Yes ooo I was shock when the old man said in the other video that Lamurudu the father of Oodua was Oranfe son. That Oranmiyan was a grandson of Oranfe as well. People have been spreading fake news all this years
Quite revealing! I'm an Owu man from Abeokuta, however, I equally have a village called Ejio-Olufe. I've always wanted to know where the name Ejio emanates from. This work has greatly helped in my quest. Many thanks 🎉
If I may add this for record purpose to the on going discussion about Ọranfẹ. In 1898, about the third time that White European Christianity was again re-introduced to the City-State Kingdom of Ile-Ife, these people requested for some land to erect a building for their congregation in the name of their religion, my great grandfather, His Majesty the Deity King, Alayeluwa Ọba Adelẹkan Olubuse response was that "Ọranfẹ a binu", Baba Agba (Kabiyesi) said that they can only be allowed to worship their god in the virgin land called Iyekere-Igbo, Ile-Ifẹ in those days. This singular act alone tells how much Ọranfẹ is hold in the highest esteem by the entire Ootu people and most especially the Deity King Himself. Regular Signed, Olubuse III Sunday, October 20, 2024
That Iyekere you mentioned is the origin of my town Iye-Ekiti in today's Ilejemeje Local Government in Ekiti State, it was changed from Iyekere to Iye-Ekiti after they became very big over a thousand years ago before they were affected by the war... And our own type of Ekiti dialect is the closest to Ife dialect, it a bit different from the general Ekiti dialect. They changed the name purposely because they were no longer small as the name denoted. The population should be running toward over 15,000 to 20,000 or even more.
Ife ikedu traditions claim oranfe was much older than oduduwa,he was once a very ancient king of what we now know has ile ife,oduduwa took his inspiration and revolution from oranfe.
My perspective on this video, as well as the other one, revolves around Oodua/Lamurudu. Take a look at the other video featuring the elderly man stating that Lamurudu, the father of Oodua, was born to Oranfe.... even Oranmiyan received the from-name from Oranfe. 💯
The man is only trying to give honour and superiority to his household ancestor. But you still need to do more findings from the people who have those ancestral shrines in ile ife and I'm sure most of these things will be clear to u. Because ifa confirmed oduduwa as someone sent from Olodumare to filled the earth with sand and spread it. And the chain ⛓️ which oduduwa used to descended from heaven is still in it shrine till today.
He's saying the truth about oduduwa story , according to Ife history Obatala is baba Arugbo, older than all of them how come oranfe is older than Obatala
Go and read about ancient Egyptian god Ra. It's same Oranfe... though Europeans have corrupted the story a bit. But you can make connection with this historian narrative. They call him Sun god with power of fire.
Yoruba history is complex. With this explantation, it is safe to conclude that Ora is the father of Yoruba race and not Oduduwa. We need a commission to truly capture our past. I salute your intervention,Sir.
Exactly the point. I've always been of the opinion that Oduduwa was a "civilizer"of the Yoruba race not the progenitor. The only problem is that some Ifa corpus said Oduduwa was the founder bla bla bla, but I think those were taken too literally thereby causing confusion.
Good job sir. But I thought Obatala was the great grandfather of Obamakin who lived in the era of Oduduwa. I believe Obatala had lived thousands years before Oduduwa.
Oramfe bi Jeye, Jeye bi Oduduwa, Oduduwa bi Obamakin (aka Obalufon Ogbogbodinrin). The person you are referring to, Obatala is a contemporary of Oduduwa, who was mixed with Orisanla who is way older than Oduduwa. Orisanla and Obatala are two separate beings.
But sir, they descended not just from the hills. At least they came from somewhere. We don't have change or bend our history to make it acceptable or fit popular beliefs. A lot of history was excavated by Britain and moved out of Nigeria. What's in those records fit what we claimed that Orunmila, Oranfe and others Irunmoles descended. And the location is not even near or within modern yorubaland but in central Nigeria. That was thousands and thousands of years ago. Problem is that we aren't looking around for the history we lost. Oranfe in ancient Egypt is known as Ra, whom they also call Sun-God with power of fire. Though European egyptologists have added a lot of misconception to the narrative. Maybe you are talking about a human reincarnate of the earliest Oranfe.
