@@rain8767 Would these not be surplus LS-26's, meaning the possibilities of grimey and not so well taken care of examples having made it in the cut, and therefor filling the Elbownian standards of quality?
"Why just fire the Bullet at the enemy? Here at Aperture Science's Finnish Subsidiary, we've developed a system to also fire the case at the enemy. That's at least 20% more bullet, per bullet!"
Wouldn't just the holes be more ominuous? And you'd obviously put them up BEHIND your ambush, not where the Russkis could find it... ;) but yeah, the idea has merit.
Yeah, and then a Soviet flamethrower tank OT-34 drives out and burns to hell a machine-gun crew, half of the Mannerheim line and several finnish villages.
Imagine a unit relocating, and some poor supply private with a screwdriver is yelling, "hey guys, wait!" while he's trying to get the thing off the tree.
My grandpa was an LS gunner in the Winter War, he saw action in fact pretty close to the battle fields that Talvisota the movie (and novel) is depicting. He never mentioned anything special about the gun so I suppose it was just a tool for him, did its job. He did tell one story related to LS gunnery though: one time they had a particularly tough day, the red army just kept coming and coming. So he had to blast away with his LS all through the day. It wasn’t until in the afternoon, when the action cooled down, that he realised he hadn’t had his mittens on, in around 20 degrees below zero. He had just kept going on his addrenaline fumes, didn’t have time to pay attention.
Isoisä kantoi myös Lahti- Salorantaa jatkosodan hyökkäysvaiheessa. Sai Emman tilalle kun ls:n piiippu oli loppuun ammuttu. Talvisota meni 1. prikaatissa suojajoukoissa kun suurin osa muista kylän miehistä olivat 24 rykmentin mukana juurikin Taipaleessa. Pääsi sitten jatkosodassa omien Etelä-Pohojalaastensa joukkoon. Ilmeisesti molemmat selvisivät - Hyvä. Täällä Kuortaneella vietetään aina 16.12 Taipaleenjoen päivää kun yhdessä ainossa vastahyökkäyksessä kuoli 21 ja haavoittui 19 kylän miestä.
When I was serving -91 -92, at that time 11 months, there was a national defence fair in Helsinki. My squad leading school `reservin aliupseerikoulu` was assigned to it. My duty was on `Finish army weapons fron independence to recent`. Once two veterans came to my part of the show and started having a `heated` argument about their LMGs during the war. One said his Lahti-Saloranta M/26 was the best when he took good ceare of it and lubricated it with spindle oil.The other one, who had used a captured DP-27 (Emma) said he would throw two shovels of dirt and piss on it, and it would work fine. My own knowledge is that you can`t hit a barn door with an Emma, but propably because is had been shot for at least for 5 decades before I got to try it. No time on range with the LS-26 for me yet.
Knowing old-school soviet weapons manufacturing I could imagine some DPs not being able to hit anything whilst others were weirdly accurate although most were probably closer to the former than latter.
I'm watching that brass go flying and I'm wondering if we can't attach a satellite to it. This might be the first machine gun where the answer to the question of if the brass is also dangerous, lethal, is yes.
I don't know why, but I can imagine a guy with helmet, 5 to 6meters away, annoyed by the brass ringing the helmet...dingdingdingdingdingdingdingding...
@@tenhundredkills I would know... cause I once fire a MG3 with my hands under ejecting hole, holding the MG3... it fires so fast that in a split second I had an handful of hot bras in my hand, and it malfunctioned ... and it felt like my hand got wiped.... it hurts really really really bad...
In orginal ls26 team there where 90 mags for one gun. Leader, gunner with 5 mags assistant with 5 mags + tools and 4 ammunition guys with 80 mags. In video you can see that 5 mag pounch. Bigger one is for 10 mags.
@@rustem123ful All countries were doing the same thing. Germany is the good example. In ww1 there were team for submachinegunner. In ww2 there were platoon of rifflemans for one machinegun.
