Shadow vs Vegeta (Sonic the hedgehog VS Dragonball Super) [SPRITE ANIMATION] [REMAKE]
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Programs used:
- Adobe Animate C6
- Gimp 2
- Audacity
- Sony Vegas Pro 15
Music Used:
- Metal Slug 5 - FIERCE BATTLE Normal Boss Battle
- What I'm Made OfChallengers Remix
- Dragon Ball Super OST. Vegeta Royal blue theme Original
- i am all of me
Sprites Credits:
- Aura effects by him: / @vrixro39
- Shadow (all) by asylusgoji91 and cipherthehedge fox
- Vegeta Base and SSJ by Que
- Vegeta God by lityangster5
- Vegeta Blue by peculiardoc
- Vegeta Blue Evolution by songoku0911
There are some Dedgrafic's reference here :D
So what's next? The sonic vs flash fight
I A M T H E H Y P E
@@pizzamaster6949 hello pizza master
@@Eminster hi
Let me guess the whole video
“YOU ARE TALKING BULLSHIT!!”
-Vegeta, 2020, December 18th.
@Dash The Hedgehog nope
@Dash The Hedgehog nope
deathbattle is screaming and crying rn
So are the vegeta fanboys 😂
@@aprilstegall6002 I can already hear all the weebs leaving their mom’s basement to spread the word of this video
Who cares about Death Battle?😒
@@porobotboyxxx fr right?
@@120masked3 Right.😑👌
Shadow: *CHAOS-*
Vegeta: How dare you....
Shadow: *LET ME FINISH! >:(*
Vegeta:NEVER
Super Shadow : *CHAOS*
Vegeta : (takes The Seven Chaos Emeralds from Shadow)
Omae Wa Mou, Shindeiru...
Super Shadow : LET ME FINISH ! >:(
Super Vegeta : You are already dead...
Base Shadow : NANI !!!!
Super Vegeta : (does a final flash)
Sayonara......RAT !
Sonic : *WE ARE NOT SOME GOD DANG RATS ARRGHHHHH* >:(
@@Alex_4_Life Shadow: Chaos Control
Grabs the emeralds back nice try you missed
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 Vegeta: *YOU UNDERESTIMATED MY POWER!*
*Does the bingo dance*
@@darksonicyt5430 lol
Vegeta: "DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!"
Vegeta a few seconds later: "I AM THE HYPE!"
...I appreciate the DBZA references
That looks sick, great work bro.
I loved the the dedgrafic reference aswell and you also used the aura I gave you great work!
Yeahh i almost forgot, i will add your credits
@@pippomela sure, thanks
3:53 this is basically what two dbz fanboys told me when i said sonic could beat goku
is not that sonic "could" beat goku, he completely stomps
@@pippomela yep, fax
From what Sonic is almighty, and can beat every anime characters?...
Awesome, I wish I could animate like you. I'm also taking lots of inspiration from dedgrafic and you.
Keep up the amazing work!
Honestly, for the most part this video was accurate. Only complaint is that Shadow shouldn’t of have difficulty dealing with SSG Vegeta, considering that at most I can only see Super Sayian God Vegeta at Universal, where as Shadow has several dead set Universal feats.
Other than that, good video
The fact is that base shadow and ssg vegeta are both low multiversal but i preferred make God stronger
@@pippomela Alright. I’m ok with that
Problem is God vegeta has feats above universal and low multiversal
@@pizzamaster6949 Not really
@@caliburn6091 well actually yes even buuhan had a universal feat
Great animation as usual friend......and accurate outcome too.
@Slayer The Wolf Demon Anyway Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta solos Sonicverse.
@@DevilMarioProductions Archie stomps Xeno
@@SD-uw7zu Archie Sonic stuck at 5D, while Xeno Goku is 6D. Gtfo here Sonictard.
@@DevilMarioProductions Archie sonic is 11-20d dragon ball tard
Archie sonic stomps Xeno
So shadow just attacked someone wife just for an emerald ?
Damn
That's just wrong shadow
damn fourth chaos emerald
Come on guys shadow would kill a baby for chaos emerald lol, at least shadow in the past he has changed over time not that much though he'd still probably kill people for a chaos emerald.
@Dash The Hedgehog AYO-
@Dash The Hedgehog not much
Video Power Scale
Bulma
@Power Level Scaling Can’t say I disagree
@Abducco Power Levels no he is not base shadow is only solar system level but super shadow SOLOS dragon ball super
@Abducco Power Levels that’s the Archie comics
@Abducco Power Levels oh OHHHHH Sonic and the secret Rings right
Shadow show vegeta who’s boss
3:51 a toxic Dragonball/Sonic fan if a normal Dragonball/Sonic fan says that they don´t cares who is stronger
Magical Energy vs. Spiritual Energy... Magical Energy won this day.
