Silat is an umbrella term for countless very, very old techniques of Indonesian armed and unarmed combat for guerilla warfare that have only recently become more formally taught as martial arts. Karate is a term associated with several distinct styles of common roots but very different approaches to combat. Both Silat and Karate, in their purest forms, have emphasis on striking enemy vitals to end a fight quickly, which obviously doesn't translate well into sparring, competition or more passive self defense. Don't judge Karate or Silat based on a single video. They're both magnificent, in their own right
The Silat guy is pretty good at sweeps and even when he misses- still maintains his balance/coordination-- which is quite impressive. The Karate guy is good at on ground fighting- his attacks are pretty solid and is not deterred by the various sweeps
@@learningthief ROFL I was thinking that too. Like IRL in real combat you go for a sweep I just stab you on the way down, not playing "tournament" on the streets pfft! Also, WTF is up with those "Día de los Muertos" lookin masks they all got on anyhow? (see 4:58 for example in the background) -> i.imgur.com/gdYPWMM.png
@@tiborzkarate1 what did you expect lol most of the silat moves is banned vital organ are the main target, i believe it's also in karate but karate is still have solid moves without it
I scrolled down through a number of the comments and I find it interesting that no one bothered to mention that the Silat fighter is wearing a rather substantial chest protector, whereas the Karate Fighter seems to simply be wearing his Gi. This gives the Silat Fighter quite an advantage because they don't seem to be doing any head contact so the once substantial part of his body that is a legal target is protected from the full power of his opponent's blows. I would like to see how would hold ups if he had to take them full force. I'm guessing not too well. Aside from the good sweeps ( which I would expect from a Silat Practioner ) I didn't see much in the way of striking power.
bangga pencak silat dipelajari diluar.. bukan cma muangtai aja.:) pencah silat dr indonesia ,malaysia jga ada pencak silat. krna kita dulu satu kerajaan majapahit n' satu ras melayu.
@@ramonepedgio5964 The "oh it's not the style, it's the fighter". Was a BS quote started by the fake masters to fool the students. When they questioned the ineffectiveness of the techniques. Thanks for spreading this BS.
Pretty cool contrast of styles. The first two scissor kicks and sweeps from the Silat guy worked nicely. It seemed like there was sort of rules conversation, but it looked like he was still attempting them in the later half of the fight and the karateka was starting to catch on how to counter it after getting taken down twice. He's no longer standing as side on after a certain point, reducing the effectiveness of the sweep attempts--the later attempts get stuffed. Furthermore, he takes advantage of the Silat guy's need to be side on to be in position to launch his best moves to throw a leg kick. Credit goes out to both of them.
The problem i see with the Silat style is it would hurt like hell to do this on the street to someone. On a padded floor it is great, but on concrete? Ouch. Also, he keeps falling to the ground and on the street he would be in trouble.
@@robdog7516 As an Indonesian I notice not all the silat guys do this continually. It's not good of course. All the experts in my country rarely do this thing
@@robdog7516 as a Malaysian silat practitioner, the moves used in tournaments aren't the actual moves you'd pull off in a street fight. Silat not only focuses on striking, but also locks/grappling. If they were to be used in a tournament, it'll be very dangerous because the locks normally end with either completely crippling or killing your opponent. Thats y for tournaments we're not allowed to use such techniques.
@@robdog7516 It wasn’t, as I’m sure you’re aware, developed on concrete floors. Crouching and fighting lying down are perfectly sensible when fighting in slippery mud (for example). Often self defense does not translate well to a match on the mat. The reverse is, of course, also true.
It's absolutely incredible to see how much martial arts has evolved in the past few decades! I see this, and remember what what it was like to use computers back then. The evolution of the, "technologies" really is no less profound. It's just that computers are so much more ubiquitous. MMA and the internet, for better or worse, really created a perspective that changed everything
since childhood I've learned "Pencak Silat" in college "TTKDH Tarumbu", after a teenager I studied "Karate". regarding where the best of them, depending on the athlete, but as an Indonesian .... I am very proud of the "Pencak Silat ".
i've been doing pencak silat for around 9 years now, if fought a lot of championships, and if you go and look up some clips of pencak silat fights, you wil see that we don't always "polish the floor" ;)
@@s1iznc1d34 silat is a technique used by Indonesians in guerrilla warfare, so silat is intended to directly kill the enemy. In silat only required to do 2 attacks, the first attack to bring down the enemy and the second attack to kill him.
@@s1iznc1d34 there is many way to bring down the enemy in silat not just scissor sweep, and scissor sweep it's not efficient to bring down and kill the enemy. and in this video what's wrong is the practicioner not the silat and i think @Die EZ is just explain what silat is, not to defend the silat dude in this video *CMIIW*
Pencak Silat comes with in many forms and indeed all these kicks can be part of a Pencak Aliran and also parts of Kuntao. I think 'the Raid' (movie) does show real good perspective of what Pencak Silat can be. There by every-one puts always a kind of his own style into it.
I'm Indonesian so I understand the Philosophy of Pencak Silat, most Indonesian are a little short, during the occupation of Holland Netherland in Indonesia, the Indonesian freedom fighter must survive when he/she engage in combat with the European man from Holland Netherland. Pencak Silat was created by Indonesian in order to fight for freedom. It is normal in many Pencak Silat style, to do drop kick, to do low kick at the same time to go to the ground to avoid punching from the enemy. After the enemy falling down, the Pencak Silat fighter do counter attack by kicking the opponent's head from the ground until the enemy pass out or until the enemy die. You can see clearly that the Karateka didn't know what to do in the beginning in this video. The Pencak Silat athletic must avoid strong punch from the opponent, so he must drop himself to the ground without doing ground fighting, at the same time kick the opponent until he pass out, if the opponent should fall down.
I just know that, It is originated from Indonesia. Old people in Cambodia known is as Panh Chak Seila and some people still practice it, nice art of fight
@@amirseth8108 awak tak sadar dulu kerajaan melayu-riau yg utama di nusantara.. raja kami menyerahkan seluruh tahta dan harta demi kemerdekaan indonesia.. Lucu tengok konflik nge claim malaysia-jawa. Same" salah, dan kami melayu riau yg punya hak khusus keterlibatan adat yg diperebutkan diam" aja. Orang Sumatra ambil popcorn je
@@amirseth8108 gw dh tau silat tidak berperangaruh sekali dalam petarungan jalanan.. ilmu karambit silat itu perlu ketika lagi beperang close combat ketika senjata tak ada peluru lagi itu aja. Jgn nak overproud sangat Gw update mma , bellator, ufc, one championship dan liga russia.