@@anttieskelinen1 yeah, I imagine so, just that generally it just lugging around loose ammo that can be used by riflemen themselves and quickly loaded in LMG mags (how it was used among Soviet troops). The thing is you would unload LS26 mag only in extreme situations, as you can't load them back in so easily, so it's a locked supply of ammo for the rest of the squad. Also 90 mags distributed among 7 men isn't that much weight, but it's not nothing, it's steel mags, not modern plastics.
@@rustem123ful I see this as similar to German doctrine, where all solders carried some ammunition for the machine gunner , if you have a squad of 10 each of the 9 of them carrying 10 mags each is not wildly unrealistic, as you said, heavy enough to not be nothing, but doable when you consider on their own they where carrying a bolt action rifle and maybe 40 cartridge's
Original doctrine was to issue all LS-26:s with ~80 mags. It wasn't expected to be loaded while under fire and even then there was the hand tool help manual loading.
First saw this in Talvisota the movie. As a high schooler, my history teacher showed this to us in 1990, it looked like the RPK from Red Dawn and so during the film, YES I was THAT guy who was even in 1990 blurting out gun facts. A Finnish female exchange student chimed in that she doesn't think that's an RPK but a Lahti. Never heard of it and I had to go to the library and look for it on the Jane's Defense small arms. Looks to be a fun gun. Thanks for showcasing it.
@@willydawiller Yes it was a Valmet m78 that looked like an RPK with the clubfoot. Keep in mind that this is 1990 and information was scarce even back then on firearms other than what was available from periodicals.
Outstanding! Ian´s comments kind of confirm my comments about yesterdays LS-26 video. Biggest drawback of LS-26 was it´s small magazine capacity. It runs reliably when properly taken care of, but there´s nothing what you can do about the small magazine. DP-27 mag holds 47 rounds, that´s why it was preferred.
Field stripping it, he said dirt has no many places to go in the action. That had been the doom of many firearms. Work well at the range, but fail in operative conditions, because dirt jams them easily.
Now that is something to think about and seeing this the gun looked like if a machine gun married a rifle. Then again this was in a time before AK-47's would come along which well had a lot of drawbacks as you mentioned earlier but who knows it could also be an inspiration sometime later.
maybe if they did that MG34 double drum type magazine in some form it would've probably caught on with the soldiers. Overall doesn't seem that bad of a LMG. You might even be able to apply it in modern combat perhaps. Not sure.
Standing order for bugging out: you can leave the gun, magazines and ammo, but make damn sure to take the loading tool, we don't our guns used against us.
Its probably to late for this if you haven't filmed it... Could you do a video on the loading tool, or other loading tools in the future? I would think the mechanics would be interesting enough for its own video if not a tack-on portion to the firearm video. Always the appreciate the videos.
If possible it would also be interesting to hear how the need to use these special loading tools in combat was justified by those who adopted the weapons. You know the soldiers had to see this and immediately start cussing.
@@Vares65 it could bee that there was a smaller field model of loading tool that basically just depresses the stack of cartridges. The Swedish designed 50 round coffin mag that was widley used by the finns in the continuation war needed a such loading tool to be used.
The unique feature of the LS-26 is if you aim the gun to the left of the enemy, you still have a fair chance of killing them. The brass flies out fast.
"But you don't take apart the back" - you have to open up the back to change the barrel. You take the buttstock off and pull the whole bolt-barrel-assembly out, similar to an MG13. Soldiers were trained to do this in the field.
@@rustem123ful a semi circular heat shield/open top trough handguard to dump snow in sounds as Finnish as using a nearby tree as a mag reloading station.
The extremely square reciever, simple tube barrel shroud, and almost prototypical magazine shape makes this gun look like a kid's drawing of a gun made into a real thing.
In orginal ls26 team there where 90 mags for one gun. Leader, gunner with 5 mags assistant with 5 mags + tools and 4 ammunition guys with 80 mags. In video you can see that 5 mag pounch. Bigger one is for 10 mags.
All things taken into account, there are a lot of obvious shortcomings as a military weapon. From the engineering standpoint, everything makes some sense. The single feed simplifies the feeding. The double stack optimized round count. Tight tolerances generally make things more precise. But none of that is worth anything if it won't cycle and fire under adverse conditions. For a modern civilian range toy, it's awesome. Especially with all the cool accessories.
