First time I ever Heard so intelligent voice from Pakistani, those who have knowledge about history, politics, economics. As an Indian I want to ask you to sperd his vision in allover pakistan.
The guest was exceptionally good(regret my lack of knowledge of him from before), but I was most impressed by your handling of the discussion. I haven't always agreed with how your previous discussions have been handled ( maybe a lack of domain expertise/knowledge to counter ), but absolute credit where it is due. No unnecessary interjection of opinion, allowing the guest to have his say fully. Imo, among the best hosted podcasts i have had the pleasure of viewing.
Its really a treat to listen to the intellectual conversation by Hashir Ibn e Irshaad. He never disappoints me when it comes to rational thought. Would love to have more podcasts with him.
🐫🐃🦍🐘🦬🦛🦣 Thirty year ago London, Paris, and other major European cities where neat, tidy, safe and beautiful cities. Today many areas in these cities have been converted into filthy and dangerous ghettos by Muslim immigrants from Pakistan , Bangladesh and a few other countries. The local Chritian people are afraid to live in these areas.
Brilliant discussion by guest with clarity and lots of analysis and finally let down for lack of solution. Abolish two nations theory, declare secularism, declare india as the MFN and unify defence forces to manage borders. India can then rub all positive vibes of our 10,000 years of culture, civilisation and ideas. Love of Bollywood is a clear example of what Pakistan want from their life. Next alternative is balkanisation which is better than the first. My take!!!
Hey Shayan - your attempts to look for a chimera of optimism - in a sea of darkness was very cute - and frankly reeked of desperation. And like you questioned Irshad saab - I question you and your sanity on why you choose to come back to PK. I would definitely like to know your answer in another podcast where you are in the hotseat answering this very question. There is you and a few other PK podcasters who are truthseekers and it you folks who I think are possible hope for a rich and a high potential country like PK - which has unfortunately been pillaged since centuries and more so since 1947. Cheers!!!
@@shayanmahmud6832 - Thank you for the courtesey of a response. It will help if you can give us their names or link/s to the same. I am truly curious. Thanks!!!
@@ShyamKumar-zb2mwno worries at all! Thanks for your feedback. I’ve been on Talha Ahad’s podcast and Naeem Sikander, Muzamil’s Thought Behind Things as well. 🙏
39:20 this is exactly why even Muslim of India are not prospering.. they disassociate themselves from the culture They are proud of the destroyers of the ancient cultures of the land but not the defenders of the land.. They love to follow mugal and specifically Aurangzeb who was a tyrant.. destroyed many temples.. and want to replicate the arab way of life not Indian But deny the non Muslim heros and try to defame them.. The same is not found in outger religions.. im a Indian Christian.. we have our own traditional values that are more Indian.. we don't claim to be Britishers or spanish or Europeans.. we have our own south india, manglorian, goan , north eastern diverse condition.. The same is case with Sikh, Parsi, etc.. We are Indian primarily.. the true so called minorities in are the most prosperous one . Eg top educated are 1st Jain 94% and 2nd Christian 84% and buddist 3rd 80% most wealthy are Sikh and Christian and Parsi.. earning per capita 2-3x of national per capita buddy when you are 14% or 25 cr and essentially the second or third largest Muslim nation.. don't call yourself minorities... you are essentially the second majority..
Hashir Ibn Irshad is good critic of economic, religious, social and educational flaws in our country. Now he is maintaining that in political debate as well.
Ur interviewee is Rational person and a Humanist. He said repeatedly thai Secularism is the best for Country's progress and the hold of mullahas bad. But how many people will agree to his vision? Good presentation. Thanks.
Pak, the only religion based state on the globe, was created by Brits to serve as a base for interventions in central Eurasia. Brits were well aware of Muslims being sentimental and politically very immature and that they could be easily used for imperial purposes. These colonizers wanted to extend western hegemony even after giving so called freedom. If one looks around the globe one can easily see that Britain and France have created about 50 such states through arbitrary divisions and partitions and many of these states are in conflict and war situations even today.. Muslim leaderships were in their pockets and the common people were ignorant and misled by slogans and crude emotionalism.
