
This is 100% true.
She wouldn't have been ignored if she was a SAHM with a husband and family
Work to live, don't live to work. Don't let work rule your life
The only thing corporate cares about is money.
Period.
What's really messed up is when they found her body they made employees stay in the building that day and they could still smell the body and all the chemicals they used to clean up,”some employees went home sick. The Union is demanding big changes.
My dad passed away in his office too. They found him a few hours later when he did show up to a meeting. He worked like a dog, over 30 years at same company. Worked weekends and never took a vacation. He was only a few years away from retirement.
😢 Wow, he sounds like he was a responsible man. 😢My condolences.
That’s heartbreaking 💔 lm sorry for your loss.
I’m sorry what happened to your dad. Would you let us know what company that was? It would help people not to work in a place like that
@cutehumor it was a union/government job in Seattle. Sorry for the distain, but they treated him well, it wasn't their fault. I don't wanna call them out.
I'm sorry. My dad died suddenly at home with the door of the master bedroom closed. We didn't find him for an hour or two, I'm guessing.
I think a few hours is reasonable if someone passes quietly.
People can't just quit their job if it pays well to go find a nice social job Ken. Also after working in a restaurant being abused by customers I was SO glad to have a desk job where I am on my own.
Nobody said quit your job today with nothing lined up.... you're free to look for another job while still employed... plus, how many years are you going to use that as an excuse?
"If you're not changing, you're choosing"
I work a very isolated job, and while my employer couldn't know within minutes or even hours a lot of times, they definitely won't take 3 days to check on me. There was once a miscommunication and I went to bed (I work nights) after checking in with a worker and I woke up with 17 missed calls from my employer because they were told nobody heard from me that morning and thought I was dead. They were definitely freaked out and I was almost woken up by police at my door to check on me. Outside of ensuring I'm alive and well, I'm left alone.
I am still asking this.......yes,
Where was the security guard.
Where was the cleaning crew.
Where was the leadership to ask Denise about not clocking out. Where was ANYONE at Wells Fargo that would just check in with employees and say good morning. Where were the cameras to monitor the hallways for safety. I personally believe this is 100% on Wells Fargo. WHERE ARE THE SAFETY MEASURES.
My guess would be two fat lazy security guards who only have to check on the perimeter doors due to a company "privacy policy" scared about people stealing stuff etc
I’m thinking about what if she had a stroke or heart attack or something similar where she could have survived if she had been found sooner. So sad 😢
“We want everyone back in the office to collaborate and innovate in person.” Shame on you Wells Fargo.
Please stop you dont know what you're talking about
This happens when people are regarded merely as a unit of production. This happens in offices where socialization and non-work communication is unacceptable. If you are talking to your buddy for a few minutes at work and a manager yells "get back to work" that's an environment that encourages isolation.
A lot like the environment at Ramsey. Especially if you aren’t talking about church or finance or happen to not be republican or god forbid lgbtq or living in sin
Bingo
So what you want is micromanagement? This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
I bet they didn't even send flowers to her at her funeral. We had a co-worker that passed away, they didn't even tell us until a month later
That’s disgusting
Such a heartbreaking and heart-troubling story.
This guy has never been alone.
If I remember this right some of the staff complained and requested a plumber to check on the "sewer smell" thinking it was a drain problem on the Monday.
I agree -- it was appalling. There were no workers or close family members to report her missing. This is the state of the world now.
Or even worse people just don’t care if someone is missing that is how cold the world is now.
I'll say it if no one else will--- Wells Fargo is an awful company. The way they treated us the week our daughter was dying is something i will never forget. We were maybe 60 days behind on our car payment (i believe for the first time, BTW--- which was a miracle with both us being out of work for the 2.5 years our daughter battled brain cancer) and i told them I'd call them after she passed and not even wait until the funeral was done. I just wanted every moment with her and couldn't worry about making a payment when my 3 year old was dying. They did not care. At all. Thankfully, we had an angel of a friend just straight up pay off our van so we didn't ever have to deal with WF again, but i will NEVER use WF by choice for any financial services.
🫂🫂🫂🫂 so sorry for your loss and for their awful behavior.
So sorry for your loss 🕊️
I am so sorry for your loss, but happy that you had a true friend to help you.
Autopay is the best way to go for car payments, house payments so you don't have to always think about it. Most generally if you call your creditors about a situation, they will work with you. Most people cannot afford to have their car repossessed or their house foreclosed on - even when life gets bad. I have lost immediate family members as well. It's horrible but you still have to pay your bills.