@@fadlisuryanto8617 masalah jiwa kau ni..mmg aku melayu kena proud dgn milik bangsa aku..apa kau bangsa apa...bangsa indonesia...indonesia baru je wujud...silat melayu wujud beribu tahun...asal indonesia pun melayu...nusantara milik melayu...jangan bodo sangat
Well it has been sometime since I seen any footage of that era. I was also trained by Govert Butteling in Pencak Silat Pecutan, Cobra. He has even been My neighbor for 4 years , back when he was alive , as he had a school in Uden en 's Hertogenbosch. Was fun training with Him...even though you came home bruised from many a lesson...lol.. he wasn't the easiest teacher.... Pencak Silat was / is not for tournaments....it is a mean martial arts for defending and brutal attacking when needed...
@@yogaeffendieffendi1739 beladiri itu banyak broo ada karate, muay thai, boxing, pencak silat dll, sedangkan SILAT itu asli indonesia broo mengadopsi kesenian tarian yang di kombinasi dengan gerak bela diri. Kita patut bangga
Sya org melayu Kedah Malaysia MMG bangga dengan silat.seni silat BYK rahsia dan banyak jenis silat terdpt pada negara nusantara malaysia.brunai.indonesia.filipina.singapur.dan selatan thailand.klau di mana ada bangsa melayu mesti ada silat dan keris sebagai senjata utama
@@muhammadreza_asefie126 pencak silat comes from Riau which is now part of Indonesia. This martial art has been known since the era of the Sriwijaya or Majapahit kingdoms. Then when the kingdom was destroyed, this martial art was used again by the Indonesian people during the colonial period. ipsi is a martial arts place the first and oldest "Silat". Ipsi is located in java.
wew, malaysia claimed silat from malaysia. shy boy silat in Indonesia many streams, more than 100 streams that fall into the category of IPSI (bond fighters throughout Indonesia) does not include the existing martial arts in rural areas .. silat already in Indonesia since thousands of years ago
I was born in Singapore, now live in London England since 10 years old. Watched and learnt a bit of Silat in Malaysia as a youth. Silent is famous for its low crouching then sudden flying kicks. The Silat fighter here is still a novice. The Karate guy could down him with straight punches. He just got lucky. raisedbybears 1991, is quite right in his sum up.
Pencak silat has flowing combo attack from my point of view, because i learned it back in highschool. Karate also cool , like intense strength training that could make body hard like rock and pain endurance
The problem with many fighters today is that they are so used to fighting in their own style of tournament that they become so bounded by their tournament rules which becomes a self inflicted limitation. Once the rule changes, they kind of get unused to the situation and get a little lost. It's not the style is having limitation but just the fighter them self having problems
Agree with you. The main purpose for silat is to defend yourself and remain humble act without exposing yourself as a man who knows silat. In the other words not showing off until you have too. Malays in Nusantara of Indonesia and Malaysia know best about silat for untold stories that others do not know.
is it normal in silat to fight with ur back to ur opponent? a lot of his wild swings left him vulnerable on the floor too. i feel he's overly flashy but he's definitely quicker than the karate fighter. very interesting to watch, thanks for the upload.
looks and sounds like an old dutch video, makes sense to see Pencak Silat back then-nice to see it shown in hollywood films nowadays. I always thought when I see karate it's too stiff, but I respect the skill and discipline
How I hate these "1 martial art" (pick any) vs another martial art (pick any). It's not Pencak Silat VS Karate. It's a guy who's been training Pencak Silat vs another guy who's been training karate for a while, fighting in a controled enviroment with rules. No martial art is THE martial art. Every has it's great and less great tehniques. And telling that none of this are used by MMA - well, yes they are. If you didn't know, MMA isn't a martial art. It's a combination of many martial arts. And a good MMA fighter knows most usefull tehniques from almost all martial arts, including karate, aikido, jiujitsu, muai thai, kung fu, boxing and wrestling. However, you can't say which is the best, only according to MMA. Most martial arts have tehniques with which you can kill a guy (gouging eyes, tearing balls, breaking leg, neck and arms, open palm neck hits and so on) which are forbidden in MMA, but very usefull in self defence. So MMA doesn't prove a thing which is the best martial art. MMa is a sport. Selfe defence is protecting oneself from being killed. There's a huuge difference.
+Matej Bukovec If there wasn't rule the karate kid will be dead pencak silat is a military martial art and most of it's techniques (like the jules) are deadly.
+Sousuke Aizen Lol and what is Karate? A dance? You people watch RUclips videos and usually point style events and build wrong opinions. Oyama wasn't KOing the shit out of his opponents by singing bed time stories to them. Killing a bull with single hit I guess is a black magic then? All martial arts were used for defense and combat, not for show. The body strenghtening part of Kyokushin or Okinawa styles makes a difference in a fight too. So please drop this crap. What matters is the fighter with his skills, endurance and creativity /tactics and not the martial art he is doing.
Ivo Radev Karate is a sport combat and originated as such, while it's good in the ring with rule and a restricted place (exept againt taekwando their reach make them hard to hit) In a real life battle Karate just don't have that many decisive techniques hell even the stance won't do good, they only have one stance that is acceptable to go against someone who'll kill you and that is Meotode (although few actually use it and most of the usefull move are few in number and illegal). Now let's compare it to pencak silat, it rely on accuracy and decisiveness, you litrally attack the eye the back head the groin the armpits (their is a weak point there) and the joint, also it's used mainly with weapon like the kriss and karambit. I'm sorry but in a real battle the style that going for the kill always win when equally skilled people clash. BTW i'm not some spectator to this i practice many martial art and thus i have a first hand experience on this (even though i'm a newbie)
Sousuke Aizen So, there is the main problem in your statement. Karate is not a combat sport. No idea where you got this. While the very origins of Karate are unknown (disputed that it originated in China 15 centuries ago), let's agree to accept the origin of what is called Karate to be Okinawa. Karate was a system of self defense, not a combat sport. Due to the ban of weapons, people had the opportunity to develop a bare hand defense system. Even the children Katas (so to say) like Pinan Yondan (break opponent's elbow) or Pinan Shodan (dislocate opponent's shoulder) do a damage in a pretty brutal way. As said, point style tournaments give a very wrong picture of what Karate is, or is supposed to be. Nothing wrong with people doing it as sports, it just is only a small part what it is. I did not state, pencak silat ain't lethal. It surely is. But the outcome of a confrontation depends on the skills of the fighters and not the martial type itself. If Karate is trained as whole technique-body strengthening-mentality combination (at least that way we trained back in the 80's/90's, exactly like in Okinawa, though for sure not on their level I would say) then you have a fulfilled Karate training I would say.
Tiap jenis ilmu beladiri memiliki ciri tersendiri sesuai peruntukannya. Dalam setiap pertandingan ilmu beladiri ada aturan sesuai jenis beladirinya. Untuk menentukan mana yang lebih unggul harus ditentukan dahulu aturan mana yg akan digunakan.
as a pesilat (pencak silat fighter) he should bring the silat spirit and philosophy, he should not allow himself wearing body protector when his oponent didnt wear a protector and i think he just an amateur who didnt know the philosophy thats all i can tell as Indonesian Pesilat
I learned silat when I was in elementary school. Until now I still remember the basic techniques, stances, and several moves. I think many ordinary people don't know about silat, you may only see the outside, but when the inner strength is put into play, I doubt the opponent will survive.