One of the most thought provoking & yet delightful conversation with Hashir Ibne Irshad Sahab.l.. ❤❤ Loved it. 🇮🇳🇮🇳 Everyone MUST listen to this episode. Please have him for another 10 episodes 🙏
Pakistan is a four player game. Judiciary, Army Chief, PMLN and PPP. To win this game, one needs to befriend three out of four. Imran Khan lost because he went against Army Chief, PMLN and PPP. People are just spectators and they can't do anything.
The day the apostasy law is abrogated in Islam. The following from Pakistan will leave this cult called Islam. 1. Parvez Hoodbhoy. 2. Syed Muzammil Shah. 3. Shabbar Zaidi. 4. Kaiser Bengali. 5. Aaliya Shah. 6. Arzoo Kazmi. Today i add H Ibne Irshad. And these are the only ones who can still save this place from the mess it is in.
Will of people matters but will of people in Pakistan is governed by religious bigotry. .faiz ahamad once asked will Pakistan cease to exist? He said no worse will happen it will continue to exist in hell. And in hell there is no death only infinite suffering.
China became rich because it became world’s factory.Australia stopped baking its bread and China had ships constantly hovering around Australia and baking bread for Australia!
Hashir Ibne Irshad using "Deep State" as the reason for Pakistan's failure seems hollow, unless he is euphemistically using the term to describe Pakistan's military complex. Most countries have a military for self preservation and protection. Pakistan has a military that owns the country! Unless the country is able to separate the military from its political structure, Pakistan will remain a failed state.
Honestly speaking this could have been a talk about India.Education is the only hope for our subcontinent and not this Zid which both of us possess in abundance.
SUPERB ANALYSIS. KUDOS. HOW CAN PAKISTAN NOW PROGRESS WITHOUT DOLLAR BOUNTIES COMING IN, IS BY CULTIVATING A CULTURE OF FREE MIND. INDIA, SAUDI, MALAYSIA, UAE, INDONESIA, IRAN, ALL NOW HAVE FREE MINDS. FREE MIND NADARAD, PROGRESS NADARAD.
Jinnah saheb wo vision he nhi rkhtay thay ! This is true k wo b aik dictator he thay..albata Nehru had tht certain political acumen indeed ! Aur Wqt ne abul kalaam azaad ki insight ko b sach saabit kr dikhaaya, Just imagin k 1947 ma pkstn bna,aur 1948 ma I.S.I. wajuud ma aachuki thi 🙃 Pkstn strt he as a deep state hoa..result yehi hona tha..bas pkstn k haq ma ya defence ma ab itna he kaha jasakta h k jb bna he diya gaya tau jitna b bna,jesa b bna,isi ko sanmbhaal liya jaata ! Pkstn ki taqseem b ghalt hoi..ye wali taqseem leni he nhi chahiye thi.