Since when is shadow magic?
@@QWERTY-mo6cq Since Sonic Battle back in 2003?
@JulanyDaniel Alonso There’s a move called Chaos Magic.
@@porobotboyxxx having a move that is called magic doesn't make shadow magic
@@QWERTY-mo6cq But he does use Magic, the Sonic Encyclopedia states that Power Rings and Chaos Emeralds are in fact Magical Energy.💁
Its sad but amazing too that in his Chaos Speed Form. He still is considered SLOW by sonic. But i love that aspect too.. Keep him the fastest
You just got a new sub, yet another fan that realizes sonic is strong and doesn't lowball him
thanks man
@@pippomela A question which Shadow did you use? I'm not saying Vegeta should have won, I'm just saying that depending on which Shadow you used, the fight could have been a little different.
@Frostyninja Nah, Shadow is way stronger than Vegeta
This is Game Shadow
@@theoneandonlyflameeye who can be compared to Sonic who's low multi (in base) because of sonic and the secret rings
I love how you added the line from tfs "I AM THE HYPE" lmao
Normie: Why does Shadow's theme always play whenever the animators take him seriously?
Everyone: The law is the law, and we can't change it.
For every dbz fan: remember,this is only a animation, just to see two characters have a fight, none of this is a debate Battle just a awesome and cool animation,the animator likes both sides
excuses
@@classicjazz9671 no
@@supermario9650 nah
Funny part is it's not even an excuse because the outcome is accurate.
Woah dude! This is a great improvement over the original!
Thanks dude
poor Vegeta, even if his "spirit Fission" worked, he would spend a century attacking the Shadow, whereas Vegeta Blue Evolution MAX is 5D while Super Shadow is superior to 9D
a century? It will be a cold day in hell before vegeta even gets a quarter of energy out of shadow. The chaos emeralds have INFINITE energy, remember?
@@itsyaboyjoyride Yeah, there's that too 😅😅😅
@@itsyaboyjoyride
Vegeta could drain the energy of Moro which would be infinite since he is far above High Universal which is Infinite Power
so he could drain the emeralds
@@yo9929 far above high universal is multiversal. Not infinite.
@@itsyaboyjoyride
Far Above High Universal is Uni+ to boundless
High Universal is Infinite Power
High Universal : Characters who demonstrate an infinite amount of energy on a 3-D scale, or those who can affect an infinite 3-D area or an infinite number of finite or infinite universes when not accounting for any higher dimensions or time, or more generally any realm of comparable size. Large numbers of infinite universes, unless causally closed from one another by a separate spacetime or existence, only count for a higher level of this tier. Being “infinitely” stronger than this level, unless uncountably so, does not qualify for any higher tier.
Keyword : infinite amount of energy
no surpise shadow wins he solos with sonic
Don't forget, Silver
*When a db fanboy get shitstomped in a debate* 3:52
Lmao
Fax
Why did I find this so funny
LMAOOOOO 😭😭💀💀💀💀
LMAO.
Magic... it’s a tricky *b&t@h* ain’t it? *:D*
3:53 exactly what a dragon ball bastard said to me just cause I told em why archie shadow destroys xeno vegeta
LOL
Wh-
This was so good loved every minute of it
Great Job on the animation! This was amazing, I really enjoyed it!
Reference to the Archie comics.
Vegeta: Foolish hedgehog!! I am a God!!
Shadow: Even a God must bow to the ultimate life form....
Cool, but this isn't archie shadow, is the one from the games xD
@@pippomela I know, I'm just saying the reference. ^^
And I love how everyone uses I am all of me for Shadow's final move, and I mean of course it's chaos blast. XD
Super Genesis Wave Intensifies
Vero XD
Shadow: ranting (basically im abusing and borrowing power that isnt my own)
Vegeta: SHUTTHAFUCKAAAAAHHHHPPPPP!!!!!
Not trying to debate but isn't Shadow made from 50% Chaos Energy meaning using anything Chaos Related is actually his own power and abilities?
It would be Sonic who abuses sources of power that aren't his own. You can expose Sonic to anything and he'll absorb the energy while too much energy doesn't do anything lethal except giving Sonic mutations like Wisps or Werehog meaning it's virtually impossible to kill Sonic with energy.