That loading device is seriously cool. I get the impression that in any sort of extended engagement you'd have a couple of sections of squaddies just running mags back and forth to a few of these to keep the MG teams supplied.
Granted loading the magazines without the loading machine is an exercise in futility and rimmed ammunition in box magazines is a pain in general with the loading machine and a good supply of magazines they don't appear to be that bad. I could see someone with memories of WWI trench raids converting M1891 Mosin-Nagants into short barreled carbines using the same detachable magazines. But then making a trench carbine LaBelle using chauchat magazines doesn't sound too bad either. Would it be a good thing or bad thing if I am giving "Call of Duty" ideas?
I have a few of these magazines that have been modified to run in my PSL-54, and I haven't found them too difficult to load. You just have to make sure you're loading them one rim in front of the other.
Right at the end of the video was a quick couple of seconds where the ability of the bipod to turn at least 90 degrees was seen to be an advantage.! A quick twist of the gun and the mag is easy to change.
That loading tool definitely looks interesting. I wonder if each half of the tray could hold 20 rounds, so when one side was empty you'd just flip the gate stop and then keep on going after swapping out mags.
Imagine being on loading tool duty, freezing your butt off and hoping the enemy won't find you as you pump a handle attached to a tree over and over again
Next time you have access to a fun loading tool when you have access to the gun, i'd make it a 2 (or 3 day if range capable) series. A video just on the logistics of feeding the beast is more than relevant. I'd have loved to see how that worked, it's quirks, etc.
In war movies you never see the people who are carrying the ammo or loading these clips during an assault. No one carries the ammo they're going to use the whole time. This was my grand-dads weapon and what I remember was that he said that you should shoot in short bursts. Still the clip would go empty very fast.
Wow, this gun sounds like a cannon (and shoots brass like one, too)! I wonder if there are still magazine loading tools from the Winter War bolted onto trees in Finland to this very day.
@@wojszach4443 Most likely yes but in that case it is more like commonsense because fast firing gun in fixed spot is dangerous and usually easy target because high visibility to enemies.
@@Kesssuli recently i heard story from veteran on how sweaty he got when he had to drive in only truck in convoy that didn't recieve new camouflage scheme, like come on, you are some farmer with rpg and you need to pick most valuable target, ofcourse you are going to hit the one different looking thing
One thing about the magazines though, soldiers who carried either LS-26 or DP-27 had at least one, sometimes two others carrying mags for them. They had a LOT of mags at their disposal.
My old dad never said anything about shooting the LS-26, maybe they didn't bother with it when he served in the 1960s, but he did mention something about it. It's a heavy beast of a gun and the instructors would often just throw it at the biggest recruit. Which, back in the 1960s, didn't mean fat but a big strong farm boy like dad. He dragged it along without crying, unlike some poor city boys saddled with a nice light Suomi and skiing for the first time in their lives.
I’ve also read that the guns (including the recoil assemblies) were fielded still in storage grease, which was gunky to begin with, never mind the cold circumstancies. That would have played in the issue, too.
The Elbownian LS-26 squad consisted of 13 men: a gunner, a loader, an ammo carrier, and ten men to carry the tree.
What a waste, you only need max 5 guys to carry the tree, if we're being realistic.
@@romaliop Nah, you see it was an iron tree made special for each one.
The weapon is fairly accurate, which is not up to elbownian standard.
@@rain8767 Would these not be surplus LS-26's, meaning the possibilities of grimey and not so well taken care of examples having made it in the cut, and therefor filling the Elbownian standards of quality?
@@romaliopextra man, better fucking few guy like stupid 4 men to 6 men as sucker squad
Man this thing sounds like a beast. It also chucks brass like it’s a projectile all on it’s own.
The sound did draw in some interested people from the nearby woods 😂
"Why just fire the Bullet at the enemy? Here at Aperture Science's Finnish Subsidiary, we've developed a system to also fire the case at the enemy. That's at least 20% more bullet, per bullet!"
