Taken over by AirTran, these aircraft served them until that company was merged into Southwest. The MD-95s are flying for Delta. McDonnell took over Boeing and kept the name.
@@erik_griswold More like Valujet bought AirTran but went under the AirTrain name to hide from flight 592. I do feel bad for Valujet because, while they may have had questionable maintenance practices, the crash was caused by SabreTech who only tried to shield itself from liability.
10:35 - we don't spend money on anything unless it relates to the safety, reliability or comfort for our customer That is an absolutely chilling statement given the fact that the airline at the time had the oldest fleet in the US and was probably transporting dangerous cargo before that infamous crash in Miami.
You think their logo was cute? How about their callsign, "CRITTER"? Too bad about that crash in Florida though. The accident never should have happened.
Funny thing is the MD-80/90/95 lineage lives on in the unlicensed copy that is the ARJ-21 (china jointly manufactured MD-80s with Mcdonnell Douglas back in the 80s/90s then never returned the tooling when MD merged with boeing)
Mitchell C way to change the subject comrade. You said ban Aircraft and nothing about banning cars until your ban aircraft statement was shown to be junk.
Mitchell C how am I putting an end to the conversation? You said you wanted to ban aircraft but then changed it to cars as well... you are the one who trying to end to conversation about aircraft being so bad. And with a statement about banning planes it shows you don’t understand math, and if you don’t understand simple math how can you understand a complex thing like climate change?
Mitchell C also Cuba and China have cars and they are communist. Russia, Poland, Czech Republic and Yugoslavia were communist and they had cars and airplanes.
Mitchell C but smart people understand math and will not try to change the subject when their hypothesis is shown to have issues. Did you not mention cars in your first statement because you didn’t realize they were that bad or did you fail to mention it because it would be a step to far? You know ban one thing at a time..
Just found out that today is the 20th anniversary of Flight 592 crash. May them rest in peace, and let's hope that airline companies will never, ever again compromise with safety just for some profit.
McDonnell Douglas made damn good airplanes. Some bad luck w/ DC-10's made them look bad for a while but the reality is that other than the cargo door issues, their other woes were with the GE CF-6 engines. Faults in manufacturing and maintenance could've just as easily happened to A300, A310, 747, and 767 to name a few... all had CF-6 engines... but the problems ALL happened to DC-10's. Subsequently, improvements were made to all of the aforementioned aircraft models as well. Also, hydraulic fuses were added to ALL commercial aircraft (including Air Force One) after the CF-6 fandisk on UA232 disabled all flight controls. The whole DC-9/MD80/90 series had the lowest accident injury per takeoff in the industry until surpassed by the 777 years later. Poor maintenance practices combined with very high hours on very old airframe have contributed the majority of problems over time. And Boeing knew they had a winner as they continued production of the MD-95 as the 717 after the merger even though it was competing with its own 737. I've always loved the fact that the MD circle/swoop & bird was incorporated into the Boeing logo going forward. This was SOOO close. What a shame Sabretech had to f*** up and load the old oxy canisters into ValuJet 592's cargo hold! R.I.P. and God Bless to the victims!
At about the same time this video was being made, an engine on one of their DC-9s burst in Atlanta during takeoff due to faulty maintenance, ValuJet was being banned from carrying U.S. military personnel and receiving multiple FAA warnings and threats of grounding over safety concerns. The next year there was the horrible flight 592 crash in the Everglades that was caused by improperly secured hazardous materials in the cargo hold, which pulled a string of further cost- and corner-cutting irregularities. ValuJet was grounded for months, never recovered and eventually was absorbed by AirTran, later by Southwest. So much for an "American success story"... As for the MD-95, it became the Boeing 717 when McDonnell-Douglas was acquired two years later, did not sell very well and was retired from production much earlier than anticipated. MD's practice of face-lifting old models to avoid new development costs proved fatal - its last really original project (as opposed to modified old models) was the DC-10 in the early 1970s.
+Goytá F. Villela Jr. Interestingly, the 717 is now in high demand. Delta is buying them up wherever they can, as no other aircraft quite fits their needs. But after Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas, they didn't want the MD-95 competing with the 737-600 and 700.