Not a bad animation, you did a nice work
This fight is so accurate and good
You have improved so much after some many videos like Dedgrafic if you want I will give you links for characters sprites who you can do in a next video.
alright you can send me the sprites...btw glad to see you again :D
@@pippomela Well do you like Archie Sonic?
www.mediafire.com/file/gu8s4oho7htxg7z/Archie_Sonic.rar/file
Or against Wally West (Flash) ?
www.mediafire.com/file/bgxfelcnqd3swcy/WallyWest.rar/file
I warn you, the sprites are there.
music ost that you can use it ruclips.net/video/flPyUwpIsEA/видео.html
@@GcmAstro97 the files that you sent to me aren't sprites wtf, they are files that i can't open...or i don't know how to open them. well archie vs barry allen is already work in progress. Btw i will do wally west vs sonic later by my own, since the first one is a commission
@@pippomela maybe you need the same program who I've #FighterFactoryClassic. and open in their .def, but if you say you already do it's ok.
@@GcmAstro97 alright i wil install it
so I'm doing a complete restart on sonic and goku research to reach conclusive answer on the winner and how it scales between both of their feats(idea came from sonic hyperversal)
Starting with the multiverse of both
Neat if you need any reference feel free to check my book out www.wattpad.com/user/truesonic
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 thanks
@@pizzamaster6949 Hold up, let me also save you some trouble.
The end of dragon ball super, all universes that were erased, were brought back with the super dragon balls.
Meaning there are 18 universes in the canon series.
@@robensmonteau161 oh
Did you get a conclusion?
Nice video.Even tho Shadow stomps Vegeta along with whole franchise.
No
No.
@@Greenbit Shut up and yes.
@@pizzamaster6949 Shut up and Yes.
@@SK-S2 no and prove it
Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing a Sonic and Dragon Ball crossover... Fan made or official.
It would be really cool especially since both franchises like to mess around with time and space, dimensions, etc... (More So Sonic in both games AND media)
And if Archie Sonic(there's a reason why im using archie here) met The Supreme Kai of Time and she found out about all the timeline and time-space shenanigans that goes on in his world, id imagine it'll go like this...
Supreme Kai of time: don't you realize how much destruction and chaos you caused in your world that could possibly affect ours?
Archie Sonic: Honestly lady, too many timelines to count.
"i'm a blue hedgehog who knows more than you lil bitch"
Agreed
But dragon ball believes in alternate timeline theory whereas sonic believes in dynamic time travel theory
@@Nice_Person7379 see? It's the best of both worlds.
Even though people pit these characters against each other a lot there really is no definitive answer because Vegeta and Shadow are just fictional characters and you can have whoever you want to win so it really doesn't matter who wins and who loses. But great animation though!
For the longest time I never understood why Chaos Control worked on Vegeta, but looking over it, it makes sense. Despite Sonic moving through time, being equal to Shadow who can fast forward through time, dodge the chaos sphere which is amped by chaos control, chaos control literally warping time itself, running so fast time came to a standstill and,has moved outside of time, tagged teleportation, ran through endless dimensions, traveled to a different timeline and has moved through time rifts, Chaos Control has had zero issue tagging him.
If it can still tag immeasurably fast characters, it can tag Vegeta with no diff
Chaos control is above the concept of time and space. Is not a normal "time stop"
@@pippomela I know it’s not a normal time stop but what supports it being above the concept of time and space
@@thesage7314 actually it was stated under the ability of shadow in a game which i can't remember the name unfortunately
When has shadow fast forward time again I forgot
Sonic has never moved time in base i believe
They never ran so fast time froze
Never ran endless dimesions
correct me if I'm wrong
@@pippomela probably was a mistranslation
Vegeta: thats my- *dies*
Oh, I glad to see remake of the past battlle w/ Spirit Fission. Nice work!
One moment, 3:40 How does Shadow know about Ki?
@@mrdreggfreezer1991 cause ki is still energy in a way, he only noticed about that cause he felt like his "ki" was draining out
@@pippomela
Ki isn't energy, Energy is 1/3 of what Ki is made of
@@yo9929 It’s energy
@@caliburn6091
it's not Akira stated it was more than Energy
Amazing fight.
Though:
Still believe the winner depends on who you ask
In this case, it all comes down to which version of shadow is used. If it’s the video game version, shadow loses badly. If it’s the Archie version, vegeta loses badly.
0:18 maria : shame on you shadow shame on you
how could you even dare harm a poor innocent women
Shadow: But I needed that damn fourth chaos emerald maria
@@pizzamaster6949 technically it was the seventh but OK...
@@Velocity_YT it's a joke
@@pizzamaster6949 i know just wanted to point that out...😎
@@Velocity_YT I knew but you didn't have to point it man😀
Sonic and shadow vs Goku and Vegeta full on vibes ngl but no matter what sonic and shadow wins for sure
No cap
@@aprilstegall6002 fax
Nice remaster! Love the TFS Reference just like in DedGrafic’s Version!
Tfs?
TeamFourStar to be exact with what I’m talking about. Have you heard of DBZ Abridged?