@@diestormlie Stops any flanking attempts from the right side
You wouldn't want to get a hand in the way of that brass
Just like power upgrades of multiple fire in old shoot em ups
screwing the loading tool to a nearby tree is one of the most Finnish things I've ever seen
You could upgrade and attach the loading tool to the wall of a lake side sauna.
The way Ian wagged his finger at 0:42 to command gunfire into existence confirms that he is indeed Gun Jesus.
I'm glad I stumbled upon this comment because God damn that's hilarious.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that😂
He's like Tim, the Enchanter, but with more sensible facial hair.
Imagine a Russian patrol finding a lone loading tool bolted to a tree like a terrible, terrible omen of perkeles to come
Wouldn't just the holes be more ominuous? And you'd obviously put them up BEHIND your ambush, not where the Russkis could find it... ;) but yeah, the idea has merit.
Omen of perkeles has a nice ring to it I have to admit
I would just like to say that I love this comment.
"a terrible, terrible omen of perkeles to come" LMAO! 😂 I learned that term from watching the Hydraulic Press Channel, but its use here was perfect.
Yeah, and then a Soviet flamethrower tank OT-34 drives out and burns to hell a machine-gun crew, half of the Mannerheim line and several finnish villages.
The loading tools having to be screwed to trees makes me wonder how many of them have been left behind in the finnish woods.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I think Fiddox is probably referring to warfare, and troops accidentally leaving them behind, not a collector in 2021.
It the tools get left behind during a retreat that would be a costly mistake
I would imagine people would figure workarounds to actually screwing it on a tree
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine happens all the time today certainly would've happened then
Imagine a unit relocating, and some poor supply private with a screwdriver is yelling, "hey guys, wait!" while he's trying to get the thing off the tree.
My grandpa was an LS gunner in the Winter War, he saw action in fact pretty close to the battle fields that Talvisota the movie (and novel) is depicting. He never mentioned anything special about the gun so I suppose it was just a tool for him, did its job. He did tell one story related to LS gunnery though: one time they had a particularly tough day, the red army just kept coming and coming. So he had to blast away with his LS all through the day. It wasn’t until in the afternoon, when the action cooled down, that he realised he hadn’t had his mittens on, in around 20 degrees below zero. He had just kept going on his addrenaline fumes, didn’t have time to pay attention.
Isoisä kantoi myös Lahti- Salorantaa jatkosodan hyökkäysvaiheessa. Sai Emman tilalle kun ls:n piiippu oli loppuun ammuttu. Talvisota meni 1. prikaatissa suojajoukoissa kun suurin osa muista kylän miehistä olivat 24 rykmentin mukana juurikin Taipaleessa. Pääsi sitten jatkosodassa omien Etelä-Pohojalaastensa joukkoon. Ilmeisesti molemmat selvisivät - Hyvä. Täällä Kuortaneella vietetään aina 16.12 Taipaleenjoen päivää kun yhdessä ainossa vastahyökkäyksessä kuoli 21 ja haavoittui 19 kylän miestä.
When I was serving -91 -92, at that time 11 months, there was a national defence fair in Helsinki. My squad leading school `reservin aliupseerikoulu` was assigned to it. My duty was on `Finish army weapons fron independence to recent`. Once two veterans came to my part of the show and started having a `heated` argument about their LMGs during the war. One said his Lahti-Saloranta M/26 was the best when he took good ceare of it and lubricated it with spindle oil.The other one, who had used a captured DP-27 (Emma) said he would throw two shovels of dirt and piss on it, and it would work fine.
My own knowledge is that you can`t hit a barn door with an Emma, but propably because is had been shot for at least for 5 decades before I got to try it. No time on range with the LS-26 for me yet.
Knowing old-school soviet weapons manufacturing I could imagine some DPs not being able to hit anything whilst others were weirdly accurate although most were probably closer to the former than latter.
Your joking about accuracy. Fact still fires after 5 decades of use by soldiers is impressive. Russian weapons really aren't that inaccurate.
I'm watching that brass go flying and I'm wondering if we can't attach a satellite to it.