+Jonathan Kleinow Delta has also sunk a ton of money refurbishing their 757s as well as that is another aircraft in high demand. However, Boeing, also wanting to avoid new development keeps insisting that there isn't a strong enough business case to even face-lift these models. Everything must be shoe-horned into the one size fits all 737 solution. It's not a matter of if but when Boeing will finally realize that it needs to start innovating again.
+ZYC, it is said that when Boeing bought MD, it looked as if it were the other way around, because MD execs took over the management. MD was notoriously averse to risk and new development. That was MD's undoing, but it seems they didn't learn. The 787 was extremely innovative (maybe too much), but it was a fierce battle in Boeing's board to let it out instead of some sort of face-lifted "767-500" or something like that. As for the 757, so far it has been impossible to replace, as there was no real competitor - Boeing's own 737-900 and the Airbus A321 had the approximate dimensions but not the range or the performance. But now Airbus has announced a new A321LR (for "long range") and that will finally be pretty close to being a 757 replacement. Considering how aggressive Airbus' marketing has been in recent years, Boeing had better watch out and pay attention.
Nowadays we all miss both ValuJet and McDonnell Douglas. This shows what is going wrong in the industry and it shows how dangerous globalism is. Passengers are stuffed into tiny Embraer 135s or Canadair CRJs and I admire how American passengers put up with that. I would miss those days when Northwest Airlines flew with DC-9s that offered plenty of space for short hop domestic flights. Obviously, most people have forgotten those days. I am only 43 but I remember the good old days. I recommend that the airlines course-correct and ask Boeing to bring back a revised Boeing 717 and 757. It was a serious business mistake to end those productions. We all know that a revised 757 would be the better replacement for the 737. A revised 757 is the death knell for the A320.
6:16. If only SAS had also made the right decision and ordered the MD-95... I still can’t believe they abandoned their Douglas loyalty and went with the 737-600 lemon.
Yeah the 737-600 turned out to not be very economical, like the comparable Airbus A318. The economics with the same engine but a smaller frame compared to the -700 and beyond didn't make sense.
Sadly Valujet was held responsible for mislabeled Cargo rather then a faulty aircraft or crew. But Pan Am collapses after flight 103 and TWA after flight 800
What might have been? It was a reality! I was there when we took delivery of the first B-717-200 in ATL, was there when Boeing flew in for an employee preview and was at a fabulous party in MCO when we took delivery of the 50th B-717 :)
I wouldn't have shipped my garbage on that airline. The crash in the Everglades was terrible. The plane needed parts from a museum-even new planes can't trump sloppy maintenance
Either the airplane can succeed without begging on it's own merit or it cannot. it was the sales teams job to make the customer aware of all the benefits unique to the type - that was easy as the airplane was so good it sold itself until Boeing decided to kill it. Nearly 100 orders were converted to 737-600.
you do know that the 717 is LITERALLY a modified version of the md-95 made after MD was bought out by boeing. You just made yourself sound like an idiot.
Aged like milk. Feynman's quote comes to mind: "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled."
people want to go back in time to do stupid things but I just wanna go back to like 1994/1995 and make sure Boeing gets a no-sale out of SAS and MDC got the sale for the MD-95
I Hate Hate Hate what happened to ValuJet Airlines i thought they were one of the koolest airlines in the U.S at that time,wish they were still active 💙💙💙🤍🤍🤍🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
A bittersweet look back 21 years at two companies that no longer exists.
"Jetliner for the Airline of the 21st Century" The irony of that statement...both McDonnell Douglas and ValuJet ceased operations in 1997.
Taken over by AirTran, these aircraft served them until that company was merged into Southwest. The MD-95s are flying for Delta. McDonnell took over Boeing and kept the name.
@@erik_griswold More like Valujet bought AirTran but went under the AirTrain name to hide from flight 592. I do feel bad for Valujet because, while they may have had questionable maintenance practices, the crash was caused by SabreTech who only tried to shield itself from liability.