@@johncohagen2793 yeah i heard of it but i never saw it o.o
That’s where the “I Am The Hype” line originated from.
@@pippomela trust me it's funny check it out sometime and don't forget the candian subs
2:20 I HEARD THAT TFS REFERENCE!!!
ohhh you did :DDD
Something funny to ponder about this video having vegeta lose has the least amount of dislikes from when dbz loses i have ever seen
Obv, everyone noticed my improvements on the animations and the toxic people are getting banned so u.u
@@pippomela which is the best part
Oh I believe it lol
Some people argued that Egg Wizard shouldn’t be scaled to Sonic and Blaze and by extension, Shadow. But he was never suppressed. Even if he was laughing and taunting them, he could simply be confident in his victory as Sonic and Blaze would eventually run out of juice so he could simply out last him. Especially because while he shows no signs of energy consumption, they have to be careful putting them at a disadvantage.
You are talking about shining/gold the winner ?
@@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24 nah, just clearing up a misconception
@@thesage7314 dude here's the thing rings are in game mechanic in reality you need energy to hold up super forms
Cool video!
When you use *canon,* you can’t go wrong.👌
La verdad esque las súper e hyper formas no tienen un límite exacto todo depende los pensamientos del usuario
El más cuerdo de todo el chat, eres un grande
Agreed.
I can understand why shadow wins this because vegeta during the anime (I’m assuming this is anime vegeta idk) is able to take out planets and what not but still died to the freiza exploding the earth during resurrection f while shadow is one of the three people in the sonic games who beat Solaris who exist in the past, present, and future and shadow was only super for this (and yes I know sonic and silver were there too but still plus the creator did say 06 is somewhat canon)
Silver and sonic didnt support Shadow they fought seperately in each dimension shadow in the past and sonic in the present silver in the future
@@abdalsamadbabar3627 Ik I was just trying to say he didn’t do it by himself
@@abdalsamadbabar3627 also I’m just going based off what I know I never really cared for the boss fight
@@purpleshadow6239 In the 06 guide It was stated that Solaris existed in the present , past , future and he had temporal Omnipresence. They fought solo each so shadow is at least outer now since he fought a super dimensional being on his own
@@abdalsamadbabar3627 oh ok I get it now
Man this is so many inspirade in dedgrafic, so good animation pipo mela congratulantions
Thanks x3
Damn... It's awesome :D
2:42 soundtrack YU GI OH ZEXAL 👍
Yeah i forgot...
One criticism, I have is Shadow wouldn't hurt some normal human for a Chaos Emerald. He would easily take it with his speed and leave the human unharmed. Everything else is fine tho.
I agree. I dislike him being like that. It contradicts his character in Heroes.
But plot
@@pizzamaster6949 Screw plot
@@thesage7314 true
well you don't know what happened before actually...maybe bulma pissed him with a sort of thing idk
Bruh did he really have to attack Bulma like that 🤣🤣
I mean beerus did it and he looks like a mobian who says shadow can't
@@pizzamaster6949 lol true
In Sonic Battle, Shadow fights Emerl and states that although his body was injured before, he’s ready now. Implying that he has recovered. He then goes on to say how this will determine who is the strongest, meaning he used his full power in this battle. We don’t actually know who wins in the end and as such we’ll just call it a tie, meaning Ultimate Emerl=Shadow(Full Power). Later on Shadow tells Emerl to fight all his friends, getting stronger as time goes on. He beats them all except for Sonic, who literally flexes on him and tells him that he was even trying his hardest.
So according to Sonic Battle
Suppressed Sonic>Ultimate Emerl (Post Shadow Battle)>Ultimate Emerl= Full Power Shadow.
Drip do you have discord?
@@pippomela Yeah, I do. Why you ask?
@@thesage7314 cause i want your discord so i can tell you a thing
@@pippomela Ok, sure then
@@thesage7314 alright send it
I shall now be known as “Drip Sonic”
Dripnic and Dripnckles
@@pizzamaster6949 Ah yeah bro!
@@thesage7314 Y E S
No one care
Uh what?🤔
Spirit Fission wouldn't work because it only affects KI, which is literally stated as life force energy. That won't work on Chaos Energy, which is likely magic.
Actually ki is one of the things it can affect according to vegeta things combined by absorption or fusion can also be removed or in Laymen terms any energy that isn't natural to one's body can be removed
@@pizzamaster6949 Actually no. Forced Spirit Fission is merely just another Spirit Control technique which is directly stated to be simple KI manipulation.