Vry serious topic indeed.. If we r a deepState,tht pkstn surely is frm the day one,tau phir kuch nhi hosakta,iss shikanjay se konci deep state jaan chura pai,shayad vietnam,aur vietnam ne barri qimat ada ki,aik tabahi se guzra,par survive kr gya,baaqi deep states tau rugardaani k padaash ma brbaad kr di gaeen,aur kr di jaati hen ! Hum seniors tau bitachukay apni,mojuda youth aur aanay waali generations bechaari ka kya bnay ga,soch kr dil kut jaata h ! So smjh nhi aata k kya kiya jaaey !?? Mazeed kuch kahnay ka yaara nhi....coz aagay total innihilation h..sad but thts wat it is ! NaUmidi kufr h but ye kufr hochuka...😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Sir, the length and counts of ur comments, also the quality indicate a person who identifies the correct issues and want to improve situation. Pls spk to like minded seniors and share ur opinions with as many youth as possible as they have the energy and you have the ideas to bring about change. Pakistan is on the verge of implosion and vulnerable to misuse by external and internal powers. only PPL like you can minimise, if not avoid the consequences. I donnot agree with guests aversion to inquilab. Unlike arab countries and like Bangladesh, Pakistan has a big enough civil society and intelligensia who can handle the post revolution disruption and setup new governance framework
Ye zaroori to nahi ki har monarch ya dictator ek benevolent dictator hi hoga, most of these systems fail because they are based on the whims and facies, arbitrariness of an individual or a group of individuals (inner circle). examples chahiye apko agar to aaj ka north korea dekh lijiye, china, russia dekh lijiye. har koi insaan jo powerful position me hai woh insaan usi power par apni giraft banaye rakhne me zyada pre-occupied hai, obsessed hai. use awaam ki takleefon se koi vaasta nahi hai. uske mutabik agar awaam ko do waqt ki roti mil jati hai to uska kaam khatma ho gaya isse aage ki unki soch nahi jati hai. awaam do waqt ki roti kamaane se aur bhi age ki soch rakhne wali cheez hai. agar awaam nahi to mulk hi nahi. aisi zehniyat rakhne wale siyasatdaan apko aise dictatorial mindset aur attitudes rakhne wale mulko me milenge hi nahi. isi liye despite of all its inherent shortcomings still democracy is the best option as of now. agar use replace karna hai to usse bhi behtar, robust option jo foolproof ho use ijaad karna hoga. jiske liye bhi apko awaam ko ilm dena hoga, use utni taqat deni hogi. kya iske liye apke paas political will hai? ya phir aap sab apne apne naslon ko aage badhakar ek dynastic politics jo ki bas ek feudalism based feifdom hai use banane me lage huye ho. faisla to awaam ko hi karna hai. aise me kya hota hai ki awaam apni sovereignty ko dilute karke hukumat ke haq me saunp deti hai. ab ye huqumat kaisi hai is par sara daromadar ban jata hai, kya woh people-centric hai ya poer-centric hai. aur agar power-centric hai to us power ka istemaal woh kis par karegi? usse wooh kya haail karna chahti hai? ye sab sochna hukumat banane se pehla awaam ka zimma hai. kyonki power me baithne wala to power milne ke baad awaam ko uske maslon ko bhul jayega aur apna feifdom banane me masroof ho jayega. bahut sensitive masle hai ye sab inhe lightly ya casually nahi liya ja sakta hai.
One thing I want to say that it is very easy to sit on the side and comment on the ongoing battles or battles in the past. The reality is that you do not have the time to see, assess, measure, rank all the variables before making decision in real time at a time where technology was non existent and people trusted each other greatly. The guy is not a historian and is simply grilling everyone. He cannot compare this age and time or people with people that existed at least 100 years back that were born as a slave country where British were the best. No aid and no status. Please stick to your specialty that is IT.
Hashir sahab ek sacche Insan hai WHY? Coz he didn't even once Said Insha Allah😊😊 Maine Aksar Dekha hai jo Insan Insha Allah boolta hai Usse maine Aksar Jhoota Aur Makkar Paaya hai😂😂
Yaar saaf bolo pakistan ke halat pak Army ke karan hei apne upar koi cheej ka iljam nahi leti govts ki balui chada dete hein. Imf ko pak Army ke budget ko ek tihai karna chahiye. Pak army ke sare bussinesses ko nationalized kar dena chah8ye. Ye Kam Imf hi kar sakta hei politicians nahi.
IN INDIA MUSLIMS ARE NEGLATED THAN HINDU, BUT NOT ONLY IN INDIA, EVEN IN USA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, SOUTH EAST AISA HINDUS R MORE ECONOMICALLY PROSPEROUS THAN MUSLIM. Even in 1947 HINDUS R MORE POLITICALY EDUCATIONALY ACTIVE. Muslims in INDIA MUST TAKE PRIDE THAT THEY HAVE INCREASED THEIR POPULATION.