@calixone3219 That was the name the new Boeing gave it. It was launched as the MD-95 and is really the DC-9-95
10:35 - we don't spend money on anything unless it relates to the safety, reliability or comfort for our customer
That is an absolutely chilling statement given the fact that the airline at the time had the oldest fleet in the US and was probably transporting dangerous cargo before that infamous crash in Miami.
Well, they didnt lie, the MD95 was and still is a success. One of its kind.
my grandfather worked at McDonnell-Douglas until around 2000 [it was boeing at that time] anyways i found an original unsealed vhs tape of this video
valujet's logo was so cute tho
Yeah so that was the UWU OWO rawr XD era of the flight industry right?
You think their logo was cute? How about their callsign, "CRITTER"? Too bad about that crash in Florida though. The accident never should have happened.
Ikr they should have implemented fuselage suppression systems.
@WPLU572 Trunked Radio the relevance is?
It was cute... but there was loads of shady shit going on within the company
Funny thing is the MD-80/90/95 lineage lives on in the unlicensed copy that is the ARJ-21 (china jointly manufactured MD-80s with Mcdonnell Douglas back in the 80s/90s then never returned the tooling when MD merged with boeing)
Yet they claim you are a damned western LIAR!
the 99 cent store of Airlines
AirTran, the former Valujet was sold for 3.4 billion dollars. Quite a bit more than .99 cents
@@N464AT I don't think that's even close to what he meant by that comment
Value Jet aka Air Tran MD 95 aka Boeing 717
I planned the cargo bay for the MD-95. Of course had help from Ron Wert and others.
Very interesting. Would love to see the MD 95 back. Certainly better than those extremely narrow Embraers and Canadair tubes.
Mitchell C before you ban planes every ones car better be getting 80 + mpg or else we will be burning more fuel than the planes.
Mitchell C way to change the subject comrade. You said ban Aircraft and nothing about banning cars until your ban aircraft statement was shown to be junk.
Mitchell C how am I putting an end to the conversation? You said you wanted to ban aircraft but then changed it to cars as well... you are the one who trying to end to conversation about aircraft being so bad. And with a statement about banning planes it shows you don’t understand math, and if you don’t understand simple math how can you understand a complex thing like climate change?
Mitchell C also Cuba and China have cars and they are communist. Russia, Poland, Czech Republic and Yugoslavia were communist and they had cars and airplanes.
Mitchell C but smart people understand math and will not try to change the subject when their hypothesis is shown to have issues. Did you not mention cars in your first statement because you didn’t realize they were that bad or did you fail to mention it because it would be a step to far? You know ban one thing at a time..
Good video! I miss the 1990s!
Just found out that today is the 20th anniversary of Flight 592 crash. May them rest in peace, and let's hope that airline companies will never, ever again compromise with safety just for some profit.
Risanda Adhi Pratama unfortunately Allegiant Air is doing just that
MTLTV1765 YES Allegiant air’s CEO is the same CEO from Valujet! Go figure!
McDonnell Douglas made damn good airplanes. Some bad luck w/ DC-10's made them look bad for a while but the reality is that other than the cargo door issues, their other woes were with the GE CF-6 engines. Faults in manufacturing and maintenance could've just as easily happened to A300, A310, 747, and 767 to name a few... all had CF-6 engines... but the problems ALL happened to DC-10's. Subsequently, improvements were made to all of the aforementioned aircraft models as well. Also, hydraulic fuses were added to ALL commercial aircraft (including Air Force One) after the CF-6 fandisk on UA232 disabled all flight controls. The whole DC-9/MD80/90 series had the lowest accident injury per takeoff in the industry until surpassed by the 777 years later. Poor maintenance practices combined with very high hours on very old airframe have contributed the majority of problems over time. And Boeing knew they had a winner as they continued production of the MD-95 as the 717 after the merger even though it was competing with its own 737. I've always loved the fact that the MD circle/swoop & bird was incorporated into the Boeing logo going forward. This was SOOO close. What a shame Sabretech had to f*** up and load the old oxy canisters into ValuJet 592's cargo hold! R.I.P. and God Bless to the victims!