The part of the story you are missing is that she had no family or friends to notice she was missing.
Yes this is more shocking than having a job or set up where you aren’t face to face and it’s a bank so over the weekend no one is there.
I noticed that part when I saw the article as I scrolled by it online. People have died at home and weren't discovered until much later.
@@CruisingwithLocstar So housekeeping doesn't go around emptying the wastebaskets?
The other part is that she wasn't working, noone noticed her work wasn't getting done?
Maybe... it seems like she lived alone. But say she had a friend that she talks to once a week. What if she had just talked to that friend on Thursday? I think all of society needs to step up. Co-workers, yes, but neighbors, friends, extended family if she had any.
Why do they need remote workers to come back to the office if they are so disconnected from their employees.
Something needs to happen for people to stop taking what they have for granted. People are asking where this persons family and friends were? People take for granted having a husband or a wife, people take for granted having kids, people take for granted having friends. It’s not because some are weird or ugly or bad people. You can everything going for you and be a great person and not have those things.
The fact is is that having a husband or wife and kids at home has been so normalised and taken for granted that the people who don’t have those things and not always by choice are being forgotten about.
If I died at work, no one would notice me for probably months
If I died at home, work would think nothing of it except that I silently quit
Two years ago, one of my coworkers died on the break room table. Plenty more died over the weekends and holidays. This is what the govt wants. No social security paid. All we hear about is people living longer but never the percentage of people who are still employed at time of death.
😮😮It depends, I worked in a private office. If I died at my desk, my friends might think I am out with clients when I don’t go down to the lunchroom. Janitors only come in once a week. How many people live alone at home.
Yup
In many offices today. Here's how it works: you going to a virtually empty office because you're told to, you do your work, you have mostly virtual meetings, then you go home. This is why the situation happened ultimately. Teams are no longer being located like they used to be where they proximity effect.
Yes, this was a horrific story. Brings home the message about current workplace culture in the US
This same thing happened at a state government office building a year or so ago in my state. It took days for the body to be noticed in that case, too. Horrifying.
Poor woman! They must have found her by following the smell. Invisible is the word. No friends at work? No family looking for her?
Talk about a 'toxic' work environment... Bloaters are no joke.
@@TheyRiseBandwhat do you both suggest, that companies abolish the remote work policy and force everyone to attend team lunches, socialize, and attend team outings? Do you want managers to micromanage? So anytime I'm away from my laptop, they should immediately call my personal phone?
@@hector8491 Nope. Had she been remote, this would not have happened. I fully support 100% remote for jobs that it is applicable to.
@@hector8491at the very least, some sort of alert should have went off for security if the employees have to sign in/out by badge.
Had a 64-65 year old coworker die of a heart attack on the job. He collapsed in the break room in front of my boss. Cannot imagine no one noticing a dead person for 3+ days.
I dont show up at office for 2 hours since the reporting time and my colleagues start calling me as to where I am. Thats a rule we have in our office to know if your colleague is fine. If something isnt fine as per office rule, one of my colleague will get a one day additional paid leave to be with me and make sure everything is fine. Thanks to my employer to care for the employees so much.
From what I was able to find out, she has a sister and two brothers who live in Louisiana. It's not surprising that no one noticed her missing for a few days.
I have watched a lot of Ramsay videos but don't recall ever commenting on one. In 2016, while caring for my mom who had advanced Alzheimer's - that is, she was in final stages and I visited her daily - I had a contract at Wells in Charlotte. Work culture was terrible, overall. Though I had full remote access once the probationary period ended, my boss refused to let me work at home even two days a week so I could commute less and see my mom more easily. She passed away towards the end of the contract. When it ended, I was very glad to escape Wells Fargo.
WF has its issues. I'm glad I paid them off so their mail won't be coming to my house.
A lot of seniors living alone in their 60's die in their homes and nobody finds them either. Falling, health, suicide etc.
My adult son has mental illness. We haven’t heard from him in 5 months. I don’t know where he is. He disappears often like this. We went 2 years without knowing where he was. It’s horribly sad. But he doesn’t hold down any reg job, and we can’t force him to get help. He’s an adult. 😞
At least her Mgmt reported that she came into the office instead of working from home. That's really all they cared about
Very Sad. Corporate America does not give a crap about humans. Shame on her coworkers
This happened when I worked for the government years ago. Same thing…guy died at his desk on a Friday and they found him on a Monday. Very sad.