@@frost56 spirit fission is an offshoot of spirit control which controls one ki and spirit while spirit fission does something different they don't really abide by the same rules unless stated otherwise
@@pizzamaster6949 It's still a form of Spirit Control which is literally just Ki Manipulation.It affecting anything other than Ki can't be possible as it no longer would be Spirit Control
@@frost56 once again it is an offshoot of spirit control but doesn't share the same rules otherwise according to vegeta it wouldn't be able to separate fusions and absorption both of which do and don't use ki like piccolo absorption which doesn't use ki
Esta chevere la animación :^
:) Wow, he had to evolve to overpower Chaos Shadow. Also, nice aversion of the sprit fission technique. Vegeta should have used this while Shadow was still in his base form lol. Loving how Vegeta could land no hits until he was in SSJG.
Hey, what about the infamous time speed feat that was done in ToP by Jiren? What do you think of it? How would you debunk it? Just curious
@@omega8912 Let me get back to you on that :)
@@omega8912 the thing about that is hit’s “time” abilities are far different than shadow’s. Hit skips time slightly. Basically using super speed. While shadow completely pauses time and space. In time skip the opponent can still move. With chaos control they can’t.
Base Shadow>Time Eater, Egg Wizard, Egg Salamander and Phantom King.
Vegeta stood no chance
not egg wizard dude, not in base at least
@@pippomela Him beating Infinite should have proven this
@@pippomela Also Thanks for the heart
@@caliburn6091 np i always leave hearts xd. I mean he could be stronger than regular time eater but not above the perfected one with the two eggmen since it one shotted both base sonics
@@pippomela Yeah, but in Eggman stated that the Phantom Ruby is the most powerful thing he has ever used, which would include Time Eater and The OG Ruby was keeping up with Super Sonic and Eggman was overloading it in his fight against Sonic, something Eggman never did.
Great animation better than the original like the dedgrafic references and it feels good for shadow to win for once by the way I have 2 Questions if you see this how’s sonic vs flash going and I have a request animation sonic from super sonic x universe vs game or Archie sonic hope you don’t mind me asking
Sonic vs flash won't come out anytime soon unfortunately. And yeah if you want, tell me your twitter account or your discord name and "#" number of discord
I don’t have discord or Twitter sorry
@@SsxuSonic10 meh, instagram?
@ pippo mela no not really I only use RUclips
@@pippomela Death battle’s sonic vs flash was garbage. Archie got downplayed.
Damn you’ve gotten good
Shadow says that Ultimate Emerl with 7 emeralds is stronger than Sonic could imagine and he didn’t disagree. Which he means Metal Overlord is literal fodder to Ultimate Emerl
Could be since metal overlord scales to solar system to multi solar system while ultmerl via feb would be multi solar system tho translation of jp version says stars or nothing involving stars from two different sources I've seen so I'll probably have to check that out myself
@@pizzamaster6949 Ok
@@pizzamaster6949
Actually the Kanji can means star jut it can means a lot of thing too like Planets or Objects
@@pizzamaster6949
Beside how is Overloard Multi Solar System ?
@@yo9929 just a estimate since metal overlord has data from several beings and required 3 super states to take down
The triggered level of dbs fans is over 9000
9M
G-Merl is stated to be the Ultimate Fighting Robot, which would mean that he is superior to all machinery thus far at the time in the story, which includes Ultimate Emerl and Metal Overlord
G-Merl contains data from emerl pre ultimate form and metal overlord isn't a robot made for fighting per say rather destruction also metal overlord is gone at this point so G-merl by technicalities is the ultimate fighting robot
@@pizzamaster6949 That’s pretty irrelevant to my statement since he would still be stronger. Never said strongest robot currently. Just said strongest. So basically as a whole
I'm saying the statement isn't wrong just that there's no evidence gemerl scales above ultimate emerl nor metal overlord who requires 3 super forms in base plus that at the time gemerl technically would be the ultimate fighting robot
@@pizzamaster6949 If the statement says he’s the strongest, he’s stronger than Metal Overlord. Simple as that.
At the time was never stated however. So Metal and Emerl would be factored in
@@thesage7314 technically it says ultimate which doesn't always mean strongest but I digress, while it was never stated it is clear that's what it meant given the manuel states g-merl uses emerl base data meaning either emerl pre ultimate is somehow stronger than metal overlord or it means at the time but yes it would put him above metal and emerl just not metal overlord or ultimate emerl in base
"I AM THE HYPE"
Seriously saga needs to bring back hero shadow, hero Shadow is basically super Saiyan blue but done right. And it came out first.