@@efunkunleolalekan8304Surely not. I believe that hill was just named after Ora. The location would be in the vicinity of the location of Ife Oodaye, the first Ife Dynasty in days of the Irunmoles. It's surely not modern Ife. It's in another part of Nigeria. We will know the day we care for the history we lost. Especially the ones the British Empire excavated and took out of Nigeria.
@@ADE-of-LAGOS its the same place. Ife became smaller, but its that same location. The name change is as a result of change in leadership. There has been 3 dynasties. Carbon dating has shown that it is that same location
With all due respect for this gentleman,I disagree totally with his narrative account of our history ,Aramofe is one of the sixteen elders known as Odumerindinlogu,and Eji ogbe is their father,Irete is the mother,Aramofe was the fourth son in that line,they were mentioned in the book revelation in the Bible and were referred to as 24-elders and four living souls, everyone should check it, lastly non of them live up till 18 century,these people live their life's at the beginning of time.
Obviously, many of our forefathers are Annunakis based on old Sumerian text , but their names were different in Yoruba mythology. His narratives corroborate with other studies. We should not limit ourself to religions and the so called acclaim holy books.
I quite agree with you on the links of these progenitors to the ANUNAKI. All the attributes ascribed to ORANFE are such as possessed by Anki and Enlil etc. Big kudos for this great work.
Glad that some yorubas are opening their eyes to these facts. It's too obvious. Orunmila was named Anki and Esu was named Enlil. Oyinbo don craze. But Oyinbo said that the Annunakis stories happened in Iraq or somewhere in middle-east.
Igbo ora wa ni ikoja Abeokuta Lona eruwa.
Good job sir
Very articulate explanation
Thank you for your kind words.
May God grant you long life sir. We need to rewrite our history sir. Oduduwa was born and brought up in ile - Ife .
Thank you for your kind words. Blessings!
Yes ooo I was shock when the old man said in the other video that Lamurudu the father of Oodua was Oranfe son. That Oranmiyan was a grandson of Oranfe as well. People have been spreading fake news all this years
Odùduwà wasn't born, Odùduwà came with ẹ̀wọ̀n that's why is called Odùduwà atewonro
Weldone bruh
Ekuse sir. Ejo, e je ki a bere lati ipinle Yoruba. Blessings and peace 🤍
A ṣẹ̀ṣẹ̀ ń mú ẹyẹ bọ̀ lápò ni. Àwọn àbájáde ìfọ̀rọ̀wáni-lẹ́nu-wò mìíràn ń bọ̀ láìpẹ́ lórí ìpìlẹ̀ Yorùbá.
Àṣẹ!
Quite revealing! I'm an Owu man from Abeokuta, however, I equally have a village called Ejio-Olufe. I've always wanted to know where the name Ejio emanates from. This work has greatly helped in my quest. Many thanks 🎉
Pleased this could help you. Thank you for the kind word.
Ejio is the Head of Moore quarter in ile ife. The oldest compound in ife .
@@bodethomas7791Moore? Any connection to the Moors?
Eledumare a fikun ogbon yin oooo,ile ife agbe wa ooooo.
Àṣẹ Èdùmàrè!
Iṣẹ́ biribiri🎉❤
If I may add this for record purpose to the on going discussion about Ọranfẹ. In 1898, about the third time that White European Christianity was again re-introduced to the City-State Kingdom of Ile-Ife, these people requested for some land to erect a building for their congregation in the name of their religion, my great grandfather, His Majesty the Deity King, Alayeluwa Ọba Adelẹkan Olubuse response was that "Ọranfẹ a binu", Baba Agba (Kabiyesi) said that they can only be allowed to worship their god in the virgin land called Iyekere-Igbo, Ile-Ifẹ in those days. This singular act alone tells how much Ọranfẹ is hold in the highest esteem by the entire Ootu people and most especially the Deity King Himself.
Regular Signed,
Olubuse III
Sunday, October 20, 2024
Thank you for this record.
Àgbà ò ní tán lórí ilẹ̀. Á jú ṣe o.