So now there's another story about a dead body found in a tanning bed at planet fitness. They were there for 4 days
Wow. Am glad I only got the cheap membership that doesn't have access to those amenities. If anyone drops on the gym floor, I am out.
That means they don't regularly clean their tanning beds every turn.GROSS!
Beef jerky
@@andrewgates8158😅
I can understand not finding her for a few hours. Management shouldn't be constantly checking up on people, so that could easily happen. But doesn't the office get cleaned over the weekend? And don't they do anything when someone doesn't report for work? I just don't understand how this is possible.
The article I read said she was in a cubicle. She wasn't even shut away in an office. It was a cubicle. A cubicle off in a corner somewhere, but still... Other people in the office say there was a foul odour, but they assumed it was a plumbing problem... It's absolutely crazy.
Call Centre jobs never check on if you don't show up. The cleaning dapartment also works a set of hours before they go home. 8 hours of work. it does not mean the whole office is cleaned.
Easily could have been a security control failure where the badging system either is not configured to send alerts that someone has been checked in for extended time or the system was faulty, or it worked properly but security guards did not investigate the issue thoroughly. In regards to the cleaning crew, it's likely they cleaned Thursday night, and with many companies having hybrid work policies, and in combination with Monday being a holiday, they would not be required to clean on Friday because it's a ghost town. Any other mysteries I can solve for you???
@hector8491 I wouldn't expect the security system to be tracking employees like that and never suggested that it would.
Office buildings are usually cleaned on a daily basis. Even if they reduced the cleaning schedule because the office was being used less, there should be cleaning at some point between Friday and the next Tuesday.
What holiday? There is no holiday on the 19th of August...
@@hector8491 Yes, what holiday in August was it?
@@thomasdalton1508 That's what I'M trying to figure out.
In 1975 , I was locked in a military mental ward and given medicine that made me feel really bad .
I told a psychiatrist that I couldn't stand it anymore. Obviously, no one taking "Haldal" liked it, so maybe that's why he ignored me.
I couldn't take it anymore. You couldn't imagine how awful that stuff was. I took every tablet of this stuff I could find and woke up 3 days later with an amazing hangover. I also found that no doctor and none of the 5 male nurses in that "lockup" of about 50 patients had noticed.
I tried to kill myself because I thought no one cared what was happening to me . When I regained consciousness, I knew it was true.
Corporations like Wells Fargo only care about the shareholder and the C-suite. Employees are a disposable means to an end -- even if that includes the end of the employee. HR likely had a replacement candidate on the phone within the hour they learned that this woman had died without management approval. Her estate likely received what remained of her paycheck after taxes, cleaning fees, and docking for being unproductive at her desk. The reprimand is in her email along with her performance improvement plan meeting date. Welcome to Wells Fargo.
What do you mean "without management approval"? Management shot her. That sounds like management approval to me.
This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
Often companies could care less , if you die, in a week or two you will be forgotten and soneone else will inhabit that desk or office.
*couldnt care less
You’re stating they actually care.
So what you're advocating for is micromanagement and companies forcing it's employees to go into the office and go out on team events? Yeah, no thanks. This was an accident. That's it.
@@hector8491right. If I die at work, the least of my worries would be how I wasn’t discovered by my coworkers, but the family part is sad. I try to keep to myself, sounds like she may have been the same way.
A smell was noticed and the woman who found her didnt want to identified because she wasn't meant to even be in the area she found the body in.
This is why going back into the office is a joke. Camaraderie is not a reason.
Many people would not be found for four MONTHS if not for going back to the office.
This happened at a company that I worked for back in 2000. The man died at his desk at the end of a conference call. His red light was lite at his desk, and we didn't interrupt him. This was on Friday, he always worked late each day. Security did find him Saturday morning when his wife couldn't find him.
I work remote and do not have to interact with coworkers daily. Manager is really hands off and I could go 2 weeks without an email (hardly calls me).
I've had micromanagers before as well in the office with daily and weekly status report to submit.
Sorry, I'd rather be left alone to let me do my work.
Exactly. People are quick to turn this accident around and abolish the remote policy all together. What's next, managers calling me every time my status shows I'm away for 5 minutes or forcing me to eat lunches and socialize with everyone? Smh.
Where i work, lots of hybrid. Its a skeleton crew on friday and monday, hardly anyone in the office. Luckily someone else on my team comes in on fridays when i go in, but honestly, no one would find us until Monday or Tuesday. Except my parents would hopefully figure it out because theyd get a call when i dont pick up my daughter from daycare
If this happened this week then I think it makes sense. Veterans day was on Monday and the banks were closed. I would bet a lot of the employees wanted to leave early on Friday to enjoy the long weekend.
