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  • Опубликовано: 29 июн 2021
  • There are many different ways to look at polyrhythms in music and today we are looking at a different one, using star shapes. Last time we visualized these rhythms using straight sided polygons but I had a great comment on the last video that suggested using a star shape. So after many hours of making the new animations here are the more common polyrhythms you will find in music visualized using star shapes. This is an exercise in visualizing musician not a method for teaching polyrhythms. I hope you enjoy!
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  • @oenwilson2486
    @oenwilson2486 2 года назад +740

    That 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm could've sounded awesome if you chose notes that harmonized well with it but great video nonetheless

    • @GOATaro_
      @GOATaro_ 2 года назад +13

      Agree

    • @vuedanto8576
      @vuedanto8576 2 года назад +33

      It sounds great when it was 1:2:3:4:5

    • @TimothyLowYK
      @TimothyLowYK 2 года назад +18

      I think it was meant to be a quartal chord built on perfect fourths

    • @oenwilson2486
      @oenwilson2486 2 года назад +14

      @@TimothyLowYK guess that explains why quartal harmony probably only sounds nice to a certain degree cuz when a lot of the fourths are stacked it doesn't sound as great compaerd to the stack of fifths probably

    • @tomdekler9280
      @tomdekler9280 2 года назад +9

      Maybe if he adjusted the pitch to match the relative frequencies? I know 2:3 makes a perfect fifth if you speed it up enough.

  • @neopessimist7326
    @neopessimist7326 3 года назад +307

    Its quite interesting how you can hear the rythmn go almost go to unclear noise. Like a toddler that over enthausiastic rings the doorbell.

    • @cl0p38
      @cl0p38 2 года назад +5

      It all started with 7, nobody likes 7

    • @LaurensHouweling
      @LaurensHouweling 2 года назад +1

      to be fair it was played really fast

    • @circumplex9552
      @circumplex9552 2 года назад +1

      @@cl0p38 all prime numbers are weird except 2 3 and 5

    • @scrapgrace
      @scrapgrace 2 года назад

      Go 2x speed

  • @mmm-tacos
    @mmm-tacos Год назад +166

    i want to see that 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrythm:
    1. with just the dots
    2. using the harmonic series as the notes

    • @PabloGambaccini
      @PabloGambaccini Год назад +5

      Was going to say the same, numbers equal harmonic series ❤ it's like a recursive harmonic series in that way.

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@PabloGambaccinitrue yeah actually

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 11 месяцев назад +1

      59th like

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@PabloGambaccini3rd like

    • @Whydoiexisthere-
      @Whydoiexisthere- 7 месяцев назад

      I feel like the out-of-harmony notes can make its own unique song for certain scenes in like, a movie. Each polyrhythm adds onto the chaos, until it eventually transitions from music to noise…

  • @netric9084
    @netric9084 2 года назад +190

    I like how the ending sounded like someone playing random keys, laying their whole arm on the keyboard, playing random notes again, and repeating.

  • @gvmrpg
    @gvmrpg Год назад +22

    I've been playing drums for 16 years and for the first time in my life I managed to REALLY visualize what a 6:7 is actually doing in the background. Seeing it was so much easier than just clapping to the beat. Thank you for this!

  • @Rarok666
    @Rarok666 Год назад +15

    6:00 The fact you chose the tritone of all things on this exact polyrhythm

  • @tristanhmusic
    @tristanhmusic 3 года назад +43

    I think the stars are really effective, visually!

  • @seanofpeace
    @seanofpeace 2 года назад +248

    I love how the sound of all the combined polyrhythms take a little 'breath' on the beat (at the bottom of the circle).
    Great video! Thank you!

  • @jaybonn5973
    @jaybonn5973 2 года назад +54

    I think there's a metaphor for the tritone being the most dominant sound in a cacophony of noise.