That Iyekere you mentioned is the origin of my town Iye-Ekiti in today's Ilejemeje Local Government in Ekiti State, it was changed from Iyekere to Iye-Ekiti after they became very big over a thousand years ago before they were affected by the war... And our own type of Ekiti dialect is the closest to Ife dialect, it a bit different from the general Ekiti dialect.
They changed the name purposely because they were no longer small as the name denoted. The population should be running toward over 15,000 to 20,000 or even more.
Ẹkú isẹ́ ọpọlọ. This is so informative!
A dúpẹ́ o. Thanks for your kind words.
Ife ikedu traditions claim oranfe was much older than oduduwa,he was once a very ancient king of what we now know has ile ife,oduduwa took his inspiration and revolution from oranfe.
My perspective on this video, as well as the other one, revolves around Oodua/Lamurudu. Take a look at the other video featuring the elderly man stating that Lamurudu, the father of Oodua, was born to Oranfe.... even Oranmiyan received the from-name from Oranfe. 💯
The man is only trying to give honour and superiority to his household ancestor. But you still need to do more findings from the people who have those ancestral shrines in ile ife and I'm sure most of these things will be clear to u. Because ifa confirmed oduduwa as someone sent from Olodumare to filled the earth with sand and spread it. And the chain ⛓️ which oduduwa used to descended from heaven is still in it shrine till today.
Since u know that,go n do ur own findings n make ur own content now,since u are more intelligent more than anyone.
He's saying the truth about oduduwa story , according to Ife history Obatala is baba Arugbo, older than all of them how come oranfe is older than Obatala
That's not Oduduwa, God sent Obala
We have made further enquiries. They will be out on this channel soon. Blessings!
Go and read about ancient Egyptian god Ra. It's same Oranfe... though Europeans have corrupted the story a bit. But you can make connection with this historian narrative. They call him Sun god with power of fire.
Good job sir 👍
Thank you for the kind words.
O ku isẹ ọpọlọ!
Iru Awon Itan to ye Kia ma gbo leleyi lati le fi itan Yoruba mulę….
Bẹ́ẹ̀ ni. Olódùmarè á ràn wá lọ́wọ́ láti tẹ̀ síwájú mú púpọ̀ irú rẹ̀ wá. Àṣẹ!
Yoruba history is complex. With this explantation, it is safe to conclude that Ora is the father of Yoruba race and not Oduduwa. We need a commission to truly capture our past. I salute your intervention,Sir.
Exactly the point. I've always been of the opinion that Oduduwa was a "civilizer"of the Yoruba race not the progenitor. The only problem is that some Ifa corpus said Oduduwa was the founder bla bla bla, but I think those were taken too literally thereby causing confusion.
Please, what is the name of this gentleman and his location?
The shrine is Ilẹ̀-Ifẹ̀. I believe that is what you're asking.
So what was the relationship between Oranfe and Oduduwa? Why is Oduduwa more pronounced in Yorubaland than Oranfe?
Aroba ni baba itan . E ku se takuntakun ....
Eku iee o, opolo yin oni jubao. Oramfe koni agba, oseremogbo ni agba ohun naa ni won npe ni obala kisise obatala
dogg Oranfe is the #1 leader. ask ooni of ife
Thank you 🎉🎉🎉
Pleased!
Good job sir.
But I thought Obatala was the great grandfather of Obamakin who lived in the era of Oduduwa.
I believe Obatala had lived thousands years before Oduduwa.
Obatala wasn't a person ,ala means earth and sky from igbo .but oba is a person who an ancestor of oduduwa
Oramfe bi Jeye, Jeye bi Oduduwa, Oduduwa bi Obamakin (aka Obalufon Ogbogbodinrin). The person you are referring to, Obatala is a contemporary of Oduduwa, who was mixed with Orisanla who is way older than Oduduwa. Orisanla and Obatala are two separate beings.
@@kingc1198 Oduwa, not Oduduwa
@LewisMuturi-b7u back then people usually have more than 1 way of saying their name so you and I are both right
That’s a lie. Oranfe the father of Obamakin and grandfather of Oduduwa has the old man narrative in the other video
Alaafia se a ni
Ire ni o.
This is story of Ile Ife, not Yoruba
Are the Yorùbá not from Ilẹ̀-Ifẹ̀?