Karena perbedaan gaya bertarung dari masing-masing ilmu bela diri, jadi peraturan jatuhan pencak silat harus dilanjutkan dengan serangan lain hingga masuk poin HIT Indahnya bela diri... Setelah didalam ring masih saling hormat
The pencak silat is well known for centuries that emphasizes on deathly blows whereas most other martial art objectives are to disable opponents not necessarily meant to kill them. There is a big difference.
No bro you may get it wrong. Silat is not meant to kill someone or land a deadly blow but rather an attack that can ended the fight quickly. Silat never meant to be a killing martial art technique
you should comparing silat against ninjutsu. for hundred years silat use for real fight in indonesia and malaysia. and thousand maybe million people were killed by that
Nusantara just indonesia, open your book under title history of nusantara, malaysia juga termasuk nusantara.....tetapi hanya sebagian kecil yang ada di pulau kalimantan, pusat nusantara adalah indonesia, seperti sebuah pizza......satu bagiannya dipotong (nusantara malaysia yang ada di daratan kalimantan) end......sisa pizza yang masih banyak itu adalah indonesia (nusantara pusat), jadi siapakah bangsa nusantara itu??? Indonesia......sebagian tanah malaysia yang ada dikalimantan baru bisa dibilang nusantara, but seperti kuala lumpur itu bukan bagian dari nusantara lagi. Jadi tidak ada alasan budaya yang dimiliki bangsa indonesia bisa di klaim oleh bangsa lain dengan mengatas namakan sesama nusantara.....karena the real nusantara is indonesia
wtf.. if you want to compare two martial arts, sport fight can't. let them street fight but don't forget Kyokushin Karate. Anyway respect both martial art.
wtf? if the other guy misses his leg grabby take down he gets a reset? he gets a free reset when he fails and puts himself at a disadvantage? wuuuuuuuut
prehaps u dont know karate ... in karate from the begining u learn basic ground fight and up fight, well at least in my country i learn in skif and kaisendo
Beberapa Karateka & pesilat sudah mencoba menggabungkan teknik beladiri tsb semakin kita banyak belajar beladiri justru semakin ingin belajar beladiri yang. Lain dan semakin bisa menahan diri
***** Not really. It's because Silat focuses more on dodging and countering and Karate is more about just taking the hits and then hitting back. They train like that so hitting a karateka is like hitting a wall. I'd expect the karateka to be so much tougher than the other guy in terms of just endurance and resilience that it'd be unfair otherwise.
The Shotokan Guy is 'very polite'...The Silat boy is polishing the floor and the shotokan guy does nothing. Those comparisons are really silly. Any martial discipline is good - in its own point of view. But especially in Karate, there are so many variations. So which to choose? You can simply just give a 2nd try with normal fullcontact rules - but with any Seidokan/ Kyokushin/ Ashihara/ Shidōkan Karate practician as a "Karate opponent". The result will be *surprising* different ;)
i'm not sure you know a lot of silat. shotokan karate is very polite as you say, but you have to know that pure silat is not a fighter type. the technique is very swift, as the true silat is used for arts
***** The guy is a Kyokushin fighter. At 7:14 you can clearly see the kalligraf on his gi. (Same as I have worn for more than 30 years.) And he is VERY polite. But a good fighter and in very good physical conditioon.
i figured there was something strange, seeing as i did shotokan for the better part of 9 years before i blew my knee out, but didn't recognize the style
@@GodzillathekingKongbane a real fight does not look like this at all. These two guys are just trying to prove their style, but today we know that doesn't work. This looks more like s dragon ball fight
Couldn't agree more! Most wrestling styles are bad enough in a real-life situation, because as you're wrestling with one guy, his friends are kicking you in the head! But this is worse! He goes to the ground EVERY TIME! What a dumb ass!!!!!
Aaron Huisenfeldt Yea that's a pretty stupid move since he does it every time. Although silat does have many grappling moves, it usually used to make the enemy down, not yourself...
Aaron Huisenfeldt in this case, u MAYBE right, but if you u type Anderson Silva caught flying scissor heel hook in youtube, you will see that the BEST STANDUP BEAST get beat by nearly the same move, the silat dude does the first time, if he would´ve done the scissor heel hook, the karate dude would have one leg less in a real fight or whatch the gracie jui jitsu stuff on youtube.... untill the early 90´s where nobody on the world could touch any of them, its really uneducated and dumb to say that ground work sux..... if u want to fight with a group of fighters, take an ak47..... its just nonesense
The vast majority of multi-person real world fights do not involve guns, but yes, the gun would simplify the fight. Armies rarely, if ever, use ground fighting in their hand-to-hand combat training for the aforementioned reasons
jean piche the first technique he does in the video is call sciccors take down the 2nd one is what we call sapuan meaning sweep. the one he does is a back sweep.
jean piche silat has been developed to be used in wars for more than 700 hundred years...think about this...portugies had to use spies and and pistols...and cannon to defeat melacca...a state in malaysia...and they couldnt..they use dirty tactics to win against them..thats why the take down is so weird...its has been developed to be most efficient
Nice scissor kick. I studied Indonesian Kung Fu from age 12 then started Shotokan at age 25. Shotokan fighters had no chance. They were just to static to the flow of Kung fu. But Shotokan has very strong structure and power. Add the two together. And you have a fast flowing powerful self defense style.
This is a ridiculous fight, the Silat practitioner has a pathetic arsenal of attacks which to me isn't even real Silat and everytime the karate practitioner goes to attack his opponent while on the floor the ref steps in, at least deduct points for throwing your self to ground at any given chance for god sake
John doe For your info, the only silat I saw was the leg sweep and the intro at the beginning. Aside from those, the silat guy's move was too much like tae-kwan-do. If you watch the vid again, at one point the guy was telegraphing his spin kick so much. I'm not saying the guy can't fight, but in this vid, he didn't show much of how silat fights. So don't quit learning.
truebluekit lolz man , theres nothin like TaeKwonDo in that guy kicks . imo it looks more like he donno what hes doing. and he shows every kick by preparing it before it comes , just look at hes feets . sorry it got nothing to do with TKD
Karate wins. In the street you cannot lay on the ground and sweep. I teach kyokushin and did a few classes in Silat and found it very lacking and outdated for fighting. I have sparred with my Silat teachers since and can take them down quickly. Silat lacks close quarters hand attacks also.
I would suggest that the Silat fighter is very influenced by kickboxing in the way he moves ,in his guard...especially around the end when he starts to bounce with a traditional boxing guard. The Silat I've been taught was very little, just a few techniques but none so flashy as a air scissor takedown or all the leg hits. A lot of the competitive motions I was taught were closer to wrestling and grappling (compact movements ). My favorite is the stiff arm throw that I even show kids because it's so much fun to do where you basically put your hand behind someone's neck and the other hand on their wrist and kind of twist them around into a cute little circle. Double knee to the Head after somebody is down by simply twisting your knee like a disco move was kind of fun too.