Dude is trying so hard to prove prove that every problem is as clear as black and white (tough it is not), and the only solution is being secular by giving relevant examples. But in reality there are many grey debatable areas, and there are counter examples available in the history as well.
Hashir tum ne jo 2 baatain kahi hen aik aaeen aur doosri ye k hrr idaara apnay ambit ma rahay ..bas ye 2 baatain he hen...agr sirf inpar amlpaergi hojaey tau hum dvlp krjaen gay...basurat e deegar koi raasta nhi ! But phir wohi k ye karay ga kon ! ? Jb khoon mounh ko lg jaaey tau bohat mushkil almost namumkin hojata h...unless until koi bohat barra nuqsaan hojaey,aakhir pahlay pakistn do-lakht nhi hochuka ! Ye koi chotti baat nhi ! But koi sabaq nhi liya gaya ! Bhai pkstn toota tha...ab mazeed toot gya tau ! Shadid aham nuqta h ye !
Pahlay aap kpk kay distric he theak kar lain, aaj president bar nay session judge ko pressurized kia pmln kay aik member ki call ki waja say aur session judge nay cases mafia kay haq ma kar dia wasay sharam ka muqam ha judges and courts pay aur un ko pmln ki mafia run kar rahi ha..
Why don't we read the history and systems of different countries around the world? We form erroneous opinions based on limited knowledge. For example, Bangladesh was the model to follow a few years ago. Now, everyone is impressed by India and Saudi Arabia. What next?
@12dhruvpatel only time will tell. We, Pakistanis, have this inferiority complex in which we fantasise about other countries' success based on 1 or 2 aspects. Our understanding of the world is very limited. Our world is Europe and North America only.
@@sameermujeeb6129 we Indians are somewhat similar. But our mindset is always about being tolerant and giving respect to other communities and religion. Which made us better state than our neighbours.
@12dhruvpatel The secularism and inclusiveness of India are certainly in a much better shape compared to the other SA countries. I hope that this will continue
@@sameermujeeb6129 west doesn’t want india, Pakistan and Bangladesh to prosper because we can be biggest manufacturing hub of the world. That’s why west wants us divided.
Probably the most rational discussion on Pakistan I have heard. Thanks to the guest and also thanks to the host for inviting such a great guest.
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This guy is real gem. In making things crystal clear
Brilliant man and a lot of width in thinking … very educational …. Seen him in many podcast and every time get new inputs … Kudos
First time I ever Heard so intelligent voice from Pakistani, those who have knowledge about history, politics, economics. As an Indian I want to ask you to sperd his vision in allover pakistan.
The guest was exceptionally good(regret my lack of knowledge of him from before), but I was most impressed by your handling of the discussion. I haven't always agreed with how your previous discussions have been handled ( maybe a lack of domain expertise/knowledge to counter ), but absolute credit where it is due. No unnecessary interjection of opinion, allowing the guest to have his say fully. Imo, among the best hosted podcasts i have had the pleasure of viewing.
🙏🙏
Its really a treat to listen to the intellectual conversation by Hashir Ibn e Irshaad. He never disappoints me when it comes to rational thought. Would love to have more podcasts with him.
🙏🙏
🐫🐃🦍🐘🦬🦛🦣
Thirty year ago London, Paris, and other major European cities where neat, tidy, safe and beautiful cities. Today many areas in these cities have been converted into filthy and dangerous ghettos by Muslim immigrants from Pakistan , Bangladesh and a few other countries. The local Chritian people are afraid to live in these areas.
Brilliant discussion by guest with clarity and lots of analysis and finally let down for lack of solution. Abolish two nations theory, declare secularism, declare india as the MFN and unify defence forces to manage borders. India can then rub all positive vibes of our 10,000 years of culture, civilisation and ideas. Love of Bollywood is a clear example of what Pakistan want from their life. Next alternative is balkanisation which is better than the first. My take!!!