  • @tamarpeer261
    @tamarpeer261 2 года назад +76

    You can also visualize x:y polyrhythms using an y:x billiard table with a ball that starts with 45 degrees. The reason it works is that reflection (the way the ball bounces off the wall) is the same as if your replicated the rectangle across the plane, and looked when the equation x=y hit the walls. It hits a vertical wall every y seconds, and a horizontal wall every x seconds.

    • @circumplex9552
      @circumplex9552 2 года назад +2

      shouldnt the dimensions be 1/y:1/x?

    • @circumplex9552
      @circumplex9552 2 года назад +1

      actually no wait, you explanation makes sense because (1/x)/(1/y) = y/x

  • @ferudunatakan
    @ferudunatakan Год назад +15

    5:2 is the best of di-rhythms. Because more points makes it so strident and fast. Others like 2:3 and 3:4 are simple ratios.

  • @coleozaeta6344
    @coleozaeta6344 2 года назад +8

    The end was everything I wanted.

  • @ci.netproductions
    @ci.netproductions 2 года назад +5

    8:29… ah yes… SHEAR CHAOS!!!

  • @komander2365
    @komander2365 2 года назад +80

    7:47 the last visualisation was a bit messed up, becasue there were many different stars hitting at the same spots. It would be super interesting to hear how prime-numbered stars would sound like. Great work tho, keep it up

    • @elskieuwu
      @elskieuwu 2 года назад +13

      2:3:5:7:11:13:17

    • @ojd9145
      @ojd9145 Год назад +2

      :19:23:29:31:37:41:43:47:53

    • @victorvirgili4447
      @victorvirgili4447 Год назад +1

      “This next song is called ‘A World on Fire’”

  • @piacomispl2023
    @piacomispl2023 2 года назад +15

    The more complex the polirythm the more it sounds like a jackpot

  • @viviwu5404
    @viviwu5404 2 года назад +6

    17 is so ridiculous it’s so hard to see and I love that!

  • @lmilli8124
    @lmilli8124 2 года назад +5

    This reminds me of watching someone else's turn signal swap from in phase to out of phase with my own.

    • @timothysmudski1058
      @timothysmudski1058 4 месяца назад

      Nice, similar concept: watching the footsteps of two people walking abreast. If you're like the rain man you can calculate the ratio of their heights by observing their steps fall in and out of phase

  • @superactinide
    @superactinide Год назад +9

    love this, but it would be so much cooler if the notes matched the interval ratios of their polyrhythm

  • @AhmedAldoori
    @AhmedAldoori Год назад +2

    This is absolutely brilliant, thank you so much for making this!

  • @Mikeinator_
    @Mikeinator_ Год назад +8

    I love how once the 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm is fully assembled it sounds like a pianist have a seizure while periodically having moments of clarity.

  • @johnellison3030
    @johnellison3030 Год назад

    Extremely educational video for me in understanding time signatures and changes to them in music. Very well done. Please do more of these.

  • @spacetrucker2196
    @spacetrucker2196 2 года назад +5

    This is really good, I didn’t understand how to visualize polyrhythms other then playing by ear before this.

  • @robertpien8708
    @robertpien8708 2 года назад +3

    I think polyrhythms are amazing so many colorful possibilities at your fingertips. Thanks for helping us expand are creativity.

    • @KororaPenguin
      @KororaPenguin 7 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/vN838j1cAwA/видео.html

  • @robbes7rh
    @robbes7rh Год назад

    I love how you built up to that tour de force polyglot polyrhythm. Chaos that is completely coherent, symetrical, and orderly.

  • @guiltfilterrecords
    @guiltfilterrecords Год назад

    Great video, have been struggling to understand polyrthyms, I am self taught musician and this is the best video, thanks so much dude!

  • @user-gh2ys6jb3u
    @user-gh2ys6jb3u 2 года назад +3

    The 3 points star is the most unique looking and sounding i've ever seen.