This might be the first machine gun where the answer to the question of if the brass is also dangerous, lethal, is yes.
G3 pattern guns and the HK21 are notorious for launching brass into low-earth orbit as well.
The Thompson auto rifle was said to be able to spit the brass out with so much force that it could get stuck into the wooden safety barriers.
I don't know why, but I can imagine a guy with helmet, 5 to 6meters away, annoyed by the brass ringing the helmet...dingdingdingdingdingdingdingding...
@@tenhundredkills I would know... cause I once fire a MG3 with my hands under ejecting hole, holding the MG3... it fires so fast that in a split second I had an handful of hot bras in my hand, and it malfunctioned ... and it felt like my hand got wiped.... it hurts really really really bad...
I love the satellite attachment idea. Start a patreon. You'll be set for life.
That magazine loader was an engineering feat all on its, very interesting
My thoughts exactly. I've heard of crew-served weapons before, but a crew-served loading tool is brand new to me.
Imagine being the soldier using that gun and knowing that 4 of your comrades spent the after-noon loading your magazines. Would you dare miss?
In orginal ls26 team there where 90 mags for one gun. Leader, gunner with 5 mags assistant with 5 mags + tools and 4 ammunition guys with 80 mags. In video you can see that 5 mag pounch. Bigger one is for 10 mags.
@@anttieskelinen1 that's too much people to be chained to 1 LMG. Also production cost must have been through the roof to issue that many mags.
@@rustem123ful All countries were doing the same thing. Germany is the good example. In ww1 there were team for submachinegunner. In ww2 there were platoon of rifflemans for one machinegun.
@@anttieskelinen1 yeah, I imagine so, just that generally it just lugging around loose ammo that can be used by riflemen themselves and quickly loaded in LMG mags (how it was used among Soviet troops). The thing is you would unload LS26 mag only in extreme situations, as you can't load them back in so easily, so it's a locked supply of ammo for the rest of the squad. Also 90 mags distributed among 7 men isn't that much weight, but it's not nothing, it's steel mags, not modern plastics.
@@rustem123ful I see this as similar to German doctrine, where all solders carried some ammunition for the machine gunner , if you have a squad of 10 each of the 9 of them carrying 10 mags each is not wildly unrealistic, as you said, heavy enough to not be nothing, but doable when you consider on their own they where carrying a bolt action rifle and maybe 40 cartridge's
That loading tool is definitely a gamechanger for this MG and looks like a serious piece of engineering.
Ian McCollum: Saving the faces of a number of misjudged firearms.
The empty brass seems to be ejected with considerable force.
The load tool is really cool and interesting. Not ideal in a combat situation, but interesting!
Original doctrine was to issue all LS-26:s with ~80 mags. It wasn't expected to be loaded while under fire and even then there was the hand tool help manual loading.
That tool deserves a video all on its own. HOW DOES IT WORK!!!
@@petrimakela5978 I'll assume this is from your collection and if so that's a very nice collection you have sir, that was quite a room!
@@marvindebot3264 I wish it was mine, but sadly it's owned by a friend of mine. But I was lucky enough to help out with the range day.
@@petrimakela5978 1600 7,62*53r+80mags=Finns didn't have enough men in the front to carry all that.
Aimo Lahti : How violent do you want the brass to be ejected?
Mannerheim : Yes.
The sound of this machine gun should be recorded by a game developer. Wow.
Is there a standard issue tree that comes with the loading tool or is any tree good to use?
It's Finland we're speaking about, 50% of this country is made out of tree (and the other 50% are snow)
his dog marked it for practise
To my knowledge, all the LS-26:s came bundled with a small tree, but the screws were an optional extra
@@MrSinny you forgot the lakes
In a brilliant bit of pre-war planning, Finnish engineers pre-located standard issue trees in all areas that might have fighting,.
360° rotation on the lmg? The Finns already knew back then that we'd have to shoot from the ceiling.
360° rotation is for when somebody tries flanking to your left, you just flip the gun upsidedown and let the ejecting brass take care of them
Holy crap that is quite the energetic ejection.
