In the early 80s, as a fresh-faced 18-year-old, id frequent the Hacienda (Thursday, Friday, Saturday nights were best) In fact, I was so fresh-faced I became a member (photo membership card which I still have ) my reasoning if i had the proof of my age I wouldn't be turned away LOL! i needn't have worried.. door policy was pretty "relaxed" in the early days ... they were glad of the custom. I once attended (1983) a gig by Scottish Band Set The Tone .. there was only 10 people in the audience... Set The Tone still went for it! you have to remember back then, the dress code for most Manchester clubs would have been trousers, shirt, and shoes so a club where pretty much anything went was a breath of fresh air. The music policy was also pretty eclectric. Of course, this was many years before the Madchester/Rave scene got a hold on the Hac. Where else on a UK dance floor would you have heard The B-Boys, 2- 3 Break segued into Glenn Millers, In The Mood into some random Bauhaus? Despite the acoustics, it was a great venue for live bands ... there are many that escape me just now but I've seen lots play the Hacienda. I've seen New Order, Paul Haig, Section 25, erasure, Bambbatta, and Soul Sonic Force, Cabaret Voltaire, Newtrement and many more .... Does anybody remember the Claude Bessy Video mashups on the screens above the dance floor? Japanese anime, old cartoons, B movie science fiction, Russ Meyer clips, etc ... Bessy was years ahead of his time. Trying to recall the last time I visited ...I can't put a date on it but remember seeing Grandmaster Flash play in the basement towards the end. What I'd give to go back for one night!
My enduring memory of the Hacienda is the first ‘Hot’ night when they had a small pool at the side of the dance floor and a Wheel of Fortune on the stage. I think it was Bernard Manning who span the wheel and it landed on ‘free drink for everybody’. The whole crowd surged left towards the bar as one. It cost them a fortune.
All I can say is, and no one ever seems to mention it-though Liam kind of did-the people and faces that filled that dance floor weren’t into bands. The Mondays were nobody until they decided to capture the acid house scene with Rave On and Oakie. It was a South Manchester club scene: The Gallery, Kitchen, The Russell, Spinners. Noel, was a Thursday night head, which we called “ The Ted’s” I never saw hooky in there. Always in his Dry Bar getting hammered
Loving these audio videos. Wish there were pictures to go with them but that’s ok. Joy Division/NewOrder basically inspired what would be known as Rave Culture. I was late to the mix. I got into Joy Division last year...but was always a fan on New Order. Had no idea JD became New Order. I was late to the rave culture. For me it started in 95. I’m 47 now. These audio videos opened up all the insider context that I had no idea about.
Bruce McKay Britain in the early to mid 80's was pretty grim mate. Manchester was industrial and grim, pre the regeneration that started in the 90's. The Hacienda was totally out of place in the 80's, they were trying to recreate New York's hedonistic nightlife in their home town. Like everyone says, the Hac was like a spaceship that had landed, it was so out of sync with it's surroundings. When the rave scene kicked off in late '87 though, Manchester had a a perfect venue ready and waiting.
@@MichaelBennett1 I agree with that but they made some bad decisions which cost the band a lot of money. At one point all the members of New Order were in danger of losing their homes. Tony Wilson was a great abstract thinker but his notions didn't always work in the real world. Gretton definitely helped pick the band up and got them going in the right direction after the demise of Joy Division.
I wish there were pictures of the club for this RUclips version of the pod.
In the early 80s, as a fresh-faced 18-year-old, id frequent the Hacienda (Thursday, Friday, Saturday nights were best) In fact, I was so fresh-faced I became a member (photo membership card which I still have ) my reasoning if i had the proof of my age I wouldn't be turned away LOL! i needn't have worried.. door policy was pretty "relaxed" in the early days ... they were glad of the custom.
I once attended (1983) a gig by Scottish Band Set The Tone .. there was only 10 people in the audience... Set The Tone still went for it! you have to remember back then, the dress code for most Manchester clubs would have been trousers, shirt, and shoes so a club where pretty much anything went was a breath of fresh air. The music policy was also pretty eclectric. Of course, this was many years before the Madchester/Rave scene got a hold on the Hac. Where else on a UK dance floor would you have heard The B-Boys, 2- 3 Break segued into Glenn Millers, In The Mood into some random Bauhaus?