@@s1iznc1d34 do you understand the technique he uses? , and what martial arts do you use . In pencak silat there is such a thing as a cutting technique and he uses it too often, silat is not a martial art that attacks only with clippings, and silat is the saddest martial art in the world, remember that bitch
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Silat is an umbrella term for countless very, very old techniques of Indonesian armed and unarmed combat for guerilla warfare that have only recently become more formally taught as martial arts. Karate is a term associated with several distinct styles of common roots but very different approaches to combat. Both Silat and Karate, in their purest forms, have emphasis on striking enemy vitals to end a fight quickly, which obviously doesn't translate well into sparring, competition or more passive self defense. Don't judge Karate or Silat based on a single video. They're both magnificent, in their own right
malay not indo
Otis Murdoch silat is a malay martial art not malaysia not indo but malay..it is a race of malay.. Silat is come from malay race
nothing none if you read in Wikipedia Silat is from malay archipelago (Sumatera,Java, Borneo,Celebes,new Guinea, Philippine island but not Malaya
FALL 3N en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencak_Silat hmm indonesian martial arts :))
Pencak silat from Indonesia, not mLaingsia... 😁😂😁
The Silat guy is pretty good at sweeps and even when he misses- still maintains his balance/coordination-- which is quite impressive. The Karate guy is good at on ground fighting- his attacks are pretty solid and is not deterred by the various sweeps
nah the silat guy just spamming sweep lmao
@@learningthief ROFL I was thinking that too. Like IRL in real combat you go for a sweep I just stab you on the way down, not playing "tournament" on the streets pfft! Also, WTF is up with those "Día de los Muertos" lookin masks they all got on anyhow? (see 4:58 for example in the background) -> i.imgur.com/gdYPWMM.png
Which movie are you watching? The silat guy is on the floor all the time.........lol
@@tiborzkarate1 what did you expect lol most of the silat moves is banned vital organ are the main target, i believe it's also in karate but karate is still have solid moves without it
xthe pencak silat guy is a clown 😂😂😂
I scrolled down through a number of the comments and I find it interesting that no one bothered to mention that the Silat fighter is wearing a rather substantial chest protector, whereas the Karate Fighter seems to simply be wearing his Gi. This gives the Silat Fighter quite an advantage because they don't seem to be doing any head contact so the once substantial part of his body that is a legal target is protected from the full power of his opponent's blows. I would like to see how would hold ups if he had to take them full force. I'm guessing not too well. Aside from the good sweeps ( which I would expect from a Silat Practioner ) I didn't see much in the way of striking power.
Maybe the karate guy dont want to wear it.
Good point.
Interesting comment but these are definitely no full contact matches. Pulled punches give no advantage to wearing protective equipment.
Да, но они работают не в полный контакт! Я бы посмотрел на то, как он бился бы с бойцом Кёкусин в полный контакт! Было бы не зрелищно, но эффективно.
The chest protector can limit mobility and constrict breathing. I'd rather not wear it.
bangga pencak silat dipelajari diluar..
bukan cma muangtai aja.:)
pencah silat dr indonesia ,malaysia jga ada pencak silat.
krna kita dulu satu kerajaan majapahit n' satu ras melayu.
nah satu like!!!!
like juga :D
+❕ᅚ ᅚ please,stop..
+jo kajo sokong dari malaysia
ngaku ngaku atas nama kerajaan,indonesia itu beda sama malaysia jangan ngaku ngaku.
Gilaaaa Kombonya,,Tendang langsung Gunting,,Susah itu harus lincah,,Josss Lihat,,Bangga bisa Lihat Pencak Silat berkembang ke seluruh dunia
Interesting match up. It's never about which style is better. It's about which individual has the greater skill.
It’s is about the style AND the individual. Not all styles are equally effective. The style also matters.
@@dagaffer2269 Perhaps style matters, but not to the extent of the skill of the individual.
@@ramonepedgio5964 The "oh it's not the style, it's the fighter". Was a BS quote started by the fake masters to fool the students. When they questioned the ineffectiveness of the techniques. Thanks for spreading this BS.
A wrestler, judoka, boxer, mma-fighter, or sanda fighter would smash/beat the shit out of them
What it should be is about weight the karate guy looks to be 25-30 lbs lighter.
Pretty cool contrast of styles. The first two scissor kicks and sweeps from the Silat guy worked nicely. It seemed like there was sort of rules conversation, but it looked like he was still attempting them in the later half of the fight and the karateka was starting to catch on how to counter it after getting taken down twice. He's no longer standing as side on after a certain point, reducing the effectiveness of the sweep attempts--the later attempts get stuffed. Furthermore, he takes advantage of the Silat guy's need to be side on to be in position to launch his best moves to throw a leg kick. Credit goes out to both of them.
The problem i see with the Silat style is it would hurt like hell to do this on the street to someone. On a padded floor it is great, but on concrete? Ouch. Also, he keeps falling to the ground and on the street he would be in trouble.
Jir 9 tahn
@@robdog7516 As an Indonesian I notice not all the silat guys do this continually. It's not good of course. All the experts in my country rarely do this thing
@@robdog7516 as a Malaysian silat practitioner, the moves used in tournaments aren't the actual moves you'd pull off in a street fight. Silat not only focuses on striking, but also locks/grappling. If they were to be used in a tournament, it'll be very dangerous because the locks normally end with either completely crippling or killing your opponent. Thats y for tournaments we're not allowed to use such techniques.
@@robdog7516 It wasn’t, as I’m sure you’re aware, developed on concrete floors. Crouching and fighting lying down are perfectly sensible when fighting in slippery mud (for example). Often self defense does not translate well to a match on the mat. The reverse is, of course, also true.
semua bagus, yang jelek itu yang ga ikut apa2 tp menghujat, hidup beladiri apapun aliranya
mereka gk pernah ngrasain bertarung resmi jadi cuman komen asal
Nah ini baru betul
@_@ t-tumben...
Betul!!
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It's absolutely incredible to see how much martial arts has evolved in the past few decades!
I see this, and remember what what it was like to use computers back then. The evolution of the, "technologies" really is no less profound. It's just that computers are so much more ubiquitous.
MMA and the internet, for better or worse, really created a perspective that changed everything
since childhood I've learned "Pencak Silat" in college "TTKDH Tarumbu", after a teenager I studied "Karate". regarding where the best of them, depending on the athlete, but as an Indonesian .... I am very proud of the "Pencak Silat ".
You take what you need from every style
What a lot of shite
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pancake skillet is the deadliest martial art in the world
@@memegazerkered is good too
Budayakan dan lestarikan seni beladiri pencak silat yg indonesia punya mantap daah
i've been a practitioner of silat and karate, this video gave me a newfound respect for both and makes me want to relearn them again
Nah just train in boxing for a year and you will become a more real fighter.
@@mine2394 people who claimed to be a "real fighter" are usually never in a real fight themselves
@@mine2394yeah, nice words from a keyboard fighter.