Absolutely
Well it sure as hell makes sure flanking attempts from your right side won't happen
I was going to say, if the bullets don't take out the target, perhaps the brass it's hurling will.
Incredibly violent, yet surprisingly consistent.
First saw this in Talvisota the movie. As a high schooler, my history teacher showed this to us in 1990, it looked like the RPK from Red Dawn and so during the film, YES I was THAT guy who was even in 1990 blurting out gun facts. A Finnish female exchange student chimed in that she doesn't think that's an RPK but a Lahti. Never heard of it and I had to go to the library and look for it on the Jane's Defense small arms.
Looks to be a fun gun. Thanks for showcasing it.
i wanna be that guy right now, the RPK in Red Dawn was also not an RPK but a Valmet rifle, off my memory
@@willydawiller Yes it was a Valmet m78 that looked like an RPK with the clubfoot. Keep in mind that this is 1990 and information was scarce even back then on firearms other than what was available from periodicals.
Outstanding! Ian´s comments kind of confirm my comments about yesterdays LS-26 video. Biggest drawback of LS-26 was it´s small magazine capacity. It runs reliably when properly taken care of, but there´s nothing what you can do about the small magazine. DP-27 mag holds 47 rounds, that´s why it was preferred.
Field stripping it, he said dirt has no many places to go in the action. That had been the doom of many firearms. Work well at the range, but fail in operative conditions, because dirt jams them easily.
It was issued along with around 80 mags and the reloading tool; the idea being you had no need of reloading during a firefight.
Now that is something to think about and seeing this the gun looked like if a machine gun married a rifle. Then again this was in a time before AK-47's would come along which well had a lot of drawbacks as you mentioned earlier but who knows it could also be an inspiration sometime later.
maybe if they did that MG34 double drum type magazine in some form it would've probably caught on with the soldiers. Overall doesn't seem that bad of a LMG. You might even be able to apply it in modern combat perhaps. Not sure.
@@robosoldier11 Now that would be something if it did happen.
1:34 the automatic fire paired with the slow zoom out of the camera reminds me of the old intro
I think I'd watch a whole episode on how that loader works. What a cool piece of kit.
Second
Real reason why this gun is accurate is because the gunner wouldn't dare to miss after his friends spent all day loading the five magazines they have.
That's a really cool and efficient reloading tool... just not in the field when you actually need the reload.
Standing order for bugging out: you can leave the gun, magazines and ammo, but make damn sure to take the loading tool, we don't our guns used against us.
I don't know if it's just the acoustics of the range, but goddamn that thing sounds like a much bigger gun
Its probably to late for this if you haven't filmed it... Could you do a video on the loading tool, or other loading tools in the future? I would think the mechanics would be interesting enough for its own video if not a tack-on portion to the firearm video. Always the appreciate the videos.
If possible it would also be interesting to hear how the need to use these special loading tools in combat was justified by those who adopted the weapons. You know the soldiers had to see this and immediately start cussing.
@@Vares65 it could bee that there was a smaller field model of loading tool that basically just depresses the stack of cartridges. The Swedish designed 50 round coffin mag that was widley used by the finns in the continuation war needed a such loading tool to be used.
This was a great day at the range!
Agreed 👍
@@obidonekenobi3568 No wonder you liked it as you got to blast full auto too!
Okay, now I can finaly put a finger on why I love the LS: The thing sounds BRUTAL
Thanks for including the loading tool in your video!
imagine trying to flank that thing and getting hit by the spent brass
The unique feature of the LS-26 is if you aim the gun to the left of the enemy, you still have a fair chance of killing them. The brass flies out fast.
FAL flashbacks intensify
"But you don't take apart the back" - you have to open up the back to change the barrel. You take the buttstock off and pull the whole bolt-barrel-assembly out, similar to an MG13. Soldiers were trained to do this in the field.
This thing would have been truly terrifying if it was belt-fed from something as portable as a backpack.
With a not quick-exchange barrel, not so much.
@@neutronalchemist3241 well, once you can't shot anymore, you can charge and burn the ennemies hitting them with the barrel 😋
@@andredulac4456 maybe you use snow to cool it?