  • @lorenzoreesor1228
    @lorenzoreesor1228 3 года назад +27

    Each number in the sequence is the sum of the two numbers that precede it. So, the sequence goes: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, and so on. The mathematical equation describing it is Xn+2= Xn+1 + Xn

    • @whiteboardDSA
      @whiteboardDSA 3 года назад

      there is proof that musician actually use left brain more than right you seem to be the proof

    • @rs-tarxvfz
      @rs-tarxvfz 2 года назад +14

      Uhm, Not sure, that is Fibonacci series. But the polyrhythm goes
      1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 which is not the Fibonacci Ratio

    • @MRX-ji3rh
      @MRX-ji3rh 2 года назад

      @@rs-tarxvfz was about to say that

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 2 года назад

      I was like, "is this the right video?"

  • @jmegapixel7
    @jmegapixel7 2 года назад

    Absolutely brilliant video thank you so much. 👏🏻

  • @BananaDude508
    @BananaDude508 2 года назад +2

    the best way to think about polyrhythms is 2 different car blinkers started at the same time, looking like they are in tune but they they leave sync then join again

  • @ejb7969
    @ejb7969 Год назад +4

    Consider using the harmonic series for the final omnipolyrhythm!
    But yours sounds great!

  • @leocrian3194
    @leocrian3194 3 года назад +1

    Loved it man!!! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @kengyangtan
    @kengyangtan Год назад +3

    The 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 sounded like an alarm that got more stressful every second

  • @Paruthi.618
    @Paruthi.618 2 года назад +2

    Amazing video..
    very cool video watched today on RUclips

  • @duality4y
    @duality4y 2 года назад +2

    5:2 is pretty neat sounding

  • @Polyrhythms
    @Polyrhythms Год назад +2

    This is very cool!

  • @Hariztoteles7178
    @Hariztoteles7178 2 года назад +4

    Cool tutorial. . quite easy to play

  • @smun2931
    @smun2931 2 года назад +3

    you can use bezier curve to do better stars and having the point following the curves better

  • @yoffo_
    @yoffo_ 2 года назад +6

    Funny thing is, in the end i could clearly make out the 2:3 rhythm against the noise

  • @carmengomez8189
    @carmengomez8189 Год назад

    Thank you for teachimg me the basics

  • @alexandremigueldoromal
    @alexandremigueldoromal Год назад +3

    13 against 17 sounds the best in my opinion.

  • @Rheologist
    @Rheologist 2 года назад +1

    I noticed that the (high) frequency ratios of each of the first examples polyrhythm matched ;) nice

  • @lubricustheslippery5028
    @lubricustheslippery5028 2 года назад +4

    If you speed up an rhythm you get a tone. If you speed up a polyrhytm you should get a chord. It would be interesting to se the correspondens between chords and polyrythms.

  • @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215
    @thevoidanswerswithjazz2215 2 года назад +1

    Ligeti would Looove this big combined one at the end

  • @joeboi8216
    @joeboi8216 Год назад +3

    God dammit, now I want a music maker using polyrhythms!

  • @echolegend4400
    @echolegend4400 2 года назад +3

    1:2:3:4 sounded really good and then 5 brought chaos with it

    • @tristantheoofer2
      @tristantheoofer2 Год назад

      even 1:2:3:4:5 doesnt sound bad and tbh that and 7:9 ontop sounds ok i guess. beyond that tho is chaos

  • @damiennightmaresx7950
    @damiennightmaresx7950 Год назад +1

    i love the final design and for what ever reason i thought i heard E before the 17 star got added-

  • @sporghell
    @sporghell 19 дней назад

    I love that 1:2:3:4:5:6 polyrhythm so much, 8:22

  • @DeathZeroTolerance
    @DeathZeroTolerance 2 года назад +7

    5:2 has great tension, beautiful! Is this software available? Did you build it with manim? thanks

  • @sirbanjorochambeaux
    @sirbanjorochambeaux Год назад +2

    i did some learns, but maybe do a more distinct sound like bass vs guitar (i'm not the greatest on the keys, and it was hard to tell them apart without watching). thamk.