Mungerilal K Sapne.😂 2 Nation Theory Is Correct.👍
M0mins Can't Live With Any0ne. See, Sweden, France, UK, Belgium, Canada.😢
Very brutally accurate
Let us know if you enjoyed this content 🙏
Hey Shayan - your attempts to look for a chimera of optimism - in a sea of darkness was very cute - and frankly reeked of desperation. And like you questioned Irshad saab - I question you and your sanity on why you choose to come back to PK. I would definitely like to know your answer in another podcast where you are in the hotseat answering this very question.
There is you and a few other PK podcasters who are truthseekers and it you folks who I think are possible hope for a rich and a high potential country like PK - which has unfortunately been pillaged since centuries and more so since 1947. Cheers!!!
" since centuries... " 😳🥺🙄@@ShyamKumar-zb2mw
@@ShyamKumar-zb2mwI think I’ve given that answer on some podcasts when I’ve been on other channels. Check them out 🙏
Thanks for watching 🙌
@@shayanmahmud6832 - Thank you for the courtesey of a response. It will help if you can give us their names or link/s to the same. I am truly curious. Thanks!!!
@@ShyamKumar-zb2mwno worries at all! Thanks for your feedback.
I’ve been on Talha Ahad’s podcast and Naeem Sikander, Muzamil’s Thought Behind Things as well. 🙏
All thinkers are converging to the same conclusion. This is the only ray of hope for the nation.👍
39:20 this is exactly why even Muslim of India are not prospering.. they disassociate themselves from the culture
They are proud of the destroyers of the ancient cultures of the land but not the defenders of the land..
They love to follow mugal and specifically Aurangzeb who was a tyrant.. destroyed many temples.. and want to replicate the arab way of life not Indian
But deny the non Muslim heros and try to defame them..
The same is not found in outger religions.. im a Indian Christian.. we have our own traditional values that are more Indian.. we don't claim to be Britishers or spanish or Europeans.. we have our own south india, manglorian, goan , north eastern diverse condition..
The same is case with Sikh, Parsi, etc..
We are Indian primarily..
the true so called minorities in are the most prosperous one . Eg top educated are 1st Jain 94% and 2nd Christian 84% and buddist 3rd 80% most wealthy are Sikh and Christian and Parsi.. earning per capita 2-3x of national per capita
buddy when you are 14% or 25 cr and essentially the second or third largest Muslim nation.. don't call yourself minorities... you are essentially the second majority..
5 din me 10 se jyada muslimo ko mara ja chuka hai sirf cow ke naam par
lindu terrori🛕s ne mara hai wo to Aorangjeb ko hero nhi mante the
Hashir Ibn Irshad is good critic of economic, religious, social and educational flaws in our country. Now he is maintaining that in political debate as well.
Ur interviewee is Rational person and a Humanist.
He said repeatedly thai Secularism is the best for
Country's progress and the
hold of mullahas bad.
But how many people will agree to his vision?
Good presentation.
Thanks.
A good intellectual and rational discussion bereft of any political or religion biased interpretation. Thanks to the host and the guest.
After so many years seeing a person with so much rational thinking. Pak needs such type of mental Calibre person more to rise .
Pak, the only religion based state on the globe, was created by Brits to serve as a base for interventions in central Eurasia. Brits were well aware of Muslims being sentimental and politically very immature and that they could be easily used for imperial purposes. These colonizers wanted to extend western hegemony even after giving so called freedom.
If one looks around the globe one can easily see that Britain and France have created about 50 such states through arbitrary divisions and partitions and many of these states are in conflict and war situations even today..
Muslim leaderships were in their pockets and the common people were ignorant and misled by slogans and crude emotionalism.
One of the most thought provoking & yet delightful conversation with Hashir Ibne Irshad Sahab.l..
❤❤ Loved it. 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Everyone MUST listen to this episode.