Tinju tidak berguna@@mine2394
@@mine2394silat is way better then your pathetic boxing 😂
i've been doing pencak silat for around 9 years now, if fought a lot of championships, and if you go and look up some clips of pencak silat fights, you wil see that we don't always "polish the floor" ;)
haha! Bro, have you seen the bjj-people, they are the new ground polishers hahaha
@@s1iznc1d34 silat is a technique used by Indonesians in guerrilla warfare, so silat is intended to directly kill the enemy. In silat only required to do 2 attacks, the first attack to bring down the enemy and the second attack to kill him.
@@s1iznc1d34 there is many way to bring down the enemy in silat not just scissor sweep,
and scissor sweep it's not efficient to bring down and kill the enemy. and in this video what's wrong is the practicioner not the silat
and i think @Die EZ is just explain what silat is, not to defend the silat dude in this video *CMIIW*
Why he always down
@@harithefightlover4677 because he was trying to "Scissors" (a technique) to the enemy's leg
Pencak Silat comes with in many forms and indeed all these kicks can be part of a Pencak Aliran and also parts of Kuntao. I think 'the Raid' (movie) does show real good perspective of what Pencak Silat can be. There by every-one puts always a kind of his own style into it.
keren sekali. saya bangga jadi orang indonesia ^^
Lebay
Ты муслим?
I'm Indonesian so I understand the Philosophy of Pencak Silat, most Indonesian are a little short, during the occupation of Holland Netherland in Indonesia, the Indonesian freedom fighter must survive when he/she engage in combat with the European man from Holland Netherland.
Pencak Silat was created by Indonesian in order to fight for freedom. It is normal in many Pencak Silat style, to do drop kick, to do low kick at the same time to go to the ground to avoid punching from the enemy.
After the enemy falling down, the Pencak Silat fighter do counter attack by kicking the opponent's head from the ground until the enemy pass out or until the enemy die.
You can see clearly that the Karateka didn't know what to do in the beginning in this video.
The Pencak Silat athletic must avoid strong punch from the opponent, so he must drop himself to the ground without doing ground fighting, at the same time kick the opponent until he pass out, if the opponent should fall down.
Wait what I thought it is older because we had silat in the Philippines too . . .
best explanation ever
Silat is malaysian tradision protection tehnic
@@yt4m4r57 silat in Indonesian practical martial art modern
@@yt4m4r57 don't admit it lol
proud to see when silat being practice by outsider, other than in SEA..
best thing i can see is the sportsmanship in both of the fighters
Indonesian Pencak Silat is soo cool.. the speed the lock, awesome!!
I just know that, It is originated from Indonesia. Old people in Cambodia known is as Panh Chak Seila and some people still practice it, nice art of fight
Cambodia? Greeting from Sumatera island. Silat is tradition Indonesia sport fighting
Pencak silat belongs to MELAYU..or Malays...please remember that...
@@amirseth8108 awak tak sadar dulu kerajaan melayu-riau yg utama di nusantara.. raja kami menyerahkan seluruh tahta dan harta demi kemerdekaan indonesia..
Lucu tengok konflik nge claim malaysia-jawa. Same" salah, dan kami melayu riau yg punya hak khusus keterlibatan adat yg diperebutkan diam" aja.
Orang Sumatra ambil popcorn je
@@amirseth8108 gw dh tau silat tidak berperangaruh sekali dalam petarungan jalanan.. ilmu karambit silat itu perlu ketika lagi beperang close combat ketika senjata tak ada peluru lagi itu aja. Jgn nak overproud sangat
Gw update mma , bellator, ufc, one championship dan liga russia.
@@fadlisuryanto8617 masalah jiwa kau ni..mmg aku melayu kena proud dgn milik bangsa aku..apa kau bangsa apa...bangsa indonesia...indonesia baru je wujud...silat melayu wujud beribu tahun...asal indonesia pun melayu...nusantara milik melayu...jangan bodo sangat
Well it has been sometime since I seen any footage of that era.
I was also trained by Govert Butteling in Pencak Silat Pecutan, Cobra.
He has even been My neighbor for 4 years , back when he was alive , as he had a school in Uden en 's Hertogenbosch.
Was fun training with Him...even though you came home bruised from many a lesson...lol.. he wasn't the easiest teacher....
Pencak Silat was / is not for tournaments....it is a mean martial arts for defending and brutal attacking when needed...
That pencak technique reminded me when i still learn it. Sapuan kick.
They both have the guts to get up and fight, it may not be the best fight 'technically' but they got up and did it...unlike a lot of people out there.
Saya cinta beladiri asli indonesia ...alhamdulillah sudah pernah ikut beberapa aliran silat, sangat efektif utk beladiri ataupun utk olah raga
terimakasih telah mempelajari pencak silat
hidup silat saya sebagai orang jawa barat mendukung silat karena silat itu luwes gerakannya tapi mematikan
mematikan ya.. karna bisanya cuman polish lantai doang
@@xerodyte7680 lawan tuh yayan ruhian,yang kata lu cuma bisa polish lantai doang...
@@xerodyte7680 blom pernah rasa nya tarung gini nih sok ngehujat taek
@@xerodyte7680 lawan maddog bang
@@xerodyte7680 bruakakkaka iri bilang boch
Судьи похоже решили только сейчас обсудить, как будут судить эти соревнования и какие будут правила .
Цирк...
bangga rasanya pancak silat sampai menebar ke luar negeri
Sblm dsini ada. Disana sdh ada broo..hahaa
@@yogaeffendieffendi1739 beladiri itu banyak broo ada karate, muay thai, boxing, pencak silat dll, sedangkan SILAT itu asli indonesia broo mengadopsi kesenian tarian yang di kombinasi dengan gerak bela diri. Kita patut bangga
apa pun jnis ilmu beladirix,intix untk mlindngi diri,bantulh org lemah dn gunakan di jln yg benar
intix komenx hrus pkex hurufx x
Alay emang
Man, i miss pencak silat, i miss cross-sparing with another martial arts, I'm no longer on training after motorcycle accident and unable to kicking
Sya org melayu Kedah Malaysia MMG bangga dengan silat.seni silat BYK rahsia dan banyak jenis silat terdpt pada negara nusantara malaysia.brunai.indonesia.filipina.singapur.dan selatan thailand.klau di mana ada bangsa melayu mesti ada silat dan keris sebagai senjata utama
Pencak Silat berasal dari Indonesia dan Keris senjata tradisional suku jawa, Malaysdesh tukang claim lagi babu british.
Saya akui, skill silat pendekar ini luar biasa. Tidak banyak gaya tapi luar biasa.
Bela diri bukan untuk pertarungan melainkan untuk perlindungan diri.
Self-defense is not for fighting but for self-protection
And when it comes to the wrong hands it will be dangerous
@@azinuddinaziman1557 And Uncle Ben once said "With great power come great responsibility."
Salut gw ama pencak silat
2019 endi suarane?