  • @skelenize
    @skelenize 2 года назад +2

    5:56 yeah im pretty sure it sounded like that

  • @crep50
    @crep50 2 года назад +3

    Time to make a song based off of the elusive 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm

  • @eltonwild5648
    @eltonwild5648 3 года назад +1

    Really interesting. Thanks

  • @armcannon1998
    @armcannon1998 2 года назад +2

    Tritone interval on the 911 polyrhythm, I see you

  • @clasesdepercusion
    @clasesdepercusion 2 года назад +1

    very interesting! thanks

  • @6ixty9nine24
    @6ixty9nine24 5 месяцев назад

    THAT 3:4 SOUNDS TOO AMAZING

  • @jaybonn5973
    @jaybonn5973 2 года назад +1

    The use of the tonic fiths dominants and octaves majors and minors for the different ratios are not lost on me.

  • @user-qo1yt4xh5b
    @user-qo1yt4xh5b 25 дней назад

    The Polyrhythm 7:9 is amazing🤩

  • @Green24152
    @Green24152 10 месяцев назад

    even with all that noise the 2:3 combo moment shines through like a beacon

  • @fennelcomeaux9663
    @fennelcomeaux9663 Год назад +1

    that final polyrhythm almost sounded like something from a horror movie

  • @itsdjpenguin
    @itsdjpenguin Год назад +1

    funny how the 9:11 example has the two notes a tritone apart (which is a rather dissonant interval); wonder if that implies something related to said numbers

  • @kristianbruneteau206
    @kristianbruneteau206 Год назад

    Visually and mathematically beautiful

  • @maker0824
    @maker0824 7 месяцев назад

    6:42 that kid’s going ham on that piano

  • @rickard.eriksson
    @rickard.eriksson 2 года назад +2

    2 Years of explaining how polyrhtym works, and i look confused, and ask;" Why? ".
    10 minutes of a YT video, and i go;" ooooooh, that explains a lot. ".

  • @willrandship
    @willrandship 2 года назад +2

    That last one sounds like a sorting algorithm.

  • @Ducjk711
    @Ducjk711 Год назад

    This visualization makes a lot of sense now that you can actually over lap them and see which beat plays when

  • @Isaac-1028
    @Isaac-1028 Год назад +1

    5:56 "9 against 11 sounds like this" *Airplane crash sounds*

  • @joshuakinder
    @joshuakinder 11 месяцев назад

    9:06 ngl it was emotional, I was about to cry but the video ended soon later

  • @haniel_0652
    @haniel_0652 Год назад +1

    9:11 sounds like an emergency if you think about that

  • @Flat_cones
    @Flat_cones 2 года назад +6

    Can you maybe also talk about if there is a difference between 2:3 and 3:2 as an example

    • @phildiop8248
      @phildiop8248 2 года назад

      There no real difference I think. Might be wrong, but I think it's just visually note a smaller number:larger number.

    • @inari.28
      @inari.28 2 года назад +1

      @@phildiop8248 there is a difference actually, the second number in 2:3 and 3:2 is the "main" pulse, so if it's in 2:3 it is a beat of 3 with 2 beats countering it, and vice versa for 3:2

    • @phildiop8248
      @phildiop8248 2 года назад

      @@inari.28 That's interesting. If both pulses act equally or if there's no ''main'' pulse, would it be small:large?

  • @yahoo5726
    @yahoo5726 Год назад +1

    Primes against squares are nice.

  • @paulcastro7507
    @paulcastro7507 2 года назад +4

    I know some polyrythm because I know how they sound and I can imitate, but if I have to make a new polyrithm that I don't know (like 5:7) I would need to do the "maths" and after that remember the rythm and just playing it by memory. Is there any trick to not play the polyrythm by memory and doing the rythm just by heart?

  • @ericscheit5540
    @ericscheit5540 7 месяцев назад

    Its amazing.