That poor woman. I will pray for her, her family, and for that poor security guard who found her.
I work in IT in a warehouse of 4000 workers. On 2 separate saturdays that I work alone, there has been 2 major fires and the building needed to evacuate. I was never told of the evacuations, only saw people leave in a hurry and not notify me that the building is evacuating (fire outside, so no alarms going off but people being told to leave early). The building does not value me, and I have been working towards clearing up my debt and saving at least 6months, so I can quit and find a place that will value my life in an emergency.
WOW. I am Speechless. When did we stop actually Caring about others
Unfortunately society have not cared for other people for years.
1776
It’s been steadily increasing over the last 20 years where people have become more self centered and don’t care about others.
@@sharonrose50 It happened 228 years before that.
Very disturbing…. What the heck, why didn’t her family and friends realize she was missing…….
I know in a couple of decades, this could be me. I am the youngest in my family of origin, and my husband is a bit older than I am. We don’t have kids, nieces, or nephews, so I know this could be me at work or home.
I also work for a bank. I recall spending countless hours, stressing to meet deadlines that always seem to move, but we're always "important". I heard of this story and promised myself that I will not end up like this. These corporations don't give a FK about us. We're a number on a balance sheet, regardless of what we do for the company
It was over a holiday weekend. Nobody was in the office on Monday because of that.
No federal holidays in August. I work in banking.
@@CountChronicle It was not August. She was found on Tuesday September 3.
I am not hidden, but i know the guards are not doing their rounds like they should. I have often said this to my company.
Sorry about the poor lady. But! Their security sucks. You have a 9-5 worker clock in but not out for 4 days? That system should tell them who is there, where they should be and whether they should even be there at that time.
Honestly, with the prevalence of remote work, it doesn't surprise me that nobody was around the office to find her. Four years after Covid there are still many offices that sit virtually unused. The sad part is that she apparently had no family, friends, or community whatsoever that noticed she was missing for that long.
I work with a remote team, everyone chats and video calls everyone constantly. You will be missed if you do not respond.
NEXT MAN UP! - Wells Fargo
Not everyone is extroverted with a bunch of friends, let alone work friends. Not everyone has family. Not everyone clocks in/out. I’m sure this was not a typical WF banking branch but an executive office. Many offices now barely have workers; I counted 2 on my floor that is huge and can accommodate hundreds; and I only saw them in passing in the halls; the office was nearly empty on a Thursday. This lady had a very sad story. And who knows if she would’ve been found at all if she was WFH. So sad.
Poor woman.
This does not shock me at all.
I just found out that the union removed staff phone numbers and called it harassment if staff is a no call no show and someone tries to call you to find out if you are okay or not coming in. 😅
This story is classic American capitalism. This is what America is all about. You are nothing more than a number on a spreadsheet and you'll be discarded as easily as pressing the delete key.
All I want to know is, did she make it to the end of the day because if she didn't Wells Fargo would deduct those hours from her final paycheck!
That’s how America is idk why people think so highly of us. This place is crap and hope it falls. Cmon Trump make this country fall!
@@HOLDXSTEELkeep crying you extremist liberal.
@@hector8491 ok I will, WAHHHH WAHHHHHHH
If this is an Example of American Capitalism, then how exactly does American Socialism or Communism stop this from happening? Either way the lady still dies at her desk.
@ good some need to die in order to advance!
Most employees are invisible. They probably noticed something is wrong after she didn’t clock in for several days. Most employers check in only when they are trying to figure out why the WORK isn’t getting done. It’s been this way since I started my work life at 16 years old and now I’m 55 years old. I just wonder if she had family that had missed her but it sounds like she didn’t because my husband and son would notice I didn’t make it home on day one.
Maybe she was positioned like she was taking a nap with jher down on on her desk, so janitors didn't want to disturb and maybe her ofc/,cubical was off in a corner or something but you would think her supervisors would check her.
I work close to this WF, I was so disappointed in humanity with this one. Return to work mandates and unassigned hotel style cubes feed this disconnectedness. Corporate does not care about people and people wonder why we fight for work from home? At least if she was home she wouldn’t have died in a cube farm.