Please have him for another 10 episodes 🙏
When will humanity realize that we will always find things to divide ourselves and that unity in diversity is what makes us stronger
Very good n intellectual podcast. Pakistan has few very honest thinker like you.
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“State holders policy nahi bana sakte or jo mulaazim hain unke hath mein ikhtyarat hain”👏🏼👏🏼 👏🏼
I would suggest Hashir sahab to read Shah Wali Ullah literature about the Political, Economical and Social system of Islam and much more
Big respect to the Guest.
a wise man ,,, a rarity in Pakistan ... preserve him ... all the best from India
Excellent discussion,keep it up.
Wise words ❤
Very informative and interesting. Thanks.
Hi Shayan... Really enjoyed listening to the the guest and his logical answers. I wish you and Pakistan the best.. :) from India :)
Forgot to mention... I am from India :)
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Pakistan is a four player game. Judiciary, Army Chief, PMLN and PPP. To win this game, one needs to befriend three out of four. Imran Khan lost because he went against Army Chief, PMLN and PPP. People are just spectators and they can't do anything.
The day the apostasy law is abrogated in Islam. The following from Pakistan will leave this cult called Islam.
1. Parvez Hoodbhoy.
2. Syed Muzammil Shah.
3. Shabbar Zaidi.
4. Kaiser Bengali.
5. Aaliya Shah.
6. Arzoo Kazmi.
Today i add H Ibne Irshad. And these are the only ones who can still save this place from the mess it is in.
Will of people matters but will of people in Pakistan is governed by religious bigotry. .faiz ahamad once asked will Pakistan cease to exist? He said no worse will happen it will continue to exist in hell. And in hell there is no death only infinite suffering.
Imressed by clarity of thought
Behtreen, bohat he alaaa.
China became rich because it became world’s factory.Australia stopped baking its bread and China had ships constantly hovering around Australia and baking bread for Australia!
If this type of school of thoughts prevail in Pakistan there can be peace in subcontinent
Hashir Ibne Irshad using "Deep State" as the reason for Pakistan's failure seems hollow, unless he is euphemistically using the term to describe Pakistan's military complex.
Most countries have a military for self preservation and protection. Pakistan has a military that owns the country! Unless the country is able to separate the military from its political structure, Pakistan will remain a failed state.
He is lying.
Thanks
Honestly speaking this could have been a talk about India.Education is the only hope for our subcontinent and not this Zid which both of us possess in abundance.
SUPERB ANALYSIS. KUDOS. HOW CAN PAKISTAN NOW PROGRESS WITHOUT DOLLAR BOUNTIES COMING IN, IS BY CULTIVATING A CULTURE OF FREE MIND. INDIA, SAUDI, MALAYSIA, UAE, INDONESIA, IRAN, ALL NOW HAVE FREE MINDS. FREE MIND NADARAD, PROGRESS NADARAD.
Jinnah saheb wo vision he nhi rkhtay thay ! This is true k wo b aik dictator he thay..albata Nehru had tht certain political acumen indeed ! Aur Wqt ne abul kalaam azaad ki insight ko b sach saabit kr dikhaaya, Just imagin k 1947 ma pkstn bna,aur 1948 ma I.S.I. wajuud ma aachuki thi 🙃
Pkstn strt he as a deep state hoa..result yehi hona tha..bas pkstn k haq ma ya defence ma ab itna he kaha jasakta h k jb bna he diya gaya tau jitna b bna,jesa b bna,isi ko sanmbhaal liya jaata ! Pkstn ki taqseem b ghalt hoi..ye wali taqseem leni he nhi chahiye thi.
Vry serious topic indeed..
If we r a deepState,tht pkstn surely is frm the day one,tau phir kuch nhi hosakta,iss shikanjay se konci deep state jaan chura pai,shayad vietnam,aur vietnam ne barri qimat ada ki,aik tabahi se guzra,par survive kr gya,baaqi deep states tau rugardaani k padaash ma brbaad kr di gaeen,aur kr di jaati hen ! Hum seniors tau bitachukay apni,mojuda youth aur aanay waali generations bechaari ka kya bnay ga,soch kr dil kut jaata h ! So smjh nhi aata k kya kiya jaaey !?? Mazeed kuch kahnay ka yaara nhi....coz aagay total innihilation h..sad but thts wat it is !