Recoloring forms isn't done right at all but I see your point only problem is Sega like throw things at the wall and see what sticks instead of listening to fans
The Game Sonic verse has String Theory
Proof
@@pizzamaster6949 Sonic Boom mentions string theory twice and it’s confirmed Sonic Boom is a parallel universe to Game Sonic
@@thesage7314 Sonic Boom has never mentioned string theory
@@pizzamaster6949 It has. You would know if you actually watched the show
@@thesage7314 i did watch the show there was no mention of string theory
Sure, Shadow The Hedgehog may be very strong by himself, even in his super form, along with the ability to stop time, but surely his super form shouldn't be able to go up against Vegeta's Blue Evolution, he could've used maybe hyper form to withstand that, but other than that great animation. Although I dont know why I found 3:52 so hilarious, lmao
Any evidences? Cause unless you can prove Vegeta>Solaris then you can't say that he is stronger lol
The super states has taken on multiversal beings comparable to infinite zamasu and jiren
@@pizzamaster6949 infinite zamasu does things similar to Solaris but in an infinite weaker scale
@@pippomela well yes but you get my point
@@pizzamaster6949 yeah but you can't say that is on his par
AWESOME ANIMATION/REMAKE DUDE IF I WAS 1M PEOPLE I WOULD GIVE TJIS VIDEO 1M LIKES👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾😇
Great Job on the fight
Still better than death battles innacurate amount of BS (unless you count Ultra Ego Vegeta)
ultra ego is still weak to shadow
@@pippomela I feel like he would win against super shadow but ties chaos shadow (shadows ultra ego)
@@pippomela Ultra Ego Shadow
@@knucklessolostheverse chaos shadow is weaker than super shadow
@@pippomela oh does shadow have is own hyper?
I dunno about this outcome.
STRENGTH/POWER/DURABILITY
Shadow should be as tough as Sonic, who survived the destruction of the Death Egg, and his super form draws from the power of the Chaos Emeralds. In Sonic Unleashed, the Chaos Emeralds are capable of moving pieces of the Earth around. Based on the size of each piece and the speed of which they were moved, this would require 403 zettatons of TNT per emerald, and 2.8 yottatons of TNT combined. Crazy, but even Vegeta in Super Saiyan 2 before the Battle of Gods arc was already nearly twice as powerful. In other words, this is small time for him. After learning how to use God ki and turn into a Super Saiyan God, he was powerful enough to threaten entire universes. Sure, Shadow was able to defeat Solaris, but this required exploiting weak points on Solaris' body. Eggman himself confirms that Super Sonic, Shadow, and Silver wouldn't be able to overpower such a threat with brute force alone. In Sonic Frontiers, there are several implications that Super Sonic can be defeated by far less. Like when Sage, a sentient supercomputer, calculated that Super Sonic wouldn't be able to stop The End on his own. Tails directly compares the power of The End to Dark Gaia, who is large planet level at best, and an entity that Sonic also couldn't defeat without aid. Vegeta being scaled to universal is far more consistent. Plus, after learning Super Saiyan God, a saiyan can partially tap into its power without fully transforming, allowing him to be as powerful as a Super Saiyan God in his base form alone.
SPEED/REACTION/ATHLETICISM
Shadow should be comparable to Sonic, who was fast enough to avoid laser beams. He's considered faster than a Cyan wisp, which the energy of said wisp behaves very similarly to real light energy, and in Sonic CD, in order to activate the time plate, Sonic needs to move at light speed, based on the official Japanese manual for Sonic CD. Unfortunately, Vegeta is still very much faster. In the same way Shadow is comparable to Sonic, Vegeta is comparable to Goku, who was quick enough to fly from King Kai's planet to literal HE 🏒🏒 in less than a minute. This would require moving at 29 quintillion times light speed, and that's not even accounting for Super Saiyan transformation multipliers. I have seen arguments that say Sonic is faster than time itself, but that doesn't make sense. One instance is Sonic moving in a void without space and time, which theoretically requires incalculable speed to pull off. However, there's one problem. By that logic, Knuckles is faster than time, Tails and Amy are faster than time, EVEN EGGMAN AND ELISE would be faster than time. Plus, there have been plenty of moments where Vegeta and other characters have moved a void without time and space, like the *entire Tournament of Power?* Others would say that Sonic is capable of altering time just by moving in Sonic Generations, but there's nothing really suggesting that Sonic is actually running so fast time is being altered through momentum. It seems more like Sonic is simply interacting with the space-time void created by the Time Eater, fixing the events of previous games. Lastly, in Sonic and the Secret Rings, there's a moment where Sonic was apparently fast enough to run across entire universes, but it would be way more impressive if Sonic didn't use magical hourglasses to escape, leaving it extremely dubious to say that Sonic is quick enough to actually perform something like this.