  • @SerenityMusic3
    @SerenityMusic3 Год назад

    Love ❤️ this, where can I get one of those stars 🤩

  • @TheRizzlerX
    @TheRizzlerX 2 года назад +3

    It’s very interesting that its has 17 parts

  • @CuboctahedronThe3D
    @CuboctahedronThe3D 8 месяцев назад

    A Decision has happened 8:58
    Last one sounds fire

  • @nileprimewastaken
    @nileprimewastaken Год назад +1

    at the end, was the volume of the 3:4 polyrhythm boosted? I could still hear it through the noise, even when i was focusing on something else

  • @xochitlmtzgcia
    @xochitlmtzgcia Год назад

    3:4 sounds awesome

  • @lorenzoreesor1228
    @lorenzoreesor1228 3 года назад +5

    Do poly rythrms of Fibonacci sequence .

  • @IMINYOURWALLSHARHARHAR
    @IMINYOURWALLSHARHARHAR 7 месяцев назад

    4:5 sounds so good

  • @ItzCataIO
    @ItzCataIO Год назад

    The 1-:>17 looks like all the colours are chasing the white one, it looks so funny.

  • @ridgidrumors
    @ridgidrumors 2 года назад +2

    Soo when is the app coming out?

  • @Márciakais
    @Márciakais Год назад

    Fico muito feliz por você estar presente
    foi...

  • @parsa.mostaghim
    @parsa.mostaghim 2 года назад +3

    overlaping stars are much better to show the phase difference between two divisions

  • @sarahaprincesa
    @sarahaprincesa 8 месяцев назад

    🤩 amazing

  • @destroyerrider02
    @destroyerrider02 Год назад

    Can you use all polyrhythms (i.e. 1:2, 2:3, 3:4, 4:5, 5:6, 6:7, 7:9, 9:11, 11:13, and 13:17) to make a song?
    Reason why I asked this question is that some polyrhythms can be used to make music. For instance, 50s music uses polyrhythms to make the music more upbeat and hip.

  • @mansursher1764
    @mansursher1764 2 месяца назад

    4:3 is amazing

  • @conjunctionjunction8890
    @conjunctionjunction8890 2 года назад +1

    That last one was a real toe tapper

  • @Tristanchatoy07
    @Tristanchatoy07 Год назад +1

    but if you do 1000:2000 for a star, then it will look like a circle with a thick edge.
    and if you use marks for 1000:2000, then it will be 2 lines.

  • @pyrokinetikrlz
    @pyrokinetikrlz 2 года назад +4

    Chopin's Nocturne in B flat minor op9 no1 has a 11:6 polyrhythm in the second measure

  • @jdstin1060
    @jdstin1060 11 месяцев назад

    I like the 5:2 sounds like part of music

  • @tydino101
    @tydino101 Год назад

    5:2 sounds like heaven

  • @hatebreeder999
    @hatebreeder999 Год назад

    Pls make similar video on polymeters
    5/4 over 4/4
    5/8 over 4/4
    5/16 over 4/4

  • @sb10834
    @sb10834 Год назад +1

    5:2 sounds like a horror movie

  • @bexsampson8271
    @bexsampson8271 Год назад

    It’s so cool

  • @andrecole2369
    @andrecole2369 Год назад

    1:2 is my favorite

  • @Jamiereed9
    @Jamiereed9 6 месяцев назад

    Idea:Use number lines and mark the position of each tick when the number is to high use a different scale

  • @matahugu8675
    @matahugu8675 11 месяцев назад

    the 1:2:3 and 1:2:3:4 sounded the best, ngl

  • @CeliaNightstep
    @CeliaNightstep Год назад +1

    5 to 6 soudns very much like church bells to me. Not sure if church bells sounds different but the ones where i live sounds like it

  • @anitoarriba9188
    @anitoarriba9188 Год назад

    YES

  • @alexfrancis7918
    @alexfrancis7918 Год назад +1

    Great