@@rustem123ful a semi circular heat shield/open top trough handguard to dump snow in sounds as Finnish as using a nearby tree as a mag reloading station.
I was wondering how prevalent rim lock might have been, glad I stayed until the end!
I like that Ian is using an FDF sleeping mat as cover.
The extremely square reciever, simple tube barrel shroud, and almost prototypical magazine shape makes this gun look like a kid's drawing of a gun made into a real thing.
I want an episode on just the loading tool, good lord is that a complicated way to load a 20 round mag.
In orginal ls26 team there where 90 mags for one gun. Leader, gunner with 5 mags assistant with 5 mags + tools and 4 ammunition guys with 80 mags. In video you can see that 5 mag pounch. Bigger one is for 10 mags.
Remember when forgotten weapons had the intro with strange guitar and bagpipe music and ended with a bolt gun blowing up? Pepperidge Farm remembers...
Are we gonna make a ballistic gel test for the brass ejection?
All things taken into account, there are a lot of obvious shortcomings as a military weapon.
From the engineering standpoint, everything makes some sense. The single feed simplifies the feeding. The double stack optimized round count. Tight tolerances generally make things more precise. But none of that is worth anything if it won't cycle and fire under adverse conditions.
For a modern civilian range toy, it's awesome. Especially with all the cool accessories.
Watching that Mag get loaded was the most satisfying things that I have watched all Month...!...
That loading device is seriously cool. I get the impression that in any sort of extended engagement you'd have a couple of sections of squaddies just running mags back and forth to a few of these to keep the MG teams supplied.
... no bloody wonder it was hard to hand-load, that loader-thing has more metal on it than a Trabant .
Not a high standard tbh
That ejection may be a match for the mini 14.....
Recognised the running moose shooting range setup. Would be nice see gun Jesus shoot the running paper moose.
The loading process is as interesting as the shooting.
That loading tool was what had me the most curious in your last video. Thank you for showing it!
I'm gonna be making sure I'm on the gunners left at all times
Granted loading the magazines without the loading machine is an exercise in futility and rimmed ammunition in box magazines is a pain in general with the loading machine and a good supply of magazines they don't appear to be that bad.
I could see someone with memories of WWI trench raids converting M1891 Mosin-Nagants into short barreled carbines using the same detachable magazines. But then making a trench carbine LaBelle using chauchat magazines doesn't sound too bad either.
Would it be a good thing or bad thing if I am giving "Call of Duty" ideas?
I have a few of these magazines that have been modified to run in my PSL-54, and I haven't found them too difficult to load. You just have to make sure you're loading them one rim in front of the other.
I think the loading tool bolted to a tree is almost just as interesting as the gun itself.
Right at the end of the video was a quick couple of seconds where the ability of the bipod to turn at least 90 degrees was seen to be an advantage.! A quick twist of the gun and the mag is easy to change.
That loader is brilliant.
It is quite a compact receiver, and a nice looking relic.
" Oh this is the way we load our mag load our mags this is way we load our mags, alllll the live long day!"
Are you having a stroke?
@@gordordf1091 well considering how my heart likes to Afib when ever it wants to it seems likely
pretty cool that the bipod allows for tactical barrel rolls
That loading tool definitely looks interesting. I wonder if each half of the tray could hold 20 rounds, so when one side was empty you'd just flip the gate stop and then keep on going after swapping out mags.
Imagine being on loading tool duty, freezing your butt off and hoping the enemy won't find you as you pump a handle attached to a tree over and over again
Grandpa, what did you do during the war? I spun a handle attached to a tree
Next time you have access to a fun loading tool when you have access to the gun, i'd make it a 2 (or 3 day if range capable) series. A video just on the logistics of feeding the beast is more than relevant. I'd have loved to see how that worked, it's quirks, etc.
Well my cat loved this video for some reason, she just sat and watched the reloading trying to catch your hands haha
That's like a brass laser beam coming out the ejection port.
Good thing there was always a tree near by! You would have a large queue at the North Pole.
the exiting brass also provides suppressive cover fire to anyone shooting you from 90 degrees to your right
Extra flank protection 😆
When the machine gun, needs a machine gun to load magazines you know its a banger.