2021
Iki lho suarane mas😁
2022 🙏
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sukses terus silat beladiri asli indonesia
Ahmad.silat memang asli dari Indonesia bro..klau anda mngtakan nusantara.iy gpp Nusantara tau silat tp silat memng asli Indonesia
Nusantara itu apaan? Kan udah jelas nusantara itu majapahit yg bikin cuk.
@Ahmad Silmi Samsudin Nusantara itu(pulau) daerah kekuasaan majapahit ya gitu lah berarti Indonesia memang berhak mengakui .
@Ahmad Silmi Samsudin coba kau bukak ni salin
id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nusantara
@Ahmad Silmi Samsudin situs resmi wikipedia bukak lah
Thumbs up to both competitors!!! They are shining examples all martial artists can learn from!!! 😀😀😀
Pencak silat mendunia..... Indonesia pun mendunia..
Iyalah terkenal drpd lu kgk diakuin tukang klaim lg😂
@@muhammadreza_asefie126 pencak silat comes from Riau which is now part of Indonesia. This martial art has been known since the era of the Sriwijaya or Majapahit kingdoms. Then when the kingdom was destroyed, this martial art was used again by the Indonesian people during the colonial period. ipsi is a martial arts place the first and oldest "Silat". Ipsi is located in java.
wew, malaysia claimed silat from malaysia. shy boy
silat in Indonesia many streams, more than 100 streams that fall into the category of IPSI (bond fighters throughout Indonesia) does not include the existing martial arts in rural areas .. silat already in Indonesia since thousands of years ago
I was born in Singapore, now live in London England since 10 years old. Watched and learnt a bit of Silat in Malaysia as a youth. Silent is famous for its low crouching then sudden flying kicks. The Silat fighter here is still a novice. The Karate guy could down him with straight punches. He just got lucky. raisedbybears 1991, is quite right in his sum up.
The karate guy figured out the leg sweeps pretty quick. Fool me once...
Karate guy quickly adapted to sneaky/tripping-style guy.
@@s1iznc1d34 in a real fight, u can just stomp on the guy on the floor
@@s1iznc1d34 the silat aint gonna stomp on anyone if he on the ground too
@@s1iznc1d34 that silat guy failed multiple times tho
same silat in a real fight you dont grt chances... because silat have lock enemy
First 2:58 karata lose
Meskipun, pencak silat banyak grupnya dan digemari. Tetaplah, IPSI yang menjadi keluarga terbesarnya. Semoga, tetap lestari dan tidak punah.
silat is made for Combat not for tournaments. not bound by rules. i love silat
bela diri itu sama saja.. tergantung tekniknya.. ane dari psht 1 love
Jafar Shodiq psht mana
salam persaudaraan
salam perisai diri🙏🙏🙏
Josht
Salam dari shotokan karate 🙏
Indonesia banyak pendekar pencak silat, datang ke Indonesia dan lihatlah betapa tangguhnya para petarung di sini
Pencak silat has flowing combo attack from my point of view, because i learned it back in highschool. Karate also cool , like intense strength training that could make body hard like rock and pain endurance
The martial arts only as good as the guy doing it!!
Pencak silat very very good 👍🏾from Indonesian
The problem with many fighters today is that they are so used to fighting in their own style of tournament that they become so bounded by their tournament rules which becomes a self inflicted limitation. Once the rule changes, they kind of get unused to the situation and get a little lost. It's not the style is having limitation but just the fighter them self having problems
Yeah
@@jestfullgremblim8002 lol he waited 9 years and that's all he gets
@tccw lol its like you teacing a fish how to climb a tree,,
pencak silat from Indonesia.,
ferdifeather ... you r the member of ragunan
Kaylee White u didnt even look like a human
kahkahkah... when two are start fighting arguement about silat.. one more thing, silat are from NUSANTARA!!
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Nazrul Hellcat Tanker stupid ass bitch
В бою нужно не кривляться, плавая в иллюзиях о своих возможностях, а реально наносить удары!
Agree with you. The main purpose for silat is to defend yourself and remain humble act without exposing yourself as a man who knows silat. In the other words not showing off until you have too. Malays in Nusantara of Indonesia and Malaysia know best about silat for untold stories that others do not know.
is it normal in silat to fight with ur back to ur opponent? a lot of his wild swings left him vulnerable on the floor too. i feel he's overly flashy but he's definitely quicker than the karate fighter. very interesting to watch, thanks for the upload.
Tidak itu hanya salah satu tehcnik
looks and sounds like an old dutch video, makes sense to see Pencak Silat back then-nice to see it shown in hollywood films nowadays. I always thought when I see karate it's too stiff, but I respect the skill and discipline
the karate kid did a good job learning how not to fall again
Mr Miyagi smiles on the corner 😊
2:20 .....you're welcome
SILVER COLLECTING2015 thanks king
How I hate these "1 martial art" (pick any) vs another martial art (pick any).
It's not Pencak Silat VS Karate. It's a guy who's been training Pencak Silat vs another guy who's been training karate for a while, fighting in a controled enviroment with rules.
No martial art is THE martial art. Every has it's great and less great tehniques.
And telling that none of this are used by MMA - well, yes they are. If you didn't know, MMA isn't a martial art. It's a combination of many martial arts. And a good MMA fighter knows most usefull tehniques from almost all martial arts, including karate, aikido, jiujitsu, muai thai, kung fu, boxing and wrestling.
However, you can't say which is the best, only according to MMA. Most martial arts have tehniques with which you can kill a guy (gouging eyes, tearing balls, breaking leg, neck and arms, open palm neck hits and so on) which are forbidden in MMA, but very usefull in self defence. So MMA doesn't prove a thing which is the best martial art. MMa is a sport. Selfe defence is protecting oneself from being killed. There's a huuge difference.
+Matej Bukovec If there wasn't rule the karate kid will be dead pencak silat is a military martial art and most of it's techniques (like the jules) are deadly.
+Sousuke Aizen Lol and what is Karate? A dance? You people watch RUclips videos and usually point style events and build wrong opinions. Oyama wasn't KOing the shit out of his opponents by singing bed time stories to them. Killing a bull with single hit I guess is a black magic then? All martial arts were used for defense and combat, not for show. The body strenghtening part of Kyokushin or Okinawa styles makes a difference in a fight too. So please drop this crap. What matters is the fighter with his skills, endurance and creativity /tactics and not the martial art he is doing.
Ivo Radev Karate is a sport combat and originated as such, while it's good in the ring with rule and a restricted place (exept againt taekwando their reach make them hard to hit)
In a real life battle Karate just don't have that many decisive techniques hell even the stance won't do good, they only have one stance that is acceptable to go against someone who'll kill you and that is Meotode (although few actually use it and most of the usefull move are few in number and illegal).
Now let's compare it to pencak silat, it rely on accuracy and decisiveness, you litrally attack the eye the back head the groin the armpits (their is a weak point there) and the joint, also it's used mainly with weapon like the kriss and karambit.
