Windows 98 - 86Box vs PCem v12
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2017
- Windows 98 (86Box) :
Machine: Tyan Titan-Pro AT
CPU: Intel Pentium Pro 150 MHz
RAM: 256 MB
Video Card: Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM (S3 Trio64) + Voodoo 2 8 MB
Windows 98 (PCem v12) :
Machine: Award 430VX PCI
CPU: Intel Pentium 150 MHz
RAM: 256 MB
Video Card: S3 ViRGE/DX 4 MB
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Windows 98 (86Box) :
Maszyna: Tyan Titan-Pro AT
Procesor: Intel Pentium Pro 150 MHz
RAM: 256 MB
Grafika: Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM (S3 Trio64) + Voodoo 2 8 MB
Windows 98 (PCem v12) :
Maszyna: Award 430VX PCI
Procesor: Intel Pentium 150 MHz
RAM: 256 MB
Karta Graficzna: S3 ViRGE/DX 4 MB 
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The author of PCem did not want to have a pause key and replaced it with a NumLock key. Does anyone have a patch that will return the pause key?
Does it run Carmageddon smoothly? And if so, does it use less CPU than Dosbox? Dosbox SVN with Glide patch is able to run the game fast but makes your CPU fry with high load/temperature.
It Depends on your CPU most likely, because on my PC Pentium 150 MHz on PCem/86Box works well, games (Especially 3DFX Games) are working well.
Unfortunately, PCem is a resource hog. But WAY more stable than Dosbox for running windows.
@@stormykeep9213 that's because PCem totally emulates a PC - Chipset, Motherboard and a Separate CPU, without Hardware acceleration of any kind.
Currently, what is the most accurate, speed is not an issue since I will be getting an Apple Silicon processor, which is very fast in 2024, QEMU, MAME, 86box, or PCEm
Windows 98 SE Never complete installation under 86box ! always hangs at the 3rd restart of installation i tried
optimized and regular version , Windows 98 SE Retail Full and Windows 98 SE OEM Full , always stop @ the 3rd restart of installation !
cos u got wrong machine type lol
Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG:
BIOS-U (90312)?
Why is PCem faster than 86box, i have both PCem V16 and 86Box 2.10, 86Box lags and stutters when PCem runs smooth and has a few hiccups, both are Shuttle HOT-557 (was Award 430VX PCI), Pentium 75, 16 MB RAM, Phoenix S3 Trio64, 8GB HDD, Multiboot (DOS/WFW 3.11, Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0). the main PC Specs are AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0 GHz Quad Core CPU, 6 GB DDR2-800 RAM (2gb and 4gb sticks), Gigabyte GTX 660 Graphics Card, Windows 7
Probably it depends on your hardware, because I have i5 (Sixth Gen), SSD as OS Partition, 8 GB of RAM, and GTX 960 (4 GB) And it PCem seems to work faster on my side.
I have a Athlon II X4 640, 4 GB DDR2 RAM, GTS 450, Windows 7. PCem is quicker than 86box, 86Box runs at 50% to 60% speed when PCem runs at a solid 100%, sometimes drops to 90%.
I know this is a old video but would a core i5 2500 non k processor play well with either of these?
Now I think the newest PCem Version would be better, but Also Probably running something lower than a Pentium 150 MHz would be better, because running 300 MHz on a Sixth Gen i5 is definitely slow. 150 MHz is fine for that CPU.
How to download and setup PCem-X?
Where did you get the Pentium Pro ROM from?
I found once the Pack of ROMs on the internet, but I cannot tell you where I took it because I don't remember anymore.
@@Super123456789Kuba Damn, that sucks. If you do somehow find it again, tell me
@@Super123456789Kuba Yeah right. You probably found them on torrent sites like TPB or Demonoid. Nie ładnie jest kłamać :P
Kiedy będzie 86Box v2 vs PCem v13(.1)?
Nie wiem, lecz myślę czy nie zrobić bardziej PCem v11 vs PCem v12 vs PCem v13(.1)
@Szady Cbr Have you looked at 86Box recently? I actually removed the Riva TNT emulation because its developer was kicked out from the team for bad behavior (and was incapable of finishing it anyway), and 430TX is not there because I'd need ACPI and USB emulation first to make it proper. 86Box's strengths are others - several bug fixes (including in CPU emulation) PCem doesn't have, and now much better 808x CPU emulation - 8088mph now works fine (and will work even better on the next build when I commit again).
After 2 years , is the comparison still viable ?
Maybe, if you ignore newer versions of PCem...
Which settings allow the most robust hardware emulation?
Which rom should I use for best experience?
Which version of PCem would you recommend me?
I don't know what Kuba thinks, but I recommend you PCem v17.
I can confirm that. V17 is a lovely version, with a possibility to even emulate K6-III now.
Just yesterday I tested PCem v17 vs. 86Box 3.4.1 with Pentium II 266 MHz on GA-686BX, SB 128 and Voodoo3 3000.
My host is i7-8700.
86Box dropped the emulation speed to 47-55%, and was able to work on 100% with only 100 MHz processor. PCem has no problems with emulation of 233 MHz processor at full speed, some sound garbling occures with 266 MHz, but still playable.
PCem v17 has some sprite glitches with Voodoo2 (3DMark 2000 on Win98), v16 should be used instead.
I have exactly the same issue. I have no problem emulating a P2 350Mhz on PCem. On Box86 I don't even get near that.
Which Cpu are you using to emulate it?
Intel Core i5.
@@Super123456789Kuba But which gen? There's a huge difference between a 1st gen i5 vs 8th gen i5.
@@gt362gamer 6th Gen.
also an AMD Ryzen 5 or 7 is good for PCem as well.
@@pentiummmx2294 I do it on my Ry3 3250u 2c4t, it runs fine aswell except for Slot 1 machines.
where can i get the .bin files for pcem?
Not is the same test. pcem nit played any sound.
Why is the sound so laggy?
I have no idea.
the computer can't handle emulating the 150mhz pentium and has slowdown
It's crazy how it can handle Quake but can't handle the 2D operating system xDDDD
@@FeelingShred Apparently it has something to do with how Windows operates, even while idle. I think I heard 95 is better for that.
When I play old games from the 95/98 era, I noticed one of my cores would max out, even with the game paused. Nowadays I play old games through DxWnd and enable the CPU limit function, it works.
When 86Box Config Manager comes out...
Now it's out. A newer video should be made, comparing latest 86Box on Jenkins to PCem v14. :p
@@OBrasilo Which is better ?
Aha
Jest już pcem13
Wiem,ale i tak planowałem zrobić ten filmik.
Ok
with the brain-dead IDE Setup (Disk as Primary Slave without Master) this Comparison is NOT OK
I don't care. 86Box V2's IDE setup is brain-dead to begin with. This garbage didn't see my HDD on Primary Master. CD was also annoying to work with. Honestly PCem V17 did resolve this situation better. (And that even took years since this video!) So not my fault. Otherwise I could not have 98 on 86Box to at all. Maybe the newer version of 86Box is better at that. But I'm tired of emulation at this point. Especially on a Host I'm stuck with.