But sir, they descended not just from the hills. At least they came from somewhere. We don't have change or bend our history to make it acceptable or fit popular beliefs. A lot of history was excavated by Britain and moved out of Nigeria. What's in those records fit what we claimed that Orunmila, Oranfe and others Irunmoles descended. And the location is not even near or within modern yorubaland but in central Nigeria. That was thousands and thousands of years ago. Problem is that we aren't looking around for the history we lost. Oranfe in ancient Egypt is known as Ra, whom they also call Sun-God with power of fire. Though European egyptologists have added a lot of misconception to the narrative.
Maybe you are talking about a human reincarnate of the earliest Oranfe.
They cane from the Oke Ora hills that surrounded Ife
@@efunkunleolalekan8304Surely not. I believe that hill was just named after Ora. The location would be in the vicinity of the location of Ife Oodaye, the first Ife Dynasty in days of the Irunmoles. It's surely not modern Ife. It's in another part of Nigeria. We will know the day we care for the history we lost. Especially the ones the British Empire excavated and took out of Nigeria.
@@ADE-of-LAGOS its the same place. Ife became smaller, but its that same location. The name change is as a result of change in leadership. There has been 3 dynasties. Carbon dating has shown that it is that same location
Stop relating or attaching Yoruba history with Jew and Europe
@@LewisMuturi-b7u god bless you. I don’t know what this obsession with Egypt and the middle east is all about.
Eku ise takuntakun sugbon tani obi awon iyawo mesesan ati ibi ti won ti wa ati eniti obi awon obi awon naa se oranfe na ni baba abi won koni
Ẹ ṣeun fún ìbéèrè yín.
À ń ṣe iṣẹ́ ìwádìí tẹ̀ síwájú lórí Ọ̀rànfẹ̀. A ó gbé àwọn àbájáde wọ̀nyí jáde láìpẹ́. Ire ni o.
Oranfe and his wives are as Adam and Hauwa (Adam and Eve). We don't ask for parents of those that were created but born.
With all due respect for this gentleman,I disagree totally with his narrative account of our history ,Aramofe is one of the sixteen elders known as Odumerindinlogu,and Eji ogbe is their father,Irete is the mother,Aramofe was the fourth son in that line,they were mentioned in the book revelation in the Bible and were referred to as 24-elders and four living souls, everyone should check it, lastly non of them live up till 18 century,these people live their life's at the beginning of time.
Take that your BULLSHIT Bible fake story back into your stinking ass
Am not sure the man is all right nah nonsense he deh talk
To my opinion, I would like to unapologetically say Yorubas are isrealites
@@ThomasJoseph-iw5rs Ori e ti daru, (Yoruba is already on planet thousand years b4 thier Abraham was born)
O darukọ Obamakin. Ipò wo lo wa nínú ẹbí?Kini orúkọ ìyá Obamakin Ọsángangan? E kú iṣẹ!
Omo oduduwa bi Obamakin, oun naa ni wan pe ni Obalufe Ogbogbodinrin. Oranfe lo bi Jeye, Jeye ni baba Oduduwa.
No, Oranfe lo bi Obamakin. Obamakin ati oduduwa rivals ni won.
@@bodethomas7791 Good! You are right. I want to think he's the first son of Orange. Am I right?
@@bodethomas7791 I will refer you to the full Oriki of Olufon. I can send you a copy if you want.
@@efunkunleolalekan8304 Onisokuso ni e
Obviously, many of our forefathers are Annunakis based on old Sumerian text , but their names were different in Yoruba mythology. His narratives corroborate with other studies. We should not limit ourself to religions and the so called acclaim holy books.
I quite agree with you on the links of these progenitors to the ANUNAKI. All the attributes ascribed to ORANFE are such as possessed by Anki and Enlil etc.
Big kudos for this great work.
Glad that some yorubas are opening their eyes to these facts. It's too obvious. Orunmila was named Anki and Esu was named Enlil. Oyinbo don craze. But Oyinbo said that the Annunakis stories happened in Iraq or somewhere in middle-east.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH OBATALA THIS MAN IS TALKING ABOUT? HE'S CONFUSING IRUNMOLE TO ÒRÌṢÀ.