I'm sorry but in a real battle the style that going for the kill always win when equally skilled people clash.
BTW i'm not some spectator to this i practice many martial art and thus i have a first hand experience on this (even though i'm a newbie)
Sousuke Aizen
So, there is the main problem in your statement. Karate is not a combat sport. No idea where you got this. While the very origins of Karate are unknown (disputed that it originated in China 15 centuries ago), let's agree to accept the origin of what is called Karate to be Okinawa. Karate was a system of self defense, not a combat sport. Due to the ban of weapons, people had the opportunity to develop a bare hand defense system. Even the children Katas (so to say) like Pinan Yondan (break opponent's elbow) or Pinan Shodan (dislocate opponent's shoulder) do a damage in a pretty brutal way.
As said, point style tournaments give a very wrong picture of what Karate is, or is supposed to be. Nothing wrong with people doing it as sports, it just is only a small part what it is.
I did not state, pencak silat ain't lethal. It surely is. But the outcome of a confrontation depends on the skills of the fighters and not the martial type itself. If Karate is trained as whole technique-body strengthening-mentality combination (at least that way we trained back in the 80's/90's, exactly like in Okinawa, though for sure not on their level I would say) then you have a fulfilled Karate training I would say.
I didn't say once that karate is a sport. Maybe you shoulf read my statemt again
Silcardo Jenazad (Pencak Silat) Vs Hongou ( Karate ) .... Anime Kenichi ....
Tiap jenis ilmu beladiri memiliki ciri tersendiri sesuai peruntukannya. Dalam setiap pertandingan ilmu beladiri ada aturan sesuai jenis beladirinya. Untuk menentukan mana yang lebih unggul harus ditentukan dahulu aturan mana yg akan digunakan.
i love silat...i love indonesia
I love rujak cingur
as a pesilat (pencak silat fighter) he should bring the silat spirit and philosophy, he should not allow himself wearing body protector when his oponent didnt wear a protector and i think he just an amateur who didnt know the philosophy
thats all i can tell as Indonesian Pesilat
His oponent weard a protector.. Inside his cloths...
True Silat training is brutal but necessary because of the rough terrain of Indonesia.
I learned silat when I was in elementary school. Until now I still remember the basic techniques, stances, and several moves. I think many ordinary people don't know about silat, you may only see the outside, but when the inner strength is put into play, I doubt the opponent will survive.
silat indonesia telah terkenal jga di dunia
PENCAK SILAT 👍👍
Karena perbedaan gaya bertarung dari masing-masing ilmu bela diri, jadi peraturan jatuhan pencak silat harus dilanjutkan dengan serangan lain hingga masuk poin HIT
Indahnya bela diri... Setelah didalam ring masih saling hormat
The pencak silat is well known for centuries that emphasizes on deathly blows whereas most other martial art objectives are to disable opponents not necessarily meant to kill them. There is a big difference.
No bro you may get it wrong. Silat is not meant to kill someone or land a deadly blow but rather an attack that can ended the fight quickly. Silat never meant to be a killing martial art technique
you're saying that karate was not developed to kill enemies? Get your facts straight man
Карате мощное искусство, где сосредоточено на коротки и быстрый бой.
Sama 2 baik dan bagus, Pencak Silat ada kelebihan yg bersifat Seni dan Pertahanan diri 🙂
PENCAK SILAT FROM INDONESIA
you should comparing silat against ninjutsu. for hundred years silat use for real fight in indonesia and malaysia. and thousand maybe million people were killed by that
Thx for this great moments of cartoons.
is the best pencak silat i'm like PSHT from Indonesian
Malay and Indo say Silat is a Nusantara
Nusantara just indonesia, open your book under title history of nusantara, malaysia juga termasuk nusantara.....tetapi hanya sebagian kecil yang ada di pulau kalimantan, pusat nusantara adalah indonesia, seperti sebuah pizza......satu bagiannya dipotong (nusantara malaysia yang ada di daratan kalimantan) end......sisa pizza yang masih banyak itu adalah indonesia (nusantara pusat), jadi siapakah bangsa nusantara itu??? Indonesia......sebagian tanah malaysia yang ada dikalimantan baru bisa dibilang nusantara, but seperti kuala lumpur itu bukan bagian dari nusantara lagi. Jadi tidak ada alasan budaya yang dimiliki bangsa indonesia bisa di klaim oleh bangsa lain dengan mengatas namakan sesama nusantara.....karena the real nusantara is indonesia
Semua bagus, Silat tidak diajarkan untuk menghujat.
Salam Martial Art 🙏
wtf..
if you want to compare two martial arts,
sport fight can't. let them street fight
but don't forget Kyokushin Karate.
Anyway respect both martial art.
Kyokushin is dangerous
Fight is fight
No matter sport or street fight
Kaka sayang pernah belajar karate di perguruan kyokushin, lalau keluar dan masum silat perguruan merpati putih
No, Pencak silat is the best
@@juankamaru9589 all depends on the fighter not the art.
wtf? if the other guy misses his leg grabby take down he gets a reset? he gets a free reset when he fails and puts himself at a disadvantage? wuuuuuuuut
+Eurrikke Edward disadvantage ? that's fucing suicide ! ! it is ridiculous he can get away with that bullshit,
@@mcpartridgeboy bacod lu konntol
This is the rule, bastard
If he failed to do that technique he could have used another technique
*in real fight
Amituofo. Keep training!❤
the guy in black has good skills but goes to ground too easily.
it's the silat style. same like in mma.
ground fighting is a part of silat,, but not in karate
Perhaps you don't understand karate ...
prehaps u dont know karate ... in karate from the begining u learn basic ground fight and up fight, well at least in my country i learn in skif and kaisendo
mugil
To be honest I have no idea what constitutes "winning" here
Beberapa Karateka & pesilat sudah mencoba menggabungkan teknik beladiri tsb semakin kita banyak belajar beladiri justru semakin ingin belajar beladiri yang. Lain dan semakin bisa menahan diri
why is the slate guy wearing chest pad n the karate is not?
exactly my question. may be because the karate kicks are more fatal.
***** Not really. It's because Silat focuses more on dodging and countering and Karate is more about just taking the hits and then hitting back. They train like that so hitting a karateka is like hitting a wall. I'd expect the karateka to be so much tougher than the other guy in terms of just endurance and resilience that it'd be unfair otherwise.
lol its a point sparring ? he was in no real danger
Oh, you do have a point there. Then I got nothing, man. You just killed the only possible theory xD
because silat guy challenge 3 another martial art in the same day
watch marcel doms fight
The Shotokan Guy is 'very polite'...The Silat boy is polishing the floor and the shotokan guy does nothing.
Those comparisons are really silly. Any martial discipline is good - in its own point of view.
But especially in Karate, there are so many variations. So which to choose? You can simply just give a 2nd try with normal fullcontact rules - but with any Seidokan/ Kyokushin/ Ashihara/ Shidōkan Karate practician as a "Karate opponent".