ARSENAL/ABILITIES/HAX
Shadow has more weapons on his person, whether it be various guns, or shields. However, they hardly mattered in terms of offense. Shadow could freeze time on Vegeta, but Shadow wasn't strong enough to capitalize on this in any meaningful way. Shadow could also teleport Vegeta into space, since saiyans still need oxygen to breathe, but Vegeta should be fast enough to fly to a nearby planet with safe atmospheric conditions, given that Goku could last that long in space for about a minute. Lastly, his Chaos Rift could trap Vegeta in another dimension, but it's not 100% guaranteed that it would successfully work on Vegeta. Meanwhile, Vegeta's spirit fission could steal the energy from the Chaos Emeralds. This has happened before when Dr. Eggman released Dark Gaia onto the planet, which resulted in Sonic and Chip having to find a way to restore their energy. Shadow's super form can only last so long. Super forms can only be sustained for as long as the user has rings on their person. Sonic himself confirms this, and Shadow doesn't exactly have that fancy schmancy Cyloop that Sonic has. So, even if Super Shadow was as powerful as Vegeta, all Vegeta would have to do is wait out the Super form and strike at the first opportunity...or just use Hakai...and end the fight immediately.
INTELLIGENCE/EXPERIENCE/SKILL
Shadow has kept up with multiple experienced combatants in the past. However, Vegeta was way too experienced on the field of battle. Vegeta was a trained warrior from birth, this dude has easily 50 years of combat training and experience under his belt. Shadow is certainly a more disciplined fighter than Sonic and is over fifty years old at this point, but how much of those 50 years were dedicated to combat? None. Shadow was too busy playing Captain America for all that time.
Thank you for the facts👍
Reminds me of dedgrafic’s version of this.
cool bro
So god goku in bog could accidentally destroy universe 7 which is 9 times the size of our own who’s then power converted into base form making his base form multiversal and there’s this vegeta who is currently rivalling our current goku which can shake the void a world of infinite nothingness and if we go into manga territory we’ve already gone past that state of power seeing as though gokus ultra instinct can be used into any transformation he wishes therefore making a reality breaker which can be shown by gogeta in the broly movie where he literally shattered reality in an exchange of punches. But here’s where vegeta comes in, gokus dumbass still in mastered ultra instinct lost to angst cyclops so vegeta had to pull up with his new form “ultra ego” which converts damage into energy but has its limits due to how much damage he could take. Thank you for reading my petty ted talk I love shadow but I like mc Donald’s more
Breaking reality isn't multiversal, also 9x universe is multi-universal at best, not multiversal, in plus the db universe isn't infinite so rip not even the size od our universe which is infinite
@@pippomela
Depend
being infinite or not is irrevelant to reach multiversal
there is no proof our universe is Infinite only theories
@@bro8572 doesn't matter, goku never affected an infinite space so the our space point is kinda irrelevant
@@pippomela
It's you who bring that point you know ?
And he did since the Mortal Realm whuch is a fraction of the macrcocosm itslef way smaller than U7 is Infinite. And there is a lot of indication of Z Frieza already scaling to it via the Genkidama stated multiples times to take energy from everything in the Universe(and the inside contain infinite thing) and he is stated multiples time as well to be able to destroy the mortal realm, also survived at his weakest, with little to no ki and coose to death to Namek's explosion which destroy a Galaxy which are Infinite in size as stated.
Thus he was already High Universal, able to affect Infinite Space, and is nothing to Goku
@@pippomela ikr, that shaking infinite thing is pretty dumb. He shook infinite nothingness. Meaning he shook *literally nothing.*
The TimeStones are said to transcend time itself.
I mean they travel and control time so yeah
@@pizzamaster6949 By that logic Seraphina from Unordinary transcends time since she can control time.
@@pizzamaster6949 Controlling time really doesn’t mean you transcend it.
@@thesage7314 i meant as the time stones control it to the point they dwarf time but anyways what was the statement for this one
@@pizzamaster6949 It doesn’t really matter to what extent you control time. Still doesn’t mean you transcend it lol
No way he said.. waste of his time … in Blue Evolution.. Vegeta gotta lay off the senzu crack
Ur animations are good
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"you are talking bullshit!"
Yeah he is cause that's what chaos energy is a bunch of bullshit
Better than ki
Don't like it then at least stop bitching around DBS fanboy
People be talking about how he hurt Bulma but he said if she gave him the emerald he wouldn’t hurt her and he didn’t
Yeah shadow doesn't want to hurt people if isn't necessary. He's only doing his own business
He probably killed her due to the chaos blast we just gonna forget that right
@@pizzamaster6949 He didn’t mean for that to happen
@@omega8912 true but think of shadow reaction when he realizes he killed her now that i think of it he probably murdered a city too maybe eggman was right
@@pizzamaster6949 M-MARIA
This is so good
4:24 shadow💣💣😎
Would the oc be multiversal because he was able to keep up with sonic?
which oc?
@@pippomela you know the one from forces.