Despite the acoustics, it was a great venue for live bands ... there are many that escape me just now but I've seen lots play the Hacienda. I've seen New Order, Paul Haig, Section 25, erasure, Bambbatta, and Soul Sonic Force, Cabaret Voltaire, Newtrement and many more .... Does anybody remember the Claude Bessy Video mashups on the screens above the dance floor? Japanese anime, old cartoons, B movie science fiction, Russ Meyer clips, etc ... Bessy was years ahead of his time. Trying to recall the last time I visited ...I can't put a date on it but remember seeing Grandmaster Flash play in the basement towards the end. What I'd give to go back for one night!
Someone please find me a time machine to go there.
My enduring memory of the Hacienda is the first ‘Hot’ night when they had a small pool at the side of the dance floor and a Wheel of Fortune on the stage. I think it was Bernard Manning who span the wheel and it landed on ‘free drink for everybody’. The whole crowd surged left towards
the bar as one. It cost them a fortune.
These brilliant pods just crack me up, Gillian's laughing, couldn't even get entry into the club she part owned because of lookalike sis.
A piece of music history that will never be like this again - unique!
It was unique. Until the next 'unique' comes along.
“My idea” at 34:40 was sampled in “Loved It” by The Other Two.
All I can say is, and no one ever seems to mention it-though Liam kind of did-the people and faces that filled that dance floor weren’t into bands. The Mondays were nobody until they decided to capture the acid house scene with Rave On and Oakie. It was a South Manchester club scene: The Gallery, Kitchen, The Russell, Spinners. Noel, was a Thursday night head, which we called “ The Ted’s” I never saw hooky in there. Always in his Dry Bar getting hammered
what a cool series, cheers darlings!
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Loving these audio videos. Wish there were pictures to go with them but that’s ok. Joy Division/NewOrder basically inspired what would be known as Rave Culture. I was late to the mix. I got into Joy Division last year...but was always a fan on New Order. Had no idea JD became New Order. I was late to the rave culture. For me it started in 95. I’m 47 now. These audio videos opened up all the insider context that I had no idea about.
Hoping We Get A Season 2 🖤
What is the song playing from 35:10, is it a remix of Touched by the hand of God?
Yep. Touched by the hand of God - Biff & Memphis remix
@@tjratcliffe6734 thanks, love that remix!
Me and Mrs. Jones. Thanks for the video.
If possible, I would be grateful if you could support Japanese translated subtitles.
12 commercials that arent even timed to sensible gaps. TRUE PUNK ETHIC
Scroll to the end & hit replay! I read a comment on ep5 and tried it. Advert free podcast
What is the song starting at 16:39
Found it, it's New Order - Lonesome Tonight - Live at The Hacienda, 20 July 1983
ryuichi sakamoto shoutout
FAC 51 ------ an important acronym for fans
Zumbar Night - 50p pints and tequilas. Stevie Starr swallowing goldfish. Epic times
They should of had a recording studio in reality, it would have made the cost of producing songs a lot cheaper
I think pretty much everyone wanted a recording studio other than Tony, as he always went with his heart rather than his head, god bless him.
Damn... sucks living on the other side of the world in the 1980s....
Bruce McKay
Britain in the early to mid 80's was pretty grim mate. Manchester was industrial and grim, pre the regeneration that started in the 90's.
The Hacienda was totally out of place in the 80's, they were trying to recreate New York's hedonistic nightlife in their home town. Like everyone says, the Hac was like a spaceship that had landed, it was so out of sync with it's surroundings. When the rave scene kicked off in late '87 though, Manchester had a a perfect venue ready and waiting.
We know what you mean, Liam.
Not entirely sure Rob Gretton or Tony Wilson served Joy Division/ New Order very well.
If it wasn’t for their pushing I doubt JD/NO would have been motivated enough to make it as they did.
They are all important parts of the same puzzle.
@@RennieDJ Exactly - JD/NO are a band like no other because of this uniquely chaotic but independent backstory.
@@MichaelBennett1 I agree with that but they made some bad decisions which cost the band a lot of money. At one point all the members of New Order were in danger of losing their homes. Tony Wilson was a great abstract thinker but his notions didn't always work in the real world. Gretton definitely helped pick the band up and got them going in the right direction after the demise of Joy Division.
New Order wouldn't even exist without them
please opcion subtitulos. como en los otros episodios
Que triste que no haya subtítulos en español, desde el episodio 5.
I'm so sad, since episode 5, there is not spanish subtitles.
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Come on, at least the English subtitles, for Jupiter's sake! Steve and Gillian are hard to understand, and Tony even worse!
oh, you poor yank LMAO
Where were you when Jesus died?...err, I mean Ian died?
nice teaser, PCL. proper LP get Brotherhood .