Used to work on the C-17 for about 8 years. In 87, worked on the ramp as a planner.
At about the same time this video was being made, an engine on one of their DC-9s burst in Atlanta during takeoff due to faulty maintenance, ValuJet was being banned from carrying U.S. military personnel and receiving multiple FAA warnings and threats of grounding over safety concerns. The next year there was the horrible flight 592 crash in the Everglades that was caused by improperly secured hazardous materials in the cargo hold, which pulled a string of further cost- and corner-cutting irregularities. ValuJet was grounded for months, never recovered and eventually was absorbed by AirTran, later by Southwest. So much for an "American success story"... As for the MD-95, it became the Boeing 717 when McDonnell-Douglas was acquired two years later, did not sell very well and was retired from production much earlier than anticipated. MD's practice of face-lifting old models to avoid new development costs proved fatal - its last really original project (as opposed to modified old models) was the DC-10 in the early 1970s.
+Goytá F. Villela Jr. Interestingly, the 717 is now in high demand. Delta is buying them up wherever they can, as no other aircraft quite fits their needs. But after Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas, they didn't want the MD-95 competing with the 737-600 and 700.
+Jonathan Kleinow Delta has also sunk a ton of money refurbishing their 757s as well as that is another aircraft in high demand. However, Boeing, also wanting to avoid new development keeps insisting that there isn't a strong enough business case to even face-lift these models. Everything must be shoe-horned into the one size fits all 737 solution. It's not a matter of if but when Boeing will finally realize that it needs to start innovating again.
+ZYC, it is said that when Boeing bought MD, it looked as if it were the other way around, because MD execs took over the management. MD was notoriously averse to risk and new development. That was MD's undoing, but it seems they didn't learn. The 787 was extremely innovative (maybe too much), but it was a fierce battle in Boeing's board to let it out instead of some sort of face-lifted "767-500" or something like that.
As for the 757, so far it has been impossible to replace, as there was no real competitor - Boeing's own 737-900 and the Airbus A321 had the approximate dimensions but not the range or the performance. But now Airbus has announced a new A321LR (for "long range") and that will finally be pretty close to being a 757 replacement. Considering how aggressive Airbus' marketing has been in recent years, Boeing had better watch out and pay attention.
Absolutely they should. Great comment and thanks for the reply.
Amazing story when you link all of the events that lead to MD's demise.
Those MD-95/717s still fly, as they are now operated by Delta Air Lines.
Mexicana Click ceased operations in 2010. Delta, Volotea, Qantas Link & Hawaiian Airlines are the largest operators.
And yet, they’ll be replace by the A220/C-Series later on.
Valujet Was Acquired By AirTran in 1997. AirTran was later acquired by Southwest in 2014
Nowadays we all miss both ValuJet and McDonnell Douglas. This shows what is going wrong in the industry and it shows how dangerous globalism is. Passengers are stuffed into tiny Embraer 135s or Canadair CRJs and I admire how American passengers put up with that. I would miss those days when Northwest Airlines flew with DC-9s that offered plenty of space for short hop domestic flights. Obviously, most people have forgotten those days. I am only 43 but I remember the good old days. I recommend that the airlines course-correct and ask Boeing to bring back a revised Boeing 717 and 757. It was a serious business mistake to end those productions. We all know that a revised 757 would be the better replacement for the 737. A revised 757 is the death knell for the A320.
6:16. If only SAS had also made the right decision and ordered the MD-95... I still can’t believe they abandoned their Douglas loyalty and went with the 737-600 lemon.
Boeing probably made them damn near free.
Yeah the 737-600 turned out to not be very economical, like the comparable Airbus A318. The economics with the same engine but a smaller frame compared to the -700 and beyond didn't make sense.
They actually flew it under Blue1 in 2010-15.
They only flew rear engine planes, yet their logo was a plane with wing mounted engines.
McDonnell Douglas was a great company. What amazing people.
I worked at Valujet in MIA in 1995. Not a good situation with poor training.