Would your custom created character be multiversal
@@Supreme32552 more than multi but yeah, multi is legit
@@pippomela oh ok
Shadow 😎😎💣
One in sonic battle emerl beat shadow with just 7 chaos emerlads but sonic stop emerld iven they have power up to destroy stars in sonic generations shadow they can't not stop sonic
The Powerpuff Girls (Blossom, Bubbles and Buttercup) vs Hyper Sonic + The Powerpuff Girls vs Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku - Hey, wait a minute!! I thought I knows about that Shadow can turned Hyper form from ZeusJKL9261 and Duude9000 aka Beast Daniell that should to be work about it getting combos to beat Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta Evolution. I thought you're gonna need to check it out.
sprite animation Shadow the hedgehog vs Black Goku please Bro
Otherworld isn’t 5D lol.
Shield UP!
@@elijahdixon7681 Time to prepare for a wave of DBS fans
As much as I disagree I have to get my 🛡 and some 🍿 and 🍕 for the salt wave
@@pizzamaster6949 ✊ Respect
@@thesage7314 thank you now lets us wait for the 🧂 🚆
According to the Japanese version of SaSTR, Erazor Jinn had absorbed the power of the worlds he collected and surpassed the creator of the Arabian Nights.
He also returned the worlds to how they where before which is stated to require much more power than absorbing them
Erazor even without the rings is above multiversal
Actually it is stated he harvested not absorbed them and sonic made him return it
@@skyreaper3195 that would be low multiversal not multiversal
@@pizzamaster6949 Wrong. Here’s exactly what Shaara said
“He began harvesting the book’s pages and absorbing its power”
@@pizzamaster6949Multiversal considering its 500 universes and it requires far more power to do so.
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Just to point out, Hero Shadow is NOT an actual form, and it is only seen in Shadow the Hedgehog, because it is part of the GAMEPLAY MECHANICS. In Gameplay it is just a powerup for Shadow to use Chaos Control at all, just because he needs to utilise positive Chaos energy, and that's why he turns blue. In reality however, Shadow never turns blue, when using positive energy, or Chaos Control, no matter how massive, since he uses both 24/7 by default. Besides, even in Dark form, he can use Chaos Control. I think in Gameplay it was just to illustrate that Shadow is about to use Chaos Control, but as I stated, Gameplay reasons. The Dark form on the other hand DOES exist, because that is Shadow utilising dark chaos energy, and turns red, that is why Shadow uses Chaos Blast, to release all the anger. In other words, it is the same form as Dark Sonic.
Hero shadow is a actual form since everything is canon including rings and this is hero super shadow hero actually enhances everything well not everything but increases speed a lot and strength by a little bit the chaos spears are blue because of it dark increase mostly power and strength not speed but its enough to match hero shadows speed and hero super and hero shadow is an actual form Dark shadow is similar to dark sonic except it isnt that angry. he can use it in super too and it requires taking his rings off + combine chaos boost chaos boost shadow is weaker than dark but it can be used with both hero and dark since its an chaos power but it somehow surpasses hero And no Hero shadow is canon and official no cap. Also no proof on it being gameplay mechanics since it make shadow go at insane speeds faster than sonic and yes he can use chaos control and no it doesnt matter with hero he can use a better chaos control also he can only use chaos control with dark if hes in super dark super shadow can use it so can base now. Hero is canon no matter what you say
OF COURSE HERO SHADOW IS A REAL FORM ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
What's next? You gonna say that shadow doesn't actually use guns or ride motorcycles?
Thought Shadow became Shadic for one sec. So now that Vegeta has Ultra Ego, I think Vegeta can win. (I like both verses, not just DBZ)
i still have Shadow above
@@pippomela Ok, I respect your opinion :))
Me gusta mucho su estiló de animación
i wish you can make a tutorial on how to make these videos the are so good
I won't for now
What is the blue form for Shadow
Hero shadow
@@pippomela ok
@@pippomela dark shadow is still superior dark super is the most powerful
@@saimariaz7293 Yeah, Dark Shadow has more raw power, but Hero Shadow has way more control over his power
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 Hero shadow is faster. Dark Shadow is mostly a strength amp and less of a speed amp. His powers are above but hero has superior chaos control abilities.
O ay where’s haki Vegeta at???? Also what shadow did you use
game shadow
@@pippomela hmmm ok what game we talking?
@@420oclock3 ? Game shadow is game shadow
@@pippomela ? So ALL games???
@@420oclock3 ye obvsly post 06 most likely
Ah common W
Loved your explanation on Spirit Fission!
For a sec I thought you were going to pull a Ebullience and have Vegeta punch the emeralds out of Shadow and use them
But Ebullience doesn’t have Shadow lose to Vegeta.
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He does in "Price Vegeta vs Shadow the ultimate life form"
But Shadow wins on the sequel and the other version of that fight