NaUmidi kufr h but ye kufr hochuka...😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Sir, the length and counts of ur comments, also the quality indicate a person who identifies the correct issues and want to improve situation. Pls spk to like minded seniors and share ur opinions with as many youth as possible as they have the energy and you have the ideas to bring about change. Pakistan is on the verge of implosion and vulnerable to misuse by external and internal powers. only PPL like you can minimise, if not avoid the consequences. I donnot agree with guests aversion to inquilab. Unlike arab countries and like Bangladesh, Pakistan has a big enough civil society and intelligensia who can handle the post revolution disruption and setup new governance framework
BHAI JI AND SIR JI 🙏🏻🙏🏻.MERE KHAYAL SE INDIA AND PAKISTAN KO SIRF BELAGAM RELIGION NE HI BARBAD KIYA HAI.
What you guys aspect from thieves?
Ye zaroori to nahi ki har monarch ya dictator ek benevolent dictator hi hoga, most of these systems fail because they are based on the whims and facies, arbitrariness of an individual or a group of individuals (inner circle). examples chahiye apko agar to aaj ka north korea dekh lijiye, china, russia dekh lijiye. har koi insaan jo powerful position me hai woh insaan usi power par apni giraft banaye rakhne me zyada pre-occupied hai, obsessed hai. use awaam ki takleefon se koi vaasta nahi hai. uske mutabik agar awaam ko do waqt ki roti mil jati hai to uska kaam khatma ho gaya isse aage ki unki soch nahi jati hai. awaam do waqt ki roti kamaane se aur bhi age ki soch rakhne wali cheez hai. agar awaam nahi to mulk hi nahi. aisi zehniyat rakhne wale siyasatdaan apko aise dictatorial mindset aur attitudes rakhne wale mulko me milenge hi nahi. isi liye despite of all its inherent shortcomings still democracy is the best option as of now. agar use replace karna hai to usse bhi behtar, robust option jo foolproof ho use ijaad karna hoga. jiske liye bhi apko awaam ko ilm dena hoga, use utni taqat deni hogi. kya iske liye apke paas political will hai? ya phir aap sab apne apne naslon ko aage badhakar ek dynastic politics jo ki bas ek feudalism based feifdom hai use banane me lage huye ho. faisla to awaam ko hi karna hai. aise me kya hota hai ki awaam apni sovereignty ko dilute karke hukumat ke haq me saunp deti hai. ab ye huqumat kaisi hai is par sara daromadar ban jata hai, kya woh people-centric hai ya poer-centric hai. aur agar power-centric hai to us power ka istemaal woh kis par karegi? usse wooh kya haail karna chahti hai? ye sab sochna hukumat banane se pehla awaam ka zimma hai. kyonki power me baithne wala to power milne ke baad awaam ko uske maslon ko bhul jayega aur apna feifdom banane me masroof ho jayega. bahut sensitive masle hai ye sab inhe lightly ya casually nahi liya ja sakta hai.
Fantastic! Another gem. Candid views expressed by the guest. Keep it up.
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Short and sweet sir… 👌
Glad you liked it
One thing I want to say that it is very easy to sit on the side and comment on the ongoing battles or battles in the past. The reality is that you do not have the time to see, assess, measure, rank all the variables before making decision in real time at a time where technology was non existent and people trusted each other greatly. The guy is not a historian and is simply grilling everyone. He cannot compare this age and time or people with people that existed at least 100 years back that were born as a slave country where British were the best. No aid and no status. Please stick to your specialty that is IT.
it's obvious that India's founders were prepared and pak's were running in lies and fear
Hashir sahab ek sacche Insan hai WHY?