This was an accident. Simple as that. After covid happened, many comapnies went to all remote or hybrid policy. What are your solutions to this problem? Do you want companies to force you to come into the office everyday - abolish remote policy? Do you want managers to micromanage their employees? Do you want companies to force us to go out and get lunch together and socialize? Any time i dont respond to an email within a day or if my status on the corporate messaging app shows 'away', the manager should start blowing up our phones? If you've worked in the corporate world, you'd understand that responses to an email can take some time. It's not uncommon to get responses days later. If anything, this was just a failure in the badging system or security guards job duties to identify and investigate any instances where someone is badged in for more than a day.
My husband's works for a company that makes paint for our roads. A man died a couple months ago and a machine crushed him. My husband's was a few feet away. They made everyone continue work the bext day like a man didn't just die. Of course OSHA got involved but the company had no real remorse for that man that died with a family and wife dying of cancer. Jobs dont care about us and this so sad she had nobody notice she never left work so sad bless her and her family
That’s awful 😢
Dave admires her dedication I'm sure lol. Never retire right? Buy BTC everyone!!!
Well I think that the fact that she wasn't found for such a long amount of time shows us that we've become to the point where we don't interact face-to-face with each other I mean real like live face to face that we don't understand that you know there's a balance their
I was just saying this to other co-workers, someone has to care. People are so focused on themselves, and their devices, no one sees the Human Side of things anymore.
That story was so disturbing to me when i read it. It tells me more about the co-workers and the management than it told me about her. She probably died of a heartbreak. It seems that nobody really cared about her.
And how much do you wanna bet Wells cleaned that desk, got rid of her stuff and sat someone else there the next week?
There is a gap in the market for security officers specialized in "checking employees to see if they are still alive".
Some people’s jobs keep them so stressed and aggravated, they want to be left alone. Bosses don’t care that people are overburdened and exhausted. They look good for running the operation with fewer staff. Somehow this happens even in government jobs. A manager in a government department should not have the opportunity to benefit by wearing people out.
The funniest part of this is that they went all Monday and nobody noticed it... I guess they had a case of the Mondays
@zachwarren280 - It DOES sound like Monday would have been a regular workday in August. Must have been a bit creepy for those who were there on Monday working close to where she was but didn't know until Tuesday.
Ever since covid, most people at the building I work at, work from home. Recently the company decided to consolidate the few that still come in. The 3rd floor is empty now, they all work from the 2nd floor.
Why does the title say "their desk" when the subtitle clearly says "she" and "her."
This is employment now. Complete dehumanization is the norm, not the exception.
oh yep. She was found because a manager sent an email she didn't respond to and then that Mgr sent someone to her cube to ask why she didn't answer the email. Oh, and you missed that others smelled a foul odor and reported it to Mgmt to.
Also, why didn’t any cleaning folks find her and report it.
Not all office get cleaned everyday. I clean for a real estate office and an insurance office and I only go in once a week to clean them. It’s just a little trash, dusting and mopping of floors. It’s not needed everyday.
@ I get smaller offices but Wells Fargo isn’t small. I also work for a large company and there is some sort of cleaning that happens every day. 4 days seems like a lot.
In my office most folks elect for their Work from home days to be Fridays and/or Mondays. So like most commenters here, I can see how this could happen.
Plus banks are closed most of the weekend. If it was a holiday weekend, I could see it.
Poor lady! What a precious soul. We need to look at why, autopsies of all these sudden deaths! She is not the only one.
I used to work a job where I was the inventory specialist person for a grocery retailer, and I needed to do my job when there wasn't any product moving around the freezer warehouse and very few to no one in the building. It took a while for the company to get me a two way radio to call into asset protection so I could alert them each half hour I was OK. If they didn't hear from me, they would send someone in the freezer to look for me. It was cold enough that if I broke my leg in the freezer and couldn't walk, I could die from hypothermia after a few hours if no one noticed I was in there.
The fact that your husband, your children, your family 😮 no friends didn't care or look for you ?
This is the actual tragedy and shocker.
Not that someone has a job that doesn’t require face to face and it’s a bank and probably closed over the weekend.
Its been some time since I read a news article on this but I think she had no husband and lived alone. My family does not call me daily and I suspect her family does not either.
A large portion of 60 year old women have left their husbands. How many 30-somethings call the police if they don't really to their parents every day?
Isolation is a deadly situation especially if your family disowns you.
Sounds like my old job. It had a get in the cagey wagey and be quiet. I could totally see a dead body going unnoticed there for days too. Especially on a 3 day weekend in particular.
These days in the real world you can go 1day to 1 week without response to email or text and nobody answers the phone. I deal with this all the time from customers and venders. Don't get me started on fellow employees they can be even worse.
Late to the game, that’s the definition of Ramsey Solutions
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It's the definition of America.