The result will be *surprising* different ;)
i'm not sure you know a lot of silat. shotokan karate is very polite as you say, but you have to know that pure silat is not a fighter type. the technique is very swift, as the true silat is used for arts
both of them fought well.
how do you know he is a shotokan karateka?
***** The guy is a Kyokushin fighter. At 7:14 you can clearly see the kalligraf on his gi. (Same as I have worn for more than 30 years.) And he is VERY polite. But a good fighter and in very good physical conditioon.
i figured there was something strange, seeing as i did shotokan for the better part of 9 years before i blew my knee out, but didn't recognize the style
90-th were wild 😂
Back in the day when martial artists fought like anime characters 😂
…because anime characters fighting is slightly based off real life fighting
@@GodzillathekingKongbane a real fight does not look like this at all. These two guys are just trying to prove their style, but today we know that doesn't work. This looks more like s dragon ball fight
"Pencak Silat" Made In Indonesia
karate pun indon.semua indon,dunia ni pun indon punya
ardz drie adrary isah kamu muslim indonesia muslim udahlah
ardz drie adrary isah kamu muslim indonesia muslim udahlah
@@adraryard bacot lo celeng
@@adraryard anjing tolol lu
karate tradisional, agak kaku tapi soal fisik ngeri bang, di pukul beberapa kali gak akan kerasa. 😂
pencak silat speed sama Teknik nya mantap 👍🏻
both of them just had do some basic movement. REMEBER this just friendly match.
IN THE REAL FIGHT THERE IS NO RULE!!!!
You'd be pretty dead in a serious fight if you kept rolling around on the floor like that... I'm aware this is a competition. Just saiyan.
Couldn't agree more! Most wrestling styles are bad enough in a real-life situation, because as you're wrestling with one guy, his friends are kicking you in the head! But this is worse! He goes to the ground EVERY TIME! What a dumb ass!!!!!
Aaron Huisenfeldt
Yea that's a pretty stupid move since he does it every time. Although silat does have many grappling moves, it usually used to make the enemy down, not yourself...
Aaron Huisenfeldt in this case, u MAYBE right, but if you u type
Anderson Silva caught flying scissor heel hook
in youtube, you will see that the BEST STANDUP BEAST get beat by nearly the same move, the silat dude does the first time, if he would´ve done the scissor heel hook, the karate dude would have one leg less in a real fight
or whatch the gracie jui jitsu stuff on youtube.... untill the early 90´s where nobody on the world could touch any of them, its really uneducated and dumb to say that ground work sux.....
if u want to fight with a group of fighters, take an ak47..... its just nonesense
The vast majority of multi-person real world fights do not involve guns, but yes, the gun would simplify the fight. Armies rarely, if ever, use ground fighting in their hand-to-hand combat training for the aforementioned reasons
well silat is one of the deadliest fighting styles so in a real fight he wouldve went for the kill...
Gerakan petarung pencak silat,pro banget gaeeesss ,yang disini ikut pencak silat .. tunjukan jempol likenya...💪
karate is a martial art while silat is a combatan art.
Silat is killing art bro
OK, i just saw a guy doing hip hop on the floor and ...he won. It s was a hip hop battle in fact. BS
jean piche the first technique he does in the video is call sciccors take down the 2nd one is what we call sapuan meaning sweep. the one he does is a back sweep.
jean piche learn martial art girls, then you will understand how to control themselves and respect for others, should not only be a party and disco
jean piche silat has been developed to be used in wars for more than 700 hundred years...think about this...portugies had to use spies and and pistols...and cannon to defeat melacca...a state in malaysia...and they couldnt..they use dirty tactics to win against them..thats why the take down is so weird...its has been developed to be most efficient
Nice scissor kick. I studied Indonesian Kung Fu from age 12 then started Shotokan at age 25. Shotokan fighters had no chance. They were just to static to the flow of Kung fu. But Shotokan has very strong structure and power. Add the two together. And you have a fast flowing powerful self defense style.
Shotokan No utiliza movimientos innecesarios,práctico Shotokan he Competido contra Kung Fu y aunque no es malo,se ve muy débil.
This is a ridiculous fight, the Silat practitioner has a pathetic arsenal of attacks which to me isn't even real Silat and everytime the karate practitioner goes to attack his opponent while on the floor the ref steps in, at least deduct points for throwing your self to ground at any given chance for god sake
Yea yea whatever you say big guy
i was interested in training silat until I watched this video
This fight is in 1985 dude. Dont stop learning something you like just after watched a video
John doe For your info, the only silat I saw was the leg sweep and the intro at the beginning. Aside from those, the silat guy's move was too much like tae-kwan-do.
If you watch the vid again, at one point the guy was telegraphing his spin kick so much.
I'm not saying the guy can't fight, but in this vid, he didn't show much of how silat fights. So don't quit learning.
truebluekit lolz man , theres nothin like TaeKwonDo in that guy kicks . imo it looks more like he donno what hes doing. and he shows every kick by preparing it before it comes , just look at hes feets . sorry it got nothing to do with TKD
Marek Matyja
No TKD huh? Sure fooled me.
Karate wins. In the street you cannot lay on the ground and sweep. I teach kyokushin and did a few classes in Silat and found it very lacking and outdated for fighting. I have sparred with my Silat teachers since and can take them down quickly. Silat lacks close quarters hand attacks also.
Sambung?
Yang bilang karate gk pke body protector. setau saya d karate body protectornya di dalam baju🤓
Ahmad Istiqlal karate full contact ada mas, gak usah pake bodi protector, soalnya badanya udah keras
Dari dl karate ga ada body protector nya pak..🙏🙏
iya emang
andreas aris ada, buat komite
Klo psht gak pake body klo latihan
too much rules, too much stopping, well tbh this is bad.
I would suggest that the Silat fighter is very influenced by kickboxing in the way he moves ,in his guard...especially around the end when he starts to bounce with a traditional boxing guard. The Silat I've been taught was very little, just a few techniques but none so flashy as a air scissor takedown or all the leg hits. A lot of the competitive motions I was taught were closer to wrestling and grappling (compact movements ). My favorite is the stiff arm throw that I even show kids because it's so much fun to do where you basically put your hand behind someone's neck and the other hand on their wrist and kind of twist them around into a cute little circle. Double knee to the Head after somebody is down by simply twisting your knee like a disco move was kind of fun too.
how could one fight on the street being all the time crawling and falling, it's embarrassing to see silat guy making fun of himself.
@@s1iznc1d34 do you understand the technique he uses? , and what martial arts do you use . In pencak silat there is such a thing as a cutting technique and he uses it too often, silat is not a martial art that attacks only with clippings, and silat is the saddest martial art in the world, remember that bitch
Traditional pencak silat
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What is pncak silat(wushu ore something)?
kalau yang sebenernya karate menang ini kan cumak di vidio
silat itu cuma silat olah raga.. pukulan utk dpt point..
hahaha mna kareta bisa mnag ma silat ngawak aja .
+Said Adrebi btull tuh karate Harus menang