Coz he didn't even once Said Insha Allah😊😊
Maine Aksar Dekha hai jo Insan Insha Allah boolta hai Usse maine Aksar Jhoota Aur Makkar Paaya hai😂😂
Yaar saaf bolo pakistan ke halat pak Army ke karan hei apne upar koi cheej ka iljam nahi leti govts ki balui chada dete hein.
Imf ko pak Army ke budget ko ek tihai karna chahiye. Pak army ke sare bussinesses ko nationalized kar dena chah8ye. Ye Kam Imf hi kar sakta hei politicians nahi.
Very informative ❤❤❤
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IN INDIA MUSLIMS ARE NEGLATED THAN HINDU, BUT NOT ONLY IN INDIA, EVEN IN USA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, SOUTH EAST AISA HINDUS R MORE ECONOMICALLY PROSPEROUS THAN MUSLIM. Even in 1947 HINDUS R MORE POLITICALY EDUCATIONALY ACTIVE. Muslims in INDIA MUST TAKE PRIDE THAT THEY HAVE INCREASED THEIR POPULATION.
حکومت اگر روزگار نہیں دے سکتی تو کم از کم انٹرنیٹ تو دے۔
Dude is trying so hard to prove prove that every problem is as clear as black and white (tough it is not), and the only solution is being secular by giving relevant examples. But in reality there are many grey debatable areas, and there are counter examples available in the history as well.
Very surprising to hear this person's views. Wonder if he lives in Pakistan or abroad?
Hashir tum ne jo 2 baatain kahi hen aik aaeen aur doosri ye k hrr idaara apnay ambit ma rahay ..bas ye 2 baatain he hen...agr sirf inpar amlpaergi hojaey tau hum dvlp krjaen gay...basurat e deegar koi raasta nhi ! But phir wohi k ye karay ga kon ! ? Jb khoon mounh ko lg jaaey tau bohat mushkil almost namumkin hojata h...unless until koi bohat barra nuqsaan hojaey,aakhir pahlay pakistn do-lakht nhi hochuka ! Ye koi chotti baat nhi ! But koi sabaq nhi liya gaya ! Bhai pkstn toota tha...ab mazeed toot gya tau ! Shadid aham nuqta h ye !
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Sir 45 times bigger than Pakistan reserves
1:02:00 bhai 500 nahi 15 Gina de
Metaphor samajho bhai
@@12dhruvpatel sahi baat hai metaphor pe hi desh chal raha hai.
Pahlay aap kpk kay distric he theak kar lain, aaj president bar nay session judge ko pressurized kia pmln kay aik member ki call ki waja say aur session judge nay cases mafia kay haq ma kar dia wasay sharam ka muqam ha judges and courts pay aur un ko pmln ki mafia run kar rahi ha..
Wow great parson muslim smaj ase logo ko glorify kyu nhi kr paata h redical ko thekedari turnt de deta h
Why don't we read the history and systems of different countries around the world? We form erroneous opinions based on limited knowledge. For example, Bangladesh was the model to follow a few years ago. Now, everyone is impressed by India and Saudi Arabia. What next?
He’s not asking you to follow any model. He’s saying how other countries evolved when they become secular and improved their administration.
@12dhruvpatel only time will tell. We, Pakistanis, have this inferiority complex in which we fantasise about other countries' success based on 1 or 2 aspects. Our understanding of the world is very limited. Our world is Europe and North America only.
@@sameermujeeb6129 we Indians are somewhat similar. But our mindset is always about being tolerant and giving respect to other communities and religion. Which made us better state than our neighbours.
@12dhruvpatel The secularism and inclusiveness of India are certainly in a much better shape compared to the other SA countries. I hope that this will continue
@@sameermujeeb6129 west doesn’t want india, Pakistan and Bangladesh to prosper because we can be biggest manufacturing hub of the world. That’s why west wants us divided.
He is an Army Stooge.
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At 01:00:05 mic 🎤 drop moment 🫡