MD Rep: Just make sure you don't carry old oxygen tanks and tires in your cargo hold...
Sadly Valujet was held responsible for mislabeled Cargo rather then a faulty aircraft or crew. But Pan Am collapses after flight 103 and TWA after flight 800
The DC 9 - 32 was the first Jet I flew in! And my first Atlantic-crossing was in a DC 10. Well - that´s all history now...
This was the airliner before it was re-named the Boeing 717!
What might have been? It was a reality! I was there when we took delivery of the first B-717-200 in ATL, was there when Boeing flew in for an employee preview and was at a fabulous party in MCO when we took delivery of the 50th B-717 :)
I wouldn't have shipped my garbage on that airline. The crash in the Everglades was terrible. The plane needed parts from a museum-even new planes can't trump sloppy maintenance
Boeing wanted the 737-600 to succeed over the MD-95 that's why they killed the MD-90 and the MD-95 another a huge mistake by Boeing
Yup and even with Boeing killing off the MD-95 early it still was a better success than the flop that is the 737-600.
They were willing to keep it in production as long as it sold.
thanks for this
Interestingly, Connie Terwilleger is still working in voiceover talent.
voiceover-talent.com/
I love how everyone says “McDonell Douglas doesn’t exist anymore”.. even though Boeing’s Logo has the McDonell Douglas crest thingy..
Before The death of McDonnell Douglas 😟😢
The MD-95 more like now a Boeing 717.
Either the airplane can succeed without begging on it's own merit or it cannot. it was the sales teams job to make the customer aware of all the benefits unique to the type - that was easy as the airplane was so good it sold itself until Boeing decided to kill it. Nearly 100 orders were converted to 737-600.
md-95 is boeing 717
ThisIsIndraztaa - The Lady Rocker Fans wow i'm shocked 😒
you do know that the 717 is LITERALLY a modified version of the md-95 made after MD was bought out by boeing. You just made yourself sound like an idiot.
Well it’s not the md-95 anymore it’s Boeing 717
Oh, if only McDonnell Douglas knew what shit company ValuJet was...
Aged like milk. Feynman's quote comes to mind:
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled."
people want to go back in time to do stupid things but I just wanna go back to like 1994/1995 and make sure Boeing gets a no-sale out of SAS and MDC got the sale for the MD-95
Why is she wearing a shirt 3 sizes too big?
It was the fashion at the time.
It's her "long tee"!...
And FUPA pants.
10:58 That swearing
ValuJet was acquired by AirTran. AirTran was Acquired by Southwest. 2030... Southwest was acquired by...
MD85/B717
Of course, the end wasn't far off for both McDonnell Douglas and ValueJet …
Yeah as cheap as driving a car then you die lol sad what happened value jet
"an american success story" yeah...right
Don't move empty air containers, fyi from the future*
Are you referring to flight 592?
flight 592
So Valujet was like the OwO UwU Rawr XD phase of the Flight industry?
Scary aircraft any from McDonnell Douglas...along with the DC-10. (Death Cruiser)
Delta airlines took them all...
Valuejet... hahahahahhahaa
AaronShenghao Part of Southwest now...
Scabjet
Safety....Reliability? it would be hilarious, if it wasnt so TRAGIC!!!! Good ridance ValuJet/AirTran!!!!!
It was only ValuJet that was risky, not AirTran.
AirTran flew for 15 years after the Valujet merger and operated with a outstanding safety record.
*Spotlight! Moonlight* //XxxTencionxxX plays//
Douglas got burned and Valu Jet went with the Boeing 717 instead.
DowntownCanon the 717 is made by Douglas
Huh?? ValuJet burned themselves and the MD-95 was simply rebadged the B717 after MDD acquisition by Boeing.
ValueJet was taken over by AirTran, have since merged with Southwest. The MD-95 *is* the Boeing 717.
ValueJet bought AirTran and re-branded under AirTran
I Hate Hate Hate what happened to ValuJet Airlines i thought they were one of the koolest airlines in the U.S at that time,wish they were still active 💙💙💙🤍🤍🤍🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