I'd imagine many of the negative reviews from soldiers came from those getting pelted with spent brass.
I imagine soldiers would get shitty when they were told they were going to be on the right hand side of it
I didn't know that Counter Strike's AK-47 uses sound effects from LS-26 until now.
Always wondered why the Finnish Sahara Expeditionary Force never brought these with them. No trees.
That loading tool is slick
Thank you , Ian .
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That thing sounds insane
That thing HURLS that brass out. I suspect the assistant gunner always stayed on the left side of the gun
In war movies you never see the people who are carrying the ammo or loading these clips during an assault. No one carries the ammo they're going to use the whole time.
This was my grand-dads weapon and what I remember was that he said that you should shoot in short bursts. Still the clip would go empty very fast.
Wow, this gun sounds like a cannon (and shoots brass like one, too)! I wonder if there are still magazine loading tools from the Winter War bolted onto trees in Finland to this very day.
Rim lock! Another good reason to never initiate an ambush with a machine gun.
Machine gun chambered in a rimmed cartridge*
A crew served magazine, because the real forgotten weapon was teamwork
Recently watched Tuntematon Sotilas, and i have to say as cool weapon it is, it's operators tend to get hit more often than grunts with mosins
It is quite common for support weapon to get much more attention than typical guys with rifle.
@@Kesssuli anything that looks different gets shot first, thats rule of thumb
@@wojszach4443 Most likely yes but in that case it is more like commonsense because fast firing gun in fixed spot is dangerous and usually easy target because high visibility to enemies.
@@Kesssuli recently i heard story from veteran on how sweaty he got when he had to drive in only truck in convoy that didn't recieve new camouflage scheme, like come on, you are some farmer with rpg and you need to pick most valuable target, ofcourse you are going to hit the one different looking thing
this is the same with any support weapon
That gun actually is quite sexy in my opinion :)
This thing absolutely CHUCKS brass. I also loved seeing the loading process. Had me giggling like a school boy the whole time. Very neat!
Love that loading tool! If I could find one for some of my WW2 era collection, I'd buy one in a heartbeat!
That thing goes thru magazines quite fast. One thing that struck me was the velocity of the spent shell casings flying out the side!
One thing about the magazines though, soldiers who carried either LS-26 or DP-27 had at least one, sometimes two others carrying mags for them. They had a LOT of mags at their disposal.
At 0:43 I thought it went off at the tap of the finger, perfect timing 😀
The acoustics at that range are fucking incredible.
Dang! That's some aggressive ejections.
My old dad never said anything about shooting the LS-26, maybe they didn't bother with it when he served in the 1960s, but he did mention something about it. It's a heavy beast of a gun and the instructors would often just throw it at the biggest recruit. Which, back in the 1960s, didn't mean fat but a big strong farm boy like dad. He dragged it along without crying, unlike some poor city boys saddled with a nice light Suomi and skiing for the first time in their lives.
I’ve also read that the guns (including the recoil assemblies) were fielded still in storage grease, which was gunky to begin with, never mind the cold circumstancies. That would have played in the issue, too.
@@Kadeo-ms6qw Yeah I did not, seems like that was also confirmed there.
So the terribly bad rectangular doodle of a gun I drew during childhood is actually real, good to know
The reason for its reputation really reminds me of the Ross rifle.
The LS is a real engine of a machine gun. That ejecting brass has some horsepower behind it.
What a tremendous sound! I really appreciate the recording quality here
THAT'S A NICE SOUND THAT GUN HAS.
"Can't really load more than 4 or 5 rounds at a time" - Welcome to Canada!
Man, that sounds as good as it looks!!! That ones got a good throaty report to it
After watching this, I'm so equipping the LS/26 the next time I play as a support in Battlefield V. Great video as always, Ian!
The loading tool being screwed to a tree is the most Finnish thing ever.
Awesome sounding at that range.
Damn that thing sounds absolutely amazing! What a beast.
Forget the gym loading those mags is the perfect exercise